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I cast my vote yesterday, Miami Beach saw all of my tanned, happy, and sandal-clad neighbors all lined up.I will tell you, Clay, I promise you, true story, a rather, I believe we would say, jacked
fellow in front of me in a tank top who looked like he could probably put up.I mean, he could probably put up Clay Travis numbers like four hundred and fifty on the bench.He was very large, very large fellow.
And and a woman on the way in with a sign says, are you going to she had like a camel?And this is like outside the zone where you're allowed, you know, outside the zone, your feet or whatever it is where you're allowed to.So try.
So there were a few people outside the zone who were making their last pitch or whatever.Fine. But this woman goes, are you going to vote for Kamala?She goes, are you voting for Kamala Harris?
Like they're having a little like a little quiet, private, secret moment together.And he goes, absolutely not.Like, yes, Miami Beach.Yes.The jacked bro is not voting for Kamala Harris.I could have told you that before he responded.
I've got a good question for you.We can have a little bit of fun here and then we'll get into the news.If you could only pick one thing to know about a person. that would guarantee that they are going to vote either for Kamala or for Trump.
This is not something about their identity, but something that they do, a habit, a activity.Mine would be, well, you tell me, are there things that come to mind immediately for you where you'd be like, Trump guy, Kamala person, like whatever?
I think I can talk to somebody about guns for 30 seconds and with a 99% accuracy know who they're voting for.
I would say if you can bench press 225 pounds, you almost certainly are voting for Trump.
Like if you only allowed men who could bench press, for those of you out there who ever get on a bench, if you could, that's 245 plates on either side, without even talking to them at all, if you only allowed men who bench press 225 to vote, I think it would be like 90-10 Trump.
That would be mine if you just like strong like to your point when you're saying like the guy's kind of big and ripped Ripped guys believe in individual.
This is my theory on it super ripped guys believe in individual responsibility They're willing to work hard.They show up every day and they put in effort
they are more likely to be individualist and to be Trump supporters I believe if I were having to pick like just an activity that somebody does.The other one would be if you are like a biker I feel like bikers would not, not like a motorcycle.
What cyclists or motorcycle?Cause we're talking very different.
Okay.Cyclist.I feel like I'm getting, I'm trying to pick an activity.If you are a cyclist, I feel like you are a Kamala voter.
Oh, if you're if well, here's the thing.It's funny because if I if I could call somebody a biker and know that they wear leather jackets and have tattoos, Trump, Trump, all the voters, if motorcyclists, all those people are Trump.
But I was going to say, if you're talking cyclist who wears the like neoprene zip thing.Yes.Ninety, 90 percent Kamala voters, guys and girls, 90 percent Kamala voters.I don't know why it is, but it is.
Do you agree with that would be my like if you had to pick something that somebody does bicyclist like meaning like what Buck said like you wear the neoprene like you're out versus weightlifting I feel like there are other things right like if you're trans I think you're probably voting Kamala right in general yes but I'm talking about like activities that people do that would be weightlifting and bicycling would be two things where I'd be like I feel like I know how you vote.
I will say, though, Miami Beach, you know, has historically has had a substantial gay population.All of all of my gay friends in Miami Beach voting Trump.I actually I'm just saying now maybe that's because they're my friends.
But all of my gay friends in Miami Beach are voting Trump.
I don't think gay is is as much of a proxy for how you vote in a presidential election.
No, I don't think it is.I'm just saying years ago.And anecdotally, yeah, there is a strong I think there's a strong contingent of
Well, within the sort of LGBTQ community, among gay men, I think there's going to be a surprising number of Trump voters compared to what the Republican norms are.
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We're having some fun.What hobby would you hear someone had and immediately say, oh, that person is voting for Kamala? I'm just getting inundated by cyclists right now.
I still think cycling and again, not motorcycling, just like you're on your bike and you're like. What is neoprene, right?That's what it is, right?Like the, the cycling outfit.I don't think of those people as huge Trump people.Maybe I'm wrong.
I was going to say birdwatching and Buck just was like, no, there's tons of birdwatchers who are huge Trump people.You had an eye.I'm trying to think through what would I hear that you did as a hobby?
And I would be like, oh, you are definitely a Kamala voter.You've got one.
Oh, I think Padel down here, which is like this fancy version of racquetball that's becoming popular, at least in South Florida.I don't know if anyone plays this anywhere else.I think I think Democrats.What about Peloton?
Oh, I think Peloton is I was going to say that cycling again, like I think if you're on the cycle, not the motorcycle, I tend to I mean, I guess that may not steroids, which is another way to be on the cycle. You were saying Adele.
I went and saw Adele.Adele.Adele the singer.Oh, I thought you said Adele the singer.No.I don't even know what Adele is.The fact that you even know what Adele is maybe makes you a Kamala voter.I never even heard of Adele.
I thought you said Adele the singer.
I was going to say I went to go see her in Vegas with Laura.
What is the breakdown?What is the breakdown of voting aged women who like Taylor Swift? Is it for Democrats, though?You think it's super high Democrat?
There's I think it's super high everybody.I think it's like 80 20 women like Taylor Swift.
No, no, no.I'm saying in terms of of the Taylor Swift voting age audience, are they overwhelmingly Democrats or is it 50 50?
I think it's probably like 65 35 Democrat would be my bet.
Oh, we're going to start getting into this.We got the cyclists are coming for us right now.
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We've started to break the phone lines and the email inbox, and we've got a lot of people weighing in on some of our discussion here about hobbies that differentiate or that are differentiated by political affiliation.
Let's see, we've got talkbacks, we've got calls. Let me see, hold on.VIP email from Mike.I'll start with this one, Clay.Hey guys, definitely Ultimate Frisbee.I've been playing for 25 years.I'm now 57 and the sport is loaded with leftists.
It's a great, fun sport.I wouldn't really have thought about it very much, but that is interesting.
There's I'm not trying to cast aspersions.I don't need the ultimate frisbee community come after me, but there is something of an association with the smoking of certain substances and the playing of ultimate frisbee on college campuses.
I just I knew the frisbee guys a lot of hemp.They were a lot of hemp.
Also ponytails.I would say if you're a man with a ponytail, maybe also a man bun, you are more likely to vote Kamala than a man with a normal haircut. Does that make sense?
Like, if you have a ponytail, not a woman, if you are a man with a ponytail, you are more likely to vote Kamala than a man with, like, a traditional haircut. Our ponytail guy is now going to be furious at me, but I mean, are they wrong?
Right wing ponytail guys are going to come for you right now.
I'm just saying, there's not that many ponytail guys.If I see a guy with a ponytail, I'm not like, you know, that guy is a huge Trump supporter.
I think it was more early 90s.I feel like ponytails had a little bit more of a moment, you know, people are going for it.Just like them with the grunge scene, the goatee became much more of a thing.
Like bearded men, Yes, I remember the goatee, but bearded men, not men with beards.Some might say that there could be somebody on the ticket with one.I'm talking about bearded men. I think we're more likely to vote Trump, right?
Like if I just if you only told me like, hey, what is a male characteristic that you could point to that would vote Trump?I would say a beard would be a good guess for a man, an actual facial beard, not a woman.
I also think Trump wins.He should grow a beard.It would be epic.
But there's a there's a meme of Trump with a beard.I think it would be incredible if Trump grew a beard.
Let's take some of these cyclist callers here Steve in Santa Barbara a lovely part of the country.What's up Steve?
Hey guys Hey, yeah, you called us what am I wrong on the cyclist front?
Partially wrong first off.It's not neoprene.It's lycra and there's numerous reasons to wear the craft but I would say in the old days is probably 10% of
Conservative cyclists and it might have creeped up to 40% now I remember that's quite a big move But you would if you had to stake your life on it and because I know a lot of people out there Respond anytime you talk about general groups by saying I am X and I do Y that doesn't mean the group is wrong right so like women are going to vote for
Kamala, according to the data, and men are going to vote for Trump.That doesn't mean that some men aren't voting Kamala or some women aren't voting Trump.Your individual choice doesn't eliminate the overall statistical reality.
In other words, your anecdote doesn't eliminate the rule.So would you agree with me that bicyclists in general, as a cyclist yourself, would vote Kamala over Trump?
I would partially agree with you.I think that tide is turning.I think Democrats have screwed up so royally that even a diehard Democrat has to look at what they've done and say people are idiots at this issue.That's the way I see it.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you.I would say so, but it's turning.It's turning.
All right, well, I hope more of your lycra clad brothers and sisters in the cycling world will vote Trump in this cycle.That would be fantastic.Lou in Sarasota, another another cyclist for Trump here, a fellow Floridian.What's up, Lou?
Clay, but good afternoon.Thank you for taking my call.Appreciate it.An honor to speak, guys.So, yes, I'm Sarasota.I'm a lycra wearing guy.I also like ARs, shotguns, football.
So I will say this, since we moved here about two years ago, two and a half years ago, there's a fair amount of contingency of people that do like Trump, that ride bicycles.But I also think it's geographical, because when we lived in Baltimore,
It was very hard to find anybody that was conservative in the group that we wrote with, which were hundreds of people.Right.
Well, you're going to find that with any hobby, right?So we're, we're trying to assess nationally what the, what the political breakdown of some of these hobbies would be.
And, and by the way, I'm open.I think this is super fascinating stuff.I'm open to somebody hitting me with a, and me being like, you know what, that's genius.I think you're definitely right.Again, I went weightlifting.
You tend to vote for Trump and bicycling.I would think, You tend to vote for Conlon.I'm trying not to pick something that would overwhelmingly be one gender or another, right?
So there are certain things like that men do more than women and so it's more of a gender.
I do need to get a sense of your judgment here.What is worse to you?People who use leaf blowers before nine o'clock in the morning or drivers who encroach on the cyclist lane?
I would say drivers, because leaf blowers should be able to get up at 8 o'clock in the morning and do their work.
Oh, man, he's pro.He's pro leaf blowing early morning.
I don't know.We got a leaf blower who called in.Do we have the leaf blower who left me a message?Because I think, yeah, we got to talk back on a leaf blower.For those of you out there, I'm trying to make the world more civilized.
Leaf blowing should only exist from 9 a.m.in the morning to 9 p.m.at night.It gives you 12 hours.That's plenty of time to blow leaves all over the place with your with your heart's content.Here is one of our guys from San Antonio.
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Anyway, I support you and everything else, but this, gotta get done.I'm not gonna be working in night vision goggles.Have a great day, go Trump!
I did think that my night vision goggles suggestion was created one.
That's a good one.I'm telling you, I think the landscapers near me are intentionally starting their leaf blowers now faster than they otherwise would.I think they've got it out for me.And I didn't know that I had angered such a large community.
If we got leaf blowing flutist bike riders, I'm in trouble if there's somebody that overlaps with all three of those things.
Also, while we're on the subject, kind of, do people mow their lawns too much?Like, what's wrong with the grass getting a little bit longer?
I feel like I live with a tyranny of lawnmower noise everywhere I go all the time outside of New York City where no one has lawns, but I'm always hearing lawns being mowed.
Well, you're in Miami.It always is growing in Miami.You don't have an off season, right?You have to cut the grass all year round.
Is that correct?We may have just solved this puzzle.Thank you for that.But yes, I mean, am I wrong?
I mean, I think in Miami you would have to cut your grass basically all year round.I'm sure it grows a little bit slower in the winter, but you just have to move to a part of the country where you get like five months off.
VIPs lighting us up here.Darlene, you guys are way off base about cyclists.They wear Lycra, not neoprene.Okay, okay.
What is the difference between neoprene and Lycra?
Plastic fabric is... Yeah, give me a break.My synthetics are a little bit off.Look, the good news is that it still looks like a Teletubby either way.Most cyclists in our area are firemen, police officers, and real men.They vote Republican.
I did no one's no one said cycling is a you know Lance Armstrong's a superstar we're just trying to see if there's a political affiliation that goes along with some of these things I mean I we didn't mention this probably the easiest one is or like the biggest disparity that you would see if you were to chart this out I think if you're a hunter there's an above a 90% chance you vote for very high I think it's probably 90 95% chance if you are an active and avid hunter you vote for Donald Trump I think if you
go to the gun range, it's probably 80%, 70, 80% you vote for Donald Trump.So it's also very high.Maybe it's as high as hunting.So we're trying to think of some of the other activities.
Golf I think would be very high on the Trump team.Our friend Nick Adams says if you're a Taylor Swift fan, you tend to vote.I said I thought it would be 65, 35. that Taylor Swift people would vote Kamala.
I think that's probably true, although that's partly, again, a function of the fact that Taylor Swift's fan base is overwhelmingly female.I think that plays in there as well.
So you don't think she necessarily skews left among females.It's just she has such a huge female audience and they skew Democrat to begin.That's kind of what I thought.
I would guess there are a lot of right-leaning 20 to 29-year-old girls in the Nashville area who love Taylor Swift, but they don't love her politics necessarily.That would be my guess.
I think that's true.I love this.I would love to see the data.If anybody's got data on hobbies as a function of political voting, This kind of stuff is fascinating to me.
You've seen the, in terms of career or employment, the data is fascinating.And there are very few professions that skew heavily right-wing, and very few organizations, companies, or entities, I should say.
You know, what you see is that the things that still remain dominated by again, we all understand dominated doesn't mean there aren't other people that, you know, have our Democrats that are in the mix, too, but that are overwhelmingly Republican.
The Marine Corps police. um, firemen, uh, general contractors, small business owners overall, I think it's like 60, 40 or six, you know, tend to be right in the center.Yeah.
You know, uh, it's not like overwhelming, but when you get on the Democrat side of things, like 95% of psychiatrists are Democrats.99% of Google employees are Democrats.University professors.
University professors, 97% of them or something like that are Democrats.I mean, they have these total areas of professional dominance, uh, which is, uh, you know, unfortunate for the country, by the way, unions, overwhelmingly Democrat as well.
Andrew, by the way, in Asheville, Andrew, first of all, before we get into your criticism, how are things in Asheville?Is the water back power?How's the situation for you?
Uh, the water's back powers back in certain areas.Uh, But, I mean, overall, it's going all right.Can't complain.Thankfully, my family, we've pulled through.
All right.You just cut your ponytail off.I said if you had to go beard, Trump voter, ponytail, male, Kamala voter, do you want to fire back on behalf of formerly ponytailed men?
Well, I mean, I can't say that all ponytail men will Vote for Trump, but I I definitely voted for Trump and will vote for Trump.I'm more along the lines of a moderate Independent I go for the the policies and all that so I
But if you had, let's say that you were the president of the Ponytailed Men of Asheville Association, and you had everybody show up so you guys could play flutes and ride bikes together, don't you feel like the vast majority of the Ponytailed Men of America, when they took a break from playing flutes and riding bikes, would be voting for Kamala?
I don't know.I can't say that, honestly.I guess it just depends.
Nobody puts ponytail in a corner, Clay.
By the way, thank you for calling in.I'm glad that things are getting good enough in Asheville for him to be fired up about my take on ponytails.I'm just saying, can you think of something again?
Not that is identity laden other than a ponytail where you would be like that guy's voting for Kamala.I can't ponytail guy.
I think this is a minor thing, but I have come across this maybe just because we work in media.If you wear glasses as a fashion accessory, not because you need them to see like prescription glasses, you're voting Democrat.
Like I've never been Mark Cuban now looks like Rachel Maddow, like again, to be clear, not if you wear glasses, if you wear glasses that you don't need for vision purposes, like to help you see.
I think there's a very high like it's a fashion accessory at that point.You like the way they look on you.I think you're a Democrat like Mark Cuban's new glasses.That's because he's gone full Democrat.
I think Elon Musk said that he's now indistinguishable from Rachel Maddow, which when you do put them side by side, it is really funny how similar Mark Cuban and Rachel Maddow look.I will say that.
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Now we're talking about silliness. Jay in Fayetteville, North Carolina.Jay, I have to say, you may have actually the best answer and the clearest insight on this conundrum of all.Go ahead.
Absolutely.100 percent.Anyone who wears a mask. nowadays is definitely voting for Kamala.No question.
I think that maybe, Jay, I think you get the prize if there was one.I wish we had a prize, sorry, but we do get to have you talk to everybody across the country.Clay, 99.9% accuracy.I mean, that's more accuracy than like most home pregnancy tests.
You know what I mean?Like, do you have a mask on?At this point, you're voting Kamala.
That is a great point.I would be stunned if there is a Trump voting mask wearer anywhere in the country right now.I mean, honestly, I would just be like, how is this possible?
And I'm not talking like somebody might be going through chemotherapy, right?You're so incredibly susceptible.
No one's talking about if you're a lumberjack and you don't want to inhale sawdust for your job.We're talking about COVID mask wear.
You're on an airplane And you are sitting there in a mask.You are 100% voting for Kamala.
We've also got an interview with Gerald in Daytona Beach, a Floridian.What's going on, Gerald?
Hey, this is Daytona Beach.Nice and sunny down here after the hurricanes.But last week was Biketoberfest, which is four days of motorcycles and ponytails.And I wore my Trump hat.By the way, first day of early voting was here yesterday.And I voted.
I kind of did a survey while I was walking down Main Street, which had 500,000 bikers.One person, one person I found that would vote for Kamala Harris.Everybody else loved the Trump hat and would vote Trump.
We're all blue collar workers and that's how we bought our bike.
Thank you for the call.Now, I would say riding a motorcycle cancels out the ponytail.
If you're a biker and you have a ponytail, it's like if you were a Viking in the 800s and you have a ponytail.Different situation.Different situation.
Different situation than ponytail ultimate frisbee or ponytail like weed smoker.
Ponytail like, you know, Bill from the office in accounting.We're talking about if you walk around wearing Birkenstocks with a ponytail, right?That's a little different.
Man bun might be a better way to describe it now.I don't even know if man buns are still a thing.
They were for a while.What about samurais? You know what I mean?
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