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This is a Maisie Media production.Hello, most awesome one.It's your girl, Ayana, checking in.And as most of us know, podcasting has experienced this surge of popularity.And since I've been podcasting since 2017, one could imagine that I'm sitting on
a bit of content, and I decided to resurface some of that content.
So in these next episodes that you'll hear, I'm going through, pulling out some of the best bits from some of our guests, and I'm going to reintroduce you to them, or for some of you, this may be your first time hearing it.
Either way, I wanted to pull out things that I thought would serve you. I always try to have your back in the Switch, Pivot, or Quit moments, these life change experiences, the trials and tribulations that we all go through.
So I really, truly, and genuinely hope that what you're about to hear will help you along your Switch, Pivot, or Quit journey. On today's show, we're chatting with Nicole Garner-Scott.
Nicole is the owner of the high-profile event planning, fashion, and lifestyle public relations and marketing agency, the Garner Circle PR.
This author, instructor, and practitioner has asserted herself as an authority in the world of publicity and branding. having worked with notable celebrities like Ciara and big box brands like Adidas.
She is a true sweetheart and as a result she also enjoys giving back to her community as well as helping her fellow entrepreneurs get your notepad out, get your notebook out, get your journal out, wherever you write the most powerful information that you are ready to consume and receive because Nicole is going to drop so much knowledge on us.
Let's get into it.Thank you so much for joining us, Nicole.Thank you for having me on.Can you share with our audience a bit more about yourself and your career path?
Sure.So PR, definitely my first love.That is my agency, the Garner Circle PR, and have been doing that for 12 years now.And then recently in the last two or three years, I kind of expanded more into the world of serial entrepreneurship.
So today we're going to be talking about how you can monetize via a side hustle and get some ideas of where you can start and how to approach the planning process when thinking of potentially working for yourself.
So the first thing I want to talk about is determining your financial worth.And I want to talk about that first because that can play a role in deciding if you want or feel like you might need a side hustle.
So what factors go into determining your financial worth when it comes to offering your services in an entrepreneurial capacity or a corporate environment?
I think that you have to really start with analyzing how much value you bring to the table. And I think for a lot of women in corporate atmospheres and in the entrepreneurial space, so many of us undervalue what we actually bring to the table.
Just like when you're doing your resume, when you first started out in your career journey, And you were asked, what are your transferable skills?Or what are the experiences that you have that might apply to this?
It seems like as we get older, for some reason, we feel like that doesn't apply anymore.So you may have worked in one department and excelled at a high amount.
But for some reason, when another department opening happens, you feel like you're not qualified.But the skill set is the same and you have already shown and proven that you can, you know, rock in that world.
So I think that for many of us, it's figuring out the level of value that we bring to the table.What are those uncommon insights that we have?
What are those knowledge assets that we possess that can really help move the needle of whatever project or product that's on the table?
And so getting a bit more specific, once someone figures out what their value is and what they sort of bring to the table, how would you suggest that they go about valuating that in real life terms in terms of what they would charge someone?
Let's say, you know, I know there's different websites where you can do comparison salaries and things like that.
So if there's someone that's maybe doing things that are a little bit non-traditional, but there's obviously some crossover with some skill sets that maybe they learned in a corporate environment or otherwise, how would you suggest that they go about trying to determine what the dollar amount is that goes along with the value and the assets that they bring as a person?
Sure.There's a few different ways that you can go about determining your value.So one is breaking it down to a time,
asset model so how much time are you dedicating to this project and how much are you worth in that amount of time so you can look at the going rate across the industry all the way broken down to your geographic realm or you can also look through the different sites that you mentioned just to see what is the national standard for what it is you're doing
But then also, just like when you're getting ready to sell your car, and if your car is a used car, but you have new brakes on it, you have new interior, you did some upgrades to it, then that's the same when it comes to your value.
If you have some in-depth relationships that can help Move the project across quicker if you have some connections or some vendor opportunities that will make their cost less.
All those different things should be added to your price point so you know you're watching shark tank and it's basically like hey i can take your product and invest in it and outside of the money.
I work with whatever network and they will immediately give you exposure to a million plus people.That in itself is added value to it, which is why I'm asking for more percentage of company equity.
You just want to make sure that you're analyzing everything that you're bringing to the table and then assessing a dollar amount to that.And then what's also important too is so many of us forget to look at our time and
the amount of a financial asset.So if you look at this project and you know full off that you're going to give it your all and it's going to be 100 plus hours to that, then you should charge accordingly to that as well.
What is your hourly or what is your price bundle rate for that and not shortchanging yourself.
I'm glad you were able to break it down like that because some people talk about these ideas and concepts like, oh, determining your value and things like that, and they just say it and glaze over it.But it's like, what's underneath that?
That's what people want to know.They want to know how can I really go about doing this and seeing what I'm worth and what I bring to the table.So I appreciate you breaking that down for me.
You mentioned something that's very obvious, I think, among women especially is that so many of us undervalue our work and our worth and sell ourselves short.Why do you think that is?What's your opinion on that?
Some of it's cultural.In certain communities or whatnot, you've been told from generations ahead of you that you're not supposed to charge but a certain amount.So just be grateful for whatever you get.
This is what we get in our community and don't push yourself past that.So you have some of those generational curses that some women deal with.And two, you have a lack of confidence.
So if you are in very male-dominated, male-driven industries, then many times you don't get that opportunity to shine, to speak up, to lean in. or, you know, so many of those other opportunities.
And so you are in the space where you get to demand and see your demands being met, because it's met with constant opposition so much.So you have that as well.And then I think access to resources.
So it's a complete different thing when you are presenting a proposal and you're able to put all the bells and whistles on my PR side.I have had the opportunity to pitch with partners and the business means so much to them.
They'll bring in celebrity talent for it. they'll get custom made proposal templates and everything.They'll bring out all the bells and whistles.
And then you have this other small company pitching for the same business and basically just printed it off at Kinko, put it in a folder and came.
So you have these two people on the same playing field, which that person who, you know, print off at Kinko is probably
They're probably way more capable, will give more attention to the product, will give their all to it, their heart, soul, blood, sweat, and tears, but they feel like, I can't dare ask for what this other company has because of the bills and whistles they're able to bring.
So I think lack of resources for so many women, just being able to step to the same playing field equally so that you are able to command the same dollar.
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So what are some of the key steps to better communicating your value to your audience or to a potential employer?
I feel like we live in the world of show and prove, right?I mean, a few years ago, a decade ago, you can say, I did this, I did that.You could package it together very pretty.And people, you know, might actually rock with you.But it's today's day.
It's like, you did what?Okay, let me call this person.Let me make sure you work with them. If you produce these type of results, let me see some type of data collected that shows that you impacted the bottom line.
And I need that data from a third-party source that, of course, will be non-biased.Or, you know, you're saying that you did this.Walk us exactly through every step that you did.
So that we know for sure that you really did that and how you achieve those results.And do you feel like it would work for our company?And did you do the research to know why?So it's not how pretty you can package it type of world anymore.
It's not, you know, if you have a good mouthpiece and you can say whatever the right words are, it's show and prove.Everybody wants to know exactly every single penny that they're spending. How will it be a return on investment?
And if they spend one penny with you, what are you going to do to be able to show that and to bring that to light?So it's a different world now.If you're in the world of business and you're entrepreneurial in mindset, then you have to show and prove.
What are some of the initial questions that you think someone should be asking themselves if they're looking to start a side hustle?
I think you have to ask yourself, do you have the systems in place to be able to make money?So if this is a side hustle for you, then technology has to be your friend.You cannot risk
sacrificing your six figure paycheck during the day to randomly be answering customer service calls throughout the day.So you have to figure out and if you're trying to go full time, that's one thing.
But if it's a, if it's a side hustle for you, which I see many people who have amazing, amazing annual salaries and have matched that with their side hustle, you have to have the systems in place and you have to
not be afraid to spin so if it's your operation your side hustle whatever that venture is requires customer service you need to outsource that that needs to be in place before you can start to get ruined by all the negative commentary and I didn't receive this and I can never get anyone on the phone and all of that then that needs to be in place if you have a strong
email platform, then there needs to be automation that's in place.Automation to follow up with customers once purchased and, you know, immediately sending information over to the fulfillment center, if that's what you're doing.
Whatever it is, your systems have to be highly organized and in place to really make that side hustle work. And then you really have to understand making sure you fine tune your business model.
So given that time is not on your side because you're already dedicating 40 plus hours to something else, then maybe your side hustle should focus a little bit more on how you can make money and maybe not so much what your passion is in the beginning until you have it down to a cycle on how you can actively make money.
I like to say for those starting out into the world of side hustle, figuring out what are those things in the market that people are already paying for, are already asking for, and focusing in those areas so the income is coming in and you're starting to build up and fine-tune how you run a business, which is a lot different than you saying you have a passion for animals and rescuing animals and
You're trying to figure out how to live that passion, how to make money, and how to operate the system all at the same time.You kind of shortchange your learning curve.
So if someone has an idea, so they've already sort of like thought of what they want to do, they've decided whether it's a passion,
or whether it's something, like you said, that's maybe of the moment that they don't have to work so hard to build this product up, how do you suggest that they go about finding or identifying their target market?
Because everybody talks about target market, but I feel like it's another one of those things where people listening would want to know and that are interested in maybe potentially doing like a side hustle.
It's like, okay, they're telling me I need to identify my target market, but how do I do that?If I'm someone who's never had to identify a target market before, Where do I start?
So starting with, is your idea an extension of yourself?If it is, then you are your target market.So you need to really figure out what are the wants and needs that you have.
And so many people have, when they come up with an idea that's an extension of themselves and they're their own target market, they don't even honor what they will want to see.
So if I came up with doing an online boutique and I'm selling shoes and I know that I'm not buying You know, shoes that can break apart on me very quickly and all these things.And I'm my own target market.
Then why would I create this business, buy all these cheap shoes and then wonder why they're not selling?I wouldn't even buy them myself.So, you know, if it is an extension of you, then by all means, you need to honor what your demands would be.
And so many of us are particular, but when it comes to our business, we're like, well, these people should just understand.But you wouldn't understand.
You wouldn't support that business and you wouldn't understand, so you need to have those same requirements when it comes to your own thing.
If your idea is not an extension of you and you're not necessarily your target market, you're going after a market that you just see a void in, then figure out who, five people around you, somewhere in your circle, sphere, or just at least someone across paths, and sit down and do one-on-one
data collection from them.Do an interview process.This is an ideal customer for you.What are your likes?What are your pain points?What are you struggling with?With this type of product, what product have you loved?What have you hated?
When you see commercials for this type of product, what resonates with you and what pisses you off?Some commercials, I actually sit down and watch, and I'm like, who on earth was behind this commercial? commercial just really pissed me off.
So, you know, and so you want to find that out from your audience, your audience will give you so much more.
And if there's not at least five people around you that you can get insight from, then you know that you have to spend real deal money to get high level data collection.Like if there's no one in your sphere of
friend of a friend of a friend of a friend that will be your ideal customer, then you have to pay for the reports and you have to spend money on the surveys, paid traffic surveys and whatnot, which still cost you less money than putting out something that nobody wants and wouldn't resonate with anyone.
There's a difference between expenses and investment.So if you can see a return on your money, if you know, if I spend to do this the right way, I'll, you know, at least get two fall back and that's your investment.
If you're just spending just for the sake of spending, then that money's lost.That is what times is to be an expense.
Yeah. Since we're talking about money, let's shift in this direction.Let's talk about revenue a little bit.So what's a good place to start when you're determining how to set revenue goals for yourself?
And this could be for yourself in a business capacity, like working for yourself, or we could also think of it in terms of like professionally, like how would you say someone should start determining how to set their revenue goals?
I would definitely say whether it's entrepreneurial or whether it's corporate is What is the lifestyle that you want to live and how much does that cost?
Because the way it boils down to, if you have a certain lifestyle that you want that will make you happy and you're living below it, you're going to always be unhappy.
And if you're living above it, then you know, you feel like you have the best, best life out here.
So you want to start with what does it cost to afford you the lifestyle that you will be happy with and break that down to your bills and your mortgage or your rent and your car payment and your phone bill.
And if you know you, you're a person that has to travel, like traveling is a need for me.I feel like what am I doing with my life?If I don't get on a trip, at least.
a few times a year and those are things that you have to put into your overall quality of life expenditure report.It's your own personal report.What does it cost to live the way I want to live?
That should be your initial, we call that your net, your initial revenue opportunity.And then outside of that, what are your other whys?What are other things that you want to accomplish with your revenue?
Is it that you want to make sure your children go to college?That's another revenue goal.And if that's $20,000, then what can I do to knock this $20,000 out?Or is it paying off all your debt?No one wants to make money just to make money.
Very, very rare are any of us just sitting in a house full of dollar bills all over just rolling around in it.Your money is a tool and a process to help you accomplish something.
So you need to be honest with yourself as to what are those things you're trying to accomplish.And if it's small, that's fine.Everything doesn't have to change the world.If you're like, listen,
The fact that this cardinal is stressing me out month to month, and if I had another $1,000 coming in, this would alleviate 80% of my stress.Then that's a revenue goal in itself too.
That might be something you're not making with your traditional nine to five.So if you figure out how to open this Etsy store or do some photography or whatever that is, then you're still able to reach that revenue goal that alleviates the stress.
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I want to see if you can tell us a couple of those key financial indicators when establishing a successful business.
At the bottom line, whatever it is that you're giving your time and your energy to, it needs to result in some type of profit increase for you.So long gone are the days where, especially us as women, where we feel like you'll sleep when you die.
And you know, the life of doing business for yourself is consistent struggle and you know, if you're an entrepreneur, you're going to be broke and all those things like those are myths that have died.
Like we all know that that's just not the case anymore.So you want to make sure whatever it is that you have a financial plan in place, how to monetize whatever it is that you're doing and how to grow whatever it is that you're doing.
So some indicators that you want to make sure of is that the business idea itself is profitable. There's an audience for it.There is an audience that wants to pay for it.
And so we always say the essence of that magic, that business magic, is creating something you want to offer, but that strongly has appeal for what people want to get.So when you meet in the middle of those two circles, and that's where that business
profit magic happen.So you want to make sure that there's an audience there, that this audience is a buying audience and not a looking audience.
And two, you want to make sure that you have the knowledge and ability to move the needle or push this operation forward.And then next, you want to understand that you Can manage money that you have an understanding of cash flow for years?
I've been in a service oriented and then when I switched over to having a brick and mortar cash flow means something completely different right when your bills are coming out when people are paying and those different things need to be managed accordingly because A few things could be off and can completely throw off your month so
understanding how to manage your money too.There's people who know how to go out and get the money.There's people who know how to manage the money.If you can have both of those, then you give yourself your highest level of profit potential.
What's one of the missteps that you've taken in business and learned like a significant lesson from?
I think your reputation is everything.Whether you're climbing a corporate ladder, whether you're in entrepreneurship, your reputation is everything.
And one thing you'll always notice, no matter what journey you're on is the people that were below you at some point will be above you.And that cycle continues throughout the rest of life.
So your assistant, you know, they leave the job, they get a better offer. And next thing you know, you're both sitting at a table having to figure out how to do business together.
Or you're a former intern and now the communications director for some fashion house and you need those fashions for a client you're working with.
It's such a cycle that I know for a fact you cannot afford to ever burn a bridge if you plan on operating in the world of commerce or operating in the world of business.
That doesn't mean everybody has to be your bestie, your best friend, and there's power in having differences of thought and, you know, diversity in work style.It's some women that you respect greatly, you know, you hold a high regard.
You can never see yourself going out for drinks or having that moment with them, but the respect factor is there.So I think that if you just start out in business or if you have an old school mindset where I'm the boss and I'm
the queen and this is how it's going to be.I think either one of those mindsets can hold you back because the way that this world works is you should never know.That's the funny thing about it.
Whereas corporate used to be so stable and you have to have a certain amount of years in the game, Now it's all about millennials and youth and fresh energy.
So that intern can quickly become the head of social media for any department and be your counterpart.So I would definitely say in business, that's just something you have to know.
Because things change, and the trajectory for someone's career could be unforeseen to you and to them.It might be that they have what this person or this company needs, and then you add in the factor with these startups.
Startups don't really care about how many years you've been doing something.As long as you do it better than everybody else, they want you.They want to attack your talent and your skill level. You got to pay attention to those things.
And one thing that you made me think of as you were talking is that I know when I was at the NBA, there was like this spoken sometimes if it needed to be spoken, but it was definitely an unspoken thing to where you answered all email.
It didn't matter.It didn't matter if you knew them or not.It didn't matter if it sounded like a wonky requests, and you're like, what the hell are they talking about?It didn't matter.
You answered every email because you didn't know who was on the other side of that email.And God forbid, you don't answer an email, and a call comes in from David Stern's office, because he was the commissioner at the time.
And it's like, I suggested that so-and-so email you, and they said you never got back to them.Oh my gosh.That's like, you want to crawl under your desk.
and die really because you don't want his wrath on you about something especially so simple so when it boils down to being able to answer people there are millionaires and billionaires who have that at least that five-minute rule at least i can give you five minutes yes i i'm a very busy person it's a lot going on so you know we might can't have
hour long talk or whatever and I have a hard stop at four minutes and 59 seconds but I can at least give you the five minutes and people will always remember that at least you can give me that and you can use technology to help filter out emails and you know populate things at the top and you know give generic responses when needed so at least
There's an appearance of some type of feedback.If you want to excel, it's really on you.It's enough out there to help you do it.
Absolutely agree.Let's get into Nicole, the woman, a bit more because we've talked a lot about business and we know that you are absolutely a businesswoman who has sustained for many years.Do you have a morning routine?I do.
I tried in the beginning.I definitely tried to do the Tony Robbins routine with everything that he does.Because I just felt like he's such a beast.He's focused on achieving excellence day in and day out.
But what I realized what works for me is one, I don't do well with any negative information or levels of stress early in the morning. Afternoon and all the way into the night, I can handle it.
But if my day starts off like that, it can change the trajectory of my day.So I don't check emails first thing in the morning.Whereas as for some people they do, but I don't check emails first thing in the morning.
I kind of get my vision together for the day, map out everything, look at my calendar, see what's on the plate.
organize and put things in place so that I'm ahead of everything so like today with this interview I made sure that I had my notes already in place I knew that what the bulk of our conversation was going to be on so I didn't have that level of stress when it was time like oh my gosh
It's time for me to call in.What's the number?Where did I play it?What are we talking about again?Oh, I'm trying to look up my email.That type of stress over and over years is what you start to impede upon your quality of life.So I move everything.
As soon as I get stuff, I put it in my calendar.I send calendar invites to myself as well as whoever else is involved.I give myself all types of hacks and cheat notes to whatever it is I need. you know, what is this about?What are we doing?
Everything to prepare me to execute at my highest level so I could just be without like all the extra stress because that that'll take you out.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.Do you have any tips for navigating life changes, career changes, whether it be expected changes or unexpected?
I think you have to at one point or another in life If you're operating in the world of business, you have to become very, very comfortable with the idea of change, because it's inevitable.And I think you have to identify where the fear comes from.
So the fear for some people could come from, if things change, I'm no longer valued.If that's a possibility, then what are you doing to increase your value prior to?So do you remember on the movie Hidden Figures when
They started to see that computers are going to be the new wave of the future.And they were like, well, instead of us sitting around and figuring out how we can increase our asset, let's get on the computers.
Let's be at the front of that trend, because they're going to need somebody to work them.So apprehension with change sometimes comes from people no longer needing you, or you're not feeling needed.So figure out what else you can do to feel needed.
And then still the uncertainty comes with that too.So what are you doing to make sure that you understand the trends in your industry and you know where things are going?
There's so many people that I still find it ridiculous that now, even now they're like, I'm not into social media.I don't really don't get it at all.And social media is becoming the currency of information exchange from the highest level.
By the time you have a president that's communicating his thoughts daily on Twitter to I don't think it's a it's not even optional. for you not to hop into the world of social media.And those archaic mindsets is what keeps you behind.
Like you sign up for a few things that are not gossip based, but more informational.You sign up to Mashable, Crunch, any of those things, Google Insights, whatever it is. Get a few of those things in your inbox and you will stay ahead.
At least you'll keep up with the curve.I think that you owe that to yourself and that makes you less scared of change because you already know what's coming down the plate.
I actually talked about that on a podcast a couple of weeks ago.Anderson Cooper did this thing about brain hacking, Valley and everything.
I also read this other article that just made me think, you need to know what's going on behind the scenes in your business or at least in an area of business that you're dabbling in or you're somewhat in because if you don't know and if you're not paying attention, there's things that you're going to miss and you're going to be left behind.
You'll still be operating at a lower level. tuned into, like you said, being on some of these magazines, like their email list or some websites that really offer daily good content, then it allows you to compete with your competitors.
It allows you to inform your peers so that you're a person that seems like you know what you're talking about.And you know what?Now that I think about it, We probably think like this, Nicole, because of the PR background.
Because in PR, you have to always be up on news.You have to be paying attention to what's going on, especially if you are servicing in a client capacity.
Because don't let a client email you about something that you should have emailed them about first and notified them of.Very true.Yeah.So that's something that you guys out there listening, just
try to implement that in your world that you want to be a person that's a source of information and a source of knowledge and someone that if somebody comes across something and they're like, oh, this is cool.I wonder does XYZ know about it?
And they're asking you because you are typically the person that would know about these things.You're typically the person that would have inside information or have heard about it before everyone else or, you know, Potentially.So be that person.
Work on being that person.That's a skill set to have in itself if you can always kind of be that go-to person.Totally agree.Yeah.
So can you tell us, speaking of those types of things, what you think has contributed to your ability to stay in business for yourself for so long?
I think I never got comfortable. And that can go in no matter what profession, industry, or whatever route you're taking.I always see that people seem to not be able to bounce back once they get comfortable.
And even though I've been in business this long, I can't say that life doesn't hit me, at least every couple of years where You know, a large client that has a budget freeze or just things you weren't planning for.
So I had to have the quickest level of bounce back humanly possible and some of those instances and. I was able to because I never got comfortable.I was always like, you know, these are potential things that could happen.
So my financial reserve is always in place.I never lived outside of my means so that, you know, I could get caught off guard with that.I strongly, strongly believe in investing and saving to build my portfolio, having multiple streams of income.
has been a great opportunity for me because every industry is not going to thrive all the time.Many industries have cycles.So this cycle is on this bottom side of it.
and I have two other ventures that are on the top of their cycle, I'm still good to go.It's really just understanding you can't just relax in the world of business.It's always changing, it's always moving, and you have to be at the top of that.
You've rubbed elbows with a ton of wonderful women.Do you have any tips for relationship building?
That it has to be organic and you can never go into any relationship trying to figure out what can you get out of it.It's what can you give to it.
when you give and pour into it and you're a value to the other person, then organically those things will start to happen.It's very rare that people succeed being takers or users or opportunists with negative ambitions and goals.
You definitely want to make sure that you're pouring into it.I have a good friend of mine who is um a self-made millionaire and to this day she she honors her mentor so much her mentor apply to Atlanta.
And before she even lets her mentor press the Uber button, she'll come out there and pick her up.
And she validates spending that quality time with her mentor, even if it's just, you know, driving her to her hotel or, you know, knowing her mentor is going to be very busy, then at least that bit of downtime, she gets that insight and that reflection, but she's offering something to her.
She's not having this expectation of, Why don't you, why can't you come meet me somewhere?Or why can't you do this for me?Or, you know, I just don't understand.It's from like, what can I do for you?
And then, and in that space, you'll be blessed accordingly.And then also when it comes to relationships, it's not going to click with everyone.You can't force it.
Mm-hmm.Mm-hmm.I mean, Nicole, this has been such a great conversation.You just have a wealth of knowledge.And thank you so much, Nicole, for joining us today.Thank you so much for blessing us with all of your wisdom.
And as always, you guys, keep killing it.
The sun's shining, birds are singing, and all feels right in the world.
Until the season changes and suddenly you lose your motivation to get out of bed.In fact, one in five people experience some form of depression no matter the season or time of year.
At the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, our vision is to build a mentally healthy nation for all because we want you to live your best life and be your best you all year round.
Please visit mentallyhealthynation.org to learn more.
The sun's shining, birds are singing, and all feels right in the world.
until the season changes and suddenly you lose your motivation to get out of bed.In fact, one in five people experience some form of depression no matter the season or time of year.
At the American Psychiatric Association Foundation, our vision is to build a mentally healthy nation for all because we want you to live your best life and be your best you all year round.
Please visit mentallyhealthynation.org to learn more.