Get up, stand up, stand up for this app.Welcome to How Do We Human.This is the podcast where we talk about all the weird and uncomfortable micro moments in life.I'm one of your hosts, Chris Binning.I'm one of your hosts, Evan Cox.
Today, you know, we've talked about stand up, but today we're going to switch it up and talk about standing up. Yeah, and stand bars.Yeah.Is that the intro you were going to do?Okay, cool.
Evan, before we talk about standing up, I want to talk to you about your life as a stand up gentlemen.
Evan, how you doing? You know, I'm doing all right.I've got stories I want to tell.Maybe one of them ends up being an episode.But I have to supersede all of that.Because today I got a phone call from a toll free number.So I ignored it.
But then I got as soon as the call ended, I was like, fuck, I bet that was spectrum.And I do need to talk to them.And then I got the voicemail.It was spectrum.So then I called them back.
But I'm also like, I have an iPhone, these things are so fucking good at going like, oh, we think it's this when it's a company like spectrum, you can't, it doesn't just, you're calling me from a toll free number, right off spectrum, fuck right off.
Anyways, I'll try to give a brief short History, I mean people who listen to the podcast know the troubles I've had yes, they Forced me to have TV service.I keep trying to get it off.
I got it off But they're like we sent you a sumo box, which is how you stream TV via spectrum I'm like, I don't want a sumo box.They sent it to the wrong location.
So I never got it that became its own fucking headache and We got to a comfortable place and where I wasn't happy, but they were like, I think we we did it.We solved it.
And I just looked like a week ago, and I'm still I've been paying for television services since February.So you love that?Yeah, I was like, you know what?Pulp Fiction, this thing, we're going back, so I got to tell a side thing.
I got an exciting email the other day. It's just one of those automated emails that goes out and it was from spectrum.And they're like, we would love to hear from you.You sure about that?You sure?You sure about that spectrum customer service survey?
Boom, here's my chance to shine.I can type I could be a anonymous keyboard warrior like I've always wanted to be but have been too scared. And I think it's valid that I was honest.So like, there are good things.
Honestly, the internet's been pretty solid since I've been here.
There's a lot of good things.But there's a little text box to be like, you know, how's our customer service?I'm just like, here's your problem. Your customer service strategy is terrible.
You mean you actively are having your employees be rude to people to try to just force them to get services they don't want.And it's awful.I've got Frontier knocking down my door. Maybe I go with them.
Yeah.Don't let Spectrum know that Frontier doesn't actually have you in their service area.
They just messed up and went to the wrong address.My house ever again. But I've got that because they know they can see that they know frontier is new to my area.
They don't know the specifics So I had that out there and it whatever that feels like just a release valve and you're never gonna hear back about it or anything but so Going back to where I was I realized I'd been charged all this money and I'm like I counted it up You know, it was like 30 bucks collectively.
I've been charged.It's nothing I I know how Spectrum works and eventually that will upcharge like at the end of the year and it'll be $200 for television and a $50 Zoomobox rental.
So I wanted to get rid of it and I was like I'm gonna hop on their little AI chat and just in the past, this hasn't done shit.But I felt the energy to do it.And I'm like, I'm gonna get on the AI chat, let them know, just keep it simple.
I have a billing issue.I've been being billed for television, I did not order television, I don't want it, I would like to be refunded $30 or $40 or whatever it was.And they're just like, Well, thank you.
I have forwarded your message to customer service.You will hear back from them.I'm never gonna hear back from them.Today.I heard back from them.It was the best customer service. The best customer cervix I've ever seen.
It was the best customer service experience.It was unbelievable.This person was so nice and didn't even ask questions, was just like, okay, so I see you've been charged for this.
Let me look back and see if I can see a call where they told you they were going to charge you for this. And like 10 seconds later, it's like, no, yeah, no one ever called and said they were going to add this to.OK, so that seems like a mistake.
Well, you know, it's going to take.And as soon as it goes to that, I'm thinking like, well, you know, your phone service sucks.So maybe we'll give you a spectrum, your bitch.This is what I'm used to.
And he's like, well, it's going to take 24 to 48 hours to get that credited to your account.But very soon you'll see that and then that'll be applied to your next bill. Anything else you need?Oh my God, it happened in one phone call.
I spent hours in a single like battle with them where they passed me from person to person to person and I get nowhere.I complained.I told them Frontier was in town.They must have a separate department for like, oh, we have to be nice to this person.
I don't know, but it's theoretically done.Knock on wood.
Uh, yeah, I do, you know, just given the long history of, um, your issues with spectrum, I do, uh, want to just have a little cautionary tale.You better start checking these bills.Cause just cause they told you it was over.It doesn't mean it's over.
I'm going to do it. And you know what?My birthday is coming up.So 40 bucks off my Internet bill.Happy birthday to me.Nice, Chris.Yes.What do you got going on?And by that, I mean, how you doing?We don't do that segment anymore.
And lately, I keep saying, well, you got to help it.
Yeah.Uh, speaking of, uh, segments that have changed to stick around for the end of the episode.Anyway, um, I'm doing all right.I, this is a story from the laundry room, um, in my building of five units, we all share one laundry room.Um,
And, you know, I go in there.I won't ever like start doing a load of laundry if either the washer or the dryer, because we just have the one set if either one of them is in use.
So even if the dryer is in use and the washer is open, I'm not going to start my was the same in my old place.
Yeah, I so both of them were open.I start doing a load of laundry.I don't. I have an estimate for how long these machines take, but there's no like timer on there.So I don't know exactly how long or when to come back.
Um, but I've kind of worked it out that it's about 30 minutes with the washer and about an hour with the dryer.Um, and so I come back after like 35 minutes or so and the laundry room door is open, or it's a jar, I should say.
So I push it open a little bit and there's another guy in there and he's like, oh, hey, and the washing machine is going.And he was like, hey, I'm sorry.I, and I don't quite understand what he did, but it sounds like the washing machine
was closed because mine clothes were in there.It sounds like he put the quarters in and started it before putting his own clothes in.And because my clothes were in there already, he sent them through for another wash.Give him another go.Yeah.
I don't understand how you do that.Like,
I don't know anybody who starts the washing machine before loading it.
That's an optimistic person.Nothing can go wrong today.Throw money.
And even if you started, I feel like once you open it, it stops.So I don't know.
Unless he like you do, unless he was like, you know, just spaced and like looked in there and was like, I guess I loaded it and then starts it thinking that they're his clothes then turning and realizing all his clothes are still sitting right next to him.
That's the only like justification I can think. Uh, for how that could have happened, but yeah, very bizarre.But then I was like, you know, I don't want to waste his. $1.50.So I suppose I'll let my clothes get an extra free wash.
I would be heartbroken if I lost a buck 50 of laundry quarters.That's brutal.
Yeah.So it ended up all being fine for me, but it was just a very strange experience to to have him be like, oh, sorry, I did it again.I washed your clothes again.
OK, so next time, move them to the dryer first.Yeah.
That's wild.I love it.I don't miss sharing laundry room with people, but I do hate having to stand up and go downstairs to do my laundry.Yes.Down to the garage.I don't have like stairs.
Uh, this was an episode topic that you suggested you were very passionate about talking about standing up.Uh, what's going on, Evan?What's going on here?
First off, laundry related.I'm wearing a kiss shirt today because I need to do laundry. And I, for whatever reason, always feel uncomfortable wearing all my concert shirts.
So your concert shirts are your, like, that's laundry day.
They're laundry day shirts, 100%.
How many laundry day shirts do you have?
I got a Kiss shirt.I got an Iron Maiden shirt.I got a Colt shirt.
That should be your shirt for ironing.
That should be my ironing shirt.The Colt.That's just a black shirt that says, support your local Colt.So I don't wear that anywhere.It makes me laugh, so I had to buy it. Yeah, two or three others.Anyways, standing up.
Let's get to the bottom of this and then raise slightly.This starts with me going to my old chiropractor.Not my old chiropractor, my new chiropractor.Not old, ol, O-L apostrophe.Got it.Going to the ol' chiropractor. We're doing good.
So I as I moved up here, it had been a long time since I saw my old old. with a D man.
Oh man, this is going to be a confusing story.
Yeah, but I have faith in our listeners.They can put the pieces together.So as happens, you know, if you if you go into the chiropractor, you kind of want to go.
If you're doing OK, still want to try to go like once a month or so just for upkeep, walking around, sitting too long, driving too long.All this stuff wears on your back. So I was in rough shape.
I got to the point where it's like, oh, my back hurts every day and my neck hurts every day.
Time to find any other parts of your bodies.Besides your neck, your back.
OK, I'll mention the crack.OK, I mentioned the other part, but. They didn't want to do anything with my crack.
In fact, every time every time I go to the chiropractor, they're like lay face down on the table, then they crack my back and then they have to pull my shirt over my bare midriff.So they don't want anything to do with my crack.
How does that make you feel?Sad.Have you asked if you've been like, as long as we're cracking, as long as we're cracking, you want to crack this crack? You want to take a crack at this?You want to take a crack at this crack?
Anyways, so my first appointment, they x-rayed me and were like, Oh yeah, you got these problems with your neck and your back is doing a goofy little thing.We can fix that.I highly recommend a standing desk.Do you have one?
No, I don't have a standing desk, but I know they make those little like
riser things like i'm sure a full standing desk is so expensive and maybe i just haven't looked at one in a while but i got a new desk that i already i got i don't know a year ago uh that's a sitting desk and i like this desk so i'm not gonna get a new desk i'm gonna get something i could put on top of it which i have
Uh, and so they were basically saying, like, you're at work, you're sitting too long, which I'm doing right now.I'm back at it.You're sitting too long during the day.Your spine is compressing.There's too much popping.We got to do.
You just got to mix it up.You don't have to stay on the whole day, but, uh, just try, try it out.So I got this thing.Uh, it's a big. It's a big thing.It sits on my desk and has a keyboard tray and then another layer where the monitors go.
So my monitor is just there.And then I've got a little hook thing that I just push and it raises the desk and I can stand.It's working out so far, I thought.Here's the rub.
Too many layers on your desk?
Well, there is that because my current desk has a keyboard tray and a separate tray for the mouse and then a second level where I can do work and I have my little keyboard thing there.And then a third level where the monitors go.
And now that is holding this new thing, which has the fourth level, a keyboard tray and a fifth level for the monitor.So my desk looks fucking insane.
You've got an ogre desk.Ogre desk?With layers.Hey, like an onion.Ogres are like standing desks.
Ogres are like standing desks.Too many layers.But you can stand or you can sit.
Okay.These are real bad Shrek impressions.I feel like I used to have and we'll get back to your story in a minute, but I need to talk about myself.
I feel like I used to have a really good Shrek impression, and it's one of those things that's just lost to time. I also felt like I used to have a good donkey impression, but that's lost to being in a different time.
Yeah.I feel like I used to have good impressions of that whole trio, Puss in Boots as well.And that's in a similar vein as the donkey impression.
You thought it was perfect Yeah, I love this thing and it's a nice option and it is better for my back I'm noticing if I'm doing some standing during the day and it's kind of fun.It's changes things up I'm like, oh now I'm working different
But it got cold a little while ago at night and my knees started acting up. And that happens.Cold weather activates, old injuries.I don't know why.I'll never understand why, but my knee was really killing me.
And now it's been weeks and my knee is still killing me.I've been wearing a knee brace and I'm looking it up and it's like, yeah, that can be a thing.If you're using a standing desk, it can be bad for your knees.
Well, what's a guy to do?I need this cherry on top of, like, I don't want to have to work.I want to retire ASAP.Let's get out of here.Yeah.
I have to be in pain one way or the other.There's just no way around it. a floating desk.I had a standing desk at my previous office and two jobs before that.Have you ever had to use or?Yeah, I guess most of your works.
Most of your works have been on foot.Yeah, gigs anyways.
Yeah, I also want to talk about I mean is if we're talking about. Like, you know, at when I was a cashier, right?I guess you could consider my cash register my desk in a in a way.And that was absolutely standing location.
My current job also the area I do most of my the main section of my job is at a standing podium as well.
Yeah, and I podium.Yeah, that's what those are called.So I have experience working at a computer or some sort of digital interface in a standing position, but I wouldn't necessarily. Jump to call that a standing desk.
Yeah, if I had like a traditional 9 to 5 at a standing desk, I don't.I don't know how productive I'd.Really be.Yeah.It's it's I feel like I spend so much time just thinking about how exhausted I am.
Yeah, the old the offices I've worked at that had. standing, two sitting desks, where you had the option.
I exercise that option so infrequently, and I think a part of that is coming from working at Walgreens for years, and really, and I still do, really resenting
the mandate that's like, and I don't think every store does, and honestly, I see it less and less now, but there was the mandate that you cannot be seen sitting.Yes.If you're at the register, you have to stand all fucking day.
We'll put like a pad under your feet.
Yeah, soft anti fatigue matting.
Yeah, it's it's still a hard mat and it hurts my feet and my back and my wrist, my feet, my neck and my face.I resent the hell out of that.And now anytime I go into a Walgreens and there's a cashier with a fucking chair there, I'm like.
You count your blessings.Yeah, you don't know what I went through.I stood so you could sit.
It just always felt like such torture.It's an extreme word to use.
Yeah, I'm just like, anytime I was working the photo desk, it's like, I'm free to walk around. But if you're working that front register, you have to lock that gate behind you.There's nowhere to go.I'm standing in one spot for 10 hours some days.
Yeah, it is.It is like I don't understand that why that mandate was ever in place either.I mean.It's like I understand. who came up with it and why they thought to come up with it.
But I don't understand why there was never any sort of second opinion ever given to deter that from becoming a complete mandate.But yes, that was our thing as well.I think maybe the last year I was a cashier, they added these like,
little wooden like things that folded out from the back part of the register so you could like lean but not fully sit.
But it was just far enough away from the register that if you were actually doing a thing you were always standing and it was generally busy enough that you were always standing anyway.But it was there as like a,
a reminder of like, if it was slow, you could sit down.
And then a little sign next to it that says, also, if you can lean, you can clean.Yeah, exactly.Get to work.Get to work.Yeah, it's it's bad.So I resented standing at work again, moving at work.Great.
I'm happy to be on my feet, moving around, doing stuff. It's just having to stand in front of a desk all day or stand in front of a register all day.Is brutal to me and I don't like it.
Yeah, that's that's pretty much that there were though when I worked there, there were some people who would get employed alongside me.And they would just.Do it.They just bring a chair.Hmm. And I'm like, hey, I'm on the side of the working man.
Of course. But there is that part of you that's just like, that's not fair because I'm not going to do that.I don't have that confidence.So please stop.
So there was never like a year you didn't have a boss come through and see that and be like, get that chair out of here.We would have a chair.I'm going to flip out.
Yeah, there would be people who would do that.There would just be some. Managers who would be like up in the office all day and would never come down.You'd never really see them ever and collect their paycheck.
And their paycheck would be much bigger.And some managers who just like didn't give a shit and then take advantage of that. I was very jealous.
Yeah, I don't remember ever ever sitting there I would go to the stock room and sit on the paper towel boxes like a gentleman Yeah, I I'm trying to think of where I
I would sit down if, if ever at like I had Ikea or I mean at my current job I have a lot less like standing up at that podium time.So I sit down a lot more frequently.But at Ikea I feel like, um, I think I mostly just,
did a lot of leaning on like shopping carts or on, um, you know, back wall cabinet stuff.Um, and then would sit down obviously in the break room.But, uh, yeah, it is, I, I don't, I know that the, the common, um, reasoning for not having chairs for,
essential workers is it makes them seem lazy.
We don't want that.I want you to help me right now.Yeah, I want you to come over here and tell me how to work my own cell phone because I don't understand it.
Or, you know, I need you to come over here and verify that this product that says it's 399 and that's the only price anywhere nearby. Is it really 399?Just a lot of dummies.Dummies.Yep.Thank you.
Just a lot of dummies creating rules and then demanding assistance.
And people people were always talking. why why does evan always jump at the opportunity when he's working the cash register to stock cigarettes because we had cigarettes behind the counter That's because I could sit.I could if we're not busy.
I'll go sit on a stool because the cigarettes were at like waist level.Oh, I could sit on a stool and stock cigarettes and I would do that all fucking day.But otherwise, it's like, if we're not busy.There's no one there.You just got to stand there.
Listen to Bette Midler.I Good morning.Maybe someone will go buy you a coffee.I don't know.Is that gonna help?I have one other like awkward.
And this is probably you know, it's this podcast, it's gonna be a thing that it's like, I think only I find this awkward.In relation to the chiropractor.So I, there are two chiropractors at the office I go to
I was seeing one, started seeing the other one, one of them went on vacation, started seeing that first one again.So it's gone back and forth a few times.
And, you know, it's like they have all the same information, but it's not the same as seeing the same person every time. you know.
So when I saw that first person and they asked me to get a not didn't like ask me to get a standing desk they suggested like I strongly suggested it would be for your issues it would be really great and by the time I had gotten one I had to see the other chiropractor so I told them I was like hey
I was recommended to me.I'm a good boy.I got a standing desk.And he's like, huh?Oh, the other chiropractor recommended I get a standing desk.It's like, oh, you got like you got a Vera desk.And I'm like, yeah.
But I was like, I've heard the term very desk.I'm like, yeah, sure.It doesn't matter.You know, there's basically where I'm coming from.Doesn't fucking matter what kind of desk I got.I got one that I can sit or I can stand. Thinking, no big deal.
This guy brings up the fucking Veridesk every time I see him.I looked it up and these things are expensive as hell.So now I'm like, does he think I'm a little rich boy?
Like, oh, the chiropractor suggested it and I immediately spent $2,000 on a Veridesk.No, I didn't.And the next time, they've got their check-in system.You walk in, there's a laptop there.
You type in your phone number, it pulls up your account and there's a text box that says what's wrong with you.Not like they're updating it and being like, he's kind of rude.
The issues you're dealing with, you have the opportunity to update it there and say, actually now, back's doing fine, this or that.But I didn't realize the chiropractor can also update it. And so this thing had been the same this whole time.
It just said back and neck issues.And that next time I came, it said, got a Varidesk.And his neck's hurting.Back's feeling a little better.
It made it to my check-in.I don't have a Varidesk.
So I find this awkward as hell.I don't know why I hate the... There's nothing worse than someone thinking like, Oh, you do well for yourself.You have a lot of money, but not having any of that money.I don't want the reputation.
Yeah, I that is that is interesting.I don't know.Yeah, I don't know what to do about that, but I do feel like that would be awkward.I've never heard that term until you've said it multiple times now in the last five minutes, but had not heard of it.
But yeah, it is like, That is awkward, because eventually it's not like he's ever going to see the desk, right?Well, eventually, unless he asks, which model do you have or which can I see a photo of the one you got?
Maybe that'll that'll come into play.So you might want to start either preparing for the truth or deciding to deepen the lie and just pull them, pull a photo of a desk you like, but didn't pay for.It's like this is the one I got. It's up to you.
The choice is in your hands.They do have Veridesk options that are like what I got.So it just sits on your desk, but even that is $400.But otherwise, at the top of the screen here, it's like, here's a thing for $500 off of $2,000.
Yeah, no, that's not the way I buy things. Sure.It's $500 off.If it's $500 off and I still can't afford it, I'm shopping at the wrong place.
Yeah.Something I'd like to talk about vis-a-vis standing up.And this, I guess in some ways, can also be related to sitting down.
What kind of noises do you make when you stand up?
Oh no.I make so many noises.Yeah.Did we do this?I had, I just had a flash memory of early in the podcast recording the sound of me standing up. Does that sound familiar?
It sounds vaguely familiar, but I don't know.
I don't, yeah, I don't think I could do it right now just organically.I don't, should I stand up?Show off my gesture?Yeah, let's see.
Yeah, see if you can... The question at this point, because I will say I make terrible noises every time I stand up, the question is if I'm thinking about it, do I still make the noise?
Am I going to have to put effort into this to not make a noise?All right, show off my shirt and my gut I'm scared Okay.All right.I just stood up.
Yeah, it is like I would say that I The noise yeah i i definitely do a little bit of that a little bit um a little bit of like you know kind of a grunting noise um but it isn't like every time
As we just found out with you as well, it's not every time.
I feel like it is every time.I don't know.
Yeah.I feel like sitting down, maybe I have more of like a, like I have more of that.My wife has started to point it out to me and she thinks that it's like a symptom sometimes of like, oh, he must be,
mad that he's letting out that like that noise and it's like i'm not mad i'm just unfortunately old it's the sound that makes when my bones crunch together and squeeze my lungs because i did a normal thing we all do every day yeah on the couch yeah uh yeah no i mean i make some terrible noises i wish uh one would have come out just then but it didn't we did get a little noise of me sitting down
Yeah.No, it's gotten bad.The other issue I have, and this is a constant, especially in this roof, my office, which is the little loft up here, and it's an A-frame.You can see the wall here.This wall is going like this.
the amount of times I hit my head standing up.
And my dad always had the same issue.They still does.But growing up, it was like always a thing.Like my dad would always have like a scab on his head, because he would stand up too fast and hit his head on something. that can't be genetic.
I'm not a giant.I'm a little under six foot two.That's tall.I'm not big.I'm just average tall.I can't Jocelyn's car loading it up that it's like an SUV.So the trunk I don't know what you call it, it's not a trunk.A hatchback?The back opens up like...
I hit my head on that every fucking time.And granted, it's just too low.But I'm like, what's wrong?What is wrong with me?Are you hitting your head out there very much?
Not especially.I mean, I feel like it's more often that I will hit my shoulder on something.
I don't do a lot of shoulder hitting, but elbows.
Yeah, some elbows, some, uh, some knee, maybe a little bit.I don't know.I don't feel like I, I take too many hits.
Uh, I, yeah, explains me.
Uh, yeah, like right now. I just don't do these kinds of mental equations in my head, in the way that, if I'm doing laundry, I do think, I should open that up first, because I like to pour the detergent in first.
That's just me.That is often what you're supposed to do, in most models.
That's just me.Everyone else I've ever lived with does not live by this rule.They go hog wild. I can't, I can't deal with this.Anyways, I never thinking about it.
But now looking up, like, because this desk has keyboard tray, and then separate mouse tray, there is like a fixed place I should be, which is here in front of the keyboard. and standing straight up.I'm not like this where my arm is.
If you're watching on the video feed youtube.com at how do we human is the top I can stand up right here.Right here is like, well, you can't see the whole thing.But it's part of the angled roof.
If I stand up directly from where I'm sitting, I'll hit my head.
and that's bad that is bad and you can't obviously there's a there has to be a fixed place you are at the desk for the keyboard and the mouse is there space to adjust the desk over so that when you stand up you don't hit your head that would be lovely tour it true but it twinked
I could move my desk if I got different monitor stands Which I use for mixing music and I need them in a specific place.So That's on me Yeah, I Could otherwise, okay, I'm not giving that up.
I'm gonna hit my head 20 times a week instead And start forgetting things all the fucking time That's bad But yeah, I've done a lot of it.Standing up and smacking my head.My theory is baldness, and if you're not hitting your head, no deal.
But my dad is bald.So I was like, I've got a lot of bald people that hit their heads.Maybe you lose that hair cushion.It's like cats with whiskers when they go and do a thing and they feel it with their whiskers first.
You feel it with your hair and you go,
I mean, I guess that's possible.I'm shorter than you are.So maybe I'm just not in as many, uh, situations.Yeah.Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.I guess, you know, I scoffed at your theory originally, and now I'm like, man, I guess I can maybe see that.
I guess I can maybe see, like, you know, the top of your hair or some some loose ends or something are up there and are able to to detect different incoming surfaces.I guess that's possible.
I just theory I'm going to need a wig.
Yeah, that you know what should get away.We should get some wigs for you and then see like which ones alert you.Like if you had a big like.Afro or something in a Turner.Yeah, if you stood up, then would that make you stop?Stop in place.
It's a good question and I think we should find out the answer.
I've never really worn a wig.It sounds very fun or a toupee.
I, you know, this is, you mentioned a segment that we don't do anymore, which is what do you have going on?I'd like to bring back a segment we haven't done in a long time.Yeah. And that's what have we learned?
Oh, that is weird.We haven't done that in a long time.Yeah.
I mean, we just kind of stopped learning things.I think learning hit my head.Um, you know, if, if you feel awkward standing up, whether it's just from a chair or at a desk or, or whatever, what have we learned to help? Curb some of that.
Yeah, I mean I do and I don't know if I really believe this or if it's just from my yearly recurrent training.
Comfortable shoes and a little bit of that anti fatigue matting, even though it's not plush, you know it is still better than just the ground. Gives you a tiny bit of cushion to make standing there a little bit more enjoyable.
We've learned that standing desks are like ogres.
Go ahead and this is a new.Getting a phone call.
This is a live on the pod.
Spectrum mean like actually we are going to give you more for TV.
We, we decided, fuck it.Yeah.
We decided that since you had a problem being charged $30 for TV, we're going to charge you $50 for TV.
It's always brutal to me that every time I talk to them, the initial thing is like, so you haven't gotten your Zuma box yet?We can send that out.Now the new factor here is that I work from home, so like I never wearing shoes up here.Is it?
I don't even know.Is it better on your feet barefoot or wearing socks as I am right now?Or would I be better off wearing comfortable shoes?I don't know.I don't know the difference.I've never been allowed to be barefoot at work.
Yeah, that is an interesting point.I hadn't considered how that like working from home a relief to take your shoes off.
Absolutely.But does that like I got those, you know, Dr. Scholl's insoles and shit. Would I be better off wearing shoes?I don't know.
You know, you have a lot of experiments to start running here in your home.
I'd be up here wearing my shoes and a Tina Turner wig.Yeah.Oh, sorry, honey.I got to go to work on my zoom meetings.I do.I do like the challenge and we'll get back to what we've learned, but I do like the challenge.
Unfortunately, I think they're kind of expensive, but I want to go out there and try to find the most natural looking toupee for me that I could find.That sounds fun.
I would be very interested to see what that looked like as well, because I think since I've known you, your hair has either been extremely short or you've been bald.So I would be very interested to see how, like,
How much volume a toupee that you received would have?
How much volume my head could handle looking remotely naturally?I lost it.I had a picture of me with long hair.I don't know where it went.Yeah, I don't know.We might have raised more questions than found answers.
I don't know what to do about making noise when standing and sitting. I don't know where it comes from or what that is.I don't feel like I'm in pain when I'm doing it.
But yeah, I think is it natural?I think there's a level of it being natural.I also think that. It comes from, uh, not being as in shape as, uh, maybe we should be.I think that the more active you are, the less that would, uh, that would come up.
But if anybody listening is, you know, An active little gym rat.And I, and I know that this podcast is the type that attracts those, those gym rats.
We got Dustin, Dustin. You got four points and you're a bit of a gym rat.You make the noises when you stand up and sit.
Yeah, let us know what noises.In fact, if we could get all of our listeners to send us just a quick little voice note of how they sound when they stand up.
I can make it into a beat.
Yeah, we can make it into a beat and and make the play the song on the podcast.Oh, we greatly appreciate it.That would be fantastic.How do we human pod at gmail.com?Anything else we've learned?
I don't know.I mean, a standing desk can be a good option.It's impossible.You never listen.But if anyone out there is just a little bit younger than we are, take these steps ahead of time.If you work from home, you're working at a desk.
I think this was 100 bucks.That's not nothing, but it's just good to switch it up. your back will thank you for it later.
And the worst part of life is you'll never know if you never experience back pain and neck pain, you'll never know to appreciate that.So Yeah.Just do it.Do yourself a favor because this sucks and my knee is killing me.
Yeah.I think also if you're younger than us and you or if you work in like a frontline essential worker position.Oh yeah.Has a chair now. Send us a thank you for our service.Okay.Respect your veterans.Um, and, and, uh, thank us for our service.
Um, that's fair.Yeah.And if you work for spectrum, um, please send us a copy of, uh, of every transcript in Evans file.And let's see if we can get to the bottom of what's going on at your company.
There we go.Let's do it.It did just occur to me.This was the first time this has ever happened.My spectrum person, the customer service woman called and was like, I forget her name.Let's say it was Jane.It's like, Hey, this is Jane.
Hey, this is Jane calling from spectrum customer service.I'm calling from Florida. How are you doing?Am I never going to be like, I don't normally throw it out.Should I have like, are you safe? Oh, hurricane.Hurricane went through there recently.
Sure, I yeah, that that didn't even occur to me at all.I just had my coastal elite preconceived notions about the state of Florida.
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You know, we, uh, had recently, uh, anybody that had been sticking around for, to the end of these episodes might know that we had been playing a little trivia.
Uh, also if you listened to the last episode, you saw us do it with, uh, our previous guest, John Schneider.Um, although that was, that was out of regulation.Um, of course the, the previous, uh, competition was to play to a hundred points.
I was the victor in that. But we decided, you know... Yes, you were.Yeah, I'd love to hear your argument first.
I listened back to the tape, so there were a few answers I have qualms with. I thought you were saying you won the one we did with John.
No, you and I tied.And I have wondered ever since, did I make the right choice going second in that draft?Who knows?Who knows? We've decided, you know what?It's fun to tease our little brains and test our trivia.So we're going to reset the score.
I've won the first competition, but now we're starting both of us back at zero points, and we're going to see how does this next one go?Is this going to be best two out of three?Is this going to be best three out of five?
This is gonna be the rest of seven.
I feel like going through that the first time I started off real slow.And then yeah, it which doesn't make sense.They're completely different unrelated questions.But I feel like I was getting better and better at it.
Yeah, you know, you still have a down day.But I'd like to see starting from here because I never I never Never really got back up on you.
You were never in the lead for that entire last game.You did get close.So maybe we'll find out if you can take the lead out the gate here.Do you feel confident in that, Evan?
All right, well, let's see how this goes.Five questions.We both have zero points.Question number one. What was the first James Bond book?Thunderball, Casino Royale, Goldfinger, or Doctor No?
This is right up my alley and I'm terrified to get it wrong, but I feel 95% sure I know the answer.
All right, I'm at about 70% sure.I'm between two.I know.
Yeah, I'm going to pick Casino Royale as the first one.Of course, Doctor No is the first movie, but I believe Casino Royale is the first book.Yeah.All right.We both got that correct.Both starting strong.Neck and neck.
It's not strange, because Casino Royale is such a solid title for something.They never used that as a movie title until 2010, eight, nine, somewhere in there.
Well, that first one.I mean, let's let's get through this, because I do think that the first one was 2006, the first Daniel Craig.But I also think that they made an out of canon Casino Royale.
David Niven Casino Royale.Yeah.
Is it not called Casino Royale?I thought it was.
It is called Casino Royale.But yeah.Different, I guess.I don't know.I don't know why.But it exists.I'm wrong.Okay.Question number two.Ichthyologists study what?Fish, reptiles, mammals, or amphibians.Ichthyologists.I wanted to say I knew.
And maybe I still do. I think I'll stick with that answer, although all of these answers sound great.
You're beautiful.I I'm going to go with amphibians.And I don't my backup and quite know why.
All right, let's see.Fish was correct, Evan.Woof.
Amphibians was my backup.
My backup was reptiles, so I wasn't even close. Question three, what type of acid is used in car batteries?Citric, sulfuric, hydrochloric, or acetic?I have no idea, by the way.
Feels like a thing I've heard before, but yeah, definitely zero confidence here.I'm leaning towards two,
I'm also between two, this is rough.It's rough when, um, you know, you've heard of all of these, you know, you sometimes you hope that you've heard of only one or two, so you can try and narrow it down.
But I've heard of all of these acids and I'm between two, I'm going to go.I'm going to go with one and I'm not really sure why it's sticking out at me.I'm going to say S S addict.
Once again, you're you're picking my you're picking the one I am stuck between that I'm not going with.I'll go with sulfuric.
OK, that was not the other one I was between, so we'll see if that bodes well for you again like it did in that last question.It does.
It's happening.It's happening.
Everyone's starting to run away with it here.
To where in France do the sick make pilgrimages? I almost don't know what that means.I don't know.Marseille, Nice, Lourdes, I don't know that one, or Paris.
Sick.Yeah, I, you know, I have my answer and it's unclear where it's coming from in my brain. I'll go with Lords.That's also what I'm going with.So let's see.That was correct.It'll never be Royals.
Um, Evan, I don't want to put any pressure on you, but if you get this last one, right, you will have started our race to 100 points with a perfect game.
Taken literally.What should you see in a hippodrome?Birds, fish, horses, or lions?
Hippodrome.I don't know what it is.Never heard that term.
I, I have an answer, but I, again, this is, I've been flying blind this whole game, except for that James Bond question.
I've got an answer and I hate it.
It sounds like the fact that you hate it, it means we're going with the same answer is my guess, but let's see, what are you, what are you going to go with?
I'm thinking fish. which I hate because I've answered that correctly for a different question.And what are the chances that two of these have the same answer?Maybe they're just fucking with me, but I have bad reasoning for it.I'm going to say fish.
Well, Evan, I am also going to say fish.Um, before I click it, what do we think a hippodrome is?
I mean, what should you see in one?I'm picturing, like, a James Cameron Titanic submersible.Yes.
I am also picturing a James Cameron submersible.Let's see if we were correct.
We might have to look it up.
horses was the correct answer horses was my first answer that's what I wanted to go with but I've been watching that show Kripopolis and there's the character hippocampus which I don't know I think that's a part of the brain
but he's like a fish guy.I'm like, Oh, maybe they used the root of hippo.And it's a fit.I could have had all five if I'd gone with my initial gut.
A hippodrome is a track.It looks like where horses race around.So James Cameron submersible a little off in our in our guessing.
But after all of These Avatar movies, James Cameron just got really into dry stuff.
It's just like the way of deserts.
Yeah.Oh, James Cameron would make a pretty dope dune movie.OK, listen.Hippo.OK, bye.OK, bye.
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