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Today it's a special Rewind episode, heading all the way back to 2010, where I sat down with Adele right before she became a superstar.She had had one album out so far. That was her debut, 19, and she was just releasing her sophomore record, 21.
And we got to discuss the emotional inspiration behind that record, which emerged from a devastating breakup that led her to create some of her most powerful music yet, even still today.
She revealed that she initially struggled to find direction, waiting for life to hit her with the emotional experiences to draw upon for the songwriting.
And this raw vulnerability is clear in the hits like Rolling in the Deep, maybe one of the greatest songs of all time, definitely of the last decade, which, contrary to her expectations, skyrocketed as a viral hit worldwide.
I told her in this interview, as you will hear, that it would win her many awards, and it did.We also got to talk about her experience covering the Cure's Love Song,
A choice suggested by Rick Rubin, producer, and her appreciation for reinterpretations of her music, like Jamie XX's remix of Rolling in the Deep.
She also reflected on the power of music videos to capture the mood and messages of her songs, and a whole lot more.So let's rewind this tape all the way back to 2010.It's Kyle Meredith with Adele.
kind of heading back to the right after the last album and all the promotion was finished.You just finished up with 19 and all the great success that brought.Did you know what you were going to do right after that?
Did you have any vision in mind of what would become 21?
Not a specific vision, no.I was actually a little bit daunted by the prospect of writing another record.
And not even because of the success of my first album, I just had no idea what I was going to write about, and I really didn't feel ready to write a record.
And because I write about myself, I had to really sit twiddling my thumbs and wait for life to suddenly hit me.But I have a vision, I just can't be articulate with it, but I feel it when it's right. I just had to wait until I felt it.
And you felt it, unfortunately, in the worst ways, from what I understand.
What happened there, if you don't mind going into it?
It was just the most amazing, brilliant, breathtaking relationship ever, and it went rubbish.That's pretty much it.No, it was devastating.It was more intense than my first relationship, because
It's my first, like, uber, super grown-up relationship, but we just fell out of love.There wasn't anything to blame it on.I found that more devastating than being like, yeah, well, you fucked another girl.You know, I found it more upsetting.
So it was just, it completely consumed me, the breakup.
Yeah, and isn't it interesting how that can happen?How you can have something so intense and just fade away like that?
Yeah, and the things that brought you together actually tear you apart.It's horrible.
Right, right.Well, it's made for great art.So, as it usually does, it seems like.
Besides the originals on here, you've chosen to cover a few as well.And I think one of the biggest newsmakers is You Pulled Out the Cure.
What was the idea behind that one?
Well, originally my cover, I wanted to do a cover because I was so overwhelmed and pleased with the sort of reception that Make You Feel My Love on the first album got, that I wanted to try and do it again.
And I also love the challenge of doing a cover, because I think you've either got to make it better than the original, or make a completely new song out of it.Like, you know, change it production-wise.
And originally, it was Never Tear Us Apart by NXS.It's one of my favorite songs.And Michael Hutcherson's got one of my favorite voices ever.And I just thought I was totally in love with the song for, like, 11 years.
And then in recording it, it turned out I'm nowhere near as in love with the song as I thought I was, and I did not believe a single word I was singing when I was singing it.
When we're in excess of doing it, it's like, you know, I'm on my knees crying, going like, oh my God, they're totally in my head right now.
But that didn't work, and then it was Rick Rubin's idea to do Love Song by The Cure, and it was just very, very relevant at that moment in time, because I was really missing home, and the lyrics and that just went straight through me.
And we'll be right back, right after this.
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Welcome back, it's Kyle Meredith with Adele.The single, the first single, Rolling in the Deep, it's a monster.
Yeah, it's a great thing.
I mean, I think there was a lot of people out there who, you know, was hoping for something huge and very big expectations for this, but for the size of what Rolling in the Deep sounds like, I mean, did you know, you know, how, you know, I mean, did you know you had a hit on your hand when this was done?
now i i i i thought i could be a complete opposite and i thought it would be a bit more of a tastemaker thing and i thought it would be like a viral internet blog thing and then it's completely surpassed my expectation even here i only arrived back in america yesterday and then i've been hearing things about all the radio and stuff like that here and it's incredible and it's like number one all over europe and it really was it was really important to me that i that i made it the lead track just because it was like you know i just
this record is very different to the first album and i think that's you know completely like personified with Rolling in the Deep and it was just it was just i don't know why it gave my gut feeling that that was the first song that i was kind of put out there and the response to it truly took my breath away and it has gone viral though i mean you made this uh... amazing video beautiful video
it what what what do you think about that uh... that black-and-white one of the video video actually on top of the video video without a lot i like a right and i'm going to be my friend or into the black-and-white one of the end of the page and that well uh... the official video provided the and i think that i could campground he did
Jay-Z's On To The Next One video.When I saw that video, I thought I was on acid.I was watching it and I was like, oh my god, who did this video?I've got to meet them.
And then I thought it was going to be like some sort of hip-hop big shot, you know, it would be like Who's Adele.Turns out, it's this Jewish guy who lives like two minutes away from my house in London with four kids. It was perfect!
We met up as soon as I got home.He just loved the song and the way he described how the song made him feel was exactly how I felt when I wrote the song.It was just immediate.It was like we got to do the video together.
The moodiness of it was obviously always inevitable.That was always going to be in it.I was telling him things that sort of happened and stuff like that and he took them into his imagination and turned it into what it became.
Yeah, well, it's a beautiful video and as is the black and white video.I mean, it's been embraced both of them Did you it also has a great remix?Rolling in the deep.Did you present that to Jamie from the xx or did he run with that himself?
Well with the same label, so it was just sort of happened He had my he had my money music before it was out, you know on the same label and stuff like that and then I'm their biggest fan and their fans of me and it just sort of happened and
It took me a while to get into it because it wasn't what I was expecting at all.But oh my god, I love it now.I've got my own dance routine to it.
Do you like to hear your songs like that?
Yeah, I'm always quite fascinated by remixes.Yeah, whatever style or whatever they end up being.Yeah, no, I do.
You seriously have made just this perfect record, and congratulations on every bit of the success.I've got a feeling it's going to be a very big year for you again.Oh, thank you.And hopefully we'll see you back on that Grammy stage before too long.
Cool!Alright, well thank you so much, and have yourself a great day.
And we'll be right back, right after this. And my thanks to Adele, and thanks to you for checking out the episode.Hit that subscribe button before you get out of here so you can get all the interviews that we send your way every single week.
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