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Hey curious people, I'm Jonathan Van Ness, and welcome back to another episode of Pretty Curious.I hope your Monday's gorgeous, and if you're not listening to this on Monday, I hope your day's gorgeous too.
Okay, now I want to be fully honest, this is a very safe space.Today we're getting into all things dentistry, but if you didn't know, dental issues like gum disease, tooth decay, gingivitis, and teeth grinding are actually on the rise as of late.
And many of us know that suffering from dental issues can be more than uncomfortable. they can be painful and downright embarrassing.
So what if you have a wedding or a prom or a photo shoot coming up and you're just mortified about the state of your mouth?How are we supposed to actually improve our smile without harming our teeth?
To talk all things dental health, all things smiles, we're gonna welcome to the show a very special guest to the podcast, Dr. Stephanie Damanian from renowned dental office, Park Lex 60, to talk all things dental health and tips for achieving a smile you can be proud of.
But first, it's time to get ready with me. How fucking major was Frances Hannan's episode of Pretty Curious?
I went to Burt Dwarves this weekend and I fucked up my checking account on La Mer so fucking bad because I wanted to get the gel cleanser that she was talking about because I got the foam cleanser.
And the foam cleanser, I gotta be honest, it's really strong and it was kind of stripping me.So I got the gel cleanser.Frances was right.That gel cleanser by La Mer, she's pricey, but it is. unparalleled, unmatched, so beautiful.
It is like a foaming gel cleanser, but it's just like more gentle than the foaming cleanser of La Mer.Um, but it, and when I got home, they have this, like, they have this serum that's like an a hundred milliliter jar.I really like it.
It's this, um, just as like all over face serum.And they have this once a year jar.And I was like, Oh, how much can that be?I didn't even look at the price.I got home.This fucking jar was a thousand dollars.
I really wanted to take it back, but all sales are final.So I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to check on that next time.
So if you're, if you're going to buy La Mer, check the fucking prices cause it's way more expensive than what you would think.And I just have to, so I'm going to, I'm going to let you guys know later if I think it was really worth it.
Cause I do think that this serum should last me like five months.
um so if you take like a thousand divided by five like two hundred dollars a month for serum it's outrageous it's way too expensive i but i'll let you know if it like magically heals my fine lines because i do think that the creme de la mer does you know i'm talking about a lot but this is what i was thinking about for some of these getting ready with me let's do luxury swaps so it's like if you want shu uemura but you don't have 110 bucks for your shampoo and conditioner like buy this instead so we're going to do that with gel cleansers today so if you are not in the mood to spend
Such a shit ton of money on a gel cleanser even if it's fabulous and smells amazing and is like really gorgeous and efficacious I got a new one.It's the cleanser by prequel it retails for $18.
It is the talk of the town people are I think Patagonia talked about it The girls are talking about it.So it's Glenzer by Prequel.So look up Prequel.$18 for a gel cleanser.It's a great price.And I just love gel cleansers for makeup removal.
And it's especially as we get into fall and winter, my face gets drier.So I love a gel cleanser, especially for drier times of year. Patrick Ta's tall, gorgeous ass has got a chokehold on me with these blushes right now.
All I want to do is contour and blush the fuck out of my face.I was talking about it on AskJVN earlier, but I just didn't know that I was going to get blush blindness at 37.I've never really liked blush.
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I'm back in New York and I have like my big, like, like necessary, uh, stash here.It's so good, but I actually don't want to do something uncustomary.
Chris, I want to ask you guys what is, and we will have to ask this on social cause I want to get more responses, but I want to ask here too, just to put it in your ear. I'm looking for a body SPF that is not a like, isn't like a poolside SPF.
I don't want one that's like banana boat or like that tick tock one that we were talking about earlier last year.I want like I've been using summer Fridays SPF on my arms, but that,
is expensive and I want to, I want like a affordable body SPF that's not giving pool, preferably like kind of unscented or like a light scent.Um, so that's my question to you guys.
I will do, I'm thinking something like a, like an SPF and like a Juergens or something or there's like a cure-all with like an SPF 15.That's what I want to try.Um, okay, let's get to our conversation with Dr. Stephanie Damanian. This is her bio.
In early 2019, Dr. Demanian became a partner at Park Lex 60, which boasts an all-female office.Cool!
She took over the practice shortly thereafter and built a loyal following by focusing on aesthetics and function to ensure that her patients can maintain a healthy and harmonious smile, all the while conserving as much of their original teeth.
Dr. Dumanian specializes in providing lifelike veneers to her patients using SMILE design principles and utilizing the latest advancements in photography and digital technology.
She subsequently works with a select group of master ceramicists, true craftsmen, to deliver aesthetic perfection. Dr. Dumanian, welcome to the show.It's so great to be here with you.Now, just before we started recording, it's great.
Just before we started recording, you did say, just to clarify, I can call you Dr. D. Yes, please.
All my patients call me Dr. D. Okay, we love Dr. D. I mean, the full name is Dumanian.I'm a proud Armenian woman.
For brevity's sake, we call me Dr. D.
Um, well, I love you, and thank you so much for coming today.We're so excited to learn all about two things.So, we really haven't covered much dental on Pretty Curious.
So, normally, we do this, like, rapid fire at the end of our episode, but I have just, like, a few little dental myths that I want to, like, rapid fire ask you at the top.Are you ready?
Okay.Does that mean I have to answer very quickly?
It doesn't have to be insanely fast, but, like, just a little bit.Are you ready?
So obviously we're giving Halloween season right now.Does sugar slash candy actually cause cavities?
Yes, but in the right environment.So I guess that's not rapid fire anymore.But basically, you know, for for bacteria that cause cavities to to cause tooth decay, they have to eat away at your tooth.And so they need two things to feed them.
It's sugar and an acidic environment.And so if they're not in an environment where they can eat, they're not going to cause cavities.But under those circumstances, they will.
So I always say, if you're going to have your candy, have it in one shot, have a little water rinse and move on.But don't snack on it over multiple hours because you're not giving your saliva a chance to fight those cavities.
Okay, that makes sense.Okay, I think.So, uh, I think I know the answer to this, though.You should not floss your teeth if your gums are bleeding.
I want to know what you think.
I would say that you do need to floss your teeth even if the gums are bleeding because you just have gingivitis and they'll stop bleeding once your gums aren't, like, all brand new to flossing.
I'm really happy that you said that because I can't tell you how many patients come into my office that go, my gums were bleeding so I stopped flossing and then they got worse so I stopped brushing and then I just stopped doing everything.
So I, I, okay, I'm going to keep with these rapid fires and then I'll tell you.Okay.Mouthwashing with alcohol will ruin the microbiome of the mouth like a Listerine alcohol.
It's not that high ABV that it's gonna cause any, like, huge lingering side effects, but it's a natural antiseptic, and that's why it works.
So, we're into, like, a Listerine or, like, a mouth rinse like this.
Yeah, and there's so many natural ones out there, too, if you wanna go alcohol-free.So, there's lots of different options, but the alcohol is a natural antiseptic.
If someone's listening to this and, like, they haven't been to a dentist in X, you need to make an appointment today.
I mean, a year, I would say once a year at least.
So if it's been a year since you've been to a dentist, yeah, you gotta go.We gotta get we gotta get in there.
But hold on a moment.I mean, let's talk about our other routines.Like how often do you go like, you know, get your hair done, get your nails done, that kind of thing.Like dental cleaning is not that expensive.
So like, don't let you know, not having health insurance or dental insurance affect that decision.Because, you know, we choose to spend on other things.And this is our health. So I think once a year is a reasonable amount of time to expect.
And at that visit, you know, your doctor will tell you if you need a more bespoke treatment plan or if once a year is fine.
I certainly have patients in my office that are so meticulous with their oral health, they could totally get away with once a year.
What's like your favorite?Are you a Zoom queen?Are we a Crest Whitestrips queen?Are we like get your teeth molded with like the thing and then put the bleach in there?Like do you like teeth whitening at all?
It's truthfully going to work, but it's only going to work to a certain point.So if your enamel is worn down, a whitening isn't going to get you as white as you may have been getting before, which is probably what you're seeing.
With time, we start to wear our enamel down, even just from eating and drinking, but also from normal tooth brushing and acidic things like that. In terms of the whitening treatments out there, I would say they're all pretty comparable.
It's just a question of how quickly do you want to whiten.
In-office whitening is going to get you the quickest results and we do use Zoom in our office and a lot of times we'll include a take-home kit so that you can whiten at home to kind of boost your results.
But the truth of the matter is crest white strips work too.People complain about sensitivity and they're not as customizable.So there are certain parts of your tooth that maybe might not be covered by the strips so you're not going to get as white.
But if we're dealing with repeated whitening that's not working, that's when we're kind of getting into the veneer conversation.
And so if your teeth aren't responding to whitening, it's probably because there's a bigger issue going on and your enamel is pretty thin.We should probably cover that up and protect it so we don't get into the inner layers of the tooth.
Interest.So, I mean, to be fair, I haven't, like, really legit tried to, like, bleach my teeth since I was, like, 30.I'm not, like, into, like, repetitive ones, but I kind of am Zoom curious.Does it hurt really bad?
No.People get some sensitivity, and it's normal to have some sensitivity.And there are things that we can do in office to combat that.Certainly Advil helps.Fluoride varnish afterwards helps.Generally, you'll feel sensitivity for a few hours.
So, it's nothing major.And honestly, just looking at you, I know you'd get great results.So, I think you'd be pretty happy with it.
What's the deal with fluoride?I feel like when I was growing up, we were like doing the fluoride chews, we were like living for the fluoride, like the toothpaste is infused with fluoride.
Now I feel like everyone's finally seen an article where it's like, fluoride wasn't as fierce as we thought it was.Is that true?Or are we still pro-fluoride?
I mean, as a dental professional, I love fluoride.I can tell you when I see my patients go off fluoride, I see it in their x-rays.I see cavities popping up.It's really scary to me.
And so, you know, I think it works excellently, and it's great to start from a young age, but we're even applying fluoride varnish in our office after cleanings in adults.
It's the only thing we know out there that improves the micro-hardness of enamel, and it's really going to help to reverse the day-to-day acidic assault that your teeth are going to get.
So, okay, so we brought up the acidic alkaline thing a few times.I have a, one of my old dental hygienists gave me this like alkalinizing rinse to do, which I do feel like really took swelling out of my gums and it was like, it's really nice.
Like I get it.Um, do some people just have like more acidic mouths than others or is it that like food also makes it more acidic?
Both.We're dealing with both.So acid can affect your teeth in two ways, right?So one is on the way in and one is on the way out.A lot of people have heartburn, right?GERD, heartburn, reflux, acid reflux.
And so that acid is coming up in your mouth and it's affecting your teeth.And on the other hand, the foods that we eat can be very acidic.Lemons, you know, some of like wines, for example.
What about like red meat?Or like is any sort of meat like more acidic to the mouth?
it's particularly acidic, but after we do eat, our saliva becomes acidic until it's buffered out.
Oh, what does buffered out mean?
So our saliva naturally has molecules in it that will basically now alkalinize your saliva.
So after we eat, what's the best way to alkalinize our mouth?
They say that dairy can be helpful, but I'm not gonna have a glass of milk after my wine.Nuts can also be helpful, but, you know, you're gonna do what you're gonna do.
I would say the most important thing is, you know, to make sure you're drinking enough water and hydrating, and don't go ahead and brush your teeth immediately after a meal.
If you had to pick either a floss, like an infinite amount of floss, or infinite amount of toothbrush and toothpaste on your desert island, which one are you taking?
Toothbrush and toothpaste.
My old dentist told me floss, and that's why, like, I floss so much.
Oh, my goodness.I mean, how many times have you flossed and you can't get the schmutz off the front of your teeth?
I only care about the decaying flesh between my teeth as much.Like, I'm scared of, like, decaying meat.
But it kind of compounds.Like, when it's on there, it gets pushed down.It gets pushed down more, pushed down more.
So really, hopefully in our desert island, you could just do both.
Yeah, we just need to do both.
Or you could just get creative and try to find a floss alternative, right?
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What about dental fear?Do you notice like people having dental anxiety or dental fear when they come in?
Of course.People are afraid of everything.I mean, it's legitimate to have a dental fear.And usually it really, it stems from a negative experience or some childhood trauma, generally speaking.
Yeah, I just, you know, the part that I hate on my checkup is like when you're getting like, when they check for pockets and they're like two, three, two, I just, I'm holding my breath.I'm like so scared.
Like, cause like, and then when I learned what that meant, I was like, and now every time they do my pockets, I'm just like literally waited on baiting breath.Like I'm just like so nervous.
It's great that you're aware of that, because I can't tell you, I've met people over the years who it doesn't bother them.
How big does your pocket have to be before your tooth falls out?
That's like a hard question.You know, it depends on the circumstances and where that pocket is and where the bone loss is.
And sometimes you can have pocketing just because your gums are really inflamed, but the bone underneath it hasn't gone down, right?So like we're dealing with different...
different ways to measure this pocket, different reasons why this pocket could exist.But I generally say, when you come to my office and we're reading out pocket numbers, a one to three is kind of like a green light.A four is kind of a yellow light.
And anything five or above is a red light for me.
But I'm always in one to threes now because I'm just like a flossing ass bitch.
So you're in a stable place, which is great.And that's what we're looking for.We want stability in the mouth.We don't want to see bleeding because that tells us that there's a bigger issue going on and it can affect our systemic health.
My husband has Invisalign.Good, right?
Congrats, that's awesome.It works really well and we're using it a lot in patients not just for aesthetics but to prevent gum disease because straighter teeth collect less schmutz and less harmful bacteria can hide in those nooks and crannies.
You know, there are certain bacteria that like an anaerobic condition, that means like with less oxygen, so imagine the teeth are less crowded, less oxygen is getting in there, less saliva is getting in there and so that could affect your gums.
Oh, that makes so much sense.What about, um, cosmetic dentistry, like, as far as an Invisalign or braces and age?Like, is there a too old or a too young?
Um, I, you know, I don't really treat kids, so I can't talk to too young.
Oh, because you need your adult teeth, don't you?You can't be doing braces on, like, baby teeth.
But I think they do a lot of interceptive orthodontics.
They do?Mm-hmm.What's that mean?
So, like, with the baby teeth, they'll try to, like, get some expansion if you have some of your adult teeth in, so that when the next adult teeth come in, there's enough room for it.
So, if they're noticing that it's gonna be crowded, they take care of that ahead of time.
But I've had a few patients in their 80s do Invisalign.I mean...
Absolutely not.We're living longer.Why not?You should be happy with your smile.I always say, what story does your smile tell about you?Or what story do you want your smile to tell about you?
Because there are a lot of people that are unhappy with the way their smile feels or looks.
Oh. Breath.So, I drink so much coffee, and I talk so much, and I feel like sometimes my breath just gets, like, nasty.And we all have those moments where we're like, oh my God, is my breath not as cute as it could be?
How can we keep our breath better for longer?
Well, making sure that your oral health is up to date is super important because a lot of times bacteria that cause gingivitis and periodontitis are what also cause bad breath.
And then also making sure that you're up to date with your medical doctor as well, with your primary care physician, because if you're having issues with acid reflux, you're going to get bad breath from that too, so it could be a sign of GI issues in fact.
And then, of course, we know that certain foods just make you stinky.I mean, garlic's a classic one.And so, you know, having some fresh mints around, having a mouth rinse is always helpful.
Yeah.Is there any gum that you don't like people chewing?
Oh, so sugar-free better?Yeah.
And a lot of sugar-free gums have an additive called xylitol.It's a sugar alternative and actually helps to prevent cavities.
Oh, that's interesting.Um, what's the difference between halitosis and bad breath?
They're basically synonymous.I'd say halitosis is the fancy version of bad breath.A fancy name for it.
Oh, so just like, it's not like, it's not like halitosis is like really fucking bad breath.
No, but that would be cool, right?It sounds like it.
It doesn't.I thought it was like, like, do you ever have to like diagnose someone with halitosis? I mean... You're like, bitch, you got halitosis.
I guess I've never really told people.They usually will present and say, I have really bad breath.
Okay, all right.And I'll be like, oh, it's because of X, Y, and Z. So I did see this lady on TikTok and she said that, like, she said that there's this, like, first gum that could actually improve dental health.
Is that one of the gums that must have that, like, xylitol in it?
I wonder what that was.Interest.I'm just going to say that that's what that was.
Generally speaking, you know, gum, twofold with gum.One, it's great.It promotes salivary flow.And so we want more salivary flow because it helps protect your teeth and your gums.
But from the other perspective, we know that a lot of people have TMJ issues.And unfortunately, chewing gum can really aggravate that.
What is TMJ, for fuck's sake?
I'm like, do you want the easy version or the hard version?
Okay.So technically, it should be called a TMJ disorder.Because TMJ is basically the joint by your jaw.And so it's equivalent of saying like, I have knee. So it's just the name of the joint.
So does TMJ stand for anything?Well, so when people... Is it mastodon or something?No, that was an old... Your meta... No.
Masseter is what you're thinking.
So TMJ stands for Temporomandibular Joint.And it's the actual joint name.And so... Temporomandibular.This is a good trivia question.You're going to have to spell it out.Like supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, right?
Let's do it one more time.
Temporal.I'm writing it down.
Joint.Temporomandibular joint.
But people call it TMJ, but really what they have is a temporomandibular joint disorder.
Disorder.So, like, is there, like, 12 disorders or, like, just two or something?
There are a bunch of disorders, but they fall under an umbrella.And the main thing to consider is, are you having a muscular issue?Because it's a TMJ complex.It's a complex of things that are connected.
Are you having a muscular issue or are you having an actual joint issue?
So it could either be with your muscle around your jaw or the actual joint itself.
Yeah.And for 80 to 90% of people, it's just the muscle.So a simple night guard can really help with that issue.Is it grinding?It's grinding for some people.It's clenching for others.It can be both.
And a lot of times it can have to do with your bite, right?So like not to get too in the weeds.
No, I want to get in the weeds.We love that.
But like I often tell people like, you know, there are some people who have a lot of discomfort in their jaw.And so it brings up the question about their bite.And so many people have two different bites.And as humans, we're super adaptive, right?
But when we're not, we start to get pain.So where we want to close is our jaw bite. but sometimes the teeth get in the way and now we have a tooth bite and that tooth bite and that jaw bite are not in the same place.So, what has to happen?
Our muscles take over and try to adapt us into a more comfortable position, but now these muscles are getting tired because they're overworked and they're fatigued and that's when we're getting a lot of TMJ issues and then not to mention that now the teeth are getting worn down and the bite's collapsing
And so you see people with chipped and worn down teeth and they're getting a lot of these issues.So a lot of times in my office, we do veneers a bunch of times to really correct the bites.
So we're restoring the bite to a comfortable place where the muscles can turn off and they're not going to continue to grind nearly as much.
When I was little, my mom like took me to the dentist to get a mouth guard because I was like grinding my teeth in my sleep and she said you could just like hear it just as like grinding and like chomping in my sleep.
And then I went through a small phase where I tried to sleep with this mouth guard, but it would just like, it would keep me awake.I would like, it would, I just, it would wake up, you know, across the bedroom for me.
Like I don't, I just never gonna keep it in my mouth.And so I don't know if I've grown out of it.Cause like my teeth don't like, they're not worn down.Like I don't have like, and I don't, I don't think I have TMJ.
Like it doesn't like hurt or anything.Um, but is that a thing where like you could have that and then it could go away or it's just like in moments of stress or something like a TMJ?
So it's generally, for a lot of people, a chronic condition.And then they may have an acute episode that brings them in.A lot of people don't realize they're grinding or clenching.
And so the way we can tell is by looking at the patterns of their teeth.I always like to say, do you see wear in certain areas?And when you go into a certain position, you'll see them line up like a puzzle piece.
And so your dentist can help you, sort of guide you through seeing that and visualizing it. And so, you know, not everybody grinds, but it's New York City.Most people are doing some form of clenching and grinding.
And I will tell you that generally speaking, the way we've adapted, women generally have more pain.Men generally have more wear.Men will break their teeth before they feel anything is wrong.
And women will have these pristine, perfect teeth that show no signs of wear.But they're like, my jaw is killing me.
What about bridges and caps?Are those still something that people do and are happening?
Yeah, I mean, you need what you need.
So what's a bridge and what's a cap?
So a cap is an individual tooth.It's only one tooth.It's like a veneer only affects one tooth.But generally speaking, a cap goes all around the tooth.
And that's a treatment to like just like a really fucking bad cavity, like your whole tooth like was a cavity and you just had to like shave it all down and like put this cap on so you don't have like a little ass tooth?
Well, we want to prevent you from losing a tooth.That's the goal here, right?So if we don't have enough tooth structure there, we got to do something to cover it and prevent it from breaking.
I kind of equate it to like the ring around the wine barrel. Right?So like the wine barrel isn't actually that strong, but the ring is there that if this wine barrel got knocked over, it would minimize the risk that it would split and like break.
And so a lot of times we're doing crowns on teeth that have had a lot of decay, but also teeth that are very badly cracked.You know, I mentioned before, a lot of people do grinding and clenching and we'll see cracks in the tooth.
And if I see that crack is really deep, I know it's just a matter of time before that tooth breaks.And so if that tooth breaks spontaneously, we might be able to do a cap at that time,
It might need a root canal or it might need to come out and then you get an implant.So sometimes we have to be a little bit more aggressive to prevent a worse outcome.And oftentimes that's a situation with CAPS.
So a bridge is when you're missing a tooth.And so it's two teeth that then connect a fake tooth in the middle.
Uh-huh.So it's three teeth that are connected together.
And do you see, like, a silver something keeping it together?
No, I mean, they can be made of different materials.I mean, if you're going to a cosmetic practice, you're just gonna see porcelain.It should match really nicely with the rest of the teeth.
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Is there a difference between, like, East Coast smiles and West Coast smiles?Or have you noticed, like, an aesthetic difference between, like, a European smile or, like, a Canadian smile?
Like, is there different things that are, like, in vogue in different places when it comes to smiles?
There's definitely trends and there are things that are just, like, culturally acceptable in different places.Like, I think when you look across Europe, we're generally not seeing people that are as concerned with tooth crowding and missing teeth.
I mean... it's not top of mind for them for whatever reason.I think it's probably a cultural thing and partially maybe financial.It's probably something that people don't necessarily save towards.
They've got universal health care and so a lot of that probably isn't going to cover the more sophisticated procedures.Those are going to be out of pocket.
So a lot of times people figure if it's not covered then it's not necessary and that's not necessarily the case but it is what it is. And then I generally find, you know, there are certain cities where bigger, brighter, whiter is better.
I mean, yeah, L.A.Nashville has a huge scene.I mean, those teeth are as white as can be.Texas, big white teeth.And there's nothing wrong with that.
And New York's a little more natch?
Generally speaking, people want a more natural look.And so I have people who come from all over the country because they like my aesthetics.And there's no right or wrong.You know, when we're talking about aesthetics, it's about what works for you.
cute okay what about oh also to talk my algorithm i do see a lot of people's caps just like falling off is that just because like It's like, it's a good treatment, but it's not like a cure or wonder drug.
Like if you bite into the fucking taffy or you like hit your mouth and really hard and got the cap on there, like, is that just all that was?Or was it like shoddy work or a mix of the two?
It's probably a mix of the two.You know, I think everyone right now has commoditized dentistry.People are going all over the world to do their veneers, to do their caps.
Yes, we're going to Turkey to do the caps.Honey, I'm seeing that on my TikTok too.
I'm seeing that too.Turkey teeth.And those are the ones you see that are all cut down.
So like, if you're going to take a tooth and you're going to cut it down this much,
Those little spikies, those little like triangles, shorty spikes.
There isn't a lot of retention there.So like that restoration is going to debond.It's more likely to come off.But then at the same time, I always tell people, listen, dentistry is not indestructible.
You know, it's not going to be any stronger than what God gave us.And if you broke your own tooth, you could break this one year or two.So, you know, common culprits are a fork biting into a fork.
falling, finding something hard in your food, it can absolutely break your restoration.But, you know, it's better to break a restoration than it is to break your own tooth.
I mean, honey, your lips to God's ears, I get it.Okay, rapid fire.Are you ready?
Oh my God, ready or not.Should I buckle my seatbelt?
It's more, it's more, it's even more rapid fire.
What is your budget beauty recommendation under $10?
It could be a product, a thing.
I'm such a sucker for Aquaphor lip balm.
I'm telling you.And then I take like sometimes I like layer it on top of like a lip liner that I have just like create like a nude lip kind of situation.Or if I have a matte lip already, I'll like add on top for a little shine.I love it.
Aquaphor, it's major.Splurge recommendation.Could be anything.Bag, beauty, shoe, anything.Treatment.
Oh God, I love a good massage at a really nice spa.If you haven't been, oh my God, my two favorites downtown, the Four Seasons downtown is amazing.And that Hotel Phuket, have you been yet?
No, I'm ready.What about where do you like it?Where do you like the best facial?I bet the Four Seasons does a good facial.
They do a really good facial.
I also really like Hydrafacial.
I also really like Rescue Spa.
I'm very into biologic recharge.And they do a lot of those biologic recharge.
They do?And oh, what's that called?Rescue spa?Yeah.Chris, we got to make an appointment there.We're going to do that.I'm pretty curious.
It's literally right here.
Oh, you got to make it because I got it.I got to do like a face.I need a facial.We got to do like a beauty experience.OK.Because I'm going to tell everybody about it.OK.A product you never leave home without.
I never leave home without wearing my foundation.
Oh, your foundation looks pretty.Your face is fucking slayed.
That's because of my foundation.
What is your favorite vintage beauty memory? Actor, actress, like mom, grandma, somebody.
I feel like I'm channeling like, you know, Audrey Hepburn, Breakfast at Tiffany's.That's so classic.
So classic.I love that clip.Okay, now this one's really fucking rapid fire favorites.I'm going to say a thing and then I need your favorite of that thing.
Just one.That's a problem.
Like the best one?Spit it out.
I love Aquafresh Extreme Clean.
Budget floss. Um, or I'll be glide a manual toothbrush, like an audit, like the, the, what do you call electric is way better, right?
Let me break it down a little bit.If you brush your teeth in the most ideal way, which is 30 seconds per area, two minutes total in a circular motion with the bristles aimed towards your gum line, it works the same as an electric toothbrush.
But the truth of the matter is that nobody's doing it right.And electric toothbrushes takes the guesswork out of it.
I love my electric toothbrush so much easier.
Now my grandpa always told me about flossing.You were trying to get this like decaying flesh.Like if you eat meat, like you gotta get, you're trying to get the debris out from between your fucking teeth.But he always said like thick, unwaxed floss.
He was like, I want thick.I want bigs.I want to get everything out of there.I don't want glidey.I want like, and so that I kind of do like that classic, like
thick like the reach like yeah like the red it's like in the it's like white with like red writing and it's like reach yeah it's like thicker is that is like a gliding tape okay like what
I like a gliding floss, but I'm also really wrapping around the tooth.And then the other thing you can do if you have wider spaces between your teeth.If your wider spaces between your teeth floss isn't going to do much.
It's kind of going to float in there.So either say either tie a knot in your floss and pull it through so you can get more schmutz out or use a little proxy brush.
If you have bigger spaces, you're going to need something a little bit thicker to get in there.
Okay, and what about the like flossing sticks?
I mean, I think they're easier to use than traditional floss.
They make me gag.They literally make me like almost gag.
Like my fingers, I'm so much better with it.And I also, my thing with the floss sticks, I don't like all the plastic waste.
Yeah, the traditional floss is better.But if you're not going to do traditional floss and you're not going to do a water pick, the floss picks are a good alternative.
Okay, it's better than just have to be careful.
Because if you don't know what you're doing, you can like give yourself almost like paper cuts.And a lot of people just go through when they floss.They hear the snap and they're done.
You're not looking to get through the contact you want to get to the gum line.You got to go deep.
Yes, I'm deep.And I go like on each side of the triangle.
A lot of people just hear the snap and they're done.No, yeah, nothing.
Because I mean the first years of my flossing from like 19 to 20 something, I only did it in the mirror.Like so I could really see, but I just feel like I've done it for so long that I can't.
Yeah, you're like a pro, you can do it with your eyes closed.
Yeah.Okay, so now we're going back to rapid fire.Perfume.
I like Ex Nilo, Fleur Narcotic.
A lot of the Biologic Recharge.
Um, I happen to be a really big fan if you follow me on Instagram.I wear a lot of the Lili Sidogi headbands.
Okay, Lili Sidogi is really good.
Dental splurge.I probably need a great electric toothbrush to fill up Sonicare.
Oh God, you're killing me.I mean like every handbag now.
Favorite handbag?I need it.
Yes.Is it a Birkin?Is it a Kelly?Is it a fucking Fendi baguette?Oh my god.
It's so classic.You can't go wrong.Hairspray?
And who did that foundation?
Yeah, because it's gorgeous.
Oh, Armani.Luminous silk.I'm obsessed.
The girls are talking about it.They've been talking about it.Highlighter.
You know, I'm a little too old for that, I feel like.I don't have time for that.
OK, I agree.Not that you're too old, but I also don't have time for highlighter.But I did not mean to say that I agree with you being too old because you're not too old.But I agree.It's like I got we got blush.We got our bronzer.
We don't need this highlighter.
Blush, bronzer, this highlighting.I can't.I can't.
Although I do want to put some on my nose because Ariana Grande does on Wicked.OK. And now I want to.
My sister tried to teach me how to do it and it was just too complicated for me.
Do you do a setting spray?
Sometimes I use the Urban Decay.
I think it's good.I like it.I'm not sure if it works, but you know, people tell me I should use it.I'm one of those suckers.I go into Sephora and I go like, what's happening?
I feel like it does work.
Let's see how much I try.
I feel like it really does work because when I don't wear setting spray, my face looks totally different at the end of the day.And when I do wear it, my, especially like my eyes and my like, yeah, just my whole face looks way more similar.
You know, it's really hard because behind the face mask, I'm wearing a face mask all the time.Oh, yes.I haven't found anything that can really hold through that.
So where are you the most on social?Are you the most TT?Are you the most Instagram?Do you do both?Where can people follow along with you?Where is the practice and where can we what's next for Dr. D?
Okay, amazing.Well, you can follow us at ParkLex60Dental on Instagram.That's probably where we're most prevalent.And we're conveniently located on 60th between Park and Lex, just down the block from Bloomingdale's.So it's a pretty easy location.
Queen!Upper East Side Queen!
Although I live right here, so.
That's perfect.I used to live right here too.Dr. D, thank you so much for coming on Pretty Curious.
Can't wait to see you in the office.
And around the streets of New York, love you.
Yes, I can't wait, neighbor.I love you, honey.Things are coming on.
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