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We got a germany game going on right now live So i'm sure there'll be some updates throughout but hoopster bring you in first man rocking that lion's gear We got the the big boy bet between you and title now for my ravens versus your lions.
Somehow i'm not even involved This is perfect.What's going on, man?
They can just sit on the sidelines and enjoy the entertainment.I mean, I'm feeling pretty good about it.And the one thing, the NFC is definitely a little weaker than the AFC.So I think I feel pretty good about my side.
But once you get to the playoffs, anything can happen, as you guys both know.Good solid slate today.I mean, we got, what, 10 games, so kind of on the smaller side.I mean, this is I'm
Stands out and I try to point out a couple points, you know, when I'm going through and build my teams is like the running backs are solid, but the prices are starting to creep up a little bit now and we don't have like super cheap running back place.
So like the Camara that looks good, like a safe on Barclay. Looks good.Breeze Hall looks good, but the prices are starting to get up there.Now we have Christian McCaffrey back as well.
So the running backs look nice, but the prices are up a little bit on those guys.Wide receiver, ton of plays, a lot of good tight end plays as well, too, that we'll get to.
And I think a couple got a little bit, or could get a little bit better if the news breaks in the right direction.Amari Cooper's the one piece. that I guess we're kind of waiting on, but seems likely for him to miss today.
But we haven't got any updates on that.So if he somehow in, that would definitely change the dynamic of that game.I hope he's out because I like where I'm at in that game.So, yeah, we'll see.
But excited, as always, to dive in and break down the slate with you guys.
Yeah.Running back plays that are nice, but interesting price.That'll make you think twice.We'll have to go through it when we get to the slate, we'll check it all out.
But Hoopster, congrats on the MMA shipper and congrats to all the members out there with the MMA shippers.A guy Hebrew was back into the mix.We had a big boy college football score last night.We had a NBA showdown shipper from our guy butter.
Like there was a lot of good stuff going on before I bring title.And we got Nate, Sean, tweezy, our boy.Hope your sister's all good, man.I saw that note there earlier.Always in here supporting and we appreciate you, man. just everybody else.
Lots of good people in the chat.Instead of bringing them all up, I think I'll bring title in.We got 10 games title to talk about, but how are you doing, my friend?Another Sunday morning, free money Sunday, baby.Let's go.
Free money Sunday, my man.Week 10, it's so crazy.But yeah, first, shout out Hoop, my man Rio.Shout out Dartsman.He was a part of the chop.Crackdrafter got the nuts.Sam, a lot of people in the Discord.M.A.Wags, shout out you four or five
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He absolutely loves the sport.Another one of my buddies just got into college.He hates MMA.He always gets tilted. by the results, can't win.He jumped to college.So shout out the college team.Absolutely crushed there.
But yeah, 10 games, which isn't the most by any means, but I mean, it's as spread out as it really gets.I think we look at our projections, go to quarterback, no one ownership above 12% today.What does that mean?
Anyone you like, any stack you like, I think you can play it.You can definitely find ways to get different, but yeah, ready to talk some football.
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We already had the showdown stuff up for this Germany game, college crushing title.Just mentioned MMA, just all over it last night.Ship it nation domination.I coined that one. NASCAR is rounding out, I believe, for the season.
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You guys know how this works. Got to get to 400 likes to keep it up, but we'll start it for the first game here.We've got the Patriots at the Bears title.I'm going to stick with you.I saw you just put one up there.
Maybe the NHL shippers too from our guy, Jake, but brands on the slate top hoop mentioned running backs.I mean, how much of Donny Mitchell do you got to have to make this slate work?Because he's in every single lineup.
I'll talk more about that later as well.Go ahead.
Yeah, that shows the lack of value on this slate.And when that's the case, obviously a lot of people are going to gravitate to more mid-tier builds, especially when you have guys like Josh Downs with no pitman with Flacco there, DeAndre Hopkins.
I mean, this guy could be a top 10 wide receiver the rest of the way, way too cheap on both sides.
Also with most times when we have really bad value, a wide receiver, and it doesn't look like running back's gonna be cheap, that always brings in two tight end builds, which I think is very much in play this week.
Like a Will Disley gets you eight down there for the three Ks.If a Donnie Mitchell bust or something, or there's no value to come through, if that gets you Kamara or Brees or Bijon or Daniels, whatever it may be.So I love it when it's clear that
people will go multiple positions in the flex, which I do think that's the case today.I always look at over-unders, team totals, stuff like that.
I mean, one that stands out in San Fran Bucks, a couple solid ones, a couple pretty bad ones too, but in terms of ownership and just like who people are, like I said, no one over 12% we have projected at quarterback.
That means it's going to be spread out outside a couple of guys that are on the cash report.You know who will get ownership.We have ownership as well, but it's a good slate.I'm excited for it.
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Shout out to our guy, Rob.We will, we'll get some more members when time gets to high school.Yeah.Bring in some more members that way.Hoop, you talked about the running backs earlier, obviously going to get into these 10 games.It's a 7-3 split.
You're probably building a lot of lineups this morning, you know, today, this morning, last night, whenever you put your builds in that you're seeing are early only lineups.So that's going to be fun.
The anti-sweat later today, you'll probably have some lineups do really good off the top and then just have to sweat out the afternoon.But any other overview thoughts, Hoop, before we get to this first one?
The value rests at the wide receiver position and the tight end position.So if you go in and build teams, you're just naturally going to get a lot of two tight end teams, a lot of probably four wide receiver teams, which
It's kind of by necessity, like you kind of have to do it if you want to play Alvin Kamara at a high rate, if you want to play Saquon, if you want to play Brees Hall.I mean, all the good running, you know, Austin Eckler is now in the equation.
He's a little bit cheaper, but besides him, everyone's mid six for the most part and above that you want to play at the position.So naturally going to get wide receiver, four wide receiver builds, you're naturally going to get two tight end builds.
think you just kind of have to roll with it today.So that's definitely another good talking point for this slate.
Yeah.I want to comment on that real quick, actually too.So, um, you know, just right here, Jordan, our guy, new ones brought it up.So running back and pretty common in the flex slate dependent, but still something we see.
And just to note on what you said, I think that's some of what's happening today.It's, it's what you said, even though those prices prices are up, I think people feel very comfortable.
There's so many good running backs when we get to the slate and talk about it, maybe you don't love them at the price, or maybe you still can poke a little bit of a hole in them, but there's so many options that people are struggling to say, okay, I'll play.
taste them in the flex or as a second tight end or Hunter Henry as a second flex, because they feel like they're giving up too much when they do that.
And that's where you see someone like Mitchell just getting plugged in at 3,400 with what they're missing there for the Colts.I don't know title.
Do you have anything else on that you could add to just because I think that's another thing from a roster construction standpoint, I think that's the other reason, right?
People want to still play mostly three running backs here with all these options we've got on hand.
and a And Aaron Jones looked like really strong plays.So there's a handful of really good plays.When people do that, it almost always will lead to a punt receiver or just like a punt QB in a cheaper stack.
Um, but I do think two tight end builds might even be probably more popular than four wide receiver builds for the fact of just how cheap you can get at tight end that they're on the field, the field, a good amount.
But I do think three running backs, like you said, still probably comes in the highest zone.And rightfully so there's a lot of safety and strong running back plays at fair prices this week.
Yeah, we'll have to see how it goes.Like I was running some stuff this morning and I definitely see that still, but it's a little bit, I would say it's a little bit less.
It's probably more with the Sims bros that are going to get that just because, but I still think like you could be leaving another potential 25 plus pointer off because I feel like they're all at running back today, even though you are paying a little bit up for them.
I feel like if you do that, that's the scary part of it, right?Maybe you're getting up somewhere else.Hoop, did you have any other quick thoughts on that?And then if not, you can take us right into Patriots Bears.
No, I think that those were very good talking points, you know, great, uh, start to the show, kind of talking strategy, roster construction.That's kind of how we like to do it.
And then we're going to, you know, kind of dive into the games and yeah, this first one's not very great.I mean, we got the Patriots and the bears 38 total bears favored by like a touchdown here at home.
Uh, you know, very tough to get to a lot of pieces on the Patriots side, but there is some.Value, I guess, you know, we're lacking value. Hunter Henry 3,900 tie down position.I think probably a necessity on the slate.
Like, am I excited to click that name?No, but like, especially if you're building a lot of teams, like we need cheap plays.He's 3,900.Uh, you look at the last three games, nine targets, six targets, eight targets.
and he's converting them into catches, very high conversion rate.So at 3,900, probably a necessity on this slate.You know, these past catchers, I guess you can play a little bit of them.
Douglas Bourne, I think I have a little bit of Bourne, I wanna say, maybe.Let me just pull this up real quick so I can be very specific about this.Bourne, I have like, yeah, like three or 4% Bourne, just to kind of make everything work.
Again, am I excited to play Bourne?No. Definitely more excited to play Henry than board, but they'll both be in my player pool on the bear side.Um, mostly DeAndre Swift.I think he's a great play, uh, especially at home favored by seven.
The workload is, is very solid.Um, you know, the one risk is him getting vultured at the goal line.It's happened a lot this year.Uh, it could be Caleb Williams.
It could be, uh, Roshan Johnson that gets the touchdowns, but you can't really build teams based on that.Like DeAndre Swift. At home, favored by seven.He has 20 plus touch upside, really like him.Bears defense is gonna be very popular today.
It's a missed price on DK at 3K.Just a good natural pairing.Yes, a lot of people are gonna play the Bears D. Not as many people are gonna be on DeAndre Swift.Definitely like that pairing in tournaments.
Again, the Bears defense is gonna be very, very popular, but pairing it with DeAndre, I think makes sense.Not super interested in the Caleb Williams stuff. Keenan Allen at 5,400 on DK kind of stands out.I think he's fine.
I'm probably going to get a little bit of him, but not going to be forcing anything on the passing side.
I just hope this is a ugly, nasty game that the Bears win like 20 to seven and Hunter Henry catches a touchdown for the Patriots and DeAndre Swift gets two touchdowns and maybe a defensive touchdown.And then I think I'll be satisfied with this game.
Yeah, I got a couple quick things then I'll kick it to you title on this one.Just real quick.Um, 150 likes, almost 500 watching.Remember what I said, seven games in the morning.So that's where a lot of the actions coming from.
You're not going to want to wait long if you want to see the stone for that, because there's not as much to talk about in the afternoon.There's only three games there.So I would certainly say hit that.
Like if you're just joining us or filing in late, we appreciate you being here, but it helps us out.We'll keep this up. title.I'll kick it to you.It's kind of what Hoop said.And I've got an Uno reverse coming up on the second game when we get there.
And the guy I pulled out was Caleb Williams.I was liking a little bit of Romo Dunze, Keenan Allen, stuff like that, just as a way to get off the, you know, Bears D and Swift.I did a little bit of a flip here, so I'll kick it to you on this.
One, I took that out because I remembered what I said last week and all these quote unquote air yards were uncatchable from Caleb Williams.
Two, could be a bit, I know there's some weather, could be a bit of a, you know, ground and pound type of game.I do like the swift bear stuff, but the flip that I did was I actually went to Ramondre and Patriots. in a lot.
People don't know, like they haven't been following.He's like a guy that just nobody ever wants to talk about, but keeps crushing it.
And on a slate like this, it's kind of a double, a double flip because it's a hundred bucks less than Swift on the opposite side.And then the Patriots D much cheaper.
They are still a popular cheap D, but I don't think anyone's playing them and pairing them with, or not many, I should say, pairing them with Romandre.And if you go back to the first look show, Degenerate 75 and myself, I took some notes.
And the very first one that I had circled was Pats plus six and a half. on this slate.I actually think it's a pretty good spot.I think the weather might even help them if that's the case.And so I like Romandre Patriots.If not, it's what Hoop said.
It's the secondary stacks with Swift and this D it's Swift with Hunter Henry, mini stacks, things like that, but nothing crazy beyond that title.What do you got?
I got pretty much the same as Hoop, but I don't hate that because you know, like, in chalkier teams, like, Romandre's a pivot of the pivot of the pivot.In that range, 100 more, Swift, who's more popular.James Connors, 100 more, more popular.
Aaron Jones is 300 more, will be one of the more popular running that place on the slate. of a I mean, I don't know if I get there myself, but it makes a lot of sense.Both defenses will get ownership.Swift will get some.
He's had 18 touches in the last six games.The Roshan at the goal line is a little worrisome, but Swift can get there so many ways out of the backfield.Swift, Bears-D make sense of the pairing.You flip it, there you go, ownership.
Again, I probably won't do it, but I definitely get it.Stevenson can also catch some passes out of the backfield.I'm not going Caleb Williams stuff.Really, I'm totally in agreement with who, Punter Henry. would be the last.
Someone mentioned it up here, but he has been Drake May's favorite target, which makes sense for a rookie quarterback security blanket in the middle of the field.So that's how I see it.Not much interest in the first one.
I forgot.I got some of these from the Mayo show.We built this shell out and he, he loved it for some reason.And sometimes he gets it right with that.So maybe it will be may Douglas Henry. with, I think we use Swift on the run back.
I don't know, but if those get their big time giveaway for Shippet Nation, because certainly not something I'm high on, but I'm not building those lineups and not putting them on something.I'm always the FOMO king.Go ahead, Hoop.I see you over there.
I was just laughing.I was just laughing at the Millie Maker today.I'm not going there, but it's funny.I like seeing that sort of stuff in the chat.
Jake knows.People hate this one, but I came out.The Gus bus, it's the choo-choo train, man.The Chuba Hubbard train.It just keeps rolling.And that man got paid now too.Canadian as well, by the way.So congrats to Chuba Hubbard.Love to see that.
I will say, and the stone's going away in a second, but just to note, definitely the highest optimal defense I've ever seen us have ever on the stone.And even though they're getting like 25%, it's like, this is what I always talk about.
You don't read negative leverage.It's just like, Oh, it's negative.So I can't play it.It's, it's that close to being positive leverage in this stuff, obviously in higher stakes gets a little bit trickier because it will go up.
Did you have something to add on that one?Yeah.
Just one, one thing I did want to add on that, like if you're using an optimizer, basically any optimizer you you're using, obviously we recommend that use the shift mizer, but
If you don't look at the defense, it's just going to jam the bears like all your teams are going to have the bears defense.
So one thing I definitely like going doing today is going to some of these other high end defenses and force them in a little bit because yeah, I mean the bears look great.The price is great.
The matchups great, but you know what are the odds there in optimal?I mean we're showing what like 21% so 80% of the time someone else is going to be optimal.
So if you don't force in other defenses, you're just going to be fully loaded on the on the bears D today.
Yeah, the chat wants to know, let me have a quick look at this.Oh man, Hoop is going to be excited.Guess whose birthday it is today?Dalton Kincaid?It is the tight end.I'll give it away so we can keep the show moving.It is Zach Ertz.
How old do you think Zach Ertz is turning? 34. Oh, Tidal got it on the head right away.
For some reason, in the back of my head, I feel like I looked at his age on one of these shows, and it said he was old and dusty, and it only said 33, and I was like, what?
He's got the speed for sure.That's the one.So hey, there we go.Found a quick little reference.Maybe you have to remind me to bring this up. Let's keep a moving title.Let's go to the next one.I'll kick it off because I said uno reverse.
I made fun of this guy.Luckily, I've never been down the, um, you know, complete rabbit hole of breaking this down to never Allen.I've been out never in my homes.We're sticking with, we'll get there later.
But I was saying like, who do you put Allen with?It's so hard to figure out.I said, did you have Mack Hollins and Quinton Morris last week?Like it's just a pain, right?
But again, we'll wait on the Amari Cooper news, but kind of after that, it's like, if you're not playing James Cook or don't care about him at seven K and maybe you should, I'm just saying if you don't, Alan Shakir, Matt Collins, Kincaid.
And the most interesting thing title to me on this game is Adonay Mitchell, super chalk, especially the higher stakes you go.He's just going to get ramped up in ownership at 34.
Matt Collins, 33 with no ownership on the opposite side, not quite a 2v2 switcheroo or swapperoo, whatever people want to call it that I made up.
But Shakir Adonay Mitchell will be much more popular than Downs, even though Downs is getting ownerships to Downs and Mac Hollins.It's almost the same price.Uh, yeah, yeah.Almost got him on free.No, that guy's dead to hoop now.He quit that one, man.
He's over it.Um, but go ahead title this game.I I'm just thinking some thoughts out loud real quick on it, but my Uno reverse is on Josh Allen and I made room for him by getting rid of Caleb Williams.So it feels like a good trade.
Yeah, I agree with that for sure.I don't know how much interest I have in both quarterbacks, but the thing is, is pass catchers on both sides will be popular.
Like the cold side, Josh Founds is going to be one of the most popular receivers on the slate.Very fair price.No Michael Pittman, has that great rapport with Joe Flacco.It all adds up.
And then you look, if you guys have the stone up, you guys hit the like button. You'll see, Bill's defense has not been very great as well, susceptible to both the run and the pass.Downs looks great at that price.
Adani Mitchell, we've talked about him a lot so far, there just isn't great value.Of course, without Michael Pittman, Mitchell gets a big role on a slate without a lot of value, wide receiver, he's gonna be played.Pierce is the clear leverage play.
if you want from like the receiver standpoint.But Jonathan Taylor just makes the most sense if you want to leverage all of them.How do those guys fail?JT gets there on the ground.He's minus 160 to score.
He's also in a range that is gonna, he'll have to be not low owned by any means, but if you go 100 less, oh, I was looking at Fander right there. If you go 100 Moore's Breece Hall, I think he'll be more popular.
I think Bijan will be more popular at 7'7".And then Kamara's a little more expensive as well, who's going to get ownership.
I think if you go to the opposite side of the game, we're assuming Amari Cooper's out, Shakir's going to get ownership on both sides.Matt Collins, I do like that pivot from Adani Mitchell for sure. 3300 direct pivot.
Kincaid might get a little, little bit.But James Cook I don't think is getting played much either in that same JT range.People want to go to other ones when spending up.There's clear, clear leverage plays off of these receivers at running backs.
Again, you do have to spend for it. But looking at the stone, neither of these teams are good really against the pass or the run.
So I'll definitely be playing some downs, some Mitchells, Shakir, Hollins, but I'm looking at the running backs as leverage.
Because man, if two running backs, if Cooks get two on the ground, or if JT gets two on the ground, that is how these chalky receivers can bust.It's a very easy, it just makes a lot of sense to me when you're looking at ownership and game theory.
So that's what I'll be hoping.
Yeah.I like the call.I'm going to kick it to hoop in a second.But if, uh, if this Carolina team keeps going up over in Germany, we might have to see Daniel Jones hit the bench.It's drew locks birthday too.
Maybe he can get in the game and get into some action.I was just looking at the old birthday chart, but the chat's talking all about this stuff.Oops.So here's one.We saw it with Derek Henry, get his hundreds, right?
There's a Jonathan Taylor needs one for 50.I think who, before I kick it to you, like it's a game for me of what ifs, because What if Jonathan Taylor gets one touchdown?Is that enough to pay off 7,500?
Yes, I'll have some yards, all that, and make some leverage there.I get it.And I'm going to play some, but that's a what if.Everyone telling me, oh, just play Alec Pierce instead of Adonay Mitchell.
This is what's going to happen with Alec Pierce, even if he has the game you're talking about. It's going to be a very small subset of lineups in the lotteries to get there.It's almost like the Thailand, Thailand Wallace stuff.
The other night, eight people, the, you know, the first 30 lineups had them after that.He wasn't needed even at 21 points he's needed, but it's because you're not going to play them enough.You're going to talk about it.
You're not going to be about it in your lineups. And same with other people.So even though if Pierce gets there, it may not matter.
And also with Mitchell, especially the higher stakes, smaller field stuff, you, you also can get away with eight points probably, or something like that.It's got to keep that in mind as well.Hope you got other thoughts on this game.
You know, Alan, all that stuff, bring it all, bring it all to the table.
Yeah, so I guess first off you guys will die because this is hilarious.I just reran my teams.
I just made a minor adjustment I actually I let in more like a Donnie Mitchell into my teams and then I was like man I went to the bottom I got another wide receiver in here and I literally just ran it after we did the little Jordan Humphrey comment like sure shit the guy that was added in was little Jordan Humphrey and you guys would be proud all right you guys would be proud and
to went with it in my main team, like a Josh Allen stack.Full disclosure, I did not go that route, but I like it a lot.We know Donnie Mitchell is going to be popular.We know Josh Downs is going to be popular.
But man, if those guys are going to do well, Josh Allen, to me, has to do something on the other side.If they have these big, huge games like Downs and Mitchell, we need something from the Bills.
you know, more times than not, the Bills offense gets the job done.So I'm very interested in the Josh Allen stuff.It's cheaper than normal with, with no Amari Cooper.
Now, I mean, Shakir is up there a little bit at 6k on DK, but the fan dual price, I believe is 6k as well, which is, you know, much, much cheaper.Um, Dalton Kincaid will get a nice boost.I think it was like 10 targets or something last week.
And, you know, I've been playing them obviously all season long.It hasn't worked out great, but, um, You know, 10 targets, yeah, 10 targets.Again, he hasn't had the explosive game.I'm hoping it's today because I'm going to play a lot of his ass.
So I'm definitely in on Kincaid.Matt Collins at 33, great pivot off Mitchell, like you talked about.Even, you know, Curtis Samuel, another cheap option at 33.I'm not as interested in the running backs in this game.
Like I get the Jonathan Taylor stuff, but It's tough, man.If you're going to play Alvin Kamara at a high rate, if you're playing Brees Hall at a high rate, if you're playing Bijon, who's now up there at 7-7, you just can't play all these guys.
And I think I like everyone else a little bit better than Jonathan Taylor.And I did find it's a little easier to play him on FanDuel.So maybe I play him on FanDuel, not on DK. Kind of the same thing with James Cook.It's hard to get him in as well.
I mean, he's got a legit price tag So I'm gonna be banking on all the the passing stuff here Josh Allen to those guys all the pass catchers I'm not playing Flacco, but definitely will have downs Mitchell and Probably a little bit of Pierce, but I think this is a very appealing game a lot of different ways You can go the over stack definitely in play here as well.
I like the overstack.I like some of the, even the Flacco side.And that's the other thing I thought about too, when you bring Flacco into it, that's what can end up pushing Josh Allen.Like Josh Allen is going to be Flacco someday, right?
Where he's coming back for teams and playing the standard quarterback role and at whatever age and just doing his thing.But I said this, this was the Uno reverse.It's not the same to me.
And this is the other thing, like, you know, I want to bring up a couple more quick things and then we'll move on from this game. you know, when people are mixing in everyone and my boy, Tom Brady, you know, always sharp and mixing in all that stuff.
I'm not doing that.And I'm saying, I know this will go against my never my home saying, but it's not the case.Like Josh Allen puts up 25 plus 30 plus all the time on a large scale.He's done it 25 plus a ton.
Even if you don't want to give me the 30 number, Patrick moms literally just broke 20 for the first time this season in DraftKings points.It's not the same.Everyone will say, Oh, but today you can just play my homes and commit to Hopkins and Kelsey.
You can do that.And if you are going to go that route, that is what I would do.But that's kind of the breakdown is I also don't see him ever having the big explosion game.There's defenses to deal with all this other stuff.
with Josh Allen today, I'm committing.It's Kincaid, it's Shakir, and it's a little bit of Matt Collins.That's where I'm at.And you put them with two guys and you move on.That's really how I'm playing him.That's the commitment.
But if he breaks it, he can have 30 plus and be needed on a 10 game slate.And so that's why I feel like that with that game.I don't know, Tyler, you got anything else you want to add with that one?
If not, we can go to the next game, which is the Vikings Jags.A lot of steam here as well.I think a lot of people targeting this one.
Yeah, the last thing to mention, I do like the Kincaid stuff a good bit because he also feels like leverage off of Shakir if Matt Collins does do anything.So I think it's clear that all the receivers are good plays.
That's why they're coming the ownership.But Kincaid, James Cook, JT feels like the best leverage if you think that the chalk boss in that game.So the next game wanted to point out one weather thing Roth was talking about.
It says potential for some rain here.That's Jacksonville.That's Florida.So no surprise. 10 to 15 wins, sometimes 20.It's yellow, so I'm not worried about it.But if you see rain, people want to know a possibility of that.
Really clear in this game for me, though.The Js stink.Mack Jones behind center.I'm not punting Mack Jones.Salary is a little tight today. I still want points from my quarterback.I do not want to play Mac Jones on a 10-game slate.So no Jags.
Easy Viking side.Everyone's going Aaron Jones.You can go Aaron Jones and stand up for Vikings defense.If you want to get a little different that way, who will be low owned?But of course, you guys know what I'm doing.It's the Jets, baby.Too low owned.
Too good.Defense too bad.Leverage off of Aaron Jones.Throw Sam Darnold in there if you want.I don't love, love Sam Darnold stuff. because I don't know if Mac Jones can push him enough.If I play Darnold, like, do I just want Darnold, Jefferson?
I don't know, maybe you can help me with that a little, Tambo.My favorite way, though, either Aaron Jones, Vikings D, or just play Jefferson, leverage off of Jones, call the day in that game.Are you playing any Darnold?
Yeah, I am.And I'm, uh, I'm against your boy today, man.Just, it is what it is.That's not a good island to be on.Not usually it isn't, but, uh, I think, I feel like it has been all season.
I feel like it's just been, I do worry about the Jones thing, but one thing I like here actually quite a bit as, you know, as good as the leverage would be on Jefferson.It's again, it's tough to get to these high price wide receivers on this slate.
So that makes you unique if you can do it. but I'm still looking at the overall and the upside and the projection, the ownership, more factors that I'm bringing in.
And the guy that stood out for me was actually one of his other dudes there, Jordan, Jordan Addison.I like him 5,300 for him.And the thing about him is I think if he, if he goes, he goes.And so it's two touchdowns, the defense is on Jefferson.
He ends up being open.That's where you could just play Darnold with Addison. another different way to play Aaron Jones.You mentioned what I love is just paying up for the Vikings.D it could just be a smash, especially in higher stakes.
I like that when everyone's going the, um, you know, the, the bears and below you can go right up to the Vikings, but they're playing Aaron Jones.
So it's like another thing that would make sense going against Mack Jones, if they are getting to that cheaper quarterback there.So like that, you could stack in Jones though with Darnold, right?
You could play Darnold Jones, Addison, don't even need to run it back on the Jag side and just run that out there.So I think that's interesting.Mack Jones,
I guess, you know, you play Mac Jones, it's going to be for me with more of a Parker Washington Ingram, run it back with Aaron Jones.It's another way to flip the Aaron Jones builds and play them differently.
I'll have a little bit of that, but not really in my mains or any big, big high dollar buy-ins for me.I'll kick it to you on this game.Your thoughts on Vikings Jags.
to a At the wide receiver position, I think we just know what everyone's doing.They're going to, you know, the mid-tier, the downs and the DeAndre Hopkins.And I think Jefferson has a chance to get squeezed.
I just did want to pull up what we have in terms of ownership.All right.He's barely getting owned.Yeah.So I think it could be less.I think we could be like 5% Justin Jefferson.Like if you're playing 150, like even if you don't like them, play 8%
And you're not sacrificing much and you're over the field.So I just have to be on Jefferson when he comes in that low.And I get your point though.I mean, he hasn't had the, the explosive game this season where you needed him for sure.
And pricing's a little bit tough.So I get it, but man, if I'm thinking Jefferson's coming in at 5%, like I have to be on him, have to be on him and I'm playing Darnold.So it just makes sense.I like the Addison call.
And then, um, I'm in on Hawkinson, like, uh, you know, 4,700. pretty cheap.I mean, tight end is pretty loaded today, but he's going to have a game at some point where we're looking back and like, man, why did no one play Hawkinson?
Like he just went off at 2%. So I'm in on him too.So I'm in on the entire Vikings offense.I like to call on the defense.That's one of these defenses I talked about.People aren't gonna be paying up at defense.
I'm forcing in some defensive payoffs today.And the Vikings is a very good one and I'll be fading everything on the Jaguar side.
Yeah, if you could see the stone right now, what are we at right now, 230 likes, something like that.So I got 170 to go, but the stone, you might have interest in this game and it's a, it's a couple of pretty interesting spots.
And then I guess the last thing I'll say is that it's not about Jefferson not being able to, we obviously know he's, he's the number one ultimate you know, next to Jamar chase game the other day, that's who you expect it out of.
That's the guy that can do it.I think it's more the latter of what you said, who, where it's like the pricing is, it's just what it does to your lineup.
To me, everyone I looked at it either put me in the exact same bracket as sort of what everything else looked like.And I couldn't really separate it that way.The one thing I will say though, is what did we see last week was, um,
What was the winning lineup again last week?Who was in it?Gino, sorry.Gino, JSN.Remember, it was like, oh, I have all the chalk got there.It was like, no, Gino, 5%.JSN, 5%.That's how you see these things happen.
And you're like, oh, all I had to do was play Darnold and Jefferson.And that's the other thing too, where somebody said this.No, overexposed.It was the same guy.I'm looking for moon rakers here to comment.
For a lot of these for a lot of these people that do this shit in this industry if they see someone 6% Like oh that the chalk out there if it's like a non like 1% play It's it's considered chalk like these people just kill me when they talk about chalk.
It's so annoying man.So annoying
Yeah, it's just that it's all about the why I originally coined.It's not who you play.It's how you play.I'm like the chalk.The chalk is the chalk for a reason.You're not going to get it all in.
Like if a guy is five percent, like these guys that talk about like, oh, the chalk gets there again in their eyes, though, anything above two percent is considered chalk, which is just foolish and just not the case at all.
And it's super fucking annoying to listen to that shit.
100% and Moonrakers, I don't disagree with you.Typically, I'm saying like the idea of what you're saying, is it wrong?
I get it because he's not going to, you know, he's usually not anyway going to rush a bunch of touchdowns in or doing anything like that.It's actually more of what the other guys can do with him.
Jefferson can go off just him and him, and he could throw a touchdown to like Josh Oliver or something.And you still get that touchdown for Sam Darnall, but you weren't getting to Oliver, nor did you need him.
Same thing with, um, Addison, you can throw two to Addison.You get just those two.Yes.I get why you would typically want to play him with two.That's like for showdown or something.I would for sure force it.
I think it's gone a lot away from that in the main slates where you don't necessarily need to have it.And then Jake always loved the Jake takes.This is what I was going to say though.It's just not true. That's what everybody says.
And it is what it feels like.It is what it feels like to you and many others.But you're seeing Darnold at 10% or less.You're seeing Jefferson at 5%.You're seeing Addison at 5% or less.You're seeing Hawkinson at 2% or less.
Nobody's getting to the dudes he will actually throw to. And really on the other side, nobody's playing Ingram, Parker, Washington, Brian Thomas, if he's in all this stuff.
So actually nobody's playing this game, even though they, everybody says they are, everybody's playing Aaron Jones, bottom line.That's it.That's the number.So, and, and yeah, now, now, okay.At least he gave me the JK on that one.
The Mo Alley Cox, you go ahead.I don't feel as bad if I miss that one.I'm sure you can get a touchdown bet the anytime, but yeah, if it is a nailer day, um, you know, put a nail in my coffin on that one. to a
I guess, I'm probably gonna play a Darnold, Jeff.I'm playing Jefferson.I'll probably throw a Darnold.I liked Addison, you talked a little more into it.Hockinson or Addison?
You're not playing Jefferson, that's fair, yeah.
And if you're playing, again, a lot of, I guess, A lot of this stuff's much easier if you're in an optimizer building 150 teams.So I guess I'm speaking in regards to that way of building teams.Like if I'm hand building, I get it.
It's hard to get to Jefferson.But if you are playing Darnold, just to kind of go back a little bit, like I think you have to play Addison, you have to play Hawkinson, especially if you have multiple teams.It just, it makes sense, man.
It just makes sense.If you're not playing Darnold, but pick one for me, but I like Darnold.
If you're not playing Darnold, I'm not trying to go and speak out of both sides here.I will say this though.Title is obviously there's mass leverage to going to Hawkinson only filling up your onesie position and not playing Jones like that.
You have to play a tight end. If you don't feel comfortable with the chalk ones or the San Francisco, Tampa Bay ones later on, or whatever else it might be, the Hunter Henry's all this stuff.
Then I, if you just want to play Hawkinson and call that your leverage play, I hope he has that, you know, eight for 110 in one game that doesn't necessarily drag Darnold along.I think that's great actually.And I think it's fine.
Don't need to go say, Oh, if I'm playing him, I need a run back.You could just play him and get away with it.So hand building that out.I certainly think that would be a possibility as well.
Yeah.And, uh, no, you can play J Jefferson naked.Like he goes for one 50 and two, and that's all you need.He can leverage off the Jones.There's a lot of ways you can go in this game.
Jefferson can also do the old like 12, one 70 and zero and have a day and just catch a bunch of balls and crush at that.And so that, that's actually another note that you brought up, but it's likely we're getting a gritty in there for sure.
Um, real quick though, too, and hoop, I'll let you take away the next game after this one, it's going to be Broncos chiefs get to never my home's here, but.
I just want to say too, I guess, I'm curious, I love getting other DFS players' thoughts, we're lucky to have the team that we have around us and the members and everything, we're always talking strategy and stuff.
I don't know that there's a right or wrong for this, I actually don't think there is, but I guess my mind doesn't work the way you said.
even though it's true and factual, it doesn't work that way where I get like if Jefferson's 5% and you have eight, you have leverage.Let's say he comes in at four, you still have double the field.At least you got some, et cetera.
I guess though, if I'm doing that for an 80, what is he?$8,900, $8,800 guy, I'm looking for like if he breaks the slate, how much I can dominate the field with such a big boy move on a guy like that.
So it's almost like I kind of want to commit more to 20%.Again, I don't think it's right or wrong.I'm just saying my thought process on that is kind of different than yours.Yeah.
So, so the eight, so I guess the way I prefaced it, which I don't know if you, you heard this point, I was saying, even if you don't like him,
and you're building 150, like at the bare minimum, just play them like six, seven, 8% just to get them in the mix.Now you still have to get everything else right, like the rest of your shit needs to work.
But if you do like them, like I do, and like title does, I'm gonna be at a higher number where it's more likely it pays off if it is a Jefferson type day.So the 8% comment was more to the fact that if you don't love them,
you're building 150 is clearly the one wide receiver.There's not many on the slate that could just like nuke it for 40.
Yeah.I love that breakdown.And I'll let you move to the next game on it.Cause I thought it made perfect sense.It's all how you, you started with it.We're like, right.If you don't like them, that makes perfect sense.
Or if you're only playing 10% Arnold, maybe he's in a bunch of those lineups that still makes up for it or something.So that would make more sense.And yeah, Mark, you'd be looking for a buddy.I think it's a one for 87 is that that's worked out.
So we got a real sample on that one, my friend, but always good fun.Like I said, it is what it is today would be a day.I'm never playing him as I stick by my word.It's not just a bit.
I have my reasons, but if you were playing them, I get why today would be the day for some people.And it's not like the ownership's huge, right?It's only really on Hopkins.
It's almost the, uh, the same thing we just talked about hoop with the Aaron Jones stuff.Oh, everyone's on this.I mean, you know, no one's playing my home still.No one's playing Kelsey.Everyone, you know, people are playing Hopkins.
We'll see if it even gets as high as people think, but I recommend that, you know, that you could play them as a one-off, but I just, I'm not going there again, but I get it.So go ahead.I'll let you take this one away.
disagreed on the Jefferson stuff, and we're gonna disagree on this one, and I'm gonna try to convince you.I usually don't try to convince you.I know it's not gonna work.Like, you're very hard-headed.
It's not gonna fucking work me trying to convince you, but, okay, but, but, but. This isn't Mahomes 7,500, Rasheed Rice 7,200, Travis Kelsey 8K, right?It's Mahomes 66, it's Hopkins 5,300, it's Travis Kelsey 6K, Noah Gray 2.9, worthy, unowned.
So, and we're still getting low ownership.It's not like this is a guy that's gonna come in at very high ownership.So because of the price, Ownership outside of Hopkins, I'm in on my homes.It's been a while.I've been with you for the most part.
I don't think I've played in my homes outside of showdown or small slates this year.That's why you had a chance to make money and have made some money.
It's just dependent on that.
I think it could be a day where at quarterback 25 to 26 could win the position.Like, you know, that's the sort of slate that you need.And I'm, I'm going to, I'm playing some of the homes at 66 Hopkins, obviously is going to be popular.
Kelsey, not so much.I mean, ownership at tight end, I'd assume gets spread out.There's so many good guys there. You know, worthy should get no ownership.I guess I really don't actually love worthy all that much at 61.
He's got to beat a lot of good guys there.And it's probably more than just one big play, but more because of the price tag and match up here.I think the Broncos can push it a little bit.I mean, Courtland Sutton's been good.He's cheap.
I guess it's kind of tough to play anyone outside of him, but like Bo Nix is showing the ability to push the pace a little bit and make these games competitive.So I am in on the Mahomes stuff, you know, Hopkins.
Kelsey, I don't even mind like a double stack, like at my homes Hopkins, Kelsey with Sutton on the other side.Uh, I'm in on it.You don't have to comment.I'm sure you're, you're definitely, I'm sure you're remaining out.
I'm sure you're remaining out.Remaining out because, uh, your statement was if I feel like it's a 25, 26 point type of day, do you know in the lab?
I'm saying that like, it could be, I'm not saying, I think you're right, but Tam was going to say why is is not
is it's gonna be like Mahomes and Hopkins done, no Denver guy, no double stack, that just allows a balanced build with some of the other chalk hitting in a high stakes tournament, like the 44, 44 mega.
And people will be like, oh, Tambo Mahomes smashes.Like, yeah, that's not what happens.So we'll see, keep doing that.If you're doing it, other people out there, Hoop has not been along for the ride very often.
So I get it, but- Yeah, I mean, I've been on the right side.I don't think I've clicked the name Again outside of the smaller slates or showdown at all.I just I think this is this is the time man.
This is Another uno reverse title as I kick it to you here cuz I'll also add this to the mix What do I never like and just you know, not shit on but just I'm by play DFS daily as we all do I'm saying but like it's whatever happens is a guy can slip fall whatever never in a matchup stuff and
But Sir Tan has shut down every dude.And I actually think that if Hopkins actually comes in at like 23%, that is extremely over-owned on this slate, just because he's 5,300, really underpriced because it's priced based on what he just did.
what he did last week has nothing to do with what he's about to do or not do this week.So, I mean, Denver D is even in play for me down here as a pivot off of like the Patriots or, or something like that, but not because I'm against my homes.
Just, I think it's possible.They just, it's a division game too, right?Like, go ahead, tight.I'll let you take away all those thoughts, but I certainly think there's opportunities here for, for just to fail altogether.
If you think that, I think Kelsey is probably the nuts then.I mean, it's not like they're not going to move the ball.The last two games, 16 targets and 12 targets for Kelsey.Again, that onesie position, spending up.
Honestly, it's kind of hard to spend up.Feels like if DeHoff gets shut down, it has to be Kelsey.I can't get to Worthy.That man can't even stay in bounds on a wide open touchdown.So, so, so, so tilting.That was bad.That was bad.
Yeah, but I mean, that's that's how you win all the cheese, Tambo.Don't play much like he has to be played.The pricing on both sides is too good.Coming off a monster game, wide receiver one with Mahomes like he's getting all the hype in the world.
So it's the perfect spot to fade on a 10 game main slate if that's how you feel.
He's a fine one-off just not to cut you off.But so you, you clarify, just to clarify, like I mentioned, if I'm playing a one-off it's him or Kelsey.
Kelsey fills up the onesie position or I should say hunt even, I didn't mention that and I was going to let you talk about the games first, but yeah, there's other guys I can go to in this game, but it's one-offs for me.
No, no Bo Nix stacks, no Mahomes stacks on me.
I'm with you.It's one us for me, and it's really just Hopkins, Kelsey.Of course, in 150, I'll play some Hunt.But the thing is, I talked about that range with Hunt.Swift, Connor, Aaron Jones, I like all three of them more.
You mentioned Ramondre Stevenson, too.He'll probably be lower on, like, it's just such a strong range.We just got news.We're not at the game yet.CMC's a full go.8K, if I'm getting CMC as a full go, like, I love Bijon today when we get to it.
So annoying, that news broke. By the way, I just I know cuz I was gonna be way over on him because I figured that was the case Super annoying that they broke that
Yeah, because there's leverage off some purdy stuff we'll get to.But I guess moral of the story is just running back solo.And again, I mentioned JT and James Cook earlier.They're going to be like 2%, 3% because of the leverage.
Yeah, running back is definitely great.The more I talk, the more I probably want three running backs.But again, you kind of fall into similar builds.But long story short, I have usually hand-built five main teams, 150 stuff.
I won't be playing Hunt because I prefer the other ones.Kelsey, DHOP, one-offs, move on.
Yeah.And, um, scary.I've just appreciate, cause I appreciate it.Always answer these ones when you put them up.Sometimes I'm hard on you, but, um, everybody that sent me questions for my passion project, I appreciate it.I read them all.
I wasn't responding one by one.They were helped with what I'm working on right now, but you sent me one talking about some of these plays.
This is the prime example, my friend, like looking for, even if Troutman scores a touchdown, probably not anywhere near the lineup, bet him anytime, touchdown,
build your lineups differently and get on some of the better options and not be afraid, um, to find some just good plays as opposed to trying to make a diamond in the rough, like Troutman work.
If he scores a touchdown, I think he just did actually, uh, on national tight end day, there was like 20 tight ends that scored way more than him on that slate as well.So, um, different slate altogether, but just a little note there.
So let's move on hoop.I'll, uh, I'll kick it back to you on this next one, Falcons saints.And we just talked a little bit about the, you know, Bijon Camara stuff. There's Taysom Hill.You like some Mooney and some Londons and those guys.
What are you doing here with this one in the Dome in New Orleans?
Yeah, I've kind of, I don't know, maybe reversed my stance a little bit on like the Mooney stuff.I mean, I like Mooney.We've talked about him a lot on this show.
We've been ahead of the curve on him, but man, it is tough to pay the 65 for when you go in there and start building some teams.I mean, you're sacrificing some exposure to really solid running back.So I like the Falcon stuff, I think more on FanDuel.
and it's going to be equally low owned over there.Like with, with Kirk and Kirk will get a little more ownership on Fando, but it is tough.So I've scaled back by like Mooney stuff on, on DK.I still have Bijon.I still have Drake London.
I do like pits quite a bit, to be honest with you.Again, these, these tight ends are looking very nice today.I do think it's a lot of people are going to ask, is it a two tight end day?
It could be, and I'll have a lot of two tight end sort of teams and pits at 4,800, I think is a phenomenal play.So, I like stacking the Falcons more on FanDuel.On DK, I mean, I'm honestly just having trouble getting there financially.
It's difficult to get these teams in there.Kirk Cousins at 67 on DK is like 74 or 75 on FanDuel.Kind of tough, again, on DK, but I like the individual pieces.Bijon, Drake London and pits on the Saint side taste them tomorrow.
I think both solid options taste them on DK fan duels up to like 6300 not as appealing and man this wide receiver group for the Saints.
Oh my like oh my and that's just a reason to be on tomorrow and taste them and not necessarily anything else on the same side.So yeah, it's kind of where I'm at this one.
Okay.Yeah.And, and just to kick it to you title before I do, but like, yeah, I'm not coming at you.Just say like, that's, you missed the boat.That was on national Titans day.It still wasn't even needed that day.You didn't even need that value.
And then also he, in like 25 games, I just looked it up.He's never, he's broke seven one time and it was, and it was nine. before that was seven or less every single game.
It's just, I'm just trying to point out like you can, you can find other options, tons of ways to still fit those running backs with other value plays that are in better spots based on injuries, different factors like that.
Or you just spend a little bit more, but there's, there's a lot of good options and guys that can score two touchdowns at the tight end position title.Kick it to you on this game, Atlanta, new Orleans.
Yeah, Kamara is obviously the clear play.Everyone's going to go there.
If you just look at how beat up they are, like when Mason Tipton's your one and Scantling's your two, you know that they want to run the ball or get it to Kamara as much as possible.
Taysom makes sense as leverage off of Kamara in the aspect of if Kamara busts, Taysom might rush in too, or like Derek Carr gets it. to tip dinner scantling, but I'm not gonna take that approach.I prefer the Taysom getting that way.
And again, he's gonna get some ownership, but not even close to where Kamara goes.So just Taysom and Kamara that side.Falcon side's really tough for me because, man, like we talked about a little cash show.Week one, I wrote off Cousins too early.
He's looked great since.And look at the ownership on the stone.Like it is so, so low.Yeah, we have Drake at, 15, Mooney at 8.I wouldn't even be surprised if we're a little hot on them.I mean, it's no March on Lattimore.He got traded.
They're in a dome.This defense isn't good if you look at the Stone.The offense has been great for the Falcons.Kind of reminds me of, I think it was two weeks ago, the Buccaneers.Might have been against the same Saints team.
People just have not played Baker as much as they should, and they just kept nuking. The Falcons are going to move the ball.I feel very confident in that.My favorite play for sure is Bijan.The last three weeks, finally unload him.
24-20, 26 touches, 7-7, five targets.I test wise, he has absolutely passed it.One of my favorite plays on the slate for sure. The Cousins stuff is so interesting.Like, Pitts is cheap enough.Darnell's expensive, but he's been a beast.
Drake London, like, I have a hard time believing.The price take's fair, but after what he did last week to people, you have easy stack tart candidates.And I'll throw Ray Ray McLeod in there, too.
Like, we're talking Mitchell, Matt Collins, value's pretty tough.The guy's on the field like 90% of snaps.It could be a Ray Ray McLeod.So, there's so many pass catchers at pretty low ownership in a game.I think they score points, implied for 25.
I think I'm going to get to Cousins on one of my main teams.What are your thoughts on that Tambo?I love Bijon though.
I think it's another interesting spot because it's the similar thought to instead of going to like the Mac Jones stuff on the opposite side of Aaron Jones earlier that we talked about.It's like, you know, everyone, all this game is busy.
Lots of people are in on it.Like it's Bijon versus that.No, it's just the running backs again.
I don't like the Derek Hills, Derek Carr side, sorry, I'll play some Taysom Hill, I was going to say, but you could do like a Bijon Taysom Hill secondary stack, whatever you want to do.
A London Camara, you can get secondary stacks, but you also could just do what you just talked about and look for a different way to play Camara.There's nobody there. Like I get people don't like Camaro chalk.
And I, you know, I talked a little bit poorly about it over the week.And then as the week comes around, that's what this show's for.You'll be talking to the Mayo show Friday.It's this show is the final thoughts.
Here's a way that you can play it and get away with it.One is the saints D but two of the one I like better is what you brought up title.And if you go to the other side, it's a great matchup.They pass a ton.They have a good team total.
And I don't believe the London ownership because he just crushed everyone's dreams.He's obviously going to get an injury right away, this game and leave the game.Everyone knows exactly what happened last week happens this week, right?
So you've got cousins, London pits, and if you can't afford London, drop down to Mooney, can't afford Mooney.You could even drop down to Ray Ray, like you talked about.So it leverages the Bijon side, still lets you play Camara.
You could play cousins, London, Mooney, and use Taysom Hill.You can play Jawan Johnson.Like there's ways to still make these stacks work. They do rate out pretty well in our stuff.Again, don't have the stone up yet.We're about a hundred likes away.
Um, so do you want to make note of that?But I think it's definitely an interesting spot.I do like that call do as Ryan says, hit that.Like I posted this up.It's on my ex at toe tag and Tambo.But again, overlay alert, there's 250 spots left.
in our $5, five max rake free listener league.So the link you can copy and paste it into your browser and do it that way, or just go over to X and find it there.Anything else you want to talk about from what we've mentioned in this game?
If not, you can take us into a popular one, but a good one, the 49ers at the Buccaneers.
Yeah, I do think the, the last point for the Alvin Kamara stuff with, uh, the positive, uh, news for, for, uh, CMC, I think the ownership on Kamara will come down.I mean, he was looking like super mega popular play now.
It's not going to come down like a Tom where he's like 15%, but you know, it goes from. maybe 30 to mid twenties or something.So, um, I think that is one thing to point out.And then, yeah, this game is, this looks great.
And again, uh, I was a little bit bummed, uh, that the, the McCaffrey quote came out that he's going to be full go, because that's what I was building my teams based on.I thought that was going to be the case.
Like they've been very cautious with McCaffrey.Uh, they said he could probably could have played last week.And what's the one thing we know about the 49ers when a running back starting. The running back starting and getting all the freaking work.
And, um, you know, now that we get this, this quote that he's going to be full go.
Ownership probably comes up a little bit, but man, it's still Christian McCaffrey at eight K like this is a $10,000 running back with when he's fully healthy, full workload and getting a huge discount.
So now he's probably not 10 K in this day and age of pricing where it's all super soft, but probably closer to nine K. So you're getting a solid discount for. They're projected to score four touchdowns, 28 and a half, 29 points, really good spot.
Purdy 6,500 is just way too cheap on DraftKings.And with Ayuk out, Debo Samuel looks to be in a good spot.Juwan Jennings looks to be in a good spot.Ricky Pearsall appears to be in a pretty good spot.
Again, just getting worked into this offense, but I think it was like four or five targets last week Yeah, four targets brought them all in the week before five He's getting some action in this offense and should be low on and then another tight end to throw into the mix is is George Kittle and the one thing that I really like about this 49ers is
offense is on the other side, the bucks keep going, man.Even if they're getting their ass kicked, they continue to try to score touchdowns all the way to the end.
And obviously to their own detriment where they lost their two best wide receivers and Godwin and Mike Evans.So they'll keep going.You have a solid run backs on the other side.Otten, I think is a strong play.
You know, Sterling Shepard, some cheap dudes, our guy Miller time, Ryan Miller, 35.I think you can throw him in as a cheap run back.
On the other side obviously has to do more than just one touchdown on the main slate But should be pretty involved here.So this game all around looks great McCaffrey's too cheap.The purdy stuff looks good.
And there's a lot of different ways to do it Wouldn't mind like a game stack situation here If you're not playing McCaffrey, I think you definitely definitely need a lot of purdy to these pass catchers So a good game all around very interested
I think I wanted this guy out.So it's very annoying, but title, I'll kick it to you on this news.Jalen McMillan will play.So, um, you know, a lot of looks at shepherd.We were going to try and run back for Keem the dream.
You know, you can do a lot of different things in this game, but how do you handle that news?Because McMillan is 4,200, he's a hundred dollars more than shepherd who the ownership is currently on.
And you don't know, like everyone thinks they know now because of how it played out last time.But remember the original talk of when the first injury happened, it's like, well, they use shepherd in the slot, but they want to move Macmillan to it.
And Palmer's the Evans role.And these two are fighting for the other one.So talk to me about this one, because as our guy Rob says, Macmillan playing now as well.So that, that news just came out.
Yeah.Wow.That's actually pretty important news.Cause I had a decent bit of Sterling shepherd just because of the price nature of the slate.And I knew I was on Niner stuff.
To be honest, I don't like Sterling Shepard or McMillan nearly enough, or as much.That's another pass catcher that's gonna get looks.
It makes me like, I guess, Otten even more, in the sense of I know I'm gonna be playing 49ers stuff, and I know that doesn't affect Otten one bit, who's been a beast.So I think that's my main takeaway.
But it definitely bumps down the Sterling Shepard.Ray Ray McLeod, in that last game with Cousins stuff, had a fraction of the ownership. I think I might feel a little better with, I don't know.
The thing is, I know I like this Niner stuff, but with the CMC news, he's my favorite player in the game, I think.But Purdy's too cheap, I'm gonna get ownership.You can obviously play Purdy with CMC, he can catch the ball.
Jawan Jennings looks like a fair mid-tier guy.George Kittle looks like another strong tight end with upside if you go two tight ends, more balanced build.There's still Devo, so.
Man, that 49, or that McMillan stuff's really interesting, because I was just gonna go Sterling Shepard, Kate Otten as my run backs and just call the day there.
I think my favorite route might just go hope it's CMC Otten or CMC, you can even go like CMC Kittle or CMC Debo and just hope, it's just those two get all the work for the Niners.
They're implied for 27 points, the highest on the slate, and not get a run back there.So, I don't know, man, I'm torn.Talk me through it.
yeah i like a lot of things you said there like i i certainly think that the one interesting one and again it'll get steamed up a little bit more now fine but like cmck dotton nice little secondary stack you got to play a tight end anyway one thing that's in the back of my mind that i think and hoop you can correct me if i'm wrong you you usually remember this stuff better i think you've done pretty well on 49ers slates but
Isn't it when every, I know IUK's not healthy, but when CMC's healthy, especially and Debo's in there, usually Kittle's blocking a lot more and just taking more advantage of, you know, getting them, making room for them.
And so I kind of liked the, you know, if you're not playing CMC, the purty Debo Jennings with an Otten on the other side.And now obviously I talked about it, but I do like just, CMC with Otten, things like that.
And then I also love Baker, Cade Otten with CMC on the other side, because I think in order, if it's a big CMC day and it's a big 49ers day, could they blow them out?Sure.But they're still on the road, all this factor.
I think Baker could throw it, you know, a ton of times, 40 plus times.And that's just going to rack up points.Why I was a little bit annoyed because I felt good about Shepard in the slot, but go ahead, Hoop.I'll let you go for it.
Yeah.Ruins overall appeal of the game for sure.Just because, uh, It takes away clear play and it's not like the game's going to be more competitive now because Jalen McMillan is playing.It doesn't really do anything from that perspective.
The Kittle stuff, he's just, it's tough to predict.I mean, he excels in the high scoring back and forth games, which, you know, it's like, could we get that here? Man, it just, can the Bucks keep this within a touchdown?
And again, they've shown that they'll keep playing until the bitter end.So I think I'm still good with Kittle, but it is, there is definitely some risk involved.The one thing with the, the McMillan stuff is, you know, we talked about a lack of value.
Donnie Mitchell, his ownership is now going up. Matt Collins, assuming Amari Cooper's out, his ownership's now going up.Any cheap wide receiver is likely getting increased ownership because of this news.
We lose a clear, solid value in Sterling Shepard, most likely.
Yeah, that's definitely something to think about.Now you remind me, I forgot about that too, the kiddle side of it.
So it actually, it wasn't like I wasn't playing him as more of what I'm saying is it's, you know, makes me think about some of the builds without him.I'm okay with it, but obviously the fact that it could go back and forth.
And one interesting thing is that even with the CMC news early and now the, the extra emphasis point on it or exclamation point, I should say, uh, the, the, it's just staying at six, six and a half in all these places.Like why, why are they not?
nine and a half.Like this is the bucks depleted bucks team.I know it's in Tampa Bay, but man, that's a, that's another interesting thing.I don't know title anything else you want to have with that game.If not take us into the Steelers commanders.
They're giving Baker a lot of credit, rightfully so.
I mean, he continues the battle and I do believe backdoor covers and like Hoop's saying, their ability to just keep fighting and putting up points probably has to do with that line a little bit as well, which unfortunately, it's hard to bake that in because, I mean, if they're up 17, they're obviously the other side with the Niners will run the ball more.
It's not like they're going all out.A backdoor cover doesn't really help push the other team as much, but yeah, interesting point there.Next game, really easy for me. Commander Steelers, no interest in these Steelers.
If you played anyone, it would be Najee Harris for me.But again, that Connor Swift range, like it's so, so loaded.Oh, that glare is not great.That Connor Swift range, so, so loaded.You can't play everyone.But I am going to be playing Austin Eckler.
There is no Brian Robinson again.5,800, probably the cheapest running back I'll really get to.Just such a good pass catcher out of the back. He scored at the goal line last week.Plenty of outs there at 5,800 for him to get there.
And then the other ones, scary Terry's expensive.So I'm only playing him if I go Daniels.I don't think I'm going Daniels, because I don't think they're going to be pushed enough.You're spending a lot, and Terry's expensive.
But Earthsy, I'm totally in on Earths.Two tight end builds, he's fine.Birthday merits him.Outside of last week, touches have been good.But then Noah Brown, too.Talk about another, like, I guess we even need more pivots out with McMillan there.
He's in the shepherd a bit.4,300 Noah Brown, wide receiver two on this team, fair price tag.I'm in on him as well, but just one offs, Washington stuff.
If you don't have Eckler in your build, I mean, obviously you could play both.It's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying, but if you were stuck on the shepherd thing and you got 200 bucks to kick around with, you know, you don't just have to go to McMillan.It was what Hoop said.It actually made it harder to figure out.That's what the problem is.
It's not that he's going to change the game.It's that it changes sort of your thought process and shepherd would have been a much better play with him.Not in very, very clearly and obvious.So I think Brown is another interesting one.
Hoop, you, I think. You might have different takes on this game.So give me your thoughts on the commanders, especially the Daniel side.We talked about Zach Ertz being the birthday boy and then anything on the Steelers side at all.
I've got some takes for sure.
Yeah, I mean, definitely interested in the commander side.I think, you know, uh, Brian Robinson being ruled out big boost to Austin Eckler.I think he's a fine play and like title said, probably the cheapest I want to go at running back today.
And he's a totally adequate play.Uh, I do like the Jane Daniels stuff.You can do a lot of things.You compare them with Eckler, obviously.Um.
you have cheap pass catchers to go along with them, like Noah Brown at 43, Ertz at 38, really like both of those plays, and they're cheap enough where if
McDaniel or if Daniels does a majority of the stuff on the ground like those guys don't need to absolutely go off at 43 and 3800 so that's part of the reason I like Daniels it's cheap and then you have an unowned guy in Terry McLaurin at 73 where he's coming in at like no ownership whatsoever does definitely looks overpriced and
But I'm in on him, but I'd only play him if you are playing Daniels.Like I like him in the Daniels team.So Daniels, I can stack a bunch of different ways with Ackler, with McLaurin, with Noah Brown, with Ertz.
Now the problem for sure is the run back because I don't want to play anything on the Steeler side and I won't be playing anything on the Steeler side.So I'm looking for commanders to win like 35 to 7 or something crazy like that.
All right, I got the one we can clip it after.This is the one to try and convince you and change your mind.So $3,000 in this game is the Steelers' defense, the exact same price as the Bears at one-tenth of the ownership probably.
Did you know that Mike Tomlin is Andy Reid off a buy mixed with Bill Belichick versus rookie quarterbacks.And the worlds are colliding today.The Steelers coming off a buy, going up against Washington.
I have some Najee Harris Steelers defense mini stacks because of that.And I think it's a good way to do it.It's a good way to flip it. He's it's a lot of people.
If they're playing this game, they're just playing Eckler or they're stacking the Daniel side.Daniel can still have a 20.Daniels can still be Daniels could get crushed by the Steelers D today and still be Patrick Mahomes with fantasy points.
That's how good he is.So not against your Daniels takes at all.It's just to note it the exact same price as the bears. And that tidbit that I pulled this week, put it inside the slate plan, bring it to the free show now, it's all good.
But I thought that was very interesting.It's a very good sample size.I think everybody already knows the Mike Tomlin stuff about why he's one of the coaches that probably actually should still have a job.
I know he doesn't always get them over the hump, but he still comes out and finds a way to win.He puts his time in, man.That's what it is.So I thought that was interesting title.You got any thoughts on that?
Because I like Pickens there, but I'm not getting to the Wilson stuff.I like, you know, mini stack, Eckler, Pickens, Or I like this Harris Steelers D stuff.And then obviously if you go Daniels, you can put in Ertz and Noah Brown and all those guys.
Really low on, and it's really similar to your first thing you said, Stevenson and Patsy.I guess if people are watching and they're only building one team tailing you, do you have a preference on which side you'd prefer of having to pick?
Probably, probably this one.Yeah.Because the bears are going to be so owned.It's, you know, he falls in there.I just like the whole process of it.And I don't know, um, you know, anything else on the other side, but the matchup here is phenomenal.
It's not like the commanders can stop anybody with that rush.It's just everyone auto assumes, by the way, the spread is two and a half.
It's not the commanders favored by 10 at home here or something like everyone's kind of running it up as the other nice thing about it.And that's why Eckler is a good standalone play.
is it doesn't matter if I'm right and the Steelers go up and do crush.Eckler can still get there at 5,800 as well.It could just get a bunch of checkdowns and stuff.So I think that's another interesting one also.
Yeah.No, it's going to be low owned.I mean, it's, you've had a couple of combos, obviously running back defense has a little correlation is why we're mentioning it.
They get up, you run the ball more, the other team has to pass more, you have more opportunity for your defense.So it makes sense to me.
Yeah.And, uh, man, I saw Jones is having a rough day over there.Maybe we will get the drew lock birthday narrative.
It was drew lock.Yeah.How do they just not roll?Like, I just don't get stuff like this.Like you fucked up and gave this guy a big contract.He sucks at football.He's not very good or your team sucks really bad.
Like it's just incredible that they keep rolling, rolling them out there.Just shocking.
Yeah. I think, uh, I think that's the case, but, uh, let's move on from this game.Let's go to the next one.We'll go to the Titans at the chargers.So we're hitting the afternoon games.There's only three, almost 800 people watching 322 likes.So
I don't know, man.I mean, this game has been fun and good, but it's like we don't ever have to bring it up.I just think it's interesting that someone mentioned earlier today that maybe the members don't want us to show it.
I would just say that that's not the Ship It Nation way, right?Like I get it and you pay for it and all that.No one is gleaming enough off of this. to take away from your membership value.I can promise you that.
We put all the work in to try and make it as valuable as possible for you guys.But this is kind of fun, but we'll just keep it off the screen.It's okay.Title, I'll kick it to you.Titans at the Chargers.
And little bit of conversation here, I guess, because the Herbert side People are loving the Herbert spot for value, right?Ladd-McConkie, Hoop's favorite guy.We'll get there, Hoop, you'll be up next.Quinton Johnston back.
They still didn't boost him up.He's Best Buy pricing, $4,900, not even $5K.Disley, I think you mentioned this on the Cash Show this week, and I'll let you take those thoughts here, that even with Hearst back, it didn't really matter.
And then the Titan side, you know, Will Levis is back, so Chargers D. It could be an onslaught for the Chargers.Go ahead, Tyler, you can talk about this one.
Yeah, Will Levis is back.I'm holding my end of the agreement like Hoop and I'm playing nobody on the Titans because he stinks.So, easy there Chargers side. Charter side is tough because Herbert's getting ownership.
There's seven at point favorites, but like you said, he's really cheap.And I like Justin Jefferson.I like CMC.If you like Saquon, like ways to get different in that stuff is you can play Jefferson with the Herbert stuff.
What makes Herbert so interesting?They've thrown a lot more.As of late, they've been more willing to throw.Lad is getting ownership.One of the more chalky guys on the slate, very fair price at 5,900.
Quinton Johnson, though, finally coming off a monster game.He's more of a deep threat guy.Herbert's giving him chances down the sideline.50-yard touchdown, definitely in the realm of possibilities for him.
I think his ownership will stay in check there.So you can go Herbert, Ladd, Johnson. If you only pick one of them, Will Disley, yeah, like I talked about in the cast show, Hearst was back.Disley still played 68% of snaps.Hayden Hearst played 14%.
Disley's the guy.The Monday night game against the Falcons, when that was the first week Hearst was out, Disley was like their wide receiver one in that game, and I think he earned a lot of the respect.
On a slate where value's tough, Mitchell, Donnie Mitchell's 300 more. and a They are at home. Not too many are playing Dobbins.It leverages off all the chalk that way.So I'm going to be playing charters in multiple areas.Titans just tough though.
I don't, we'll let this stinks.I don't know how much they're pushing it, but yeah, Dobbins charters D, I guess, like you said, I mean, that's definitely a way to get exposure to this one.
and this is the opposite of the previous game, like it does have, uh, they're almost eight point home favorites.They do just want to jam Dobbins all day.So I'm not sure why that would be the case.
I think one of the interesting ones would be like your Darnold stacks, like a Darnold, whoever you choose with him.And then you're leveraging Jones on the, the Minnesota, Minnesota game for the low owned stack.
to then put in the low owned running back in the game later on, which is a home team.Big favorite.We're usually, this is a slam dunk spot, but hoop, I'll kick it to you.Any thoughts on that?J K Dobbins looking like pretty good leverage here.
And then, you know, tight inside pretty tough, but someone did mention a Nick Westbrook.Akina just scores a touchdown every single week.He's valued.Yeah.
The Dobbins stuff's interesting.I'm fan.Dually is going to be owned.Cause I think he has like the same price tag on fan dual and draft Kings are very similar. DK is priced up 72.There's a lot of guys but man it does make sense.
This could be a Dobbins Chargers defense game I love love that stack especially for handbill if you're just running on an optimizer you probably don't get a lot of that but that makes a ton of sense because Herbert's getting ownership and it's not because people like Herbert it's because Herbert's 5200 and
Salaries tight mcconkey's 50 mcconkey the donkey.I'm sticking with the nickname.
It's bit me in the ass I am playing him today, but we have to stick with mcconkey the donkey at this point under 6k Quinton Johnson coming off the big game under 5k this Lee 3100 That's why Herbert's getting ownership Herbert's not getting ownership because people necessarily like Herbert in this passing game It's because it's cheap and we need the value.
So how do you leverage off that you go to it overpriced running back in Dobbins and overpriced defense in the chargers when everyone's going a little cheaper.So whoever made that call, I think it's a phenomenal call.
Now in terms of the run, I am playing Herbert for the record, like at 52, just because I have to with what I'm doing with my teams.On the Titan side, I'm good with Calvin Ridley at 57.
I mean, a lot of targets, I mean, coming from Will Levis, the targets aren't all that desirable, but I think it's like 12 and eight in the last two.I mean, it just has to, or 50 or not, so eight, nine, 15, eight, of a Westbrook, Aquino.
Every time.It's crazy.You see that six go up for the Titans, and it's this dude.I'm not playing it, but man, it is interesting.
to a The more we grow, the more we show.It's a win-win for everybody.So just got to keep that in mind.
And then it's obviously better for everything we do over at the site as well, if you are a member, for your experience and what you get to go with that.So yeah, poor Hoopster, the old Dak jersey.
You're supposed to be lighting that on fire when you do the shoeie, I thought.
Yeah, it's all going to come.Yeah, it's going to all happen at once.All right, let's put it that way.It's all going to happen at once.And Dak, man, that's... Although, are we talking about this game?
Is that the game that's up next?No, we're saving that for last.And apparently the chat might be saving it for last as well for the stone, because still 15 shy.So we'll see if they can pull it off as you kick this one off.
But we are on to the Jets at the Cardinals.
Uh, yeah.So I'm going to be in, I think on the Aaron Rogers stuff for the first time, all season, like they haven't played my homes all season.I'm playing him.Haven't played Rogers all season, which I guess isn't all that crazy.
Cause they bet on showdown or, uh, Island games, basically all year long, but 5,700 for him has a good connection with Garrett Wilson.Obviously a good connection with Devante Adams.Um, the price looks good.
There are guys on the other side that I feel comfortable running it back with.Um, Briece Hall's, you know, and I can't even say popular now because again, he's another guy that's going to be affected by the Christian McCaffrey stuff.
A lot more people are going to go to McCaffrey.Uh, so Briece Hall's ownership has to come down a little bit, but yeah, and he's going to get some ownership.
So I liked the Rogers to Wilson, the Rogers to Adams, not going to mess with really any other part of the stack.It's just a clean stack for me.Rogers with one of those guys, you know, Conklin. not all that interested.
I prefer the other cheaper, uh, tight end.So for me, it's very clearly Reese Hall, strong play Aaron Rogers to either Wilson or Adams, very strong play.And I'd say pretty, pretty damn cheap.
The runbacks, you get James Connor who in competitive games just gets all the work, uh, and kind of cheap.You know, we've talked about, there's a lot of guys in the upper sevens now into the AK range in play.
James Connor, 6,500 right there with DeAndre Swift, fine option.Trey McBride, where a lot of people are probably trying to save a little bit at tight end, fine run back.And then Marvin Harrison is the one guy I'm still deciding on.
It's probably easier to play him on FanDuel.The 64 on DK is a little more difficult, but if I'm gonna be heavy on the Rodgers stacks, I probably have to include Marvin Harrison as well.
to a This could be the game, man.This could be the spot.And, uh, yeah, I got some thoughts, but I'll let you go first.Jets at the Cardinals.Hopefully we can round it out.
Everybody can get the stone because a lot of stuff to talk about on the stone for this game specifically.
I like it, for sure, but what, and as Hoop was talking, it almost made me like it a little less, is he's right, and it's so obvious on who to stack with him.Rodgers, Devontae, Garrett-Wilson.
So of the 11% Devontae, Garrett-Wilson, Rodgers are all coming relatively the same, like what, are 9% of those teams built the exact same and going that?And then half the teams run back Conor, half run back McBride?I don't know.
I don't know if I'm overthinking a little. That Corley dude doesn't even know how to hold on to the football across the end zone.Like, it's literally just those two.Now, it does leverage off of some Brees.
You can play Brees with Rodgers and play one of them.So there is different ways to do it, because Brees can catch the ball to the backfield.
So I'm going to play it, but I'm a little more, like, seeing this, Rodgers and this stuff, be like five, six times more higher on the Kirk Cousins stuff.I just, it's not my favorite stack.Let me just say that.But I do like it.
It's just, it's so obvious how to stack it.Brees. I'm definitely going to be playing some.He projects really well.The game log the past two weeks, not good.Fumbled in both games with Devontae back.
Maybe that's a little less receptions from Brees because if Rodgers' first look of Wilson isn't there, probably it is with Devontae, etc.So he falls down the target tree a bit. I like him, but man, you can't get running back wrong.
CMC's there, Bijon's there, Kamara's there, that 6K is good.So I think I prefer Rodgers in the passing stuff more than Brees if having to pick.Other side Cardinals, really easy for me, just James Conner, Trey McBride.
I'm not playing Harrison, he'll be really low on, but I'm not playing Kyler.That's how I would get to that stuff.So easy, just Conner, McBride, run backs on that side.
Shout-out to Ryan s everybody's hero got there with his eighth account.That's what it's all about baby burners.He got it covered So we made it we hit the 400.We appreciate everybody.Obviously, like we said helps us out a ton It's easy to do.
It's free supports us.So thank you this one if you haven't seen the stone That's why it's important.We bring this up where I'll do my little breakdown here, but we got it targeted as a sneaky game and
And I know what Rob is saying, I know what Tidal is saying, and I also know why.Because if you go look at the Sims, Sims are pushing this game, and they want you to go to the Jets, and we have partnerships with the Solver.
If you're a Solver member, you can go over and check their Sims out.I always look at this stuff.It's not necessarily what I'm using, but just to say, like, as a piece of the puzzle, if you will, it most certainly is.So it is wanting to put that more.
I think the most interesting thing, though, is this, the Brees Hall stuff. He's already in a good spot.Everyone says he's popular and loves him, but now you got to, like, we just can't have them all.It doesn't make any sense.
Like if CMC is getting even more steamed up, people are playing Camara and B. John Robinson, all these other running backs that we mentioned in the slate, leverage on this guy, getting some of that guy, all these, Aaron Jones, all of these, how can he just be super owned?
So even if there is late steam on Rogers, Wilson, Adams, two things, one, maybe get some more Brees Hall in there.Two, put Brees Hall in with Aaron Rodgers.But three, back to your point, Title, I think you can still get away with it.
Because of all those other options I just mentioned, even though your main stack sets, it's not even the last week, like a lot of those Geno stacks were Geno, Geno, JSN, Lockett.And Lockett only got you 15 and wasn't even needed.You could have that.
You could have Rodgers be needed.One of Wilson or Adams have the big game and the other guy have 18 points and you're still in the mix.But there's so many other ways to go after that.Double tight end lineups,
that don't involve anything from this game.Don't run it back with Arizona.Like there's a bunch of different ways that you can still play this game.Obviously an amazing spot here against this past defense.
So that's what people are looking at, but we got big time numbers on these guys and there is room back to our, the more you grow, the more you show there, there's more room for these guys to grow and they'll still show at pretty good leverage.
So I think that's certainly another thing that you could look at.I think it's fine.You don't have to force the Conklin play in or anything like that.
If you don't want to Gibson, those guys, if you want to play some in an MME or something, I love that. You pick one between Wilson Adams and throw in a Conklin that you have to fill up the spot or a Gibson and just risk it.
But that's how I get to Harrison Jr.and McBride and those guys.James Conner, I obviously like on the other side.And then Hoop, you said it best for Harrison.For me, that's on FanDuel, right?400 bucks more.
But Hoop, do you want to add anything else with everything we just went through here or anything else you can see on this game after talking through it?
Uh, yeah, I mean, I still like it.I mean, I think it, I think it's a good appealing game, uh, in terms of like the ownership stuff, it's still, yeah, all these guys are getting a little bit like Rogers, the 12, the wide receivers 13.
But then when you actually look at the people that are the percentage that are going to be pairing them together and then a run back on the other side, the numbers really start dwindling down.
So, uh, that would be, I guess, the counter to it being popular and obvious.
Yeah, we'll get to this in a second.This is simply not true.Like I just said, I explained it.He can't be, even if he's 15, 16%, 85 out of every hundred aren't playing him at all.That's not your donkey chalk.It's a, it's a spot that you can get to.
It's a great matchup.He can get there through the air on the ground.There's a ton of different ways.I'm not saying he's the best play in the slate.I'm just trying to say
you know, what people have confused as Alvin Kamara at almost 30% would have been donkey char that that's where you could call it that.But again, you don't play donkey chalk unless you do or until you do.
So it can still get there just to note as well.
But I definitely don't think Greece fits that if the passing stack is picking up steam, the CMC ownership pulling away, Kamara still getting it, Jones still getting it all these other guys, there's a ton of ways you can go within this game.
So I do think this is a good spot. Last game on the slate title.If nothing else to add there, you can take us into this last one.It is the Eagles at the Cowboys and Dante popped in to say Saquon is the best running back play on the slate.
Certainly something to talk about there to kick things off.
First of all, what do you think Hoop does once a week when he turns off his camera for a minute?Any guesses?
We got to save that for the next giveaway in the future.
Yeah, that's a good giveaway topic.And I don't know if I want to see some of these answers, I'll tell you.I definitely want to see them.
You got a giveaway with titles, so I got to get a giveaway with Hoop with people guessing.
Yeah, easy for me.Saquon.Saquon and nothing else.CD and AJ Brown, of course.Could they get there?If I'm spending up at receiver, I'm going Jefferson.It's already hard to get up at receiver like we talked about enough.
If that's how I can get my 15%, it's not partly playing any CD or AJ Brown.Big boy favorites, 7.5.Cooper Rush is there.Cowboys, ain't looking great for them.In a dome, division game.
Yeah, it's hard to not say Saquon's the best running back play on the slate.Obviously, Kamara is, but a little pivot like Saquon, still under 10% because the CMC, Kamara, all these other plays.I like Saquon.We'll see how much I'm able to get to him.
He's expensive.I like Jefferson.I like other guys, but it's really just, and you can go Eagles D too.So I guess Saquon, Eagles D, but that's, that's it for me.I'm not playing any Cowboys.I'm not playing Hurd stuff.
Does he get to the one yard line a million times to get in?I hope not, but just Saquon.
Cooper Russian CD lamb bury me whatever.
Yeah, I'm on like it sucks cuz it could be a thing He definitely throws to him a lot all of that He's cheap 5100, but I'll be getting to my Jefferson shares up before I do that So we'll have to see how it goes I think the Eagle side would be the way to go here and more interesting like all his weapons back with hurts Everything rolling out there.
You got Goddard.You got a G Brown.You got Devante Smith.You got Barkley It's just you know, really good spot um, for them to beat up on the Cowboys, definitely possible.They're almost eight point favorites, even on the road, still a pretty big total.
It's just expensive.That's where the challenge lies.And we talked about that with Jefferson and other guys earlier, but hoop kick it to you.
And I will say when we, when we add the, you know, shut up to our guy Shalhoub, big NHL night, that by the way, he's in the NHL streets now, huge NFL week, uh, last week, but he said, I'd never seen Batman and hoop.
We're not picking winners today, but no grandma wheelchair jokes or lawn care jokes will win.You can say them.I know they're going to come up, but Hoop's not picking the winner on this one.We'll pick it and I'm not giving credit for the old jokes.
You touched on it a little bit.The guy that said he had his grandma hit the like button, wheeled grandma off.He did, I was dying.
It's all subtleties.You got to come in with just the little ones that still hit, but you got to have new swings to them, right?You got to have new specialties.
It was a good, it was a good one.I can't remember the origin of it, but it was it's quality, quality entertainment.Yeah, it's a great play.I mean, we know what he's capable of in these games where they're projected to score points.
They're, they're highly favored, which they are here. Great play and again with McCaffrey's ownership likely going up, Saquon's is probably coming back a little bit.So that makes it even better for the Saquon play.
Phenomenal play on the slate where salary is pretty tight.But man, Jalen Hurts 2%, AJ Brown 1-2%, Devonta Smith 1%, Goddard under 1%. I'm playing 150 teams.Like I have to have some of that.Like I have to have some of that.
And it's difficult to play, so most people aren't going to do it.And that's why the ownership is where it's at.Like if you play Jalen Hurts with AJ Brown, you're immediately strapped for cash, immediately strapped for salary.
But I will be forcing some of that in today.You know, if it's not, they're going to score points.And if it's not Saquon, it could be Hurts to Brown, Hurts to Smith, Hurts to Goddard.I'm in on it.
Again, it's not going to be like I'm playing 10% Jalen Hurts stacks, but I will have some. And I mean, those ownership numbers are like insane.And I get it, I get it because it's tough, but playing 150, I have to be in on some.
Nothing on the Dallas side, if it beats me, it beats me.
And I will say though, in terms of winning the football game, I've said this over the course of the last couple of seasons, Cooper Rush is really no different than Dak Prescott when it comes to winning an actual football game.
Fantasy-wise, much different.We've been on Dak, he can get there fantasy-wise.But in terms of winning a football game, this could potentially be an upgrade for Dallas, to be honest with you.I expect them to keep, it's no joke, I expect them,
to keep this thing closer than if Dak was in.So am I playing Cooper Rush today?Hell no.Am I playing CeeDee Lamb?Probably not.
But when it comes to wins and losses, and these Dallas people have been on me for years, Cooper Rush is no different than Dak when it comes to winning football games.
Yeah, the thing is like it's not just a report cards or anything Like we're talking for two different sides here now because DFS plus that like you nailed it like the way you broke it down your DAC stuff In the past was always the same not on them as a great real-life quarterback, but in fantasy you can make it happen Certainly think that's possible.
But if the Eagles lose this game, I know it's a division game It's always a battle between these two teams, but completely embarrassing obviously like for it's no secret.This is a spot They should just smash so back to the original point
Barkley was already going to be low owned.He's going to be even lower now with the CMC news.You already had Camara and that, and that was my thing earlier saying about like the Camara thing.
The reason that would get put in the donkey chalk category when you break it down is because as much as his spot is really good and they're at home and it's Atlanta and all of that, when you're comparing it, this spot is actually not much worse.
It's only 200 bucks more.And it was like one third or one quarter, the ownership in just a solid of a matchup, pretty optimal, high leverage, all these things where it's a guy that can really break a slate.
And we've seen Barkley do it already a couple of times this season.It wouldn't surprise me if he does it a third.So I like the call.If you want to put them with the Eagles D, you could do that.
They're sort of in between where people are landing at 25 to 24 to 3K, Or going up to 37 3800 with the um, the vikings and the chargers.So I like that call as well title Anything else with this one title that you want to add?
I mean not much else for me, but that's just sort of the breakdown on this one Yeah, no, i'm just I I totally get like if you want to go hurts aj brown or hurts smith I would just go hurts and pick one of them or hurts god or whatever because it's real I don't know how you know hurts brown smith on a slate like this with salary, but I can't it's just one.
Yeah, just definitely one And Kurtz gets the tush push, one of them go like, clear a path, but it's expensive.I'm just going to go the Saquon stuff in this game.You can go Eagles D and call the day, so nothing more to add.
You got to almost go like a Hertz Goddard only.And then maybe you could get lamb on the other side if you really wanted to do that.But it's like Hertz Goddard, maybe double tight end with Goddard.And that's what makes it work.
So you could fit AJ Brown.And then if you want to run it back, you could take a chance on like a Tolbert or maybe a Brooks who might've played more with rush.
But that's the whole point of why nobody's on it because I just explained why everyone said that's horrible.Yeah.Everybody feels the same way.That's why nobody is clicking it.So, um, that's the tough one.Go ahead.
I was just gonna say, Justin must be new to the show.Am I crazy to think MVS is a heck of a value play?No one talking about him, but he's one of a few options for cars.Must be definitely new to the show.
We appreciate you tuning in, but man, MVS fucking sucks at catching footballs.I get it, but man, he's so bad.He is so bad.
He's cheap, he'll be on the field.If you want to play him, it's not the worst on this.Play him on the early slate.
Title with the politically correct answer.That's why he's here.
There's just no value, but he did.
Did I hear politics?No, I'm just kidding.
Get it rolling.And no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do this, Jake, just because of their prices and like the gold line equity of them getting in is usually just Hertz or Saquon with the stuff.So I wouldn't do that.And good.That's the news we expected.
Yeah, that's that's good.That's good that we get that news and Mac Collins.I think probably Curtis Samuels a little bit of a necessity now on the slate and then obviously Shakir looking looking so good.
It's the bump to if you think they run it a little more James Cook leverage.I mean, it's a it's a good slate.It's a good slip.
try to win a Millie-Macker today.You gotta switch it up.If you're trying to win the Millie-Macker, play Mac Hollins.That might be the way.So, Drake-May lineups with Mac Hollins in them.That might be the- That sounds gross.
So, anything else, Title?You got final thoughts here?Anything else you want to talk about before we get out of here?
No, I mean, I'm hoping I see a couple gritties from my dude, because 5% is pretty tasty.
Yeah, definitely.I need a couple to find his way up.I'm with you.I like that call.And I will say, I like that more than trying to make like a rush lamb or trying to get to like some of these hurts lineups.I'm playing some hurts.
So I'll just have some in the large field stuff, but it is tough to make them look good and make them rate out.Okay.So Yeah.Mayo might've been on May because the last, you know, it's one vowel off.Mayo, May, you see it?
Maybe that's what he was thinking and just law of attraction, like Hoop getting those little Jordan Humphrey sprinkles into his builds, but maybe it just might be the thing.Hoop, any final thoughts from you before we get out of here?
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