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Ah!Hi, welcome to episode 124 of Creepy Soup.Fucker.I'm the mom.
Consolation prize.You're like the participation trophy that everyone gets for participating.
I love you.Love you too.Let's see.
Nothing new going on in my life.My life kind of sucks at the moment.
Yeah.Let's see.The last episode, Jason was on.
So... Yeah, we've had Halloween.Tell them what the kids win is.
The black-eyed kids.I thought it was perfect.
Yeah, we just did the episode and that one, oh my God, looks so much like Jackson.That was pretty funny.
Yeah.Me, I'm just working.Got a little extra long weekend this weekend.Yay.I'm excited about that.I bought an Amazon mystery palette today.Two of them, actually.They were buy one get one free.What?Yep. Huh?What?What'd she say?No.
She said she wants to go in on one together.
Who else?I don't know.You already went in on one.So off camera is Judy's friend Liz.
Um, they're going out after.
So there's a lot of cool things on the palette like the bed topper and stuff.
Yeah, which is like Nice I Think the first thing I got excited about because Every morning either dad wakes up and the sheets are off the bed and around his face or the opposite morning mine, so there was a queen-size fitted sheet with straps.
Well, there goes my plan to suffocate the fucker.
You said on camera that's premeditated now.What?I didn't say kill him.We talk about true crime.Seriously.Come on.Don't be dumb.Think that shit.
I didn't say kill him.I said suffocate him.Same thing.Can he still breathe? After he passes out.
Do you know the definition of suffocation?
After he passes out, not long enough for him to die.I wouldn't admit to that on camera.
I have.She did fall off of a bed once.And I don't know if she landed on her head.But it would explain a lot, wouldn't it?So, but I think my favorite thing, I'm going to show it, that Most of the stuff we're gonna sell, because there's a lot.
But, of course we went through and grabbed things that we wanted, right?Most people would, when they get a pallet.Like, ooh, can I give this to someone as a Christmas gift?I got this baby.Ouch, ooh, that hurt my back.I'm too old for this.
Isn't it pretty?And that's the shade.It's pretty.I liked it.
I know, it looks old and Victorian.I like it too.
And even my neighbor Tracy, she was like, you keep staring at it like you're in love with it.I said, I am.I am. So then I ran at home and I was like, can I keep this?And dad says, where are you going to put it?Of course, that's his first question.
I'm like, I'll put it in the spare bedroom, which is in here.I don't care.But I got to have it.So he's like, fine, you can have it.So I was giddy.
I was giddy.Um, so yeah, I got the pallet.Um, my job is going away probably Tuesday.So I'm a little bummed about that.But, um, I mean, I'm still employed.Yay.
Well, no one wants to work.We have to work.There's a difference.My allergies suck ass a lot.
You did try it, didn't you?
It's because Liz told me to.
I'm not sure I'm eating anything.Fucking germs on my vape.Nasty little troll.
Yes, I did try it, Mom.I'm sorry.That's good.I should have asked.
I think I'm going to go buy one late tomorrow.
Yeah, I think that's about all the Oh, real quick, um, Monday is Dan's birthday, so we have to shout out Dan.Dan the motherfuckin' coffee man.He knows, he knows what I'm sayin'.
We love Dan.Happy birthday.Oh, I should've worn the my little we love Dan shirt.
I'll wear it Monday, for sure.
Yeah, so to support him, his birthday, everybody go to the store and buy We Love Dan shirts.
Yeah, that'll work.I like that.And that's pfccreepysoup.printify.me That's a whole lot of stuff.Yeah, and there is the Holiday Shop. which is, I believe, PFC Holidays.Hold on.It's on my phone.It's on my phone.
But that, I think, is... PFCholidays.printify.me and he's got some really cool stuff on there.They're scented candles.I'm just giving you a little rundown.Socks.T-shirts.Pajama bottoms.Christmas coffee mugs.Christmas tree skirts.Christmas stockings.
Wrapping paper.And all the different shows. Wrapping paper, it's just a wrapping paper More Christmas stockings If you like the buffalo plaid they do have The buffalo plaid tops
And you can either get it in the black and white Buffalo or the red and white Buffalo Well, they have all over print stockings Christmas tree skirts Christmas tree ornaments Pajama sets.
Sixty oh that's a woman's satin satin Tablecloths hoodies flannel shirts and And I know he's adding more.Um, I know if you listen last week, um, Jason discusses that he had like over 200 items and when he went to set it to go live, there was like 54.
Yeah.So he had to redo a bunch of things.So keep watching it and they'll add more.I'm excited about the candles.Do I need any more candles?No.
You could never have enough.
But I want to.Well, some people say I can.So yeah, I think that's that.Are you ready to start?I've been ready.Okay, so I'm going to take you down a little story.Nope, that's the wrong foot.
I have two different notebooks in here.
I don't give a fuck.Um, so it all started because I don't watch things at work.As I've said before, I listen to things and I want something that I don't have to like hit.Do you want to continue watching?Because yes, I want to fucking continue.
I'm too busy.So, Um, I came across a series about the son of Sam and I was like, yeah, fuck it.Why not?Because this is one of those that I've heard about, but didn't really know a lot about.
Um, so I was like, fuck it. Well, this was actually, and of course, because I don't know a lot about it, this was a side of it I didn't know, that there was an investigative journalist who, when he started actually, was like the editor for IBM.
Like their newsletter, newspaper, I don't fucking know.He just did something with IBM. So, I'm going to start by telling a little bit about each of the victims.A little bit.Some of them had long write-ups, and I'm like, no.Not doing all that.
This information came from wickedhorror.com So the Christmas Christmas Eve in 1975 an unknown Hispanic female So apparently the killer confessed to stabbing her with a hunting knife in the Bronx She was never found a body was never found and
So it could be, did she survive and never reported it or was it made up kind of thing.Also on the same night, 15 year old Michelle Foreman, she survived the attack and kind of stayed out of public eye.And that was Christmas Eve of 1975.
So now we're going to skip ahead to July 29th of 1976.Um, Donna Lauria was 18 and her uncle had just, nasty.Um, her uncle had just passed away two days prior and her, her and her best friend Jodi Valenti, We'll wait.
Sorry.I forgot to take my pill at eight o'clock.Sorry.
Okay.Um, so her and her best friend were sitting out in front of Donna's house and, and I believe it was her car and the guy walked up, didn't say anything, just pointed the gun and shot them both.
Donna did not survive, but Jodi, who was 19, she survived, and she also stayed out of the public eye until, I believe it was 2016, when she did an interview with the New York Post.
2016, okay.Yeah, so like 40 years.
After.Next, the next victim we have is 20-year-old Carl I don't know if I wrote it down right.I don't know.He was a security guard and they were at a bar.It was like a farewell party for him. He was the next week joining the Air Force.
So he's having a farewell and while at this club, bar, whatever it was, he ran into, I know I wrote her name, Rosemary Keenan.See, as I get to the bottom of the page, my writing gets sloppier.I don't know.
And they knew each other from school, and he's actually interviewed in the documentary that I watched, and of course I didn't write the name of that down.He was interviewed, so he obviously survived.
and he was shot in the head and he in his interview he talks about how About four o'clock in the morning.He woke up and Detectives are asking him.Do you want us to call your parents?
He's like no as long as I'm home by seven my mom won't know They were like you're not going anywhere.You were shot in the head so Yeah Rosemary I She survived also.She was 18 and it was kind of ironic.
Her dad was a New York Police Department detective.But they both survived, thankfully. And then we have Donna Damasi.She was 16.
She was studying when her best friend Joanne Lamino called and they decided they were gonna go out to dinner and a late movie or movie and a late dinner.I don't remember which.All right, we're staying home.So Donna suffered an injury to her neck
She stayed in the hospital for three weeks and was released, so she survived.Joanne also survived, but she was a paraplegic.Next we have Christine Friand. She was 26.She was originally from Austria.
She graduated from high school went to Austria to do Something see again.These were really long Like write-ups, I wasn't writing everything.I'm not copying word for word, right?
So her and her boyfriend, John Deal, who was 30, and these seem to be like the oldest of the victims, these two right here.
They had plans to go see a movie, and he was working as a bartender, and he was kind of like a, I didn't write this down, but he was like getting ready to be signed to like Wilhelmina, which was a very popular modeling agency in the 70s and 80s.
And he had saved enough money that he was going to propose to her on Valentine's Day, which was just two weeks later.Christine didn't survive, but John did.
Next we have Virginia Vazgarichan Sorry if I fucked that up She was 19.She was described as pretty popular She was a dedicated student and she worked at and this and if you're gonna work in retail This is like the dream job to work at a duty-free
You know what a duty free is, don't you?No.Duty frees are in airports or sometimes they stand alone and they are at either side of a border.Um, like there's Canada, there's one going into Canada and one coming back from Canada.
Like, and it's weird, like you can't go in, Okay, if you go into the one that's going into Canada, you can't come back into Michigan.It's weird.So, like, if you go in, you have to continue going into Canada.
And if you go to the one on the other side, you have to continue into Michigan, you can't go back into Canada.It's very fucking weird.But... Do you remember when someone used to bring me cartons of cigarettes?And they were super cheap?
And he would also bring them for... I'm sorry, I'm stumpy, guys.For Elaine and her boyfriend.
Anyway, he would get those from the duty-free and because instead of paying like, I don't even remember what they were at the time, but I know going to the duty-free, they were like 12 bucks a carton.And I think duty-free means no taxes.
There's like no taxes on them.
Why can't they just say that?
Because, I don't know, duty-free sounds better than tax-free. No, I don't.As a business name, yes it does.You're stupid.Okay, so she worked at a duty-free.Oh, and I'm sorry.I wrote down all the attack dates.I'm fucking so sorry.
So Donna Lauria and Jody were attacked on July 29th, 1976. Carl was attacked.
I don't think I wrote that one down Oops Donna de Massey and Joanne Lomino Didn't write that down Christina and John were attacked on January I know one of them was like October 23rd.I Son of a bitch.What, Ro?I should be fired.
Christine and John were attacked on January 29th, 1977.Virginia was attacked on March 8th, 1977.Alexander Esaw, he was 20, tow truck driver, Um, Alexander picked up his girlfriend, girlfriend, Valentina, who was 18.Valentina, not teenia.
What the fuck?Where's a heart?
Shots were fired into their car, um, and they were 18 and 20 and neither of them survived.Um... Judy Placido was 17.She was partying with friends on June 26, 1977.She was shot in the head and she made a miraculous full recovery.
Also in the attack was Salvatore Lupo.He was attacked while helping Judy. I guess they were walking together or something.They didn't really give a clear picture.But they had just been talking about the son Sam murders just prior to being attacked.
Now at this point, because everyone being shot at is being shot at with a .44 caliber, so the news at this point had dubbed him the .44 caliber killer.Very catchy.
Next we have Stacy Moskowitz was 19 She was headed out on a date with Robert Volante who was 20 They had just bet a few days prior to this they were going out on the first date and
They went to dinner and they went out on July 30th and of course it goes into after midnight so July 31st.This to me sounds so fucking wholesome and it's so sad.
They went to dinner to a movie and they went to a park and they played on the swings until the early morning hours.
They were attacked. Stacey did not survive and John did, but he lost an eye.Yeah.Um, so now the first clue at this point that leads to David Berkowitz, who was arrested as the son of Sam, was a parking summons issued and
He was from Yonkers and this was Brooklyn and I don't know how New York works.
I've never been there never been interested anything like that, but so There's the summons and there's actually like this documentary shows the check that he wrote to pay for the ticket and all this other shit Where he signs the check and everything so
This detective calls the Yonkers Police Department to see if they know anything about him.Well, the dispatcher that answers the phone... Okay, don't laugh.
Don't tell me not to laugh, because you know I'm probably going to laugh.
Her name was Wheat Carr.Wheat.Wheat.Wheat Carr. And she was like, oh, I know him.He's our neighbor.He lives behind us.And he shot my dad's dog.Lovely fellow.
Yeah.And her father's name is Sam Carr.Keep that in mind, okay?Put that in your brawl. Oh!Oh!
Where do you think I'm going with this?
South of Seattle.Father's name is Seattle.Bada bing, bada boom.Oh, that's a New York thing.Good.Good on you.Okay. See, you're not completely stupid.
Okay, so David Berkowitz is arrested.
police are celebrating and the one guy in the documentary says like there was absolutely no alcohol obviously allowed in the precinct but they were about to break that rule and they were going to celebrate someone gave him a couple hundred dollars to do so and then it said for years that police would go into bars and never had to pay for drinks because you know
So and of course a lot of people were celebrating But then some people started and this is where I'm gonna get into some screen shares.
So bear with me people Bear with me a little bit We're gonna get into some of these screen shares You dumb bitch me So, okay, so
I'm going to give you the whole, yep that's the word I'm looking for, the whole different lineup of sketches and this is where people were kind of
kind of confused at where, like, in this lineup is a picture of David Berkowitz and he looks like none of them.Like, that's David Berkowitz.And these are the other ones.
I mean, the first one kind of does.
That looks like Bobby Hill. That does not... Okay, so there's four other pictures and not a single one of them.In my opinion, none of those look like David Berkowitz.And there are other... We're going to stop sharing for a moment.There are other...
there are other okay there's this one okay now let me show you a picture of John Carr actually his name is John Wheat Carr their parents must have had something with that name because that's not a normal name to give anybody so that is John Wheat Carr and
I mean, I could see some of them having resemblance to him, right?
So, peek again.That's him.Okay, we're going to stop sharing.And then there was another There was another police sketch that they really didn't publicize much, but it was out there.Okay.That is John's brother, Michael.
I don't know if his middle name is Wheat.I don't. I don't, but yeah, that looks pretty similar.But now in the same that you could kind of say that maybe does a little bit resemble David Berkowitz, but I think it resembles this guy more.
We put that down.Oh, look at it up.Okay.All right.So now we're going to stop sharing that. And also during this time there was some letters that had went out to I don't know if he was a Captain or what the hell he was a detective, but he was also I
Okay so I'm going to go over this.So the letter says, I am deeply hurt by your calling me a women hater.W-E-M-O-N. I am not, but I am a monster.I am the son of Sam.I am a what?I am a little brat?When Father Sam gets drunk, he gets mean.
He beats his family.Sometimes he ties me up in the back of the house.Other times he locks me in the garage.Sam loves to drink blood.Kill, commands Father Sam.Behind our house, some rest.Mostly young, raped, and slaughtered.
Their blood drained, just bones now.Papa Sam keeps me locked in the attic too.I can't get out, but I look out the attic window and watch the world go by.I feel like an outsider.I am on a different wavelength than everybody. Else.
Sorry, there was a page separator there.Programmed to kill.However to stop me, you must kill me.Attention all police.Shoot me first.Shoot to kill or else.Keep out of my way or you will die.Papa Sam is old now.
He needs some blood to preserve his youth.That is so lame.He has had too many heart attacks.Too many heart attacks.What?Ug me. Something that hurts sunny boy.
I miss my pretty pins princess most of all she's resting in our lady's house But I'll see her soon.I am the monster Beelzebub the the chubby the chubby behemoth I I love to hunt.I love to hunt prowling the streets looking for fair game, tasty meat.
The women of Queens are two pretty, I don't know, this is crazy, are two pretty, prettiest of all. I must be the water they drink.I live for the hunt, my life blood for Papa.Mr. Borrelli, sir, I don't want to kill anymore.No, sir, no more.
But I must honor thy father.I want to make love to the world.I love people.I don't belong on Earth.Return me to Yahoo's.I know this isn't funny.I know it isn't funny.I don't mean to laugh.
Because I feel like whoever wrote this was deeply disturbed, obviously.To the people of Queens, I love you and I want to wish all of you a happy Easter.May God bless you in this life and in the next, and for now.I say goodbye and goodnight.
Police, let me haunt you with these words.I'll be back.I'll be back. to be interpreted as bang, bang, bang, bang, ugh, yours and murder, Mr. Monster.And this part of the letter was not published.I'm going to skip that part.You can go back and look.
And this is from I think Murderpedia.Yeah, Murderpedia.com.So what I want you to pay attention to is here are the names to help you along.Forward them to Inspector for use by NCIC.
The Duke of Death, the Wicked King Wicker, the 22 Disciples of Hell, John Wheaties, No, think about it.Rapist and suffocator of young girls.P.S.JB, please inform all the detectives, writing the slings, working the slings, something.
I don't know, it's very hard to read.I'm gonna stop sharing that right now because I'm gonna get to another part.But one of the things that's very important is if you pay attention to the handwriting.
So if you're watching this either on Spotify, I don't know if the other platforms have video capabilities like Spotify does now, or on YouTube.
It's like pretty basic sloppy block writing That's how I would interpret it So anyway long story short this Maury Terry the journalist kind of gets a hold of this and What happens if he wants to interview Sam Carr?
Because now his name has been thrown into it.So back in the old days, there was no Google.You had to actually look at a phone book and there was a listing for John Wheat Carr at the same address as Sam Carr, his son.So
basically what Maury Terry eventually does is he he believes that David Berkowitz, Sam Carr, nope not Sam Carr, sorry not Sam Carr, John Carr, John Wheat Carr and Michael Carr are all part of the same cult that Charles Manson was
yeah and look I didn't while I'm working I can't take notes and I tried to remember this stuff the best I could and they actually do in the documentary a very good
like connecting the dots of how it could be possible and then there was some other dude that was murdered and all this other stuff but so
Shortly after David Berkowitz gets arrested, John Carr, who lives in North Dakota, there's something to do with a distress call.And the police get there and they hear a gunshot.
And they get into the house and John's girlfriend leads them into where he has just offed himself. About two years after David Berkowitz gets arrested Michael Carr is in a One vehicle accident that sounded like it hurt Did it hurt?Yeah.
Oh That sucks What do you want me to do kiss the blue will So once he see once I can't breathe.So open your mouth.Shut up.You mouth breather.The fuck.Drops off.Thanks.
So once Maury Terry sees the listing for John Wheat Carr, he remembers that letter and says, oh, and starts connecting the dots.They were neighbors.And there was, I don't know if it was ever confirmed, but rumors that the father, Sam, was, um,
violent with his family.Again, there was rumors and a lot of people who lived in David Berkowitz's apartment building said that he was very nice.
There was one lady that said, you know, every time he would see me, he would say, hi, hello, how are you?Asked me how I was doing, kind of thing.Everybody that
like at the time they were interviewing on the news said that he was, for all intents and purposes, a nice guy.
The only person that had really at that point anything bad to say was Wheat Car, not to be confused with John Wheat Car, was talking about him shooting the dog.
And I wonder if it's the same dog because he does tell investigators, he tells the police, David Berkowitz does, that he took orders from a dog named Sam who belonged to his neighbor Sam Carr.Yeah.
And something about this dog was supposed to be like 6,000 years old or some shit.I don't know, crazy. But when he gets arrested, they ask him, are you David Berkowitz?He says, no, I'm the son of Sam, blah, blah, blah.
And again, I didn't get to write everything down.I was really hoping for some downtime.I even had my notebook with me all week, hoping we'd have a little bit of a breakdown so that I could get some note taking done.It's very hard to do at work.
It's very hard to do at work.Um, but there is in one of the episodes, one of the eyewitnesses, I don't know if it was one of the survivors.Cause again, I'm listening, so I can't see who exactly it was.
He said like the person you arrested was not the person I saw.Like he even says like it wasn't him.That's not who I described to police.That's not who I saw.And that was from one of the victims.
or maybe it was just an eyewitness, I don't remember.But he does in this documentary, and let me look at my PowerPoint.Sorry.Oh, we're back again.Okay.
Let me turn the volume down on this, because I don't want it to... Sorry, guys.
It is called... Oh, my God.I know the first episode is called, Hello from the Gutters. The Sons of Sam something into darkness.It keeps doing the opposite of what I want it to do.The Sons of Sam a descent into darkness.That makes sense.
So basically Maury Terry and he wrote a book and it was one of the things I didn't realize until later into listening to these episodes that he did write a book.Um, it is, if you have a subscription to audible, it is included in your subscription.
So it is a free book.It is called the ultimate evil.Um, The Search for the Sons of Sam, and that's by Maury Terry.I have started listening to it.It's so good so far.I'm not that far into it, but it's really, really good.
And the book does open with the story of a couple who are from Bismarck, North Dakota, which if you remember, that's where John Wheatcar lives. I'm just going to call him John Carr because every time I say that I want to laugh.
Um, so this couple is originally from Bismarck and the, well at the time they were just boyfriend and girlfriend.
He moves out to, um, California to go to Stanford and comes back, him and his girlfriend get married and then they both move back to Stanford. Um, and the wife is like very, very, very religious, like very.
The first thing she did when she got there to the campus was she searched out a church for her to attend.And I believe it was one on campus, I don't know, that her and her husband had gotten into a little argument.
Now they had only been married six weeks, maybe, at this point.And they're both going to the church and the wife is a little pissed off and says, I need some time alone.Let me go.
Well, other people in there just prior, I guess the church locked its doors at midnight.Um, just prior to the doors being locked, there was witnesses that saw Sandy hair man go into the church.
But no one ever saw the wife come out or this guy come out.Well, it's getting late.The husband's at home.He was like feeling bad.So he goes to walk to the church.Church is locked up.
When the security guard goes in, instead of searching the building like he was supposed to, he didn't.He just yelled out, is anyone in here?No answer.Okay, I'm locking the doors.So the husband eventually calls like,
security and someone had reported noises coming from inside the church.Of course, when they went to go check it out, they just walked around.They didn't hear nothing.So no one entered.
So finally, finally someone enters the church and they find the wife, um, in not great condition. they had like the altar candles, but they have like the longer ones.
I don't remember the exact measurements of it, but one was like in between her boobs.Um, and then the longer one was inside of her.Um, yeah, not, not a great scene.And I could not imagine being a newlywed.
And the last thing that happened was you and your wife got into, it wasn't a horrible argument.It was just like, leave me the fuck alone kind of thing.Like, just let me go do my praying, do my thing and I'll be home when I get home.
And then she's found like that.That's gotta be, I don't know if that's included because that was maybe because that's where John Carr lived, if he knew her from North Dakota and followed her, was he a stalker?
I'm not quite sure why that story is included. but it is included.And they do talk about that in the documentary.So I don't know if that, that the documentary is a little more graphic than what it is in the book.
Um, but it's one of those things, you know, you start doing your work, you tune out what you're listening to and then you, you hear a keyword and you go, what?Yeah.Um, so basically what Maury Terry does,
I don't know what the hell they're all giggling about.But I imagine if dad's laughing it's funny.Who the fuck knows?I don't know.So basically he spent his entire life, the rest of his life, doing everything he could to prove
that there were other people and this is actually one of the things I wanted to do for the screen share because and I'm going to show the different writing styles so this was the letter to
the police and this letter right here was a letter that was sent to Craig Glassman from David Berkowitz.And it's not a very nice letter.I can't read the actual handwriting, but they do have it.
Says you have been chosen you have been chosen to die Craig.I curse your mother's grave.
I curse your mother's grave I am pissing on her Craig Urinating on her head your mouth is filled with cum your blood is sour You Craig Glassman are truly Saints child and now he want you by his side Come join him in death little ones Master Glassman you are a man with the power The power of darkness you are hereby ordered to
Unleash your terror it should be unleashed, but it says unleash Upon the people destroy all good and ruin people's lives begin immediately mighty Craig Where is your weapon if you don't obey these commands the commands of your father?
Then you will be punished.I swear Glassman your life will be pure hell.We will kill you We will murder you
Remember Craig that your mother the harlot the lesbian whore wants to love Your so make happy Kill some your child if you don't do as we say you will surely die a premature death your brothers and sisters Craig darling Craig Glassman was the cruelest sickest man on earth cruel Glassman cruel Glassman mean terrible cruel hateful Craig darling
Craig Glassman die Craig die okay and this is mentioned in one of the son of Sam letters about Craig so that's lovely and this is actually a picture of Craig Glassman I wonder what's in his... Nope, stop it.
He is holding the letter that he received from David Berkowitz.Now, as you can see, that handwriting does not match that son-of-Sam letter.
So, we have that.Oh, do you want to see what David Berkowitz looks like now?Probably not. Well, I'm gonna show ya.We're gonna show folks.Hello!There we go.Alright.This is what he looks like now.He just looks like Someone's silly uncle, I think.
I don't know.David Berkowitz is 71 years old.He's still alive.So if you are into audiobooks and have Audible, I don't know, maybe it's even free on Kindle if you'd prefer to read. I can look that up for you real quick.
Shit, do I even use Kindle anymore?I think I do.I don't fucking know.Okay, great.I just want to search something.
It is on Kindle, but it is $11.99.So Audible, I guess, is your best way to go because it's included.Like I said, I'm still listening.It was a very good book.But Terry, Maury Terry, actually his obsession with the case
basically cost him his marriage.His ex-wife is interviewed in this documentary.And there was also like one police officer or a detective or something that did not buy his theory at all.
But of course, you know how police are when someone starts questioning their work, they're going to be a little hostile.
He was on like a call-in show, a radio call-in show, and someone calls in and he recognizes his voice and he was like, are you Joe Coffey? That part was kind of funny.Um, but yeah, that's, it was very interesting.
Um, everything I heard, I truly believe that it does kind of point to he, I'm not saying David Burke was as innocent by any means.Um, he does admit to killing people.Um,
One thing when one of his first appearances in court the girl Stacey Stacey Maskewitz the one that died he did oh and her family was in attendance and he yells out that Stacey was a whore and he would do it again Yeah Wow, yeah, and if I'm not mistaken I
It was either one of the survivors or one of their relatives said that they also do not believe that he acted alone.They believe that there was more than one.
And at one point Maury Terry interviews David Berkowitz and he basically and who knows he could just be like appeasing this dude like to get company or I don't know maybe get out of kitchen duty or toilet duty I don't know but he basically says yes we were part of a cult so
It's a very interesting documentary.I didn't think I was really going to care.And I actually had something else planned for this episode.And once I listened to that, I'm like, no, I want to do this.
I, I personally have never heard of the theory of anybody else being involved in the son of Sam murders.So it's pretty interesting.
Keep your kisses to yourself.
See how mean she is to me?She already threatened to put me in a home.She even said she would pay extra to put me in a home where they beat me.
Have you not said that?Shady pie as well.Shady pie.
You've said that.Don't say you haven't.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I should have swallowed you.
I'm pretty sure your husband says the same thing.
Why?He's not my real dad.
That you should have swallowed.
We all say that.I say it to your face.Hope.
Okay.Nope.It hasn't stopped.It sounds like something's in there vibrating.It's weird. Oh, that's weird.Shit that happens when you get old.Sounds like there's a little truck motor inside my ear.
It does.That's what it sounds like.All right.I guess we're done.I guess.
All right.So, yeah, I think that's it. Now I'm going to ship this off to Jason.I messaged him earlier and I'm waiting for a response because I asked him a question.I want to know what size shirt he wears.
Maybe an extra large, I don't know.
I brought him candy the other day.Yeah, I know, you told me.I brought him candy. because we had talked about it in one episode.And I saw it and I'm like, I got something for myself, but I also have to get something for Jason too.Right.So, yeah.
All right.I guess on that note, we will see you next week.Unfortunately, this episode is late again.
That's our theme the last few weeks.All right.Have a good week.