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As always, I'm your host, Woody Overton.And today we're going to be beginning or have the inaugural of the new series, Hashtag Justice for in.
Y'all know the lifers that we've had the success in the past on solving cold cases using the podcast because of y'all's help.And we're going to do it again.But this is going to be the deepest dive I've ever taken into any case in my career.
whether it's in law enforcement or doing it as a podcaster and even Corny Coco's case, even though it went on for years because I went to every court hearing and every motion and everything else.
Cause I promised with Stephanie that I would, but this case that I'm going to tell you about today is absolutely horrible.Um, it's sickening and It's different.And I have the family with me today.
I'm going to introduce them a sec, but I want to tell y'all something. What we're gonna do is tell you about the victim and let the family tell you about her, et cetera.And then we're going to go into what happened.
But before we do that, I'm gonna play a 911 call from the day that changed this family's life forever, okay?And we'll play the 911 call and then we're going to Introduce the family.
9-1-1, what's the location of your emergency?
Hi, I'm at Campus Edge, 950 Hudson Road, Southeast.Some guy just came knocking on my door to my apartment saying that his wife is stroking out and hasn't been able to breathe for a few minutes.
OK.And do you know the apartment to the person that came to your door?
I do not. Got me to call and ran off to try and help her.
OK.And what's your apartment number?
Give me one second.What's your name, sir?
Uh, my name's Austin Meek.
Okay, and what's the callback number for you?
Do you know how old the person is?
And just to confirm, is she breathing normally?Do you know?
I have no idea.I don't even know where they are.I just, he came up, knocked, and ran off.
And you said you don't know what apartment he's in?Is he on your floor?
They're in apartment 312.They're in apartment 312?Yes.Give me a second.
Okay.What's going on?You okay?
I don't... She's lying on the ground.
She's lying on... Is she breathing?
Is she breathing at all, dude?
I don't know.I don't know.Try and roll her over, dude.Come on.Come on.Come on. Hey, is she breathing?
It looks like she's bleeding out of her mouth.
Come on, baby, please don't die!What the hell, no!Come on!Can you do this, baby?Come on!
Pull her shirt down.Pull her shirt down, please.
Come on, baby, please don't die!Okay, what's going on?Oh, my God, no, baby, please don't!
She's 20. Did she take any medicine?
She said her head feels like it's been caved in.
Her head?Yeah.I mean, her head looks normal.Who's with her?
There's one man. What's going on with her?Is she breathing?
She's not breathing.Her eyes are open and glazed over and she's covered in blood.
Okay, where did the blood come from?
It looks like it's coming from her mouth and her nose.
Okay, give me one second.
Can you ask the fiancé what happened?
Do you know what happened, dude?
No, I don't know what happened, but she was okay, and then she, like, died.Yeah.Yeah, she was okay, and then she, like, fell down.
He said she was okay and then she fell down.
Okay, ask him, did she take anything?
Oh my God, baby, come on, you're okay.You're okay.I think we need to get you to like a hospital.
Yeah, we got- Yeah, we have someone en route.Okay.Okay, she needs to go to a hospital for sure.
Okay, is she breathing now?
I don't know.Her head is completely... Okay, does it look like her chest is rising?
It's not... Come on, baby.Come on, baby.
Okay, give me one second.
Come on, baby.You're okay.You're okay, baby.Come on.You're okay, baby.Come on.
What's going on with her, Aiden?
I don't know.There's.There's just blood everywhere and there's actually blood spattered on the wall by the couch.
And he said he doesn't know what happened.
He doesn't know what happened.He said she was fine one minute, and then she stood up and just fell over.You're OK.You're OK.You're OK.You're OK.
OK, give me one second.Stay on the line, OK?OK.
Hold on, baby.Come on.Hold on, baby.Come on.You're OK.You're OK.You're OK, baby.Come on.You're OK.You're OK.Come on, baby.You're OK.Come on.You're OK, baby.
You're okay, baby.Come on.Don't... Don't die on me.Please, save us some money.You're okay.You're okay.You're...
Are you still there, Aiden?
I am.I'm out the fire department here.
OK, and where's the fiance?
She's there still upstairs in the room.He's trying to get her to breathe.
OK.And just to confirm, you said the blood was on the wall by the couch.
Yeah.It looks it's.I don't know.It's honestly kind of. It looks like a fucking murder scene in there.
OK, just stay on the line with me.Let me know when fire gets up there with her.
I will.Next one up 312. 312, no, up one more, one more flight.The fire department's going into the apartment now.
Okay, just stay on the phone with me until they get up there.
Aiden, are you still there?
I'm out of the way.I'm down at the bottom of the stairs.
Okay, and what's going on?
I'm not sure.I know the fire department's in there, and I know that they just It looks like they pulled a shotgun out of the apartment and set it to the side and unloaded it.
OK.Just stay on the line with me, OK?
And just to confirm, you said they pulled a shotgun out?
That's what it looked like.I can't tell from here.I know it was definitely a gun.
All right.Was it fire that pulled it out?
Yes.Yeah, no one else was here yet.OK.
Sorry, y'all.You just heard what happened.
Aiden, do you know if she's breathing?I don't.
I'm staying completely out of the way.
I can't see into their apartment from up here or down here.
Okay, Aiden, I'm going to let you go, but I appreciate you standing on the line with me.
Thank you for calling it in.
Thank you for sending somebody out.
All right, y'all, you just heard what happened.So on December 26, 2022.Right.And so I'm I'm here before we get into the story and everything that happened and didn't happen, et cetera.
I'm here, I'm in hot land, and it's actually not that hot outside, y'all.I went outside this morning, this Vegas in the 60s, and then in Louisiana, it was 79.But I'm here in a hotel room in the suite.
If the sound audio and everything is not perfect, just forgive us, right?It's a lot better than it was, than what it was years ago.But you may hear the air conditioner kick on.You may hear whatever noises, just ignore it.
And what we're here to do today is tell the story of Haley.So it's hashtag justice for Haley.Okay.And I have Barbara Johnson. Say hi.Introduce yourself.
Hi, I'm Haley's mom, Barbara.
Okay, and y'all know I'm bad with names.
Stella.I'm her sister, Stella Johnson.
Oh, Tyler, I'm a family friend.
Okay.And I want to thank y'all for coming in.Miss Barbara, you and I haven't talked for a long time, kind of hit and miss.I was Woody Overton being Woody Overton.And finally, one day you were Mama Baron, y'all
This family is amazing, and the love they have for Haley is amazing.But Ms.Barbara kept mama-bearing, kept pushing and checking in, and I was like, you know what?We're going to do this.
And so this is the first one I've done outside of the state of Louisiana, and we're here now.I know this is tough. y'all, we're going to tell you who Haley was and everything.And we'll get to that in a second.
But at the end, as we did in the past, I'm going to do a call to action episode and we'll let you know what we need to do to get justice for Haley.Okay.So miss Barbara.
Stella and Tyler.All right.So we're going to do y'all.I want to talk about Haley and then miss miss Barbie.You send me some pictures.Hey, it was beautiful.It looks just like you beautiful girl.And I know you're very proud of that.
And y'all, I'll have a post and share the pictures always.I have a baby picture all the way to soon. to close the time of her murder.I'm not calling it a death.I'm going to lay it out from the beginning.Let me say this.Ms.
Barber has provided me with more information than any case that I've ever had, more audio, even some stuff with video and everything else.And we're going to be playing these different things throughout this series when it comes to time, right?
So that was one of the determinant factors in taking this is that you had so much information and y'all, golly, the y'all, you just stick with it.You're going to be shocked.Mr. Bart, tell me about Haley.What was her date of birth?
November 30th, some November 23rd because close to Thanksgiving.
So she was born in 2001. It was right after 9-11.
Wow.People say 30 years ago.I'm thinking back to the 70s.That's only in the 90s.I was then a detective.I was 30, 31 years old.Wow.So November 23rd, 2001.Yeah.And you had her. Tell me about that.
Everybody, everybody, I don't, I want to know, but everybody needs to know she comes into this world.My, my first grand baby ever and my granddaughter's born last week, last week, right?And this potato came out and all that.
I hadn't got to hold her yet.I'm going to leave here.I'm going to San Diego, but the, tell me about that moment.
And well, um, I had her at home and so it was really nice.Um, you know, yeah, but she just had a light about her from, from the minute she came into this world.
Did you know she was going to be a boy or a girl?
Okay.So you were surprised.So she comes in a world where she's screaming mad or
She was so good.Now she did have college later.
I lived through those days too, right?
But in the beginning, she was just happy and you could see that she was trying to learn things from the beginning.
So she was very smart.People don't realize that. Everybody says their baby's pretty and stuff like that.Some of them are ugly as hell, but the, not everybody says their kids are intelligent like that.
So I talk about my granddaughter, the nurse and stuff are like saying the same type of thing.She's looking, she's searching.And they said, that's a sign of high intelligence.So Haley was doing the same thing.
Oh yeah, from the beginning.She was just inquisitive about everything.You could see her brain working.She was learning things and picking things up.By a year old, she was speaking in sentences.Really?
Not big sentences, but she was speaking in sentences.
She was just... She was a little angel, huh?She was.How did you come up with the name Haley?
Her dad's name was Harley.
Okay.All right.So that's cool.We all have, we all have those, those relationships.So we called her Haley being in the beginning, Haley being, and then what, what does she have?Middle name?It was Jade, Haley, Jade Johnson. Haley J. Bean Johnson.
So she's one year old and stumbling around and we went for a, we went on a flight, which I've never flown before.
So I was nervous and worried about everything.She was just as happy as she could be.And so we get on the plane and naturally there's eye rolls and like, Oh God, a baby.
Oh, God, he screamed the whole time.
By the end of the trip, everybody was talking to her.
Oh, shit.So just a joy, huh?So.So.When were you born?
I was born like when she was three and a half.She was still pretty young.She cut my umbilical cord.
Really?Come on.They say she was a good big sister.
She was just motherly and bossy from the beginning.
So she was excited during the whole pregnancy and everything else.And, you know, baby sisters come in.And so then you get there, you have a three and a half year old cut you up, approximately cut your umbilical cord.What did she say about that?
What did Haley mean? I, I, I'm, I like to picture it in my head.
She was so excited.Like my sister here and you know, she was there for the whole thing.Um, I think some of it was maybe a little traumatic, but she was, you know, she wanted to be there.So we let her be there, but she's wow.
And then, so from that day on, she's big sis.
Yeah, always like, you know, we had a huge group of friends and they would, you know, come over we would watch UFC or we'd have Little house parties and they would bring all their kids and Haley was just in charge She was just that way.
When she went to daycare, she would come home and put all her dolls on the floor and cover them up with blankets
Cool.Like it's nap time.Very loving life.Very just describes something else about a personality for me at that young age.And then we'll move on to when Stella remembers.
She was comforting.That's what I remember about her.She was very nurturing and very comforting.Like she just knew what to say no matter what you were going through, like what you were, you know, what you were experiencing.
She just kind of knew what to say to make you calm down and get your shit together.
But she was, she was always, um, She was just always just super inquisitive about everything, and that was through her entire life.
She always was interested in, you know, if she saw something that she was interested in, she'd research it and look, you know, and she just was always that way.
And, you know, we'd be outside and she's down looking at the bugs or the leaves or look at this or look at that.And she's very, I know all kids do that, but she was very
interested in everything that was going on and trying to learn as much as she could.
That's awesome.Right before we get to you Stella, so she goes to school, where does she, I mean, I didn't give a shit about school.I didn't until I had to pay for it myself in college and then I made straight A's, right?But I hated school.
But how was she in school?
But once I got sick, things sort of fell apart a little.
Yeah, as life happens, right?So, Stella, tell me, y'all are young kids, tell me some of your favorite memories. Let's start with this one.
Tell me the time, because every kid gets in trouble, tell me the time you and her got your worst whooping or something like that.
You may not have ever got whooped, but what's something that, not in teenage years, when you're young, what's something that y'all got in trouble for?
God, I only really, cause truthfully, Haley was a very, very good, well respect, like she respected everyone.She didn't really like get into trouble.Like, Oh, okay.We stole a cookie from her.
We did like stupid little kid stuff, but it's when we got into our teenage years that we really started to give her a hard time, specifically Haley.
I gave my parents hell, and my daddy said, we thought for so many years we were going to have to visit Woody on the cell block, and he ended up putting people on the cell block.I get the teenage years.
So teenage years come, and y'all, I guess as boys or whatever, how were they as teenagers, Mom?
Everything was great until, you know, I started my own business, and so that was rough at the start. You know, being a single mom is a lot.
And then having that pressure of trying to and so I was stressed and we were struggling and I had to work more than I wanted to.And so things sort of, you know, we had like a little turbulence during that time.Right.
And she started kind of, you know, acting out a little bit, not
Yeah, I don't think there's anybody's listen and that didn't have some kind of teenage year stuff, right?That's, that's human nature.The look, my daughters went from, from being the coolest dude in the world to the dumbest ass in the world.
And I get that.So yeah, I, well, my parents used to go to bed at like nine o'clock and nine 15.I was out the window. And to say, that's the way it was.All right, let me ask you this.Favorite food.
What is a favorite thing that you cook that you like the most?
Yeah.She loved it.I make this pasta called summer pasta.She loved that.Yeah.Corn.
Creamed corn.Yeah.I like her.Yeah.
That's cool, that's cool.Cream corn and pasta.
Yeah, Trader Joe's, she loved Trader Joe's.Pretty much everything from there.
Yeah, pretty cool place, right?
You know, we always made a big holiday dinner, so I'd always have to do the whole thing.Right.Later on, I didn't always do the turkey, but we did the stuffing and the
Does she ever help you cook and stuff or not too much?
Yeah.But now once she moved out, she started cooking a lot.
Right.It was really good.Right.Well, sounds like all American girl Stella and pretty cool.Big sister to have.
She was crazy independent.She told me from the time she was little, you know, when I get 18, I'm moving out.
I did the same thing.And that's, that's, yeah, some people, I mean, some people stay home and some don't.Right.She just wanted to be independent. Yeah.And I made her right out into the army.So she's 18.
She moves out and well, um, I back up a little bit.I got, um, sick, really sick.
Um, and so if you do, do you mind explaining that to us?Cause I heard, um, and so many materials and stuff about you being sick.And I think it is, it's important.So it was Barbara, if you don't mind, tell us about your illness.
Yeah.Well, um, I had just opened a business about six months before work and like crazy stress, look crazy.And, um, you know, but we were getting by, um, and the business was starting to pick up.Everything was starting to really look good.
One day I started having trouble walking upstairs. So it progressed and they kept saying, well, you hurt your back or whatever.But within a month I was in Emory Hospital, almost completely paralyzed.And I was there for four and a half months.
When I got home, I couldn't even if my head fell over, I couldn't even pick my head back up.
But during that time, you know, it was really hard on the girls.
And, you know, they were used to me doing everything for them and right there.And so they were having to stay with different people.And, you know, it was just really hard, hard times.So, you know, Haley had to learn to adult really quick.
How old was she had been around the 16, just turned 16.
And so, you know, she, um, She would do everything for Stella that Stella needed.She would come visit me in the hospital every night.And that was a 30, 45 minute drive.Every night.She went to school.She was helping in the shop.She just...
I don't even know how to describe how sweet she was and how much she did and how hard it had to be for her.And it was hard for me because I couldn't do anything.
But you know what?She got that work ethic and that love from you.I know that doesn't make it any easier for you.
She was above and beyond anything I've ever done. Um, you know, and, and so it was really, really hard on her and she wanted to, you know, say, uh, start homeschooling, um, after I came home so she could be there.
And I, I tried to talk her out of it and, you know, said, we'll just get somebody to come, but no, she wanted to.And so she helped me and I don't, I don't know what I would have done or if I would even be able to walk now.
I was in a wheelchair for two years.Wow. Yeah.And so she was, you know, took me to every doctor's appointment.Yeah.Um, she, you know, uh, she just stepped up and did everything.
It's amazing.She loves you, huh?Right.
And even, even after I started walking and driving myself and going to my doctor's appointments, you know, I'd be talking to her on the phone and she's, you know, I say, I've got a doctor's appointment.Would you want me to go with you?
Yeah.Well, the pretty amazing Stella. She was the best.
She was almost as much a mom to Stella as I was.
Yeah, I know you don't like it when I say that, but she was a big parental figure to me.
A lot of times, mom would have to go off to work so that we'd be able to eat.
But we'd be left with our stepdad and he wasn't the most responsible, so usually Haley had pick up and feed me and make our little cinnamon toasts and do what we could.She always made sure that I was okay and fed and happy and getting what I needed.
You can't put a price tag on that, huh?
Stella had a lot of OCD issues early on and Haley would just really nurture her through that and help her. Explain to somebody else if they didn't understand that she was having a breakdown.
And Stella, I told you earlier that I grew up with it, et cetera, but I didn't know it.Long story short, and on the diagnosis of it, you know what the doctor told me?He said, I've never met a person who had OCD that wasn't super intelligent.
So put that one in your, in your brain.You say you have it, own it.Okay.That, uh, don't let it define you.And I'm, I'm sure, I'm sure Haley would tell you the same thing. Yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty much a generational thing.Yeah.
I mean, I get mine from my daddy.So a mom might have something to say.All right.Sorry.Look, she's a wonderful girl.She's a wonderful sister, a wonderful daughter.It sounds like a wonderful person.And she, at some point meets Brooks.
What's his real, his real name? Brooks clearing.All right.So do y'all know where they met at?
They met through a Mazda was dating one of Hayley's.
And who's Masa?I'm sorry.
I said it was their best or Brooks's best friend and became one of Hayley's best friend.
Right.OK.And Mazda is a guy.Yes.OK.So basically, they got introduced to Masa. Something like that through that group.
Yeah.Right.Okay.What do you remember her telling you about him in the beginning?
I'm sure it was, she didn't tell me about him in the beginning.Um, you know, I could see that she was starting to act different.Um, not, not in a bad way, just a more rebellious way.
Um, and so, you know, she, you know, I've, I've got to run here, run there.And then she'd be gone, you know, for four hours when it was a 10 minute trip and things, right.Um, but, uh, when I first found out about him, she got arrested.
They got arrested for, um, marijuana and paraphernalia.
Right.So, I'm happy.Yeah, I can see it in the eye.That's a hell of a way of an introduction, right?So, you get a call from the jail and she says, Mom, I got arrested.Yeah.Yeah.
Well, I mean... She's already grounded and she's... It's not that they got arrested for kids.It's that Mazda and Brooks let her take the blame for everything.They didn't want to get in trouble.They were older.
Or they had something on the, they were on paper then.So they were on probation or parole, yeah.
So the, not to just interject this, one night when I was doing my private consulting, I flew all over the country and I had a hotel room in New Orleans because I was flying on a private jet the next morning to Maryland.
And I get the phone call from the sheriff's office up in and tangible and I'm not going to say who it was, but they said, is this one belonging to you?And I said, I said, yup.And they said, the sheriff said, you need to come get her.
And he said, only you can come get her.Right.And it was, it was for weed.So I get that.And then kids and kids and I missed that flight and whatever.So I had the real red ass too about it.And so what is, was she living at home then still?Okay.
All right.They get arrested together.And this first time you meet this guy, Brooks Cleary, Yes.
Right.Well, well, that's what you need.It got arrested together.
I saw him walking out of the jail.So no, I saw Mazda.Oh, yeah.I didn't see him that day.I didn't even know what he looked like.
So not too long after that, she's, you know, I guess reaching the subject of, you know, do you want to meet him or and she's, you know, I'll meet him, but I can't promise anything.
And so, Before the meeting, you know, I catch him sneaking out of her window one morning and not happy.
There's actually a picture of it.
She took a picture of him sneaking out the window.
So, you know, we had a rough start.
Right.That's how you just lay it out if you want to lay it out, because this is the chance for the listeners to.Hey, we're all human beings and those are perfect.
Yeah.So after that, you know, it was. I didn't like him, but I could see that I wasn't going to be able to get away from her.
Right.Well, and the harder probably you push and then, you know, that probably pushed her hard to him.Right.So at some point she moves out.
She wanted to spend the night there.It's progressing.So, you know, I told her, I said, you're almost 18 when you're 18, you can do whatever you want.
Yeah.It was about a month before.
And I finally, she just blew it up to the point where I said, okay, go ahead and get your taste of adulting.Right.
So she did.And they were very, um, they were both really angry at me at first.He was really angry.
Um, and why is he mad at you?Why is he mad at you?
Because I wouldn't let, I guess I wouldn't let him stay because you were being a parent.
You're being a good mom.Yeah.
They were coming to get some of her things and, you know, she and I were, we weren't really arguing, but, you know, she wasn't happy.
And I was trying to talk to her and he started, started getting in the middle of everything and cussing at me and, you know, classy. Yeah.And there was a point where I was kind of scared of him right then at that moment.
But, um, he starts screaming at you.I wasn't here for this.
Yeah.Yeah.He was, he was in a different part of the house, but yes, he was definitely.
But how tall is he?Cause that's the one thing I couldn't judge from the videos that, um, I think he's taller than me.
I think he's five 10.Okay.
All right.Anyway, he's like what?One 50, one 60, something like that.
No, no, it's just that you can say whatever you want to say. We'll get into that part too, because I want to talk to y'all about some things on that.So they move out and they moved into his mom's house, correct?
And then at some point, they get an apartment.
Well, they came back and stayed with me for a little while.I just couldn't tolerate him. The final strike, you know, he wouldn't even take the trash out.He wouldn't do anything.He didn't ask.He stayed in the room.He came out to get food or whatever.
He sent me to go get food.
He wouldn't go around the dog, so he sent me to go get him food.
Stella, you tell me when he moves in, you're happy your sister's coming home, I would guess, but he moves in.Did you hang out with him?
I would always just try to get like alone time with Haley, but obviously he was like always there and it was just like the annoying like
test on the side you just kind of let it like the but I'm also just wanted to spend time with my sister and I was happy she was there but his his behaviors were starting to really to just piss me off.
His true colors are showing.Yeah.
And I mean, I didn't like him anyway, but I tried to, cause Haley loved him.So I tried to also convince myself that like, it's fine.Like, you know, it's fine.But he just, I mean, his true colors show.
Tell me, tell me about this.And I can already tell you, but I think where they would be, but, but Um, obviously Haley was in love with him.
Right.And, and, and, but the, the way he treated her was, was he controlling or domineering, jealous?
He didn't let her wear shorts.He didn't let her have any friends, whether that was female or male.
He didn't let her wear short.
He called them a lesbian. they were just trying to get in her pants and that she shouldn't talk to them.
Really?So that's like a controlling issue, right?If I can keep everybody away from her, I can have total control.She has to depend on me.Right.
Or he's also afraid that she's going to meet someone and they're going to be like, you can do better than this guy.Right.At that time, did you ever see, hear verbal abuse or see any physical abuse?
No, it was more just controlling and the final straw at the house.Haley, I had a doctor's appointment.Half the time he would sleep till 12 or one o'clock and sometimes four and five and six o'clock.And I would have to go pick her up a lot.
But I had a doctor's appointment in Atlanta.And so she got off work and I said, well, call him, make him get up.Well, he won't wake up. I said, well, just stay there and I'll be there.And she goes, no, I'm going to walk.
That girl walked five miles home because he wouldn't get out of bed.Wow.Wow.So, um, you know, I said, and I, and I didn't just like go home and kick them out.
But I told her, I said, you can, you always have a place with me, but he, he's got the guy, right.
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He barely worked the whole time.
I saw, and we'll get into, he had some audio later on, and he was like, oh, I worked as a at the car wash, basically, that's it.Yeah, right.Yeah.All right.Right.They didn't say he had like a couple of jobs for like a month or two or whatever.
And OK, look, I'm getting ahead of myself.So then they go to stay with his mama.
Well, no, then they got their apartment.
I gave them time and they, you know, found an apartment and got their own apartment, which that's what Haley wanted all along.
Right.Let me back up the, so when, when they were living with his mom, I want to get this out there because it goes to Haley's character again.
And then we don't have to go into detail, but his sister has severe, pretty, I would say is handicapped the right word or whatever you challenge.Um,
infantile autism.I think that's what she's diagnosed with.
She's 7 years old, but she's like a 3-year-old. And then they said every time Haley would come around, even though she was like blind, right?Okay.
But so I thought somebody said she was blind, but the, every time Haley would come around, she would get excited and, and just par for the course.And so they're back with you and you tell him, Hey, he's got to go.
And then, so they go out and they could get the apartment.Is that the old college town part that first apartment?
It's the same apartment complex, but they've got the first.
They moved from the one without a washer and dryer into another one that had a washer and dryer, right?How long did they stay there for before the murder?
I think it was probably maybe two, two and a half years.And she loved her apartment.Yeah. being an adult in her own apartment, doing her own thing, cooking, decorating how she wanted to, and she loved it.I mean, loved it.
Stella, did you ever go over there and hang out?All the time.Man, I remember my older brothers and sisters got condos at LSU.I thought, oh, that's a big time.Go over there and have fun, right?Right.
I could actually. I don't think he wanted Stella to come over as much as she did.
It goes back to the controlling part.She made it very clear to him.
She told him many a time. that if it ever came down to it, that she's choosing me over him.
Yeah.Yeah.That's, that was the deal breaker.Yeah.
But she still, she still loved him.It's just, she, she chose family over him.
Right.Well, so they're been half years.That's a while.So how old were you then?
By the time she got her apartment?
Well, yeah, that's two and a half years.You're three and a half years old.So you were a teenager.
Okay.And then life goes on and the relationship, did it, did you ever, were you ever aware of any type of physical abuse or anything like that?
Toward the end we started, I mean, and she would never say he hit her or anything.She did tell us one time she came to stay at the house, um, and they were supposedly going to break up, which I was really happy about, but she said that he had
Um, she grabbed the keys to keep him from driving because he was drinking a lot and, um, he pushed her in the bathtub and she was pretty bruised up from that.
So she told me about it all.
Well, obviously it came out in sisterhood, but she one time, um, it was the bathtub time was the second time, but these were the only times she told me. I saw them fight a lot and sometimes I'd see her have something that looked like a black eye.
And it was very obvious that he wasn't being treated properly by him.But she told me many, um, two stories that really stuck.
One of them, um, she was drunk and she was trying to fight him for the keys so that he wouldn't, you know, like kill himself behind the wheel.And, um, he got really pissed and like threw her on the ground and took the keys. and then left.
And, and then another time he, he grabbed her and shook her really hard to get her to shut up.And then, um, and then walked away.
And then the other time where he pushed her into the bathtub, um, she was, I think he locked her in the bathroom and she was banging on the door trying to get out.
And then he opened it really fast and like through the door against her really fast to where she
went like she was a small girl but he was big at the time so she just went flying into the bathtub and like couldn't walk properly for like a week because her back was all bruised and that's the times that i mainly remember oh that was yeah now at the at the their mom's house at brooks's mom's house she got really really skinny for a while because um
Dana didn't have any food.
That's his mom, Dana?Yeah.
I think a lot of it was he wanted her to be skinny.He wanted her to be skinny.Yeah.She got down to like 90-something.She was skin and bones.It was bad for a while.
How tall was Hailey? She's five feet.Five feet and had to run around in the shower to get wet, huh?She's skinny at that time, right?Yeah.
But a pistol, and like you said, from what I researched, etc., she, towards the end at least, was paying all the bills.She worked.
And she was getting tired of it.She was finally starting to get tired of it.She had to go to work with COVID.She had to go to work with a broken toe because if she didn't, they would lose everything.So she was starting to get tired.
So how old was she in December 26, 2022?She had been 21 for a month. 21 for a month.All right.Y'all, we played the nine on one tape at the beginning of the episode.
And so, you know, obviously what happened on December 26, according to Brooks clearly, and we're going to, I'm going to get into each piece of that and we're going to break it down in series and episodes.
OK, y'all, you just heard the first episode of Hashtag Justice for Haley.And again, I apologize for any audio issues.
When I was with the family, because we were in a hotel room in Atlanta, it is very important that you like and share these episodes as they go on.Because in the end, we're going to do a call of action, just like we did in the past.
And, you know, it's a beautiful family.She's a beautiful girl.I have her picture on my bedside now, just like I did Courtney Coco's for all those years.
So, Haley's the first thing I see in the morning when I wake up, and the last thing I see before I go to sleep.And it's important.She's a very, very real, loving young lady who was murdered. It's just a bizarre story that how it, how it transpired.
I actually think it's some of the best legal work that I've ever seen because yeah, I can't from the detective standpoint, they did almost everything correctly and.
As the story goes along, I tell you what happened and didn't happen as far as the murder charges go, and that's what we're ultimately working for, is an indictment for the murder of Haley. Okay.
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