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I suggest you do Jonathan Peter here today He does the hilarious first day on the job point of view videos that you can see on Instagram and tik-tok and I know you've seen at least one of them his stuff goes viral all the time he's got hundreds of millions of views on some of his videos and
He was born and raised in South Africa, talks about coming to the United States and going to college here.He studied and trained to be an actor, but then COVID hit and he found TikTok.
His story is incredible, so if you're looking to become an influencer or a social media content creator, then you gotta listen to this one.He's got so many tips, talks about his process and the work he puts into his content.
He gets into working with movie studios like Sony, Universal, and Netflix, and what it's like having some of his heroes as fans, like Jamie Foxx, The Rock, maybe even Learning Tree.Jonathan's also a big wrestling fan.We met at an A.W.show in L.A.
You'll hear that story as well.So here we go, making his Talk is Jericho debut.TikTok giant Jonathan Peter starting right here, right now on Talk is Jericho.So I'm here with Jonathan Peter, and you mentioned that you're going to a soccer game.
And this is actually the World Cup?Similar, so it's called Copa America.It's basically like the World Cup equivalent, but just for North and South American teams.So it happens every four years and it's a huge deal.Big deal, right?Yeah, huge deal.
Because you're from South Africa.Is soccer a big deal there?
It is.I feel like if you ask anybody who's growing up, they'll tell you they want to be a soccer player.It's a huge deal.It keeps us entertained.In South Africa?Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.Because there's so many different classes.
You have lower class, middle class, higher class in South Africa.And a lot of the people in the lower and middle class category love to play soccer.
And it's kind of like similar to how people in America come from lower class families and want to go into the NFL to get the money, the sponsorships.It's the same thing with South Africa, right?But ours is for soccer.
It's funny too because it's like soccer is so popular because all you need is a ball.
Yeah.You know what I mean?
Like you don't have to have anything else but a ball and that's it.
It's simple.I've seen so many videos of people just coming by dropping a ball to like some kids in the village and they celebrate like they're playing in the World Cup like it's a huge deal.It's crazy.How long have you lived in the States for?
I've been out here five years now.But you don't have much of an accent at all. I'll tell you why.So I'm an actor, and I went to film school for that.
And every time I did an audition, my manager would be like, okay, we need you to cut the accent a little bit, right?For your American dramas and stuff like that.
And I didn't think I had much of an accent at the time, but then I would play back my auditions, and I'm like, wow, okay, I sound really African in here.Let's modify that.
So I started doing this thing where I would talk to people on a day-to-day basis with as American accent as I could, even like Uber drivers and stuff like that.And I'd play like a little game.
I'd be like, how long would it take them to ask where I'm from, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.So at first it was like, man, five minutes max.I was like, OK, I don't know what it is.And then I really started understanding where they were catching me off.
And it's like, in Africa, we use really big words when talking. So I just had to like numb that down a little and then before I knew it I was going 30 minutes in a conversation without anybody asking where I was from.
And I'm like, man, you know what, I think I got this in the bag.
Where in South Africa are you from?Johannesburg.Johannesburg, okay.So I know a lot of people, not a lot, I know a few people that come from Johannesburg and they've got a very interesting accent.It's almost like...
English combined with like German or something.Like when you hear it, if you know South African, you can instantly tell.If you don't, you think, what accent is that?
But for you, you wouldn't, you didn't have that type of an accent. I did, like when I first moved out here, people would ask me, are you from the UK or are you from Australia?So it's kinda like that.It's the Afrikaans accent.Yeah, that's it, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.What's it called, Afrikaan?Afrikaans.Kaans.Kaans, yeah.And it's like a mixture between Dutch and some African languages.So yeah, that's the accent.
You came here five years ago, and was it to find your fame and fortune?Or did you have to get out of South Africa?What was your idea?Because it's a long way away, man.
I think that's the longest flight from the States to South Africa that you can have.
It is, 24 hours.24 hours.It's insane.But yeah, so I wanted to be an actor since I was a kid.And the film industry out here, I mean, it's Hollywood, right?So I was like, OK, I want to go learn from people who are working in Hollywood.
so that I can learn from the best of the best and one day bring it back home, launch my own stuff, make my own projects, and I'll be able to teach other people stuff that I learned too.So it was a little sacrifice I had to make.
Spends a lot of Christmases away from the family, a lot of birthdays and stuff like that.
But I think it's paying off, you know, so but that's like once again, like I I moved from my house when I was 19 But it was only a 14-hour drive away, but it might as well been, you know, 14 days away when you first got here Did you have anybody hooked up to stay with or you just kind of just get off the proverbial boat and walk down?
Hollywood Boulevard and get a hotel?How do you set that up from all the way over there?
I was a little lucky, because I have family that lived in Chicago.Oh, okay.And one of my cousins ended up moving to L.A.
around the same time as me, and he's a little older than me, too, so he got to teach me some of the stuff and the differences in the culture, so he made it a lot easier, the transition.
That helps a lot, having a family member.
No, no, for real.We lived together for a year, even.It was great.
How old were you when you first got here?
Yeah, just a little kid with a dream.
So you mentioned he taught you the differences in culture.What are some of the biggest differences between American culture and South African?
He would tell me the places to go, where not to go, certain stuff you can wear.I don't know if you've seen, it's been trending a lot recently, but there's a lot of gangs in LA who wear caps from local sports teams.
And when I first moved out here, I had one of the sports team's caps from New York.I think it might have been the Knicks, right?And I'd wear it around everywhere.I'm like, oh yeah, I'm embracing American culture.But I didn't know that that cap
was a cat that was represented by, you know, certain gangs in LA.
That was, oh wow, that was gang related.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.And I had no idea.So, and I'm glad, like, you know, I didn't run into any trouble, because that would have been bad.I would have been like a lost, confused kid, like, you know, what's going on?Like, what did I do?
But he was like, yeah, so you don't want to wear those around.And like, you know, just the small little things to keep me safe.So then what did you start to do when you came out here to start building your acting career?
So I was in college for it, acting for film.And then when COVID hit, I was quarantined in downtown LA, which I feel like is the worst place to be quarantined.Oh my gosh.Yeah.
I can't even quarantine, like in your apartment or something?In my apartment.Just stuck there.Because now downtown LA, for a lot of people that don't know, there's a lot of the homeless camps.It's a very rough area now, much worse than it used to be.
Right, exactly.So I had I literally had, you know, no choice but to stay inside the house.And I had I had heard rumblings about what TikTok was, but I wasn't too sure what it was myself.So I just started posting videos for fun.
I did some comedy videos.I put up some acting videos on there and they started doing really well.And I was like, yo, I kind of like this.And then it just blossomed into a career.
So, so let's talk about, cause you did, you did actually do, you have some credits, some acting credits, so you were getting some parts.
But as you know, in acting, it's very hard to, you know, you get a part and you get another part and then it's a year before you get a part in between it.So there's a lot of downtime.Right.
And then like you said, for, for, for COVID too, but I was on my Instagram, I don't know, maybe six months ago or something.And I found. comments, DMs from people that you don't follow.
And I just started looking through and I saw the blue check ones I would look at.You know what I mean?
And I saw you had DMed me like, hey, Chris, I'd love to come see you wrestle at some point or whatever.And I see this like blue checks, I click on the profile, I see like 7 million followers.I'm like, who is this guy?
So I start watching and we'll get into it in a second, but you have a certain way of doing your videos.With the first one or two, I was like, What is this guy doing?And then I'm like, Oh my goodness.Repetition is the true form of comedy.
And now I get it.This, this, this, this whole, you know, way that you do things, which we'll discuss, but it has blossomed huge.Like you mentioned, starting in Tik TOK and it blossomed into a career.
So explain how you got into this career and what would you even call this career?
right it's a it's a funny territory because like i have people who will call me a comedian and when i first started making the videos that i'm making now i'll be honest i had no idea they were funny right i was just reacting to like a bunch of like what people would like call tomfoolery
And I was like, okay, this is crazy stuff, I wanna share this with people.And people were like, yo, your reactions are hilarious, right?
And it's so funny, cuz back in high school, when something dumb happens in the classroom, they'll be like, yo, look at John's face, look at John's face.And I used to be like, wait, what's my face doing?
I don't know, and they'd be laughing, right, while it happened. So it ended up like coming all together and and becoming like a piece of art if you would describe it that way and Yeah, people love it.
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Kind of explain how you do these videos, like what were the first couple ones that you did?You're starting a new job somewhere, is the ones that I've seen recently, is that how you originally started or?
No, so my very first pieces of content were like, I would create stories for TikTok, kind of like web series, right? And I wouldn't talk in them, but I would have the text over my head and I would mouth those words.
And then my content transitioned more into reaction videos.So I'd react to wholesome animal moments or funny moments and stuff like that.
And then when it came to transitioning into these first day videos that I have right now, I took videos that I would react to and I was like, what if I put myself in the scene and got a bunch of videos that are all related into one topic?
And I was playing with that a little bit.And at first I did the concept and it didn't work like 2022.It didn't work at all.
And when you say it didn't work, it means that no one's watching.It's not picking up any steam.
Yeah.No, it didn't pick up the steam.So I think it was a little before its time.So I went back to the old reaction videos I was doing.And then in at the end of last year, I was like, let me try it again.
But then me like, you know, basically around jobs.So the first one I did was construction. And I had really good response, especially from the construction community.
Well, explain kind of, so what did you do to make this construction video?
What was your idea behind it?So my idea was to get like a bunch of videos of people at work doing funny stuff on site on a construction site or some fails or whatever.And I stumbled across a few and I was like, hmm, let me put these all in one video.
So I ran to Home Depot, I got the construction hat, the construction vest, and I've been rolling with it ever since.
And I placed myself in front of the camera, and I would look from direction to direction, acting like I was in the scene, and I created a whole scene.
So where would you get these clips of people doing very stupid things, or things where you're just like, oh my gosh, an anvil dropping on somebody's head, or somebody doing something really stupid like that.
Where did you find those videos at the time?
So I would look all over the Internet.I would look on my TikTok for you page.I would look on my Instagram Explorer page.If I had to, I'd go to YouTube and type in keywords for stuff that I was looking for.
And if I found a video that was worth a reaction, I'd be like, you know what?
I'm gonna add this into the video, which is crazy because you would think like how I'm sure there's hundreds of wacky construction site videos and you could just use them and no one ever complains or anything like that.
Yeah, no, not often, because what I find is a lot of the times these videos have been posted by companies, right?So what I do is I'll go find the original creator of the content, and I would tag them in the video.And they message me back.
They're like, oh, wow, I've never been in something.This is cool.I've never been in a compilation like this.Thanks for using our video.Some people will come back and be like, oh, yeah, I got some profile visits after this.
And it ends up helping their businesses, too. It's like, you know, do you tag everybody?I do.I try my best to find the original.So when I can, like, you'll see my captions are sometimes like eight people tagged in one.I understand.Gotcha.
And yeah, it depends on whether I can find the original or not.
So what happens for people that haven't seen is, for example, like, what were some of the things that happened in this first one with the construction?Do you remember?
Yeah, um I know I reacted to somebody who was like standing on top of a ledge like on top of a skyscraper and they were walking with planks on their back and it was like thin planks with like a little distant like this and he's like jumping from one to another and it's like
How is this man not falling?There's been some crazy stuff.There's been one where someone was holding on to a clip or something that was attached to a helicopter.Helicopter goes into the sky.He's dangling in the air.
But when I use videos that are that dangerous, I always make sure I do my research, make sure they were okay.Someone didn't die doing that.Yeah, I can't post anything like that.Right, right.
So the guy's hopping from little strand of wood to little strand of wood. it clips over to you and you're just standing there with this like deadpan like semi-confused face.
Is that how you would explain it?Yeah, exactly.The deadpan stare has become like my brand, if I can say that.
So then he'll go back to something else of a guy, you know, hitting his thumb with a hammer or whatever and it keeps going back to you with this look on your face, and maybe you're wearing a construction helmet.
Like if a guy, something falls on his head, you'll put a helmet on.You kind of mimic the videos that you're putting together.
Yeah, try to make it as much as a scene as possible so that it's a really enjoyable watch.I actually did one as a wrestling cameraman a couple, you know, a while back and it was probably my funniest video.You should remind me to show you.
We'll explain what that one was.After this.So this was just like a bunch of wrestling fails.Like, you know, they, you know, they call them botches or whatever.Yeah. And it's just such a funny video.You have people, you know, like running to the ring.
And these are like indie guys, right?Yeah.Indie guys.
Falling through the ropes or ring breaks or whatever the heck it might be.
Exactly.There was one clip from AEW.OK.I did.I did get in there.Which one was it? It was one where someone had their feet dangling on the, you know how there's the ring and it goes in the corner like this by the turnbuckle?
So their legs were through the turnbuckles and someone was giving them a chair shot and then hit the pole instead of their foot and it was really obvious.So that was the clip that was in there.Gotcha, gotcha.
So let's go back to the original the construction work when you you put it up and so it's a on tik-tok originally or Instagram as well this started on tik-tok How does it start ballooning to where you have so many followers?
They're very shareable videos.I have some videos, I think my most liked video has nine million likes and four million shares.Wow.
So people will send them to their friends and the more and more that happens, they both end up following and you end up getting like, you know, two followers for the price of one.
Alongside it being pushed on the algorithm.
How long did it take for you to start building up millions of followers?
I got my first million on TikTok within nine months of starting on the app.And then on Instagram, it took me maybe like a year and a half to get to a million, maybe two.
And then within the span of the last, I want to say eight months, I've gone from one to seven million on Instagram.That fast?
Because it's gone viral now, right?
Were you surprised when that started happening?
Yeah, definitely.Especially because Instagram is seen as a platform that's so much harder to blow up on.But I also just took it as a testament to how many people I'm being able to entertain.It's just a beautiful thing.
And obviously you're using your acting background to be able to pull this off.This is your character that you're playing.
Right, right, right, right.I actually tweeted out the other day, I was like, if someone can connect me with Mr. Bean, let's make a silent movie.I feel like it'd be the most hilarious thing.Wow, yeah.A silent movie, right?
Fingers crossed, fingers crossed.We don't get much of those anymore, but I feel like there's still an opportunity to save that niche.
Are you a fan of silent movies?
I was, yeah, especially, we learned a lot about silent movies in college, and that's what really hooked me in.And we would watch a lot of TV shows every single week, it was a class called Film Art.
And our little homework was to watch olden day films.And at first I was like, oh man, I don't wanna watch this, it's so old.And I really started getting into it, especially the comedy stuff.
And I was like, this is hilarious, they're not even saying a word, it's all action.
Right, you look at Buster Keaton with the stunts that he did, It's completely insane just how he's able to put all that stuff together.And like you said, there's no sound, but just the actions that he was doing and portraying was just at next level.
Exactly, exactly.And it's really relatable, too.Like, even when you look at my content, a lot of people would comment, we had the exact same facial expression on this clip.
And it's like, in real life, you're not going to commentate on everything that happens around you.
Like, when it happens simultaneously, you're probably going to keep quiet and maybe, like, you know, look to the person on the left, like, did that really just happen?
Well, especially in the course of your videos too, because there's so much action, so much chaos that you just being there completely silent, really, it's a good dichotomy.Like you said, that's the comic relief.
How did you, how do you monetize the TikTok and the Instagram?
So I work a lot with movie studios to promote their films and TV shows and stuff like that.This year I've promoted Avatar The Last Airbender, the live action.I promoted the Fall Guy movie with Ryan Reynolds and I recently promoted Bad Boys.
So what we would do is we'll sit down together at a junket, and we will promote the film.We'll either react to clips from the movie, or we will get clips that are related to the movie, sit down and react to that, and I'll get paid to promote it.
So you'll do the same thing that you do with your videos, but for the Fall Guy, you'll take some of the stunts or whatever, clips from the movie, and then edit yourself in there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.So like for Fall Guy, I did like a little stunt shoot where I was with Ryan Reynolds, stunt driver from the film, and we were drifting around Universal Studios.
He was speeding, they gave me an opportunity to go behind the wheel, and they just like captured my reactions while I was screaming, and that was, you know, promo for the movie, it's a stunt movie.It was my first day as a stunt guy.
I think it's Ryan Gosling, right?
I think we're saying Reynolds.Ryan Gosling.Well, that's that's amazing, too, now that you're able to to, you know, move into this area with the Hollywood kind of connection.
Right.Exactly.So it's it's a job that, you know, comes with a lot of opportunities.And I'm just excited to take every single last one.
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How long does it take for you to make them?And do you use it once a week?Is it whenever you can?Because I would assume finding the videos, editing them, all that sort of stuff kind of takes the process of how that works.
Yeah, so I will, I have gathered some of these videos since like September last year, right?I recently did like a first day as a parkour video and some of those videos I got last year in December.That was crazy.January, thank you.
These guys are like jumping off of like buildings and landing and rolling.That was a nutty one.
It is, and it's become an official sport too, which is dope.So you're collecting these videos over time?Over time, yeah.
So I'll collect these videos and once I feel like I have enough good videos in the same category, I will be like, okay cool, let me get the props for this, let me film this.I film on location as much as I can.
So if it's a, the clip is during the day, I'll film during the day.If the clip is at night, I'll film at night.Sometimes it comes with inconveniences in terms of timing, because I do try to get the videos out every day.Every day, wow.
I do try to get them out every day, but I concentrate more on quality over quantity.
So if I feel like I don't have enough, you know, I don't have good content for that day, I'll take the day off and I'll use the duration of that day to get that video as polished as I can.
Do you have a list of like ideas that you have or first day whatever like that you know you can look for?
The videos come to me right so like if I'm scrolling on my feed and let's say I see like an electrician right I'll be like oh okay I haven't done first day as an electrician yet so I'll write it down in my notes and I'll start gathering those videos for when that's ready.
How long does it take to gather the videos for each clip?It could take anywhere, like if it's a really, really good day and I'm finding everything all at once, it can take like one day.
But a lot of the times it's stuff that I've been gathering for months.And it's just that you just go to Google and start searching?Yeah.
I try search, you know, all over the place, especially like if I'm desperate to post a video for tomorrow, I will literally do the whole shebang and go through every single social media platform that I can to try to find relatable videos.
Do you have a YouTube channel as well? I do, I do.I am planning on posting on there more though, but yeah, it's gonna be the exact same content that's on my Instagram, but on YouTube.
YouTube is actually, you can monetize that.I'm sure you can on Instagram, I'm not sure how though, can you?
Yeah, you can.You can monetize on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Snapchat, like the whole shebang, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'm sure you do that.Yeah.So you're getting checks in from all these different places.
Yeah, they all have different requirements though.So on TikTok, your video has to be over a minute long to get monetized.YouTube, your shorts can only be up to a minute long.
So I'd have to go in and re-edit some of the same videos, cut out some clips, re-film some reactions to get them on all the different platforms.
Were you good at editing from before?Is this something you picked up?How do you film it all?Are you a one-man show?One-man show, yeah.
I have a really big light, which you could probably put in a studio.And then I have a tripod that I put in front of it that my phone rests on.And yeah, it's just a one-man show, the entire production.Do you edit it all on your phone?
All on my phone, yeah.I was never a great editor.It's a skill that I learned the more and more I started creating content.
So what kind of views, like what are some of your biggest views that you've received for your videos on social media?
My most viewed is a construction site video, which is not the first one.No, not the first site.This one, this one was a couple construction videos in this one has 323 million on Instagram right now.Oh my gosh.
Yeah. 323 million?323 million.But you only have 7 million followers.
How does it get out there like that then?
I have no idea.The Instagram Reels page really pushes your content out and that's where the majority of the viewers came from.Wow.Yeah.And what happens in that video?
It's the same thing, you know, like the very first clip was like a guy wearing sandals and he's like over like a piece of water in one of like the construction cars and it like goes over a rock and like he goes through a glass and his sandals come off.
So it's all just ridiculous stuff. Jeez man, that's a lot of views.It really is, yeah.Do you have people that recognize you from these now?You know what's crazy?I was telling one of my friends, I get recognized in the most peculiar places.
Like, you would think of walking through the mall, you know, I'd get recognized there. But I get recognized, like one time I was at a Korean barbecue, right?I was like eating, had my hoodie on and everything.
Someone comes up to me like, oh my God, they really love my videos.I should do like first day working at a Korean barbecue and stuff like that.So that was cool.But a lot of other times it will happen at like events that I'm at.
So like premieres or one time I was like walking past like a party in Hollywood Boulevard and the security guard like recognized It's like the most random places.Yeah.
Well, these two people don't might not know for sure, right?Because they just see a clip.So that looks like the guy.Is that him?Could that be him?Exactly.
And I feel like that happens a lot.
Have you had a chance, you mentioned you're doing these premieres and this stuff, have you had a chance to see some people that you are fans of, besides me, that have recognized you and say, hey man, how's it going?
I know you went to the Oscars, which is pretty crazy, we can tell that story, but when you go to other premieres, do people know who you are, like in the movies and stuff?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.At the Bad Boys event just now, there was a comedian, his name's Michael, Michael Keith.He came up to me and he was like, I like your stuff.And I was like, oh, okay, wow, that's crazy.
Because a lot of these people, they don't follow me, right?I don't see their notifications of them liking my videos.It's like with Jamie Foxx, I had no idea that he watched my videos.
And then when he saw me in person, he was like, man, I really, really love your stuff, man.You're doing great stuff, you're hilarious.And I'd never seen him like a single one of my reels, so you never know.Yeah, you never know who's watching, right?
Especially since they get pushed out, like how I told you they get pushed out earlier, you never know who's watching.
Right, right, like you said, if you got 323 million views, there's gonna be some people outside of your, lots of people outside of your circle of influence, shall we say, that are checking this out.
Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And she had told me that a lot of the times you need a publicist to be able to do stuff like that, and they normally have their guest list and stuff.And so I was like, dang, I don't know if I want to go the whole publicist route, right?
So I'm at her office, we're having a meeting, and she rushes into the room and she screams, we're going to the Oscars. And it was like a crazy moment for me, because I was like, wait, how did this happen?
And she was like, the Academy reached out to us to invite us to the Oscars.Why is that?I'm really not sure.I feel like maybe it was to promote the events.
And I feel like they're having more and more creators attend these events so that we can get more eyes on it.
Well, like you said, too, if you're doing some of the Hollywood junkets and that sort of thing, you're obviously on the radar.
Who's doing stuff?What about this guy?
Wow.It was so surreal to me.So, straight away, I was like, what am I gonna wear?You know, how's the whole day gonna go?And it was a really great time.I got there, I met some people that I looked up to for years.
Well, hold on a second.Let's go back a bit.So, how did you decide, what does one wear to the Oscars?Now, you're actually going to the Oscars.Are you red carpeting it?Are you sitting in the crowd?Like, what was this invitation entailing?
So this invitation entailed a red carpet, you know, walk the carpet, red carpet interviews and going into the actual ceremony.So it was the full shebang.And so obviously there was a lot of pressure.You know, I was like, OK, cool.
We can get some good press out of this.So I went with the stylist for the very first time.I never worked with a stylist before.And I wore a company called Dixon Lim, which is from Singapore.
So do they offer, like, my client's going to the Oscars, would anybody like to send a tuxedo?Is that kind of how it goes?
That was the pitch.That was the pitch.And their client from Singapore was like, yes, please.They sent out two suits for me to try out.That's crazy, man.
There was a lot of options because I walked into the stylist place and they had like five, six suits there, different colors.Some was like from different designers around the world and they're like, pick whichever one.
So I'm trying out all the different variations, seeing what I look best in.And the suit from the guys in Singapore was my favorite.It was unique.You know, it like straps around your whole body.And I was like, OK, I kind of like this flow.
So I decided to go with that.And yeah, I didn't regret it at all.
So, you know, I've done, I've never been to the Oscars, but some of the big ones.
So you got, you got to pull up in the car and you get out and you show your credentials and then like, who are you seeing on this red carpet and what's going on at that point.
It was insane.So when I walked the carpet, Jamie Lee Curtis was walking right behind me, and I didn't notice until I was almost done, and I looked to the right, and I was like, oh, it's Jamie Lee Curtis.That's crazy.Cool.
And then I keep walking the carpet a little bit.I'm not sure if you're familiar with Cubby Lame.He's a creator.He has like 80 million followers on social media.Oh, wow.Another silent comedian.Gotcha. And I ran into him there, too.
And it was our first time meeting.It was like, oh, this is pretty cool.We spoke a little bit.And then I met Vanessa Hudgens, who was in one of my favorite movies, High School Musical.So it was really nice to meet her.
It's so funny, I made a little video while I was there, because I started realizing I ended up in a lot of people's way, not in an inconveniencing way, but you know where you end up in no man's land?
So I was ending up there a lot of times on the carpet, and we ended up filming a video, and there was just a lot of people walking past me, like Ryan Gosling, I'm not gonna say Reynolds's son, Ryan Gosling did, so many great actors, and then towards the end of the carpet, before we entered the actual,
auditorium, Dwayne Johnson comes on out, and I'm a huge wrestling fan, been a wrestling fan for years, and getting to meet him was like a real I'm here moment.
A lot of work has been put into this moment, and I'm meeting somebody who I'd like to make a movie with one day.
you're kind of bearing the lead, Jonathan.You're meeting someone that you're a fan of, that you'd like to make a movie with someday, on the red carpet of the Oscars.It's pretty big, man.It's ridiculous.
The Oscars of all places, it's crazy.
I mean, Woody, you said it's a here I am moment, but here you are, a 19-year-old kid coming over from Johannesburg, South Africa, not really knowing what to expect.And what is it, five years later?How long have you been there?Five years.
Five years later. I would assume that your family at home is like ringing the bells in celebration of how you've made it in America.
Right, right.Because I feel like if you had to ask anyone honestly, like, did you think that I'd make it this far?Yeah.The answer would probably be no, right?
But it's just such a blessing to be able to be like, I came here, this is what I've done so far, and I still have many more years of my career to go.
No, absolutely.And like I said, the Oscar element of it is amazing to me.Did the people on the red carpet know who you are when the paparazzi are taking pictures?They got the sign, Jonathan Peter, influencer, or what does it say?
What did it say?I remember I just walked onto the carpet and it's crazy because there was like a bunch of photographers all behind.It was obviously the biggest red carpet I'd done up until that point.Oh, yeah.
And every single person snaps over here, Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan. I'm like looking around like there, there, there.
It was amazing.I loved it.So how do you take that notoriety and that spotlight and continue to build upon it?
Right.It's a beautiful thing because it's like once you build an audience, you've already done all the hard work, right?And you go like, what do I have to do in the future?How do I want to, you know, influence this audience?
What do I want to share with the world?
So I have some scripts in production which I'm gonna share one day and it's such a blessing to be able to be like, I don't really have to pay all these different people to market it because I have the audience and I love them, they love me, I can share a nice little story with them and we'll eat it up.
It's amazing too, because in this business, you know, I've been in show business for 33 years.It's hard to make your mark, you know, and, and to, to, you know, break through those walls, so to speak, no pun intended.
And here you are an actor, and there's probably a lot of people that don't even know that you act.So when you start doing that and writing scripts, like you mentioned, it's like, wow, I thought he was just dead pan face guy.
Yeah, exactly, because like right now I'm in the States on a visa, so it's an artist visa, but I can only do influential work right now.So, yeah, only influential work.Meaning TikTok and Instagram.TikTok, Instagram.
So that's actual visa that you get?
Yes.Wow.And thanks to social media.It's such a blessing because the requirements to get it as an actor are very, very hard.And trying to get that straight out of college is, it's insane, right?
So, I have a lot of friends who I was in college with who had to go back home because they weren't able to get the acting degree.Where did you go to college?Where did I go?Where?New York Film Academy.Okay, gotcha.Out here in Burbank, though.
So, I was blessed that social media was able to do what it did, and I got a visa out of it, and I'm working on, I'm applying for a green card right now, which will go through, and once I get that, I can start doing acting and modeling and the whole shebang.
How do you get a visa as an influencer?So they want to know that you are like working with American companies.
So it's like, you know, being able to work with Netflix and like all these different like, you know, companies and like it's like, OK, cool.He has work in the US.
They want to know that you'll be able to support yourself financially and you wouldn't just, you know, go homeless over here. And obviously having an audience counts too.
But all the requirements are just to make sure that you're working and that you're contributing something to the country.
And are you doing so with Netflix?Yes.Promoting their movies and stuff or what?
Yeah, promoting their films, so I'm working with Netflix, Sony, Universal, and then I also promoted some video games, some mobile games, and... That's amazing.A bunch of stuff, yeah.
And you do that by just making all of your content.Right, right, exactly. It's, it's so incredible to me in the best possible way that we live in a world where being creative like that, and you can make a full career off it.You know what I mean?
That like you're, you're just basically using your mind and some editing skills to inhibit the space that not a lot of people do.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's spot on.
And it's like, it's not anything I thought that I'd be doing until like, I never thought I'd be into content creation, I really didn't, until I realized like, one of the main reasons I wanted to act was to have an influence on people's lives.
And when I realized that I was able to do that with content, and content that I'm controlling, I was like, I should have thought about this sooner, right?
So it just worked out.You're your own boss.Exactly.You know, you can do whatever you want. And the thing is, too, like that I get, it's like you're still playing a character.
You know, it's three second clips of a character, but it's this character that you play.And I think in wrestling, it happens quite a bit.So how long have you been acting for?
It's like since day one, you were playing a character here and that you've really kind of focused and hone in on that.
I really have, and I'm also able to use that to get into different doors.Like one of my dreams that I tell all my friends one day is I want to cost a wrestler a championship.You know, really, really small.
And you're a champion yourself, you know what I'm saying?So I'm not saying I'm going to cost you.
I'll be watching my back now. Which is great, because we just had a show at the Forum, that's where you and I met, and you came to the A.W.
show, and I was like, you gotta put this guy in the front row, man, he's a big-time content creator, and kinda showed our producers some of your stuff.I mean, how was that experience?
It was amazing.It's so crazy, though, because when you came out, and I love the learning tree gimmick, I really, really do.When you came out, I was like, hmm, let me give Chris a little bit of heat.
I was probably the loudest person in the room booing you that night. Thank you.Playing along.Yeah, yeah, yeah.But it's incredible, man.Your stuff, just being able to follow your career for all these years is surreal.
And even just sitting here across from you at the table, it's moments like this that make me realize, wow, the opportunities are endless.
That's the thing and I've had those experiences to where I've Connected with somebody that I followed and admired and then you're just talking to each other as friends Because we're just two guys that have a pretty cool job But you know, there's always levels of influence I remember like for example, like, you know, Paul Stanley from kiss and I are friends, but at first I can't believe
that I'm talking to Paul Stanley.And then you realize, oh, he's just, hey, Paul's on the phone, whatever.Like, that's cool when you get to that point where you're doing stuff that other people that you admire, admire.Right, exactly.
There's a part of me that doesn't like it at the same time.In what way?Because it's like, I'm a fan of somebody, right?And I look up to them and I meet them in person and like, you know, we're chilling and it's cool and like,
I'm like, okay, yeah, you know, this is cool.We're chilling like friends.But then it's like, I feel like the longer I've been in Hollywood and the more people I've met, the less excited I've become to meet people.
Because you do come to realize, oh, we're in the same industry.We're doing the same work.And it takes away from the experience a little bit.
But it's still a cool thing.There still will be some that you meet where you're like, oh my gosh, this is next level.There'll be some of those for sure.
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Tell me a little bit about pro wrestling in South Africa.I've never been.I think WWE might have been there a few times, but I was never on the tours.
And a good friend of mine, Luther from AW, lived in South Africa and booked a whole territory there in the early 90s where they did some business.But is there a lot of pro wrestling there?
There is, I know a couple wrestlers that came out of there.There was Adam Rose who was in... Oh yeah, Justin Gabriel.Justin Gabriel too.Angelino who was in a tag team in AEW when it first came out, like 2019.Oh really?Yeah.Angelico?Angelico.
Is he from South Africa?Yes.Oh wow, okay.
Yeah, he's got the accent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.So it's like, it's a really big deal and every time they announce a show was coming to South Africa, we'd be like, wow. This is insane.It would sell out.
There's a place called the Coca-Cola Dome and everybody knew that it was in town.There were billboards all around the place because we watched it on our local cable, you know, TV network.
And it would be like on a Sunday afternoon, there's a pay-per-view happening.I think our pay-per-views would happen a week after they happen on the space.They would, you know, be on cable a week after. But we never had any spoilers.
I think this was just before we were on social media like that.So it's a thing for all your friends to come together.We'll play the games and then we'll watch the pay-per-views all together.And everyone is just going crazy.It's insane.
So many people out there are wrestling fans.I feel like if more wrestling shows went over there, you would see a lot of appreciation for them.
Oh, I was just checking in to come here today, and the guy that was checking me in was a big fan.Where are you from?Nigeria.
It's just amazing the worldwide influence that wrestling has.
It's huge, and it's nice to see that more and more wrestling is becoming more worldwide.
visiting all these different countries, because you have people who have been wrestling fans since they were kids, but have never had the opportunity to go to a wrestling show.My second wrestling show was the one at the Kia Forum with you.
And we're just there, I came with two South Africans, and we're just celebrating, like, it was like the best thing in the world.And it's like, people get to live those childhood experiences by attending these shows for the very first time.
Was it hard to come from South Africa here for the first time?
Because I know some friends of mine that are in a band that plays around the world called the Soap Girls just recently had some visa issues with the South African, their South African government.And I tried to help them kind of help with that.
Did you have to get a visa to come over here in the first place?Was it hard to do that?
I did.So I originally had a visitor's visa because I came out here for vacation a year before I came to college. And I think that made the visa process easier for when I was applying for school.
It's a process, you know, you have to show them that you got a letter of acceptance, got to show them your results.You have an interview where you sit with someone behind a glass and they're asking you questions.And then after that, it was all easy.
It was just hop on a plane, I'm at LAX.
You mentioned that you, I remember, met your friends that were from South Africa.Is there a whole South African community here in LA?I'm sure there is.
We met at college, actually.There was quite a few South Africans there, but they have little gatherings in and around town.We have a genre of music called I'm a Piano, which is becoming really... I'm a Piano.I'm a Piano.
It's becoming really, really popular around the entire world. So they host these little parties in Hollywood where they'll be like, oh, I'm a piano party.Almost every South African you know was over there.
I watched a movie on the plane and it was called Waiting for Sugarman or Searching for Sugarman.And it was a story about this artist.I think he was from America, but he had a huge fan base in South Africa. and played stadiums there, but only there.
He'd come back to, I think, Chicago and play in front of 20 people in a club.For some reason, there was just a huge fan base for him in South Africa.Who are some of the biggest artists in South Africa, musical artists or actors?
Right now, there's an artist, her name's Tyla.She is going absolutely crazy.She's blowing up really, really fast, too.She's had music videos get over 100 million views, and she recently got discovered.
She's been on some of the biggest red carpets around the world within like the past year.And she's doing really, really good on that front.There's Trevor Noah, who's a worldwide comedian.He did the Daily Show out here.
There's like, there's so much talent that comes out of South Africa.Elon Musk was born in the same city as me.That's right.
Yeah.So every time when you're on famous birthdays, I'll never be number one born in Pretoria thanks to Elon Musk. But yeah, there's a lot of talent out there.And I feel like the entertainment industry back home is getting really good too.
We have Netflix Originals coming out of South Africa.You have a lot of films being filmed there.They just had the One Piece live action get filmed there.Some South African actors got onto this show.
So I feel like South Africa's really getting onto the map right now.And as the years keep going by, we're gonna keep seeing more and more artists come out.
Are you being recognized by South African pop culture, government?I mean, do people know that you're here doing this work over from your country?
I put a South African flag in my bio recently because I was like, it doesn't, when I went to the Oscars, I wrote in their house from South Africa, very, you know, deep, sentimental caption. And a lot of my people from South Africa didn't know that.
So they were like, oh, you're South African?This makes me a lifelong fan now.And South Africans are very supportive of each other.There's a little rivalry between South Africa and Nigerian pop culture.
And so South Africans have a lot of pride in their people before they're like, oh, the Nigerians are trying to claim our artist.
So... Are they next door to each other?
No, so Nigeria is Central Africa, but when people come to visit Africa as a continent, there's three countries that they mention they want to visit.It's Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa.
So there's a little bit of a rivalry between South Africa and Nigeria as to which is the best country in Africa.Sure, sure, sure.
But there's something to it, like, you know, I'm from Canada and obviously, you know, you always have a little bit of national pride because, you know, we're not from here.
You know, we live here and make our careers here, but I'm Canadian, man, you know?Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
So it's that, like, national pride that you hold with you.Sure, exactly.Yeah.
As you start to wind down, obviously, you have this very successful career as an influencer.What else are you working towards?I know you mentioned acting.Are you still auditioning, or is this influencing gig helping you get parts?
Yeah, it's definitely helping me network.I discover different actors start following me randomly, and those are always great connections to make. going into the industry.
So I'm gonna start auditioning again as soon as I get, you know, my green card comes through.And we start working.But for the time being, you know, it's really great.It's holding me down.
Every time I get to do a press junket with a cast, we sit down and we work together and then I'll get invited to their premiere and after party so we can really talk and network, talk future projects and, you know, see what comes up.
Yeah, it's interesting how you say, I forgot you have to get the visa to be able to act.So that's just the overall entertainment visa?Yeah, yeah, pretty much.What stuff have you done already?
Because I saw on your IMDb you got some credits.So a lot of the stuff is like web series that I did myself.Some short films that I did, some thesis films that I did.So I'm still waiting for that debut in a feature film.And it's going to be great.
Before I started doing social media,
I thought that my career would be like more serious stuff, action and drama, but having a fan base for comedy has really made me think, hmm, I feel like it only makes sense that my very first feature film is a comedy, and a great comedy at that.
So we'll see what the future has to hold.
Well the thing is, and once again, you gotta take any
Any chance an opportunity that you have like I mentioned to get your foot in the door here in this town and look what you've done Like it might not have been what you expected Maybe you thought I'm gonna come and audition and I'll be cast and I'll be in the next big, you know Kevin Costner Western only because I saw the billboard as I came inside here.
It didn't work out that way But now suddenly of this whole other thing that you've been working on.That's that's become huge.I
Yeah, and that's the thing, you never know what's gonna happen in your career.I might go take a wrestling class and be like, wow, I might be a wrestler, you know what I'm saying?
So you never really know what the future holds, but it's just about being open-minded and taking every opportunity that comes.
Last few questions, let's talk about the videos.What are some of the craziest things that you've seen in these videos that you've collected?
You know what's crazy?The craziest videos I've seen, I haven't even used in my videos.Because like I told you earlier, sometimes I can't verify whether somebody was okay.Yeah, yeah, yeah.I genuinely believe I've seen some people dying.
It's like videos of people dying, and I'm like, I need health insurance from Instagram or someone, because this is going to catch up to me.
But recently I saw a video of a, it was at an airport outside of a plane, and you know how they have those stairs that are connected to the plane, and people walk in them and enter the plane?
So the stairs were being pushed away, and somebody didn't see that, and they fell from the door all the way onto the runway. It was insane.I haven't verified whether he's okay or not.If he is, you'll probably see first day as a pilot coming soon.
What about the there was one that I saw the restaurant of just like there's like Snakes in there and it's just this horror like I don't know if was it the first day working at a restaurant or first day as a waiter as a waiter like tell us I remember some of the stuff in there was just ridiculous.
Yeah, it's there like a lot of people I use like a lot of video clips of like, you know There was like a rats running inside or up on walls or like robots cooking in the kitchen and stuff like that And people are in the comments like well
I guess I'm never eating out again, which is hilarious because it's like, you know, you normally think about an influencer and they're promoting people's businesses.It's like the complete opposite.No, don't eat out.Stay at home.Save your money.
I think it's good influencing if you ask me.The one that just came out is the first day working at a gym.I think it was.And I mean, dude, there's a clip in there.It's so funny.
Of course, the people on the treadmill are ridiculous because that happens all the time.
step on and get shot off but explain the one where the the the chick is doing the deadlifts oh wow that was today's video yeah how did you like where do you find this stuff i had to watch it again they're like what what just happened yeah that one i found on tiktok um i found it last night actually
Last night on TikTok.And it was so ridiculous when I watched it.I was like, there's no way this happened.I found more ridiculous videos.
But the last thing you want to do when you're making comedy videos is put in videos that will throw people out of it and be like, ew, what was that?Like there were videos of people deadlifting and throwing up while deadlifting.
And there comes like a limit to how many of those you can put in a video before it starts becoming funny.So when I saw this girl pee her pants, I've never seen anything like that.No, I haven't either.Right?
And a part of me was like, was that actual pee?Was it water?You know, you never know.But I was like, this happened.She peed her pants and she continued to finish her set.Number one, I respect the dedication.I really, really do.
She's doing squats and she's really straining and she pees right through her spandex.And before you can rewind it to see if, did I really just see that?She promptly does it again.
Which is just like, wow.Like you said, that's dedication.The other one that I liked was it shows this one guy like doing curls in the background.The guy's trying to bench press and he's like, he can barely do the bar and his arms are just shaking.
And then of course we switched back to you just standing there like a water bottle or something.
Just staring from a distance.I've been in that situation before where I was struggling.It was in boarding school, and I was working with my friend in a small room.It was just the two of us.
And it was time for me to push up, and I try to push up, and I can't.And instead of my friend helping me out, he starts laughing.Like, he starts laughing at the top of his, like, uncontrollably.Like, even if he wanted to help me, he couldn't.
And I was just sitting there struggling like, yo, help me!Help me! It was crazy.I still hold it to him to this day.I need to get some revenge.
Last question, is there a favorite video that you've done?You mentioned the biggest one with 323 million, but is there one that's your favorite?
It was one called First Day at a Bowling Alley.I believe it got 157 million views. It did really, really well, but it was a fun watch because it was like, it's my first day working in a bowling alley, and I'm reacting to all these ridiculous clips.
There's somebody bowling, and he ends up hitting the scoreboard that's up at the top of the ceiling.You're like, how do you do that? You know, somebody runs all the way down to the pins and then rolls the ball and misses all of them.
And I just imagine like what the employees would have been thinking or would have been looking like in that scenario.And I stand in those employees shoes and people are like, that's hilarious.
I just can't believe that there's that many things that people are filming when this wacky stuff happens.Like she goes to bowl and doesn't let go of the ball and just like falls and slides down the damn lane.It's like, this is ridiculous.
It's like, it's like you guys had to know this was happening because I was thinking literally the other day, I was like, how if I not run out of videos to react?Right. It's crazy.I'll use like eight, maybe nine in one video.
And I have hundreds of videos still going and I'm still fighting new ones every day.And I'm like, guys, this is the stuff that's recorded and posted.Imagine the stuff that's not recorded or not posted.
Like there's probably some crazier videos just sitting in someone's camera phone out there.Do you ever do sequels because you have so many clips?I do.I do.
I will sometimes say like second day as a construction site worker, third day as a construction.And people love them.
Well, dude, it's been great talking to you, man.Like I said, you just decided to reach out to me on Instagram?
I did, because you're one of my favorite wrestlers of all time, right?I might even say the GOAT.Oh, thank you.And I had never been to an AEW show, and I obviously wanted to watch you wrestle.You know, I don't know when you're gonna retire.
Right, right, right.So I was like, let me reach out to Chris and see if we can set something up, because I just need to see you in person.And it took months for me to get back to you.
You must have thought I was a dick or something.
Listen, we're busy, you travel on the road.
Yeah, when I didn't even know you were, like, now I follow you, and now you come right into the DMs, so it worked out great.Well, dude, it's great meeting up with you at AW, and it's great doing this today, and we'll have to keep in touch.
First day as a podcast host.I guess so, which is amazing.Thanks, man.Appreciate you for having me.
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