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All right, our two Clay and Buck Friday victory week.I think we're just declaring it MAGA victory week, Trump victory week.It is a great time to be alive, to be an American and particularly to be a Trump voter.
The good one, folks, as good as it gets.I don't know if it's ever going to get any better.I'm just telling you right now, you might see a couple more elections.You might see 20 more elections.
But I don't know if there's going to be one that is more satisfying under the circumstances than this.So take it in.Enjoy it.You know, this weekend, the battle looms in the future.
The work that remains to be done is massive, but it is, I think, also invigorating to know what the future holds.
So this weekend, really take some time to just enjoy where we are, enjoy that the good guys won, and make sure that you have some memories tied to this going forward.
I gotta tell you, it's a great one, and it's funny, everyone that I've been seeing, man, I mean, you know, I was doing rehab on my knee this week, because, you know, I'm old.How is the knee, by the way?Better.
We had to do some, I did a little procedure.Anyway, I'm not going to turn this into a nationally syndicated radio show where Buck talks about his health problems, but no, I can walk again.
I mean, for about two months, I couldn't walk, so I was just getting, like, sadder and fatter every day, but now I can walk again, so I'm going to look normal in hopefully a couple of months. But yeah, we got a new fix.
Point being, everyone that I saw though, it's funny, you know, just going to the store, walking down the street, seeing neighbors smile, everyone's like, just this smile, this satisfied, knowing, glorious smile about the election.
That's really all you have to do.You see people, you just kind of shake your head and you go, wasn't it awesome?Now we all get to luxuriate in this and really savor it and get that full experience.
Unfortunately, Clay, there are some people out there for whom this is a sad week. It's so funny to watch this stuff.
Now, there are the people who have already realized that for dignity and career preservation, they need to come forward and say, you know, all right, you know, I was wrong.I guess he isn't Hitler.He won fair and square.
You're seeing a fair amount of that because the win was so big.
Just understand that if this was tight, if we were still counting votes and figuring this out, they would be shrieking about how he's Hitler and the country's over and these people are insane. or at least they pretend to be insane.
Now they know it's all over, Trump won, repudiation of a large part of the left-wing agenda, that's going on.But there are the, you know, Clay, we always have to separate, there are the manipulators and the true believers, right?
You know, Eric Hoffer wrote a very famous, well-known book of political philosophy, True Believer, goes through, still really holds up, goes through, you know, kind of the manipulation of crowds, the madness of crowds, and how you create these people that will believe absolutely anything.
And they're the people that are manipulating them obviously and I think a lot of the MSNBC New York Times You know propaganda complex on the on the manipulator side, but there are some true believers in there right and Last night at you who is John Dickerson is he CBS.
I don't even know that I don't know these guys I saw people saying that he is like a CBS political analyst.
Yeah, I think that's right and
so so this guy's on the late-night comedy show understand it's not a political show a comedy show quote-unquote with stephen colbert which it's not it's actually a propaganda show that makes occasional jokes i want you to see this is a quick clip but i want to understand that what you're hearing is a grown man crying because kamala lost play night how would you explain that to a fourteen-year-old today how do you explain this election i'll try to think about my book my voice is
um what is all right so first of all i have a i have a 14 year old okay uh he's ecstatic flips he's ecstatic that trump won and all of his friends are ecstatic that trump won and most 14 year old boys in america if they could vote would vote for donald trump okay let's start there second what is the audience for this show
Buck, I loved David Letterman.He's sitting in the same studio David Letterman was in.I loved watching late night comedy.How did late night comedy turn into Stephen Colbert having a guy crying because Trump won the popular vote?
What is the audience for this?Surely if you run, Sherry Redstone, if you run CBS, Does this show make money, the Colbert show?Don't you just look at the results?
If you're just a rational, involved in the entertainment industry person and say, maybe I should have late night shows that just make people laugh again.How would that not be your opinion?
Like I understand on some level, Buck, in 2016, Trump was such a shock to the system that the media could say, man, we never saw this coming. He just won the popular vote.
Kamala spent a billion dollars calling him a Nazi, and virtually every state in the United States got redder.New York State, Buck, is closer to being red than Texas or Florida are based on the 2024 election results.
Kamala only won Illinois by eight points, Buck.She won New Jersey by four points. these are toss up jurisdiction state margins, how would you not think let's just be funny again?How would that not be your take if you run an entertainment company
And if I saw, if I ran CBS and I saw Stephen Colbert interviewing, first of all, this guy's a political analyst who's like crying on the seat next to him.First of all, why is he a guest?
Second, why is he a political analyst if he can't address elections without crying?Third, What is the flipping audience for this?Who are these people out there that you're gaining and who have you turned off in the process?
I would never watch this show.And I have to imagine 95% of Americans feel the same way.
One of the big lies that was told for a long time when there was total
uh... when we used to call the mainstream media it's not if that is not only conferring uh... unearned privilege on them that their mainstream is truly untrue now they're not the many of the mainstream media it's the legacy media it's the old media it's what's led the left behind uh... in this new era that we're approaching or you know the the leftovers in this new era approaching
But Clay, they used to say, oh, they just want to make money and they'll do whatever.That was always a lie.That's not true.
These are entities that are highly ideological, and because they exist in meaty ecosystems that were built a long time before this left-wing nonsense took over, they're able to get away with it to some degree, right?
I mean, we always say here, we know what Rush did for talk radio. and we honor and respect what he did and the mission that he had and we try to continue and move it forward and that is our goal day in and day out.
A lot of these communists that have taken over CBS Evening News and CNN, they went from center-left entities, I think, in fairness,
uh... you know forget like william f william f buckley had like firing line on pbs ready it used to be that some of these places were at least seen and now they've been taken over by lunatic communists and people recognize them for what they are the comedy shows are part of this as well msnbc's nicole wallace a former republican i mean somebody who worked for the bush white house the bush white house that led
us into two wars and financial calamity, let's be honest.I mean, I know it wasn't all his fault, but it happened on his watch and he had eight years to stop it.
And, you know, I can get into the Community Reinvestment Act and all this other stuff another time, but the point is the time bomb went off when it was his job to prevent a time bomb from going off in the economy.
And Clay, Nicole Wallace is saying this is cut eight.She can't even handle it.She's deleting, she's an MSNBC host who's deleting her ex account.
I have this sort of insatiable interest in every bit of wisdom you can impart.And as a journalist, I hear you about girding ourselves for this moment.As a human, I deleted Twitter today as an act of self-preservation.
And because I was no longer able to find the things I was interested in, I'm seeing a lot of things that I'm not.
Can I just say, Clay, one of the reasons Trump won is because enough Americans have realized that the Democrat Party is run by narcissistic, emotionally fragile lunatics.
And they're just proving to us, since Trump won, what a bunch of narcissistic, emotionally fragile lunatics they really are.I love what you're saying as a human.
I was like, man, I wasn't really sure what species you were.Appreciate you nailing that down for us.Appreciate the clarification.
In what world is it an adult response to say, occasionally I come across things that I don't like and therefore I have decided that can never happen?
this this is always been my thing in general about the concept of cancel culture there are lots of shows that i think are garbage the view is garbage i think it's the dumbest show on the planet but if it makes money i somewhat understand why the distributor of the view would say we're going to keep distributing it because there's a uh there's an audience of emotionally dumb
and intellectually dumb people who want to see a show such as this talk about the political issues of the day.And some of you might say, that's your show with Buck.Okay, you can attack us as much as you want.
But my point on it is, if the marketplace says this should exist, then that's fine.If I don't like a show, I don't watch it.Now,
My thing on late-night talk shows is we know Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, David Letterman, they established massive audiences of people that wanted to laugh and be entertained.
Even, I'll give them credit, SNL seems like it's come around a little bit in the last couple of years and finally started to ridicule Joe Biden, as he should be, and they made fun of Kamala Harris some, and I would imagine certainly they'll tee off on Trump, but I think it'll be more even-handed.
What is the marketplace for otherwise comedic shows for people to just have people crying on the couch?I really don't understand it.And establishing your emotional fragility does not make me trust you more.
Remember when Stelter was like, which to me is the perfect distillation of the beta male and why Democrats are having trouble attracting men.Remember when he put out the tweet about how he just had to get on the bed and have a good long cry.
I'm sorry, crying, I understand if your dad dies or your mom dies or your dog dies, emotionally things that are tough, God forbid a kid dies, because you're upset about the direction the country is going, you go on social media and talk about how you had to have just a good long cry by yourself in your bed.
You pathetic, sniveling loser.What man that actually has a functional penis and maybe I'm establishing what Seltzer doesn't have would ever think to himself, this is what I should be putting out into the arena.
It staggers me that this has been in some way mainstreamed Broadcasting your own weakness and inability to handle different opinions is not a masculine strength.
On that point, Clay, about what the Democrat Party has become and what they have embraced, I think Alex Berenson had a particularly good short explanation of what went wrong here.He put this out on X, quoting Alex here.
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I can't believe these statements are even controversial.I mean, Berenson, I think, was a journalist, old school journalist at the New York Times.
We obviously respected him a lot and had him a lot on the show, and he was right, which I think is always worth reminding everyone on COVID stuff.
really right about all of it i can't remember anything he got wrong and he was right at a time when people were putting real pressure on us not to have him on this show and we kept having him on this show thank god rush built this house the unsinkable aircraft carrier of free speech that we have and that we try to wield for the benefit of the country but clay i look
Alex was a Democrat, okay?And he may even still consider himself a Democrat.And he did announce that he was voting Trump, did you see that?I didn't even see that, but yeah.
We should get him on to talk about it.He's just a rational person who has behaved rationally when he's seen illogic and absurdity.
What you've had are you've had a migration of Democrats who have principles that that endure and that they base their philosophy around Who maintain those principles?Elon Musk Alex Berenson RFK jr
Clay, I mean, you know, you're you're a convert, right?I mean, I am you.I'm not.You're a con.Not somebody.Yes.
You have had people who are rooted in principle in their thinking, who have just come to the unavoidable conclusion that the Democrat Party is in blatant and egregious violation of those underlying principles.And they just can't do it anymore.
And so they go to the other side.They're trying to bring the country into balance and into a better place, right?I mean, that is what has happened fundamentally.
I just feel like I was a few years ahead of Elon, a few years ahead of RFK Jr., a few years ahead of Tulsi Gabbard in my own political evolution, Alex Berenson deciding he's voting for Trump.
It's not because we agree with every single thing any politician says.You never should.It's because if you stand on principle, there's no way to argue in favor of Democrat positions right now.They're loony bin talk.
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This is part of the victory celebration is looking at your opponents as they just engage in this.
group therapy session and political circular firing squad we haven't even gotten into the best stuff yet about who's really to blame here, Kamala or Joe, Kamala or Joe, that's going to be fun because you're going to see more of that and the reason it matters to them is because whoever gets more of the blame there are people around those two candidates who will either go forward in their
Kind of elevated roles in the party or who will be part of the collateral damage, right?That's how this works Who's responsible for the absolute?
Butt-kicking that the democrats took here now as we know it's much broader even than biden or kamala the democrat party completely lost its mind Somehow with 2020 somehow and i'm just gonna say, uh You know You know
There's some stuff out there, folks, about 2020 now.You know what I want to say about this, Clay?I don't want to speculate too much.The good news is we have the phone numbers and contacts with all the different Trump people.
You know, between Hannity and all these other great friends of ours on the radio world and TV world, there's going to be a lot of connectivity between this administration and your favorite conservative hosts.
And so we'll be able to remind them of things like, hey, I think there should be an election integrity like task force assigned. to really get the data.I need an explanation for where those from our own side.
I don't want an explanation from like the Kamala Biden apparatus.I want our own side to be able to look into this and explain where these 13 million votes or whatever it is disappeared to.
The numbers are still coming in, but Kamala Harris is going to be eight, nine million votes behind what Joe Biden got in 2020. and Joe Biden's numbers were off the charts.
Meanwhile, Trump is going to exceed the numbers that he got in 2020, but by two or three million, right?Which will be the second most votes that have ever been obtained in an American presidential election.
I think a lot of people are going to go back, now that we get 2024, and they're going to go back and they're going to look at 2020 and say, how in the world did Biden manage to get 81 million votes?How did he exceed Hillary Clinton by 15 million?
How did he exceed Barack Obama's high watermark by 12 million?How did he exceed this Trump landslide by 8 or 9 million, potentially, or 5 or 6 million.These are real questions that an honest country would be asking in the wake of 2024.
They're important questions, too.Oh, yes.And I would also put out there that the so far the after action report the Democrats are doing on their own loss, other than the crying on comedy show, it's just hilarious.
And we can sit here and say it's all funny to you because I can promise you with 100 percent certainty, not that you need it.You already know this.Donald Trump is not a fascist. It's actually a really nice guy.If anything, he can be kind of too nice.
And in the past, at least, a little too trusting, I think, of some of the people around him.But Donald Trump's a really nice guy.He's not... Nice guy is not really the right way to put it.
I think he's a fundamentally... I think he's a fundamentally good person.You know, nice can be a little like, ah, you know, like, maybe Brian Stelter's nice.
But I think that Donald Trump is, at his core, I mean, look at his family, look at the people around him.He's a good person. He's not going to do any of these horrible things that he thinks are going to happen.He didn't do it the first time.
He's not going to do it this time.So this is why it's all mockery, right?This is why they deserve it, because they're hysterical for no reason.If they were hysterical over something that was actually going to happen, that's a different thing.
Here's PBS's White House correspondent, by the way, Clay, blaming the Kamala Harris loss on the right-wing media ecosystem.You just got to hear this analysis.Play four.
Maybe it's not so much Democrats policies or messaging or the words that they use specifically, but there is an entire right-wing media ecosystem.It doesn't exist on the left.It does not exist in the center or mainstream.
And people are getting their information in very different ways now.And Donald Trump and Republicans and Elon Musk and Joe Rogan know exactly how to reach Americans where they are, regardless of age and demographic.
And that played a big role in this because of the fact of like, whether it was disinformation, misinformation, or different propaganda that they were feeding to the American public that made them feel the way they did.
And the American public felt as though that they were being heard by Donald Trump.
The shorter version is we have given people access to the truth now in a way that they didn't have when PBS mattered.
Some of this is crazy to me. I don't know what world you can live in and think that the media is too biased to the right.
and that the left doesn't have a massive ecosystem that is an amazingly effective echo chamber at getting out whatever stories they want.
It was just a week ago, Buck, that their closing argument was Trump said he was going to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad and murder her because she disagrees with him politically.
It was just a little over a week ago that they said a joke from a Puerto Rico joke from an insult comedian was going to swing the election.
They have the ability with the New York Times and the Washington Post to impact elite discussion on a level that does not exist on the right in the country.This is important.
If I were out there and you said, Clay, where do you think there is a opportunity to create a new media outlet?I would say the Wall Street Journal doesn't count.
There's actually a huge marketplace out there for an incredibly smart, right-of-center daily news organization that would go head-to-head with the New York Times and the Washington Post. Because there is no functional equivalent right now.
I know there are competing outlets and I'm not trying to demean any of them.But nobody in written space has anywhere near the power of the New York Times or the Washington Post.Now Fox News obviously far bigger than MSNBC or CNN.
this show is what i mean i don't even know what the left-leaning version of this show would be but we have to fulfill a marketplace like the reason this show works because rush built a huge audience we maintained and grown it in many ways uh and that's because there's a huge market for what we're saying because it's not being served elsewhere
But if you told me, hey, Clay, where's the media environment opportunity in terms of impacting policy in a massive way, I would say to create a competitor for the New York Times and the Washington Post.That doesn't exist.
I think probably the New York Post is the most successful newspaper that, and I say newspaper because everything's online, not because I'm trying to insult newspapers, but it's not very similar.It's a tabloid.
It's not really the same aspiration as what the Times and the Post have done.
I want to take caller Jim in Minnesota here.It's got some, some sports ball talk that I think will help illuminate what's going on.Jim, thank you for calling it.
Hey, my pleasure.Thank you guys for all that you're doing.I think you guys had a big, huge part in Tuesday's outcome.Real quick.The left is like the football coach who's getting blown out in the first half.
They go into the locker room and they come out and they don't change anything. You know, and they wonder why they lose.And if I'm the coach on the other side, I'd be like, hey guys, keep going.
you're almost there, you're just a little more radical, and you'd have brought the ship in.And I'm like, keep it up, you guys, keep it up, because you just might cause more election results like we had on Tuesday in the future.
Thank you.I'm stunned by this, Buck.The lack of, this is what I say when you stand in front of the mirror, the lack of self-reflection and acknowledgement of creating the own landslide that you did. I thought they would be in denial.
I didn't think that some people out there would say, hey, the way to handle this is actually we need to go further to the left, which is what they're arguing.
Or the reason why this happened is because Hispanic people are now the, I guess, brown faces of white supremacy.Remember when they called Larry Elder, the LA Times did, the black face of white supremacy? Maybe people are responding to you.
This is what Sonny Hostin said, oh, all those voters down on the border in Texas, the reason they didn't vote for Kamala Harris is because they're misogynist.
And then Bill Mluge and I saw shared, actually, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton eight years ago.Maybe what you're selling, everybody is actually hearing, and they think it stinks. and they don't want to support it.
And I'm evidence of this, Buck, because I left.I was just like, I can't countenance this anymore.I can't sit around and argue that men should be able to compete against women.
I'm not willing to take the poison pill here and just go off the deep end to follow dear leader down the crazy rabbit hole of their insanity.
one of the things that if you have to pick up uh... true believer i mentioned at the air air coffers of uh... political analysis work from uh... you know from time time past there's also uh... who starved the ball was uh... french political social scientists and they talk about the role of chance and and shouting slogans in a crowd uh... this is
This is sort of why you'll see this, right?You know, whose streets are streets?You know, that was the Occupy Wall Street thing.You know, no justice, no peace is a big one for the social justice movement.
And what you find is that people, by the way, communists are very big on, I mean, true communists, right?Like communist parties around the world and throughout history.
Clay, they're very big on slogans and jargon because it's actually a way around, it's a short circuit to thinking.
So, the way that that comes up in the Trump context is, you know, January 6th, you know, the insurrection, Trump is a fascist, these become these reflexive, argument-ending short circuits to actual thinking, and the Democrat Party embraced this wholesale, and it's, that's, because of that, you don't even have them engaging on things like
Are you really okay with 10 million illegals pouring into the country in four years?Do you think that this is a good thing?If you are okay with it, then why do we have an immigration service?Why do we have immigration laws?Can anyone come here?
Why are there borders in any way?Exactly. So what happened is that because they have the jargon and the slogans, they never actually have to get to the substance in their thinking, and it keeps them on a perpetual offense.
They are the mob in the street chanting nonsense.You're never going to argue with them, right?When someone's saying, no justice, no peace, that just doesn't mean anything.It just means shut up, we're here, we're mobilized.
That was the Democrats going into this election.
Well, and I think we've seen two examples of articulate attacks on their vapid slogans.One was Ron DeSantis against Gavin Newsom in the Sean Hannity debate where Gavin Newsom got destroyed.
And I would say the other one, the other one was Tim Walz trying to go toe to toe with JD Vance and just getting obliterated.But that's rare, right?To our point, we've talked about this on the show.You did it with Bill Maher.
There's almost no cross exchange of ideas anymore.
I was thinking about this, like, do I want to just start going on CNN?I've kind of been inspired by our now banned friend.I kind of want to join the banned group, Clay.You, Ryan, you know, banned from CNN.I want to go on there.
If you guys want to discuss something, I'll be respectful until they're not, and then it's just going to be on, and there are going to be libs crying.I've thought about this now, because I do think
there's an opening now to take the take the debate and go on off you know to the other side and go on offense so um we'll see light us up with some calls here to my friends 800-282-2882 and remember julie kelly gonna join us gonna get into the more serious policy driven and justice issues here uh coming up about j6 is trump gonna is trump gonna do a lot for the j6
political prisoners and if you're sitting in a federal prison because you trespassed on federal property that's outrageous and there are people for whom that is their life right now and lives have been ruined over this and it's because of the jack smith's and adam shifts and the lunatic brigade of anti trumpers is there going to be some uh... some justice done we'll talk about that here come up in a second police sergeant christopher fitzgerald the temple temple university police department sustained fatal gunshot wounds while attempting to arrest a robbery suspect
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You have also now many of the January 6th defendants that are still in the process of being adjudicated.That is slowing down.
We'll ask Julie Kelly what we think about the process of pardons and whether she anticipates that happening for many of these defendants.Also, Buck, We maybe can dive in a little bit.
There's been a attack on Trump that was caught that was going to potentially lead to an assassination attempt from Iran, I believe.We will dive into this.But we were just talking about the collapse of legacy media.
And I think this is interesting as we finish off this hour.This is Van de Hey with the Axios company.I actually think they've done a pretty good job of building a new media company.
talking about how this election essentially means that there is no value to a large extent in legacy media.This is cut 15.
All of us have to come to grips with legacy media is just not as important as it thinks it is.And so if you just look empirically at the numbers, Joe Rogan is more important than any of us.He just has a much bigger
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