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all over the world.We love when we see our little download maps. And we have people on military bases in the Koreas and in or sorry, South Korea, not both of them, South Korea and in Germany.And maybe Kim Jong Un's a big fan, too.We never know.
You never know.I mean, we are pretty we are pretty good.We've been on the money lately.Kim Jong Un, maybe like these guys know something.But no, seriously, we thank all of the veterans.Bottom of our hearts.
What you do is well, what you do makes everything about America that is beautiful, that is free and that is prosperous possible.So thank you so much. On this veterans day, and I think everybody I said celebrate trump's victory over the weekend.
We'll celebrate veterans day today Maybe do something fun this week or this weekend as well.
We have a lot of news to get to you've got some There's sort of the aftermath component of this and that'll be a lot of fun because clay the libs the the shattered dreams of the communists it is so Fascinating.
How would you assess Morning Joe now?I know you shared a clip, but we'll get into this in detail I'm sure, but how would you assess their overall emotional state?
The entire legacy media apparatus is in full gaslighting mode.Everything that they said before today about Trump is Hitler, it's the end of democracy, they just act like they didn't say it.They're just moving forward.
I'm gonna tell you, there were parts of Morning Joe, I was watching this morning,
that you could have aired parts of it that you could have aired on fox news and people would have been like oh i got a new show on fox news they are moving in a they're talking about how wokeness is corrosive and how wokeness is crazy and
Identity politics is poison.This is on MSNBC.So we will get into all of that.Clay, I have some facts and figures for the aftermath here, but I also want to say we're going to dive into the future.Last week was Victory Dance Week.
Clay and I doing little dances, doing the Trump dance.It was amazing, beautiful, probably the most beautiful election of all time. And this week we can still bask in that glow, but now the work gets going.
Now the agenda, the future, the mission, the mission of Trump 2.0.Save America, save Western civilization along with it.That starts right now.
already appointments being made transition stuff underway in clay the senate battle we'll talk about senate leadership how they are are angling to get appointees through recess appointments art on of stuff going on there so we're gonna switch a little bit back and forth they've also got some great guests uh... come up later riley gains how much the trans issue and men and women's sports played into this uh... an attorney general uh... schmidt uh... will be with us as well talking about stuff in this on the senate side
So we'll dive into all of that, but Clay, just a few figures that we have now.Donald Trump has now clinched the biggest popular vote count by a Republican ever, 74.6 million and change.
So we'll call it basically on the way to 75 million votes, which beats the second highest number ever, which was Trump at 74 million votes.
eighty percent of counties eighty percent of counties nationwide moved to the right in this election house republicans look like they are about to take the majority unless something crazy happens in california and arizona
And we've got a couple of announcements, including Tom Homan as ICE director.Tom's a good man.I know Tom.We've had him on the show.Elise Stefanik coming out of Congress, going to be U.S.Ambassador to the United Nations.
Clay, it feels like they're assembling the A-team and they're hitting the ground running.
No doubt.Stephen Miller, our friend who's been on this show a ton of times, is going to be deputy chief of staff underneath of Susie Wiles's leadership.
I would, I mean, so far on the announcements of the new Trump administration, I think he gets an A plus. There doesn't seem to be anybody out there that is sort of a sniveling, you know, like, oh, I hope the New York Times likes me.
I hope the Washington Post is going to be favorable to me.It's just dyed in the wool.I know what my role is.I'm going to show up, and I'm going to go to work.And I love everything about the move so far.Now, we have Attorney General coming.
We'll talk a bit with Eric Schmidt at 130, Missouri Senator. He took himself out of the running for AG.He's had a lot of wins when it comes to big tech.We'll see what he thinks about who the AG is going to be.
You mentioned Riley Gaines is going to be with us, but I would say AG and Secretary of State Buck are the next really big announcements to drop.We should also mention that Trump has said that Nikki Haley
And also Mike Pompeo will not be in his administration.So he has gone ahead and kneecapped a couple of people out there that were being pushed.
And we've also got to figure out Senate Majority Leader, which is a big decision that's going to be made by Wednesday.
that's a huge thing right now because that goes to the trump cabinet it goes to all the appointees that have to be senate confirmed i think there's twenty something of them uh... and it it goes then to also the machinery the senate will have in place for judges will dive into this play i was up late last night reading about all this to make sure that the history and and you know that and i have a clarity on how this fight is likely to transpire i think you and i agree that uh...
this administration, they've got 18 months to change and possibly save the country.I mean, that's really how I see it.They've got 18 months.It's not four years.
Yes, four years for it all to play out, but within 18 months, they've either set this thing on a footing that is truly making America great again, Or, they're getting stymied by the machine.It is going to be a fight.No one should have any illusions.
The bureaucracy is tough.The bureaucracy will, on the swamp, the fourth branch of government, will fight with everything that they have.I think you mentioned this, Pompeo and Nikki Haley, they both ran against Trump.
and there he said they're not welcome in this and i would prefer he was actually pretty gracious about it he just look they're great love them they're not a part of this trump two point oh term he was he wasn't taking swings at them uh... but i think that what that is clay is a recognition that the establishment arian republican with the establishment republican is
not going to be able to work their way into the center of the trump administration uh... because he had too much of that in the first term too many people who all the sudden thought they knew better than the commander-in-chief and they started going and whining to the new york times and some of them even ended up turning on him entirely and you know getting contracts at cnn or abc or whatever so that's all uh... where we see it i gotta tell you will will dive into that senate confirmation issue right now which has to do with whether
Well, who will be the Senate majority leader?We know Republicans have won the Senate.We've got a few candidates.And how should top appointees go through?Because Democrats I'll give you the back story on this.
It was incredibly just underhanded and gross what they did in 2016 to Trump.We'll discuss that.But Clay, can we just throw out there, I don't know if you and I have exactly the same picks.I have a feeling we're pretty similar.
We know Stephen Miller, friend of the show, brilliant guy, can't say enough good things about him.Him being deputy chief of staff in the White House, assuming that, you know, that's been reported. Couldn't think of a better pick for that.
Tom Holman, couldn't think of a better pick for ICE.Susie Wiles just ran the best campaign that we've seen for the biggest victory we've seen in decades.So, you know, congrats and hats off to her as White House Chief of Staff.
Here's my others, if I can throw them out there.Caroline Levitt for White House Press Secretary, another friend of the show.We see talent here, I'm just saying.We know people who have got the skills.
Mike Lee, Ted Cruz would be great too, but I think he wants to stay in the Senate.Mike Lee for Attorney General.What do you think?
I think he would be fabulous.He's super smart.He understands the mechanics of how the Department of Justice works.There are guys that are not as constitutionally savvy that have been in the mix.
I think that Mike Lee, if he's the choice, and we'll ask Eric Schmidt who he thinks the choice could be, would be a great, great choice.Because I've said the Attorney General to me is the most important decision Trump has.
Look, all of the cabinet matters, but I think the Department of Justice is more broken right now than it has ever been in any of our lives.
And we need someone who can go in with a sledgehammer and just return the Department of Justice to its message, which is treat everyone equally under the law, regardless of their politics, race, gender, religion, all those things.
And we haven't had that for so long.This woke identity politics virus has infected our Department of Justice. has to be broken up, has to be fixed.That's the one that I care about the most.I think Mike Lee, if he's the choice, would do really well.
yes and i've heard some names that are in the mix for secretary of state right now uh... marco rubio recruit now and we've all these are all the names that are they're being bandied about who was the third that's bill haggard asian senator from tennessee senator haggard re you know i think all they're all competent and i think they're all dedicated to the trump mission so i don't have a particular standout in mind among that crew
The Secretary of State under Trump administration is going to have to deal with dismantling this axis that has grown, big piece in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend on this, where you have now Russia selling its oil to China and China supporting North Korea with
otherwise North Korea would fall apart and starve to death while North Korea sends soldiers to fight on the front lines of the Ukraine war there is an access and then using Iranian and probably North Korean missile technology and sharing that high-level military know-how between these various countries
There's some real concern there.So you have a Secretary of State who's got some big problems.I know China, Taiwan, Israel.Although, people are saying, do you see Doug Murray on this one?He was great.Doug Murray on the Mideast and Israel right now.
It is the best opportunity.I know Israel has been through hell.We know it was just the worst imaginable terror attack on October 7th.But the Israeli people have rallied.They have fought back against their enemies.
And Israel is now in a better place strategically in the Middle East than any time I can remember in my lifetime. because they've just decided the enemies are no longer going to be allowed to stay on the battlefield.
So there's a lot to do there, a lot to see.I just gotta say, Clay, overall, the feeling, and I'm talking to people as you are, who are working on this very closely, this Trump team,
Even they would admit, first time around 2016, it was kind of like, you know, we'll figure it out.You know, we're going to build the plane as we fly it a little bit.That was what it was, right?Trump was an outsider.
This is looking like a well-oiled machine that wants to get after the agenda day one, and I love to see it.
No doubt.And when Trump came in in 16, remember there were still a lot of people inside the party that did not believe in a lot of what he had run on.That doesn't exist now.
So, Mike Johnson, we're going to have a House majority that's going to be announced soon.I think maybe as soon as today, we'll have officially 218 in.
And then the Senate, we'll talk about this a lot during the course of the program, has got to pick their majority leader.But I think everybody's going to be moving in concert.And what you said, Buck, is so important.
You only really have 18 months to get things done.Then everybody starts running for the midterms.Trump will become a lame duck.Everybody will start running for president right after the midterms.
18 months to alter the trajectory of the country, fix a lot of what is wrong, That's when you have to hit the ground running, and it sounds like Republicans are going to be prepared to do that on a variety of fronts.
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Welcome back in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show, rolling through the Monday edition.I bet a lot of you had a lot of fun over the weekend, still celebrating the big Trump win.
I gotta be honest, I find myself every now and then just walking around smiling, like just thinking about what an unbelievable, outstanding victory Tuesday night was, and then watching the fallout, Buck, you and I were just talking about this off air.
I just see an entirely different response than what happened in 16.In 16 it was a stunned disbelief that he could ever have won.In 24, not only because he won but also because he's going to win the popular vote,
there is just a resignation almost that is setting in of hey we lost and this whole idea of the resistance the women's march and everything else i just i think it's broken uh in in many ways compared to 16.Trump is
Now they are recognizing just they're not going to be able to get rid of him.That's why I think it's interesting for you to be watching behind enemy lines on MSNBC.There isn't like this steel spine.We've got to bow up and stand up against him.
It's on some level a recognition that they blew it and that Trump is far more popular than they maybe had imagined.
I think they realize that when you've said that someone's going to be Hitler, and then very rapidly it will be clear to everybody, he's not Hitler.He's actually going to be great.It's going to go really well for the country.
You're going to see the economy, you're going to see energy production, you're going to see rule of law.I mean, so many things are going to be going well, and people maybe can even start to think, believe it or not, a little less about politics.
Wouldn't that be amazing?Not you.We want you to think about politics a lot of the time, listening to us.
But I mean, just generally in the country, people might be able to just, you know, just dial it down a little bit, not to worry about, you know, the woke insanity and the Fauci-ite madness and all these things we've been having to deal with.
Wouldn't that be great?But it's very hard for the media to process this for their audience without looking like the total frauds that they are.That's really where this is.I don't know.I think Trump derangement syndrome goes into remission.
I don't think that it is gone gone, but I think they're going to have to dial it down for a while.My belief is that they're going to wait for either Trump to really start the deportations. And that will become the new thing, right?
That will become a Russia collusion.That will become the central rallying point of the madness.
Or they're just hoping for some kind of a systematic financial correction, which we're unfortunately overdue for, hate to say it to everybody, in the markets, and then blame it all on Trump.That's what I see them doing.
I also think you're going to start to see an audition for who is going to be running in 28, and they're going to try to define themselves by being opposed to Trump to elevate themselves in the Democrat Party.
I would expect AOC, Newsom, Pritzker, Whitmer, Shapiro.There's going to be a bunch of those guys, governors and AOC, I would say, angling to try to be the lead alternative to Trump.
You see that reporting that Shapiro didn't want the VP slot?I said it on the show. Do you see this?This is out there.
I did see that.I also think it's smart for him to say that now to be fair because she's lost and then that makes him look smarter.It elevates him and they're going to hide Kamala.We'll talk about that when we come back.
She could light him up.I mean, just saying, like, you know, that's a rough game to play if you really wanted it and you didn't.I mean, I see what you're saying.
I'm just saying, I think Shapiro knew that she was not going to pull this off, but... Oh, he definitely is excited that she lost.
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Senate leadership battle, shall we?And what is being discussed right now?What's going on?We'll talk to I think I said A.G.Schmidt before.He was A.G.of Missouri.Now he's a senator.He was being talked about for attorney general.Right.
But he'll weigh in on on the Senate battle here as a senator in just a little bit with us.But here's here's what's happening as we sit here.And it's there's a lot going on.
The confirmation of Trump appointees is absolutely essential for both executing the agenda and reforming within the system or really from atop the system so that the swamp, the federal bureaucracy can't do what it did before.
This whole hashtag resistance thing, that crap has got to be Eliminate it right away.
Everybody who's not on board with the agenda got to be removed from their position, from the executive branch, from appointee positions, that there cannot be any, I'm just not going to do it.I don't recognize Trump's authority.
I had friends in the State Department, Clay, when Trump won the first time in 2016.They were telling me there are people who were just like, yeah, they can't do anything to us.We just won't do what he says.
I mean, they were so, and they were crying at their desks, of course.That was very sad.Dyeing their hair purple again, you know, being lunatics. This is what's going on right now.
We've got a few senators who are being talked about as possibilities here at the top of the list.Senators John Cornyn of Texas, John Thune of South Dakota, and Rick Scott of Florida.John Thune is the minority whip.
So it looked like, to me at least, Clay, Cornyn, Thune, there's a lot of, oh, it'll just be one of them.And people said, hold on a second.
mitch mcconnell's legacy does not necessarily get to just determined how this goes trump has weighed in elon has weighed in uh... many people have uh... many people have weighed in on the need to be able to get nominees through going back to the democrats is all history here democrats slow walked in the most childish ways trump appointees in twenty sixteen you know
You know, creating, you know, just extra long breaks, giving extra long speeches just just to be annoying just because they were such babies.Because Hillary didn't break the glass ceiling.
So this time around, there's a conversation about recess appointments and whether a Senate majority leader on the Republican side is willing to schedule it so that there would be a recess early after the inauguration.
So it would be like late January, early February, where critical appointments that they think they may run into some resistance on could be made. Clay, what do you think about this so far?
What does it tell us that Rick Scott seems to be surging as the, and, oh, can we actually just real, before you wait, real quick, we had him on, remember, last week.He made his case here to be Senate Majority Leader.
I heard it here before anywhere else.I'll just tell you, it's cut one.This is him a week ago.
Mitch McConnell is stepping down.Who, in your mind, Senator Scott, should be the next Majority Leader?How do you see it playing out?
Well, I believe I'm going to be the next Majority Leader because I believe what I've been talking about is exactly what Republican senators want.So I've been talking to my Republican colleagues.
As you know, I ran against McConnell back in 22, and here's what they want.They want change. They want to be part of the Trump mandate.They want to be treated as equals.They want to have a real agenda to get things done.
They want to be part of a team.They know we need to work with the House.And so that's what I've been talking about.I've been talking about it since I ran against McConnell.And they know I'm a business guy like Trump.
They know I've got a great relationship with Trump.They know I have a great relationship with the Speaker, Mike Johnson.And here's what business guys do. We get results.Our country is in trouble.That's why Trump won.He's got a mandate.
I think my colleagues know that I'll have a plan to get Trump's nominations done.I'll have a plan to get Trump's agenda done.I'll have a plan to get the tax cuts done.You know, I'll have a plan to get stuff done.
So that was Senator Rick Scott basically announcing his candidacy in a big way with us on Thursday.I think it's fair to say that he has surged since that interview.And look, the vote is supposedly happening on Wednesday.It is not public.
There have been all sorts of leaked ideas of who's voting for who.Some people have put out statements saying who they support. I think it's going to be very, very close.
And I don't know if Trump's going to officially weigh in and say, I want this guy.If he did, I think that person would be the Senate majority leader.
And Twitter is taking on basically a huge role in how this vote's going to be shaped, because Thune and Cornyn have spent
decades planning for when Mitch McConnell is going to step down, the idea that they were going to be the next man up, so to speak, Senate Majority Leader.And now Rick Scott is saying, I've been the biggest Trump supporter of this trio.
Given Trump's popular vote win, an overwhelming landslide, we should be as supportive as Trump as possible.I will be the guy now. Thune and Cornenbuck have both been publicly critical of Trump pretty extensively.
Both guys, after the Access Hollywood tape came out, basically backed as far away from Trump as they could be, both guys have been, at times, impediments to the Trump agenda.
And so, I understand why, if you are an absolute MAGA diehard out there, why you would say, I don't want either of these guys. I want Rick Scott to be the Senator who is helming this majority ship.
You're going to have 53 Senators, congrats to our buddy Dave McCormick who is the 53rd, lost narrowly Eric Hubdee, Mike Rogers, Kerry Lake, and Sam Brown.
Buck, just a little bit more of a twist, I think if Trump had a little bit more money, I think if those guys had had a little bit more money,
I think we'd have 57 senators right now because, and that would have been seismic in terms of its overall legacy and impact.And by the way, Hung Kau didn't lose by very much in Virginia either.
A little bit more money, and I think we'd be talking about 57, 56-ish senators right now.But my thought is, and I know it's a private vote, I think it should be a public vote. That would be my biggest takeaway.
Don't do a closed ballot where people don't have to publicly explain why they're making their choice.And a lot of senators are coming out and saying, this guy's got my vote or whatnot.
I don't like the idea of a closed ballot where you aren't able to see who exactly gets the votes and how your respective senators are voting.
That to me seems rational if you're gonna give somebody this big of a job, arguably Buck, other than Mike Johnson in the house,
Senate majority leader alongside of Trump are the three most important and and distinctively powerful jobs that are going to exist come January 25.
What do you think about doing the recess appointments to get around the growing opposition tactics that Democrats have really been honing against Trump to just make things go as slow and be as annoying as possible for it?
Look, I'll say this, as long as they have the ability to get over 50, and we know we're going to get over 50, presumably all 53 Republicans are going to be voting for Trump's nominees, once you know you've got the 50 plus 1 or the tie break with J.D.
Vance, basically you have a 3.5 vote majority because you could lose 3 and still break the tie with J.D.Vance, that's pretty significant.
I think the idea of we're going to have grandstanding and we're going to have people fighting against the Trump appointments, I want everybody in their jobs, at their desks, going to work as soon as the inauguration happens.
So if that requires recess appointments because they're going to otherwise drag their feet, I'm all for it.And we're seeing the feet dragging already starting.Buck, and we're going to talk about this with Eric Schmidt at 1.30.
Chuck Schumer's not allowing McCormick to show up for orientation.Outrageous.Because they're election denying.I get it.Yeah, it's just petty.In Pennsylvania.
They have nothing else to do, so they're trying to throw up whatever smokescreen, whatever nonsense they can.Look, it's very straightforward.
If you look at no votes on cabinet nominees by President Clay, total, meaning counting up every no vote for every cabinet official from different administrations, Truman 37, Ford 50, Carter 49, Reagan 124.
Obama 406 Trump 437 the record this is a recent thing.
This is an abuse and Republicans Decided that they don't want to deal with this nonsense anymore it's not supposed to be just some opportunity for foot dragging and grandstanding and pulling fire alarms and I
I need a bathroom break, you can't actually get a vote.Sorry, enough of that Alinsky, that's all Alinsky crap.
I think you need to get the people that you need in the roles that they're going to get into anyway, and these games of delay, Trump should just be able to run a steamroller over it, it's nonsense.
I agree.I agree.And I think all three, to be fair, Trump put this out, and all three candidates, Thune, Cornyn, and Rick Scott, all said, yeah, he's right.
We're going to be using recess appointments aggressively to get everybody in position so they can do their job.So I give credit to Trump for already saying, we got to hit the ground running.Because to your point, Buck, you got 18 months.
Four years, I understand it's great to think about.You got 18 months to get everything rolling.
I'm going to throw a question to you, but I want you to hold it so that people can listen when they come back.Is it a mistake, once again, that Democrats will regret that Sotomayor is making by saying she's not going anywhere, not stepping down?
Good question. All right, look, President-elect Trump is busy, as you know.Chief of staff has been announced, Susie Wiles, Tom Homan, to oversee the borders, Elise Stefanik, UN ambassador.There are reasons for tremendous optimism right now.
But they have a massive challenge that they have to tackle.And one of the biggest ones is the $35-$36 trillion, soon to be, in debt that we already have.Look.
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I'm going to be down in Athens this weekend for the Tennessee-Georgia game, part of big noon kickoff for Fox, and a lot of you out there celebrating all weekend long, I know, over the Trump win. Maybe you need a little pep in your step.
Caffeine will help.And it's healthy compared to soda.This is the biggest change I've made over the last few years.I used to not drink coffee.I drink Mountain Dew all the time.Truth be told.My wife's been on me for years.I finally gave up soda.
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I promise with this pen.Actually, it's a Sharpie pen, but similar to this pen, I have been signing them.Buck, you asked the question as we went to break.Is it a mistake that Sonia Sotomayor is saying now publicly that she will not step down?
She's 70 years old.She has diabetes.Yeah.
I do think, I mean, my take in general is if you cannot fly an airplane for a big public company, which I think your father-in-law would know this better because he's a pilot, but I think the age is basically 62 or 65.I'm not sure which one it is.
You're not allowed to fly a jumbo jet once you get to that age because they can tell that your overall skill set has diminished. If you don't have that ability, I think that you should step down.
And this will become a discussion, I think, Buck, at some point over some of the older justices on the Republican side, too.
If you desperately care about your legacy and you want to preserve a constitutional view that you consider to be so worthy that you have given your life's pursuit to it,
I would encourage people, they know their health better than most, but once you get over 70, lots of things can happen.Yeah, if you already have diabetes and you're not in great health like Sonia Sotomayor is.
If I were Democrats, I would want her stepping down.Because frankly, you saw what happened with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.They tried Buck to brag about how incredible shape she was in.And now Amy Coney Barrett's on the Supreme Court.
Did you ever see those videos?
Oh, yeah.They made all these videos.She's like, yes, I'm bench pressing.Look at me now.And she had little weights in her hands and stuff.And there were Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Workout dolls.It was a bizarre cult of RBG for a while.I didn't get it.
So anyway, and it wasn't the right move to tell her to keep staying in there.Yeah, you shouldn't be, you know, people get, they slow down.They get older to spend some time with the grandkids or go do some nice charity work somewhere.
Go do some pro bono.Like give me a break.This is ridiculous.You don't be Supreme court justice till you're a hundred.
I also think, and this is the sad part, there are people in all different facets of life, this is the case, she doesn't have anything else. I think that's the reality.I mean, I hope that when I'm 70 plus years old, I hope I got a bevy of grandkids.
I hope I'm chasing them around.I hope that I am kicking my feet up and relaxing some.I think a lot of these people, Sonia Sotomayor is evidence of it.If she doesn't have that job, what else does she have in her life?
That's why I don't think she's leaving.
I would offer that there's always Things that can be done that help people, that add, that are positive, that are appreciated, that make a difference.But for some people, they don't want to give up the reins of power.
They don't want to give up being important.And that's a different thing than having purpose.We all can have purpose every day.Being productive, being kind, being loyal, being helpful.
But not everybody gets to be deciding the fate of the law system that we live under in the Republic, right?So you see a bit of that.You see a lot of it in media, by the way.
No doubt.When we come back, Buck, let's talk about the popular vote and what the significance may be going forward of the win that Trump just banked. Improve your golf game and practice with a purpose.
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