What's poppin', congregation?It's your girl Lacey Mosley, aka Scam Goddess.Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault.
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Guys, I'm joined by the person who gave me my name, Scam Goddess.Guys, Miles Gray, the myth, the man, the legend.
Thank you so much, Lacey. Thank you for having me here.
Thank you for being here.
I'm so glad that this is a show because scams is all you know.
Yes, you have a propensity for the scams like none I've ever seen.And yes, to be a part of the show is an honor for me to actually come on.
I'm so happy to have you.Miles, what is your relationship with scams?
You know, I think like anybody you've benefited from a scam, not like me being the perpetrator of a scam, but knowing people who dabble in the arts to get you something on the low.For example, a two-way pager.
At first I had a Skytel Timeport two-way pager.
What did you need a pager for?Were you selling drugs?
Yes, yes, of course. But not dope.I was just selling weed.So I wasn't like living that kind of life.But all the rappers I loved were all like cocaine rappers.
So you were your one man dispensary.
And I was acting like, yeah, like I'm the first dude to move away from a Palm Pilot.But I wasn't.I had a fucking sidekick.
But I really wanted the time for it, because if you remember the fabulous legendary song, Youngin, Pimpin', here's a new way to flirt.Now listen to the two way alert.It goes boop. Let's go VIP, boo, raise your skirt, holla back, yo, yo, woo, woo.
Yes, so I wanted a time port pager.I never knew the lyrics to that.Oh, really?No.I know almost all the lyrics from that first Ghetto Fabolous album.I think it came out on 9-11.Just a quick fact for some of the listeners out there.
So while everyone else was devastated, you were like, I love that!
I was like, F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S.Definitely provoke tax on the U.S.Yeah, and I love the time port and I had a homie.I won't say your name.Okay, we'll just call him J-Boy.J-Boy's a homie and he had a scam where his aunt worked for this bank.
And she was in charge of all of like the company phones and things for the company.So if you needed a company cell phone, a company page or whatever, she would basically process all the paperwork and then distribute it.
And this was like a global company.So the amount of phones and things that were being sent out were wild.And occasionally what would happen is, She could, like, fuck the numbers up a little bit and add, like, two extra to an order to a division.
And then J-Boy would get them and it would be like, yo, give me 300 bucks.This shit will work for at least eight months.
And I had that shit.I had I got that one.The first only worked two weeks. And I was like, bro, this is, help me out.Like we were close.He was like, okay, let me get you another one.That one worked.It wasn't the color I wanted.That's okay.
I wanted silver.You got me in black.And then I wanted the three-way pager, which is again, more fabulous lore.
In the video for Hollaback, what he actually has in the video as a prop is not a two way, but the accompli three way that had a cell phone in it, too, and had a little earbud used to work with it.And I had that on my big ass fake Louis Vuitton belt.
And I was the scam lord.And I had that shit worked for about nine months.
So you basically were in like a crime uniform.You just looked like someone who did crime.
Meanwhile, they're like, yeah, he grew up middle class in the Valley.But you know, I'm just trying to look cool.But yeah, that was like, you know, scams like that I was into.When it came to... I mean, really, I don't like deceiving people.
And when I even used to sell cars, like when you sell cars... You sold cars?Yeah, I used to sell cars.
Miles is a con artist.We all know the car salesmen.
They are the only legal scammers left.Because this is what you do.You come in, like, let's say it's a husband and wife coming in.I sell Dodge.So they look at the truck and I would be like, Oh, yeah, man.Dodge Ram.Yeah.Thirty five hundred.
That has a Cummins turbo diesel on there.Now you're probably going to be towing something with this because it's got a lot of power here.This is not just for joyriding.He's like, well, you know, I got a boat.Oh, man.Yeah.My dad had a boat, too, man.
Your dad didn't have no damn fucking boat.
And that's what they always say, the people who used to train me, they're like, whatever they say, say you do that too, or your parents did that too.
So if they ask you too many deep questions, then you just say, oh, well, you know, that was a long time ago, I don't remember.That's scam number one.
Play on to people's narcissism, right?
Yeah, exactly.Mirroring.Yeah, mirroring.
Because if you can just show people themselves, they feel more comfortable, they feel like they know you.
Yes, even if you're some Blasian kid sweating in a fucking overly baggy dress shirt and stained khakis, smelling like Carlo Wasi sangria. Which was me.
Please tell me it wasn't like a blue collar like button down.
It wasn't.No, it was a white, white, white dress shirt.But like I didn't have at the time, you know, like when you're out of high school, like you don't have like dress clothes because you go to men's warehouse and you get it.
That's where you go to get a suit for a funeral, for court.
Exactly.For someone's baptism, funeral, all that stuff.
But at the time I wasn't going to many of those.So I was like wearing like my dad's old dress shirts that were like fucking yellowed from the eighties.Yeah.And he would say shit like that.
And always he would say, if there's, if they're there with their spouse, always engage the spouse.Don't let more than one minute go by without engaging the spouse.Cause let me tell you something, man.
If she's, if she's checked out and she thinks you're just talking to him, guess what, man?The neck, it turns the fucking head. That's the saying, the neck turns the head.
It's like, so if you leave her out there and she's checked out, she will turn the fucking head, meaning she will get the man to go. So they said, always engage them, compliment them on their jewelry, compliment them on their clothing, whatever.
Sexism 101.Yeah, no, it really was.
Tell the lady she looks pretty.
Exactly.And then go from there.But when it came down to closing deals, I just wasn't able to tell them, like, this is the best deal or whatever.
Oh, you couldn't do the lie?
Nah, I was good at small talking people.When it came down to the thing.
You gotta believe the lie yourself.You gotta be like, this is the best deal that I'mma give you.This the best deal you gonna give from me.
But see, I knew in my mind, I'm like, nah, this doesn't feel right.Like I'd rather just sell like rich kids pills or something.I don't feel bad scamming them.I'd rather like people who like need a truck or like a van for their family.
Okay, the guy said he had a boat.I would imagine he's not like the poorest guy.
Yeah, well see, at the time when you're 19, 20, you're, You're like this poor guy who has a boat.And half the time I was so hungover.Like this was a job I got through my friend's dad because like his dad was like one of the managers at the lot.
So I was just... Nepotism.
It was all nepotism.The oldest scam.Yeah.And but like the thing was, I fucked up.I could not, I barely made money because I wasn't good at like closing.Like for when I had to when it mattered.
So you was just chatting with people and you wasn't getting no coin.
And my eye went off the prize and see, that's why now I'm a podcaster.
So guys, used cars.Were these used cars or were these new cars?
New cars, but the used cars.Used cars is the biggest scam.The one time I sold a car, it was a used car, because someone just wanted, you know, they're like, I really like this Honda.And I was like, well, we have one here.They got it.
But you make the most money, because usually when people come in to get their new car, they're like, you want to trade in your old car.And then we offer them dog shit. So I would be like, okay, you want this new Magnum, Dodge Magnum.
You gotta- You were selling a lot of Dodges.
I was on a Dodge lot, yeah, yeah.I was only selling Dodge.
And they would- Who drives a Dodge?
A lot of people, a lot of cops.Also, not masculine dudes compensating with a V8.
Yeah, so people who shave their head- They beat their meat, is what they do.With a Venus razor.
Exactly.Google has moisturizing strips.You don't want to fuck your scalp up.And, uh, yeah.
So what you would do is you would basically just offer them a fraction of what the actual blue book value was and be like, well, if you trade that and we'll give you like three grand forward, we turn around and sell that shit for eight.
So then if you sold that, that was a $5,000 profit you can make off that car.
Oh damn.And what was your commission?
You would get like, depends on like how high up you were.I wasn't getting that much.Not enough that I was like, oh boy.
So there was also a scam in that.What do you mean how high up you are to get more commission?You should get the same commission.
Well, there are other people who are like, like the closers, like depending on how much work they were doing, right?Cause like, I might just bring somebody in and then they would, then the manager would actually close the deal.
And then like, we would split that. You know what I mean?So if I took them end to end, if they're just like, I'm ready to go, then I would take the commission.
But if I was also enlisting the help of a manager to help do all this other stuff, then we'd be like, yo, we can split it.They'll be like, you can take the bulk, just give me a taste.
And you probably needed that manager because you weren't good at the lying part.
No, no.And I didn't last in that shit at all.Didn't last in that at all.So then I got into politics.
He went from one scam to the next.Well, guys, used cars, the biggest scam.Also, you talking about your friend's mom who had control over all of these cell phones and stuff like that was a thing.
People, when they were working, would get a business phone. Is that a thing anymore?I feel like that's not a thing.My dad got his phone bill paid by his job because he uses his phone for work.
I mean, look at our generation.Who do you know who has a fucking corporate anything?No.That are our age.Especially in this town.
They're like, use your own goddamn phone.
I think that's because corporations just had money to fucking burn.They're like, I don't know, let's give everybody phones.
If I asked for a phone now, I don't know what the answer would be.I'm like, yo, Jack, let me get a phone.
Yeah, no, that people just don't do that shit.And if that's the kind of job you don't want, like people, actually, I know two people who have corporate anything.And it's like, I sell medical equipment.I'm like, another scam. Yeah, oh boy.
Well damn, but like anyone being in charge, one thing I love about a good scam artist knows that if you're the only person in charge of something, like that's the best way.Like there's no one to check you.
Like you can just fucking, so she was out here sending out phones and fucking with it all.Who's gonna check her?
Nobody.And I even asked, I saw him the other day, I was like, yo, what's up with that aunt?And he was like, she's still doing it.Like, well at least never got caught, but she's still in that job.
Well, let's move on, Miles, to my favorite segment of this show, Historic Hoodwinks.Oh, also, guys, if you have some scams, if anything's happened to you, I feel like an ASMR person today.I'm doing like smooth jazz voice.Tell us about your scam.
Email us at scamgoddesspod at gmail.com and let us know about your scams that you're running or I really feel like I sound like I'm on fucking, Jesus, NPR.
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So, historic hoodwinks.Today- What's this?
Just like scams from history?
Yes.Wow.The scams that we love.The people who have really just made their mark as scammers.This guy, he's called the Tinder Swindler.Do you like that name?
Wait, is this the dude who, oh no, go on.
No, go ahead, who do you think it is?
Is this the dude who's running out on dinners?
No, not that guy.That guy was also doing small time shit.
OK, but pardon me.I forgot I'm on scam goddess, not scam intern.
All right.So this is Historic Hoodwinks.And today we're talking about a guy that I really love.His name is Simon Leviv.
Yeah.No, no, no, no, no.This is international.
Oh, I'm sorry.Yeah, I was in Europe.So to me, America is international.
What a perspective.Yeah.So Simon Leviv, his real name is Shimon Hayut, which I thought was interesting because it's like kind of close to Simon.He was like, my name is Shimon.
Shimon Lee.Shimon.Shimon with your motherfucking money, man.
He was like, I was named after a Michael Jackson ad lib.
Shimon.This is my sister.
Did you know mama say mama sa ma ma ku sa is like, I'ma say it and I'm never gonna stop or something like that?
Like it's real words?What do you mean?In what language?In English?
Yeah, Michael Jackson was saying real words.
No, it's mama say mama sa.
No, what are you talking about?
It's like, I'm gonna keep going and I'm not gonna stop.
The words is what he's saying, and I'm gonna say I'm not gonna stop?
No, he's saying, I'ma keep going and I'm not gonna stop.Not mama say mama sa ma ma ku sa.
How the fuck, why is everybody else saying that shit then? No, hold on.Is that for real?
I'm looking at Cody like, please tell me this is a fucking simulation.
But there's a part... And we made it... No, hold on, hold on.
Even in the breakdown where the instrumental drops out and it's just the crowd is... Are you for real?
Something like that, yeah.
It's not Mama Say Mama Sama Maku Sama.
Now you all know, guys.Now you all fucking know.
That's some Mandela effect shit right there.Are you, okay, I'll look at this later, because I can't.
We all truly believe that.
I'm going through enough right now.
So Shimon is the Tinder swindler.That's what he's famously known as now.He seduced and swindled young women for millions of dollars, and he was a fugitive from justice in several countries.He actually just got picked up.
Wait, so he, wait, where does Tinder come in?He was meeting Erises or something?
So he would get on Twinder, no, no.
Not even Erises.He would get on Tinder and meet regular, everyday, like, leggings and Ugg boots.Ugg boots.
And caramel macchiato women.
Right.You know what I mean?
Like the most just basic pumpkin spice hoes.
Oh, yeah.And... Yes, with Lipgloss.
Sponsored by Mac Lipgloss.
Yeah, Juicy Tubes and L'Oreal, you know, just regular women.
Oh, yes.Body Fantasy, honey.Okay.They wearing Body Fantasy.
He was getting Body Fantasy bitches.
So he would swipe right on these women and then he would seduce them by taking them on private jets and like to luxury hotels and basically using the money from the last woman that he conned to start the finesse of the next woman that he was conning.
Oh, so but every time he was he was living jet life with them.He was like, this is how it is.Yeah.We will ball till we fall.
He was like, come on, do you want to we're flying out tomorrow to go to Bulgaria.You down?
Oh, yes, Shamone.Shamone.Wait, so how did fucking Shamone get the money?
So he would get it from the previous woman.
Okay, but like what, you know.
So we're gonna get into it.
Okay, I'm sorry.I'm like so excited.I'm like, how's he paying for this though?
So he, there's this, one of his most famous swindle of women, her name is Cecile Schroeder-Figure.I can't say that, I'm not xenophobic guys, I swear.I just can't say this one. I'm just ignorant.I'm just ignorant.I'm not xenophobic.I'm ignorant.
I'm just ignorant.That's all.So this woman, Cecile, for months, she believed that they were in a relationship.She had daily contact with him.She was given access to his text messages, videos, like everything.Like they would talk a lot.Right.
So she met him on Tinder.They had a quick date.He like hit her up on WhatsApp.They started talking immediately.They met at like 10 o'clock, which we all know is like fucking time.
A 10 o'clock date is penis.
10 o'clock date is no condoms either.
I'm sorry.Nobody's using protection at a 10 o'clock date.
10 o'clock, if the date starts at 10, I'm sorry.We're raw, we're raw.This is what's gonna happen.Patton and Spock, oh shit, I forgot I don't have condoms.
Oh damn, because it's a 10 o'clock date, I don't got no condoms.
10 o'clock dates, I used them on my last one, because if you were someone I'm safe with, that's a 7 o'clock date.
Listen, if we had met at 7 and had dinner, then I would have had some magnums, but.
The store is closed, girl.
Just once you blow out that chip bag.
Right.Do you want to turn your flashlight on your phone and inspect my genitals?
Rub a lemon, rub a lemon all over it.No sores.I won't be like, ah.Rub a lemon on it.Yo, that was like the fucking.
Don't be like, yo, squeeze a lemon around there, see what happens.If they be like, ah, ah, ah, then you know it's active.
Or maybe you have dry skin.Because we can't afford STD tests.If you have dry skin.That's like some shit.
We can't afford STD tests.
We squirt lemons on things.Fucking citric acid.I don't know, I don't have money for a lab test.
Look, I don't keep condoms in my purse, but I do keep a lemon.
Wait, why you got all them lemons?Hence lemonade.
Oh wow, you gonna put that on Beyonce?
No, no, don't come for me.But no, that was like some shit we used to say in high school.I remember like an older kid in high school was like, you gotta check with lemons if there's something down there. And I was like, okay, bro.
So one week after her first date, where she... I'm sorry, we were just talking about the skin.We got into lemon STD checks.
No shame if you have any kind of STD, you know what I mean?It's all good.It's all positive.Don't mean to shame nobody.I'm just talking from my ignorant past where we used to say dumb shit like that.
So, four weeks after their first date.So their first date is like 10 o'clock raw sex.Maybe with Lemon, maybe without.And then they meet again the next day.He's like, do you want to come to Bulgaria with me?And she's like, I have to finish my thesis.
She's in grad school.So she's like, I have to type on my MacBook.And he's like, bring your MacBook.We got wifi in the air, baby.
He's like, I have an Acer Chromebook.And that's when she should know it was a scam. Where were they leaving from?Where was he trying to lure this person from to Bulgaria?
So, Norway.Wow, okay.So this all happens abroad.Okay.Or no, no, no, in London.They start in London.She's from Norway.
Okay, but he's trying to say like, yo, let's go from London to Bulgaria because you know, that's a, everybody's going to Bulgaria right now.
So what he does for a living, quote unquote, is he is a diamond, like a salesman, a jeweler.Broker.Yeah, broker.
And he's like, you know, these are commodities, they're very expensive and the market is very tough and cornered, you know, and like that comes a part of this whole thing.
So he has changed his name to LaViv because there is a very famous billionaire who runs a diamond company and his last name is LaViv. So when she Googles him, he's like, that's my daddy, I'm his son, and so I'm rich because of him.
But if you Googled him, nothing would come up, you're like, well, my dad.
I think he took one of the children's names.
And I mean, I think that if she had done, this is in 2011.Okay, you have no excuse.So I'm like, you have no excuse, because I'm like, you could have gone on the gram,
Anything, tagged photos, figure it out.
But after you get on a jet, I think that's why he gives them the jet so early, because it's like once I get them on a jet, you ain't gonna look up nothing.
Right, exactly.Because nobody came on a jet and be like, tickets please.
And on this jet, he had his bodyguard.You guys can't see, but I'm putting up air quotes, bodyguard.And he also had his business manager.So these people, and I don't know who these people were, but you know you got a real scam when you got employees.
You know what I mean?Like other people who reaping the benefits.
But they're also in on this game as well, right?
Okay, I was hoping that even the employees were like, I really thought I was in an internship with this person.
It was unpaid. We did a lot of like, but he said I was getting college credit.
Right.To his bodyguard, his friend's like simple cousin who was like, yeah, man, I'll get you a belt.
Such simple payment requirements here.So, she's flying around on these planes with him and all these people, and she said that everyone on the plane spoke to him like he was super important, blah, blah, blah.
And so, after this encounter, she's smitten.She's head over heels, they're texting every single day, all day long.Boo, love, you know how it is when you're texting somebody all day long.
You know when you wake up and you text them and you be like, how'd you sleep?
Oh, I woke up and honestly, the first thing I thought of was, why aren't I with you right now?I missed you last night.Yo, I missed you last night.
I missed you last night.So sweet.
Next time you come here, you have to spray some of your cologne on my car so I can smell you.
I would do that.I would leave little things too.I would leave like a little shirt or something there.Like, oh my God, I love that.
Okay, so what did you need to get?My checking account, the routing number?
This is to direct deposit me money so I could come see you on trips So they're boo-loving extra hard and he was supposed to come back to London to see her but he's like I can't come back to London They don't really explain why he can't go back to London to see her again, but that's where he met her, right?
It's an international relationship, right?
Oh, shit, okay, I see what happened.
Yeah, so he's traveling around a lot and that he adds, you know, that he cannot return to London.He then starts to tell her that what he does is dangerous and that people are threatening him.
Oh, the police, you mean law enforcement?Because he just dipped out on London Pride because he pulled some shit there.He's like, it's fucking hot for me.So I'm going to get the fuck out of here.Do you want to come with me to Bulgaria?
So the honeymoon happens, right?They're like falling in love.They're talking about renting a flat together.And now she's looking at houses.
Yeah, in London town.She's going to open houses.She's going to open houses and she's taking a gander.
Yeah, you know, for love.And so she meets him in Amsterdam twice, but he never comes back to London.And that's because he's wanted there.
For?Scams.For scamming the last person?
Yeah, so, oh, and we'll break off just to tell you a little bit about what he's wanted for in London.He did, so he was babysitting at one point.
Damn, he really, hey, you know what?Salute to the scam artist, you know what I mean?No scam is too little.Be like, yo, look, I gotta put in some hours as a babysitter real quick.
I'm making like $15 an hour.
Or else I can't go to the jet.You'll see, you'll see, it works.It all comes out of the wash.But yeah, right now I'm an au pair.And I'm watching this child.
It was like a very big leap from like jet scam to babysitting scam.
Wait, so what the fuck was he doing as a babysitter?
So he was babysitting and he was doing it and stealing checkbooks from the family.
And writing hot checks, you know, and stealing their money.And they confronted him, they called him, which I thought this was fucking weird.The family was like, you're not who you say you are.
But like, they did this while he was babysitting the child.They called him up and was like, We found out that you're writing fake checks and we know that you're a scammer, but he had their child at the time.
For real, because right now we're at the top of Big Ben.That's wild.Me and your baby is at the top of Big Ben clock tower and I'm feeling real throwy right now.
I just feel like, not throwy.I feel like if I'm going to confront somebody about some shit, I'm not going to do it while they have my child.I'm going to wait until I get my kid back.
You think this Graco stroller could fly?
Also, I don't think that you should underpay people who watch your children.I used to babysit, and if you are trying to get a cheap, you can get cheap everything else, but for babysitters, pay the most.
Because if you don't, your babysitter's going to be playing Candy Crush while your kid's under the kitchen sink drinking bleach like you got a kid.
You got to make sure they care about the kid, at least care about the money that they're making.
At least, man, I babysat one time and that shit was too much for me.I realized I was fucking up.I was like, yo, I'm not, I don't have my shit together enough to watch this child.I was like, thank you so much.I think this will be the last time.
They're like, was something wrong?I was like, no, I just can't explain it.
I felt like I was gonna kill him.
Yeah, I'm just high on mushrooms and I didn't realize you couldn't do both at the same time.I respectfully resign.
Well, this guy, yeah, so he was writing these checks and they called him up and they were like, we know that you're a scammer while the child was in his possession.And you know what he does?
He's like, the jig is up and he leaves and he leaves the kid.
He just walked up and left?
The baby wherever the fuck he was?
And it's still, he left the child.So once the jig was up, he left the child in a stairwell.
Wow.Wow.That's fucking ballsy.Also, cause I'm thinking you just added another charge to your shit.
Well, yeah, if you just left it, that's like child abandonment.I don't think that's a thing.
Oh, is child abandonment a crime?Yes.
If you were a babysitter and you just left a child in a fucking stairwell, I'm sure- If you gotta go, you can't just leave?I don't know.Babysitters, please call in.Let us know.Is there additional charges if you leave the child in a stairwell?
Because I feel like, well, maybe if nothing bad happens, but I'm sure that's child endangerment at best.If it's a baby, it's not like he left a 13-year-old.
But that scammer 101 is like, the jig was up, and so he just got out of dodge.
You know what?Although at the same time, those parents are stupid. for even doing that.
Yeah, like why would you confront somebody when they have your child?Like, hey, hello, excuse us.
Excuse me, yeah, I wanna let you know.
Mr. LaViv, we found out that you've been writing hot checks.
No, it wasn't me.No, it was you.It wasn't me.
Listen, we're calling the police.
But did Michael have his, did he have his vegetables?
The child did have his vegetables, and it's also got a box cutter to his throat right now, too. So I'll be ready for that shit.I'll be ready for this on your conscience.You fucking out your mind, you threatened me when I got your kid here.
We didn't think this through.We did not think, I mean, but that's also, that's kind of genius.I wonder if that's like a built-in security thing he built into his scams, right?
Because I guess you wouldn't go too, well, these parents are wild for even pressing him when he had the kid, but imagine if you did, you would negotiate something like, well, I got your kid right now, that's weird.Right.
So you probably gonna shut the fuck up about this, right?
Him just being like, peace, and just left the fucking kid in a stairwell.
I think that's better off though, because if you do a kidnapping sitch, then that's like some shit.
Yeah, he wants money.He's not trying to like threaten people.
But also, how wealthy were these people that this person managed to steal a checkbook, wrote all these fucking checks, and then they're only putting it together later on?
they must've had some money.I feel like when, I knew I was, I started to make money when somebody hit me up and was like, yo, the hotel charged us $300.And I was like, what, they did?And I didn't realize.
I didn't see $300 leave my account.
What?Oh, maybe to you.What's 300 even?I don't know.
I don't know.What is that?Like a dinner?
That's the drink tab, okay?How many Magnums are we drinking?
So 12 weeks after the first date, and I would like to say this guy plays the long game, right?Because in 12 weeks, you think you're in a relationship, right?That's three months, right?
So that's when the walls start coming down.That's when you start leaving your dirty drawers.That's when you start, you know, like you stop going to the bathroom in the morning to brush your teeth before they wake up.
Right, so you can kiss them and they're like, wow.
Oh, your breath so many fresh.Yeah, I'll be waking up with just some minty mouth.
She's like, um, yeah, I sleep with breath mints in my mouth.
You stop sleeping with a full face of makeup on.Sleeping on your back with a full face of makeup on.
And you let him see you with that mouth guard in?Right, right.
That's when you start wrapping that hair up.Like three months, y'all are in it.So he waits three months and Cecile is out with her friends in London town when she suddenly gets an unpleasant message.
Get that message.She gets a message.
And it's him. And he it's so the back of his bodyguard's head and his bodyguard is bleeding.And then he also sends this picture with like a little bit.So it's a photo you guys can't see, obviously, him with like a little bit of blood on his shirt.
If that or makeup could be some lipstick.
Truly, I feel like this is like a shirt that he just he's like, OK, it's phase three.It's phase two now.Like, let me put on my blood shirt.
He already has.Right.It's already tucked away in his kit, his camera kit.
Let me send the photo that I always send of my bodyguard with the blood on the back of his head.
So he sent this to the what's your name?Cecile?
Yes.He sends this to her and he says that the people who are after me, you know, they're they're they've caught up to me and they're beating me up and they beat up my bodyguard and I'm in danger.
But also he does not look beat up.No.He looks like he's frowning.
He's also trying to give me sex in this photo, which I don't know how to feel.Like he looks like he's like, have you ever gotten like a sexed, but also they got blood on them?
He's giving me like, I'll dick you down.
But also also like, feel bad for me.
But also like, I'll dick you down. He has frowny, he has puppy dog eyes.
Nobody eats pussy like me.
Look, and you can tell this bloody shirt is proof.I'm always down.
He must, he must have something going on in the bedroom too.Cause like these women.
12 weeks.Yes.But also it depends if he's also giving them like the wild fucking matrix scam where you believe you're in a completely different reality.Then I'm sure that's enough too.
If you're like, you know, superficial enough that your end game is like whiny money. But was he flying them out to, okay, well, anyway, those are dimensionless scam, we don't need to know.
So he says, look, I have to keep a low profile.They are tracking my credit cards.They're tracking anything with my name on it.So I need you to, do you have an American Express?And she says, yes.
He says, I need you to give me your American Express card information so that I can book hotel rooms and flights in your name. and then I'll wire you the money.And I'll pay you in advance.So she does this.
Wait, but he paid her in advance?
She says he will, but he does not.So she does this.She gives him, she takes a photo of her annex.
And sends it to him, because she's like, he's got to be good for it.I've been on his jets.Yeah, he dresses nice.He's so flashy.
Shimon!Robbery! ♪ I fraud ♪ So he takes the money, obviously, and is now probably finessing the next woman or whatever, what have you.
Because he got the card now to finance the next move.Yeah.Wow.
So he has her card.He maxes out her card.She then proceeds to, over the time of this relationship, take out several loans from banks.
Using her own information.She takes out loans to give him money.
Wait, so he had her info that he was taking out bank loans in her name.
So she was taking out bank loans and giving him the money.
And basically he was like, take out these loans and like in your name, but they're my loans and I'll pay for them.
All the while, all because the reality that he presented her was I'm a diamond dealer who got caught up with people who have the capabilities of a government to surveil my credit card activity.
I mean, also it sounds like, you know who might be, it could be the credit card companies that are after, if they're like, they know where I spend money.It's like, yeah, cause it's the credit card company.
But like what, see that's where I'm like, in my mind, but I guess this is where you and I might be too clever for a scam.Try and come at us, I dare you.
Where like, the first thing I would ask is like, how the fuck are these people so connected that they know all your credit card information, where you're traveling?I'm like, something doesn't add up.Shemound. We're about to call it B613.
I thought how you said beast and I was like B613 okay look ever since I started watching Scandal I told y'all I woke to the government and they tricked.
Thank God you watch Scandal.
So maybe they did have Shimon's information.Maybe they did know where he was buying lattes and shit.
Yeah, maybe he was one of those people bidding on Olivia Pope.Remember that terrorist eBay situation with her?That's when I stopped watching the show.
Yeah, when they were like, how much you want Olivia Pope for?
And then it's like, this dude who died three seasons ago came back suddenly.How convenient, writers.
Yeah, they got really lazy there.
They're like, everybody cares about Olivia Pope.She's in Baghdad.What?Why?Yeah, but so basically the same people who are after Olivia Pope are after Shamone.So he convinced this woman to take out six loans.
He convinced her to give him his credit card information, like all of this.And I'm like, damn, three months?Three months of a relationship and you're coming up off of card info?
I'm curious to know, and you said this person's still at large?
So he was at large, he literally just got pinched.
And have we heard anything about him?Do we know anything, like have we heard from him in terms of the mechanics of these scams, what his endgame was?Did his mother just not breastfeed him?
I think that it was all to furnish a lifestyle that he had become accustomed to.
Where was he from originally?
And he had to come after all these ladies, take their hearts and their wallets.
And so I'm guessing this was sort of like the same mechanics of the same reason why he had to leave London, because he probably just pulled the same shit on somebody there.Oh wait, no, it was a checkbook thing.
Yeah, it was a checkbook thing, but he had also scammed some other women.
Yeah, and that's what I like about him.He really has a wide portfolio.He has so many talents.There gets a point in this relationship with her where she's getting frustrated, obviously, because it becomes very transactional.
It's all about money, and it's all about, send me this money, and I'm going to pay you back.She's like, I got $18,000 as a loan, and I'm sending that to you now, and when are you going to pay me back, and blah, blah, blah.
So then he, because she's getting frustrated, he sends her a TD bank statement for $500,000.
And this is what's saying that he's gonna send this to her?
It only costs you $120 in fees.The fees look low to me.
You can transfer half a million dollars for $120.
Is this, it looks like it has an Instagram filter on it.It does.Is that from the website we're looking at or did he like doctored and he put it through fucking Ludwig?
I hope that it's from the website.So he was doctoring.I think that that's a key element of being a scammer is you have to be good at Photoshop.Like if you haven't taken Adobe, if you don't know how to make a magazine cover, you can't be a scammer.
If you don't know how to design a website.
And this is stuff that you should have learned in eighth grade.
And how to make very slight edits to Wikipedia so the editors don't see so you can leave it up for a long time.For a while I had the number one most selling single in the history of music.
I changed it on Wikipedia, because I remember back in the day, like, you can just edit this shit.And they're like, no, you can't.And I was like, go search what the number one most selling single is.And it wasn't me.
It was me for like three hours.And then it got switched back.But you had a window where I could have told somebody.Exactly.
And if you took a screenshot of it, then that makes it legitimate.Also, I just think that, like, I took web design.I took Photoshop.
You could design a website?
I don't remember how to do any of that.But I know I am getting rusty.I'm not using that particular scam as much.
Because you're too successful now.You're losing your scam instincts.
Well, I will say that every good scammer knows how to do Photoshop, web design.You need to know how to falsify.Facetune.Yeah, facetune.You should be able to make yourself look like a Caucasian woman in three minutes or less.
You definitely need to know how to falsify bank statements.It's a cornerstone of scamming.
Look at Billy McFarland, did the same shit.
The wire transfers, you need to let people know money is coming.And what's crazy is that this works on people, that people are sincerely like, oh, well, I see this paper that says money is coming.If the money ain't there, the money ain't there.
Yeah, where is it going?It's on its way?Did the flight get held up?There's traffic?The shit is, it's a wire transfer.So what happened, the internet went down?
Right.So he falsifies this bank statement and that kind of like staves her off a little bit.So she invites him to Oslo, her hometown, and he tells her, like, he calls at the last second and says that he can't come.
It's like fucking catfish mixed into a tube.Right.
Because it's like all about not being around the person and kind of like making this excitement around like the times that you actually get to see them.
And she even said that he had this very magnetic personality and that every time she was around him, she was very excited.And he has just like this sense of, I think you have to be a grandiose person to be a scammer.
Oh, absolutely.Yeah.Because you have to put out an energy there that is intoxicating and makes people want to be around you.And then they'll put their guard down.
That's why all these people who are like the big big time scammers are like larger than life.Right.No one's like ever.Who's like the meek scammer who's like.
And that's what I love about it.You have to be confident.If you're not confident, then how do you?
Yeah.Like, would you believe it if a guy was, I mean, maybe if you met like a really unconfident person who was leading with their money, that's like a lot of wealthy people do anyway.Like, I don't know.
I mean, I got the weak dick, but I got the G5 jet.
You know, people who just say they have weak dick, just offer that up.
So she realizes that the money is gone and that the affection, like the affection is not mutual. And she has her mom kind of help her clean up her whole loan situation and all of this.
She also reports him in London and reports him in Norway, like files charges against him.And he was convicted of major fraud in 2015 because he had done this to three other Finnish women.And she recognized that the same scam, the exact same scam,
So he's not even changing it up.I'm pretty sure he has like probably like a scam folder on his iPhone where he's like, okay, I got photos of my bodyguard getting beat up.
I got this sexy photo of me with a little bit of blood on my shirt that says, I will dick you down.But also I was just in a fight for my life.
In a fight.So, you know, please understand if I don't get hard right away, I was just in a fight.
I've got a half a million dollar bank transfer screenshot from TD Bank.Does TD Bank have half a million dollars as a collective of all the people?
I don't even know.I thought TD Bank was a commercial.
Are enough people banking with TD for them to even have half a million dollars?
What part of the country is TD popular in?Because it's definitely not out here in the West Coast.Does anybody know?
If someone ever told me that they were sending me money from TD Bank, I would immediately be suspicious.
I don't know.I've never even seen a physical TD Bank.
I've never seen a physical TD Bank.
Are they like Charles Schwab where they don't have physical locations?They're just like a institution?
Maybe.Is Charles Schwab just an idea?
Charles Schwab is an idea and a philosophy.That's about it.With zero ATM fees.
My bank is a state of mind.
That's what you say when you're in debtor's court.They're like, see, my honor.My honor?My honor.My bank is more of like a state of being and a way of living.
My bank is a cool breeze on wet, dewy grass.
Exactly.My bank is like when you wake up and I guess you were crying in your dreams because you have trouble opening your eye because it's fused shut with crust.That's sort of like what my bank is.
A little difficult when you wake up, but it makes you think a little bit about what happened.
My bank is, if you get out the shower and you're on a tile floor with no mat, and so you gotta put your wet bare foot on the tile, like a little uncomfortable.
But it's also that moment where you think you're about to slip, because there's no mat, and you're like, oh shit, that's sort of what my bank is.That's the vibe of my bank.So to put it bluntly, my honor, no, I do not have the money today.
I will be turning myself in.
Okay, sorry for what you just said.Yeah, put them on my wrist.
Yeah, put them on my wrist.Thank you so much.
That's funny, because the feeling of these cuffs is kind of also what my bang feel like.Okay, I'll write this way.Okay, great.Okay, great, okay.Man, Bailiff, you gotta twist my arm that hard.
Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you so much for your time, my honor.My name is Shimon.
Shimon.So yes, she... So when the bubble burst, like her mother helped her deal with all the out, you know, the- The fallout.Fallout.There we go.I was going to say outfall.
Out this fall.I don't know what's going on with my brain.Florida girls.
Yes.So I can't imagine being her mother and just being like- Yeah.
Well, because that poor mom, because you know she was like- The fuck is wrong with you?The second she was like, wait, what does this man want now?He needs your American Express card?For what?
I think that she must either have horrible girlfriends, or she did not talk to anybody about what she was doing, because I can't imagine a world where I tell my girl, we at brunch, and I'm like, yeah, girl.
He said I gotta send him another $18,000, and then he gonna wire me the fees.No, he sent me a TD Bank statement.
Isn't that shit from The Sims?
Girl, this is like that last man you had.No, listen.He made you buy all them TVs because he said he was opening a sports bar.
He ain't ever opened that sports bar.
I know.I know.You're doing it all over again, Lacey.The thing I think is she was rich.What is it?Why does she have an American Express card?Broke people don't have American Express cards.Really?I don't have a fucking American Express card.
You probably have an American Express card.No, I don't.
Is Amex for rich people? AMX for damn sure.She had a platinum of AMX though.So that that is what is that like a 20 grand limit?
At least.At least, right?I mean, shit, the best I'm doing is fucking whatever.Chase prefers some shit.Yeah, I don't know, man.I don't know anyone who I know has an American Express is not like someone who I go, oh, they're struggling.Right.
Or they're like, yo, they're doing DoorDash.Like. late at night.
They're not like, no, they're not even during peak hours.They're doing like 3 a.m.door dash. which is very sketchy.All you're delivering is Taco Bell and condoms.
100%, yeah.And then you can be on meth, and you're efficient at your job.
Oh, yeah.A lot of people are on meth.Do you know, like, a lot of cooks are on meth in restaurants?
Yeah, late shifts, man.You gotta stay up.And people in production, too.
Don't get it twisted.Listen, we're on a classier meth called cocaine.
Called cocaine.Yeah, when those gaffers are calling for a safety meeting.
Pinky up.Yeah, they're like, okay, do you- Pinky up, and then pinky and nose.
Pinky up, and then make sure this face looks good.
Well, yeah.So I guess no one in her life loved her because.
Yeah.Yeah.That's also the other thing, like this should be the other.
This is like a supplemental episode you do to your episodes where you try to get into the psychology of these people who are scammed so easily, because I feel like it's a combination of her wealth, which makes her not so, you know, like if you don't have money, the second somebody is asking you for all this money, like, hold the fuck up.
Right.I thought you were I thought you were rich.I was about to ask you for 18 fucking thousand dollars.
But if you're rich, and that's the thing in just real life, if you're rich, people will give you shit.The more money you have, the more shit you get for free.Because people are like, oh, you have money, we won't burden you by giving it to us.
Now, if you're poor, they're like, listen here, you poor son of a bitch, you better pay up and today.
You putting a deposit of three times the value of this Airbnb down right now.
Oh, you want lights in your home?We need a $6,000 deposit because we don't trust that you gonna pay your light bill every month.
And you're your grandmother's maiden name.That's how far back this credit check go. She did, where her tombstone at?Where her urns, I gotta ask her some questions.
Oh man, well yeah, so shout out to Chimon.
People want love, I think it's also desperation for love.
Oh, you know what I bet you could start doing is calling these people if they're like locked up, because these people have such egos, they would probably want to talk about their shit and how innocent they are.
I don't know if I could get wrapped up.I feel like next thing I know, I have a prison wedding to Chimone.No, no.I'm putting money on his books all the time.I know.
I don't have enough money on my commissary, man.I'm trying to get some canned tuna this month.
full on in a relationship with Shimon.
No, you will be fine.You have the mental fortitude.
I don't know.He's intoxicating.He's very hot, even when he gets beat up.
Wow.Okay.So you're even seeing ways, like vulnerabilities in yourself.
I think you have to be aware of your vulnerabilities.I think it's when you deceive yourself that you get caught up.
Damn.And maybe that's me.So let's do an experiment.And then who knows, maybe I'll be in that prison wedding with Shimon.
And before we hop off the train I just want to point out that Cecily had to have had money because she gave him loaned him quote-unquote over 2.1 million kroner was that which is Norwegian money, okay Norwegian coins and it's like a quarter of a million dollars.
Oh $246,000 I told you How the fuck, see, that's the only way you can come up off that money that much.Exactly, because other rich people see other rich people.
$250,000, $246,000, almost 250K.You mean skamone.Skamone.
That's way, I ain't giving that kind of money to my mama.I ain't giving that money to nobody.
You would.You give that to your mom.
That's a lot of fucking money.
You give it to your mom, but that's different.
And y'all was dating for three months.
That's woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo, boy.See, either the dick was so good, it was poisonous, fucking rotted her brain out, or she's so fucking rich that that wasn't shit to her, probably.
How do you know that on Tinder though?How do you get so lucky to find somebody like, but you know what though?It's probably people with money look for other people with money.And he had very flashy Tinder photos.He had the private jet photo.
He had the- He had the Audemars Piaget wristwatch on.
Just like in front of his face.Right.Just like next to it.
He was yawning in the photo.
You know how you yawn on your watch?
And he had like the Maseratis and all the sports cars, the McLarens.He was in those like that kind of vibe.So maybe Rich attracts Rich.
Of course.And I wonder what her profile must have been.Her with like, you know, her just had like nine Birkin bags on one.Right.
He had to figure it out somehow that he was like, oh, she's a good mark.
Well, I'm sure that's why, too.If you're a real good scam artist, you got to know you got to know the mark first.So I'm sure in the messages it was like he's like, how trash is Belgium? She's like, that's so ghetto.So ghetto there.
Oh my God.I was on a private jet.
It was an eight seater.Oh my God.Was it for like a charity?
Honestly, I had to take three showers when I got home.I was like, I can't get on a private jet with only eight seats.
I would just do a chemical peel on my whole body.
Honestly, I get the skin from babies.I don't even wash my skin anymore.
It's all, I just get a bunch of baby foreskins, because you know it's the most malleable skin to graft with, and I just re-grafted my whole body with it.
Did you know that's the best skin for skin grafting?
It's baby foreskins?Yep, for burn victims.
So little Jewish babies are saving everyone's lives?
Shit, in America, everybody would be fucking circumcised.
Oh, everybody's getting rid of their dick, right, tight.
Don't get rid of your dick, y'all, that's money.
I don't know why we keep coming back to this.
Money in the bank for new parents.
Guys, send me your kids forest.Take that out.No, leave it.No, leave it.
So, Miles, I just have to ask you.Everybody Plays the Fool is our second to last and penultimate segment where we talk to you about a time that you've been scammed.Have you ever been scammed?
I mean, I've been robbed.
That's not as fun.More of a joke than a scam.Being robbed is not fun.Scammed, it's like you have a good time while you're being robbed.It's like a vacation, but for robbery is a scam.
A scam. Nah, not really.Not because I'm not vulnerable.I mean, like, I ain't been scammed by, like, exes emotionally, you know, where I've been taken for the energy I put in.
The biggest scam of all, and the one where no one is safe from.
And as I humble myself before the god Eros.
What's, like, what's something a woman scammed you out of?
Shit.Man, I remember, I think I've told this story before elsewhere on podcasts, but like I was dating somebody who bought me a TV for my birthday and I was like, yo, this is my TV, right?Like you're getting, we live together.
So I was like- You immediately like pulled out a contract and were like, this is my TV.
Yo, you, cause your boy is fucking aware of a scam.So I was like, in my mind, I was like,
How solid was this relationship, Miles, that you immediately were suspicious when you got this gift?
It wasn't that I was suspicious.I was more in disbelief because it was such a nice gesture.Like no one, and also like I was in college.How big was the TV?It was like 40 inches.
This was like in 2006.Okay, so 40 inch in 2006.
2006 wasn't anything to yawn at.Nah.And I was like, this is for me?It's like, yeah, it's your birthday, baby.Like, it's for you.Like, it's a gift.And I was like, damn. Like, this is just some shit you bought me, like a fucking $800 gift?
You guys spent three hours discussing if this is really for you?
No, because I was suspicious, because I think I was broke and cheap, and I was like, man, I would never do this shit for you. Cause I didn't have the money.I didn't have the money.I didn't have the money.
I'm self-canceling right now and I'm back.But I was just, I was truly in disbelief because in college you don't have money like that.And I wasn't even close to having money like that.I had enough money for my rent.
Oh my God, when I had $20, I remember $20 used to be money.
That was a weekend.You couldn't do so much with $20.I was like, I'll see you Tuesday. And it would be fucking Thursday.I found a 20 in my pocket.
Now like $20 is like parking.
I know.Oh, don't even get me started.So, and then I had the TV cut to us breaking up.And I was like, so what I even said, I was like, wait, so this is mine.Even like, this is like a gift for me.
If everything goes South or something, not even like everything goes South, like this is mine.She's like, yes, it's yours.It's your gift.This is your TV.We break up.
When she moved out, I was at class and my roommate was like, yo, I think the TV's gone. And took the TV.Also took my iPod and my Sony PSP.So not only that, I had the Italian job.I had a copy of the Italian job on PSP.I want that shit back.
Because you're going to watch the Italian job so much.
Is that Ben Affleck?Uh, who's in the Italian job?I'm thinking of Geely.
Yeah.Wait, wait.Uh, you know who's in that?I was in Matt Damon.No, Mark Wahlberg.
Mark Wahlberg.Mark Wahlberg.
That's my boss, and I said that's bad.You're just gonna let it take you to PSP, bro?
Lord Jesus, so she took the entire, I love that she not only took back the gift, but then she also stole some of your shit.
She took some add-ons, some goody bags on the way out the party.She fully finessed.Shout out to her.
Did you guys live together?
Yo, that's the biggest scam, when you move in with someone and they, were you splitting the rent?
Oh, that's so kind of her.
Because for me, pussy's rent, right?I'll pay on the first and the 15th.
You can come over and be like, rent is due.I'm like, okay.
Well, I think for her, cause then she got to move out of a place that was more expensive and then just pay a fraction by splitting like the bedroom in this two bedroom spot I was renting.
But Pussy was not rent because look, man, if Pussy's rent, then this DAC should be rent too. So, yeah.
No, dick is free.We all know that.
Yeah, it is.It is.It's free, it's abundant.And that's why I was like, that's why I knew the value had no value.I was like, you know what, take this Italian job, PSP disc instead.
Honestly, it's worth more than your penis.
It really is.Even now, right now.Right now, a copy of the Italian job.On UMD, Universal Media Disc is what I believe the format is.Italian job worth more than any dick on earth.
But at the same time, like, I mean, Chimone got somebody to pay $246,000 for his peen.
Wait, can I tell you about the scam though I saw in Italy real quick?Yeah.So in Italy, right, I was really impressed.Everyone's talking about, yo, there's pickpockets and things like that.Okay, there are pickpockets everywhere.
If you go to New York, same shit.But like, there was this thing I kept seeing where people put these like art posters on the sidewalk.Like, cause it's very crowded.A lot of tourists in Florence and you're walking through the streets are like packed.
And a lot of these people that put like these art posters that are like replicas of like these oil paintings or whatever on the ground, like right off the sidewalk.
So a lot of times if you're not paying attention, you might walk all over one of these motherfucking posters and they go, hey, you walked up on my poster.Now you got to buy this shit.
and there's basically like financial landmines they put down in the street for people who are not paying attention.
This dude was on his phone and look, credit to him, like look, credit to the scammer because look, if they catch you slipping, I saw that shit, I'm like, yo, this is a scam.
I'm like, first of all, anything worth value is someone putting just on the street like that.
Like they put it on the ground.
Even people selling fake bootleg DVDs, they put that shit on a blanket at least or the back of a jacket.
In New York they put it on a picnic blanket, a flannel.They also do that so that they can scoop it up very quickly when the cops come.
Very quickly too.But these shits were just straight on the concrete and I was like, and I'm like, wait. Cause I kept seeing people like realizing and they're like, whoa, whoa, watch out.The dude is selling them.
And then all it took is this one dude on his phone just walked over two of them, like fucking stepped right on top of these shits.But these are printouts.And the guy made the dude buy them shits right on the spot.And he was like, no, I don't want.
And these dudes like got in his face and he was not, he was not built for that kind of interaction.So he came up off his euros real quick.
He wasn't about that shakedown life?
He was not about it.He would, you know, if they said that to me, I'd be like, let's go talk to the police right now. And they'll be like, okay, you got me.
Because I said that with a dead pan look.
Oh, yeah.No, because I was really mad because I was like, yo, this is a fuck.These are just landmines waiting to explode.And my man, I think he paid like 20 euro for some print.I was like, man, the DPR on them shits wasn't even impressive.
They're just printing these out in mass at FedEx.
They're like, my art, my art.That and the friendship bracelet one, where they were like, oh, I want to make this bracelet.They'll just fucking put a bracelet on your wrist and then be like, then tie it on.
They'd be like, okay, that's like- We can't take it off.Oh, you want me to cut this off?I just put all this time into making it.And they get a lot of American white people with that one.
That's such a gaslighting scam.
Yeah.They're like, this is for friendship.Yeah.
I did this for you.What the fuck are you talking about?You ain't got no eight-year-old.You about to go.
God, Karen, you about to, ooh, boy.
Wow, so I made this bracelet for you, I spent all this time on this bracelet?Wow, okay.And I put it on your wrist, and you didn't say you wanted it?Wow.
Wow.I knew there were a few ways to say fuck you to somebody, but this one is by far the most creative way.
Probably because of you.Oh yeah, hold on.She says she look like you.
You killed my grandma, now pay for this bracelet.
Police, police here. She killed my grandmother with the A-line haircut.
Oh, man.All right.Well, last but not least, we just have to give a shout out to a legendary scammer.Keeping in the theme of love and relationships, I want to give a shout out to John Martin Hill.I love a scammer with three names.
Yeah.I think just more more names, the better.
So he is a huckster.Have you ever heard?
That's like fucking like depression air talk, isn't it?A huckster?That's like some shit my grandfather would say.
I love it, I love it.So he met, this woman met him on match.com.Which in itself is a scam.Get your PR together because what happened to that old white man who told me that the wholesome relationships are on match.com?
And don't y'all got like a 23 prong test?Yeah.So he matched up with all 23 prongs.
Or is that okay, wait, no, it is Match.com.
Yeah, Match.com is like, we'll ask you everything about your entire life, and then we'll find somebody who we think will work.
He's a professor at UCLA, and I knew one of the other professors who worked with him, and he used to be like, yo, you know that shit's a scam, right?Who was in the psychology department with him.
Another fellow professor in his department was being like, yo, his shit's a scam.
So what, so he probably just does these questionnaires.Does he even use it?
He's like, they will help with compatibility, but like the way they're selling that shit is in fucking possible.
Like from people who do like relationship psychology and like the psychology of love, they're like, it's impossible to just do a fucking questionnaire and have them all like.
And a black lady with curly hair hugging a white man on the bridge.
And you know those people in those commercials have the same like energy as like those old Jenny Craig ones.
It used to be sad eating cup of noodles every night.
They got me with that shit.I used to work out at Curbs because of those commercials.Everybody hated me at Curbs. They didn't want me there.
Because you were just walking, just snap your gum?
I was 19 years old and so fit.Oh, right, yeah.Working out on like old people machines.
Just doing like yawning.Like, okay, I'm good.
They hated me at curbs.But yeah, so this guy met this woman on Match.com and he finessed 80 grand out of this woman.
See, that's the thing, all these scams, even like the Nigerian Prince scams, people like from other places who get catfished, love is really the fucking, it's the front door to the kingdom of scams.
And just like Chimon, after a whirlwind romance, he convinced her that they were in love.
They were in love or were not?
In this article it says that he convinced her that they were in love.How do you convince somebody that you're in love?Hey, we in love.Is this working?Miles, you in love with me.
Okay.You in love.I don't know.No, you in love.Yeah, but the thing is- No, no, no, no.
Stop listening to your thoughts.
You made me miss my mother's funeral.Stop listening to your thoughts.So I could take you to the manicure.
Yeah, but you did that because you was in love. You need to stop listening to that little voice in your head that's telling you that everything is wrong, okay?Because that voice is just hate, okay?
That's negativity.You need to push out your life.Bring the light in.Bring the darkness out.
So they were going house hunting, which, like, that happened in our story.Yeah, so, like, he got this $80,000 for the down payment on this house that, um... they were never gonna buy.
So, shout out to Mr. Hill.
Shout out to Mr. Hill, shout out to all you love scammers.Karma will get you.
Maybe it won't.And karma might be the form of a karma fisk or a sports car.A very expensive sports car.So, you know, a fisk or karma, I believe.That's the kind of karma I want.Yeah, exactly.
Well, Miles, thank you so much for being here.
Trying to get in a car, ma.
Thank you so much for being here, Miles.I love you so much.This has been amazing.
Where can people find you?Where do you want to be found?That's the real question.
Oh, wow.The time honored question of every podcast.You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray.
Listen to me every day, basically Monday through Friday on the daily Zeitgeist, which you are a very frequent guest on and beloved guest host of everything.And whenever you come on, we love to sing.
I'm surprised we didn't break out into a song.
I know.I'm shocked.I think we did too much.
Maybe the Mama Say Mama Saw stuff.Exactly.
Guys, this is Scam Goddess.You can find us at Scam Goddess Pod on Instagram and on Twitter.And again, email us at scamgoddesspod at gmail.com with your scam stories.We would love to hear them and maybe start doing them ourselves.
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There you go.What about Square Cash?
Alright guys, that concludes another episode of Scam Goddess.Congregation, stay scheming.
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