No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world.I'm in here with my man Remo.Today, we're having the sit down that has been needing to happen for a few months or a year now.B.A.K.J.C.and F.B.G.Murder in here.The face of Texas.
Some of the hottest artists coming out of Texas in a long time.How are you guys feeling? You like the vibes or is a little too intense in comparison to where y'all are from I Mean a lot of people say it's too fast-paced Look around
Okay, well you have different concerns.
I feel good out here.I feel good out here.You can smoke anywhere.
Yeah, that's gotta be the best part coming from Texas, huh?Yeah, yeah.
This y'all first time in L.A.?Nah.Yeah, nah.
Y'all be coming out here?
Nah, they're like my second, second, third time.My third, fourth.
You be coming through for label stuff or?
Yeah, my first time I came to the, for the label and shit.Hell yeah.That was my first time I came out.
Definitely. So, okay, we can get into your individual backstories, but how'd you guys unite and become friends?
Shit, I don't say friend, we member, probably friends too friendly, that shit too friendly, I don't say friend, we member.Friends are too friendly.
But nah, I looked up, uh... Bro, just, you know, I wanted to do something, like, bro knew how it was gonna go up.
So you guys met once you already had motion as rappers?Yeah, yeah, yeah.Okay, how long ago was that?
Two months ago.Two months, that's it?
Yeah, I went there with D to the Murder.My shit just started popping like four months ago.
Wow, that's a crazy fast come up, man.
That's how I found Chris, our manager.
Yeah, because his manager, Chris, his manager, he had a name in the bio.Yeah.And then he had reached out, and that's how I got in touch.
Yeah, I had seen him say that.Yeah, yeah.Oh, God, that's how it happened.Then he was just like, yeah, D to the Murder, let's do a song.And we did it.The hell that hoe did what he did.
That's why I was trying to figure out the name.Is D to the A or D to the murder?D to the murder.
Cause you guys are from, you're, you're from Dallas and you're from Fort Worth.Okay.And so is, is there any kind of conflict or are you guys different culturally or do you get along?It's like 30 minutes away, really 45.
But it's not the kind of thing where anybody felt a way about y'all kind of linking up?
It really just ain't nobody like, in my eye, it ain't no nigga like that in the city that's like, big dog, yeah, let's see what he say, he say so.Ain't nobody in the city like that.Ain't nobody over nobody.Ain't no CEO shit.
So we don't give a fuck how a nigga feel for real.
For sure.Okay, so tell me a little bit about coming up in Dallas.I guess we're gonna hit your story first.What was it like growing up?
Yeah, I was really just a regular.I was a regular at first.Like, yeah, a regular kid.Yeah, chillin', whatever.Jumped out the porch with my partners.Outside every day and shit.You know, outside is where that shit start.Uh-huh.Outside.
First you start, like, you know, jumpin' niggas and shit.Then you ride with niggas.You know?You know how that shit go.Oh, man. Right.Just kept going.Keep going, keep going.Where do you get most of what you learn?
Were you getting arrested and having like stuff happen during all this or not?
Hell no.I don't never been in a crash.One time I went to jail.I went to jail when I was 15.And then I never went back to jail, like for real.I probably been in the holding cell since then.I ain't never just went back to jail, for real.
No, seriously, since then.I went to jail when I was 15.I ain't know how to move, for real.
That's what's up.How old are you now?20, okay.You graduated high school?
Nah, what age did you drop out?
See, I really like, when I got out of jail, I just didn't go back.I was like ninth grade.I got out of jail, I just didn't go back.
And were you thinking about music already, or you were happy to just be in the streets?
Yeah, nah, I wasn't thinking about music.I probably made some songs in jail, but... One thing about music though, music really started like with my first song.And then that one, my manager and shit, they started reaching out.
So you already had the manager or you made the song and then you have the manager?
I made the song.Then that's when I came.
And how did he discover you?
Being, it's another like person and then shit. He looked me in with Chris, and me and Chris just clicked.I just went to him, and Chris text me every day like, rap, rap, I'm giving you this video, video shoot this day.I'm like, yeah, I did it.
Was there anybody doing a style of rap that you felt like was similar to what you were doing, or did you feel like you kind of introduced a little bit of a different lane?
Yeah, it was a little drill scene going on, but I ain't gonna call it a drill scene because it's just way It wasn't what it is now.I think my shit different for sure.
Right.Cause it's like, there's a lot of different cities across America that have like a popping drill scene.And like Texas obviously has a crazy musical history, but it feels like there's kind of like a younger generation of new energy coming up.
Hey, y'all niggas everywhere.I really feel like y'all niggas running.Where we from for sure, y'all niggas running.
Y'all niggas running for the show.
Yeah, the YN memes are crazy.It's just like, everybody always talking about that now.
I ain't written on YN no more, like.I ain't no YN.I ain't bitch.
I mean, if you're trying to ditch the young thing and you're 20, that says a lot.You grew up fast or what?
Nah, I'm still young, you know what I'm saying?Like, young niggas like, well, YN, when you hear YN, that's like a middle of a crash out.Yeah.I ain't never been that.
It's another word for a young dude who's f***ed up off Galaxy Gas, wearing a shiesty, backdooring his homie, etc.We all know the caricature that they're trying to paint.
So wait, okay, so the music just took off off the first song.The YouTube algorithm just handled it and it just started going crazy?
It ain't just take off, but I guess they seen something.It took off to be the first song for sure. Ain't nobody video, wasn't nobody video doing what my shit did.And then to be the first video, I was like, yeah, that's what matters.
So it was probably like 25K in two weeks or some shit like that, but it was my first song.Wasn't nobody else really doing that shit.
Definitely.Okay.And so you were coming up at around the same time, just in a slightly different city, 30 minutes down the road.You have a similar upbringing or what could we say about that?
Yeah, not really the same time.He was going up before me.
That's how I got into it.But I've been rapping since like 9th grade.
Okay.And so what's that journey been like for you in terms of just putting it all together and everything?Did you just put shit on YouTube and start reacting or what?
Yeah, you're right.You know, BandLab, that's how everybody really started.I had the headphones, it made my first song in like 9th grade.People was fucking with it, so I just never stopped shit.
It's always been like other niggas in my city that have been bigger than me that I done looked up to before or some shit.I don't look at they ass now and be like, I don't know, this shit be crazy.
It's a wild feeling just leapfrogging people that have been doing it for years?
This shit happened like four months.
You make a lot of haters that way too, huh?
What was the first song you did?First song I did?Yeah, that took off.
It took off, that hook called Double, because I had some white pull up in my video, like, we was there, like, it was me and the guys, we all at the store, you know, downtown for work.
White pull up in a black truck, their parents and all, hop out the car, shooting the video, talking about, come on, we got sticks out now, they coming out.That hook went viral on TikTok and shit.
So this is just a random white girl appearance, or are you a habitual bunny hopper?
You talking about bunny hopper?No, it was random.Like, random.She was with her dad, her mama.Like, they was... She and I started recording their ass.
I just came in there, huh?
Do you don't normally kick it with white girls very often, or... Because that happens once you start popping off as a rapper.All of a sudden, the white girls are f***ing with you.
You in a relationship, ain't it?Cause your chick, y'all turned up on the YouTube vlogs and shit.I seen some of them.
Yeah, I would, not no more.
Oh yeah, I broke up, cause I ain't like naughty as you.Damn, y'all must have just recently broke up, cause I just seen y'all do a 20 v 1.
Yeah, we broke up like a month ago, a month or two ago.
What the fuck happened?Cause y'all was locked in from the YouTube vlogs.
Get bigger and shit, I don't know.You cheated. Hey, I meet though cuz she was popping already or I'm a partner In Houston, it was just a little party and shit.
She came to that ho, I guess she was streaming on her phone in the chat, tell her like, come over here, go talk to JC, go talk to him, go talk to him.Cause I used to be with my partner Zay, streaming and shit, so they already knew me.
And I guess her stream seen me, they told her come talk to me.She came up and just talked, that's how it happened for real.
Is it weird dating a girl who already had her own clout, even if it was in kind of a weird way, like TikTok?
I went weird.I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.There's gotta be weird shit going on, but it's like, I don't know.I'm the type of nigga, like, I just never gave a fuck.I be chilling, like, I don't know.
Because if anything you do, if somebody sees you at a party looking a little too comfortable near another girl, she getting the anonymous DMs about it.
I could just imagine being young and dealing with somebody who got a lot of eyeballs on them like that.There's gotta be a lot of weird shit that happens.Yeah, a lot of weird shit. You happy to be single though?
Or you got some heartbroken Juice WRLD style songs on the way?
Juice WRLD style.I got a couple songs.I mean, I ain't fucked up or nothing.I'm still living me shit.I'm doing great.
You were a little too gangster for her or what?
In some ways, we was different.Yeah, in some ways, kinda.I wouldn't say gangsta, but yeah, yeah.She was all camera and shit.I wasn't good on the camera.I didn't want to do that, but she got me into it then.I don't know.
She had you making TikTok skits and shit.It's not really your style.
She helped blow up one of the songs though, didn't it?Like one of the TikTok songs.What's the song where everybody doing the dread trip?It's like, cause you got like two different ones that I seen.
And I seen where everybody like cut they dreads off and they showing it.
I had asked her, but I had asked her one time to do that. I don't know, I just grabbed that hoe.That's when it came.Everyone started grabbing that bitch.My partner, C, that's when he cut his dress off at the time.
He was like, I'm finna make this hoe a champ. He like, I don't know.He just had his cut jerseys in his hand and shit.
He really made that hunk blow up.So you didn't give him the credit.
I started deep diving because Adam told me he was doing an interview with y'all.He's like some drill dude from Dallas, Texas or whatever.
I asked him to help me write some questions, and then he hits me up two hours later.He's like, oh, this shit's sick.I got to do this interview with you.
These dudes are dying.Yeah.So I'm doing the research.Pop me in.I think I type in your name on YouTube.It's like hella documentaries and shit.Then I see you got songs with Vaughn on 1700.So I'm like, all right, bro, T it up.
That's my boy.One of the thing.Yeah, how you and Vaughn even get in tune anyway?
That's my boy.Shout out Vaughn.Shit.Bro, before I even, I was going up, but. He fucked with me before I even was really going up, going up.I'm like, before?He fucked with me.Rob Markman I'm like the first song early on?
Lil Yachty Yeah, yeah, yeah.He fucked with me.
He was really like the first.Big feature for real.
Rob Markman We do these interviews and we do a lot of Chicago shit.So when I see your name, I'm like, FBG Murder.So I'm looking it up and everybody be thinking that you FBG from Chicago.
Lil Yachty Nah, we not from 63rd.
Cause we had a Billionaire Black in here earlier.And I was like, that'd be crazy if they saw each other, two very different FBGs.
Nah, I ain't from 63rd.I ain't an FBG.I'm from the thing.Everybody be thinking, I seen that shit already, that shit.And I thought you from Chicago.Then like look, you might be making little pages and shit.Like legit pages and shit.
They text me, I thought you was from Iraq and shit.Like nah, daddy.Maybe y'all think me and shit.Nah, daddy though.
But what I had seen that tripped me out though, cause like, I thought your clique was called FBG.I didn't even name your clique.That's the Ops.That's your own fuckwood clique.
You named yourself Abner.I never heard of that before.
That's different.I, when you came out with the name.
It's like, you know, when you build shit, like when you build something like, when you build shit like, man it's your shit for real.Like, so I just made myself FBG.Like I'm FBG now.
And they all know, like when you say LBG, I don't think of my opps, I think of LBG murder.
The Gators the most shit to hate, you know?The Gators the most shit to hate, just another way of disrespecting they ass off.
Have you got a lot of blowback from that?I can't imagine they're happy about that.
Nah, hell nah, I shit on them.I don't compensate with the opps at all, like.I don't compensate with the opps.
That's a Chicago thing.Hop on FaceTime with your opps a couple times a week.
Nah, I used to though.Nah, I used to.But now it's just like, every y'all too much like, eh. Most shit, like recording and shit.Screenshots and shit.Even some shit like little blog pages and shit.That is dreaded and shit.It be posted.
Yeah, they give shit for them to post.Man, they ain't trying to make this shit broadcast and shit.
We don't even know about that, FBG, to be totally real.So does it worry you at all that you're kind of blowing them up by having that as part of your name?You're not going to be able to get away from it?
Shit look, this the thing though.They not blowing up.It's not blowing them up. You don't know, name one of them.
But I guarantee they're working on finding a rapper.
Yeah, they're going to keep, they for sure.I don't even know if they got one.They do, they got a few of them.Every song they got, you're going to hear my name.They're going to diss me, every song I diss.Oh, OK.And like, come on.Ain't it goofy?
Yeah, because you be getting this.
I'm FBG, just let the shit go. They'd be mad at the FBG shit.
I don't know exactly who the ops are on your side or whatever.I just know they named FBG.But it's like a whole documentary where they breaking shit down and shit.They said that somebody pissed on the at the graveside.
That was you.You filmed that video in front of the grave and then I seen the grave was blurred out.
It was like a set, you know?It was like a set.But fuck Tops though, but fuck him and all the set.They know who the set was supposed to be for.It was a set.But fuck Tops.
Damn, so you don't feel like that's taking it a little too far, going to the grave site?
Nah, nah.When it's deep, it can only get deeper.When it get deeper, it can only get deeper.Niggas that did this shit, fuck my way.Y'all probably just ain't seen it.
Because I think the sister, she was on there saying like, y'all niggas come back here, come do it again.Come do this shit right now while we up here.
But look, this the crazy thing though.Look, y'all probably heard me say Free Kooza, like this is a crazy thing.Like the blog, they just made it like she went up there after me.My brother Kooza, he in jail right now.He already pissed on her.
She went up there after he pissed on her.But he just recorded on his story, it just ain't gonna be like that. And I end up doing it, putting in a video.Like it was the second time.
Back to back.Like we spent that bit.Chucking Gatorade in the whip.Back to back.Back to back.I was only 2D when I went there.I was 2D.I was one person.Two person and my cameraman.
It's just crazy because, you know, you hear about new rappers popping off out of a city and you think like, damn, that's dope.I'm happy for that city.And then you start doing a little bit more digging.You're like, ah, okay.
There's a lot of, a lot of shit that comes with that.
Yeah, that's a lot of shit.It's, you know, it's like action, reaction, everything.Consequence of everything, shit.Your lifestyle.I think on shit, like if you trap me, you gotta worry about the laws.
And you in this type of shit, you gotta worry about the laws.You ain't gotta worry about the opps.Everything gonna come like that, you know?
Definitely.Do you think the people in Dallas and Texas in general are excited about you bringing that energy to the music, or are they kind of like, damn, this is weak?
Man, they love that shit.They love that shit.God, they love that shit.They can't fake like they don't.They love that shit.That's what they want to hear every time.
Because we had 700 Montana, and we had Zarin and Doe up here, and they got a New Dallas movie.And I ain't really got the drill scene.
I don't give a fuck about no New Dallas.That's a whole nother different lane.
So what part of Dallas you from?
I'm from the Grove, but it ain't really got nothing to do with where you from for real, because they from different hoods and shit.They from different hoods and shit.It's just like, they do their shit, not my shit.It ain't no beef or nothing.
It ain't no unity.I ain't with that shit at all.I'm just Lil' Bada$$.A.B.D.Murda.
Because what's the Six-Far or something like that?I think I heard ... It's like Six-Far or something?I'm not sure.Six what?I think it was called Six-Far, the name of the ... I heard you say it.Six-Far.Six-Far, what is that?
That's the Grove, that's where I'm from.Oh, that's the same thing.
Because I seen Pleasant Grove.Yeah, that's the Grove.Pleasant Grove, Six-Far, that's all the same shit.Oh, that's all the same shit.That's what I was trying to figure out.I'm like, all right.Yeah, yeah, yeah.And that's where you born and grew up at?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.That's the home you grew up?
But it's like, shit, it ain't really got too much to do with what hood you from and shit.A lot of places, a lot of cities and states, they go by hoods and shit.
It is like, yeah, niggas gonna be cool with niggas who from they hood and shit, but niggas cool other than the hood.It ain't shit. It ain't just everybody know the East don't like the South.It ain't no shit just like that.
Rob Markman So how y'all feel though?Y'all come together, y'all feel like, your opps like, all right, since y'all- Lil Yachty I don't even know.
I don't know.I can't put one face on- Rob Markman I know who your opps now.
Lil Yachty I'm not gonna lie, you got a song that got like six million views, the Meet the Reap.I think you mentioned somebody's name in there, and they did a song called- Can't Come Back or some shit like that.Yeah, that was real.
That was the dreadhead one I did.Oh, shit.All right.
So yeah, you mentioned somebody in there.I think his name is Jay Gutta or something like that.Jay Bando.Jay Bando.All right.So where the fuck all this come from?Because I'll be going back and forth.You say his name a lot on the song.
Really some shit.We used to be cool, man.We was cool back in the day.Some shit happened.Got into it with each other. I ain't got to say what happened.We did some real shit, some janky shit.We both was on some, yeah.
I didn't know I was dissed at first, but in the video I had showed, somebody came up to me and was like, bro, this nigga dissed you and shit, shit, and shit.I was like damn. The only reason I was fucked up about it is because he knew who I am.
He knew who I was before.It was cool before this shit.I seen that shit.I don't know.
You had a real solid reason to fall out or was it just some petty shit?
But it got back though.Was it just like niggas just stealing nothing?
Is it the kind of shit that couldn't get squashed, or could you see a resolution at some point?
See, you can't get squashed no more.Niggas already dissed.Niggas dissing.They're buying us more shit.Niggas already dissed.
It's crazy because I think about like when I was young and with people who had problems it was like they would have issues with each other but the level of disrespect wouldn't get so far that like they couldn't just at some point maybe fight and then be over it or somebody would you know force communication.
I grew up on the East Coast but then I look at like the way shit has gotten and most of the people that I know are beefing with other people there's already shit that's happened that they're just not gonna be able to get over it.
Nobody.They know that and he know that.It's crazy. I don't know.I'm from the projects.I'm from the east side of South Six.I was like, I don't know how I see this shit.I don't know.I was like eight, nine years old.
It was some group of people fighting in there, bitch.Nick came out.He got his ass beat.Came out the crib, shot that nigga.I was a young nigga.I was just looking at that.Me and my brother ran to the store right after.I was like, damn.
I'm just like, this is that day.I don't know.That's when I just, I don't know.I don't fight niggas for real.
Every fight you get, but I feel like somebody, but if you get your ass beat, you don't want to kiss niggas.It's like, I don't know.
So where you're coming from is not really normal to have a fist fight?
Pass that.I feel like the more, the more guns that are around, the less likely that is to happen.And then it's like, you take a state like Texas where the gun laws are pretty loose.
It's not a good idea to fight cause you don't know if somebody's just going to pull out.
So I'm guessing the J Bando dude, that's GMG, he in GMG.
Yeah, but it's a whole lot of GMG.He a different GMG though.It's like different GMGs in the city.
So what is B.A.K.?That's what y'all's shit is, right?That's what it is?Yeah, that's just me.
Oh, so they ain't- They ain't no clique, no gang, no nothing.That's just me.
So how'd you get your name anyway?
Shit, when I first started rapping, I ain't got it.I been having this home, chilling with my partner.I was just thinking this shit.And I was like, It was really originally supposed to be because I was on some young niggas shit, like born to kill it.
But then, you know, I had other partners talking to me and shit, talking about, you're going to be big one day or some shit like that.You know, labels not going to want that shit and shit.I just started thinking, I just turned out born a king.
Everybody's got what their their name really means or what their crew really means and then what they decide that it's gonna mean down the road a little bit I've seen this many times.What do you mean down the road?
I mean you start to feel experience some success and you're like hmm, maybe Fuck see like there's a rapper from LA I don't even want to say what his fucking crew stands for cuz it's a gang diss that'll make people mad if I even say it
But for sure he'll do an interview and they'll say, oh, what does ASM stand for?And he gonna say some shit, something friendly, something that doesn't make it clear that it's some murderous ass shit.
Even how Yo Gotti went from cocaine music group to corporate music.
Yeah.You got to clean it up a little bit.
Yeah.Fuck you up, you going to Can't Be Fucked With.Yeah, they got the Can't Be Fucked With.
It's some dude named Messy Modge or some shit.He part of the GMG shit.
He talking about GMG shit.I don't even want to talk about that.
Nah, because the nigga got a video where it was like he lost $10,000 or some shit.He was crying on that motherfucker and then you was trolling him.
Man, I was trolling him bad. I was half blind.But I was just calling, I seen that bitch.Seen the nigga like crying, actual tears.I'm like, bro, what the fuck this nigga crying for?I guess somebody took his money or some shit, took 10K from him.
And like, you know, he a messy ass nigga or something.He always had my name in his mouth, like I ain't never spoke on him or nothing.Then I just, I put laughing emojis on there, huh?And I guess, you know, the fans.
So you guys both consider yourselves drill rappers, or is that not a big part of what you're doing?
Shit, whatever they call it.
I can see myself, I know I can do both.I know I can change it up.
What's your favorite city for drill music out of America?
Yeah, you got to give it to him.
But you pay attention to Jacksonville and New York at all or any of the other cities that are kind of doing that?
Jacksonville, I know like, you know the A's now.A's.Mookie now. I don't really know too many Jacksonville rappers like that, but yeah.Atlanta.I know a couple of Atlanta.
Atlanta drill scene popping off.Yeah, that's true.Yeah, yeah.What music do you guys listen to, drill or not?What's the shit that actually makes sense to listen to in the car and shit?Shit.
Broadway, man.Oh, you saying like other than drill?
Yeah, like ride, no cap.Baby.Shit like that.
I don't like other shit.I don't know.I just don't like other shit.
Yeah, once you get real used to listening to drill it is kind of hard to go back to listening to people rap about rapping.
A lot of rap shit though, like the more I'm getting into it, I'm starting to like other shit.Because I see, I'm starting to learn music, I understand this shit.And I listen back to old songs like J. Cole and shit like that.
That's real.I like Drill and Taylor Swift.
You don't like Taylor Swift?Nah, I don't listen to her.
I'm not even saying just her, but just all the female singer-songwriters I've kind of got into over the last year. The other side of humanity.
That was that girl that I put on 2018 song.Did he?
That Sadie Jean.She hard.
Sadie Jean.I gotta check it out.
Bro, but Rod Wave is like Michael Jackson to the young generation right now.I feel like so many of the younger artists that we talk to, that's pretty much their favorite artist.
Yeah, he goes crazy. Um, okay.Where are we at?Where are we at?
Um, so where y'all shot the D to the A or D to the murder video?Yeah.That's a forward.That's your hood.Where y'all shot it at or something?Y'all just was in Fort Worth.
Damn nigga.Something like that.It ain't my hood though.
That shit teed up though.Cause I seen Kostanat reacting to it.Yeah.
How y'all felt when y'all seen him?Because bro, that's a good look.Like he on there.Y'all ain't, cause you said you've been rapping for like a year.You've been doing it for like four months.Nah, I mean.Less than that.9th grade?
Well 9th grade, but you said it really started taking off.
So when you see a nigga like Kha Sanat, one of the biggest niggas in this shit, streaming wise, he on there reacting to y'all song.What y'all thoughts on shit like that?I don't be thinking shit.
Yeah, I don't.He be cool. How I found out?Somebody told me, so shit.
He ain't really like, ain't like he just mad, like went straight to hard shit.He was reacting to a lot of shit.He was reacting to everybody's shit.
Oh, I just seen the clip of him reacting to that.He was reacting to a lot of people's shit.
Shit, y'all on the radar, you know what I'm saying?Yeah, that's hard.He ain't like, yeah.Damn, I'm playing with nothing.Still wrecking this shit.Cops might be big in a bit.
So, who is Kooza though?Because you got the song Free Kooza.I think they said he was in the music video.He must have made it.You not in the music video?
He is in the music video.He on my security car though.Alright, for sure.So he's still locked up?Yeah.What he locked up for?You tell me who he is, who he is first.Who is?That's your homie though, right?
Yeah, that's my homie though.Yeah, that's my brother. He locked up for some bullshit.Some bullshit.He good though.I ain't even gonna say what he locked up for.Point is he gonna be right back.He innocent.They can go look though.
They know what he locked up for.For sure they know.He innocent though for no brother.
He was rapping or anything, or he was just chilling?What was he doing music?
Nah, he wasn't rapping, but he done played in the studio.I recorded his ass in the studio.I reposted it.
It was a crazy ass.How long ago he get locked up?
How long he been in jail for?Probably like a few months now.Like two or three months.He ain't been in there long.They just came and got him.
In terms of dealing with the cops, are they difficult to deal with where you're from?Or is it, do they kind of let people do their own thing?
Shit, I ain't gonna lie.Like they, it's like certain parts, like certain parts, I'm all like, you know, like, you know, I drive right over here, they be on bullshit over here.But like, you know, I'm all different.
Like when I went to Chicago, I ain't know they got a no chase law and all that type of shit.Like, if I knew that shit, Boy, but like.
Down South cops in general.You know what I'm saying?
Texas, Florida.People are crazy all around that bitch.It's different.Like Dallas, ain't like them hoes.On your ass, you know they chase you, throw spikes on your ass, all that shit.Petty, like they chase us on some petty shit.
Just for a stolen car, they throw spikes on my ass.
That's not petty though.Yeah.
And it ain't like a nigga ride for nothing.My brother, he just jumped in that hoe.He ain't was in that hoe.And threw the spice out on y'all?Yeah, he took him on the track, threw the spice on him.I'm just telling you that.
I'm just telling the dumbass, don't rig.Don't rig.Just don't rig.I'm going to jump up out this hoe.We in the six.We made it to the six.They chasing us all around there, bitch.I'm like, just don't rig.We're going to Portland.Dumbass rig.
Her bag hit me. I got me dizzy as hell, but I still jump up out the house.As soon as he jump out, he fire, they get it.I keep running, keep running.Jumped the gate and everything, but I just got tired.I was too hot to lay right there.
They came and got me, like, come to me.I'm like, hell nah, y'all come get me.I could've got away though.I was just too tired.
I always wonder what the airbag hitting you in the face must feel like.That shit is fucking crazy.
You didn't realize that bitch hit you, right?
Yeah, nah, I didn't really realize it, but now I'm like, damn, that's what that was.Yeah, I told him I was dizzy, like I'm running with my backpack and shit.I ain't even know him, I got my gun in here, but I'm just trippin'.
Like, he got a backpack and shit.I'm like, you ain't really ... I'm just keep running.I got me dizzy.That was like little petty shit.That's what y'all got booked for? My head, man.My brother, he was driving.
My partner was driving, so I just got a gun charge.I got my gun charge.I ain't talking about shit.I threw it when I was just standing right there.I just took my charge, shit.I got out though.Lil Bon.I went to juvenile for some eggs.Egg rap.
But it was my first time going.But Air 69 ain't got no credit, so I got a few gun charges.Shit ain't really nothing though.
Do you feel like being too in the streets is holding you back with the music, or you got a good grip on it?
Nah, I really ain't.I got a grip on it, I ain't really in the streets for real.I'm more focused on music for sure.The streets ain't even my main focus or nothing.But I ain't saying it ain't still consequences for niggas actions though.
Some niggas still know.But I ain't really. Three Saint my main focus is rap.
I just be going to the hole when I go.I go though.I just be going when I go like three, four times a week on some shit.
I just be going when I go.
I be dropping a lot, shit.I been dropping a lot.How often you be in the studio?Shit, damn near.The past two months, I'd say damn near.Every other day or some shit.
Chris, you want your ass back in the studio?
Yeah, but I ain't never gonna get it done here.We know we can't do it.
You just feel yourself getting better.Is that what motivates you to get in there?Or is it like, oh, every time I drop a song, I make some money.So that that can be kind of addictive too.
I love music.My life is music for real.I don't know.I'm at the studio.That how I want to say it. I don't know how I'm trying to put it.I don't talk like that.I don't know if y'all seen me videos and shit.
I don't be talking like that, but I don't know.I like rapping.I know you can, but people in the world got to hear you.That's how I look at life.My music, everybody, that shit can last a long time.2Pac, 2Pac, that shit go down centuries.
Keep your name out there for a long time.That's why I like it. I know that shit bro.It's like therapeutic.You can create history with that shit for real.
You guys record like quickly or does it take you a while to get a verse done?Or how long does it take you to do a song on average?
Like an hour.If I write I can do that basically.Like you're already going with the song written.
You show up with a song written sometimes?
I go with the song written in like two and a third minutes.
So many rappers tell me that they just think it up on the spot, which to me seems kind of crazy.
I write a lot.I really be writing bullshit.At first, I was writing a lot of my songs.I was reading, I'd go to the studio, I'd write.But now, I just write a little bit and just think of the rest.
You did the song King of Drill.I'm like, oh yeah, that's a hard title.You know what I'm saying?Yeah.When you did that shit, anybody felt the way?You took the King of Drill title?
No, I ain't saying King of Drill.I mean like, he ain't King of Drilling.Or I'm mad.He ain't saying like King of Drilling.The whole world and shit can't beat King of Drilling.
But definitely you saying you the King of Drill and that dollar shit?
Yeah, for sure.King of Drill, King of this shit.Any of your homies rap?Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, O-T-S.And what that stand on?On this sex, on this slime, on this smack.
Who all rapping?Put on, if you want.
My Blood, brudda.No I-D-C, brudda ass in there.The 223 Trey.
All right, so I seen it's like in a documentary, I guess Trey's mom got shot up, passed away.I like Memorial song.
No, she, she, she passed away in like a home shooting, house shooters.No fluky, fluky shit.House shooting. shit like that.Yeah, but she had a lot of built behind that shit like him, but.
I mean, you know, it's still a consequence to action, but I said, yeah, it's consequence to action.
You think any of the violence could slow down?
You should die, you know, you die when you die. When nigga partner die, if you look close, I ain't got no dead partner.My partner Hank, he died on some other shit.I ain't no op killer or nothing.
Niggas really got ... If you look at my ops, you go research that shit, they really got dead partners. But like, nigga one night, partner die, niggas get the filing back and shit.That's when you definitely want to buy a slow down.
You just get scared like, damn, he was just with me yesterday.Now he dead.Never niggas get the filing back and shit.But then you know, everybody tough though.
So how do you feel when you see somebody like J main pushing piece in Chicago and even dark, bringing them out on stage, putting up a big collage, including ops, people that really shit on him and his dead homies and shit.
Like, you know, we're seeing some growth out in Chicago.
I feel like that money, you think that's a money play.
Well, some people are saying it's a scare to the Rico play from Dirk, although I don't really know why the feds would care about him putting up a mural during a concert.
Y'all be thinking like when y'all seeing shit like that, y'all like, man, this shit, y'all know what come with it, really?
Everybody know, you know what you signed up for, like for the rap, you know what you signed up for.You better know what come with this shit.
Could you imagine yourself being 40 years old and wanting to stop the violence and wanting the kids to stop?
When I'm 40, I better not be making no drills on.I better be reaching a bit, you know?Yeah, nah, I better not be making no drills on.
Yeah.You can rap when you're 40, but you probably shouldn't be rapping about spinning at 40.Right.There you go.See, there's a bar right there. Um, okay.
So, uh, kind of like one of the big dogs in terms of Texas, everybody thinks about him, Charleston white.What do you think about his presence?
Cause he's always talking down on the gang members and the, and the young kids and encouraging big dog and I'm like medium in the media world.Yeah.
Oh, that ain't funny in a bit, bro.You disrespectful.
We both disrespectful.I fuck with him.He be triple busting all that other shit.Ditching niggas.He be ditching niggas he don't know shit about.He ain't never beef with.Your partners ain't here.You don't know nobody.You don't know the killer.
He just drive me this or something.
Y'all ain't never seen him?
I seen him before.My partners know him though.He's like my partner's people.
Where you ran into him at?In Fort Worth somewhere?
I ain't run into him.I ain't never talked to him.
But you said you seen him.
Yeah.I don't know where I was at.I was at some function.It wasn't in the city shit.
How about say, Charleston White be outside like that?
I don't even think he'd be out there no more.
Shit, he was outside of Rolling Loud.Soulja Boy walked up on him.He pepper sprayed his ass.
I seen a video.He was in West Dallas.He pepper sprayed Soulja Boy?Yeah, he pepper sprayed the fuck out of Soulja Boy.I saw a video.He was in West Dallas and shit.The lines had to come and shit.Nigga was finna punch on his ass.
Yeah, we didn't know how he was coming until he pepper sprayed Soldier Boy.That's when we were like, oh, okay.That's like a nice middle ground between a fist fight and shooting his ass.Blow a big ass cloud right there.
But okay, so like one of the more viral things that Charleston White did was when he did his little, he was like praying that all the BDs and the GDs will die.And everybody could not believe that he did that.
He wild for that one.And he get crazy.And he get crazy.
How would you feel if he did that same thing about some of where you're from?Because he's obviously kind of talking about Chicago gangs when he says that.
Everybody got somebody dead.Everybody got somebody dead or some girl, but I'm going to get this and that.He ain't got no reason to diss hot people though. Do you think he saves, does he save that criticism for other cities?
Like, is he saying that about Chicago because he ain't in Chicago?And then meanwhile, the shit that's happening a couple of miles from where he lives or whatever, he ain't really trying to get involved in that as much.
So you think he picking and choosing? I don't know if he give a fuck what he do.
Yeah, I don't think he got no filter.I just don't think he all the way in tune yet.But once he find out, he probably going to be on y'all ass too.
Y'all going to make him say something.Y'all going to make him say something.I'm going to say something bad.I ain't going to lie.
I might be interviewing him soon.I could for sure ask about you guys.Get a little reaction.That's a good idea.I like that.
How you, who be, J Money be shooting some of your videos?Yeah.How you get in tune with him?You been fucking with him?Because he was doing Jay shit a long time ago. J Money be doing everybody's shit in Fort Worth?You from out there or something?
Yeah, I got them from Chris, my manager.All right.Y'all seen the one of them?Yeah, Mozzy.Mozzy the dude out there?
Yeah, when I seen a J Money- I shot with J Money, but that's who I been shooting with recently.Mozzy.Shot with Mozzy.
Yeah, that was my viral video for Mozzy.My first.
You guys signed it Was that a big decision it just seemed obvious I
Like, I don't know, if you had a bunch of labels coming after you, like, did you think about not signing and just continuing to be independent?
Nah, it was just, I was sold, like, you know what I'm saying?Time, good, she was all good, you know?Why wouldn't I?Time, like, why wouldn't I?
Y'all both signed to the same label?Or just got the same manager?Same manager.Yeah.
Definitely.What's it like doing a 20 versus 1 with your girl?I'm talking about your girl, not my girl.Ex-girl.
Ex-girl.At the time it was your girl.
That's just kind of a crazy concept.
I don't know.But I just be like me, myself.I don't know.I don't be thinking about other shit like that. It was her idea to do it.Nah, it was the people.People hit us up.Other people be hittin' me.Ran the people up.Pay that money.
See, I'm comin', they bring it, I'ma go.They tryin' to get us to do another one, right now.
So y'all can reconcile, you'll get back with her to do another 20 v.
1 at the bag, right?Bag with her?For the 20 v.1, even if y'all ain't all the way back.Like y'all not dating.Yeah.So it's still a cordial relationship where y'all cool.
Yeah, we cool. That's not normally how relationships go when you're young.Normally you break up and you fucking hate each other.Start attacking each other online.
I wouldn't look at that as a relationship.We was just really having fun.Oh, it was a content relationship.
I got a kid.Mine's different.But if I was single, for sure, I can meet a bad bitch who's popping or whatever.And maybe we don't got nothing going on emotionally.I'm not falling in love with her.
But I could be like, yo, like, you down to pop out to this party with me?You down to do this photo shoot?You down to be in this video?We can kind of troll people.
I got this, there's a pregnant girl in my music video last night that I'm just like, yo, let's just troll.
Let's just act like we, I'm not piping or none, but like, even if I was, it's like, you know, we're not in love, but we know that the people are going to geek out about the idea of us acting like we're dating.
So let's run it up and Hey, maybe we go on the way.Cool.
Yeah, I feel like that was her.
So she was the evil genius running the play on you?Yeah.Damn.OK.Don't give her that.Act like you're a willing participant.
So her and the new dude, because it's some new dude I seen on there with some Ellie guy.You talking about Ellie?Eli.Eli.That shit real?Yeah, my Ellie. They together for real, or that's just content you think?
You know the dude?Nah.She kind of a little bit.
She was just at a brother's show.She was just at a brother's show.She was just at a brother's show.
Would you rather date a random hood chick or a TikTok famous girl?
What about like a stripper?She's on the third BBL. I don't really want to hold it as easy as shit, because if you see a lot of niggas, bitches ain't turn down to them niggas and shit.Bitches go on air, all the y'all going for it.Right, Nick?
Yeah, you can't be a lit rapper and have your girl strippin'.That's way too much risk associated with that.
That's what I'm saying, risk.But it's more so the risk, though.
It's more so the risk?Bitches back dooring you and shit like that?
Nah, I ain't have no bitch back dooring me.
But your op's going to be in there smacking her ass, ah, filming himself.I mean, that's a problem.
See, yeah, that's what I'm saying.I'm avoiding all them type of situations.That's some goofy shit.
But shit happens.Your hoe's going to be hoe.
Stripper is just like the most public form of hoeing.
Like like I would rather you data escort because at least they it's private people ain't on the escort a prostitute high-end prostitute Yeah, for sure well cuz every service pretty much selling pussy to a Lot of strippers are selling pussy too.
So really they ain't that different but at least the escorts like doing it in a hotel room and Stripper butt-naked in drunk on stage every night.
I mean, that's that's that would be tough for me to deal with if I was a rapper a rapper ever Right there so you're gonna go out do lit shit and then you come home to her or is she rolling with you doing all this shit They're not ready to see everything a rappers up to right
Nah, they not.I already know they not.Instagram hating on me.Taking my shit down.Oh, for real?Hell yeah.
They take your page down for what type of shit you be posting?You be posting guns and shit?A lot of niggas be posting guns and they shit be getting took down, switches, all type of shit.
And then I was hitting the whippet one time and I put the whippet in my seat.
I think so, yeah.That was one of my main points.
I think they slowly catching on what it is now.Yeah.People starting to blur it.
Because at one point you could just put it up there.They've been on hoe shit.They just be taking everybody back.
I know a dude that did a skit pretending to do whippets and they got him.I'm like, oh, it's over.You definitely can't fuck with that.Because they didn't even show him actually like hitting the balloon.He's just holding it and pretending to hit it.
And they got him.I'm like, oh, this is over.
Shit like, need my shit.They ain't never took your shit?
Nah, but well, they've taken it, but it came back.But the other day we were in the studio and the homie rented mad fake guns for like a music video.And I was, I had to post it.And then I'm like, wait a minute, I can't post this, right?
This ain't a good idea.But I don't know.Sometimes I see a lot of guns on people's stories and it don't seem like a big deal.
What if it's like 20 guns in a studio?I feel like that might be a little different.
I really think it'd be like when people report you.Yeah, true.That's what I think.
Hating the lamely kid shit.
I know OnlyFans girls have been deleted 30 fucking times because they got like a jealous ex-boyfriend who's just trying to take them down every day.
What's your relationship with YTBFat?Who?Yeah.
I ain't never really talked to him before.I talked to him through the phone when I first got with the label I'm on and shit.We under the same label.
Because he definitely got one of the biggest movements coming out of the city right now, right?
Yeah, yeah.I'm supposed to have some song coming out with him.He don't want in my shit.That's a good look.
Who else, if y'all could work with anybody right now, who would y'all want to work with?Y'all can get any features. You mean an artist?Yeah, just I'm talking about any artist in the industry that you fuck with right now.
Y'all got a tape or anything y'all working on, who would y'all want to work with?
I want to work with a female artist.I ain't gonna lie.Like Glow or Sexy or something.I know that shit.I just know it's going to be another one.
Yeah, yeah.But I don't know though.
You ain't got nobody you trying to work with?
It's probably dirt, you know, like legs or some shit.I don't know.But as of now, I don't know.
Y'all got any music?Y'all like, y'all put out an EP or anything?What y'all got cooking up?I know y'all be in the studio a lot together.
Yeah, we got some shit on the way.Gotta get on some more shit.Yeah, we see how they fuck with D to the Murder.Got to.I'm in it with two men.Yeah, EP on the way for sure.
Both of y'all?Like together?
Yeah, both of us together.
How many songs y'all got done?
Shit, there's like two right now.
So y'all got some work to do.Yeah, we got some work to do.
You guys drink and lean?We make songs like, you go, I go.
That's how you guys do it?Get in the studio and just crank shit up?
Yeah, I pull up on them, beat them right out. Yeah, I came to know he played it for it.All right.All right.So Russell, one day I'll do my part.Be fast.
Definitely.Do you guys be getting fucked up in the studio, drink lean and shit, or no?
See, I done be smoking, yeah.Smoking good weed. I get fucked up before the studio, before I go.
I don't really like being too high, because then your voice be like different and shit.And then like, sometimes I be sitting down recording, and then when you high and a bitch say that shit, it just make you not even want to.
I don't like being just too high to record, or just smoke.When you say you be getting fucked up, what you be getting fucked up on?You be drinking liquor?Nah, I hate drinking.
Why y'all laughing you don't do the first no more So, what's your go-to I don't Popper, you know the real person down here
Think of a few sources.I'll ask you.
Can't handle snorting Perc.Bring one in and out.See if I pop Perc.Fuck my stomach up.
Niggas snorting Perc's shit now.I know y'all bloodhounds went viral doing that shit.
I know some niggas sniff Percs.
It's common, but like, I know some niggas sniff Percs.
It's very unnecessary It's destructive to your nasal cavity to when you can just pop that shit Like it's kind of a crazy decision.
I'm not gonna lie Yeah It's all pretty similar um Alright, so yeah, what's the game plan going forward in terms of what you guys feel like you need to do to get?To the next level.Are you just taking the day-by-day grinding?
For sure So, okay when we come to Dallas if we were to film for a whole day, what should we do?What's what's the best stuff that would be notable to film?Yeah, we could go the hood but besides that I
Man, we ain't even got to go to the hood.We can go there just because they want to see that shit, but man, we're going to do some shit.Whatever y'all trying to do, it really ain't shit.I mean, it's some shit, but it's got to be shit to do.
So what y'all be doing for fun out there?
Right now, it's just shit to do for fun.I don't want to be moving around like that.If I move around, like I'm going somewhere, I ain't just going to be... If I go out, I'm going to be with my members or something.I ain't going to just be at no local.
You guys too lit to go to the mall?I go to the mall.But does it get shut down kind of after a while?There's like a few too many people?
Hell no.I go to the mall all the time.
I go to the mall with my gun right in my pants.
They not play with me in that mall.
What's the spots we need to go to eat when we go to Dallas though?
Shit.Probably like Rudy's. I want some chicken.If you want some chicken, I want some shit.I wrote this and shit, but like if you want to go eat, I want some shit.I want some prom and shit.Paris.
I want to fuck her real crazy, but real crazy, we got to real crazy.I want to just be.
I don't wanna be fooling around too much.I get like, when I get here, I just be going on TikTok and look good with it.Yeah.
What's y'all plans for while y'all out here?That's smart.Anything y'all like, y'all wanna do while y'all out here?Entertainment-wise and shit.I know y'all recording music.Y'all be fooling around.
Shit, we got this icy-ass Sprite we at.Trying to switch videos, what the hell?Yeah, yeah.Say y'all working.
Working, yeah.I feel it, I feel it.
Y'all definitely on y'all way, man.Y'all teed up.Y'all doing six million views, all the videos, a million views and shit.So I see big things for y'all boys, man.Y'all do better.For sure.Just stay out the way type shit, though.
Definitely.Well, we appreciate you guys coming through.And yeah, just stay focused.You guys are going crazy.The music is good.
Fuck the opps, nigga.Dead or alive.It's Mr. Disrespectful.Don't give a fuck.Fuck the opps.Fuck them.
Put them in a loose leaf.Put the ass on whatever.Fuck the opps.
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