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Welcome to the show.I am Rashawn McDonald, the host of Money-Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to stop reading other people's success stories and start planning their own.
Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running their companies and speak with nonprofits who are making a difference in their local communities.
Now sit back and listen as we unlock the secrets to their success on Money-Making Conversations Masterclass. Hi, this is Rashawn McDonald.Welcome back to Money-Making Conversation Masterclass.I am your host.
This weekly show is called Money-Making Conversation Masterclass.Y'all know that.A lot of people walk in and go, when is it coming on?It's coming on when you listen.The interviews and information that this show provides are for everyone.
It's time to stop reading other people's success story, and really, and start living your own.I'm here to help you reach your American dream.
I want you to be, if you want to be a guest on my show, please visit my site, Money Making Conversation Masterclass, and click the be a guest button. and then you can be on my show.My guest, let me see, cool.
My guest has founded or founded The Boss Network.It's an online community of professional and entrepreneurial women who support each other through digital content, programs, and event-based networking.
The mission of The Boss Network, this is the second time I've had her on the show.The first time she was on the show, she blew me away. stands for bringing out successful sisters.That's what BOSS means.
It is to promote and encourage the small business spirit and career development of women of color.This year, the BOSS Network is celebrating its 15th year anniversary.It's 15 years she's been in the game now.
Please welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass, the one and only Dr. Kamika Smith.Dr. Smith, welcome back.
Listen, Mr. McDonald, it's a pleasure to be back.
You know, it's so funny.I was, I was, I was in my office and I was just, I said, you know something, because the first time, before I get into that story, let everybody know about the Boss Network.
Please tell everybody what the Boss Network is in your words.I know they celebrating their 15th year.That's why you're on here.So we can talk about the November 16th date.
that's coming up, but let's talk about the Boss Network so other people can grow that brand and find out the value of what you're doing for women of color.
Absolutely, Rashawn.So to the money making conversation listeners, I'm just excited to be here because again, you know, we are celebrating our 15 year anniversary with the Boss Network.I founded this organization back in 2009 when I was laid off.
And I know a lot of people can relate to that being laid off work and trying to figure out what's next.
I was always an entrepreneur at heart, and so I just told myself, you know what, I'm going to take a year off and figure out this entrepreneurial thing.
I already had started an event marketing company here in Chicago, and so I wanted to kind of build on that business.But I realized very quickly that a side hustle and a full-time entrepreneurship journey is two different things.
And so I really had to kind of find my community.And at the time, I'm talking about 15 years ago, it was not what you see now, where everybody's supporting Black businesses, everybody's supporting entrepreneurship and tech. it really wasn't that.
And so I have to really kind of build what I wanted.And that's how the boss network came about.And so we started off doing events here in Chicago, cause I really wanted to bring together black women and talk about how do we grow as business owners?
How do we climb the corporate ladder?And through those conversations, we were able to build our community, the box that word.org.And so today we reach over 200,000 black women across the country.We've invested in a hundred black female founders.
We've trained over 50,000 black women on success strategies, and we've coached about 10,000 women on how to start their businesses.And so it's been an amazing journey.And yeah, we're here today, 15 years later, still doing the work.
Now let me tell you something.2009, that's 15 years ago, got laid off.What was the state of mind of Kameka, let's just say Kameka, cause Kameka got laid off.I'm talking to Dr. Kameka Smith today, but back then Kameka got laid off.
So what was the state of Kameka back then in 2009?
Yeah, absolutely.So this is the thing, you know, if you all remember 2009 was a recession, so, you know, it wasn't just Kameka, it was, you know, a lot of the country.And so I worked for Chicago public schools at the time.And so about,
1,500 or 2,000 people at our district had got laid off.And so I knew it was coming.It wasn't a surprise.And so by me being already an entrepreneur, I was just like, okay, you know what?I've been working since I was probably 12 years old.
I started passing out flyers for a pizza company when I was 12 years old in my neighborhood and I've worked ever since.And so went to college, got the master's degree, all the things.And I realized like, you know what?I want a break.
And so I was happy to take a year off Get my unemployment and figure out how to start a business full time.And so I was happy.I'm not gonna lie.I was like looking forward to that break.
Um, and from time that, you know, our counterparts, you know, they get to go backpacking Europe and all the things, and we don't get to do that, you know?
And so I was like, you know what, this is my moment to really take a break and figure out what I want to do.Because for me, it was like, I was promised, you know, the career.
The gold watch, you know, I know a lot of people that work at Chicago Public Schools have been there for 30, 40, 50 years.And to be laid off, I was like, wow, this is not what I signed up for.
So if this is what it's going to be like in corporate America, I'm going to just, you know what, I'm going to focus on building my own brand.And that way nobody could ever fire me or lay me off.And that's where I built the Boss Network, to be honest.
So I was in a place of excitement, of, you know, looking forward to what was next, And a lot of people probably found it to be scary, but I've always been a planner.And so I have saved a lot of money.
I have friends who were like, okay, you're single, you don't have children, put some extra money in your 403B, save up.And so I was able to use that money to invest in my business.So yeah, I was ready to go.
Now you run a bunch of nervous people, you know, you know, people are always nervous.
You know, when you, when you're not doing something that's normal, cause normal is 40 hour a week jobs, you know, cause they understand getting up, go work for somebody, get a check, health benefits, vacation, sick days.
See a lot of people are, I want to use the word brainwash cause that's not it.I did that job, but an entrepreneur thinks differently.It's fear.
And that fear is like, and let me tell you the difference between an entrepreneur and a 40 hour a week person.An entrepreneur don't want to work 40 hours, but as an entrepreneur, they will work 80 hours.So that's the difference.
They work 80 hours for themselves, but don't want to work 40 hours for somebody else.That is the difference between an entrepreneur and a person who works 40 hours a week.Now, that fear that she brought out, I can tell you this.I am afraid.
I'm not going to joke.I am afraid.But I plan.And that's what she was talking about.She spent that year off planning.She had already.Yeah. Save money.She wouldn't like jumping off the cliff without a parachute.She was thinking about the process.
She knew.She didn't say she was shocked.She was disappointed it happened.But she wasn't shocked when she got laid off.Now, the sad part about it, a lot of people were shocked they got laid off.
Because even though they were telling you it was going to happen, a lot of people didn't prepare for that.Now, the Boston Network.
You know what?I'm going to say one quick thing.I think, you know, for entrepreneurs, You can be just like anything.You can be taught, but sometimes it's innately in you.And I'll be honest, I feel like I was born to be an entrepreneur.
I was born to create the Boss Network.My mother told me when I first got out of college and I started my career, I wasn't really feeling a lot of the leadership and how things were going.
And she said, you know what, Kamika, until you become your own boss, you got to respect authority.You got to follow the rules.It's a game.And so that, honestly, is why I built the Boss Network.
Because she said, until you become your own boss, you got to follow the rules. And I wanted to create my own rules.And so, you know, it was already in me.She nurtured that thing in me.She believed in me from day one.
And that's what gave me the confidence to push forward.Yeah.
There are two things that they're doing that I want to talk about a minute.But let me just back up and let everybody know who I'm talking to.I'm talking to Dr. Kamika Smith.She founded the BOSS Network.
and changing the ways enterprising women are viewed among the masses and becoming a resource for companies seeking female minority influencers as their target market.
It has supported the careers, listen to this, it has supported, the BOSS Network has supported the careers and small business development of more than 200,000 women of color nationwide through initiatives such as BOSS Business University, a digital platform that provides comprehensive
Mentorship Programming Through Industry Business Experts.Now you have two things that we want to talk about, the Invest in Progress Grant and the Boss Impact Fund.Start with the Invest in Progress Grant.
Well, you know, it really started during COVID.My business before COVID was probably 75% conferences and events and marketing, working with brands like Credentials, J.P.
Morgan Chase, Sage, PepsiCo, and really using their resources that, you know, they wanted to target African American consumers to promote their brand.And so I worked with those brands on a lot of different projects to support small business owners.
And, you know, when COVID happened, it was literally shut down.There was no events, there was no travel, you know how it was.And so I decided, okay, what's next, right?That everybody was in that season of pivoting and shifting.
And so, you know, me, I'm always trying to be ahead of what's happening.My brand had always been a digital brand because I knew the power of social media very early.I knew that I didn't want to be a brick and mortar business.
I knew I wanted to have a space digitally so that I could reach as many people as possible.And so when COVID happened, all I did was just shift that 75% of the traveling business to digital business.
And we just used Zoom to do our conferences and our events And it worked out because we were able to save probably 50% of our revenue that we spent on events, pouring back into the business.
But the problem was a lot of our community was struggling with their businesses and just educating them wasn't enough.
And so I had to figure out a way to provide some support financially because if you know less than 1% of Black women get DC funding for their small businesses,
And so during COVID, you know, the bailouts that was given, the PPP loans, we were not getting access to those things in the beginning.And so it was a real big struggle.
And so I said, you know, as a leader, what I can do is actually pitch some of these companies that I'm working with and start my own fund and have them support that.And so we launched the Boss Impact Fund in 2022, sorry, 2021.
And it was a three year project.And we've invested so far in 100 black female founders. They each received a $10,000 grant and a four-year scholarship to our Boston Business University.
And so the Boston Tax Fund, the Investment Progress Grant, the Boston Business University, all that was paired together to provide our entrepreneurs with not just money, but marketing and mentorship.
Now that key mentorship, because so many people get out here, they want to be in business, don't have a business plan.
Can you tell, just talking to young entrepreneurs, male and female, because they need to hear the truth, both sides, because what you're about to say impacts men and women who want to be entrepreneurs, who want to get out in the small business space.
What are the top three mistakes you see?And just think about it for a minute, that young entrepreneurs make when they jump out there on faith only, or just jump.
Yeah.Yeah.No, that's a good, good, good question.Rashad.And like you said, this is for women and men, you know, the tools are for everybody because the color is green.Right.Right.
But, um, one of the things that I would say for me is doing your research.You know, I think a lot of times we look at other entrepreneurs online and that's how we get our motivation and we see what they're doing and we're like, Oh, I could do that.
But we don't really know the ins and outs of that particular industry. and what it takes for that brand to be successful, because all you're seeing is the highlight reels.You're just seeing what they post on social media.
It might look easy, but trust me, what goes on behind the business is a whole nother beast.And so I always tell entrepreneurs, the first thing you want to do is research.
Research the industry, research your competitors, research the marketplace to see if you're even up for the challenge.Because I had so many people wanting to create communities like the Boss Network, and they did.And I will be honest,
none of them exist anymore.I think the boss network is probably one of the very few black communities that's still standing because it's a lot of work.And it's a lot of work without reward, you know?
And so you gotta be in it for the love of it until you see that reward.And so my heart was always in it for the people.And so I waited a long time before I saw the reward that I felt like I deserved, but I believe in it.
And just like anything they say, if you love it, you'll do it for free.And I did. you know, the blessing was, you know, God kept me along the way financially, and I had a partner who supported me.
But the reality was, I gave a lot of to my community without receiving anything in return in the beginning, as I was building.But that I use that time to research and figure out how do I monetize this business.And so all of that paid off in the end.
And I knew for me, there was a twofold component to my business.The B2B business, which was business to business, that way I can get big clients and get six figure checks.And then the B2C business, which is a way more consistent business, right?
Because corporations can pull the plug on you at any time.But if you have loyal customers and consumers, they'll grow with you.And so I created a model that included both of those revenue models.So research for me is the top.
I'm going to give you an example of me not doing my research.I remember when my company was 3815 Media and I was no longer managing Steve Harvey in 2016, launched the company in 2017.And it was a marketing agency and I had a lot of great ideas.
And I would sit down with these Fortune 500 companies and pitch my ideas and they loved it.And then they would go talk to my agency. Oh, agency.Well, I got the idea.
And then I go to the agency and say, well, you know, Rashawn, you're about to do our job because we can actually do what you're pitching.So if we let you do that, then what are we going to do?And that's not doing your research.
I'm going to give you some advice on that, Rashawn, whenever you're ready.
Okay.Give me some advice now.Okay.
Listen, we're in the same boat, right?Because again, think about it.As much as it's a community for black women, I'm also a resource for brands, right?
So the same agencies you're talking about, I was one of those agencies too at the recommendation of the brands that I was working with.But what I realized very quickly was,
The agencies wanted to give me pennies on the dollar, you know To do big big big work to do most of the work, right?And so what I realized is I need to become the agency.
So I just basically built my own marketing agency within the boss network and I just decided to go directly to The brand and work with with their marketing department because it's about relationship and that's a big thing if you have a relationship directly with the person then you can bypass and
the agency.But if you don't have those relationships, they're going to send you right to the agency and most probably 9 times out of 10, they're not going to do business with you, right?And so I'll be honest, I only work with corporate brands.
I don't work with any agencies. Because I realized very quickly that I don't want $2,500.I want $250,000.So I need to make those relationships happen.But the reality is relationships take time.
And so I have to be patient and build out my consumer business revenue model so that I can take the time to build those relationships. with those brands that I wanted to invest in me.
And that's how I was able to get a $1.5 million investment from Sage.I have been working with them for 10 years.
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Great, great.What exciting advertising solution is available to advertisers on Amazon ads?
I'm glad you asked.I want to talk about our exciting new ad solution available to local businesses, even if they don't sell on Amazon.It's called Sponsor TV.
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You know, but I found the right time and the right moment to make that big ask.And sometimes it's about the time.
You know, but we gotta be willing to put in the time, but you know, you still gotta pay the bills, but you gotta have other ways to make money.So as an entrepreneur, you gotta be, you gotta be crafty.
You gotta be crafty because I'm telling you, you gotta be smart, you know, and I thank God that I talk to people all the time. I might not be the smartest person in the room, but nobody can outwork me.
God gave me this gift of just understanding how to make things happen.And so I don't get easily moved by fear.I don't get easily moved by the word no.I'm just like, okay, what do I need to do?And I will be honest, that came from my mentors.
I mean, I had a lot of the confidence, my mother just instilled that in me, but a lot of it was because I got confirmation from mentors who say, okay, do it this way, do it that way.
And they helped me because I've always been a young lady type of person who I want to learn from others mistakes.I don't want to make mistakes.What can I do?
You know, and my mentors always told me, we love you because you listen, activate, and I'm a person of action.
Unique marketing is what she's talking about.She developed uniqueness and these companies came to her because they couldn't get it from their agency.I'm going to tell you how I developed my unique marketing.
So now companies are coming to me because they know I have an audience that only I can deliver.That's what the Boss Network is for her. She has an audience that she now has a loyal base to, has demographics.
She can tell exactly who she's talking to, age, where they live, what their expenses, are they married, are they single?That's what you have to do if you want to be able to do your research and walk past the network into the corporations.
They want unique marketing opportunities.You know, I'm slowing down because I'm talking to Dr. Kamika Smith.Her energy is so out there, she'll speed up your talk. And Lord knows I should not be trying to talk fast with this country tone, I am.
But the mission of The Boss Network stands for bringing out successful sisters.It's promoting courage, a small business spirit, and career development of women of color.The Boss Network has had a longstanding commitment to women entrepreneurs.
The mission is now 15 years old.Now you have a big event coming up November 16th, I believe, correct, Kamika?
Listen, Rashawn, I have two big events coming up.I just announced that I'm going to be the executive, one of the executive producers for HBCU Honors.It's happening in DC.That's right.
That's right.My girl is doing that.It's hosted by Kim Whitley, I believe, right?
It's hosted by Kim Whitley.It's going to be honoring Will Packer.Hezekiah Walker is performing.I think Fred Hammond. Um, it's going to be an amazing, uh, event NBC on November 14th, airing on BET, BET.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.And so we're going to be, um, NBC next week, filming, um, the show I'm excited to be a part of it.You know, shout out to my girls, Michelle, uh, Bailey, um, Michelle Thornton, Dorinda Walker, the entire team at HBCU honors.
I am presenting, um, a scholarship that day and of course celebrating our 15 years with the boss network. And then we're going to end the culminating celebration this year on November 16th with our Ladies That Lead conference sponsored by SAGE.
And that information is at ladiesthatleadtour.com.So it's going to be an exciting week next week.So I'm excited for both of those events.
Well, it's important that people understand that it started with a dream.It started with an idea.It started with a person not being afraid.Fear, we kind of mentioned it early in our interview, how people are working jobs and afraid to leave.
And they have relationships they're afraid to end because the unknown is the part of the conversation.I can't tell you you're going to be successful.That's not automatic.
And you learn in life that you can go to a job that you've been there for 20 years.Doesn't mean it's going to be there 21 years. more.And so you can control and plus age makes people fearful too.
They get 40, they get 50, they get 60, they start worrying about change.Am I too old to make an adjustment?Am I too old to have a dream?And with the Boss Network, that's not, the motto is, believe, plan, and win.
And that's what I've always gotten from you the very first time I've interviewed with you.And you know, is that you are a, and this is a positive statement, you're a beast, Dr. Kamika Smith.
You're a beast now.I receive it.I receive it.You know, I think that with all of us, just as human beings, what makes us beasts, what makes us believers, what makes us, you know, confident in ourselves is the people we surround ourselves with.
You know, I will tell you, Rashawn, it's nothing that you can do without community.
You know, my community, the Boston Network, the women that I serve, they pour into me, they believe in me, they give me the confidence to wake up every day and do what I do.
The brands that invest in me, the sponsors that believe in me and spend their money with me, they get me up in the morning to be able to go hard for what I do.
And then, you know, the people I surround myself with, my family and friends, you know, they support me.And I'll be honest, you know, it has not been an easy journey.
You know, the year my business got, you know, a multimillion dollar investment, my mother passed away, you know?So that's life, right?Life will life, and you have to be able to pick yourself up and keep it moving.
And so what I've learned through this entire journey is that what is meant for you is for you.You gotta just do the work.And one of my favorite quotes is those that show up, go up.You gotta just keep showing up for yourself every single day.
And I believe that God will not birth anything inside of you that he will not give you the tools to deliver. And so I know that he gave me this brand because he wanted me to impact people, because it's not about me.
And because of that, he's going to always send me people, investors, support.And, you know, I remember from my 50th anniversary, I was thinking like, wow, I want to do something amazing, something big.
And then I got the opportunity to partner and be a producer for HBCU Honors.You know, I put that out in the universe and then it just came to me.So that is what it's about.
Believing in yourself to the point where you manifest these things through your faith.
Don't you just love her energy?Don't you understand that there's a belief in this 15 year virtual celebration, anniversary virtual celebration.This year's virtual conference will be held on Saturday, November 16th from 11 a.m.to 2 p.m.
Dr. Smith and the Boss Network.If you want to know more about it, where should they visit?What website should they visit, Dr. Smith?
They should visit www.ladiesthatleadtour.com or thebossnetwork.org. for all of the information about both HBCU Honors and our Ladies at League Conference.
Now, I want to make sure, I said when I come back from break, I'm going to tell everybody about how my unique marketing came, because I'm going to tell you, I was out there getting bumped upside the head, the doors in my business were getting smaller.
When the doors get smaller, it means you can't even get in it no more.You're crawling through the door.Because when the opportunities get less and less, that's what it feels like.
And so I had to sit back and realize that I can't compete with them, but I can develop my brand.So my newsletter, 63,000 fan club members.My social media followers, one million.
These are my followers, which means that you can't access these followers.When I sit down here on my show, Money Making Conversations with Masterclass, I interview Dr. Kamika Smith, she's on here because I want her on this show.
So I'm controlling my airwaves, and this content is sent to 20 HBCUs nationwide.That's called unique marketing.
That means I'm talking to individuals within my sphere, that you can't just make Rashawn say something that he don't wanna say, or endorse something, or promote something unless Rashawn wants to.
And then my podcast, which is in partnership with iHeartMedia, 1.4 million downloads monthly.That unique marketing is what would allow companies now to come to me and say, Rishon, can you voice this?Rishon, can you endorse this?
And that's what she's done with the Boss Network.When I say 200,000,
okay that's not a number that you owe 200,000 you know and I love Dr. Smith because she's just she's moving so fast that sometimes I just gotta call her and go will you slow down realize how great you are and that's why I told her she's a beast because of the fact that you're doing things that
In 2009, we're 15 years later, you've had setbacks just like I've had setbacks.We've had ups and downs, that makes us tougher.But didn't lose the faith, didn't lose the focus, and the people around us, we understand that's why we're successful.
As we close out this interview here, Dr. Smith, anything you want to say to my audience?
Well, you know what, you asked me about three things. I think I mentioned one with the research.And so the last two I'll give them is making sure that they understand revenue.
You know, if you have a business and you don't have, you know, money, you got a hobby.And so you've got to figure out how to monetize your business.
You know, yes, we're in it to impact people, but you cannot do things not with longevity if you're not making money.And so that is the second thing.And then the third thing I would say is relationships.Relationships are your key to success.
You know, my relationship with Rashawn gets me on this show to be able to talk about my brand.You know, my relationship with my community is helping me to continue to grow and expand.And like you said, that is my market value.
Nobody can take that away from me because at the end of the day, when social media goes away, when the brands go away, I always have my audience that I can pitch something to.And that is where you win.
Wow, again, thank you for taking the time to come on the show.I know I called you out of the blue, and she signed up, got the team, and you're on the show to promote you, my friend.I'm promoting you, the queen of the Boss Network.
I appreciate you, as always.
And you keep winning.Thank you for coming on Monday, making Conversations with Mystical.Bye-bye. This has been another edition of Money-Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by me, Rushawn McDonald.
Thank you to our guests on the show today and thank you, our listening audience.Now, if you want to listen to any episode or want to be a guest on the show, visit moneymakingconversations.com.Our social media handle is moneymakingconversations.
Join us next week and remember to always lead with your gifts.Keep winning.The American dream is available to you.Just keep listening. This has been another edition of Money-Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by me, Rashawn McDonald.
Thank you to our guests on the show today, and thank you, our listening audience.Now, if you want to listen to any episode or want to be a guest on the show, visit MoneyMakingConversations.com.Our social media handle is MoneyMakingConversations.
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