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It is a particular point of pride for Clay and for me that we have so many veterans and so many active duty who listen to this show. all over the world.We love when we see our little download maps.
And we have people on military bases in the Koreas and in or sorry, South Korea, not both of them, South Korea and in Germany.And maybe Kim Jong-un's a big fan, too.We never know.You never know.I mean, we are pretty we are pretty good.
We've been on the money lately.Kim Jong-un, maybe like these guys know something.But no, seriously, we thank all of the veterans.Bottom of our hearts.
What you do is well, what you do makes everything about America that is beautiful, that is free and that is prosperous possible.So thank you so much. On this veterans day, and I think everybody I said celebrate trump's victory over the weekend.
We'll celebrate veterans day today Maybe do something fun this week or this weekend as well.
We have a lot of news to get to you've got some There's sort of the aftermath component of this and that'll be a lot of fun because clay the libs the the shattered dreams of the communists it is so Fascinating to watch.
How do you assess Morning Joe now?I know you shared a clip, but we'll get into this in detail, I'm sure, but how would you assess their overall emotional state?
The entire legacy media apparatus is in full gaslighting mode.Everything that they said before today about Trump is Hitler, it's the end of democracy, they just act like they didn't say it.They're just moving forward.
I'm going to tell you, there were parts of Morning Joe, I was watching this morning,
that you could have aired parts of it that you could have aired on fox news and people would have been like oh i got a new show on fox news they are moving in a they're talking about how wokeness is corrosive and how wokeness is crazy and
Identity politics is poison.This is on MSNBC.So we will get into all of that.Clay, I have some facts and figures for the aftermath here, but I also want to say we're going to dive into the future.Last week was Victory Dance Week.
Clay and I doing little dances, doing the Trump dance.It was amazing, beautiful, probably the most beautiful election of all time. And this week we can still bask in that glow, but now the work gets going.
Now the agenda, the future, the mission, the mission of Trump 2.0.Save America, save Western civilization along with it.That starts right now.
already appointments being made transition stuff underway in clay the senate battle we'll talk about senate leadership how they are angling to get appointees through recess appointments art on of stuff going on there so we're gonna switch a little bit back and forth they've also got some great guests uh... come up later riley gains how much the trans issue and men and women's sports played into this uh... an attorney general uh... schmidt uh... will be with us as well talking about stuff in this on the senate side
So we'll dive into all of that, but Clay, just a few figures that we have now.Donald Trump has now clinched the biggest popular vote count by a Republican ever, 74.6 million and change.
So we'll call it basically on the way to 75 million votes, which beats the second highest number ever, which was Trump at 74 million votes.
eighty percent of counties eighty percent of counties nationwide moved to the right in this election house republicans look like they are about to take the majority unless something crazy happens in california and arizona
And we've got a couple of announcements, including Tom Homan as ICE director.Tom's a good man.I know Tom.We've had him on the show.Elise Stefanik coming out of Congress, going to be U.S.Ambassador to the United Nations.
Clay, it feels like they're assembling the A-team and they're hitting the ground running.
No doubt.Stephen Miller, our friend who's been on this show a ton of times, is going to be deputy chief of staff underneath of Susie Wiles's leadership.
I would, I mean, so far on the announcements of the new Trump administration, I think he gets an A plus. There doesn't seem to be anybody out there that is sort of a sniveling, you know, like, oh, I hope the New York Times likes me.
I hope the Washington Post is going to be favorable to me.It's just dyed in the wool.I know what my role is.I'm going to show up, and I'm going to go to work.And I love everything about the move so far.Now, we have Attorney General coming.
We'll talk a bit with Eric Schmidt at 130, Missouri Senator. He took himself out of the running for AG.He's had a lot of wins when it comes to big tech.We'll see what he thinks about who the AG is going to be.
You mentioned Riley Gaines is going to be with us, but I would say AG and Secretary of State Buck are the next really big announcements to drop.We should also mention that Trump has said that Nikki Haley
And also Mike Pompeo will not be in his administration.So he has gone ahead and kneecapped a couple of people out there that were being pushed.
And we've also got to figure out Senate Majority Leader, which is a big decision that's going to be made by Wednesday.
that's a huge thing right now because that goes to the trump cabinet it goes to all the appointees that have to be senate confirmed i think there's twenty something of them uh... and it it goes then to also the machinery the senate will have in place for judges will dive into this play i was up late last night reading about all this to make sure that the history and i know that i have a clarity on how this fight is likely to transpire i think you and i agree that uh...
this administration, they've got 18 months to change and possibly save the country.That's really how I see it.They've got 18 months.It's not four years.
Yes, four years for it all to play out, but within 18 months they've either set this thing on a footing that is truly making America great again, Or, they're getting stymied by the machine.It is going to be a fight.No one should have any illusions.
The bureaucracy is tough.The bureaucracy will, on the swamp, the fourth branch of government, will fight with everything that they have.I think you mentioned this, Pompeo and Nikki Haley, they both ran against Trump.
And there he said they're not welcome in this.Now, to be fair, he was actually pretty gracious about it.He just said, look, they're great.Love them.They're not a part of this Trump 2.0 term.He was he wasn't taking swings at them.
But I think that what that is, Clay, is a recognition that the establishment, Terry and Republican or the establishment Republican is.
not going to be able to work their way into the center of the trump administration uh... because he had too much of that in the first term too many people who all the sudden thought they knew better than the commander-in-chief and they started going and whining to the new york times and some of them even ended up turning on him entirely and you know getting contracts at cnn or a bc or whatever so that's all uh... where we see it i gotta tell you will will dive into that senate confirmation issue right now which has to do with whether
that will who will be the senate majority leader we know republicans have won the senate we've got a few candidates and how should top appointees go through because democrats I'll give you the back story on this.
It was incredibly just underhanded and gross what they did in 2016 to Trump.We'll discuss that.But Clay, can we just throw out there, I don't know if you and I have exactly the same picks.I have a feeling we're pretty similar.
We know Stephen Miller, friend of the show, brilliant guy, can't say enough good things about him.Him being deputy chief of staff in the White House, assuming that, you know, that's been reported. Couldn't think of a better pick for that.
Tom Homan, couldn't think of a better pick for ICE.Susie Wiles just ran the best campaign that we've seen for the biggest victory we've seen in decades.So, you know, congrats and hats off to her as White House Chief of Staff.
Here's my others, if I can throw them out there.Caroline Levitt for White House Press Secretary, another friend of the show.We see talent here, I'm just saying.We know people who have got the skills.
Mike Lee, Ted Cruz would be great too, but I think he wants to stay in the Senate.Mike Lee for Attorney General.What do you think?
I think he would be fabulous.He's super smart.He understands the mechanics of how the Department of Justice works.There are guys that are not as constitutionally savvy that have been in the mix.
I think that Mike Lee, if he's the choice, and we'll ask Eric Schmidt who he thinks the choice could be, would be a great, great choice.Because I've said the Attorney General to me is the most important decision Trump has.
Look, all of the cabinet matters, but I think the Department of Justice is more broken right now than it has ever been in any of our lives.
And we need someone who can go in with a sledgehammer and just return the Department of Justice to its message, which is treat everyone equally under the law, regardless of their politics, race, gender, religion, all those things.
And we haven't had that for so long.This woke identity politics virus has infected our Department of Justice. has to be broken up, has to be fixed.That's the one that I care about the most.I think Mike Lee, if he's the choice, would do really well.
Yes, and I've heard some names that are in the mix for Secretary of State right now.Marco Rubio, Rick Grinnell, and we've all, these are all the names that are being bandied about.Who's the third that's really in the contention?
Bill Hagerty, Senator from Tennessee.
Senator Hagerty.You know, I think they're all competent, and I think they're all dedicated to the Trump mission, so I don't have a particular standout in mind among that crew.
The Secretary of State under Trump administration is going to have to deal with dismantling this axis that has grown.
Big piece in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend on this, where you have now Russia selling its oil to China, and China supporting North Korea with oil. Otherwise, North Korea would fall apart and starve to death.
While North Korea sends soldiers to fight on the front lines of the Ukraine war, there is an access and then using Iranian and probably North Korean missile technology and sharing that high level military know-how between these various countries.
There's some real concern there.So you have a Secretary of State who's got some big problems.I know China, Taiwan, Israel.Although, people are saying, do you see Doug Murray on this one?He was great.Doug Murray on the Mideast and Israel right now.
It is the best opportunity.I know Israel has been through hell.We know it was just the worst imaginable terror attack on October 7th.But the Israeli people have rallied.They have fought back against their enemies.
And Israel is now in a better place strategically in the Middle East than any time I can remember in my lifetime. because they've just decided the enemies are no longer going to be allowed to stay on the battlefield.
So there's a lot to do there, a lot to see.I just got to say, Clay, overall, the feeling, and I'm talking to people as you are, who are working on this very closely, this Trump team,
Even they would admit, first time around 2016, it was kind of like, you know, we'll figure it out.You know, we're going to build the plane as we fly it a little bit.That was what it was, right?Trump was an outsider.
This is looking like a well-oiled machine that wants to get after the agenda day one, and I love to see it.
No doubt.And when Trump came in in 16, remember there were still a lot of people inside the party that did not believe in a lot of what he had run on.That doesn't exist now.
So, Mike Johnson, we're going to have a House majority that's going to be announced soon.I think maybe as soon as today, we'll have officially 218 in.
And then the Senate, we'll talk about this a lot during the course of the program, has got to pick their majority leader.But I think everybody's going to be moving in concert.And what you said, Buck, is so important.
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18 months to alter the trajectory of the country, fix a lot of what is wrong, that's when you have to hit the ground running and it sounds like Republicans are going to be prepared to do that on a variety of fronts.
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Welcome back in clay travis buck sexton show we are joined now by missouri senator eric schmidt been fighting A lot of battles with big tech.He's been on the program Several different times appreciate you joining us.
Uh senator and you had some news that came out a little bit A little bit earlier today about the attorney general position and I saw you tweet about it But for our audience out there, what have you decided as it pertains to potentially joining trump's cabinet?
Well, first of all, thanks for the Rick Astley bumper music on the way in.I do appreciate that.
It was an honor to be considered for the AG position, but I talked to the transition folks and had my name withdrawn from consideration for that really important role, because I think it's important for me to serve up my term in the United States Senate.
President Trump needs you know, actual real America first fighters in the Senate who are going to move this agenda forward.I mean, he got a mandate on Tuesday, but we actually have to deliver on that.
And I think that's the, that's the place for me to go do that.So I'll have a role with, uh, judges picking some judges.Um, and then also once we get back into Congress next year of trying to deliver here.So that's the right place for me.
And again, it was an honor to be considered and mentioned, but, uh, this is the right thing I think right now.
Do you know who the AG might be?Do you give an endorsement as you step out?What do you think about that role and who might get it?
Well, it's an important one.And, you know, there's some names that are out there and I don't want to get too far ahead of the president on any of that, but I'm always willing to sort of weigh in.
And I do intend to be helpful between now and in January and then beyond.I mean, there's a lot of things to do.There's a lot of important positions.AG is one of them. There's going to be a lot of judges to fill.
That's another thing that a lot of people aren't talking about yet.He's going to have an opportunity again to sort of remake the federal judiciary and continue to put judges who interpret the law as it's written, not how they want it to be.
The people that Joe Biden is picking here now are just activists, many of which have no experience at all, but they just want to deliver the results.And that's really not what it's for.
So he's got a, he's got a great opportunity, I think here, and he's going to put together an incredible cabinet.I know that.
What do you think about the possibility of some major appointments, Senator, happening in a recess that is essentially pre-planned so that that can happen without the intransigence and the obstruction that Trump faced in 2016 when he was being slowed down and prevented in ways that were
bordering on just absurd to prevent him from getting the people that he wanted in those key roles.
Would you agree that's the way forward, or do you think that with regular order, the Democrats will fall in line enough that it won't make that much of a difference, and there can be the speeches and the votes and all the rest of it to get through nominations?
I think the recess appointments, he's put that out there.I think it's a good idea.I think we should move forward on it.I also think that if we're pretty clear when we get up there that we've got the numbers, we've got the majority, and we're united,
We can accomplish all these things, and I tell you, the Democrats are good at this when they get these sort of opportunities, and that's exactly what we have to do.
I mean, and President Trump was really clear about what he wants to do, I mean, in addition to the appointments, but we're going to secure the border, we're going to be energy dominant, we're going to have an economy that works for real people and working people,
And we're going to be respected around the world.All of those things can happen.
And by, by the way, the 94 executive orders that Joe Biden undid when president, when they got into office that, you know, turn around all the successes we had at a 45 year low in illegal immigration, when Trump left, I fully expect him coming in and doing that.
The remain in Mexico policy was incredibly effective.I fully anticipate that coming back on board and then whatever we need to backfill legislatively to give them additional authorities, we can do that.
Uh, and then on the permitting and on the leasing, a lot of these things can be done when you've got the white house.
But I will tell you one thing to sort of look out for a lot of those tax cuts that came into play in 2017 for middle-class families and small businesses, those all expire at the end of 2025.
And so we can move those things, get those permanently extended.And here's the sort of in the weeds.We can do that by way of a process of reconciliation where you don't need 60 votes.
you just need fifty one votes in the senate and so i think we do that on tax reform one of the things that i'm gonna advocate for is regulatory reform as well because there's a lot of budget savings which is the key that can come by way of regulatory reform that we ought to have in that in that bill so i i would anticipate we'll spend a lot of time on that too coming back
We're talking to Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri.Big decision Wednesday as to who the Senate Majority Leader will be.I believe Wednesday is the vote.There are three known finalists out there, Thune, Cornyn, and Scott.
Have you made your decision about how you will vote?How would you assess the horse race, so to speak, of the Wednesday decision on Senate Majority Leader?
It's hard to know.I'm not sure any of the three of them who I'm talking to all the time Uh, no either actually where the votes are all at.Uh, I think the input that you get from, from, um, folks back home is all good.
Um, but I'm wait, I'm hearing all of them out.And I mean that sincerely, like I'm talking to people literally today, there's a candidate forum tomorrow.What is it?
Monday, tomorrow night, when we get back up there, I think there's a lot of people who still haven't made their mind up and here's, what's important to me.And this is what I communicate.And I'm just, again, wanting to hear what the response is.
I want an agenda. that is reflective of what the American people want, what they voted for on Tuesday, right?
I will tell you my first two years up there, the biggest disappointment often is that the conversations in Washington are so detached from what people really talk about at home.
Like, you know, when people say the most important thing that we need to do is send another $60 billion to Ukraine, Literally nobody in Missouri has ever told me that.
No, not one person has said, Eric, that's the most important thing you can do when you go up to Washington.But in our lunches in just sort of that cocoon that people live in in DC, that is a lot of the conversation.
So I want an agenda that's reflective of what real people want.And also there's some reform.These omnibus bills at midnight where two or three people are writing the bill, people don't read them and you vote them.That has to end.
Like, let's do individual appropriations bills.Let's have real amendments.I think that's what people think we do up there, but a lot of it's kabuki theater and very scripted, and that has to change.
So those are the two things that I'm talking about, you know, with the people who are running.
Do you think that there, Senator, is any appetite for?Well, I'll just say it for deciding that the filibuster as a means to prevent Trump's agenda from being achieved may have to be something that, as Trump would say, you're going to look at.
Well, I think everything's sort of on the table, but I think one of the big concerns, of course, is that the Democrats have run on this specifically if the filibuster is going to pack the court.
you know, to pack the court, add state to the union, federalize elections, and grant amnesty to 15 million people.So I think everything can be on the table.We ought to think about it.But also, if you did it, what would you do?
What are the Democrats willing to do, right?So there's not, I don't think, any real discussion about that right now.But again, I think that moving forward, we have to be able to deliver, I think, for the American people.
Senator, right now California's only counted about 72% of its overall ballots.You mentioned federal elections.
We're fortunate that Trump won by such a substantial majority that the electoral college wasn't thrown into question, but Nevada, Arizona, it's taken them forever to count. How do we go back to elections being decided in at least 24 hours?
Because it certainly seems to a lot of us like we're going back in time and now count votes slower than we did in the 1800s.
Yeah, my hope, honestly, guys, is that this system, it doesn't help anybody.OK, so just take yourself out of our red and blue jerseys for a minute.Idea that you don't know for a week who won. is insane.It doesn't happen anywhere in the world.
It only furthers the belief in the distrust, right, in our system.And that just has to change.
Now, I think that there are probably some things you can do on the federal level, but as Republicans who sort of adopted this position, that this should be, this is a state decision, right?
Like how you run the elections, the states sort of decide these things. But what you're starting to see what the Democrats want to do is have federal laws that don't allow you to have voter ID.
You know, like those are the sorts of things that they want to do.I don't think even in Democrat states, this is a good thing.So I think persuasion is a piece of it.
I think photo ID, one of the things that we can do on a federal level, which we should do, which is the SAVE Act, which is to make sure that illegal immigrants aren't voting in our elections.
For the people who tell you it's already illegal, you don't need to do anything.Well, it's also illegal to be here illegally, like, but people do it.
And once you get a driver's license, which you can get as an illegal immigrant, all you got to do at the DMV is just say, yes, when they ask you, do you want to register to vote?
No one really checks it after that, unless there's something crazy that happens.So there are some things we should do. But this wasn't controversial, guys, even just like a decade ago.There was the Carter-Baker Commission.
They had ten recommendations.Many of them were, same day, you know, make sure you have the election results come in that day, have voter ID.If you're going to have mail-in balloting, make sure you have signature verification.
I think that maybe the Democrats, if they learned their lesson, these crazy positions they've taken have been rejected by the American people, and they come back a little bit, but we'll see.
We're talking to Senator Schmidt of Missouri, and one more for you, Senator.
It seems like Chuck Schumer is playing some games here, not allowing Dave McCormick, who is clearly, by the vote of the people of Pennsylvania, going to be the next senator from that state.But he's not being invited to orientation by Schumer.
What the heck is going on?
He's being a baby, is what's going on.Just take the L, move on.The APs called it. I and Mike Lee and some others have offered to escort Mr. McCormick, uh, to, to his orientation, if that is necessary.
Uh, all of this is just, well, you guys have to understand, and you know, and your listeners probably to some degree, Chuck Schumer is a total control freak.Like this guy, um, consolidates power and wants to execute it.
He can't handle the fact that he lost one of his incumbents lost in a state like Pennsylvania.So he's just throwing kind of a temper tantrum, but. David McCormick has every right to be there.
The people of Pennsylvania deserve to have their senator understand where, like, the bathrooms are and get their letterhead together and start to get, you know, phone lines operating for constituent issues.
So these are the things that you start to do in that orientation, because, you know, I was there two years ago.There's a lot.I mean, it's a new gig.It's a new town.You've got to hire staff, and we want to make sure that he gets off to a good start.
So I'm confident that he'll be there, and if he needs somebody to help him get in the door, I'll be happy to help.
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I feel good.And indeed, Clay, I knew that I would with the Trump victory here.It is fantastic.Feels like the country, like a weight has been lifted.The future is brighter for all Americans, even those who unfortunately voted for Kamala.But that's OK.
for all americans uh... things might be a little complicated for some illegals will come into the country and committed crimes in particular while they're here but for americans i think the future is very bright indeed and we should talk about what that looks like what the mission is i just were go back to this in case you are where where there's the first hour some importance uh... stats here for the victory as more numbers are coming in first off we know we have a trump victory
We know we have a popular vote win by Donald Trump, 75 million approximately. votes for Donald Trump, beating the 74 million that he got in 2020.80% of counties moved to the right nationwide.80% of counties overall became more Republican.
And you have lots and lots of data to look at.And we'll have more also on the different breakdowns, demographics.Clay was talking about how the youth vote, much stronger for Trump than a lot of people anticipated.
And I do, if I may, there was a moment in time
in august when kamala harris was all oh my gosh kamala harris is gonna win it's amazing there were the media was running the playbook oh she's up in all the swing states overnight oh and and i clay now this wasn't a bet this was just a prediction but i gotta say this was in august in the darkest moments for the trump campaign at least according to the media i don't think trump campaign believed any of this crap
But this was the prediction I made in August of this year.Play 25.It's going to be OK.Trump's going to win this thing.All right.I have I have faith that he's going to win and he's going to win solidly.I think I'll tell you this.
Mark this prediction down.I think he's going to beat Kamala Harris by more than he beat Hillary Clinton in 2016.There you go. Who would have seen that coming, right?Remember what we felt like in 2016?
I think he will beat Kamala Harris in the Electoral College by a wider margin than he beat Hillary Clinton.I think that will actually happen this time.
I'm just saying, where were you broadcasting from?It sounds like you were on a submarine somewhere in like the North Atlantic.
I was in a freedom bunker in the woods somewhere in August, you know, as one does, no worries about it.But I'm just saying the phase was there.Bigger electoral win for sure.
You nailed that one.This reminds me of when you watch an old highlight and you're like, why is the like, did HD not exist there?
Like, I don't know where that it does sound like you were you were maybe on in the middle of the hunt for red October, like having to send up the con to be able to to reach everybody. But you were confident.
You did not waver from the moment that Kamala was elevated on, I believe, July 21st, if I remember correctly.That's Sunday.You never doubted.I got nervous about the time, probably, when you were saying that.
And look, I mean, the one thing I got right as we got closer was Trump won the popular vote. And Buck, I think that is making it almost impossible for Democrats to know how to respond to this.
Because you know, if he had won the Electoral College, they'd be all out there screaming about how he had to abolish the Electoral College.
When you win the Electoral College and the popular vote, and you win by the biggest margin of any Republican since 1988, the talking points aren't there to be able to really attack Trump.Like, what angle can you even go after him on?
I have to say, I think that some of the legacy Democrat media was really hoping that it would at least be close enough that there would be this case to be made that they could stick to everything that they did and they did everything great.
The people who have come out and said that Kamala ran, and there have been a number of them,
a perfect campaign and she was a great candidate and the democrat message was very powerful and strong it's just racism and sexism that stopped her from winning are being laughed at not just by republicans they're actually being laughed at pretty broadly by some uh powerful voices within the democrat tent
who have just said, you know, the things, you know, prioritizing trans agenda, illegal immigrants, the rights of criminals.These are things that people, normal people don't react well to.
And you need to win a few percent of the country nationally that are in that sort of normie vote, if you will. And they didn't.And this is what happened.And I think it's a profound, it should be a profound lesson, Clay.
Do you think they learned the lesson?Or do you think they just, they run the same playbook?They say Donald Trump just ran again.Why can't we just run the same playbook next time?
A lot of them are not going to learn the lesson.I think the question we will find out of whether they learn the lesson or not will come in how the 2028 Democrat presidential primary plays itself out.And let me explain why I think that.In 2020,
Democrats lost their mind.You can argue that Kamala Harris didn't lose the 2024 race actually in the 2024 race.She lost it when she said she opposed fracking.She lost it when she said she supported transgender surgery for illegal immigrant inmates.
She lost it when she tried to ban plastic straws.She lost it when she said the border wall was racist.All of those things were said in 2020 and then she did a poor job as vice president
I'm curious to see, Buck, when everybody throws their hat in and they start running in 2028, will there be a Bill Clinton-like figure?Remember, Clinton rose from the ashes of the Ronald Reagan double win, of the George H.W.
Bush win, and tried to run as a somewhat centrist Democrat. And then he got over his skis in 92.By 94, Republican Revolution happens.And in 96, he's basically running as a Republican.
If you go back and remember that race, he tried to triangulate with Dick Morris, some intern issues.But will there be sanity?Because right now, what you're seeing is, we played that clip from CNN of that crazy left winger.
The left wing is still trying to police what Democrats can say.
And as long as the left wing is out there saying, you can't say that, that's racist, that's transphobic, that's sexist, whatever you want to say, you can't actually have honest conversations in the Democrat party in the public arena.
Most of these people out there deep down understand how crazy this is.Let me give you another point on this, Buck.This trans sports issue, which we're going to talk about with Riley Gaines here in a bit,
Do you know Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, neither one has still been asked if they support boys who identify as girls being able to play in girl sports?That has never been asked of either person.Biden's been in office for almost four years.
Not one question about it.Kamala got asked by Brett Baier about the illegal surgery for transgender surgery for illegal immigrants, but not about girls sports particularly.This is evidence, I think, of the media trying to protect them
because they know that it's an incredible weakness of the Democrat Party, and however they answer it, they're going to get attacked.
I've said it's still crazy to me that Biden never has had to answer this question, and it's the number one question that I would ask if I were sitting down talking to Kamala or Biden, because to me it goes to the essence of this.
I also have a question that I would want to ask Clay.What happened to the 10 million voters? Jim Jordan, our friend in Congress, friend of the show, good man, he asked this question on CNN's State of the Union.This is cut 11.Let's play it.
There were false claims about election fraud when Donald Trump lost.This time, Donald Trump won, and you think the election was free and fair.
You see, there's a little bit of a... No, I think the Democrats got to ask, why did we go from getting 81 million to getting 70 million?What happened to those 10 million people?
I think it's because they had no vision, no record to run on, and they just wanted to call everyone names. Turns out when you tell people, oh, you're a fascist, racist, deplorable garbage, they don't like that.
And then when you use lawfare to go after their candidate, they don't like that either.
Now, he's just saying on the messaging front, they lost 10 million votes and should have some soul searching. That's a lot of votes to lose, even for a really bad campaign.I'm just putting that out there.
I'm not convinced it's just Kamala was a bad candidate.Remember when saying her name wrong, they got so huffy about it in the media?How dare you?Trump would be like, Kamala, Kamala, and they would just flip out about it.
They should have focused on some more important things.
This is also evidence, it raises the question, I thought Eric Schmidt said this well in the second hour of the program, Missouri Senator, I don't see it as being partisan at all, that you should have to get your votes counted in 24 hours.
24 hours seems like a really broad arena to figure out how votes went.California, as I speak to you right now, according to the New York Times book, has still only counted 72% of the votes that were cast.It's been six days.
The reason why we don't officially have a winner of the house yet is because we have normalized week-long plus counting expeditions.
And I will just point out, only by the grace of Donald Trump's landslide are we not all sitting around waiting to see what's going to happen in Arizona and Nevada to be able to pick a president.
Trump already had the majority on election night, thankfully.But Nevada and Arizona are still counting. Do any of you feel like we would get a reliable count a week after the election actually took place? It can't happen.
The longer the counting takes, the less confidence anyone has, Republican, Democrat, Independent, in the actual tally.
And in fact, the one race that's still significant, where the counting is still going on, and they're trying to extend it, is in Pennsylvania, where they're trying to take away Dave McCormick from his win.Now, he's got a 40,000 vote lead.
The AP has called it.He's going to be the senator from Pennsylvania.
But all the people out there who told you you have to respect democracy and you can't deny elections As soon as they have the tiniest tiniest scintilla of an opportunity to challenge elections.
Guess what they do They challenge elections and I bet buck there will be a bunch of members of the democrat house And a bunch of democrat senators who are going to claim by the time certification happens That trump didn't actually win and they have issues with the way the count happens
Happened I guarantee you some members of the house and the Senate who are Democrats are going to deny Trump's election in January They have been though they've been Flabbergasted by this the fun word to say they've been flabbergasted.
They've been Slapped down in a way.They absolutely were not expecting, you know I was asked clay I gave a speech over the weekend down here Miami Beach at a conference and and I was asked one of the riots going to happen
Now, do I think there'll be some antifa lunatics and stuff in D.C.when Trump gets inaugurated?Probably.There's people that those people are just they're losers.I mean, it's sad.
You know, they think that running around dressed all in black and we're fighting fascism, you know, it's very sad. A lot of purple hair in that crew, by the way.
So you notice we don't say blue hair anymore because some of you thought we're talking about old people.No, we mean people that dye their hair like unnatural colors of, you know, fuchsia or, you know, like electric pink or something.Okay.
There's a lot of that going on with the Antifa crowd. I would say there's not going to be any real movement toward the riots that a lot of us were expecting, though, just because they got beat so badly that they can't even.
I'm going to do a little sports play.You ready for this?
If you lose by four touchdowns and you complain about the refs, you just get made fun of, right?Yeah.If you lose by a field goal and you say that one of those yellow flags got thrown for the penalty, or things, then maybe you have a case, right?
But if you lose by four touchdowns, you just look like a crybaby.
And Democrats kind of lost by three or four touchdowns here.They lost by three or four touchdowns.I also think, to your point, they acknowledge the Hitler thing is so such a lie.Biden is having lunch with Trump in the White House on Wednesday.
Would you ever have lunch in the White House with Hitler?I mean, they just abandoned it as soon as they lost.I mean, honestly, think about it.It's quite a philosophy question.
I mean, if Hitler was, like, inviting you over before all the really bad stuff happened for lunch, like, you know what I mean?Are you going to sit with Hitler and be like, hey, would you like scrambled?Would you like eggs over easy?
Hey, maybe some avocado toast?No, it was all a lie. They went from Trump is Hitler to, hey, we're going to have lunch together in one day.
So I'm just going to say I think Trump should come out and I've gotten some of you disagree with me on this.That's fine.I like a little disagreement.You know what I mean?
I'm going to Thanksgiving in the Sexton household just turns into, you know, who is the most right wing at the table a lot of the time.So we even fight even though we agree on stuff.
Clay, I would say I think Trump should broach the topic of pardoning Hunter.
because it gives, it creates a tone, it creates a political win for him, a little political capital of being a reasonable guy, just like he was with Hillary, didn't go after Hillary after his win in 2016.
I think Biden's going to pardon Biden, you know, Hunter will pardon, I'm sorry, Hunter will pardon, Joe will pardon Hunter anyway, but why not just say, I just, you know, if Joe doesn't want to do it, I'll do it.
If he doesn't want to like sully his hands with pardoning his own son, as a new president, I would do it.Because I don't think Joe would wait for that, but I think it gets ahead of it in a way where there's nothing but upside for him.
A part of me thinks Joe Biden might pardon Trump while also pardoning Hunter.
It would be if, first of all, I think him pardoning Trump create a lot of upside for him in the legacy department.
He would have won, and he would have been the magnanimous elder statesman grossly shoved aside by nefarious forces within the Democrat Party.
If I'm the curator of the Biden Museum, this is a good thing.Think about it, Bob.Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.
It doesn't change the fact that Biden will have gone after him and been totally the head of a Department of Justice running roughshod over his political opponents.
But in the history books, when people don't go into the specifics of understanding everything, it might be seen as an important olive branch.It also would allow him to then pardon Hunter and not create the same storm of attention.
You made that call a long time ago, and you may end up being right on it, and that would be quite a distant prediction to hit right on the money shot.
It's like you and JD Vance.
Thank you very much in that sort of vein of a long way our prediction.I just say this clay I also want Trump to and the the incoming administration to just Do what they can to calm down the lunatics?
Because if they really move forward on these deportations stuff is gonna get oh, it's I'm telling you that it's gonna get hot out there It's gonna get messy out there.So anyway
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.Riley Gaines is with us now of Outkick.And she was a top swimmer, as you will recall, and swam against the guy who swam then as a girl.Riley, appreciate you being with us.
The ad that everybody has been talking about post-election results.So I think after people have seen what really resonated and what the numbers were right now, the data are in.
And the ad was, he, meaning Trump, is for you, she, meaning Kamala, is for they, them.Why was that the single most effective ad of the entire multi-billion dollar political cycle?
I mean, first of all, it's great to be on with you.Look, that was as effective as it was because I mean, say it again out loud.He is for you, she is for they-them.Can you imagine our founding fathers hearing that?
I mean, they wouldn't even understand what that means.They wouldn't even be able to grasp the concept of what is being said.But that's the reality of where we are as a nation now.
I mean, it's seemingly that we have an entire political party that has, at least in terms of elected representation and how our media represents this issue, that has I mean, embrace this gender ideology movement wholeheartedly.
You've got the whole pronoun thing, like we just stated, but also calling Latino voters or Latino individuals Latinx.I mean, this just doesn't resonate with your everyday common sense person.
It shows how out of touch with reality the Democratic Party has become and would certainly continue being if we were to have to live through a Harris-Waltz administration.
Riley, good to hear from you.
I was with you on election night six days ago, and as the results were coming in, I told you, I think this election might have been different if Leah Thomas does not swim against you, and if the absurdity of that wasn't crystallized, not only with the event itself, but with you speaking out against it.
It happened in Georgia, which is a swing state. Riley, you had to swim against Leah, who was from Pennsylvania, which is certainly a swing state.Sometimes it takes a little while for arguments to crystallize.
Do you think that incident was potentially dispositive in who ended up winning this race?
You know what?No doubt I do, actually.It just really expedited.Similar to COVID, honestly, it expedited this which showed us which leaders were willing to, uh, I mean, emphatically say that men can become women.
And again, when you, when you do that, your credibility has just been compromised on every single topic.Why would I believe a word that comes out of your mouth on any subject?
If you can, if you can look at me and say confidently that men can become women and vice versa, or that men can get pregnant or that menstrual products belong in boys bathrooms.
Again, these things are absurd, and so we saw how it affected, of course, the presidential election, but also, I think, important to note, these key Senate races.
People like... I mean, we saw... I mean, compare the two, Bob Casey versus Dave McCormick, or someone even like Ted Cruz versus Colin Allred.Colin Allred, of course, is someone who, in the U.S.
House, has voted many, many times in favor of putting men into women's sports.But standing there on the debate stage, he says, word for word,
I'm a Christian, I'm a father, I would never support these ridiculous ideas, trying desperately to recant from their positions.And notice how Kamala Harris was never asked about her stance specifically on this, and it's because she knew, by design.
They knew that this is not a winning issue, it doesn't poll well in their favor, therefore they desperately and effectively, honestly, tried to run from their voting records.
Hey, Riley, do you think that what's going on right now as the Democrats deal with all of their sadness at the Trump, the sweeping Trump victory is is what we're seeing a tactical retreat on the men and women's sports girls playing against our boys playing against girls?
Is it a tactical retreat or is it a true rethink and possible repudiation of the trans agenda, which is effectively that people can change gender?
Look, I don't think they believed it the entire time.You really mean to tell me outlets like ESPN, for example, or let's take the NCAA. These are outlets or entities that cover men's sports and women's sports.
You really mean to tell me they believe that men can become women?That there's no difference between a man getting on the softball field versus the baseball field or a man teeing off at a woman's tee?No, of course they knew that.
So I don't think they believed it from the very beginning of this whole thing.But now they're realizing, okay, society is starting to turn around, you know, whatever it is, whether it's
driven by dollar signs initially and now they're realizing you know maybe it's it is kind of this fringe absurd idea to to go along with this to celebrate this even like they've done.
So look, these Democrats that are coming out, I don't think they ever believed it.Actually, no for a fact.
I'll tell you I've had the displeasure of testifying before Congress and the Senate many times and when I testified before the Senate I had Cory Booker come up to me before And he said, look, you know, I played football at Stanford.
I could never imagine a girl on the field with me.And that was before the testimony or the hearing.And then gets on the other side of the table and starts grilling me.And votes in favor of this stuff.
So, again, I... Sounds like Cory Booker, by the way, just if you're wondering.Nice in the green room, but not so nice when he's up grandstanding in Congress.
I want to play this for you, because I know you saw this video, and it goes to what Buck just asked.Will they run from this, or will they allow left-wing activists to continue to dominate the discussion?
So on CNN, Guy says, hey, we're trying to have an autopsy of what happened in the election, and boys trying to play in girls' sports.Just listen to this, Riley, and I want you to be able to react to it.
I think there are a lot of families out there who don't believe boys should play girls' sports.
They're not boys.I'm not going to listen to transphobia at this table.
I am not going to listen to you call a trans girl a boy.
That's just not how it is.
They're not boys.They're not boys.
They're not playing girls' softball.
I'm not going to sit there and listen to that.
look this is a really heated issue right and share michael i know you i know that you understand that people have different views on this i think out of respect for jay like let's try to okay let's cut it there out of respect for jay you can't even say what you actually believe you've been hearing this for years riley when you watch that video what was your reaction
Well, I think it speaks more so to the problem, even maybe bigger than the actual concept of men in women's sports.It's the whole idea of a grown man telling another grown man how to speak.And again, normal people are tired.
They're tired of the policing of language.Call it as you see it and never, ever apologize. I mean, listen to that.It's just the oldest form of pushing your ideology onto somebody.Demand they can't even speak against it in front of you.
I was hopeful that they had learned, right?Like we have addressed here.We saw people like Morning Joe come out and say, you know, Democrats have handled this really stupidly.Literally used that word.
He said 85% of Americans agree that men and women's sports is wrong. Maybe they didn't learn, listening to the rest of this panel, watch a grown man have a full-on temper tantrum for how he addresses, I mean accurately addresses a human being.
Calling them what they are is peak absurdity, it really is.
Craziness, craziness.Well, we'll have to see how the Democrats try to deal with this issue going forward.
I think that it is really a symptom of a broader problem they have, which is the orthodoxy when the Democrat left rally got so powerful, so strong, that it became impossible for the less crazy elements of the Democrat party
to control the full-on true believers of the democrat party and it's not just on the transition i think we saw this on college campuses where there were kids who were uh you know taking over buildings at columbia university and and just throwing this giant tantrum and threatening jewish students because of what was going on in gaza like normal people don't think that's normal behavior or or ethical behavior
No, no.And the irony of this is these college students have no idea what they're even protesting.They have no idea.It's the same rent-a-mob that shows up to college campuses to protest me when I show up and speak.They have no idea.
But you're right, I think the infiltration of... It's virtually every realm, every institution of our society. I don't believe even it's necessarily the gender ideology movement that has captured our institutions.
I believe it's our institutions that have failed so miserably.Whether it's corporate America, we're seeing how that has played out.We've seen that through Target and Bud Light and things like that.
uh... we've seen it of course in our educational realm we've seen it within our media we've seen it within our our government we've seen it within the health care profession the medicalization side of things uh... how we have doctors the entire even at the end of that clip if you were to keep playing that clip at the end of it uh... the guy says look don't don't listen to me just listen to the american medical association or or the american uh... psychiatric association we have entire
what used to be considered trustworthy institutions, um, and entities and corporations and organizations that have, uh, I mean said, it's totally cool to chemically and surgically castrate children.I mean, we will look back at this time.
I don't know how long from now, 10 years, 20 years, I hope not 50 years, but at some point we will look back at this time and accurately call it what it is.
which, again, speaking to the medicalization stuff, it's the biggest medical scandal this world has ever seen.So you're right, it's every realm, even seemingly our spiritual leaders.
I've seen many videos of pastors coming out now and condemning people, saying, you know, they're going to hell if they have voted for Donald Trump, and they're quoting scripture, and it's just, we're seeing sheep in wolves' clothing.
All of that being said, it was incredible to watch Trump win.I know you felt very validated for the arguments you've been making, and Riley, you just graduated from college recently.
How encouraging was it to you, the number of young men who just said, we're over this, and showed up and voted for Trump in record numbers?
Honestly, I'll tell you, it wasn't really surprising for me, I think for a couple reasons. One, young people value free speech.
Young people, you're going off to college for the first time, you're having to afford an apartment or whatever it is, so the economy, I believe, was a big part in that.I think young people, too, just kind of like to go against the status quo.
I mean, there's that value in being rebellious, and I think it was seen as voting for Donald Trump was the rebellious, anti-establishment thing to do.
and i think that largely in part of look he's got this iconic mugshot he's being shot at uh... he's being indicted he's being i mean they're trying to bankrupt them all these things that were happening to him uh... that the democrats were doing in an attempt to uh... to get him to go away really i think especially in talking about young people it really only made him more reliable uh... more of this this iconic figure that i believe
mobilize people to get to the polls, and not just men.We've seen the numbers and the shift, and even young women, compared to four years ago.So again, I think it was historic.
I mean, this is really kind of like a once-in-a-lifetime type of thing, I think. Uh, of course, this was only my second election being able to vote.
Uh, and this time compared to four years ago, uh, I mean, it just, the vibe shift is, is entirely there, especially among young people.
Riley Gaines, you can check out the podcast at Outkick among many other things she is doing to fight for the right side of, uh, of sanity.Riley, keep up the good work.You were instrumental to this result.Thank you for everything you did.
Well, thank you guys.Appreciate you always.
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