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Welcome in Klay Travis, Buck Sexton show.I appreciate all of you hanging out with us.I just keep smiling, Buck.I know many of you out there all over the country and around the world feel the same way that I do.I just find myself.
unable to put down my phone as the fallout from Trump's massive nationwide victory 312 electoral votes continues to absolutely drive everyone on the left utterly insane and there are so many great clips that we have pulled for you today
where we can basically tap dance through the refuse of these individuals' broken brains.And I think you guys are going to very much enjoy it.I can't, I watched the woman bragging about buying champagne that we played yesterday, Buck.
I bet I've watched that video five times.I can't, I can't stop watching it.Every time I watch it, it gets better and better.We may need to play that again today for people who might've missed it yesterday.
I just love being able to send it to friends and bring them a few minutes of untrammeled pure joy.
It's funny because I actually think she's so utterly, perfectly representative of a Kamala voter.And there's funny, I don't even know if you saw this, Buck, Tulane, women's basketball coach,
some of this stuff is, wore a Kamala Harris t-shirt, which I honestly did not know exists, on the sideline for her women's basketball coaching debut, and lost.She wore the t-shirt on Thursday.
I'm like, these people's brains are just so broken that they can't comprehend how bad they lost, because I think they really thought that they were going to win a landslide election. and that Trump was going to be soundly and completely defeated.
And they don't even know how to respond.And I saw this, and I want to make sure I get this guy's name right.I don't even know if you've seen this yet, Buck.
But on MSNBC, Morning Joe, you may have seen it this morning as you watched Morning Joe, which I imagine- Are you talking about my friend Mr. Girardartis?Girardartis?
I'm not sure what this guy, I'm looking it up because I've never even heard of him before.Yes, columnist Anand Giridharadas.Giridharadas, there we go.Okay, so they're having a discussion about how they've lost young men massively.
And they're talking about the impact of all these different shows on young men.And he suggests that what they really need to really kind of punch back is a feminist version of Joe... I just can't even say it with a straight face.
a feminist version of Joe Rogan to reach young men.
And basically the argument, Buck, and I got to be careful here as I'm going to phrase it, basically the argument is we need to have shows where we prove to everyone that we are even more of pussy willows than they thought we were already pussy willows before.
But listen to this guy.The way to get young men back in the Democrat camp is a feminist version of this is what they're this is I this guy is dead serious.He's like I've looked at all the election results.We need a feminist version of Joe Rogan.
This is his answer.This is what it sounds like on MSNBC if you're missing it.
What they have done in their online media ecosystem is build a radicalization engine, literally the way militant groups do around the world, that takes people from relatively low-level annoyances with the world.Why are eggs so expensive?
Why is my kid learning this new thing in American history in school that I didn't learn?
And then moves them through YouTube videos, through podcasts, moves them from that annoyance all the way, slowly, slowly, slowly, to a full-blown fascist politics.
It's an elaborate multi-billion dollar infrastructure and there is nothing like it on the pro-democracy side.
When a man is just lost and lonely and not yet radicalized, we don't have the equivalent of Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson to move that man in a feminist direction.
I can't believe this is real.I watched this clip this morning and I just couldn't stop laughing.
First of all, the guy's voice is even better without the image on television because he sounds like the perfect NPR guy that anyone who is under 30 and a man is just going to be like, this is insufferably annoying and boring.
But the idea that you could just feminize Joe Rogan and everything would be great is so perfect.
That's really what they need is a pronoun announcing fellow who's going to come forward and is going to tell everybody.
That's a really good Jordan Peterson.I was on the Daily Wire's election night show sitting next to Jordan Peterson.I've met Jordan Peterson like five or six times.Jordan Peterson has no idea who I am, which is really very funny.
It's like, are you a man?Well, let's get into that.Let's ask that question for a minute.Maybe you want to announce pronouns and cry a lot in your pillow because Kamala lost.
He is such an unthreatening man, Jordan Peterson, super brilliant, right?Super brilliant.But the idea that people are like, oh, this is what a Nazi sounds like is utterly insane.
And I've seen this with my own boys, Buck, because it is true what he says, which is mainstream media, that is MSNBC and CNN, do not speak to young men at all.
And they do, because I've got three young men in my house, they do go on YouTube and they find things.But I kind of love it because, first of all, my middle son is Buck, the ultimate bro.
I mean, just like the other day, he ordered something from TikTok.He's now on TikTok. And he got a package at the house, you'll love this.And the package comes in and I'm like, what did you order on TikTok?
And he's like, I've got to get my forearm stronger.And so he has ordered, do you remember when you were in like high school, like the bro, maybe the ultimate bro, like had the forearm strength?
The back of, I had, I had guns and ammo magazine in high school.I had Maxim magazine in high school.I may or may not have bought those electrodes that give you a six pack.Spoiler alert, they do not give you a six pack.
I mean, he's funny about it.He's got a really good sense of humor, but I said, what do you like?
He's like, well, when I'm in class and they're talking, I can take notes with one hand and with the other hand, I'm just going to get really strong forearms.So I'm better at catching passes on the football.I'm telling you that this is his logic.
And I just, I can't stop laughing, but what they get out of the YouTube thing, Buck, is actually, I think, it's like, stop whining.This is what they're being told.This is why it's so fascist.Whine less, work harder, do more push-ups.
This is what the male influencers on YouTube and TikTok and everything else are teaching them.And I'm like, that's kind of perfect advice, honestly, for young men.Wine less, work harder, do push-ups.I mean, that really has appeal to them.
I'm going to tell you something, Clay.You're seeing, I think, a massive change in the way the media going forward is going to try to present some of these issues.
This whole anti-masculine stuff, I'm not saying they're going to abandon it, but they're going to become much more slick.They've become too bold, too obvious.
too stupid on these issues and the people that are now coming out who work what they think they're playing to their audience and they are by saying you know and we just need to have mail feminist jordan peterson's and male feminist joe rogan's which is absolutely hilarious uh... because it also what would that mean i mean do you think joe rogan's gonna come out and say you know yeah i like i don't think that men are stronger than women and you know that this whole thing is is absurd like their argument
falls down right away, but I think that they recognize this is a long-term political liability and some of the voices that we've gotten used to hearing who say very dumb things about all of this, I think they're going to fade a bit or they're going to change their tune on it because this is just, they've taken too much of a shellacking.
And they know now that it's open season on these issues and because of X, for example, Think about, they would not have allowed people to be mocked leading into this election the way that they have been mocked.They used to throttle.
People don't even realize how specific.Twitter had an army of people.You know what they were doing?We talk about them as left-wing activists.They were always putting their thumb on the scale for what they believed.That's what their job actually was.
The 80% of people from Twitter that Elon fired We're making sure that you saw less of my tweets, less of Clay's tweets, and less of all of our fellow conservatives, and they're gone now.
Also really important, like we're mocking this guy talking about how there needs to be a feminist version of Joe Rogan.This is important, and I don't hear a lot of people saying it.Men being strong doesn't mean women have to be weak.
Both men and women can be strong.Look, you and I both have super smart, opinionated wives.Most strong men that I know don't want a weak woman to be a partner with because You just don't want to not be challenged, right?We're not in opposition.
Does that make sense?It's crazy to me, this conceit that if men are strong, it means women have to be weak.That's actually not true at all.
And it's like, Clay, there's a dominance hierarchy, and you just, you embrace it, and you understand that, you know, you better bloody well be strong.
This might be your best impression, honestly.I mean, I think there are people who are just tuning in right now that think that Jordan Peterson is co-hosting with me today. That is really good.It is funny to me, Buck.And I like Jordan Peterson.
He's super smart, obviously.I like him too.I did it with the guy years ago.
But I am telling you, I've met him six times and he has no idea who I am.I mean, I've sat on shows with him.We've had him on this show, like no earthly idea who I am, which I actually respect.
He sat down next to me at dinner and he's like, oh, it's nice to sit next to Tucker Carlson again.
I respect that he had no clue who I was, despite the fact that we met five or six times, but every time I meet him, the idea that they have tried to turn him, him of all people, into some like dark vampire-like character that is raiding the souls of American men is just one of the craziest
things of all time that I've ever heard.
But we also, we have a feminist Jordan Peterson.Pick him, Tim Walz.
mark you've been like we have people that try to walk this walk of speaking to guys but doing it as a male feminist and there is an inherent contradiction here it does not work there this notion that there is a feminist joe rogan that is just waiting to be created is absurd it's as absurd as men can get pregnant because you're talking about to counter the reason joe rogan appeals
is because he is a bro who talks to dudes in a way that dudes talk about things that they like and, you know, there's a connection there with his male audience.
I bet a lot of women listen to him too, but there's a connection with the male audience, right?The notion that you can undo that and have the same kind of audience in effect You know what I'm saying?
It doesn't add up.It's why they're losing and losing so bad because their solution to a problem, which they at least acknowledge based on the election results, actually leads to a bigger problem.
And ultimately, we've got some more clips from them too.I think they are just in complete denial about what the real world is.And Buck, this is what I've said for a long time. College football fans saved America.I really do believe that's true.
But you've you pointed out like I trust college football fans more than non because ultimately college football fans I believe are the heartbeat of American normalcy in the country.
and the idea that Tim Walz walking around in a camo hat with his exaggerated gesticulating hand gestures and awkward weird body movements and everything else people were going to be like oh that's my guy I really connect with him
Again, I think it goes to, they did recognize that Kamala had a problem with men.The problem is they have no one who actually understands men, and Tim Walz is the kind of guy you would pick if a woman were picking a guy to try to appeal to men.
That's him.That's where you end up.
I'm just going to tell you, we're going to have so much fun today because First of all, I saw a bunch of friends last night down here in Florida.We were all talking about people who are in this realm.
You know some of them, you know, Carol Markowitz and others, and Lisa Booth.And we were talking, Dave Rubin, about how this administration is going to be coming together, and it is looking so good.So we're going to spend a lot of time on that.
But we are still in Victory Week.It is a Friday.It is a great time to be an American. And these meltdowns and these cry fests that these libs are having, Clay, we're not going to be able to enjoy this in two weeks, folks.
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So I'm just saying today we'll get to some real stuff, but we're going to have some fun with the silliness because they're having while we are having Celebrate America Week, the Democrats are having cry me a river and drink a lot of soy milk week.
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Like this is part of the fun.This is part of the victory celebration is looking at your opponents as they just engage in this
group therapy session and kind of political circular firing squad we haven't even gotten into the best stuff yet about who's really to blame here?Kamala or Joe?Kamala or Joe?
That's going to be fun because you're going to see more of that and the reason it matters to them is because whoever gets more of the blame there are people around those two candidates who will either go forward in their
kind of uh... elevated roles in the party or who will be part of the collateral damage right that's how this works who's responsible for the absolute but kicking that the democrats took here now as we know it's much broader even then by the nor com what the democrat party completely lost its mind somehow with twenty twenty somehow and i'm just gonna say uh... you know you know
There's some stuff out there, folks, about 2020 now.You know what I want to say about this, Clay?I don't want to speculate too much.The good news is we have the phone numbers and contacts with all the different Trump people.
You know, between Hannity and all these other great friends of ours on the radio world and TV world, there's going to be a lot of connectivity between this administration and your favorite conservative hosts.
And so we'll be able to remind them of things like, hey, I think there should be an election integrity like task force assigned. to really get the data.I need an explanation for where those from our own side.
I don't want an explanation from like the Kamala Biden apparatus.I want our own side to be able to look into this and explain where these 13 million votes or whatever it is disappeared to.
The numbers are still coming in, but Kamala Harris is going to be eight, nine million votes behind what Joe Biden got in 2020. and Joe Biden's numbers were off the charts.
Meanwhile, Trump is going to exceed the numbers that he got in 2020, but by two or three million, right?Which will be the second most votes that have ever been obtained in an American presidential election.
I think a lot of people are going to go back, now that we get 2024, and they're going to go back and they're going to look at 2020 and say, how in the world did Biden manage to get 81 million votes?How did he exceed Hillary Clinton by 15 million?
How did he exceed Barack Obama's high watermark by 12 million?How did he exceed this Trump landslide by 8 or 9 million potentially.These are real questions that an honest country would be asking in the wake of 2024. They're important questions, too.
Oh, yes.And I would also put out there that the so far the after action report the Democrats are doing on their own loss, other than the crying on comedy show, it's just hilarious.
And we can sit here and say it's all funny to you because I can promise you with 100 percent certainty, not that you need it.You already know this.Donald Trump is not a fascist. He's actually a really nice guy.If anything, he can be kind of too nice.
And in the past, at least, a little too trusting, I think, of some of the people around him.But Donald Trump's a really nice guy.He's not, nice guy is not really the right way to put it.
I think he's a fundamentally, I think he's a fundamentally good person.You know, nice can be a little like, ah, you know, like, maybe Brian Stelter's nice.
But I think that Donald Trump is, at his core, I mean, look at his family, look at the people around him.He's a good person. He's not going to do any of these horrible things I think is going to happen.He didn't do it the first time.
He's not going to do it this time.So this is why it's all mockery, right?This is why they deserve it, because they're hysterical for no reason.If they were hysterical over something that was actually going to happen, that's a different thing.
Here's PBS's White House correspondent, by the way, Clay, blaming the Kamala Harris loss on the right-wing media ecosystem.You just got to hear this analysis.Play four.
Maybe it's not so much Democrats policies or messaging or the words that they use specifically, but there is an entire right-wing media ecosystem.It doesn't exist on the left.It does not exist in the center or mainstream.
And people are getting their information in very different ways now.And Donald Trump and Republicans and Elon Musk and Joe Rogan know exactly how to reach Americans where they are, regardless of age and demographic.
And that played a big role in this because of the fact of like, whether it was disinformation, misinformation, or different propaganda that they were feeding to the American public that made them feel the way they did.
And the American public felt as though that they were being heard by Donald Trump.
The shorter version is we have given people access to the truth now in a way that they didn't have when PBS mattered.
Some of this is crazy to me. I don't know what world you can live in and think that the media is too biased to the right.
and that the left doesn't have a massive ecosystem that is an amazingly effective echo chamber at getting out whatever stories they want.
It was just a week ago, Buck, that their closing argument was Trump said he was going to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad and murder her because she disagrees with him politically.
It was just a little over a week ago that they said a joke from a Puerto Rico joke from an insult comedian was going to swing the election.
They have the ability with the New York Times and the Washington Post to impact elite discussion on a level that does not exist on the right in the country.This is important.
If I were out there and you said, Clay, where do you think there is a opportunity to create a new media outlet?I would say the Wall Street Journal doesn't count.
There's actually a huge marketplace out there for an incredibly smart, right-of-center daily news organization that would go head-to-head with the New York Times and the Washington Post. Because there is no functional equivalent right now.
I know there are competing outlets and I'm not trying to demean any of them.But nobody in written space has anywhere near the power of the New York Times or the Washington Post.Now Fox News obviously far bigger than MSNBC or CNN.
I don't even know what the left-leaning version of this show would be, but we have to fulfill a marketplace.
The reason this show works is because Rush built a huge audience, we maintained and grown it in many ways, and that's because there's a huge market for what we're saying because it's not being served elsewhere.
But if you told me, hey, Clay, where's the media environment opportunity in terms of impacting policy in a massive way, I would say to create a competitor for the New York Times and the Washington Post.That doesn't exist.
I think probably the New York Post is the most successful newspaper that, and I say newspaper because everything's online, not because I'm trying to insult newspapers, but it's not very similar.It's a tabloid.
It's not really the same aspiration as what the Times and the Post have done.
I want to take caller Jim in Minnesota here.It's got some, some sports ball talk that I think will help illuminate what's going on.Jim, thank you for calling it.
Hey, my pleasure.Thank you guys for all that you're doing.I think you guys had a big, huge part in Tuesday's outcome.Real quick.The left is like the football coach who's getting blown out in the first half.
They go into the locker room and they come out and they don't change anything. You know, and they wonder why they lose.And if I'm the coach on the other side, I'd be like, hey guys, keep going.
you're almost there, you're just a little more radical, and you'd have brought the ship in.And I'm like, keep it up, you guys, keep it up, because you just might cause more election results like we had on Tuesday in the future.
Thank you.I'm stunned by this, Buck.The lack of, this is what I say when you stand in front of the mirror, the lack of self-reflection and acknowledgement of creating the own landslide that you did. I thought they would be in denial.
I didn't think that some people out there would say, hey, the way to handle this is actually we need to go further to the left, which is what they're arguing.
Or the reason why this happened is because Hispanic people are now the, I guess, brown faces of white supremacy.Remember when they called Larry Elder, the LA Times did, the black face of white supremacy? Maybe people are responding to you.
This is what Sonny Hostin said, oh, all those voters down on the border in Texas, the reason they didn't vote for Kamala Harris is because they're misogynist.
And then Bill Mlugen I saw shared, actually, they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary Clinton eight years ago.Maybe what you're selling, everybody is actually hearing, and they think it stinks. and they don't want to support it.
And I'm evidence of this, Buck, because I left.I was just like, I can't countenance this anymore.I can't sit around and argue that men should be able to compete against women.
I'm not willing to take the poison pill here and just go off the deep end to follow dear leader down the crazy rabbit hole of their insanity.
one of the things that if you if you pick up uh... true believer i mentioned at the air air coffers uh... but political analysis work from uh... you know from time time past there's also uh... gustave le bon was uh... french political social scientist and they talk about the role of chance and and shouting slogans in a crowd uh... this is
This is sort of why you'll see this, right?You know, whose streets are streets?You know, that was the Occupy Wall Street thing.You know, no justice, no peace is a big one for the social justice movement.
And what you find is that people, by the way, communists are very big on, I mean, true communists, right?
Like communist parties around the world and throughout history, Clay, they're very big on slogans and jargon because it's actually a way around, it's a short circuit to thinking.
So, the way that that comes up in the Trump context is, you know, January 6th, you know, the insurrection, Trump is a fascist, these become these reflexive, argument-ending, short circuits to actual thinking, and the Democrat Party embraced this wholesale, and it's, that's, because of that, you don't even have them engaging on things like
Are you really okay with 10 million illegals pouring into the country in four years?Do you think that this is a good thing?If you are okay with it, then why do we have an immigration service?Why do we have immigration laws?Can anyone come here?
Why are there borders in any way?Exactly. Like, so what happened is that because they have the jargon and the slogans, they never actually have to get to the substance in their thinking, and it keeps them on a perpetual offense.
They are the mob in the street chanting nonsense.You're never gonna argue with them, right?When someone's saying, no justice, no peace, that just doesn't mean anything.It just means shut up, we're here, we're mobilized.
That was the Democrats going into this election.
Well, and I think we've seen two examples of articulate attacks on their vapid slogans.One was Ron DeSantis against Gavin Newsom in the Sean Hannity debate where Gavin Newsom got destroyed.
I would say the other one, the other one was Tim Walz trying to go toe to toe with JD Vance and just getting obliterated.But that's rare, right?To our point, we've talked about this on the show.You did it with Bill Maher.
There's almost no cross exchange of ideas anymore.
I was thinking about this, like, do I want to just start going on CNN?I've kind of been inspired by our now band friend.I kind of want to join the band group, Clay, you, Ryan, you know, band from CNN.
I want to go on there and just be like, look, if you guys want to discuss something, I'll be respectful until they're not and then it's just going to be on and there are going to be libs crying.I've thought about this now because I do think
There's an opening now to take the take the debate and go on off to the other side and go on offense.So we'll see.Light us up with some calls here to my friends 800-282-2882.
And remember, Julie Kelly going to join us, going to get into the more serious policy driven and justice issues here coming up about J6.Is Trump going to do a lot for the J6?
political prisoners and if you're sitting in a federal prison because you trespassed on federal property that's outrageous and there are people for whom that is their life right now and lives have been ruined over this and it's because of the jack smiths and adam shifts and the lunatic brigade of anti trumpers is there going to be some uh... some justice done we'll talk about that here come up in a second
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How much did you enjoy Tuesday night?Was there a moment that for you was like the apex of happiness?I know we've joked before about what having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like.
I hope you thought about that idea at least once as all the returns were coming in.Do you still just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile on your face?
Totally Clayton.I did, um, repost our, conversation from a few months ago when you said wouldn't you love to have a camera in the room when Trump won, a camera on Jack Smith.I retweeted that because it's so true.
You know, the first people I thought about when I woke up Tuesday were, of course, the January Sixers, knowing how much a Trump victory would mean to them.
And then, you know, as the night progressed and the returns were coming in and looking so positive and Jay Sixer started to text me, And I think it was just like later that night realizing, wow, the good guys won.I think it was like 1 o'clock or so.
The good guys won.The bad guys lost, are going to face repercussions, which of course I will happily work on.
And then most importantly, the burden lifted off of J6ers, knowing that there's hope for them, relief around the corner, and exoneration at the very least, claimed us. their own government not referring to them as domestic terrorists anymore.
Julie, can you just, for everybody, we've had you on a lot to talk about the J6 defendants.
Give a sense, because the media and a lot of the media that I'm talking about, those who listen to us and who are part of our extended radio family here, don't pay attention to.
But for a lot of Americans, what they've been told is there's all this violence and only the most serious people have faced any serious crimes, have faced any consequence from January 6th.
Some of the people who are serving, who have or are serving prison sentences on the lower end in terms of offenses include what?
Like, tell us some of those stories so people can really know this is what was done to them and this is how unjust it was.
Right.So let's start with the misdemeanors.There are four common misdemeanors that the government, that this DOJ has brought against J6ers for the very first time.
Early on, the chief judge, Beryl Howell, the shameless Trump hater, she overthought special counsel Robert Mueller's probe and then ran the courthouse during the early two years of the J6 prosecution.
She openly said in court, we never deal with class B misdemeanors in this courthouse.But that's exactly what they've been doing.So they, more than, I think, 700 defendants only had This missed the four misdemeanors applied to them.
And this is parading in the Capitol.This is being on restricted grounds where Secret Service protectee is disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.Just being there.You even have to engage in disorderly conduct.So there are four common misdemeanors.
Nonetheless, these people were tormented by the DOJ, dragged to DC for court proceedings, and in almost every case, Clay and Buck faced some sort
of prison time, whether it was 30 days or some that some were sentenced to the maximum number of months, which is 12 months for these misdemeanors.And they were thrown in federal prison for this.
So that to me is the lowest hanging fruit that I think is something that the president can sign up on day one is immediate pardons for all of them, the misdemeanor cases. Then you get into trickier areas.
Well, as you know, the Supreme Court, and we've talked about this, the Supreme Court overturned how this DOJ unlawfully applied 1512C to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was the post-Enron tampering with evidence and documents statute, also used for the very first time in J6 cases, more than 300 J6ers charged with that felony.
So that has been overturned. Many defendants have gone to court seeking to have that conviction, whether they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, to have those convictions vacated.
So all of those individuals should easily be pardoned and any existing indictments dropped.Then you get into trickier areas, assault on police, right?
There are a handful of those cases that really need to be closely examined where there really was violence involved. But for the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting or interfering with police, that's the statute.
Assault, interfering, inhibiting law enforcement.This could be to someone who yelled at a police officer, who touched a riot shield, who threw a water bottle towards police lines.And we see things like that all the time in protests, correct?
We saw it certainly throughout 2020 in Washington, D.C. But they were never charged with this federal statute.So we need to look more closely.I think that will be the stickier area, the grayer area.
As to where pardons should apply, even the most egregious cases, their sentences should be commuted.You have a man, Julian Cater, who has been in prison since March of 2021, his arrest.
He was one of two of the fall guys for the death of Brian Sickness, claiming that because he was hit with pepper spray, That's how he died of a stroke the next day.
Julian Cater arrested on an airplane in New Jersey, March of 2021, accused of spraying Brian Sicknick with a small thing of pepper spray.He languished in the D.C.Gulag awaiting trial.
He was tormented for almost two years before he accepted a plea deal.Then he was sentenced to seven years in federal prison.There is no comparison to that.
In any jurisdiction, let alone in Washington, D.C., those are the sort of cases that to me are ripe for commuting sentences and freeing these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere to the sentences that they've received.
Julie, I'm stunned and we're talking to Julie Kelly who's been covering the Jan 6th cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions, the lawfare against Trump in general with us now for years.I'm stunned even knowing how political this all was.
that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah, Jack Smith, you're done.Did that surprise you?What is the latest on these cases and where should it go from here?Let me ask you like broad question.If Yeah.
If Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should we do about these Jack Smith prosecutions?What would you suggest Republicans coming into power should do investigate the investigator?Where should this go?What's the latest?
Are you surprised by how quickly all of this house of cards collapse?
Yes, I am.So, number one, the Florida documents case, as you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July based on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith, the DOJ and Jack Smith have that now on appeal.
So what we're expecting next is that Jack Smith will pull back that appeal, drop their appeal.Judge Cannon's order then stands, which is very interesting as to how it will affect future special counsels.
Number two, I will admit I'm surprised the Jack Smith and the DOJ is dropping the Washington case so quickly because Judge Chutkin on October 28th, a few days before the election set deadlines in that case into mid and late December.
She wanted to drag this out until the very last minute, even if Trump won.
I actually thought that Jack Smith would at least continue to pursue those deadlines, those motions, have one more court hearing, right, to drag out all this evidence before Judge Chutkan.
I really thought that they were going to hold that to the last minute. even if Donald Trump won, that is not the case.So it does look like this lawfare really has backfired.Now, you saw Jim Jordan today.
A letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee.He instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents, evidence in both cases, communications with other parties.Of course, this is something I've been pushing for months.
I've got a piece on my sub stack you classify with Julie Kelly that spells out
The prosecutorial abuse and misconduct in both of those cases, especially the Florida case where you guys know I was at that courthouse numerous times covering firsthand what was happening there.
And the revelation about, you know, the Mar-a-Lago armed raid where agents violated even the very broad terms of that search warrant.There are accusations of doctoring, tampering and even destroying evidence in that case.
threatening witnesses, one of the co-defendants, a close aide, personal aide of Donald Trump, who Jay Bratt, who is one of Jack Smith's top henchmen, tried to bully him and threaten him and his attorney into flipping and becoming a government cooperator in that case.
The misconduct and criminality in the special counsel's office, not just Jack Smith, but his prosecutors and some of his investigators, It's very evident from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases.
And also, guys, as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent at least $50 million, two years of this investigation, millions in contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in White Shoe Law Firm, but also more than $11 million in salaries and benefits.
And this was just the first 14 months, by the way.This is probably topping $20 million just in salaries and benefits because he's way behind in his obligated required financial reporting.
All of his expenses, including his personal protective details, every single dollar must be accounted for because I want to see where those contracts went and who those employees were and how they spent so much money.And then at the end,
Speaking of Julie Kelly, declassified is her substack if you want to read her great analysis and support her work.Julie, you're in contact with both the Trump side of this equation and also lawyers and families of J6 individuals.
Just what's it like for them to know that, well, how much do we know at this point?I mean, my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons.What can you tell us about where this is going?
Um, I could say just, I was overwhelmed with text messages from attorneys, from J sixers and their loved ones.So relieved and hopeful that Trump won.Now the hard work really begins.So it's just, you know, putting together the pieces.
I really believe that president Trump is extremely devoted to the pardon commutation project.Whoever his new attorney general will be particularly an acting DC us attorney, where all of these cases are litigated out of.
That individual must immediately on January 20, 2025, shut down what the Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Graves, DOJ refers to as the Capitol siege investigation.That entire unit must be shut down on January 20th.Any existing indictments?
You guys, they arrested a man from Georgia on Election Day.A key swing state, the FBI Counterterrorism Task Force, arresting a man for his participation in January 6.
That capital siege division must be shut down immediately and then address the cases that have already been litigated, the conviction, the plea deals and those languishing in prison or awaiting sentencing.
These judges, by the way, are still moving these cases forward.I heard from a J6er the other day who said his trial date has just been set for January 9th.
These judges are not giving this up because they will have nothing else to do after January 20th.You could go to that court packet any day of the week, 75% of the cases before those judges relate to January 6th.
I have no idea what they're going to do after January 20th.I do have an idea though.Some of them should be impeached.Some of them should retire.
And quite frankly, the entire DC federal court system should be shut down after what they've done to these individuals broke the law.
overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some cases by the appellate court, sentencing enhancements that did not match the law.After the egregious misconduct in that courthouse, it should be completely shut down.
Julie Kelley, everybody.Julie, we appreciate, and I know the J6 defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've done on this topic.
And as we get more to the action phase of this, where people will get the clemency that they deserve, we will be talking to you more about it.Thanks so much for being here.
I appreciate you guys, and they do too.Thank you so much for covering my work.
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And as we are all talking to you, there are still counting of votes going on.We should mention, by the way, before positive, Dave McCormick yesterday was declared the winner in Pennsylvania by the AP right after we went off the air.
Sean Parnell was on with us saying, hey, things look really good here.Here's the latest. They are trying to fight against it, but Dave McCormick is going to win Pennsylvania.
He presently has, as they continue to count, I'm bad at math, Buck, but about a 36,000 vote lead, and that is a very comfortable lead that he has as basically all the votes are in.Huge win to flip Pennsylvania.But Arizona counting is still going on.
And Carrie Lake, with about 23% of the vote out keeps adding on votes and she is now only down about 38,000 in Arizona with as many as 400,000 votes still to be counted there and Trump is winning Arizona
by a large margin buck it may end up in fact I think it is going to end up of the quote-unquote battleground states Trump's now up six in Arizona with about 75 percent of the vote in now this should never be allowed to continue also in the Senate race in Nevada
It's been going back and forth.Sam Brown, Captain Sam Brown, down about 15,000 votes in that one.Trump has won both Nevada and Arizona in the presidential race.
But the fact that we're still sitting here talking about counting going on, as we head into the weekend, according to the New York Times, only 58% of the vote, Buck, in California has been counted. 58%.We counted votes faster back in the 1800s than we do now.
Now, with that in mind, in the House, I want to update you.Republicans have the lead in, let's see, 19, 20, 21, 22.
If I were betting right now, I would say that Republicans are going to end up with 222 or 223 seats.
which is very similar to the margin right now it takes 218 for house control but one reason we don't have that control officially decided is because California and Arizona are dragging on their count to such an extent that we still don't have definitive answers from many of those house districts out there
Frankly, it's unacceptable that we could be in this position, but I wanted to make sure that we mentioned that those counts are still going on as we head into the weekend.
And I'll also add, Buck, it's not inconceivable that the election for president could have come down to Arizona and Nevada, and we could all still be sitting here multiple days later, uncertain as to who is going to be the president of the United States.
Yeah, I don't know what else has to happen for both sides to see that this is unacceptable.You know, California is a one-party state, and that's a warning to all of us.
They took over one of the most beautiful places in the world and have turned it into an increasingly dysfunctional area of governance.It's still beautiful.Look, I still love California.
I think we have more listeners, Clay, in Texas than any other state, but I think California is number two.
We can look at this on the digital more than we can easily on the radio side, but we've got a lot of listeners who are in the California area, in the state of California, just because it's such a huge state and there are a lot of Republicans there.
i don't know what has to happen for them to see that this is unacceptable because it starts to look like one side just doesn't want to fix it and i get that i know people are thinking to themselves like well there's one side that doesn't want voter id and there's one side that does i know um so this is how we put the pressure on me say hey guys
Florida went from the most absurd hanging chads and dimpled, what was the other thing that was the chads and the something or others?There was another term that came out, right, for the Florida 2000 election.
Yeah, the indentations, but there was a phrase for dimpled chads, like to what extent did a punch ballot count?Like, for people who didn't live through that, it's crazy.I don't understand, why can they not just every state copy what Florida does?
I was going to ask the same question.Florida, it's like, they know, they've got them, it's rock solid, done.And they did this because of what was going on.
For these other states, it just makes their governance look like it is absurd and lacking and it's just not a good look at all.
partisan basis you have democrat republican independent it's not a good look for election counting to go on for multiple days we need finality we need divinity uh and uh to me like a a clear result
should be something that everybody wants as rapidly as we possibly can.
And if Florida can count in a state of 20 million plus people, basically everybody within an hour of the polls closing, how in the world can every other state not just copy what Florida does?It doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe somebody from, uh, California GOP can let us know where the, where the roadblock is on this one or why this, why this can't seem to get fixed.So yeah, no, I, I think, I think McCormick's looking good.
It is going to be very tight there for Carrie Lake at the end.I know we don't have defeat.When are we.
do we know when we will know when the house is done and over with one way or the other we don't right it could be we've got it i think if you look at the returns and the percentages and everything else but i don't think it'll be till next week at some point um
Buck, let's have some fun.I was going to say, I know we're finishing out the week, it's been so much fun.I've got two different clips of incredibly arrogant libs saying that they were going to win.
The first one, I just want to play it again because I think it's my favorite clip that we have ever played.This is Dr. Arlene telling the story of how she braided
I want to play it again because in case you missed it, and then we've got another one that's good.This is her berating a liquor store MAGA clerk who I really want to hear from.
I would love if people could track this guy down as she was buying her champagne about how the women of America were going to deliver Kamala Harris a huge win.We played it yesterday.You guys have loved it.Here she is.Listen to Cut 2.
We're closing in on almost 5 PM Eastern time, and I've been tracking everything that's been going on across the country today.And my most important encounter was when I went out to get my champagne.
I was talking to the guy in the store, of course, asking him, did he vote?And he said he did early voting and he asked me if I early voted. And he asked me, you know, why I was getting the champagne.
And I said, because I'm going to be toasting Madam President tonight.And he just looked at me with kind of like a smirk on his face.And I said, you know, she's, she's going to win this, right?And he says, oh, well, it's very, very close.
And I said, no, it's not.He says, well, what do you mean?I said, no, it's not.The women of America are making their voices heard.Reproductive rights is what it all comes down to.And the women are voting in numbers relative to men.
that are unbelievable.She's won this.And I said to him, she's going to take every one of the swing states plus Iowa.And he said, oh, but the numbers are so close.I said, I'm a political analyst.I'm telling you right now, the numbers are there.
She's taking this election.I said to him, you realize, and he didn't tell me who he voted for, but of course I knew.And I said, you do realize you wasted your vote, right? And I didn't care.
I walked out with my bottle of champagne and happily walked home.
I can't get enough of this video buck.
I watched it five times yesterday just sitting laughing uproariously at this arrogant, totally wrong woman who was lecturing a guy working in a liquor store about how she was a political analyst and an expert and the women were turning out in unbelievable numbers.
They're going to win Iowa.They lost Iowa by 14.Uh, by the way, the Cobbler's camp, my, my favorite part of that is the, well, I'm a political analyst.
It's like, Oh, in that case, I guess there's no discussion about anything.
Um, and then I wanted to play this cause we talked about it yesterday, buck these people who are the anti-Trump Republicans.I actually even heard Jen Psaki going off on them on MSNBC.Like we give them way too much attention.
We give them way too much credence.Nobody cares about them.Yeah.You think. All of us were saying, hey, the idea that you want Liz Cheney on the stage and somehow that's going to persuade people that they need to vote for you.
Here is Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project.Buck, this guy has raised hundreds of millions of dollars. to claim that he is a Republican who is opposed to Trump.Here was what he said on election day about how bad Trump was gonna get beat.
He was wrong about all of it, but I want you to remember this whenever you see these guys getting trumpeted out there as if they're some bastions of virtue and excellence and intelligence.
Listen to him talk about Trump getting wrecked in the election.
I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow, everybody.Number one, Trump's gonna lose. He's gonna lose badly.He's gonna be wrecked.
I don't know what the electoral college count's gonna be at the end of this, but it's gonna get loud and it's gonna get hard for him.Their panic is extraordinary.
Their events in Georgia and North Carolina are basically about as well attended as a Pokemon card trading convention in ass-crack Alabama.This is a campaign in free fall.It's really, really fucked up.
You got a campaign ending in chaos, and you got another campaign that was able to deploy 90,000 volunteers to knock on three million doors.
Guys, the better campaign is going to win this one.I mean, just imagine being so aggressively wrong.Do you know about him?
Do you know his past? I've known him for, I've met him, I've known him for, not, I don't know him, but like, I've been aware of him for years, I've met him once or twice.He's a Republican, Clay.Or at least, theoretically.
Oh, I know, I know the Lincoln Project people are.
I mean, they flipped, yeah.He says he's a Republican, and... It's not possible to be more wrong than that and to be so smug.I mean, look, we took a little risk in being so definitive that Trump was going to win the election.
I mean, if we had been wrong, we would have taken our lumps, you know, but we were right.
And, you know, people like this and that political analyst lady, I'm a political analyst.They. I'm sorry, man.
If we held a contest for the most annoying Kamala voter in the country, they couldn't beat that woman.And she is number one.She's perfect.She is the champion.
Give her the belt. She's perfect, and look, we were hyper-rational on this show.We looked at all the early voting numbers.I went into them all the time, analyzed them, and we nailed it.We got every single thing right.
There were lots of signs out there.And I get it was close, it was.It's a few hundred thousand votes that can determine victory or defeat.I mean, that's the America we live in right now.But to think that they were gonna win Iowa?
I mean, you have to be utterly delusional to have bought into that Ann Seltzer poll in Iowa.And even for her, her career is over.How could you ever trust somebody again based on being that utterly wrong?
That's one of the things that I think is maybe the lesson for me.MSNBC buck has been wrong on everything.
Russia collusion, masking, covid shots, Trump going to jail, you can run through basically every major issue that has happened in the last 7 or 8 years by and large and they've been wrong on all of it.Why do people keep showing up?
and watching a program where they're being told things that are going to be objectively wrong.
I'm curious whether MSNBC's ratings will actually fall, because how could you trust those people when they told you, oh, Kamala's running a great campaign, Joe Biden's sharp as a tack behind closed doors.
They lied to you for years, regardless of what your politics are, and you're going to keep showing up and letting them continue to lie to you?If you find out that you've been lied to, You should change the media, I think, that you consume.
I mean, that seems like a rational thing to me.And I think that's one reason the mainstream quote-unquote mainstream media is collapsing to such an extent.We almost won Buck. PrizePicks.com, Clay, $50.Derek Henry didn't get enough yards for us.
Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Lamar Jackson, we were right on all three of those.We were about 20 yards off from a 10-to-1 payout.Could have been a perfect week.Trump wins and we went on the 10-to-1.But you can still have a lot of fun.
If you're a football fan, maybe you'll want to kick back, have a few beers this weekend, watch some games.I know I'm going to be doing that. No political ads going on.We won.We are the dominant side.We are the victorious one.
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Hey, guys.It's Lance Bass from Frosted Tips.AJ McLean and I recently hit the Vegas Speedway to test drive the Hyundai IONIQ 5N before the iHeartRadio Music Festival.We have an awesome episode recapping our experience out now.
Take a listen, and thanks to Hyundai for making this possible. AJ, please explain what we just experienced.
I mean, it has been literally like a bucket list experience for me to go on a track and to just drive fast.And we got to do that today in the new IONIQ 5N, which literally... It doesn't stand for NSYNC, by the way.No, it does not stand for NSYNC.
I thought they did, but it didn't.It stands for... No!
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Police Sergeant Christopher Fitzgerald of the Temple University Police Department sustained fatal gunshot wounds while attempting to arrest a robbery suspect.
Thanks to caring friends like you, the Tunnel to Towers Foundation was able to provide a mortgage-free home to his wife, Marissa, and their five children in honor of their forever hero.
Christopher's love for law enforcement was inspired by his parents, who both proudly served as Philadelphia police officers.Prior to his premature passing, Christopher was nominated for Temple University Police Department Officer of the Year.
Sadly, it's an award he would receive posthumously.
Christopher was a great father, husband, brother, and son who is so very missed.
He'll be remembered by many for his passion and determination to make his own name in life while providing improved conditions for residents in the surrounding community and Temple University stakeholders.
It's heroes like Christopher who protect and serve our communities and our nation.Join us in donating $11 a month to Tunnel to the Towers at T2T.org.That's T, the number two, T.org.
One in three women and one in four men experience domestic abuse in their lifetime, and nearly half of survivors delay leaving because they can't bring their pets with them.
Purina started the Purple Leash Project to help eliminate one of the many barriers domestic abuse survivors face, a lack of pet-friendly domestic violence shelters.
Through the Purple Leash Project, Purina is helping to create more pet-friendly domestic violence shelters across the country, so abuse survivors and their pets can escape and heal together. Visit purina.com slash purple to get involved.
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