It's another week and another brand new episode of The Granny Panty Podcast.I'm your host, Ruby Lynn.Before we watch our episode, be sure to hit subscribe and like, and even leave a comment after you watch.
This week's episode is featuring the most vivacious, beautiful, cougar, mature, so help me welcome Seska Lee. Cesca Lee, I am so excited to welcome you to this week's episode of the Granny Panty Podcast.Thanks for coming on.Thanks for having me.
I'm so happy to have this conversation with you.I know.I want to deep dive and see what big projects you've got.I want to talk about Cougar Crusade and what that is.And yeah, the list goes on.Okay.
So I had the fortunate time to actually create some content with you earlier this year.Yes.And some of my top-selling girl-girl stuff, they love to see the mature ladies.Yes.
And it's rare to see two truly mature women together, not just two people who are 30 who happen to be, you know, in a studio scene, in calls.So we actually are over 40, and in fact, over 50.
There you go.And I love that.I had such a good time making that content. Yeah, so here we are.I want to start off by talking about how did you get into the industry?Because you've been in this industry for, what was it, 20 something years now?
And the way I got in, and we have a similar background in that we come from swingers, you know, lifestyle situation.And so, though I was in my 20s, And my then husband and I were interested in swinging, but very like we were just exploring it.
Of course, the world was very different than in Canada.Swing clubs were all off premise. uh, due to legalities.And in fact, the one that we went to got like busted for it and, uh, went to the Supreme Court and now like, and then it fought that.
So you were allowed to do on premise because otherwise it was a body house, was considered a body house, uh, or brothel or something like that.That's the laws.And so they had to go to the Supreme Court.
So then it was like consenting adults in private can do whatever they want.And, uh, and then clubs became a thing, but anyways, that was back then.So they were more,
like just parties and then go home and We started exploring that scene and that's when I started discovering also just like many other people even though we were on dial-up I discovered the the like adult websites and in particular Adult websites run by the women that were in them the very like it was quite niche Mainstream adult were not really changing their VHS is over to a
websites yet, like it would sell the actual VHS.You'd order it.So this was now people putting up photos and mostly photos because everyone was in dial-up.And so I was working in education.
He was working at the stats department for like a research firm.We didn't have, I was really burning out.His was just, his job was just not interesting.Mine was, but I was burning out.And then we were like, do we do this?Do we do this?
Do we launch our own website? and in particular about me and our ventures.And we did.So we did that, started working on it in 1998, launched it in, I did my very first live show, which was a 30 seconds or like a two minute refresh.
It was really minimal amount of content, November 17th, 1998.And then I went to the pay site, but we had to take pictures, pictures, pictures to have something to put in the pay site.Right.
I did.So you built your own website right off the bat then.Yes.
And I, we made it, He could code, but I couldn't.But I used Fireworks and Dreamweaver, for those of you who remember that.And I did that to build the site.The site was ugly.I thought it was beautiful.
But you can go to the Wayback Archive machine and see that site.And you can see, wow, that person does not know graphic design.
But you have to understand, that was the time when people would put a little sign with the little guy who was a little with a hard helmet going, coming soon, under construction.
That was the times and so it suits the times but I kept that sight for so long in that look Even in one of my skills improved because people knew it was made like homemade.
It was alright And that was a word that we used a lot homemade porn Yeah, yeah, and I think guys today still like that on my only fancy of the day I had someone that's like do you have any videos in you know vertical because I
you know, I want it to have that voyeuristic feel.So some people really are drawn to that.
There's a lot of people who like very anonymous content where you don't know who they are.They look like they just put the camera up and did it.Whether that's, and in fact can be true, that people are, that there is that content.
But now, and people were sharing pictures, right?There was a lot of file sharing and people would upload whole bunch of stuff and then it would get shared.So, uh, this was before 2257.
So before the legal requirement to say that people, people were 18, especially an amateur, like everyone's over 30, like then they look over 30.Um, but that being said, they didn't have the legal, the paperwork.
So once the paperwork came into play and also like all of the file sharing kind of got, you know, you know, shut down, um, in the way it was Napster, that kind of thing.So, yeah.
Yeah, I think there's still a market for it, but now we have to be a lot more conscientious about the legal paperwork.Even if we're operating in legal terms of 18 and over, we now have to really prove it, document it, store it.
Times have definitely changed.
So once you start doing that, you kind of also want to improve your content.You want better lighting.Right, right. to do those things.So I think it comes, it's part of just the creative process of doing something for so long.
You end up going, I would like to do something, you know, with, uh, you know, two angles, you know?
Right.Right.Um, so you went from Swing Lifestyle, decided to make this website and then what, what's next?Do you like quit your education job?
Within three months, we had enough, we were earning enough, both of us to quit. discovered within three months.
Oh, things were really rolling fast then because people were so excited just to be able to do something where they could do it from the privacy of their own right view without going to a store to get a video, right a magazine.
And the fact that it was non stars, but actually like I hate the word because everybody's real, but real women, you know?
Right.Right.The, well, the, the girl next door type stuff.
Exactly.And so yeah, within three months and then we were doing cam shows, finally got to streaming with our own little network of other couples who did the same thing.We share, you know, they created a little network.We didn't run our own network.
We were part of another network.There were other couples who decided to start hosting. Some people started offering the cam.Some people were building sites.So a lot of people became entrepreneurs for the behind the scenes stuff.
So as far as live webcam, you didn't start off with any of the big platforms we see now.You did your own thing.Wow.I know they did exist, some of them.
However, we just really did our thing because also we did shows.So it was like a TV schedule.So I was on every Tuesday at 9 p.m.
And I would say the only days I missed were Christmas, not New Year's, but Christmas, or Christmas Eve, like if it landed there.And when I was actually sick and hospitalized, so when I was in the hospital, I didn't.
So there was a handful out of 10 years of one hour shows.And they were couple shows with a chat. that was sort of separate.Like you would watch it on the feed on one and chat in a chat window.And then maybe at 10, another person would be on.
So there'd be like three or four.You know what it's like?It's like what you would hear about television in the very early days where there'd be many, many hours with nothing on and you would just get the signal.It was like that.
So there was a noontime show.Noontime was big for the people who would close the office door and watch. And then there would be sort of evening from about six to midnight.
That is so cool.That's amazing.
Yeah.And then there were a lot of people in my city, which is Montreal.I'm now in Ottawa, but I was living in Montreal.So there was a lot of other couples and solo performers.
And we would co, like we would go, I'd go over to this person's house, they'd come to my house, but we would do group shows.And anyone who came to town from the United States, we were like, who were part of the network, it was like, Five-girl orgy.
Oh, my gosh.That sounds amazing.On a futon.
It was a bit rough because I lived in a tiny, tiny apartment.
We made do.We made do.And we had fun.
And you're still, 25 years later, you're still in the adult business.I am.Yeah.
There's a big chunk where I did behind the scenes. There's like two slumps.There was the 2257 caused a lot of like billing companies to go under and the MasterCard visa fee that we have to pay.At one point, we didn't have that like syntax.
And then when that came into play, that was really difficult.That was an obstacle. 2257 obstacle, getting all the paperwork in order.And then the recession of 2008 and all of the pirated content on two sites, that really took, we took a beating.
My marriage did not last through that.I don't think it was the only reason, but I was with him 17 years nearly.So in 2010, I separated, tried to keep running the site alone, did not like doing that at all.
and decided to retire, and I started just blogging, just posting pictures, old pictures of me, as well as affiliate programs.So I did that, I ran websites for other people, did that for a number of years, and then I did a comeback.
I came back in 2020.Because of the pandemic, I had decided the year before, like three months before.And unfortunately, I wish I'd started like two years before, because then I would have like, I was learning so much in 2020, so much had changed.
Wow.So then prior, so from 2010 to 2020, in those 10 years, you were just, you were doing the running, other sites and that kind of thing, not performing.I did a few like civilian jobs.
I managed a restaurant and did a ton of burlesque.That was where I was like getting all of my That's where my passion was.
So I was like building sites for all sorts of different people, adult and non-adult, like all the little indie kind of sites, little businesses, actors, bands, things like that.Really basic sites when they just needed a sort of a calling card.
But burlesque was a huge passion.I had actually started that in 2002 and just did it a little bit, but I had a big, like I was producing shows.
Opera theater. doing a bunch of things in Montreal.It was amazing.I loved it.So I was collaborating because that's what I missed.Once the divorce happened, I was so used to my ex-husband behind the camera.He knew all my angles.
So not only did I feel physically safe if I shot with anyone else, cause he was there, but I also just felt, um, as a performer, like really that we would get what good content and he really knew what our fans, he was, you know, part of the site.
So he had communications with them.He was in the cam show.So he knew exactly.Oh, like they like this shot of this angle, that angle, this position.Uh, and without him, I, it didn't feel right. It just didn't click.
Um, so I was really nervous with the comeback, how I would do it.
Um, but now I'm in a very different place and I'm really happy to maybe because of burlesque, because I had to do solo performances, collaboration, uh, got outside of my comfort zone in terms of, because I'm not a trained dancer at all.
And I was working with people who have been dancing since they were seven, you know, like just really great. and people who are professional actors and professional singers.I've got none of that.So I was just comedic mainly.
But it made me just try things, try things and fail, or try things and succeed.So now I felt, OK, I can edit.I can try.And I did.
and you're doing it all.So when you made your comeback, what did you do for that?Did you sign up on a cam platform?Did you automatically make an OnlyFans?
I went with OnlyFans and first, well, so what was happening was I was having a lot of dreams about making porn again.And I was really intrigued with the idea of who would I be in front of the camera as I was almost 50 at that time.
Just like I was like, oh my gosh, who am I as this very unprofessional amateur performer when I was 27?I was like, let's see what it's like, because I wasn't seeing too many people like me.
But I connected with Courtney Trouble, who is a really renowned independent adult performer and producer and director.Because part of me was just, I'll just do one scene. Courtney directed me.But I decided not to take that leap.
I just like, OK, I have all this old content.How can I monetize it again?And people might want to see this.And actually, I was speaking also, and I have been speaking at universities about myth busting, criminalization, sex work, that kind of thing.
And the teacher that I was, a professor who I was, her class, she was saying, you need to share that old content. it's having a resurgence.She was just like, everyone's using Polaroids now.Like they'll want to see this stuff.
And I was like, okay, I'll try.I don't know that they really want it.It wasn't as big as, as she made it out to be, but I was like, okay, let's use the old content.And then I was like, okay, what would be like to have to do this again?
And I remember very distinctly with my very first cam show, having my first orgasm on camera and I will now always remember like the first one from the comeback and like knowing that I'm being observed.
And then I wasn't so, I was, there was a group of people at that one.This one I was by myself, but it still was like, I wanted to have that experience that I did.
And, and then, and then I got a little more, you know, I tried to shoot something with not a storyline, but like a striptease in it.
And then I, you know, and I made so many mistakes with the, with the OF, uh, in terms of, I didn't know, like branding and free versus paid.And also it was a little clunkier back then.
And so like DMs were different and everyone was like in, in pandemic solitude.So. Um, but it was, it was good.And, um, that's awesome.I learned a lot.I learned a lot.So I did learn from courting cause I did that.Yeah, that was the whole point.
I contacted her.I contacted them, pardon me.And, uh, they told me, uh, exactly.I was like, okay, this is what's going on in the world.I was like, what is happening?What are these platforms?What's going on?So they gave me a, uh, and I paid for that.
I was just like, here's some money.Give me an hour of your time.Let me know.
I'm a big proponent of paying for someone's time to learn.
And their experience, their expertise.And some people like give that money to an advocacy group, whatever it is, whatever works, you know, but it's really helpful.And so I did that.
And then within a year I was ready to relaunch my pay site, which was still living in the ether.Like it was there and I still needed money, but now I needed to, um,
I asked the company I worked with, who is someone I've known since practically day one, which is called Your Paysite Partner.It's Kenny B. And I've known him since like 1999.His team redesigned my website, so I did not design the new version.
It's a CMS, and it's really easy to use. for me and now and they told me like you need to upload like this.This is the quality.This is what we need.So I was like, that's awesome.It was so intimidating because I was just used to doing phone.Hello.
that go into frame rates.
It is intimidating.I know when we got in, which was right before COVID, we had no idea the world was going to shut down, but just learning the technology.And I remember the first time I opened up OBS, like someone's like, you have to use OBS.
And I cried.I'm like, I don't understand any of this.I don't know what a bit rate is.I don't know.
And you're looking at health files because you're, you know, a smart lady, you can look at, but their health files doesn't, it's, as we say in French, c'est pas évident.It's not obvious always.Yeah.Like you're, what do I have?What do they have?
Oh yeah.OBS is, um, a wonderful tool, but.
Yeah.Now that I know OBS, well, I mean, I know what I use.It's not so intimidating.
Well, awesome.One question I definitely wanted to chat about today is because in January you were with Jacob.Yes.A friend.
And I want to know more about Cougar Crusade.Okay.
So it's always evolving.And so My friend Jacob is a TikTok live performer and he goes under the name Boss Vlogger.He has been some version online as well.He used to like run a blog when he was a taxi driver.
So he wrote all about behind the scenes, a nighttime taxi driver.And his big thing was like, I will always get you home safe.You know, he was a really, uh, because whoever's out at night is gonna be pretty rough.
And he was in Edmonton during the oil boom.So like a lot of money, a lot of all sorts of things going on.So that was part of it.And then he's a photographer and a videographer.So he evolved.
He also, because he was a professional photographer and still is, but during the pandemic, he lost all ability to earn a living because he was a nightclub photographer at that time.He had stopped the taxi, but he was still working nightlife.
But in clubs taking all those, you know, like in the scenes, So, and he lost a couple of other contracts and so he went on TikTok.His TikTok show evolved, but he has been someone who has dated older women for most of his life.
He's now 41, but like in his 20s and 30s.And so he has an appreciation for mature women.He's doing his TikTok lives and they get quite spicy for TikTok.He knows how to work the language to be very safe, but it is a way because a lot of women
don't know or choose not to access adult material other than books.But visually they're turned off or they just don't know or they feel some shame about going on the chat places, the stream places that are of the, you know, adults.
So they go, but also a lot of us, and I don't know if you've had that experience.Like we watched a lot of like naughty B movies that were like soft core practically in the nineties.I feel like there was a lot of those kind of fetal type.
The nineties I was spitting out babies every two years, whether I needed one or not.
Like you were just like, woo.Um, so I think there's like, yes, our minds are there.But anyway, so he starts this Tik TOK live and I, He's doing it for two or three years.He's doing all sorts of things.
He plays his guitar, but he's basically a cougar whisperer.You know, just inspiring women who are like either divorced, widowed, or just really, really frustrated and bored because it's, especially during COVID, but at the 2 a.m.
Because the menopause, you're awake at 2 a.m.Let's go on the thing and you go and you look at a nice, I did this.I'd like to look at some nice young men. doing their TikTok things.So I meet him that way.
But also, I was looking at it from a point of view as a cam performer.I was like, what are men doing?So I could learn from a very different kind of performer what they do, see if I take anything from it.So that's a little bit how I came across him.
So when I find him, he's having a conversation.He would have call-ins with women.And his first question is, when was the last time you had sex?And women confess.And so he has a little sort of podcast called Cougar Confessions.
And I was like, I'm going to call.I'm going to call.I'm going to get.And then I went on and talked, basically told the story that I've told you.And then we hit it off.We became friends, briefly lovers.That didn't work out.
But we were better as friends and also as collaborators because we both love performing community-based things.
So the Cougar Crusade came up as a name, like we were brainstorming on a whiteboard, and then we were like Cougar Crusade, then we were like Cougar Cuisine, Cougar, oh my gosh, Cougar Cookout, like Cougar Off the Couch, like all sorts of things, like Cougar Crafting, like Cougars should have everything.
And the Cougar Crusade for me is not just about older women meeting younger men for pleasure, but it's about taking that energy and doing whatever status quo says we're not allowed to do.Gotcha.And a big part of that is taking up space online.
And in particular, TikTok is a very youthful app, maybe less so now.I feel like it's, I mean, there's something for everybody on that, but I like, what could that look like?And I was like, I want to be on it.
And right when I met him, I was dancing in, um, on TikTok, like doing these like workouts and, Within three weeks, I was shadow banned.And I went from like thousands of people in my room to two, four, you know?So that was very discouraging.
And it was around the time I met Jacob.So I was like, OK, how can I be on TikTok and communicate with my peers, which are coolers, because I do like the younger gentlemen.And they seem to like me, certainly in cam.So that's what it is.
We were starting to do these events.We had a really huge one planned for next week.Unfortunately, the Hurricane Beryl in Houston has made us really sad.We're really sad.The organizer was another viewer.
She was organizing this because she wanted to give back to the community.We're going to do self-care.We're going for spa treatments.And Jacob was our special guest, like the TikTok special guest.
do photography as well as show his tips and tricks for lighting, because a lot of women want to get online.And then just learning a little bit of lighting, all of a sudden, you look fantastic, and then you feel fantastic.
And then you're, yeah, it's on hold now.It's really sad.And it literally happened within three or four days.We had to call it.We had to call it.And so I don't know when and how that will but I love the idea.
Oh, because the other thing is we were going to have a gala dinner with men serving us.Oh, I like it.We're getting like the, the sexy men of, um, what are they?Oh my gosh.The thunder down under guys.Yes.
But there's a special group that are out of Houston.And so they were going to do that and they were going to do a show for us.So I was like, I was going to come with my singles on ones.
Um, but I love the idea of like hunks serving up a nice dinner and, It was just a way to be kind of a little playful and flirty, safe, because we organized it and people could dress up because a lot of people.Right.I love to dress up.Yeah.
So I wanted to invite you, too.I was like, oh, we need like if we were going to expand, I wanted to invite other like empowered women to also speak to their experiences, because a lot of them like us have one chapter of life.
We're doing this career, and now they're going on to another career.Or main this kind of relationship, that relationship.There is an incredible thing that happens for women in their 40s and 50s, which is next chapter.Next chapter's happening.
Absolutely.Yeah.I totally agree.
They don't all have to be like us and go full OF.But there's so many other options and ways to be
It's so funny because you mentioned that.My brain is already like, oh my gosh, I could talk about this.I could talk about that.Because I mean, I have a lot of life experience.Some of it wasn't always great.
Exactly.And especially if it's people who have grown children and they're trying to find an identity now that they are adult with an adult.That's a huge transition.We hear about it.
For the ones who do like dating younger, a lot of their friends are very judgmental and they lose... And we have to bond together.And then the ones who are like, not for me, but you go, you do it, I love this.
And some people are happily married and they just like to look a little eye candy and that's like a fun way or have some flirty banter, little things like that.
My dream goal, and it just hasn't happened, which is more to transform these women into actual clients of viewers, paying consumers and feel ashamed to go and enjoy a cam show and enjoy visual entertainment.I would love that.
But they need the permission.They need to be a little bit trained. Sometimes women are a little bit smarter with their money and don't want to put their credit card online, but we can go this site.Good.This one is safe.This is safe.Don't go.
Don't don't give.Because unfortunately, a lot of them have been catfished as well.Sure.By people who. really catfished by guys on TikTok.So I see it all the time.
I see it in the news, you know, or or, you know, Dateline or something where women in their 50s, you know, lonely, not sure exactly of their identity, you know, inside them.Some guy on Facebook messages them.
And, you know, there's always a pilot living in Ireland.They use the same photos, the same stories. Yeah, it all of a sudden needs money.They have no money for their surgery.Yes money somewhere else.
Please send me Apple gift cards.
I know But yeah, you hear about all the time.I just saw one the other day where, you know, this woman's adult children, or I think the woman actually unalived herself because she was in so much debt from being scammed.
And these were the adult daughters talking about like, how did this happen?You know?
So the community that was built around Jacob's show, ends up sort of watching, you know, and, and sharing those stories.
So you can, if you didn't, one person is brave enough to go, I was catfished, then they get to message each other and get to know each other.
Yeah.That's cool.That is so cool.You guys really have built a community because I follow, you know, I follow it close, closely pop into his life sometime.And, uh, yeah, you have really built.Yeah.
We've definitely had a roller coaster because, uh, of experiences just like, um, Some people want a little bit more from him than is reasonable.And they read between lines that they read something that's not there.
And so we've had some backlash, which has been really fascinating.Backlash also has gone towards me, which has been bizarre.The things I've been accused of, that I'm his pup.He's my puppet.
Let me, you've met him, that dude, I'm not his puppet.Yeah, I was gonna say, he has a very strong personality.I can't imagine him, you know, being walked over or controlled in any way, shape or form.
I would totally get him on OF if he listened to me, but he's like, and he doesn't even need to show it all, but I was like, go to OF so you can have very clear exchanges and charge for that. And he's like, I just like doing my lives.
I like doing my lives.And that's better.It's better that he does what he wants.
Performers come to us right and and you know what they say if you take like your hobby and make it a business Then you end up hating it, you know, right or resenting it or burned out So yeah, and I just was talking to someone when I did a different episode the other day about If it's not fun anymore Then it's you know time to get out.
That's what happened with me.Like it was just so hard in the late, like 2008, it was really, really difficult.And it's not that I was used to it being easy, but things were changing so much.
It was a transition period.
Yes.And the way in which I made content then was very much, this is me, enjoy it or go, like take it or leave it.And the fan base was just observing me.Now,
And I tried to do camming in the private world, like private camming then, and I was not good at it at all because it was a little more like a strip club in that you have to, like there's a selling, you have to sell and you have to read someone.
This is what they want.Yes, I offer that.No, I don't.Okay, let's see if there's something in the middle.It's a very lively thing. I wasn't ready for it.Later I became, now I'm good at that.
And also within my boundaries, within the terms of service, I'm very good at following those.And now I love, love private camping.
So, well, that segues right into my next question is, You obviously are shooting, right, collabs and content trades.So kind of talk about that.I saw you shot for a studio, at least one.
I try.I'm going to get a little... I try.I'm finding it really challenging.That was easy back then because there were so few of us.We would just communicate so easily.There was like 150 people doing this.
And then maybe some very smaller creators who were trying.So 150 people, we can figure it out.Yeah, there's thousands upon thousands. And so like figuring out who's who, where, where, and how.Also the amount of testing.
So back then it was more like swinger protocol testing where we got tested and we used condoms.We just tested in condom.Now condoms aren't a thing.So you absolutely have to do the testing and they have to be two weeks fresh.
Really hard to get in Canada.Very few options.So I, it is, it is, I would work more and collaborate more if I could, but within logistics and then finding the right people who want to.
Just because we've broadened how many people means there's also more troublesome, difficult, dangerous people.Like there's some people who are just trouble and then there's some people who are dangerous.
And I, you know, who to believe, what to believe.And so it's a little tricky.And so I'm just dabbling. The studio scene was for Wasteland.So I've known Wasteland since 99 because I did a photo shoot with them in Montreal.
And so I've known Colin and Angie since then.We've kept in touch throughout the years and bumped into each other.And so that was part of the reason it happened.And then I'm part of a cam studio called Treasure Cams.
which is a virtual studio, and they offer support, and it's run by Bella Vendetta, who is a very experienced cam performer, as well as a professional porn performer, now retired from that.
So she directed, she put together this scene between me and another treasure cam performer, the Lady Katrina.So that's my first studio, really official studio.
We did the COVID test, and we were doing the thing, and everything was hygienic, you know what I mean? We were having, it was supposed to be cool.It was not, but like really professionally run set.And, but the scene was catered to the kinks.
Like it was all, it was so collaborative between Wasteland, the director, the producer, the performer.It was great.
I'm so happy.Is Treasure Cam a white label for a site?I think it was, but it is a studio.
So there's a lot of support. because it is, um, uh, it's not just a cut for the promotion, um, and the traffic.It also is, uh, resources of all the lots of, you know, little known secrets, I suppose.
Um, for how to, you know, and, and she caters to like you, like she'll look at you and go, okay, what do you like to do?Okay.This is what I see for you.Yeah.Okay.There's a lot of personalized attention.You get as much as you give, but,
Uh, she gives like the, the onboarding process is really great.And I knew her from like the.All site worlds.And when I was ready to cam, I was like, I don't, I tried a little bit on my own and I was like, I don't know what I'm doing.
So, um, we got me really quite doing quite well.And then I was, I was, I was sick.I would, um, I had cancer, so, uh, couldn't really care so much. Um, right.And now I've been like slowly coming back from that.It's taken me a long time to get back.
And I'm finally, I'm like, you can tell I'm hyper today.I am feeling so good.That's awesome.Like when you saw me in January and then in May, I still hadn't had full diagnosis.I had, um, yeah, of, of like why I was feeling so bad.
I was so out of it and now everything's, yeah.
Perfect, my next question was, tell us about, besides the Cougar Crusade stuff, for you in this business, do you have any big projects coming up, releases, are you working on something?
Right now, I'm just trying to get back to my full-time, my version of full-time hours, which is about 20 hours a week, camming.I really wanna get, that's my summer goal.And then after that, a lot of my goals are really, production oriented.
They're not output so much as getting everything back in place and improving sort of my marketing side, the affiliates.I have some affiliate opportunities, which means I have to have like nice content packages to give them.
And I feel like once that takes off and other people are promoting me, that's going to be really nice.I already have a little bit of that going on, but now I want to bring it to the next level.So it's getting the affiliate side of things going.
I don't know that I want to travel so much.It didn't quite pay off the way I thought it would.I did have a wonderful time.I had a great time shooting with you.I did a very small little trip to Las Vegas.
fun, independent collaborations, and I shot with Queer Crush.Yes, yes.So I highly recommend anyone who is bi or lesbian.That was another, that has not been released, so I don't know when that is coming out.
That'll be really exciting because it's been a bit, it's been since February.
I know, I feel like it was not too long after I visited LA.It was February, yeah.But they, I, you know, they,
The scenes are, you know, they're multi, they have an interview component, they have the behind the scenes, they have photos.So I think it's a lot of, there is, you know, production.It's a non-directed scene.It's just going for it.
And it was really interesting because I just met that woman.All of a sudden her name is escaping me.Oh my gosh.I'm picturing her.Oh my God.I'm having like a menopause moment. In any case, I'll send it to you so we can add it because worth it.
Yeah, but it was really just really fun to do that.So I'm glad I did that.I shot with my youngest, the youngest woman I've ever shot with there.And that scene was, she's 24 and I'm 53.
And it was very, we could feel our age difference, but it turned out to be a really hot, real sexy scene.But she told her girlfriend that I definitely text like a Gen Xer. Oh, nice.I thought that was adorable.I don't know exactly what that means.
Probably means dot, dot, dot.
Or instead of spelling out your, you do the you are.
I use actual sentences.Yeah.
Yeah.Yeah.There you go.Well, awesome.So we've got some scenes coming out.Coming out, but nothing.
I mean, there are, I would like to collaborate more.Um, it's, it's about finding, yeah, that, an opportunity where I don't spend so much on the travel.Because traveling from Canada is quite pricey.Travel is for lack of desire.
No, travel's expensive.I mean, last year, we slash I traveled a lot.This year, we had to cut out Exoticas.
It's like the ROI for Exotica is just not there because we're on the, you know, as far as West Coast as you can get in Portland, there is nothing on the Western United States.Like, I feel like all the stuff is on the East Coast.Yeah.
That's the issue as well.It's like, if I get over there and then, um, with the flights, but it's not for, so the fans want this for me.I know they want this for me.Um, however, and I want it for me too.They want a lot of group scenes too.
And group scenes are not as easy as to put together as they used to be.Um, right.
So there's a lot of coordination.
So it's not because I'm not like wanting it.
Uh, or, but it is, it is an issue of travel and cost.And if I, when I put the money at land, like I try to crowdfund it, then they look at it and go, no, no.I'm like, well, right.It's not a magic.
Um, you know, I can't just, we have no transporters yet.
Yeah, no, it's gotten very expensive.Um, definitely. you know, analyzed travel a lot over the past year.And I tend to be going to L.A.You know, I do.I feel like every month or month and a half.
And for the return on investment, that's where I get the biggest bang.
There you go.You find that you find the spots.There's some people in Montreal and I'd like to explore the Montreal scene, which is only a two hour drive from me.So I shot with one young man there who was lovely.
lovely and he's like punky and anarchist, but the sweetest, gentlest, like, and it was so like, it was really hot content.I remember going like, I was really, I was so happy.Like, and I was like, so happy that that's still available to me.
I get sometimes worried, like either am I too jaded or like someone who will understand that I, I don't want to fake it.I don't want, I don't want to go through the motions either.So he was like, he found it like, and I was just like, that's good.
Taught him or, you know, no, he has an already knew it.
He's he, I think he's a bit, he's like the right kind of SLUT, you know, I like it.
Well, where can people find you?Let's do your shout out.I'm working on a little portal site, so it is very safe for work.
It's got some, some pretty pics, um, therealsesca.com.And then you can find all my links through there.I am on X, I'm on IG, um, TikTok under therealsesca as well.It's kind of a play on name.
I needed a longer username when I started camming cause sesca is five characters and they wouldn't accept five characters.And people have used my pictures to catfish before.
And like in really long-term ways, someone dated me for two years, online dated me.I was like, that was not me.I was like video call, dude, video call if you think it's me.So that's a little play on that.
And also I look different because I'm 53, I'm not 27 anymore.
And you have, I told you this, I think when we shot, you have the most beautiful head of gray hair.Thank you. Thank you.I keep telling my hairdresser.
She was being a little, she's getting a little dry, but you have nice short hair.You can do the same thing.It'll always be healthy.Yeah.
Well, I dye mine every month, so it's not that healthy, but yeah, I remember saying to you, like you have the most beautiful gray hair.Oh, thank you.Thank you.If I can get mine silver, I'll quit dying it red.
you can always go back.I do have dreams where I color my hair and I go, who is that?But I won't be going back.I'm on this for... I'm going to keep it.
Well, I appreciate you taking the time to be on the show.It's fun just to chat.
Thank you.Thank you.I've been trying to look at the camera to make that contact, but I keep wanting to look at your face.I just want you to know, I love looking at you. And hey, I think we still have one or two clips to release.
I know, I was like, oh, after our conversation, we'll have to do that.You're hearing a little meow meow.He's at the door.That's cute.
Well, thanks again, Saskia.And it was just such a fun pleasure to have you on the show.
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