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All right, man, we back.Another wonderful episode of Club 520 Podcast.I'm the host, my name is DJ Wells.Special, special guests in the building.To my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last one.
To my far left, we got my dog, Bishop B hitting out the pearlies.How you doing, Nasty?Cool, Nasty, let's get to it.I know you always keep your feet proper.Now, he's showing out today.We in the A, you know what I'm saying?
He ain't playing with him today, but normally he in the Black Forces with the white laces.Oh, yeah.I know what you're saying.You from PAT.Yeah.When you see the Black Forces down there, what that mean?
We don't really do the black forces as the bad thug niggas and the white forces as the pretty boys.We don't do that.It's either in you or it's not, you know what I'm saying, regardless of what you got on.
But the forces wasn't as big as Airmax, where I'm from.We used to wear the Airmax.Okay, 95s?Yeah, 95s.That was big.The forces wasn't as big coming up in PA.
Okay, okay. The all black 95s though, is that straight?
Any color, yeah.Especially them red ones.Yeah, facts.Turn me up.To my right, my dawg, Young Nacho, Young Teeq.How you up, man?I'm chilling, bro.Hype, man.
We got somebody in here that's kind of like an inspiration to us.He started the pod, they got the pod started, they rolling.Got their whole, they taking over everything.All the smoke productions everywhere.
So it's hype to have somebody in here that we kind of look up to in the podcast game.
With Joe and Gilly and all those two, so. It's going to be a good show for us.For sure, man.Listen, you know, as a Patriots fan, I'm locked in.Been waiting for this episode, man.For sure.
With some nap time boys.Yes, sir.I can't wait till we get to it.Come on, man.We got NBA chip, like you said, all the smoke that him and Max showed away for this podcast game, man.We got Stack Jack in the building.
Stevie Jackson, appreciate you putting on this big dog.
Bro, thank y'all for having me, man.And give y'all y'all flowers, too.Y'all created a nice show and made a lot of way in a short time.Appreciate it.
Every time I look on social media, I see someone from y'all show trending, so that mean y'all doing something right.So, man, I'm honored to be on y'all show, man.Definitely honored.
Man, appreciate you to have, like you said, man, I love by broadcasting, man, especially in the sports situation, like all the smoke, knuckleheads, like y'all was the ones right there, you know what I'm saying, to help pave the way for us to be in the situation, man, so shout out to y'all, man, for being trailblazers in it, man.
We gotta start off with a question, man.Like, you know what I'm saying, we talking about The Force, you a Jordan Brand athlete, what's your favorite shoe?Cheers, baby, for some, salute, salute.
I'm a threes and fours guy.You rockin' with threes and fours?Yeah, threes and fours is my shit.You know, they... It's just the most comfortable one.And actually, you know, that's what I played in.I played in threes and fours, so that's just my go-to.
I rock the ones now, because that's the shoe they send us the most.We have every one.You know, they might not send all the fly shit, but they gonna send you every Jordan one.You know what I'm saying?But for the most part, threes and fours.
For sure.We know you was hooping in the Prodigy, then you got to the Jordan.
I don't want to look at you yet.
I don't want to look at you.Protégé, my man?I played no shit.I played no shit.Let me tell you about the protégé.Shout out Al.Shout out to Al.And don't shout out Al at the same time.Because he the reason I had no shit.
Bro, every quarter of the game, if you want to know what moves I made on the court, all you had to do was look, because the black shit from the shoes was all over the court, bro.Then, each quarter, I'm tearing a hole in each pair of dog.
I played in those shoes for like six months.After that, I had bone spurs in my foot for three years. Fuckin' with them protege trying to be loyal to my homeboy.Now, we made a little bread off of it, but it was not worth it, bro.
I'm telling you, it wasn't worth it.Let's go through the crazy shoe rankings.We gonna put in the protege's.We definitely got to put in the Starberry's.They made by the same people.Oh, so yeah, y'all didn't know that, huh?No, no, no.
He gave the plug to Al, Al was like, Zac, I think we can do it too.Fuck it, let's try it.
Hey, and it didn't work.That's how the dope game works and shit.I ain't no songwriter with the plug, though.That changed a lot now.
But Step made some good money, and he's still making good money.He just started Xavier 3's for his son in China, too.And they doing pretty good as well.Shout out to Step.
Man, shout out to them.That's crazy.We was talking about the triple Bs, that nobody got they shoes.Are you still waiting on them?
Yeah, I'm still waiting on my triple Bs.The ball, man.Yeah, yeah, yeah.They shits was way better than them protege.I'm sorry.Nothing was worse than them protege, dog.Unless you wearing some Skechers out there.For real.But they wearing Skechers now.
He was trying to get a deal with them.They wouldn't lock in.They wouldn't lock in with me.They got Joel Embiid, though.They straight.
Ain't no niggas with anything, nah, they paying.Yeah, they paying.
Niggas put some Pro Wings on around here, bitch.For a stack, it is a stack, put some Pro Wings on.Nah, nigga, it's true, man.We talked about going viral.And one time I said something about Michael Jackson.Everybody killed me.
I said, Drake sings just as good as Michael Jackson.Something like that.That ain't what I meant.It was a long night.
It was.It was a long week.It was a long night.So it came out wrong, though.But you was on, like, you went crazy.You like, man, this nigga crazy.Nigga say anything, man.Then you had Kool and Dre went crazy.
He DM'd me Michael Jackson songs for, like, a whole day.I'm like, bro, I was just drunk, bro.Like, I don't know. Hey, you know what?
It's funny because, it's funny, and I do remember that now, but it's funny because people do really compare Chris Brown and Drake to Michael Jackson, as far as stardom.You know what I'm saying?
Now, I would say this, Chris Brown is by far the closest thing to Michael Jackson.Absolutely.You know what I'm saying?And if you had to have a Michael in hip hop?Yeah. I was wildin'.I always admit I was wildin'.
It would be Drake!It would be Drake!It would be Drake!I'll step in now.See, see, you just talkin' about stardom.Right.That liquor was kickin' his ass.He's talkin' about vocally. Absolutely.What?
I didn't want you to tap back in, but you tapped back in, but y'all, y'all went in.You, Dre, shout out to Kool and Dre.I'm big on music, roll up music too, but I'm tapped in with y'all.You know what I mean?
Background and body at work, but they said something and then you was right under it and it just- It went crazy.Y'all made my nigga DMs go crazy.I was just tripping.I was just like-
So Kool and Dre sent me the acapella voices and everything.
I'm just tipsy, bro.We just talking shit, bro.
That wasn't even supposed to go nothing.That was not real.
If you had to pick somebody that could be close to Mike Voekely, who would you pick?Male or female?For me, there's only one female that I could think that's closer to Mike Voekely.You gonna say Whitney Houston?That's it.
Yeah. That's it, bro.We locked in.
Eric, we had Joe Budden on the podcast.He said, hey, you don't mention music no more.Like, you done.So I'ma just be done.I'ma be done.Shout out, Drake.Shout out, Mike.
What make it so funny is, you know what I'm saying, we from Indiana.So for you to make that type with the 219, they was hot.Oh, yeah.Everybody was chill.Who was the biggest rapper from Indiana? Gibbs so far.Pretty Gibbs?
He dropped a new product too as far as who shot the Gibbs.
I want to go back to the, you know what I mean, to the beginning.Poor Arthur.
Who put the pill in your hands?
Like, when you pick it up and find the love for it?So, I grew up in Port Arthur, Texas, a small town.All my family worked in refineries.So, I grew up on the west side.All my uncles, my cousins, they all played basketball.
And in Texas, you know, football is big on Fridays.But when football is over, it's that same energy transfer to basketball.So, on Friday nights growing up, there was one high school that we all went to.It's called Lincoln High School.
Everybody have a Lincoln High School. And they used to win state championships and grow up.So growing up, I used to watch them and go watch them play.So it just, I inherited from my uncles and cousins.
But at five years old, that's when I, they all knew I was good.I had 42 points.I had 40 points in the 42 point game.And yeah, I was five years old.
I'm about to say how many assists, but never mind.I didn't know what assists was back then.
Five years old, 40 points.When we had 42, another kid that I used to hang with, he scored on the other two.And after that game, I started getting treated different.You know what I'm saying?By our coaches, by my uncles, by everybody.
And I didn't know, I had it at the time, I just thought I was just taller and I was more athletic, but that's when it started.
Damn, my memory kicking in a little bit.95, did y'all wanna, you led them to the chip at Lincoln, right?
High School State Championship, yeah.
Yeah, that was your... Junior year, that was my junior year.Oh, okay, how was that?Oh, and another question, though. I want you to talk about that.But is there any other pros that come from Lincoln?
No.So BJ Tyler had a two-year stint.He ended up going to Texas.Yeah, and he had a two-year stint.But nobody, the crazy part about it is, it's a town that's 15 minutes away called Beaumont, Texas.And the high school coach I had,
that the year we won a state championship, ended up getting another kid that ended up going out of high school as well and winning the state championship as well, Kendrick Perkins.So we got the same high school coach.
Yeah, we got the same high school coach.
We talking about Kendrick dribbling down the street.
When he was 16, 15, it was that big, but he was getting it off the rim and bringing it up.Like, he had all that.Before he got to Boston, he had all that, bro.
No, I remember him with the Oakland Soldier, him and Bron linked up at AAU.Like, nah, he went to the league short of the hospital.Getting the bruise is hard.Yeah, you gotta be nice.
So you just hooked with your guys at Lincoln when y'all wanted to chip?
Yeah, like, we had, the guys I played with, we've been knowing each other from elementary all the way to high school.So leaving them my senior year was something I didn't want to do. What made Coach Smith come grab you?Well, Josh Passler.
He ended up being the coach for Memphis and Georgia Tech.He was my AAU coach.He was the same major as actually the coach.I was gonna say, that's crazy.Yeah, he was our coach.Like, bro, he drove to my hometown.Let me tell you, I met Josh.
So, I was killing in Texas basketball, but I wasn't ranked too high. So he drove to my hometown in the middle of the ghetto during the daytime, where it's crack being sold, niggas smoking, all kinds of shit.He pulls up by himself.
I automatically think, it's the police.Like, who he looking for?And he calls my name.So I'm like, man, I don't know you.Don't put me on blast in front of the homies.You know what I'm saying?And he was like, nah, my name is Josh Passman.
I go to Kingwood.I have my own AAU.I'm like, how old are you, bro?He's like, I'm 17. Told me he had his AAU team, wanted me to come play on his team.I'm like, bro, I ain't got no money, I ain't got no car, I can't get to Houston.
He drove, bro, three times a week from Houston, which is all I wouldn't have, picking me up.I would have back to practice, and I wouldn't have back, then I wouldn't have back to go to school the next day.
He did this shit three times a week just so I can have a chance to play AAU basketball.And his dad had a relationship with, he worked for Red Cross, he was a big wig in the Red Cross. And he had a relationship with Steve Smith.
So he started coming to AAU games.And I remember trying out, this was the school year from the start, and I'm on the football field, trying out for football.I'm running routes, got the pads on.I ain't think about basketball yet.
My mom, my coach, and my uncle come around the corner.I'm like, oh shit, this can't be good.Like, take this shit off. You going to Oak Hill."I'm like, going to Oak Hill?We can go back-to-back.They're like, nah, your ass stay here, you going to jail.
You know what I'm saying?Because I stayed in trouble.I stayed in trouble around that time.So I didn't see what they was doing for me at the time.You know what I'm saying?I was hard-headed.I wanted to be home with my friends.
And sending me to Oak Hill was the best thing that ever happened to me.
That's crazy.And we just had us move on.He know.He know.We had a little bit of this conversation.Who your top five?So who your starting five, you take from Oak Hill?
Brandon Jennings.Okay.B.J.at the one.Rondo.I'm sorry, I gotta go small.B.J., Rondo, because they was just that good when they was there.We talking about Ed O'Hill.Yep.Yes, sir.Melo. Josh and KD.It's tough.That's crazy fire.
I gotta give you and Ty though.
Ty Loss was the problem too.
Nasty bro.Tripped up monster.Shout out to my nigga Ty.
And his squad is kept, he don't get spunked on up, but Nolan was killing out there too.Nolan was getting tuned out there.
Nolan is a winner.You know what I'm saying?Nolan is a winner.Shout out, Nolan is a winner.Even that Duke, he brought that winning feel.Nolan's just a winner, bro.He was solid.For sure.We gotta talk about it, man.
One of our favorite OGs, Mike Bibby.
That's my real brother.That was his vet.
Here in Atlanta?When I first got my rookie year, he was- Burned out, ain't he? Oh, my God.All of our favorite people in the world, bro.Bro, let me tell you how close me and Mike is.My wife talked about it not too recently.I ended up getting married.
I ended up calling the wedding off right at the point where I was getting ready to start, because my fiancée at the time was signing the prenup.And I was hurt at the time, to be honest.I was crying afterwards.I was hurt, because all this stuff.
My family was there.It was just a lot on me.Mike's mom came and wiped snot from my nose. and my friends would bow hands and tell him I became a man.That's when I knew she really loved me.
But his momma to do that to me, that let y'all know how tight we are.His momma was really the reason why I made it to the NBA.That's real.
That's hard, bro.How did y'all even link up, though?
High school, we both signed with Arizona. So we had the number of recruiting class that year.And the first semester, I actually stayed with them on campus because I couldn't pass the test.I wasn't even going actually to take it.
I was just like, they're going to have to just give me the grade or something.And I took the test a couple times and still couldn't pass it.Where I end up, after the first semester, they had to kick me off campus.
So here's my my mom had got together like he can't come back to put on like that that ain't it like so she Mike mama Let me stay with her and I worked out with his older brother day and it was taking me to work out every day and one morning She woke me up.
It's like get your shoes and Dane wasn't there.So I'm like, well, we're going so I just get your shoes and We in the car.She ended up driving me to the Phoenix Suns arena where they play it now and we walked I'm looking at her like
Cause when we drive in, like she didn't have to say her name to, you know, normally you gotta have a pass up.She just waved at him like, you gotta pull like that around this mall parking lot?Yeah.
So we come down and pull and she had already talked to Danny Ainge to bring me down to the plate pickup. And Jason Kidd immediately embraced me.He ended up picking me on his team.That's when I was young, so I was catching lives and all kinds of shit.
I was going crazy in there.Off high, I was high and all that, going crazy.I was raw.And after I played, Danny Ainge told me that they had one pick in the draft, the second to the last pick, but the roster was full.
But they like, you know, you played well up to date, that we gonna draft you and guarantee you $250,000, but we gonna send you to CBA.Nigga, I was drafted in my mind, I'm in the league.
$250,000, all that, nigga, that's good, let's go.You know what I'm saying?But once you get in the dough, you know this, T, JT, once you get in the dough, you good.And I got drafted, I bounced overseas, but my name was in that system.
You know what I'm saying?For getting drafted, and that's all I needed.And I owe that all to Mike, to Mike's mom.
Nah, that's dope, bro.I didn't know Danny Angel was there.Was Cedric Sabala there, too?That's one of the people I fried.
He don't like to talk about it, because he keeps saying we was on the same team or something like that.Nah, that's cap.Man, but I fried, put it like this.
My fault, Ced.No, no, put it like this.
Ced, if I didn't fry Ced, I fried everybody else that was back there.
My bad, Ced.Yeah, I was wrong.
You playing with your own big lie, baby.That's my dog.That's my dog.
I had a great day that day.I was young and hungry.I had a great day that day, bro.Nah, that's hard, bro.A great day.
How was that overseas stint, though?Like, where'd you go first?
I went to Venezuela first.Damn.Tell you about my first day in Venezuela, which is crazy.I get there, I automatically then go, because, you know, I never been out the country.I've been there for a small time.
You go on to Venezuela, fresh out of high school, play basketball.Like, my mom was terrified.I get there the first day, they pick me up, and they taking me straight to practice.And it's like a bridge, probably like a mile ahead of us.
So now when we get to, we come around the corner, the bridge is traffic, so everybody going slow.So he trying to figure out why is there traffic.
When we get to under bridge, it's a 14-year-old, little small kid, about 14, 15 years old, laying on the ground here, just jumped off the bridge.That's my first day there.So I'm looking out the window, seeing a dead body.My first day in Venezuela.
I'm like, I can't take, I'm not finna take this shit.I can't, you know what I'm saying?Call my mama, my mama G. I'm like, mama, as soon as I tell her everything I see, I'm like, I ain't gonna be able to do this.
She's like, so what you gonna come back home and do? You ain't finna be in my house.So I'm like, damn, I can't.I can't.I was, bro.
Hey, bro, to be honest, I OD'd or served at the age of 17 twice.Damn, bro.Before I got to me.So I needed a lot of change, you know what I'm saying?
That's why I credit so many people, you know what I'm saying, in my life, because if I didn't have all these people, I wouldn't be here right now.That's real.That's a real story right there.
So when you actually got on the court, that shit was crazy.How was that though?
And Venezuela was cool because, you know... I was playing basketball and I was making money.I wasn't making much, you know what I'm saying?I wasn't with my wife then, but I made $30,000.
The women were so beautiful in Venezuela, I left all my money there with them.I'm just keeping it real, though.I had never been out of the country.
And you take a little ghetto nigga from Puerto Rico and bring him to Venezuela where they breed Miss Americas?You know what I'm saying?I lost it.I'm gonna keep focusing.I lost it.I probably came back with like $8, $10. I live it all there.
You know what I'm saying?They say a brick of weed has seeds in it.It was like $200.So I was getting the chick that I had.I had her give me a pack of Newports, a box, put all the cigarette, the tobacco out, and stuffed the weed in all of them.
So I had packed some cigarettes, but it was all weed.So I was enjoying myself out there, bro.I was 18, 19.I didn't know what to do.I wasn't thinking about saving no money and going home, nothing like that, bro.It was a great experience, but
My mind still was like, if I'm having fun here, imagine what I'm gonna have when I get to the league, bro.You know what I'm saying?If I can enjoy this, I can enjoy anything.Nah, that's how I feel.
When I first went to Miami, I said, yeah, I ain't going back to nothing.I buried a Latina.I went out with Bivy, Team Dog, Fat Joe.I said, oh Lord.
I said, oh Lord.I like this style.
How long did you stay over there though?No, just overseas.
So I've been in Venezuela for six months.I played two years in Dominican Republic, won a championship there.Played in Australia, broke my foot in Australia.And I played in Cholet, France for like two weeks.I couldn't stand it because of the smell.
And they just wasn't taking care of themselves.You know what I'm saying?Like the gym, all that stuff, like it wasn't something I wanted to be a part of.
How was that transition from, you know, The overseas world, now you... I don't want to mess it up.I think you went to New Jersey first.So you went straight to New Jersey.How was that transition?
Well, for me, I broke both of my feet.The second time I broke my foot, it was the last day of cuts for the Bulls.And I made the team.I went from not having the penny on, The little penny jerseys?To the last day, I got on the purple.I mean, the red.
Like, you know what I'm saying?I'm with the starters.So if you're with the starters last day, when they got two people making a team, you basically know you're making a team.Yeah, you know what I'm saying?Broke my foot the day of the last cuts.
Going for a leg.Broke my foot.Called my mama.Again, I'm like, but this time I was crying like a little bitch.I'm talking about balling. Maybe this ain't it.You know what I'm saying?I broke both of my feet.I'm going through all this shit.
Maybe I gotta do something else.And there wasn't nothing else for me to do because I wasn't smart.You know what I'm saying?I wasn't prepared to go to school and get a job and no shit like that.She's like, so what you going to do?
You're going to come home, you're going to heal up, and you're going to get back out there. You know what I'm saying?She wouldn't let me sit in that shit.You know what I'm saying?
She wouldn't let me sit in that shit, even though she was hurt too, because she seen it on me.Like, I was there though.
You know what I'm saying?
I was there, bro.I'm finna make the team.I'm here.All the hard work is over.I made it.And that shit happened the day of.And I was devastated for a while, bro.I ain't gonna lie.I stayed home.I didn't play basketball for like eight months.
Didn't do nothing.And I didn't think I'd ever play again.Crazy.
to being an NBA champion is damn near crazy, though.So what made you start hooping again?Obviously, you said your mom was pushing you, but like... Well, I got an opportunity to play summer league with Vancouver.
I got an opportunity to play... Mike came with the Vancouver. And I went out there with Mike, and I ended up playing summer league with them.And I was busting Shareef Abdur-Rahim ass.That's my boy.That's my boy.But I was hungry, bro.
You know what I'm saying?I was hungry.You know what I'm saying?I was hungry.And I was out there shining, shining, shining.Preseason shining.Practicing shining.And they cut me.I'm like, God damn!What I gotta do, bro?
I'm starting to learn the game too though.The political side of basketball.It ain't about how good you is.You know what I'm saying?You gotta fit in with the team and they want you to buy in.I wasn't buying in the shit at that time.
You know what I'm saying?I wasn't coachable or none of that.I was just raw.Give me the ball, get out the way.Let me compete against my man.You know what I'm saying?I didn't know how to run plays or none of that shit.
So they was right for, to be Kibby Parker, they was right for cutting me.Because I was just a raw basketball player.I didn't know how to play the game yet.You know what I'm saying?But as time passed,
I played in summer league with a couple other teams, and I ended up getting an invite to camp with New Jersey.And that's all because Steph, Stephon Marbury and Kenny Marbury.
I ended up going to the pre-camp, and I ended up playing with Steph and Kenny.Kenny got drafted number one that year.And they came and watched us practice, and they were like, bring him to camp.You know, Byron was asking, like, bring him to camp.
And me and Kenny, he Byron didn't know, but me and Kenny already knew each other from being from Texas. I think he's a year younger than me.And he had an injury going into that year.So he broke his foot.And still got drafted number one.
And that's why he wasn't practicing.But anyway, they got me in.And once I got in, everything worked out for me.You got the number one pick. and the starting point guard on your side.You know what I'm saying?It's kind of hard to go wrong.
Who showed you the ropes?What was that vet that grabbed you on the head?
It was stuff, bro.So, you know, me being from Texas, we used to have to starch down pants.Like, where them bitches can stand up.
He was out of pocket.Hold on, hold on, hold on.Stay flow.My shit kicking in now.You went to some workout, and did you work out with somebody in New York?
And the motherfucker said you was in the gym and, like, literally took your pants off, paused, and, like, set them up, and they really stood up like... Al Harrington.
So I'm getting ready to come to the draft.I knew Faze was drafting me, and they flew me out to New Jersey to work out in New Jersey gym with this guy named, I forgot his name, but he was working out at Al Hampton time.
This is my first time meeting Al, like 16, 17.This nigga's the biggest dude I ever seen in my life.I'm like, this nigga in high school? And we ended up working out together.He asked me to work out with him.
So I wasn't planning on working out, so I had on some jeans.I told y'all, I was gonna take some.My shit was starched down.I'm talking about, I pulled them bitches out and just stood them up.
I showed him to practice one day, and Steph was like, oh, no.Oh, no.That nigga Steph took me.This is a true story, dog.Yeah.Steph took me, bought me an Escalade.This is when the Escalades first came out.Bought me like 10 pairs of Timbs, baggy jeans.
He bought me the whole swag.He like, man, take that shit off.He made me take my jeans off and left.And they threw them in the trash.
Nigga, when I wear them on Sta-Flo jeans out here, I'm like, shit, that's a shit and take it, nigga.
Yeah, since we here, because nigga, I ain't gonna hang off front.I used to starch my shit too, though.Okay, let's go.Let's go.Real shit, though, my shit never stood there, no, no, no.How the fuck was you ironing them pants, nigga?
We put our shit in the cleaners.And you say, heavy starch.You want heavy starch.
When you put it in, you can see the iron print on them pants.You can see the iron. That's just how we did it in the South.With the Al-Macs.With the Al-Macs.
Back in the days, off the way from.When you had jeans on, you flipped that bottom.You flipped that bottom with the Al-Macs.
And then your pants too big, boys used to hit them with this one.
You used to do that once too!
Yeah, that was the one.Yeah, okay.I remember that story.Y'all got it, though.
That's a staple, old man.
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When you get to Jersey, you start playing, what's that year for you where it switched?
Because Steven Jackson, I don't know, I don't remember Jersey and stuff.I know you from Bobcats.I know you from Golden State, the Spurs and shit, but me, it was the Bobcats, because you was averaging 20, you was cooking.
But when was that year for you where it clicked?But see, that's the difference.You play the game, you know the game.I would agree with you, because that was my best years.That was my best years playing basketball.
But in Jersey, it clicked because when I got there, Byron wasn't fucking with me. And I ended up starting the first game of the season.I ended up starting.I ended up making the rookie all-star game.
I'm leading all rookies in scoring, even the number one pick that's on my team.I'm leading all-scoring, going into the rookie game.I come back from the rookie game, I don't play no more the rest of the season.Why you think that?I have no idea.
So for me, this is what I think.So Byron had a son. named Thomas Scott, that was the same age as me.And he was there around the time, so I hung with him.I was as young as him, so I hung with him a lot.And his wife basically treated me like a son.
So I don't know if he thought that I was hitting on his wife or something like that, but that's the only thing I could think of.Because the animosity that he showed to just stop playing me with no kind of excuse, you know what I'm saying?
Don't even talk to me about it.I thought it had to be personal. You know what I'm saying?And his wife was just, she was a mother to me because I was still young and she felt like I needed some guidance.And my mama appreciated it.
But I think he took it the wrong way.
Yeah.Yeah.Because I got a story about when we played, we played on the Bobcats.I'm going to let y'all get to that because you won a championship with the Spyros and you did your thing.So look, you know when you a rookie, you don't play.
I didn't play.So I'm talking shit at the end of the bench.So I just yell shit out.I can't remember who the point guard on y'all team was.I think it might have been Raymond Felton.
It was Raymond Felton.Bubba Love.He went to the basketball tournament.I was like, hell no.And he looked, he looked at the end of the bench.He went, shut your ass up.
But I'm laughing because now I got him pissed off, like, I'm getting under your skin.I can't play like that either.I can't play like, when I'm mad, I can't play like that.Shut your ass up.So I'm like, I'm gonna keep talking.
So next time he come to the sideline, I say something else.
Like, that shit off.He with us.You know, talking shit.But they started ignoring me and shit.So now I'm standing up, doing all the antics.I ain't playing, so I'm trying to entertain myself, really. So it gets to the last shot of the game, right?
This nigga, so he got the wall on the wing by our bench.So I'm like, Moe, it's Moe Evans.I'm like, Moe, lock that shit up, man.
It gets nothing.He jab, jab, one dribble, game, right?Hit the game winner. I think you ran on the stands.I jumped on the bandwagon.Yeah, yeah.He ran on the stands.I'm like, oh shit, he about to come for me.I ran to the back of the locker room.
I was like, I ain't about to watch this shit.
I come back out, and I was like, shut the fuck up.I was like, I ain't gonna say that, though.That was my only game win in my career, too.
I remember I ran to the back like, oh shit.
Moe came back there and said, shut the fuck up.I was like, I ain't going to say nothing.Who else was caught with you on that Bobcast?Joe Wild.
He ended up making an off.I think I should have made it because shit changed when I got there, but I was happy for him because that was really my part in the crime.Like I felt like I was back at Ron Artest. You know what I'm saying?
With Jarrell on that wing.And we arguing about who guarding him, you know what I'm saying?I love having another guy that's gonna compete on the wing like that.Playing with Ron was the best ever, bro.
Ron, I tell you, I would never have a teammate that can dominate on both ends of the court every night if he wanted to.You know what I'm saying?
Ron is somebody who I feel like, as a team, the only teammate that could've won MVP and defensive player of the year in the same year.
And we here with it.Listen, we all Naptown babies, man.You know what I'm saying?We was locked in on that patient stuff.Man, that day, that that happened, nobody could believe that shit happened.Not at all.
I couldn't even believe it either, bro, to be honest.That was our championship year, though.I ain't gonna lie.Thank you, bro.
We was smacking all four Pistons that year, bro.
They did not want to smoke nobody.
We were 14 and 5 at the time.
I played on the Pistons before, and that organization, everybody knew that was a year.Like, even when I came on the team, They didn't think we was winning no championship.
They thought we was having a good year.We was hurt, bro.
I was hurt for Ridgey, too.That was a year for us to win it.You know what I'm saying?That shit, that one little shit happened in five minutes, fucked up our whole season, bro.We was beating the shit out of them, too.Low out.
Y'all was cracking everybody. He was the shit out of everybody, dog.He was.I ain't gonna lie.
Those Pacers might never win a trip again.I mean, had an opportunity to get close like that.I mean, obviously, PG and them did.They went straight white after these things.That was the best team to me.
I know they went to the finals with Reggie and them, but the team we had?No, y'all was the best team.Y'all had killers.Y'all had killers.
But from top, from all the way around, though, from one, two, three, four, five, like Jeff Foster, Jermaine O'Neal, Ronald Tensley, me, Reggie Miller, Jamal Tensley. We had Scott Pyle on the sideline.We had Fred Jones.We had a mob, bro.
We had a solid mob.I didn't see nobody beating us in no seven game series at all.With a run of tension in his right mind?Nah, it wasn't happening.Nah, y'all, that was the year.
I just remember from that fight, because Fred Jones, he used to be in Indy a lot.He used to litter for a minute.I used to always mess with him.He would come hoop at the gym and shit when he had that broom.
I said, Fred, everybody else whooping ass, man, what the fuck you doing, Fred?I'm Fred.Hey, Fred weaved.Ben Brother ended up, if y'all look at the film, Ben Brother, because I think Ben has just lost somebody in their family for the game.
Ben Brother had ended up right behind Fred and tried to knock his head off.He turned into Peniel Williams. Fred got out of the way of all this shit.He didn't get hit.And it was a big boy.He throwing them big boy punches, too.
Like, he ain't moving on.Shout-out to my guy, Fred.And it's crazy, because if you look at the videos at the time, when they was panning to everything happening, everybody else was in the same emotion, but Fred was in the stands, ducking for his life.
My thing was, why even go out there?You know what I'm saying?To me, I really don't feel like we should've got suspended.Like, Ron, maybe.
But then again, if you think about it, okay, if we out at a restaurant and somebody throw a beer in your face, that's assault.You know what I'm saying?You can press charges on them.Not if you're a black athlete. Yeah, I got you.
Now, if you're a black actor, you can't, you know what I'm saying?We was at work, bro.You know what I'm saying?Anybody that was getting assaulted at work, they're not getting in trouble.Why were we getting in trouble?Because we defended ourselves.
Now, I have to say this, too.When you look at the tape, I got suspended 30 games, got fined $3 million, right? If you look at the tape, I ran up six rows, and I grabbed Ron.
If I was on some bullshit, I could've hit somebody on row one, two, three, four, five, six.I wasn't on it.I went up, and I grabbed Ron immediately.Look at the tape.As soon as I grab him, they throw another beer in his face.That's the dude I hit.
You know what I'm saying?So that's why I don't feel like... I shouldn't have got suspended for defending my teammate and being in the... You know what I'm saying?I didn't go... Now, if I went up there in the first row, hit a nigga.
Second row, hit a nigga.Like, okay, yeah. Kick his ass out the league.
I didn't do that.I ain't gonna lie, you became a legend in our neighborhood.For real, you and J.O.was my J.O.hit dude and he slipped.Bro, if he didn't slip, bro, he might've killed that nigga, bro.
And he still left on the stretcher.Yeah.The dude, J.O.slipped and the dude still left on the stretcher, bro.
I'm glad he didn't.I'm glad he didn't.Oh my God, dog.Can you imagine JL teeing up and lining somebody up?Man, what?He probably would've killed that dude.No, straight up, he would've been dead.
What play kicked that off, though?
I don't even remember what happened.So, Ron was wrong.
I'm at the free throw line.Look at the game.I'm at the free throw line.
I'm going to tell y'all some shit that a lot of people don't know.I'm at the free throw line.I'm shooting the free throw.All I hear is, you can get your foul back.And Jamal Tensley telling that to Ron.I'm like, man, what?No, we don't tell him that.
So I'm like, fuck it.I go, you know what?I thought ahead of him.Make the free throw.I ran back.Look at the tape.I ran back fast and guarded Ben just so Ron couldn't foul him. Guarding Ben, I'm just letting Ben go score with the time running out.
Go ahead, you know, I'm just playing token defense.I ain't filing, go score.Run, come from out of nowhere and file him hard.Boom.I'm like, ah.Ben turned around and got 10 times bigger than they just, started swelling up like they're incredible.
I'm like, ooh. Boom!I thought Ron's head came off.Damn.That nigga push Ron's shit back so fast, dog.I'm talking about God, I've never seen a nigga put his hands in somebody's face like that, dog.
And Ron just, you know, he tried to get himself together.I know he was kind of woozy, he had to be.He tried to get himself, we ended up breaking it up.But if Ron would've never came over and filed Ben, I was guarding him.
Top of the game, would've ran out, we'd have been out of there, you know what I'm saying?But Jamar says he told it.Bro, get your file back from last year, something in the finals that I had no, you know what I'm saying?I didn't know nothing about it.
And I ended up in that shit, and that's how all that shit started, dog.That shit should've never happened.That's crazy. Fuck, bro.That's crazy.
I want to talk about them Spurs teams, though, because you played, to me, with the best power forward to ever do this shit.
I agree with you on that.
How was that playing?I know it was a couple of fuck niggas on the team.You know what I'm saying?Man, if you don't want to, but.If you don't want to.Tell us to this nigga.I'm with you, I'm with you.I keep it focused.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You ain't gotta speak on them niggas.Fuck them.But how was that playing for Pac, bro?One of the greatest.
So I say this and people think I'm crazy, but Pac is not a great coach. Hold on, bro.
I respect.You know what I'm saying?See, if you look at the Spurs teams and look at all the coaches that come under Pop that's head coaching somewhere else.
Look at all the guys that came in the Spurs organization that was film guys, that's GMs and president of the team, Sam Preston, all these guys, right?All over the league.So Pop is a great leader.
When you play for the Spurs teams, when you look at the timeouts, Pop has a... When I was there, it was an offensive coach and a defensive coach.My offensive coach was Mike Budenhuser.He'd been coach of the year two years already.
Mike Brown, that was your guy.
Mike Budenhuser.Mike Brown in Sacramento.He was the defensive coach.So during timeouts, they meet, but Bud comes in when it's offense.No timeout. Mike comes in, that's why I say Pop is not a great coach, he's a great leader.
He leads the organization from the top with everybody from the gym, to the ball boys, to the camera guys, everybody's thinking championship or bust, right?
And you go to a lot of organizations where the leader of the organization doesn't have the power to have everybody buying into that.
That's why I say he's the best leader, because he can bring any coaches in there, make them look good, and send them off somewhere else where they head coaches.He got a guy that was a, the film guy when I was there.
He's the head coach of the Utah Jazz now.
You know what I'm saying?
So Pop, that's why I say he's a leader.He's not a great coach.He brings great coaches under him, but he's a great leader.And I don't think there's a better leader in the NBA.But my time there was a blessing because I learned how to be a professional.
I learned the NBA is more than just playing basketball.I learned how to prepare.You know what I'm saying?I learned how to be a man.Because Steve Smith, he showed me how to be a man, him and David Robson.
But not having Tim Duncan there, I don't think I ever would have played.I wouldn't have got an opportunity to be on the court.When I first got there, everybody don't know Tim is an action junkie.So he liked playing paintball.
He had a case full of guns.He'd do UFC training.He was one of those action type guys.He liked action. When I first got there, he needed somebody to go play paintball with him.Y'all know, that's right up my alley. That's the worst one ever, bro.
That let you know he didn't give a fuck, right?He liked to play paintball, so I showed up, you know, I showed up paintball with Dickies on.Chuck, he's like, bro, you can't, you gotta have on some comfortable shoes.
Like, this ain't, you know what I'm saying?We showing up, like, we finna do a drive-by.He's like, nah, this ain't it, bro.You gotta get elbow pads.So I used to go play with him.So training camp, this is a funny story, so...
We go play and I ain't scared of shit.I really ain't.Besides God, I ain't scared of no human.I ain't scared of nothing.That's just my problem.That's why I've probably been so much shit.
And the name of the game is, you gotta go grab the flag in the middle.So I'm like... Ain't nobody gonna go grab the flag.Y'all niggas scary.Fuck that."I dropped my gun.Hard-ass.So I just started playing.
So I didn't know they had masks that don't fog up.I'm not hip to that.I'm just right here trying to have fun on some ghetto shit.My mask fogged up.I got to run up the steps.Boom, boom, nigga shoot me. Nigga, I got it!
Nigga, I missed the last step, and my mask slide up.Boom!Nigga, blood everywhere, nigga.My mouth, I'm talking, my shit's so swole, nigga.There's blood everywhere.My tooth done went through my lip.All kind of shit, right?
So I slide my mask down, and I'm running down, trying to tell the niggas I hit my mouth.These niggas shoot, but I'm like... So look, they shoot me, and they think it's paint, but it's blood, and it took over all my whole shirt.So I'm like, man, stop!
You know what I'm saying?I'm bleeding for real, so we got to go to practice the next day.I'm in there with Tim, we livin' Waste Pop comin' out.What happened?This one, Tim, fuck with me.
Like when I was playing at the house with my homeboy, flat box, you know what I'm saying?Straight up lied.Tim thought I was finna say, you know what I'm saying?Straight up lied to Pop.Nigga, you know Pop knew I was lying.He knew that shit.
Ever since then, Tim vouched for me.During practice, I wasn't playing, I was on the prac squad.Put me on the first five with him a day.So Seattle, we're playing in Seattle one day.This be like 25 games until the season.
I'm coming off the bench, I'm averaging about 18 off the bench at the time.Yeah, I'm killing.Yeah, getting off the bench, you know what I'm saying?Playing probably like 25 minutes.And Pop called me, like, come to my room.I'm like, oh.
I get in this room, Tim in there.I'm like, yep. They know, they know, we're gonna start you tonight.Okay, you don't even think about it.
I don't even think about basketball, nigga.
I'm just gonna get kicked out of the team.We're gonna start you tonight.You know, you've been playing well, duh, duh, duh.I'm like, okay, cool.But that wasn't the piss that worked hardest part.I told y'all Steve Smith was my OG.
So I was taking his spot.So, you know, I walk in the locker room, I'm like, I walk by him, I don't even wanna speak to him.I'm like, this the OG, I don't know how he gonna feel.
And they can see like, hold up, nah, hey, you rooted for me, I'm rooting for you the same way.Like, he was a real, I was like, nah, don't do that.I'm rooting for you just the way you rooting.It ain't personal, you know what I'm saying?
I didn't understand that.I wasn't a professional then, you know what I'm saying?But for him to do that. It gave me the confidence to go out there and play.So shout out to Steve Smith.
But that's how I ended up really getting on the court and getting a chance to play was because of Tim, because Tim kept vouching for me.What year was that?This was, so this was 03.Yep.Bro, you won a chip.
And that finals was crazy.I remember you having one of the coldest in-and-outs ever.Like, I was aware who you was.
I booked Kenyon Martin.One of the hardest in-and-outs on the NFL I ever seen in my life.Oh my God.And I ain't, I'm just not, I'm not like TJ.I ain't the greatest handler.You know what I'm saying?
I can control my shit, but some shit'll come out of there now, man. Just off instinct, you know what I'm saying?Them niggas do that shit on purpose.You know what I'm saying?
My shit just came off instinct.I remember that.I was like, that was one of the hardest NL Cypher scenes of my life.That was crazy.
But man, like you said, we Neptown babies, and y'all was going crazy in the city at the same time the Coast was going crazy.How was that, the nightlife in the city?
Because the city ain't been the same since, but how was that energy in the city when the Coast was killing, y'all killing, and everybody was outside?
And J.O.had a club, so.And we actually had our own club. Every night.Oh man, shout out Edwin James.Shout out Edwin James, Matt McAfee, Bob Sanders.The whole nine.Who was the linebacker named?Who was the linebacker named?No, no, no, no.Dwight Freeney.
Gary Brackett?Gary wasn't there yet.His name started with an M. That was my dog today.We was all out together, bro. That's probably the only time that I've been in the city where there's a football team, and we hung together every night.
I didn't do that in no other city.Those two teams were basically like family, bro, because we supported each other.You know what I'm saying?I stayed right next door to Tony Dungy.The night I got hit by the car, that was the first person at my house.
When I got home from getting stitched up, he was the first person to knock on my door, Tony Dungy.So I think just the fact that a lot of the guys stayed in the same neighborhoods and we supported each other, it was just dope.
And then there was a lot of guys on their team that grew up like us. You know what I'm saying?Ed and James, they grew up from the struggle, too, so it was a great connection, bro.You ever hit Riverside on a Sunday?I sure did, bro.
We had a sheriff came to my house.
Jail had a sheriff come to my house and give all of his gun license.
After that, after the switchboard.Before the shootout.Yeah.That's why I felt like that.Nigga had a gun like that.Billy the Kid, nigga.That is untouchable.I'm finna get off.I'm finna get off.
And it was crazy, as a kid, that's how I grew up.Like, you would see Jamal, Tizzy, in the randomest places.Fresh as hell.Fresh as hell.Fresh white tee, fresh forces, fresh jeans.His brother used to cut my hair, nigga.
He wore fresh pair of ones.JT even practiced in the fresh pair of ones one day.Solid.
Untied.How was that like, playing with him?He's another point guard, for sure.That's super underrated.He was damn near to me. before Rayford Austin, like the and-one type of player.You know what I'm saying?So how was that playing with Jamal?
you ain't finna find too many guys that's gonna do the playground shit in the game that he would do, you know what I'm saying?He'll post up and turn around and throw it through the guy's legs on the block, or right down to him on the box.
One dribble through his legs, like he was doing stuff like that.So he was probably the most, besides Baron Davis, the most creative person with the ball that I played with. And he's very underrated.I just think because the way he played, it was slow.
He didn't give the effort all the time on defense or like that, so people kind of knocked him for that.But as far as talent, he had it all.
Yeah, he look probably the same height or a little taller than me.
He look real little on the court.
Not athletic, just got the ball on the straight.He could pass like a monk.Especially with the coach he was playing under.For him to play the way he played under that coach at the time, because LB wasn't going for that. Yeah.
So for him to get that up, that's why I go, oh yeah, we got something in the city.
Outside of Tim Duncan, who the best player you ever played with?Tim gotta be one.
Tim is the best I played with.If I have to go, it's out of Rwanda J.O. I got Baron number three, but it's out of Ron and J.O.for two, because I seen Ron do some amazing things on that court.Like, it's just dominated on both sides of the court.
And I seen Jermaine damn near get 70 points, you know what I'm saying, in one night, so.People sleep on J.O.Now, J.O.
The brawl don't happen, he's in the Hall of Fame already.That's a fact.The brawl don't happen, but Ron's in the Hall of Fame.
Nah, I'll give you that.I wanna talk about that Warriors team, though.Y'all, that's probably, I don't know, I ain't gonna say the most fried team, but on record, y'all the most fried team.
That's the, we not the most burnout team in NBA history.I was about to say, D, cuz.Then the Indiana team was.It had to be one of them two.It had to be one of them two, bro.
Charlotte, I mean, the Golden State team was probably the most burnout team ever in life.Y'all made basketball fun, though.Like, watching y'all, I was like, damn, that looked fun.
But just imagine a whole bunch of people you grew up knowing in high school, y'all end up on the same NBA team.And y'all got a coach, Donny, that the first day I get there, this is how he tell me and BD we captains.
He brings us to this little hole in the wall, talking about, I'm going to take you out to this little hole in the wall bar to play shuffleboard.Who knows what shuffleboard is?Niggas don't know what that is, right?I'm like, cool, whatever.
We get there, it's with the sand and little metal balls and you slide it, you know what I mean?So we didn't play this shit at all. This nigga got a bottle of scotch and got me and B.D.pissing drunk.I'm talking about to the, me and B.D.
blinking our eyes.And as we had like the fifth shot, he tapped us up.Larry, come on, Larry.Hey, you guys are captains.And he stumbled out.We roll with him. We called the driver and him and Ladd.So they left me and B.D.
sitting at the bar like, nigga, tomorrow drunk.Because I don't drink scotch.We sitting there wasted like, I guess we captains.We had to find our way home.So that day, we knew, we knew that this, oh nah, we poker coach.
When we took our last drug test, Me and B.D.coming out the locker room with our pink slip, because they give you a pink slip after you take a test.My head coach is out like this, giving us high fives, and come on, yeah, yeah!
We already smoking because we live in the same building.But he giving us high fives and shit.That's so, so, that's legit.I'm just trying to explain to y'all how our team was.You know what I'm saying?Me and Al, best friends.
When we got there, Monte Ellis didn't have a tattoo. Look at him now.The whole body tattoo.He didn't have one tattoo.That was Matt.The belt Matt bought right there.Matt Borns did that to Montay.
Is that you and Matt first time linking up?
Yep.So that's how me and Matt became close.When his mom died, you know what I'm saying?I stayed with him the whole time.You know what I'm saying?We really became brothers.His mama died fast, too, from cancer.
And instead of me going home, doing those little break shit, I just stayed with them.So that's how I started.It didn't start with Da Park, it started way before that.And Golden State.
But that team, bro, it was just a whole bunch of guys that been knowing each other.We get a chance to play together.We didn't think we was gonna make the playoffs and no shit like that.We was just hungry.
And, you know, playing hard and playing for each other, good shit happen.Y'all was going out every night.Every night, bro.It's not one city.Let me tell y'all the story of New Year's.We in Houston on New Year's.We had just beat the Rockets, right?
So this is a typical night for us.So it's New Year's, we beat the Rockets, we in the club.It's about a club, like an hour or two before being closed.By this time, our whole team is drunk, so everybody has a roll.
So I done passed out the bandanas, so everybody got on red bandanas.I don't know why I just, me and BD, me and BD just trip out, we make everybody wear red bandanas, right?Okay? Matt's the drunk, pretty white boy.
So we all drunk, niggas in white beaters.He run around ripping niggas' white beaters off.Like on some, I don't know, some school days type shit.I don't know, old school, I don't know, some drunk white boy shit.
He ripping our shirts off.
So now niggas drunk, half white beaters on, half off, right?So normally, it's my job to find Baron Davis. If we don't find Baron Davis, it's gonna be a night that we gon' remember or we gon' regret it.
So I end up getting too fucked up where I lose Baron.And I get tapped by one of my homeboys, like, bro, look at your boy.I'm like, where he at?And he on his way to the DJ booth.I'm like, ah!DJ B.D.
So look, soon as he grabbed the microphone, my homeboy Coppa would say, B.D.finna get us all indicted.
He said, Vinny's finna get us all indicted.So I said, aw, shit.So he grabbed the mic.He stopped the music.Hey, we the Warriors.
We come to your city.We take y'all bitches.We beat y'all team.What's up, Barnsley Willis and Luther Head, because they was in the club.What's up, Barnsley Willis?We gang bang, and he paused.
And we sell drugs.We like, oh.Oh, dog.Cop on.I told you, man.I told you, man.We like, oh, man, somebody gonna get this nigga now.This is New Year's in Houston, bro.So look, and we sell drugs as well.Hold up.Hold up.
This for the top it off, though.We get outside.Police everywhere.The police is everywhere.You know what I'm saying?People outside, they had a fight or something. So we all coming out, you know, we deep, and the police saying something to us.
This nigga B tells the police, stand down.
I am an honorary captain.I have this under control.Stand down, dog.This nigga told HPD to stand down.
I am an honorary captain, dawg.We was out there dying, dawg.That was one of the best nights of my, but that's the type of night you used to have every night, dawg.Every night.
Everybody had a different, we used to call it J. Rich Don Julio, because that was his favorite drink.
We was drinking shit out the bottle back then, yeah.
I don't know, because I heard them stories about y'all, but I just didn't know how y'all got up and still went out and handled business.
Miami, we play in Orlando.We beat Orlando.We fly straight to Miami on the back to back.We stay out till 7.30 in the morning, the whole team.We all just go straight from the club to the bus.We get on the bus.
Eric, at the time, he's one of the best trainers in the league for the Warriors.So he brought all our stuff on the bus.So everybody on the bus with the clothes they had on from the game. Orlando.That is crazy.
We go to shoot around, Nelly walk out, it's about two people on the court shooting, everybody else... He's like, hold up, bring it in, bring it in.He bring it in, he like... Man, go get back on the bus.And we better win tonight.One by 30.
This D-Wade number.One by 30.I thought we partied when I was a rookie on Atlanta with Biggie and them.Y'all different.
I didn't know if he was comfortable talking about that, but I just hear about Char, bro.That's what made me sponge to y'all, because I'm a fraud, nigga.I'm like, yeah.Fuck, the NBA is a joke.We live with Nainggolato.
If I would've took the Game 1 series, I probably would've had a couple All-Star games, you know what I'm saying, without the brawl and shit, but I don't change it for nothing, because I enjoyed my career, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
I enjoyed it.And I played with some solid brothers, too.How was that?Can you speak on that Maverick series, though?For me, bro, I watched that series a lot, because I didn't get the credit from the team for what I did.
I saved us in the Western Conference Final. I saved us, bro.Ginobili was the only person that was being solid.Tony wasn't playing well, because they had to bring Speedy Claxton in.
Tim was getting doubled, so he really couldn't get off, and they was old.They weren't really doing nothing.So if you look at the games, I'm making all the big shots.Even when we going through droughts, I'm the only one scoring.
So when it came to game six, when they end up putting Steve Kerr in and hit those four threes.It was big for us.But look at the whole game.
I carried us the whole game and we're still making big shots for them to give him the MVP at the end of the game.Like that shit crushed me.
And the only reason that I don't talk about this shit a lot because Jenoblee came to me when I was in my locker.I was about to start crying, but he came and was like, you deserved an MVP.For him to tell me that, I was cool.
Because that was the only person on the court that whole series that was riding with me.You know what I'm saying?And it meant a lot.But I watched that series a lot, bro, because I don't feel like I got the credit I deserve for that series.
I was busting they ass.And I was high every game.
Every game.Every game.You a legend.Now, I want to talk about that Maverick series with you with Golden State, though.Oh, okay.
Yeah, I thought you was talking about the one with the Spurs.So that one was special because A lot of people don't know Don Nelson was suing him.
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Every time I play Dallas, I wanna beat them.I don't care about nothing else, and he knew Dirk's game better than anybody.So he gave us the blueprint, make him go right.
If he go left, he got so many, he can fade away, but if going right, he don't even wanna put the ball down, damn.So me and Matt made sure we made him go right every time, and we was super physical with him.
You know what I'm saying, Dirk wasn't super physical.If you let him get the shot off, that's your ass, nothing you can do.You know what I'm saying, there's nothing you can do. And he won MVP that year.He was the MVP that year.
That was the best team in the West.So I just think Donnie Nelson prepared us so well for them.You know what I'm saying?Because that's all, because after we beat them, he didn't care about the rest of the season.
Nigga, we was preparing ourselves for the second round against Utah.He didn't give a fuck.He was showing up with four cigars in his pocket.It's eight in the morning.He got drinking beer and shit.He didn't give a damn, dog, after he beat Dallas.
That was his chip, bro.And we understood that's why we went so hard.But if we don't have Baron Davis, The way he played game one, we don't win that series in Dallas.He went crazy that game one, bro.
Like 30 some points, and he kept, all his shots was timely.He's one of the coldest point guards ever.
Shout out to my nigga Phil, he love.
I ain't watched the NBA like that, and him and Gilbert Arenas was some of the first point guards I watched.B.D.don't get hurt. he might go down to top 10 points or whatever, he don't get hurt.Because of the athleticism, he had it all.
He could score, that's why I like him.He was mad I said he had a BBL, but... Nah, he did, he know he did.He know he did, he know he did.I think BD just showed up in practice with his knee braces on top of his sweat.
OG for real. Thank you, bro.I didn't have a better career than Ray Allen, but if you look at the games I played against a lot of these people, I balled out.
We might not have won the game, but my matches with a lot of these people who y'all look up to, I bust they ass a lot of nights and locked them up.And you can go look at the games.I'm not making it up.
Like I said, I didn't have better careers than these people, but I'm a competitor.And when it came to the game, I wasn't a better shooter than Ray Allen, but I'm a better post-up player.I passed better.I was a better defender.
I was a lot of things better than him on the court.You know what I'm saying?So as a player, people understand that.As a fan, they're like, y'all, you just hating, but I did it in real time.
I don't think you was hating.
That's just, you know.And I admit to have better careers than me.I'd have a better career than Vince either. But best to tell you, I had some great games against him.
But they understand it's different when you just be like, let's go hoop, roll the ball out.Like, it's a bunch of people that probably will bust my ass.
They probably didn't have a better career than me.But it ain't too many people can stay in front of you.So, that they lose right there.But if you just roll, like Jordan Crawford, like, that's my man.
But if you roll the ball out, say, let's just go hoop.
He'll fuck around and give you 50.
Yes, he will.He can score.I seen him do it in victory.Yeah, you know what I mean?He'll roll the ball out.He'll get buckets in.A lot of people can outscore him.
Brown was a motherfucker though, bro.
In Milwaukee.I love you, Jack.That nigga Jesus showed us words.He's crazy. Yo, he was the truth.
For him to transition his career from, because we grew up Milwaukee Bucks, Supersonic, Ray Allen, and for him to go strictly just shooter, I remember, you know what I mean, I don't know how he was off the court, but Jesus showed his worth.
Nah, he was cold.He was thang.He was athletic.Bro, and he had, he low-key had a handle. The pull-up, off the dribble, he was the first pull-up.Milwaukee.
The Milwaukee way was out of control.Big Dog was going crazy.
Bro, he was scoring 25 a night with another nigga, Rashard Lewis, another motherfucker that people don't speak on.
I took it as you was talking about, we roll the ball out and it ain't no plays, we don't got a...
I knew how, I knew what you meant.
I thought you meant like, we just put the ball out here, I can kill him too.In any given night, I can be better than any one of them guys.
So speaking on that though, you know you was known for defending and shit.Who was the hardest, or you can give us two, hardest motherfucker to guard?Kobe.Kobe?Not even close.Who else though?
One person though.Cause I guarded, well you gotta think.
Yeah, I guarded Melo.I guarded Melo pretty good. I got a mellow pretty good.Cause you know, I played one through four.So I go out of the power force too.But I think for me, if it ain't Kobe.
Somebody that nobody would think.They used to be like, God damn this nigga Kobe.
Brandon motherfucking Roy.And B-Roy.I had problems with that nigga.We used to go at it though, but he was different bro.Like no injury. He one of the coldest ever.One of my favorite shooting guards of all time.I like that.
Hands down, B-Roy is one of the best basketball players I ever had to guard.Not even close.
All right, he get his flyer slot on this show, bro.If he only drew Holiday, he'd probably get smoked up.Nah, for sure.
I gotta ask, both of y'all, y'all both played in this city and lived in the city at the same time, you know what I'm saying?You did a little bit before you did.
The city the city is now, but how was it to be in the city as it was growing until the Mecca it was now, and then how was it playing when it was already lit on the come up?
I came in 03 and it was beautiful because it was, Atlanta was at its height.It was at its height around that time.You know what I'm saying?That's when BMF was doing their thing.The rap scene was solid.Everybody.But that time, it wasn't no beef.
You got people beefing now.Everybody supported each other.Everybody hung out together.Everybody went to the same... When Alice had a party, everybody was there.Back then, everybody was having a good time.And I think it was because
of people like Meech.Because when he used to come in the clubs, he'd come in the club, but it wasn't no problems.He used to buy bottles for everybody in the section.So, you know what I'm saying?Everybody was having a good time back then.
It wasn't no competition, you know what I'm saying?Like it is now, and the different hoods beef.And so, The club and the party, it was the best time to be in Atlanta, bro.It was the best time to be in.
Now it's just too much with the pills and the drugs and the kids killing, you know what I'm saying?It's just the blind leading the blind now.But back then, at that height,
So Magic City and Club Miami and all that shit back then, bro, Atlanta was beautiful.You wanted to be in Atlanta.Damn.Even when I got here, it was still fun.When you got here?I got here in 09.09, yeah.Yeah, I still was having fun.
Like, I remember the first time that I really, well, it was Antoine Walker was there.It's the first time I ever been to Magic City.I don't know who that is.
I don't do twat like that.That's my dog.You know, that's why I do the twat, bro.
No, that's my dog.He show me some good times.Man, I go to Magic City, I end up going in there and he got a briefcase.I'm from Indianapolis, I ain't never seen a briefcase full of ones.
They bring the briefcase out to him, he open it up, I think it was what, 10,000 ones or something.And they like, nah, Twon, get that every Monday.I'm like, what the fuck?
And he like, young fella, he throw me $1,000, young fella. And Smooth, like, that's my OG.I'm like, ah, yeah, that's different.And he's like, yeah, he come every Monday.
But we stayed in that motherfucker, bro.Shout out to the A, baby.We stayed in that motherfucker.It was safe.It was safe.You didn't gotta worry about no cameras.You know what I'm saying?
Like, something about Magic City, man, where it was, like, you don't hear no stories.All the stuff that went on, you ain't never heard no stories about no bullshit going on in Magic City, because everybody was protected and safe.
Everybody had a good time.I seen you in there a couple times, just showing love.You be chilling.I was like, I ain't realize you was that tall.Like, when I got drafted, I ain't realize niggas was that tall.You know, at school.
At one point, I'm 6'1", I played the 2 sometimes.
When I got here and I seen him, I'm like, this nigga 6'8".
Like, when I see him, I'm like, man, I ain't got no chance, man.I played a two sometimes.
These niggas was huge.And here he come just running around, nigga.I gotta ask you, like you said, all the smoke, man.You and Matt went crazy.How was that, you know what I'm saying?Y'all had a relationship.Now y'all come as business partners.
Like you said, trailblazers in the situation.It was y'all knuckleheads.To see how y'all started and to where you is now, man, like, what's thinking back?How is that feeling, man, to see how y'all progressed so far?
It ain't nothing but God, bro, to be honest, bro.Because, you know, like, I ain't no different than y'all.We ain't no different than y'all. A lot of times, especially after the bath our careers in, guys like me and Matt don't get these opportunities.
They give them to the guys that was the stars, that was on the commercials and all that shit.
Well, I think God just put us in the perfect time because when me and Matt both decided to stop doing Fox ESPN, we ended up coming up with All the Smoke and we brought it to a woman named Ellen Rickardson.
Ellen Rickardson is the woman who started Red Table Talk.She started Red Table Talk, and her and Matt like this.That's Matt's girl.She ended up calling Brian Daly.Brian Daly was the VP of sports at Showtime.
They was looking to put another sports show, but they didn't know, they wanted to have a sports show, but they didn't know about podcast.We didn't even know about podcast.When Matt told me about it, I'm like, what is it?
And when Matt brought him the idea, they said, cool, Matt, we'll do it with you, but we don't want Steven Jackson. We heard a lot of stuff about him, and I was like, I ain't doing it if it ain't him. I'm not doing it.Yeah, I'm not doing it.
And we do the first photo shoot for it, and we smoking and shit.We smoking and shit on the photo shoot.I got my shirt off like a rap album and shit.Hold up, man.Hold up, hold up.Hold up, hold up.This might not work, man.
I don't think we can show time to get behind this.But they got behind it, bro.And we end up cleaning it up a little bit.We smoked on some shows, but we end up cleaning it up to the point where
We ended up doing a deal with iHeart for our audio, and we ended up building our relationship with Showtime.So now we're five years in, so it ends up where, five years into podcasting now, Paramount buys Showtime.
And they want to get rid of all their properties, the social properties, the boxing, and Showtime boxing was the biggest thing that they had.So during that time, Brian Daly, which is the VP, he knew that Showtime was about to get bought out.
So he had an idea with him and Matt, let's start our own production company.So while we was still with Showtime, we started building All The Smoked Productions with Dave Redd.You know what I'm saying?Started building All The Smoked Productions.
And during that time, I had gotten into boxing.When I started doing the weigh-ins for boxing, I started doing the interviews with Tank, and Tank started wanting me in all his fights and shit like that.So I got into the box.
So when Showtime had to buy, when Paramount was buying us out, Bryan finessed some type of way where we own all Showtime boxing properties now.So now Showtime boxing is all the smoke fight and all the smoke boxing.
So we finna be a big player in the boxing space now.We gonna put on our own fights, taking that whole blueprint and doing that now.
So I think for us with the production company, the show, we have a partnership with DraftKings where we have a number of shows on their network.I think just the fact that We were able to build so much stuff from just starting with the podcast.
You know what I'm saying?That's why the sky's the limit for y'all, because y'all done so much in a short time.But for us to be able to build a box in the podcast and a production company,
and started doing live shows, like, that ain't nothing but God, bro, because we didn't expect, we didn't know what we was doing.
We didn't have no blueprint to it, we just jumped out there on the league, but the timing and everything worked to our favor, you know, with Paramount and all that, everything was so, that's why I say it was God, bro, because a lot of stuff that happened with us, it was just perfect time for us to be where we at now.
Did y'all put that better than KG back?
Yes, so we had a lot to do with KG Certified.You know, we have a show called Certified Smoke, what we do across show with them.You know what I'm saying?And we was doing a lot of business.
We was actually producing their shows with Art of Smoke Production.I think they're going on and doing their own stuff now.Trying to do their own algorithm and stuff now.But we still a family.
We still do Certified Smoke, but we definitely started them.We have the show with Rondo and Boogie, Bully Ball.We have Rachel Nichols.We're building some other properties now.But on the boxing side, we have Andre Ward and Roy Jones.
We just signed them. It's been a blessing, man.We're just trying to continue to build this because they don't expect stuff like this to happen from guys like us.You know what I'm saying?They don't expect that, but I'll follow Matt anywhere.
I think Matt and Brian... Brian Daly's been big for us, because they have that mindset.I haven't been in one meeting, I haven't missed one check.My job ain't to be in the meetings, because I know that ain't my specialty.
I didn't go to school, Matt didn't go to school for that shit.When it's time to collect money, when it's time to show up and entertain, I know my job.So everybody in our, I list small 12 people on our roster, everybody got a job to do.
I think we depend on everybody to do their job. you know, everybody want to play their role and be a star in their own role.
And that's one thing I think people don't realize, like, with these opportunities, yeah, it might start off as a podcast, but we have an opportunity for, especially black entrepreneurs, to build enterprises off this stuff.
Like you said, you going to a Showtime box.Like, I kept seeing you at the box and stuff, so now it's all making sense.
But that's dope.Like, you getting collecting intellectual properties that they don't give us the opportunity to have.Look what had to happen for y'all to even have an opportunity, because those cable networks don't fail.
They sell, or they just get bigger. So that's dope to see y'all capitalize on that.It shows the business mind.Like you said, everybody play their part.That's a dope part.Ain't nobody getting out of pocket.Ain't nobody getting too gritty.
We got an operation, got a machine to keep flowing.And it's dope to see that for y'all, man.We love to see that.
I want to ask you, bro, he did his first thing with Q. This shit with the big three, which was one of the pioneers to kick that shit off, bro.How did that come about?
So for me, when the Big Three first started, I was excited because I knew I was one of those guys that wanted to play basketball still. and I wasn't going overseas, you know what I'm saying?
I wasn't doing no shit like that, but I wanted to play right here.And Q, a lot of the guys that Q liked watching play was retiring and leaving the game.
So when he started the league, he was like, bro, I wanna start this league, I wanna do a combine in Vegas just to see what the league was like.So during that time, I was doing tour days.
I was working hard, I got swole, like I, cause I got back into that mode, you know what I'm saying?I got back into the basketball mode.And when we got there, I seen a lot of guys wasn't in shape.
And I seen a lot of guys thinking like, man, I'm just gonna get this check. Guaranteed 10,000 a week, I ain't finna work, I'm just gonna show up and get this money.No, you're not.
First day while they're having the combine, Cube asked me and Al and Coutinho and Corey McGregor to play just like a test game to see what the league would be like.And I took that shit too serious.You know what I'm saying?
Because I did, you know what I'm saying?Because I really wanted to set the tone because I seen how niggas was approaching this shit.How they was showing up all fat and out of shape.
I'm not finna be, like, if y'all gonna show up like this, then I'm gonna give everybody 100 points every night.You know what I'm saying?That was my attitude.You know what I'm saying?So, that scrimmage I was talking, she know me and Al best friends.
I was calling Al bitches, cursing him out, like, we was like, me and Cory's brothers, like, we was going at each other for that little short time.
But everybody, like a hundred people in the gym, everybody saw like, okay, this what the league gonna be like.And Q was excited, like, that's what I needed, that's what I needed.And...
I was happy to not only play in the big three, but shit, we all looked up to Ice Cube.I look up to fucking Cube.How could I not be in his league?And the fact that he say I had a big part in, you know what I'm saying?That meant everything to me, dog.
So that's why I still coach now.That's why I'm still involved in the league now.You know what I'm saying?Because I know where he wants to go with the league, and we all have an opportunity to benefit off something great.You know what I'm saying?
Something that a black person is building. I'ma always be down with him, you know what I'm saying?Even if it's just coaching like I'm doing now, I'ma be a part of the league.Yeah, he said that half-court, bringing the white niggas three checks.
Talking out their bullshit that first week, I said, shit, that's an NBA court.He was like, yeah, he thought this shit was easy.I was like, hell yeah.Bro, I used to, my first, my year's plan, all my points was on the block.
I hit a couple threes, but I'm a big two guard.So nine out of 10, the people that I play against in the big three, I'm going to have an advantage on the block.You know what I'm saying?And I abused that shit, but that's how I had success.
But when Joe came, it was over. I ain't the biggest Gatooguard in the world.No hell no.Joe punishing everybody.That's a 6'8", 260.With the hair and all, he had it all.I've been my nemesis my whole career, though.
Joe used to bust my ass my whole career.Oh, so that's one.
We used to go out, but Joe spun me around.I remember Joe spun me around one time.Oh, I do remember that shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.And he did it behind his back.And then he spun me around.Then he spun me around.Because I came to the bitch, I was like, you got to have a string like that.He was like, why you be so hype?
I think it was like a foul happened or something.I had to foul him because he spun me around.Ain't nobody never fall.AI made me stumble and Joe spun me around, but ain't nobody never made me fall.You know who made me fall?Flip.He made me fall.
My first preseason game, he was on the Bobcats.He was in Atlanta the year before and they didn't pick up his option.I was on that team.First preseason game, he went, snatched back. I looked at the bench, Joe Smith had a tie like this.
Smooth was like this.B.D.was standing up.I was like, ah, shit.B.D.wearing a tie, like, welcome to the league, bro.Welcome to the league.
I was hurt.I was playing defense so hard, the next possession, dude was like, it's cool, man.You know, Flippy like, chill.It was cool.
Flip was a buck again, though.Yeah, he was.Flip was a buck.
That's another underrated one, for sure.
For sure.Did y'all win that chip?The first year, the big three?
No, so I was on the killer threes at that time.Trilogy went 10-0, that's Al and Kent.They went, and Meshawn McCants.Al and Meshawn McCants walked everybody down for 10 games.25, you get 25, I get 25. And nobody could guard Al.
I'm talking about Al and Rashawn McCaffrey's low-key unstoppable that first year.They dominated that first year.That's how Isaiah was playing this year on Yeltsin.I was like, nigga, you gonna post up the whole game.
And I hear you like, oh, go back down.Make it easy.Go back down.Make it easy.These niggas gonna make it.You chasing my neck.You ain't faster than these motherfuckers.You know what I'm saying?Weigh them down.
Can we do it in this game?
And he stopped.He stopped posting up.And guess what happened? They walked us down.
And he got tied.I told him, I said, boy, you try to guard these niggas out here, I wear out it, you're gonna be tied.And guess what he did at the end of the game?Dumbfile, because he was tied. I told them they gonna walk us down.We not a fast team.
We gotta use our size.They walked us down.
It's a big moment in the big three.That's a historic big three game right there.
They walked us down, dog.
Can you speak on the moment you and Oak had?
Yeah, so what people don't know is that's one of my best friends in the world.We talk all the time.So it was just a moment where two competitors So Oak wants to win just as bad as I do.
We was in Texas, so I feel like anywhere in Texas, I can get anybody murdered. That's just how I feel.I'm that live.I'm that live in Texas, you know what I mean?I'm just keeping it real, you know what I'm saying?If I wanted to, I'm at peace.
I'm at peace with everybody.But if I wanted to, I could make some shit happen in Texas.You know what I'm saying?And I was, my adrenaline was pumping.His adrenaline was pumping.He took me out the game because I was arguing the refs.
And he's like, man, get back in the game.I'm like, I told him something.I was like, I said something like, I'm going back in the game.He was like, no, you not.I'm like, who gonna stop me?He's like, I'm gonna stop him.Nigga, you know where you at?
I'm just here to remind you, nigga.We in Texas, nigga.You know where you at?Nigga, O came back with the hardest shit ever.Nigga, I'm like American Airlines.I'm everywhere.
We going back and forth, he knew what he was doing though, because I got mad when I ended up winning the game.
And we at the bar together, right after, not even talking about it, but that's just our passion for wanting to win, you know what I'm saying?He knew he needed me in the game for us to win, you know what I'm saying?
I wasn't understanding that, my adrenaline was pumping, but that's my guy, dog.That's just two fiery guys, you know what I'm saying, trying to win and just emotions boiled over. That's some shit I saw.There's nobody I respect more than Charles Oak.
Before we get out of here, man, tell the people, you know what I'm saying, y'all entrepreneurs, I got the liquor on the way for the people, man.I appreciate that.We have a Mezcal that just dropped called the Neos.
It's in like 10 to 15 states right now.It's not in Atlanta yet, but it's on the West Coast in New York that we sold out of already in LA.And we also have a coffee table book.The first podcast with a coffee table book was Smith & Schuster.
Call All The Smoke coffee table that's out right now as well.
We got to put it on the desk that nobody like.We got to put a new set that everybody hate.
Clue 520 need to be a part of that liquor brand.
So we putting that in existence right now.We need to do a collab with y'all.Shout out to my All The Smoke team, Matt, Brian, Jelani. Shout out to Matt, he always show love.Gave me some bucks early on the podcast game, too.
And then let me say this too, bro.I'm glad y'all doing the show, because a lot of people think, me and Matt always try to say this on our show, it ain't no competition.
That's why, if y'all look at my Instagram, I be shouting out all kinds of shows all the time, different shows.Shows that people don't even know, because I want people to know it's enough for all of us.It ain't no competition.
They want us to think, because We're all black and we all have this certain talent to be in front of this camera and to draw people in that we're in competition.We're not in competition because we all have our own different stories.
And our stories are different.So I want people to understand that your voice is just as big as anybody else's voice.You know, so just believe in your shit.And that's why I'm glad y'all doing y'all shit, bro.And I'm honored to be here.
We're gonna do this again, man.Before we get out of here, we gotta ask somebody. Oh, the VP, ooh, that's a good question.So me and Matt argued for four days.When I got to, where we did it, baby?Where we did it at?In D.C., we went to the VP house.
When I got there, Matt was calling me to, it's a true story, he was calling me to come out to eat.I'm not asking, I'm screening his phone call.I don't wanna be here, nigga.I don't wanna be in politics.I don't wanna do this.Am I lying, baby?
We at home, me and Matt arguing.We arguing about this shit because the people that support me, they look at shit how I look at it.The answers to equality and to making America the way it's supposed to be is not rocket science.
It's not rocket science, bro.Y'all know how to give equality to make people equal?Just how y'all put people ahead of us. So the same way to do that is to make it, equality is real simple, dawg.Just give people what they need.It's not rocket science.
So that's why I don't wanna be in politics, because there's a lot of hope dealing.They in the hope, they ain't into actually trying to fix shit.
They wanna make you think that they got the ideas or they got plans to fix shit, and shit never gets fixed.So that's why I didn't wanna be in politics.And I seen it firsthand with the George Floyd situation.So when Matt was telling me about,
interview the VP, I'm not with it because the people that support me feel the same way I feel.I don't trust her.I know it's all bullshit.Nobody's really for us.I'm the president of my household.You know what I'm saying?
I don't give a fuck about who the president is.I'm the president of my shit.You know what I'm saying?And that's how I looked at it. Matt's looking at it as from a business side.What's this gonna do for our show?
What's this gonna do for our production company?I'm not thinking that.Man, fuck that.Even the day before, I'm in my room.Matt is calling me to come prep.I'm not answering my phone. No, nigga, I can show you messages.
Hold on, I'm gonna show y'all, let y'all know how real it is, nigga, because y'all are my partners.I'm gonna show y'all how real.This is how I was doing him when he was sending me the messages, bro.I'm gonna show you how I was doing him.
You don't want to hear about the collard greens, nigga, in the tub, nigga?I don't want to hear about nothing.I do not want the collard greens.
Damn, gang.Bro, I'm gonna show y'all, hold on.
This is the messages my bro was sending me, look. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, look.
He texted, he sent me something, I say, he say, I don't want to, look, he say, so you're not going to, you're going to pout and ignore me the whole time you don't want to smoke?
Look, I say, I don't want to smoke, don't want to hang out, don't want to eat nothing.Do my job, look, do my job and be out, nigga.He say, do you want to play COD trying to be funny?Nigga, look.
Oh, okay. I'ma send you the video, he's being an asshole.You know what I'm saying?That's how y'all know y'all brothers right there.
I was not talking to him, dog.So even, look, Matt said it on the show, even when we got to the BP house, I'm sitting in there like this.You know me, JT.I wear my emotions on my sleeve, boy, I can't hide.
I'm... Don't wanna be here, because I know, perfect example, I told him, asked my wife, I said, why don't you go do it? They came back.We don't want to do it without him.
Because I'm the face of the biggest civil rights movement ever with the George Floyd shit.I know why y'all want me there.You're using me as a pawn.I know what you're doing.Everybody else might not see it, but I see it.You know what I'm saying?
And I wanted to benefit from the shit.I'm not thinking business-wise, but I'm glad I did that shit.You know how much shit came from us doing the interview? All this shit coming, and so Matt was right.And I always follow him with business-wise.
You know what I'm saying?But I did not want to, and I still don't want to be in politics.You know what I'm saying?But let me say this too.They say, what's your why for voting?I found my why.And let me tell you why I found my why.
I can't talk too much about it, but I was recently tased by the police from behind.I got stitches in my chin right now. tased from behind just because I was a big guy recently, bro.
And me seeing the George Floyd shit, dealing with the police and all that, how they was treating me.Donald Trump was talking about giving police immunity.So I found my why.
I can't live my life with the police treating y'all, my sons, or anybody the way they planning to treat us, bro.So that's my why for voting.I just found my why.Especially after how they treated me.You know what I'm saying?
I wasn't even on no dumb shit.He told me he tased me because I was a big guy. I broke two teeth in the back, all that.So that's my why.Especially since being through it now, I never voted.I don't believe in politics.
But if I had to vote, that would be my why.Because I don't want him to get police immunity, because they already treating us like shit.Just imagine what they're going to do if they know they can get away with it.Straight up.
We're going to have all my conversation about that situation.Shout out to Freaky Mike.
Shout out to them collard greens, D.
Come on, man.Hey, I did hear that story now.I've been eating collard greens all my life.I've never seen them get cleaned in no bathtub.
They took this nigga to Cuba.I told y'all.I've never seen a dick clean in no bathtub, my nigga.I'm sorry.
This nigga say this shit every show, bro.Whenever you see anybody clean green, they gonna fill that sink up on both sides.
They gonna fill that sink up on both sides.
That's it.We in the kitchen, nigga.Ain't nobody going to the bathroom.We in the kitchen, nigga.Where your ass at?I don't know anything.Where your ass at? I put Tyler Greene's in the tub, man.Come on now.Tyler Greene's weak as hell.
I ain't going.Next time somebody asks her who her favorite rapper is, it can't be Tupac, because they say, who's your favorite rapper that's alive?And she said Tupac.I know what she meant.We ain't going to judge her for that.She's Milli Vanilli.
And we out back there.We're going to do this again, man.
Me and Tupac in that grass in front of y'all.Shopclub520.com.We got merch now, baby.
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