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Hello.Welcome to Reddit Stories.I'm Shane.And today, it's all about travel.And I'm joined by two weary travelers, Ian and Amanda. Hello.
So these stories are all about travel.We've done travel stories before.A lot of drama happens in regards to travel, you know, who you go on a trip with, how trips go, planes.Passport bros.
We did travel stories together.Yeah.Here, right here on Reddit.
And now we're doing it again.Have you recently traveled at all?
Yes, I've traveled a lot this year.I went to Florida.Oh, wow.I went to Cape Cod and I went to Greece.
And you, you talked about this on Smosh Mouth, but going on your trip with your family, there was a little bit of drama here and there.
There's four sisters and one mother.That's five Portuguese women in one place.All trying to choose dinner.That's a lot.Where did you travel to, Bud?
Well, my passport was expired for a whole year.Wow!What?
How did you let that happen?
It just happened one day.I looked at my passport and went.
Oh, this is old so I and then you know like I didn't want to like I tried to get it renewed and like Went to FedEx and I was like I heard you guys renew passports, and they're like no we don't and I was like okay So just kind of sat in my room for a while, and then I did it online.
Yeah, I took my passport photo here at the office with like crappy light and they accepted it.Like smosh?Yeah.Photo doesn't look great, but I got my passport, so I'm ready to travel the world.
Where are you going?Are you going to go somewhere?Have you planned?
I want to go to Austria, but I feel like I kind of like, I want to go like when it's like green and there's waterfalls and I feel like now it's probably gotten snowy.
Our first one comes from Am I the Asshole?Am I the asshole for refusing when my friend wanted to join my fiance and I on our first trip together? I, a 22-year-old woman, and my fiancé, a 23-year-old man, are going on our first trip together.
I'm really excited as this is my first time on a plane and even leaving the state I've lived in my whole life.We've been planning for this trip since earlier this year and we've gotten our tickets as well as accommodations.
Altogether, we've already spent about $4,500 on everything, which has been something we've been saving for as we're both college students.
Our trip is in about a month, and in comes my friend, we'll call her Ashley, she's 22, who's been my friend for about a year.She'd brought up going to Japan as well, kind of jokingly, when we told her about the trip.
I didn't think she was serious, but then she brought it up a few more times, even saying that she had a family member she could stay with.
She asked if she could spend some time during the days joining us on our adventures while this family member was at work. I was supportive of this idea, as I know this would be her first time in Japan as well, and I care about her.
However, when she told me she wanted to get the tickets, her family member no longer would have space for her to stay.She wants to know if she can stay in our accommodations and join us on our flight back home.
I let her know that our accommodation has strict rules against having more than two people, and there's only one small bed in this studio.She said she'd be fine sleeping anywhere on the floor or couch, et cetera.
I told her I'd be more comfortable if we didn't chance a fee or getting in trouble in general, as I really just want a comfortable stay.
I told her that we're still willing to spend time with her during the day, and I began sending her accommodations in her budget.I was hoping this would be enough.
Instead, she's just asking if we can cancel our accommodations and pay for larger accommodations that can have a bed for her as well.
Mind you, she's not saying she will help us pay for the more expensive accommodation, or anything else for that matter. She simply just wants to stay with us and for us to pay for a different accommodation.
It seems like no matter what I say, she just keeps trying to manipulate me into letting her stay with us.
This is also hard because I know my fiance and I really wanted this to be a romantic trip for us both, as we likely won't be able to afford another for a few years as we finish school.I'm just stuck on what to say or do.
And if I'm the asshole here, should I be okay with my friends staying in our accommodations and joining in our trip?
I can't with this one.Wow.I mean, it's because they're 22.I mean, come on.
I think there's just like zero self-awareness.Some people just aren't self-aware.
I think, yes, I agree, but also immediately would have been like, no.
Yeah, it's.No.I don't understand also, even from the start of this, when it's like, oh yeah, my fiance and I are going on our first trip together, the thought of going, Can I join?Yeah, I want to see like as a joke.
Well, that sounds really cool Yeah, yeah, it's like and this isn't the first time we've had stories where people are going on a trip and Someone is like can I join your trip to out of country?
I understand being invited on someone's trip but to unless it's like a People do a lot of blings or like your absolute best friend.Yeah, I don't understand.
I would never a lot I tried to come to Greece with her and her sister Yeah, and I was like you can't because the accommodations are so strict and then when you were there in Greece all sudden It was like wait, who's this fourth sister?
Fifth sister, that would have been five sisters.And one mother, that would have been six people.
And your mom is like, Ian, you're my favorite daughter for years.
Ian, you wanna go to dinner, Ian.
Kanto.I can't. Believe this.
Here's the thing people weirdly do that.They'll be like, oh my god Well, we've always wanted to go to Japan and maybe we'll meet you there.
I'll meet you there It's always this weird tricky thing and it just the worst thing to do is to be like No, you cannot come to this country that I have no ownership of but also no well and the prospect of like
being on a trip to a country and if you have friends who are also going to be there around the same time, but you're going on two separate trips to the same place is what it originally sounded like.So it's like, oh, I have a family member there.
I'll go stay with them.But as soon as that doesn't work, it's like, oh, then I'm sorry, your trip is not working out.You were never on our trip to Japan.
Also, this is her first time leaving the state, getting on a plane,
It's super special and she wants to spend it with her fiance.
Also, put two and two together.You're not gonna sleep on the floor in their small accommodations.
Yeah, they gotta fuck.That's what I was gonna say.
And then I thought I was gonna get in trouble for it.
I wouldn't want that.If I'm talking to friends, even if this had all been planned and I was invited to go with them.I probably would have said no.I'd have been like, oh, well, I have to find my own accommodations.
I'm not staying in the same room as a couple.
You imagine sleeping on the floor and then going like, no kissing, guys.
Hear you what are you guys doing?Oh the blankets are all moving in your legs are in the air And then they wake up they wake up in the middle of the night And I'm standing at the foot of the bed, and I'm just like I float up
Because like it does kind of remind me of when I was in Japan for one reason and you and Damien were in Japan for no reason Oh, and we were in Tokyo at the same time and we met up.
Yeah, you know, we met up a few times but it was like we had our own thing that we were doing totally and We met up in Kauai Yeah, we did.Yeah lunch.
We're on the same Ian happens to always be And he was in Florida He's there in the lake like an alligator Amanda um, I think what what's happening here is OP is similar to me where they're afraid of confrontation They're afraid of saying no to someone.
You would have said no, though.
Oh, yeah.Well, because at a certain point, too, you get to the point where you go, oh, I just know.I don't think this is a big deal.This is not offensive to say no.So if they're offended, that's their problem.
But it's just no.It's just simply no.And I think it's not too late for them to even go, we kind of actually want this to be a romantic thing for just the two of us.I think we're going to go do our own thing.Yeah.And we don't really want to.
Here's what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking Opie's friend It seems like stepping on eggshells because if they're that close it seems like the friend gets mad about and also remember There's always a friend who's gets kind of either cool or upset with a couple It's kind of always like a weird line there.
Yeah interesting not the asshole in my opinion.
Oh definitely not that yeah, I
Comments here not the asshole, but you will be if you allow her to go This was to be a romantic trip for you and your boyfriend.
She invited herself claiming She had someone she could stay with This was probably false all along and she waited until the last minute to ask if she can stay with you Thinking she could guilt you into it
Then when you told her no, she wanted you to pay for a larger accommodation so she could stay, but she offered you no money.
Chances are she also has no money for accommodations or food and planned to mooch off you and your boyfriend on all your sightseeing and meals.Just tell her no.
You are not willing for her to join at all, maybe sometime in the future, but this is just a trip for you and your boyfriend. That could all be true.I also don't, we don't know.
Some people are also, there are people out there who are just unaware, unaware and totally just like not thinking things through.I'm not saying that's what this commenter is saying isn't true.It could be, but that wouldn't be my initial thought.
It also doesn't matter.You say no. Yeah.Someone else said, not the asshole, but this is a no brainer.You aren't being honest with her.Stop using accommodations as an excuse and tell her the truth.This is your first trip with your fiance.
The two of you have planned it carefully for just the two of you.Your plans are final.They cannot be changed.You look forward to traveling with her in the future, but not on this trip.
If she was truly a close friend, she would have had the good sense not to try and force herself on you.
You haven't known her very long at all You may just now be seeing her the real her if she doesn't drop the subject immediately then drop her She's an acquaintance.Not a friend.Oh, so that's her.Let's see.
Did they I thought it was Yeah incomes incomes my friend Ashley who's been a friend about a year oh That's a lot for after a year.I yeah this this year.
Maybe it's not like everyday kind of friend.I
This is that's shocking though for that quick.
I think but I think like the like Mooching thing like kind of like has me a little bit like I somewhat suspect that now now with it that with that Amount of time that yeah, they're also still in college.
They said yeah, yeah Something that I also think their behavior where they're they're trying to find physical reasons why this person can't come on it seems like this is someone who's not respecting her feelings and
Yeah, as you know, it's okay to use your feelings as a reasoning for something to being like, you know I just I want this to be my husband and I yeah, that's my reasoning that it's not that our accommodation We could be staying in a five-room hotel room easy, but I want it to just be my husband and I but this we have to use She's clearly she's clearly afraid of using just her emotions.
Because this person clearly is going to go, that's not a reason.Like, I don't know, this person's not respecting him.
Lastly, someone said, Ashley, it seems like a lot of things you were counting on for this trip are falling through.I think you'd better try again later when things line up for you.Fiance and I will be taking this couple's trip without you.
Like that's what she should say.
Yeah.I mean, I totally agree with what you're saying about like just Speaking to your feelings about just being like I want this just be my husband.
Yeah, and that's and there's no room with that Yeah, and if you can't respect that then that's fucked up.
Yeah, you're not gonna be friends for very long.
Please tell me there's an update update Okay, what do we think do we think it's a mooching situation or do we think it's a
Okay, I think the roommate, I think the two of them went there and the roommate was at the hotel like, hey guys!
Roomies!That's what you do.
Yeah, but I mean, it's our fun little thing, Amanda.
I know, it's our thing that we have that he does every time.
We were on the flight to Kauai and I was walking down the aisle and I went, huh? That really happened.
That really did happen.He doesn't care.
I care.Doesn't seem like it.I care.
It seems like you're not listening to our feelings.
Shane. Let's all go to Japan together.
Feelings matter in these situations.
I think there's some like jealousy with the girls getting married and maybe she's not and she's like, well, I'm your friend too.And like, we always do things together.And then he came along.
But she's only been their friend for a year.
But maybe she's in love. I was kind of reading this through, thinking like this is a 10-year friend.
Which makes a lot more sense, but a year in.
It's either that or mooching.Can I have both options?
Sure.Okay.All right. I ended up refusing for the 10th time and told her no bluntly and as clearly as possible.
I also made sure to say that I wasn't down with changing anything and that I want to spend time with only my fiance, that I've been trying to nicely say no, but I don't appreciate getting manipulated nor having my partner's and I's feelings ignored.
She said, we've been talking about this trip for so long.Why didn't we just work it out earlier?It's not my fault that this is last minute.Why won't you just do this one?It's not much different.There's just an extra bed.
She sent me a link to a specific accommodation where the two beds are side-by-side just by the way She basically she basically ignored what I said, so I have ignored her since we're in the same friend group So I think it's probably going to get weird, but honestly I'm okay with that regardless of how that goes my fiancee And I will be going alone and not meeting up with her or anyone anywhere during our trip.
Oh I'm going to work on the saying no thing and setting harder boundaries.I just had an abusive upbringing and I'm still working on it all.I keep needing to remind myself that I'm not in that place anymore."
She's not the only 22 year old out there who's really bad at saying no, like I was horrendous at it at that age.I had to come up with all these reasons to say no to people instead of just saying no, it's okay.
Well, it's hard because some people make you feel bad about being honest.
Also the two beds together like girl move on yeah, what the hell often what ten times I Cannot stand people who don't take no for an answer like it's it is enough of a reason for me to slowly drift away from someone because It's it's like the most Basic like form of disrespect that people can do is like you go like oh, no.
I know thanks, and then there's like I Yeah, but I'm not gonna.
You know really like thinking about this.
Just just listen to that truly That's all that's all tell me there's pictures of them in Japan.
No Did they have a good time?
It's the girl in the background like this
Well, that's all right, that's it well wow she did the right thing she did the right thing Okay, yes, we're our next story happy for her our next story is a doozy.Let's go.
I've read this one Okay, here we go this was on am I the asshole and it got reposted on to am I the devil So this is a real piece of shit here.
Am I the asshole for partying with my friend midway through a Grand Canyon hike?Sorry partying or partying Parting I am partying ways with you now.From my friend.
Do you imagine partying in the middle of the Grand Canyon?
Set up some speakers, some lights.Oh, sick.Partying in the Grand Canyon would be sick.Dope.
Yeah.I want to do that.Unless there's a flash flood.
My friend Crystal and I spent six months planning and training for a very intense all-day hike of the Grand Canyon.We would go down South Kaibab and up Bright Angel on Crystal's birthday in June, which would be over 100 degrees.
Two weeks before the hike, our friend Valerie said she wanted to join us.Valerie looks way fitter than us.She does CrossFit and has a six-pack, and we assumed she would be fine.
On the trip, leading up to the hike, Valerie was eating salad while Crystal and I were carb loading with pasta and pizza.
Crystal and I each bought four liters of water, trail mix, and granola bars, and believed Valerie had packed her bag with the same, as it was all in the hotel room for all of us to share when we packed up the night before.
About half the way down, Crystal and I realized that at the pace Valerie was going, and thus the rest of us, we would not finish the hike before sundown.
We told Valerie about our concerns, and she said we should just hike ahead without her, and that she would either catch up, or if it was too much, turn back.We asked if she was really sure about it, and she said she was, so off we went.
When we got to the bottom of the canyon, we waited for about an hour at the Colorado River, but did not see her.At that point, we really had to get going, so we would finish the trail before nightfall.
We tried to call her from a payphone, but got her voicemail.None of us had reception.We explained the situation to a ranger and they said they'd look out for her.
When we were close to the top and it was actually already dark, we got reception and got messages from her that she had collapsed and had to stay at the lodge at the bottom of the canyon.
The lodge is booked months out, but I guess they hold some emergency beds.She would hike out the next day with another group and said not to worry about her.
Both Crystal and I were totally destroyed physically, but we got in the car, went and demolished a pizza, then went to sleep at the hotel Oddly, we found half of Valerie's water and all of Valerie's food at the hotel.
I don't want to make too many assumptions about her, but I think it's clear enough to say that it seemed clear she didn't know how to eat during or before a hike, despite our guidance.The next day, Valerie said she would be up by 3 p.m.
I was planning to pick her up.However, the one update we got from her was that she would be hours late.6 p.m.rolled around and she still wasn't up. I left her a voicemail letting her know we needed to continue on to our next hotel one hour away.
We were both feeling really beat up, and I didn't think I would have the energy to do the drive much later.I told her in the voicemail that I'd pay for her to Uber to the hotel.Just tell me how much it was.
At around 10 p.m., Valerie called me furious.It took her over 13 hours to hike up, and she almost didn't make it.She was suffering from sunstroke.She said she could have died because we abandoned her, and we were really selfish not to stay with her.
This is the dumbest shit.
I'm in a nightmare right now.
So all of the stupidness is before they, is allowing her to go on this.Yeah.Because people who don't hike regularly probably underestimate how intense it is.
Also the Grand Canyon, I think for a lot of people, they think like, oh, it's a, you hike down into the canyon, you back up.It's like, it's massive.That's like what, 3000, 2000 feet?It's gigantic.
Can I be honest?I hiked the Grand Canyon when I was seven.
In Keds. There's home video of it.
Yeah, and I was like mom.Why didn't you pack me good shoes?She was like, I forgot.
We also don't know which we also don't know which hike they're doing.
Sounds like they're doing an aggressive one.I think it was called blue angel.
Yeah, South Kaibab to whatever angel, but this is the thing.They're like, oh, she's really fit.It's like, yeah, but that doesn't matter.And then there's like hiking crossfade.
Yeah, there's a difference fit.I mean, unless she needs to do a bunch of
Like it's its own unique thing I mean, it's really wasn't prepared It was really dumb of them to accept like they should have been like no like I'm sorry this we've been planning this for months We've been training for months.
We don't feel comfortable bringing on someone that she didn't train with them No Two weeks before like it's date.That's dangerous No, it's like I'm sorry.This is also a hundred degree weather an intense hike.
Yes We have to be accountable for each other.I don't think it was great for them to leave her I was gonna say no.No, no, no, no leaving her behind is the dumbest thing of it all
Even if she said, leave me behind, you never leave someone alone.
No, it's 100 degrees.You're doing an intense hike.And you know better than anybody.I know better than anyone, because my brother and I got lost on a hike once.But it's one of the rules.You don't go off trail, and you don't leave anyone alone.Ever.
And the second they had that, but she's not an experienced hiker.She's going, oh no, go on without me.At that point, they go, no, we have to turn back. We simply have to we're not gonna make it there.We three are one unit.
We're not gonna make it together Yeah, we're turning back.Yeah, I'm sorry.
Sorry was this so then was this like a loop?It wasn't like an out-and-back I it sounds like an out-and-back to me because they would have passed her in that case
You're right And maybe it's it's down one side out the Colorado River, and then they must have gone up a complete go up a different side that took her 13 hours Yeah, well yes probably Sunstroke Sunstroke dude.
Oh absolutely destroyed, and they they left her twice because they get up.They they abandon her there, which is really dumb They get to the bottom they go well We got to keep going they abandoned her again, and then at the top.
They're like well We got to get to our next hotel.They abandoned her three times.Why do you have to get to your next hotel?They're like we gotta go smash a pizza, dude Demolish a pizza?
Honey, you've demolished too many pizzas.
They're really inconsiderate like this is why it's dumb It's like you clearly didn't care that much about bringing this person on your hike
also Getting an uber from somewhere near the Grand Canyon like what juice to your next hotel That's gonna cost more than just booking a new hotel We're in the middle of nowhere Yep, get an uber just wait for her like just just literally wait and be like hey We're not gonna arrive till 10 p.m.. Our friend has fucking heatstroke
Yeah, this is all insane and also the fact that they were on the hike and then they were like Oh, we realized like we gave her guidance and she didn't bring anything It's like before you leave that morning you feel like what's in your pack?
Yeah, what are you bringing?Show us what's in your pack like straight up though?I'm like you guys didn't actually give much of a shit about no, they're like, oh she didn't pack.
Well, here we go.It's like
This is it's mind-blowing to me.I mean like she could have died like straight-up could have died Yeah, this is what could have realistically happened.
They abandoned her She's by herself and she just falls like falls somewhere and she's by herself Like that's what happens like when my brother and I got lost and we were lost for like a whole day I was immediately realizing like it was such a wake-up call for me of like what's actually scary in nature because I was not scared of bears or wolves or
Anything badass I would know you're not you're scared of running out of water.
Well, we did run out of water very falling which was like oh I Since then since getting lost I'm like I'm bringing so much fucking water with me but also I'm like if I just fall and break my ankle and
Yeah, and I'm like and now my brother has to just go on For hours and find someone and then come back and find my exact location is so scary I was like oh, that's that's how you die in the middle of nowhere.
That's why you never leave someone by themselves This is so the Grand Canyon lots of people die in the great.Oh my god.Yeah, what's a hundred degrees?And it's it's it's treacherous.This is maybe the dumbest story.
I've ever read on this I mean everybody was pretty
There's a lot of stupidness, but these experienced hikers Yeah, they should have leaving someone by themselves who they know is an inexperienced hiker is the crazy Sounds like they weren't experienced because if they were they would never leave someone behind sure they trained, but I don't think they're they trained for themselves Yeah, I I don't even know how they they could walk off and be fine with it I bet she I bet she was embarrassed and was like, please go totally and even if it gets to that point it's like
No, but it's just a hard line rule.It's a hard line rule of you.Just don't do that.Yeah, especially Especially these conditions hundred degrees.Yeah, I don't care where you are.
You could be like Anywhere and if it's a hundred degrees, you're not gonna leave someone behind like it's yeah and also like if she was under equipped What did they leave her with?
Yeah, well they they said they didn't until they got back to the hotel room and saw that most of her food was there Most of the water and food was there that they're like.
Oh, she must not have brought anything Didn't they all leave were you not checking on her at all before you left like yeah?I just this is just shocking.
It's just weird just say no to this person like why did yeah any of this they they kind of just seem like they don't give a shit about her at all and
No, because this is their dream to do this hike.They've been training for it, and that's all they cared about.But then say no to this.Not that I'm excusing what they did.Yeah.
But say no to her then.When she's like, can I join the hike?It's two weeks out.It's just like, no.They can't.
It doesn't say their ages It doesn't say their ages.
Yeah, I mean to um early 30s like obviously this wouldn't be the same level but like Imagine imagine if you were like training for a marathon and then like a week before I'm like, yeah, can I join?It would just be like no man mile one.
You're like Yes, you can um, yes join shame Some comments here.
When you were noticing she was eating salad, I would have stopped her immediately.Better yet, don't invite people to go on difficult trails that you don't know are experienced enough to have the long endurance required.
Why not make sure she packed her food and water?So many opportunities here to back out or advise.Since you did invite her and have her as part of your group, you also took on the responsibility of making sure she doesn't die.
Never leave your team on the trail.Take her back up, send her to the hotel, anything except just leave her. You're the asshole.Next time, don't take people with you on potentially deadly hikes.
So true.Someone else said, you're the asshole for trying to do a rim to river and back day hike in June.That's really dangerous.Yeah, the hike itself sounds insane.Yeah.Someone else said, you're the asshole.That's how people die at the Grand Canyon.
You shouldn't have let her come.If you let her come, you don't ever abandon someone like that. I fully agree.
Once you say yes, they are your responsibility.You're fully responsible for them.
They have so many opportunities.I must have done that exact hike in my kids.That must have been a hike that I did.
Must have been the one.Yeah, I did that.I did that barefoot, and it was easy.It was actually pretty easy.
I was six.I climbed and I'm pretty sure it was a hundred degrees when I did it Yeah, which is crazy and like the Colorado River was rising so we had to swim across and I went in fucking Nose-dived in there.
Yeah, I did it.No problem.
Yeah, it's pretty easy fish while I was down there Oh with my teeth.Yeah.Yeah, it was like a hundred and fifty degrees I didn't have any water, but I was fine.
Yeah.So anyways, what's going on with these?Oh
No.They got heatstroke from all that roasting.
Yeah, baby.Straight up.Nice.
I can't believe that dude.
Yeah, that's that is dumb dumb dumb.So dumb.That's why when people are like You know, in Kauai, speaking of Kauai, you know how they put on the rocks, like how many people died in this area?Yeah.That's what they do.
And in attractions, they're like, this is how many tourists have died here.Good luck.They're not because they're just like, don't do dumb things.
But so many people do.And then those like beautiful parts of nature that is Kauai get shut down. And it's just, I don't know.
People underestimate nature.I think hiking especially people underestimate because if you do it right, and most of the time, hikes can feel very chill and very like, oh, how could that be dangerous?That was such a nice day.
But it's like one small thing goes wrong and a hike turns into the deadliest shit you've ever dealt with.
No, when my brother and I got lost, and it started off very dumb, it started off with, our camp is probably down there, so if we cut off the trail here, cut to 12 hours later, us hiking.
You straight up did Donner Party.Dude, actually, it was so dumb, and ever since then, it's like, never.
No.Ego will get you killed on a hike.
All right. Moving on to our next story.Our next story is an old one.Ooh.10-year-old story.But sometimes these old ones are the craziest.
He's going to be talking about watching the Big Bang Theory.
Yeah, I was going to say.OK.We're watching Game of Thrones.This show is always going to be good.Yeah, yeah, yeah. This comes from our relationships.This is a 24 year old man.
My girlfriend who's 21 wants to go on an out of state camping trip alone with another guy who's also 24.OK, hot got it hot.
So I love my girlfriend, and I do trust her, but every girlfriend I've ever had has cheated on me, and I'm terribly insecure about her spending alone time with someone in a situation like this.We've been together for two years now.
I met her my senior year of college because my college town was her hometown.I moved up to her college town to live with her after I graduated, and I found a great job there.
For months, she's been talking about us going to Maine to camp for a week for vacation with one of her best friends, let's call him Kyle, and his girlfriend.
I've never met Kyle since my girlfriend lives two hours from him now, but she was very open with me when I asked her about him.He's been one of her closest friends since middle school.
They liked each other for a bit through the years, and the summer after she graduated high school, she had sex with him, but it never went anywhere because she was going to school and he ended up meeting this girl, his current girlfriend, let's call her Anna, soon after.
They've been together since.So I was all down for a couple's trip.Well, recently I found out the week they had planned, I'm being sent out of state for business and can't take it off.
And now Kyle's girlfriend can't go either, so it will just be my girlfriend and Kyle on the coast of Maine, camping and spending alone time together for a week.
I asked her what Anna thinks of this, and she said she's only met Anna a few times, that she knows my girlfriend and her boyfriend had a sexual past, but that it's okay because she trusts him and knows how excited my girlfriend and him are to catch up and see a new state.
I want to tell her no, but I can't be that boyfriend.
It's the only week she has off between summer and fall semester, and she said her friend Kyle is moving to North Carolina for a new job in September, so she will probably not see him for a long, long time.
It wouldn't be fair to expect her to stay home her only week off from school, because I have to go on a business trip either. But I can't help but feel it's unfair to me to run off with an old flame current friend It just seems really off to me.
I've never met this guy I don't know his motives and he's going to be sleeping with my girlfriend and our dog in a tent for a week How do I tell her I don't want to go alone together?Without being controlling douchefuck.Thanks reddit Thanks reddit.
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It's wrong to be like you can't go on this trip.I'm telling you can't go.It's also okay I think for him to say hey I'm letting you know how I'm feeling.
Yeah, I'm feeling really uncomfortable about I think he should you slept with this guy And you guys are about to be in the woods together for a week Yeah, that makes me feel a little weird makes me feel does it not make you feel a little weird.
Yeah, I think if I'm in her position I'm Not going on this trip.
It's also we're talking about you know And this isn't fair because plenty of people who are this age are not gonna do stuff But it's just when you're young like and figuring yourself out and just like they've been dating for like fuck it Let's just they've been dating for two years, but it's just like You know, they're so young and stuff and I just and he's been cheated on before it's just tricky and it's it's scary I
I think like you're talking we're coming from a place of like Relationships that we have a lot more security in yeah, I think but for him.
It's it's it's definitely tricky I think he should be I don't think he's I don't think he's wrong at all for feeling uncomfortable No, no, no like that's no.I don't think he's wrong.
I also wonder if he's not Communicating how he's feeling about this whole situation at all if he's like no no it's fine.Yeah, I'm No, no, it's fine.And so I wonder if she's going along with it because she has no idea how uncomfortable it is.
Exactly.And I think speaking anecdotally about young relationships, when I was younger in relationships, I think what was different was just I was bad at communicating.So I was operating out of a place of nervousness.
And I think that's often the difference when we're reading stories about really young people is They're not communicating as clearly to each other or being as honest because they'll doubt themselves as he's doing.
And so, yeah, I think that's possible that they're just not seeing what this looks like.
Here's my thing.These relationships, it's like you want to trust your partner.Here's a perfect way to start trusting your partner.I don't know.You can't gain trust by being like, don't do it.
Right.No, I do agree with that.I don't know.Because I think like, if he says you can't go, then he's acting on his insecurities.Yes.She's never done anything to him that's ever made him question her loyalty.
So now he's already not trusting her.
Yeah.So like, I think like he just explains, he did explain.He's like, I've been cheated on a bunch before.So he's, he's being very upfront of just like, I feel insecure in this area.And that's totally fair.
He hasn't cheated on him.
Yeah.It's not an ideal scenario.I recognize like, yeah, clearly they were at some point they were attracted to each other and they had sex and it only ended because he met his current girlfriend.
Yeah.It's tricky.It's a tricky situation.
You tell her not to go No, but I would I would have questions like are you guys gonna be sharing a tent?
What I will say cuz I know it is more on the unpopular side.It's not unpopular.
This is just but the perspective on That I know at this stage in life after having been cheated on and stuff of just like if your partner's gonna cheat on you They're gonna cheat on you.So I understand what you're saying of like I
If you cheat on me, then you were gonna do that and all right, this is over.
I get that, but that's also so scary to be like, all right, go off and see if you do that.
I don't think he should be like, go off, I'm strong and you should do, I don't think that, I think he should tell her, he's like, I feel insecure about this, I feel worried about this, I'm worried, I have questions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you know what, if he's saying like, I also think it's okay, especially when you're young, I've said this, of just,
if he's like I'm super uncomfortable and she's like well this is who I am and I want to go on this and I like maybe very different people and Maybe your perspectives on on these types of boundaries and stuff are different and it's okay to break up You're you're you're so young.
That's kind of who cares like if you guys are just not the same types of people.I Understand you've been together for two years.That's probably you don't want to break up you probably care about each other, but I I don't know.
I've said it a lot of like when you're really young and if you feel like who you're with is you're not seeing eye to eye.Now that's after communicating and talking about it.Right.Talk about it.Make sure you're not on the same page.
But if you talk about it clearly and then you're not on the same page. It's okay to be like, maybe this isn't for us.That's totally fine.Some comments here.Tell her you don't feel comfortable with her going alone with a guy.
Make it about your feelings, not about her cheating.Opie responded, I tried this at first.She just brushed it off kinda.I've known him most of my life.We've had these plans for months.
Just because you can't come suddenly doesn't mean I should rearrange my plans for my only week off for you when you won't be around anyways.I want to go hiking and see the cliffs and coasts, not to elope with a good friend.
Yep, that's probably exactly what she's thinking.
Someone said, I don't know what you should do, but you are not alone in thinking this is shifty and weird.I too would feel extremely uncomfortable with this situation. Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking.
Like we said, they're going out alone and it's probably about as bad as it can get.
I'm trying to think of scenarios worse than this.And I hear a week and I'm like, whew.A week is also- A week is a long time.A week is a long camping trip.
Yeah.A week in a tent?My God.Fuck.Oh, they will be.
Yeah, just to make sure, just to see, do they still have it?I'm just kidding.Update?
Let's go So I was overwhelmed with responses.Thanks everyone for the help I decided to talk to her about my feelings and see how she dealt with them Telling her she needed to make it a group trip and not share a tent alone with him.
Here's how it went So she comes home, and she's so excited to show me the new climbing gear she bought for the trip.Great.I tell her we need to talk about the trip and Kyle, and she looks a little worried.
I preface the conversation asking more about her and Kyle's relationship.From what I gathered, they're closer than I thought, yet this actually reassures me.She was his rock when his dad died, and he was hers when her best friend committed suicide.
He has a trauma bond.He has a place in her heart as a lifelong friend that no one else can fill and I have one in hers as a lifelong partner that no one else can either.I have to suck it up and live with that.
She seems to really like Anna and Kyle apparently really likes me from their talks.
They're happy the other found a great person and realized they weren't compatible anyways and only tried it out out of loneliness, a loneliness thing after both losing important people.I can live with that.
So I tell her I know it's impractical but I don't want her sharing a tent with him. She says that's fine, completely reasonable for me to ask, and just wants to make me comfortable.She says she can try and pack lighter in other aspects.Cool.
So then I tell her the trip itself makes me uncomfortable, and why doesn't she invite someone else?She mentions that's okay, she can invite her friend Allie, who just got back from Colorado.
They can just bring the four-person tent again for them and the dog if Allie wants to go.Oh, but Allie's a very hot, very promiscuous lesbian and was my girlfriend's first sexual encounter.
You know what?You know what?This man should be counting his lucky stars.His girlfriend sounds awesome.
Wait, I have my other best friend, Chris Hemsworth.He comes in, where are we camping?
It's fine.I'll invite my other friend, Fuck Fuckley. Doctor fuck fuck.
Oh, he's a doctor.Yeah, he makes money any single.This is my other friend Cassian from Akita I just finished the book Don't even bring up his name contain yourself I can't
Hmm.Nope.Anyone else?Oh, yeah, her friend Taylor maybe but she'd be kind of a drag.
Oh, that's okay You used to hook up with Taylor too at this point I realized it boils down to the fact that I am jealous and I don't want my girlfriend alone with anyone who is attracted to her not because I don't trust her but because I have this fucked up mentality that I have to prove myself and be there to claim her or something
If I want this relationship to work, I have to force myself to get over that.This trip will help.So I tell her that, and she insists she doesn't have to go if I'm really that insecure.We can take baby steps and work on it together.
No, I say, I want you to go.Enjoy your only week off.You earned it. So we decided we are going to drive down there next week into Kyle's.We're going to all hang out and properly meet, eat some dinner, drink some beers, play cards against humanity.
Then Kyle and I will go out to the bars and get to know each other, and she and Anna will do whatever they want to do.If I don't like him, I tell her and we call it off. I think this will really help and make me comfortable.
In the end, my girlfriend's sexual past makes me uncomfortable, but I'm sure mine from my fraternity days scares the shit out of her too.But just like I only have eyes for her now, I know it's the same.
She's still not going to sleep in the same tent as him and said she can probably rent some single tents from the University Outdoors Club.Way cool.
You guys were all divided on whether to ask her to stay or let her go, but I think we found a good compromise to make us all feel better and still let her go. OK, I mean, hey, look, he made his decision.
We don't have another update, so we don't know what happened.
I will say I'm proud that he came to that on his own.He literally had to verbally talk it out.Yeah.And then it's it's kind of what we said in the beginning.He's going to let her go because he has to move on from this stuff.
I think. Okay, I will say, maybe I'm wrong for this, but I think it was a little crazy that they were planning on sharing a tent before he asked.
I kind of agree.It's like, we don't have to share a tent.It's like, you were gonna share a tent?Get your own tent.
I've never had this type of situation.I've never, so for me, this is all hypothetical.I'm very curious what our commenters will think, what they would do in this type of situation.So let us know.
Move on to our next story. This comes from Relationships.I, a 29-year-old woman, am traveling overseas to meet my online boyfriend, a 38-year-old man, in a week.He just said he had to cancel.
Yeah, because he's 65 and his name is Bob.
And he lives in Carolina.
Bob, come on, we gotta go.He's like, I'm meeting my girlfriend.Sorry.
I met someone online through our pen pals about five months ago.It started off getting to know each other and it turns out we had a lot in common and we were really compatible.I think it's safe to say we fell for each other.
It quickly turned intense, and we shared every single intimate detail about each other.We both were in serious relationships that fell through, but some time had gone by for us.
My seven-year relationship ended about ten months ago, five months before we met, and his four-year relationship ended four months before we met.
We text all day, every day, and FaceTime for two to three hours every night, save for maybe one or two nights a week. He lives in Ireland.I live in the U.S.I found an incredibly priced flight to visit him.We were both so excited and maybe a bit rash.
I booked the flight only after two months of knowing him.He told his family about me, shared photos of his family, and we planned all that I'm going to do and see with him.
At 5.30 this morning, I received a video message and a long text that his ex-girlfriend was in a serious car accident and that he would have to cancel.I begged him not to, and I am trying to be supportive of what he is going through.
So far, at most, I've only gotten that he will try, that he needs to sort this out.I'm freaking out that in seven days, I will be in a country where I don't know anyone.Do I cancel the flight?
I've been telling my friends about going on a trip, not really saying that I'm meeting someone.I have no idea what to do now.I feel sick.I feel like a fool.I feel like everything he said to me was a lie.What should I do?Okay.
I mean, I think this is the perfect opportunity to do a solo trip.I mean, Ireland? Plenty of green grass.Yeah, you know check out the Guinness factory It's a lovely day for a Guinness.
Yeah, I mean like I've never been to Ireland I I think like go make a solo trip out of it.
Fuck that guy Yeah, also like if he is telling the truth about his ex-girlfriend getting in a car accident, that's really scary and sad Yeah, it could be real.I mean I
I'm a little suspicious.I I don't know.You know, they did say that they did say they're a face timing Yeah, so he's a real person a real person.
Yeah, we know that but he just always has a filter The problem is when you're I mean, I've never been in a long-distance relationship.So I'm
Not experienced in this so a lot of them work out in a real, but I it's just there's also the element of like you You don't know him in person is what he's telling you the truth, right?There's the possibility here.
I think she should go on this trip.
Absolutely, but not plan to not care if she sees him Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of stuff to do in Ireland.
Enjoy the how soon is how
That in seven days so she has seven days until or or or she could cancel it and save for when things Calm down a little bit and not spend all I think if she can get her money back if she can get her money back Yeah, get her money back.
I would cancel because don't go on a solo trip, but like cancel this and then plan a trip Okay comments
I'll be honest, his ex-girlfriend being in a car crash a week before you come over shouldn't affect his ability to make time for you, even if he was to go out and see her.
From what I've seen of people in online relationships, there is often one party that bails approaching a meet-up date as things are suddenly to become real.This is a big possibility, but I'm not saying it's definitely the case.
I definitely wouldn't cancel unless you can get a refund.You could use this time to explore the country by yourself and turn it into a good, empowering experience.
Yeah, eat, pray, love in Ireland.
Someone else said everything he said likely was a lie since this is a classic catfish line.Just because someone can FaceTime you doesn't mean every other thing about them isn't bullshit.I'm sorry this happened.
I'd still take the trip and have an excellent time find things that interest you and go slash just go do and see them It's an awesome opportunity to see the world and I wouldn't pass it up just because the opportunity came from a shitty situation originally If he's lying about all of it, and it's like she's facetiming him.
He's just like oh, yes.I'm here in Dublin She's like my Irish boyfriend Yes, I'm drinking again.I think that's all he does yeah, I'm eating lucky charms Like no that guy's from Kentucky Yeah, he's like look.
I'm really sorry Fucking leprechaun hat on stop.
Yeah, do they even have lucky charms in Ireland probably not probably if there's like they have like specialty He's going off the only things he knows like I'm doing you like is watching train spotting.He's like heroin Now that's gone.Oh, that's
Yeah, he gets it wrong.She's like wait.That's Scotland.
He's just like He's like Bob come upstairs.He's like okay, honey.
He's just saying quotes from Banshees of in a Sharon yeah She watches the movie.She's like that's all hold on Okay Update yeah The guy was Barry Keegan
Oh my God.I mean, that'd be pretty.
He's single now.What?Him and Sabrina broke up.Uh-oh.She's touring and she can't with him right now.
Wow, never could have thought that would happen.So people are like, so what happened with that boyfriend?She's like, he's sort of not a real person.Jesus. Sorry, I had to.All right.
After my post, I FaceTimed him to say what I wanted to say and end things.He tried to get me to postpone my trip and even tried to give me money to make me less mad at him.I told him whatever we had was over as I could no longer trust him.
He cried, which made me feel weird.I wished him and his ex the best and ended the call.I went on my trip and had a top-class time.The Reddit community really astounds me sometimes.
I received a lot of private messages of suggestions of things to do and see, and the trip to Ireland became a trip of a lifetime.
In Dublin, I did meet up with a very kind Redditor who showed me around the city and came with me to a bunch of museums during my stay.I saw amazing sights, met a bunch of really cool people through my travels, and met a few really cute Irish boys.
There we go.I was gonna say she could meet her own boyfriend there.Exactly.
I learned a lot about myself on my first solo trip abroad.I am pretty self-reliant and I did a lot of self-reflection.This relationship was my first serious one after my ex and I split up.
I think in my desire for closeness with someone I ignored a lot of red flags and downplayed my self-worth.
I am now focusing on making real connections with people I meet in real life and have decided to stay away from anything long-distance indefinitely. My first night in Belfast, I messaged him after I had what was probably too many beers.
Damn you delicious Irish beers.And he said he was sorry, but it was what it had to be.It didn't really seem sincere, and it extinguished any romantic notions I had.Thank you to everyone who commented and private messaged me.
It really made me excited for my trip, and it was the best time.
Oh, that is the best story ever.
That ended up being the best story so far, yeah.
Good for her, I didn't realize she was gonna immediately just cut it off.
Yeah, that was extreme, but hey.There might've been other details that might've all added up in her head, and she was like, I need to end this.Good for her.Good for her, I'm jealous of her.
I really wanna go, because I've heard Guinness in Ireland is great.
It is amazing.It tastes so good.And the Guinness factory has this bar at the top that you can see the whole fucking city of Dublin. It is really cool.
Do you want to come with me next time I go?
Yeah, I mean, I won't tell you yeah, I'm gonna be there.
Yeah, I'm not gonna tell you though.Hey, this Guinness place pretty cool, right?
Also to all of our to all of our Irish viewers.I'm sorry for my accent.I'm not sorry.Yeah, I will.
I will.I'm sorry.Okay, that wasn't class of you. That's what they say.
I gotta watch Dairy Girls.Oh, yeah.I need to watch that.I need to watch that.Then I'm gonna come back with a sick accent.Just such a good accent.Yeah.
Okay, it is time for our last story and it comes from Am I the Asshole?Am I the asshole for leaving a couple's trip in the middle of the night and ruining the vibe?
Oh no, the vibe's been ruined.
Leaving a couple's trip in the middle of the night.I mean, ruining a vibe.
You ruined the vibe.Oh, nah, dude.The vibe must stay.You gotta keep the vibe intact.Yeah.
All right.This is a 26-year-old guy. rented a sick house on the water, and invited all our friends.Her sister slash husband, my friends slash their SOs, and a few of Kenzie's friends all arrived Thursday night.
It was awesome, and I was stoked for the weekend.We met through my best childhood friend, Grace, who's 26.Grace and Kenzie were college friends, and I never thought I had a chance.
Kenzie is beautiful, and while I'm not ugly, I've always felt like we weren't in the same league.No idea how I got her, and I still don't. Thursday night went well.Friday, we swam and hung out at the house most of the day.
We started drinking and playing games at night.Kenzie's sister broke out this couples game.Basically, you pick one person in the relationship that fits the description or it has prompts to engage in debates between couples.
Kenzie was pretty drunk by now because she's a lightweight and was drinking most of the night.It was fun until a question of what originally attracted you to your SO came up.Kenzie blurted out, he was safe and I knew he wouldn't cheat or leave me.
You know, I think the vibe got ruined.The vibe has been broken.The vibe has been shattered.I looked at her with a face and was like, huh?She then says, yeah, you seemed nice enough.And after my abusive ex, I wanted a safer option.
Things got really awkward, and her sister quickly read a different card.I was really embarrassed and flustered, so I said I had to pee and walked outside.I called Grace to tell her what happened.She was working and couldn't come, and she got upset.
I told her I wanted to leave.She said I didn't need to take that, and she would be there in the morning to get me. The night died down and Kenzie tried talking to me in front of everyone, but I told her we'd talk about it another time.
I decided to pack my bags and sleep on the couch.And before anyone woke up, I left.I texted Kenzie and told her that I didn't want to fight about what happened and ruin everyone's trip.
So I was going home for the weekend and we could talk whenever she got home. She blew my phone up all Saturday, as did a few of my friends.I decided to go golfing and just turn my phone off.I just didn't want to talk to anyone.
When Kenzie showed up at my place Sunday, she was fuming, saying that me leaving early ruined the whole trip.It was all anyone could talk about.And the whole vibe felt off because the birthday boy was gone.
That she felt like a piece of shit and I didn't give her a chance to explain. and she hardly even remembers what she said to begin with.She rented a boat, I love boating, and felt like I disrespected her efforts slash money to put together the trip.
I told her that I didn't feel like arguing, so I went home to avoid the drama.Some said that it was an asshole move to just bail, and I should have stayed because she put a ton of effort into the trip.Am I the asshole?
Yeah, I mean, he's kind of on some baby shit.It really sucks.
There's no doubt, his feelings were obviously hurt.Yeah, rightfully so.Yeah, I mean, that sucks to hear.
But you're gonna leave the whole weekend, all your friends took off time to be there for you.
You're punishing a lot of people for what your girlfriend's like.
Grace, hey girl, don't get involved like that.
I think, I mean, at the end of the day, I think he felt, so embarrassed in front of all his friends that he couldn't stand to be around him because he's probably thinking in his head, they're all judging me for this and I just need to leave.
And so I don't think he realized that when you just dip out on something like that, your absence will be all people are gonna talk about.And that's gonna make everything way worse.
So much worse.It's the most dramatic move you can make. Yeah, and to say like, oh, I just wanted to leave to not cause drama.I'm like you wanted to cause some drama.
You caused so much drama.
Maybe he wasn't thinking.He was in his feelings.
He did it.Yeah, he was probably in his feelings.He did what he felt he needed to do to feel better.He went golfing.I'm sure that was... nice for him, but when you're thinking long game with your friends, doing that is kind of a dramatic thing.
I don't blame him for wanting to leave, but I think it would have been a much better idea for him to work it out there.And also, if he didn't leave, everyone would have forgot about that.
They would have been like, ooh, awkward.They'll figure it out, but I don't like him less.
But now it's like, why has he gone?Oh yeah, because he was the safe option.And that's what caused this whole thing.
It doesn't help your cause.Here's what I would have done.Your partner says, oh yeah, you were the safe option, whatever.It's like, I'd be like, okay, yeah, for sure.Everyone goes to bed that night.She wakes up.What's that sound?
They go out to the lake.I'm on a jet ski. I hit a huge ramp.I land on the ground, skid onto the beach, slide it.I'm wearing a leather jacket, nothing else.
And you're backwards on it.Your hands are on the back.
I'm backwards on a jet ski.I land.They're like, holy shit, dude.You could have died.That's so dangerous.I'm like, you're right. It is dangerous.
It's dangerous.That was my plan all along.
Guess I'm not the safe choice.
Guess I'm not that safe, am I, babe?And she's like, oh my God, you're right.She hops into my arms, we get back on the jet ski.
Right off into the sunset.
Wait, just a leather jacket?
Just a leather jacket.Winnie the poohing it.
Not very safe!Not safe, no.No, no, no!Especially on the woods, all those twigs.
All of a sudden, they're going like, wow, this dick's out.
You know, I was thinking the whole time.Not very safe.
The whole time, I was thinking, like, this is the perfect setup for a slasher movie.
Yeah On the road heading home they get murdered and then something's on its way to the cabin Here's what I thought he could have done or should go other than like get murdered on the way back but like he should have just Woken up and left for the day like the morning done his own thing in the morning written a note and being like oh
Hey, I just need to do some time and then come back after he cooled down not like leave fully Yeah, I would be really upset with him as well.
He also turned off his phone They didn't know it been unsafe.It's true.It's true.It's just it was all you know, I I felt like what I think comes across.
It comes across childish.It was really inappropriate what his girlfriend said to him.Absolutely.Yeah.But what you do is you pull her aside the next day and you go, hey, that was so disrespectful, so mean.
I felt awful.And also, do you still feel that way about me?Because if you do, like that changes my perspective on our relationship.Like have that serious convo.And then if you're there, you could also talk to your friends that night and be like,
I can't believe she said that to me.Like you could like talk to some of your friends too and get their perspectives.And then they'd all probably be on your side and be like, yeah.And I don't know, this could have been handled.
And then we send her packing.
Yeah, get out of here.Here's the tricky thing, guys, is that she was in a really abusive relationship from what he said.And her first initial thought was, okay, this guy's safe, which I know is such a buzzkill.
There's a nicer way to say it.
There's such a nicer way to say it, but she was wasted Yeah, it's it's no she fucked up.She definitely fucked up definitely fucked up.
It's it's definitely uh I will say like because I don't know if he later gets clarification from her but like right drunk words are sober thoughts like absolutely really are but Also think we don't speak well when we're drunk.
No, so it could also be like yes.
Sorry you I viewed you as safe I viewed you as like someone who actually gave a shit about like think about maybe there's maybe some better Aspects to her point of view that we're not getting because she was so drunk right like think about like this is this is saying the same thing and
He was a safe choice, and he makes me feel safe.Yes.It's the same thing.And it has me wondering.So true.One is incredibly disrespectful.So true.And one is a really sweet thing to say.
Even in her wording, it's like, I knew he wouldn't cheat on me.It's like, OK, that is actually a good reason for wanting to date someone.That's not bad.
But the way she said it is such a bummer.
Oh, absolutely.No, it hurt.Reading that part, like, hurts. But then he just continues to dig a hole for himself after that.And feeling awful is okay, but there's just other actions you can take.
I think you were right.I think he was embarrassed to show his face to his friends.
Yeah.And it is embarrassing.It's really embarrassing.
Comments well the verdict was asshole Okay, comments feels like you you massively overreacted that may be the truth for the beginning But no one stays for that reason for two years and certainly wouldn't splash all that cash and spend all that time and effort Organizing such a lovely weekend for you unless the emotions were true and deep you are not the rebound after an abusive relationship The rebound would have lasted a couple of weeks.
That's not to say it was hurtful but if you care about her work to make it right and I think that's very true.Yeah, we're are we also the question was your first impression Exactly first impressions can be fucking wild and they're crazy.
Yeah So much she did this whole weekend for him.He loves to boat and he couldn't even get on the boat.I know
No, so sad Someone said you're the asshole you'd seriously bail on a birthday weekend in front of all your mutual friends because two years earlier She felt you were a safe option.
It seemed to work out She went all out for you for your birthday if you bailed over something so seemingly ridiculous What would you do when you when you face actual tough times together?You won't discuss it.You'll just run away.Yep.
Absolutely No, this is a huge red flag.It's like What she said is it's like I said, I'm like, oh, that would hurt me.But it is minuscule compared to what a lot of couples go through at some point.And it's like he kind of showed himself there.
And it is a scary thing.Bailing.
It's a hard thing to get over, you know, especially if she went through a bad relationship before She's seeing this and probably gonna be like, oh well Yeah, and yeah, and he left her I what I do think about that one comment is true Is that well you left her there alone with all the friends and they have nothing to talk about but you who are is gone and ghosted and not responding so
You probably damaged your relationship with everyone.Shit's about to get talked.I mean, look, I think in relationships, the response is to communicate, always.And he chose to do the polar opposite of it.
And I just, it's not always that I think you're wrong or you're bad.I just think it's going to make things worse.
It's legitimately like self-sabotage.Totally.Because he's clearly extremely insecure about this whole thing and his choice is to run away.
I wonder if in his head he thought he was going to do this and everyone was going to feel so bad and be like, oh my God, this poor guy.
Oh my God, this poor guy.
He's such a hero.In fact, he's not safe.He's so dangerous for leaving.
You can't do that.What a risk taker. Because when your brain tells you to do things like that, the result is never gonna be what your brain thinks it's gonna be.You just need to communicate.Well.
You on a jet ski in just a leather coat, is something.Just a leather jacket.
But you gotta admit, you gotta admit, had he done that, the situation would be better than where it's at now.
Tell me the situation would not be better.
If he hits a wave, And he's sitting on that craft.That's not dangerous.
That's right.It's not safe.Watercraft.They wake up the next morning.It's like his balls have exploded.Yeah, dude, that's not good.
He's safe and he doesn't have balls.
Also, do you drape like one ball?Like, do you drape one ball to one side, one ball to the other side of the thing that you're on?
Oh my God, he's ball-less and safe.
Do you suck them up before you get on it?
I have a lot of questions about naked jet skiing.Look, I've never jet skied before.
Dude, you're such a everyone in this room just lost their mind.I didn't I just stared at you.I've got no I've never jet skied.I'm not.
It's a blast and also terrifying.
Sure, never jet skied.Do you want to?Yeah, sure, I'll just get out there buddy.I just never had the opportunity.
Jet skis like one of those things where it's like you're on your like oh my God, I'm having so much fun and then after like 15 minutes you're like. It's the same thing.
Oh We never I've hardly spent time at lakes, okay fair.I mean you can jet ski in the ocean I know but like when we would go to the ocean we were like scuba diving or like yeah, we're clean and stuff We never we weren't like a jet ski family.
Yeah, we gotta take you to a lake for your birthday.
You wanna go on your birthday?Buddy, you wanna go to your birthday?
Let's go to this.Let's go where they went.
I did jet skiing up at Big Bear.We can go to Big Bear.On the mountain?You wanna go to Big Bear?I've been jet skiing for so long.Yeah, there's a lake.
There's a lake at Big Bear Lake.
Whoa, someone hasn't traveled, am I right?
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