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All right, everybody, this is Gilmore Girls Gazette, Bunhead's edition with Amy and Danielle.
You have such a pleasing voice.It's so different than my, like, terrible voice.Goodness.So pleasing.
Best compliment I've ever had in my life.
And I also have this cold.I don't know.I think it's a cold. I don't think it was anything else, but I sound crazy.I'm just coughing.I'm sorry for anyone else.It's experiencing whatever's going around.It's super bad.
Well, you sound good and you look great.
And with your Halloween sweater.Yeah, I'm wearing a jack-o'-lantern sweatshirt and my pants have pumpkins.Cute.I love that.Happy Halloween.Okay, so this is our
I don't know if we'll call it a rewatch, review, recap of Bunheads, but this is really where we're at on it.We're watching Bunheads in the Gilmore Girls, like what we care about with... Lens.Yes, lens.Oh my gosh, Danielle.That is the perfect word.
Thank you.We're gonna analyze it. in Gilmore Girls, like people from Gilmore Girls.Does it feel Gilmore Girls-y?Do we like it?Like, we're not necessarily gonna go scene by scene.Like, we'll call out things.
If you really want scene by scene, you can, you know, what do the kids do?Message us.But I don't think you do.I think you just wanna, yeah.But here's what I'll say.This show premiered in 2012.I remember when Bunheads premiered.
I think it was ABC Family. And I remember like jonesing for it because I was missing Gilmore Girls so much.So I was super stoked to watch something Gilmore Girls-y.Yeah, so Gilmore Girls ended in 2007.
So this is eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, five years later. And I was like, and I don't remember anything in between that was Gilmore Girls-y.So I was super stoked.
And what I'll say is like, it doesn't disappoint in the sense that it does feel Gilmore Girls-y.Did you, did you feel that?
Yeah, it kind of stressed me out.I'm not gonna lie because- Really?Yeah, I got stressed because I have the Gilmore Girls characters, but they're outside of Kelly Bishop, Emily slash Fanny,
yeah that kind of had a silver thread like they they were very similar characters but like like rose rose was jarring i was like i mean i want i want gypsy i get it okay like snooty woman of the town, you know, like I said, it just stressed me out.
But I will say it was entertaining.It was entertaining.And the one thing I will say that also kind of jarred me was. having Emily there and she, you know, she's doing what she does.She's not Emily.I know.She's not Emily.And that's not Lorelai.
So that was like kind of hard for me to adjust to.I also think I'm doing this so quickly after seeing.Yeah, I was going to say that.Girls that like maybe five years with the buffer in between would have maybe it wouldn't have been as jarring.
Five years.I mean, it was five years. And I wasn't like I wanted something Gilmore Girls esque.And I definitely get that in this show.I mean, right from the start, they're talking a mile a minute, like immediately you're like, oh, here we go.
And I think does it start with them on the Vegas stage?
Yeah, it starts with her, like with Michelle, who is Sutton performing in Vegas.
And immediately they're kind of talking and you're like, this is this feels Gilmore girly.So we're gonna talk about in broad strokes.I remember watching it and immediately liking it.Like, I was like, this is good.
It's not Gilmore Girls, but there's something I'm really drawn to here.It's a little over the top.Do you know what I mean?
Like, it's a little, like, there's moments in Gilmore Girls that are over the top, but this, I think maybe has a bit more of that.I don't know.Like, something is not Gilmore Girls-y, but yet I still enjoy it. I love the girls.
The young girls feel very cool to me.They're not over the top.
Very chiltin just in ballet school.
Yeah, I was very drawn to the girls, right?I was like, okay, I'm into this.You know, I was doing that guy a lot because Hubble, for me, what did you think of when you first see Hubble?
The whole Huffle storyline was weird.I'm like, so this girl does not love this guy, but is tired of her life.And the guy's just like, I'm going to propose to you and I want you to marry me because I know I love you and I know I am good for you.
And I know one day you will love me, too.So come away with me to my home that I live with with my mother and who is obsessed with creepy clown crap.And here we go.Let's get married. And then let's have sex during the party.
That makes the show not sound quite as good as I liked it.So I see Hubble and what I see is Cameron Frye from Ferris Bueller immediately.I'm like, that's Cameron Frye.And then I was like, that's the dude on the bus in speed.
So in speed, there's a scene and it's obvious.And when I saw speed, I was like, that's Cameron Frye.So and now people that watch it are like, that's the dude from Succession.But in 2012, did you say 2012 or 2012?2012, yeah, 2012.
Great movie, by the way, John Cusack.Oh, shout out.OK, so I was like, that's the dude from the bus on Speed, where he's like, I've already been to the airport.If you haven't seen Speed, you've got to watch it, because Alan Rock.
So that was what was going through my mind.Now, I will say, as weird, in quotes, as Hubble is, somehow, throughout the 44 minutes of this show, I became so invested in Hubble that I shed real tears at the end of the episode back then and now.
So this is only my second time watching Bunheads.I watched it on TV and now I'm watching it again.And I knew what happened and I fully cried.Were you like, look, we're not going scene by scene.So were you shocked at the end?
Yeah, I was kind of like, Because there's that lady.Oh, my God.What was her character's name?
Truly.Truly.And she's from Gilmore Girls, too.She was in the movies or whatever.I think she was in the movies.
Yeah.I was like, oh, here comes the crazy girl.I was just going to be crying over the fact that, you know, Sutton Foster's marrying her old flame.And then she said that he.Seemingly died in a car crash, and I was just like, oh, what?
What's interesting is like I get it because now, like, as Scott would say, we're off to the races, right?Like now we have a show, right?Because it's like, oh, what happens now?I still think we would have had a show with Hubble alive.
Yeah, I wanted him, can I have one more episode with him?Just one more, at least.
Like, it was so- Did I need all the sadness?But, I don't know.
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So it's kind of like one of Amy's, Amy Sherman Palladino's, like magical things is you really get the show from the pilot, right?It's like we know here's Emily, who now we're gonna call Fanny, Kelly Bishop.
and that she was her son.Miss Patty in my head.I was like, yes, very Miss Patty.Very Miss Patty with an twist.
And I think Kelly Bishop has a dance background, too.
So obviously you can tell she I was like, she was doing those moves.
Beautifully.She's legit.So you get that there's obviously this super close relationship with her and her son.They live together in this sort of quirky town of paradise, which I think was filmed in Hermosa Beach, but it's not a quirky enough.
I thought it was Hermosa Beach too.
Yeah, I would have preferred a town like Stars Hollow where it was on a set.It seemed too Hermosa Beachy for me.I'm like, this isn't a quirky little town, but anyway, with no movie theater.
We get that, we really start to learn about the young girls, right?That Sasha's the best dancer, but kind of the edgy one.And then Boo, we like get really used to Boo.And we meet all the girls and we start to kind of be invested in them.
And then we kind of meet the wacky town people like Truly and Rose's character, which was weird.She worked at the shop with Truly. But whatever, we're starting to get everybody in the pilot.It's like we've met everybody.We get it.
This is kind of Gilmorey.And now we've got this sort of messy situation of what's going to happen.Right.Little shout out to Glee piano player who also was in Gilmore Girls, Brad Ellis.I was immediately like, oh, my God.And did you see Gary Gennetti?
Gary was brilliant.We love Gary.So Gary Gennetti is married to Brad Goreski, who is one of our besties.We love Brad.
We love Brad.And I had no idea that Brad I just thought Brad's married to this great guy, right?Little did I know that Gary Gennady is like a brilliant writer.Like family, family guy.No idea.I just thought it was Brad's husband.
I'm like, I remember texting Brad one day being like, Oh, your husband's like brilliant.And he's like, you didn't know.And I'm like, no idea.I had no idea.Like a super cute guy named Gary.I'm like, I don't know.Anyway.So overall, what is your like,
You do not like it.When I was watching it, you know what I said to myself that and I wrote it down so that I can repeat it.I was like, this feels very trying to blend the worlds of sex in the city and Gilmore Girls.
You don't feel that way?Get any sex in the city from it.I love sex in the city.
Well, I'm not getting that.I've seen a few episodes of Sex in the City.But what I mean by that is Sutton Foster was very much like, oh, you got a date, you got to do this.I'm going to drink, you know, I whatever.I'm trying to be a career woman.
But do I follow the guy who you know?I don't know.It felt like very like trying to like pull from these what you're really saying.
I don't know when you watch more in the city that has a totally different tone to me this does have a Gilmore tone and and it also has a nasal tone like if you haven't seen it and obviously that came later, but there's like you feel.
This is familiar right the way this show is and it's. over the top.
It's like what did you think of the dance scene in the bar when Kelly Bishop and Sutton Foster are like dancing and then they like grab the guy and then she's like you at the bar and then suddenly it's like, oh my God, they're doing twists and kicks and it's just.
I didn't mind it because I felt like that's how the show started.It's not like it was this random scene in the middle of the episode.It felt very like performative throughout.
So what did you think of hubble and michelle right she's obviously blows him off he comes to see her all the time he brings her gifts.
It's not creepy though but with a hint of creepy it's like yeah it's like you don't you can tell he like genuinely likes the girl but it's weird because. from what you from what we've gathered, she hasn't spent much time with him.
So how can he love her so much outside of what he sees on stage?Right.So, like, that's just kind of a little bit weird.
I think they do spend time like I think he's been coming for a while, but then they go to that sweet dinner and she's all drunk.Right.Because she's bummed about her audition.I mean, her audition for Chicago.What was she auditioning for Chicago?
So she's all drunk, but you realize, like, he's not creepy.Like, that's when you start to realize, like, yeah, he's not.Oh my God, this guy's awesome.And you kind of start to think, like, oh, they do get along.
Like, they're talking and it's, it's not so crazy, but she's so drunk and then suddenly they're married. And you're like, whoa, okay, she's just in the Volvo with him heading back to California.Paradise.Sort of bizarre.
And then the scene for me where I'm like, okay, I'm in is when during the first of all, during the party when he just shuts it down and you're like, oh my God, this guy's like a baller and he kind of runs this town, right? These people.
Yeah, but even even Emily just calling them out, being like, you had sex during this party, like just like called it.I was laughing.I could not stop laughing.And then Hubble just shutting it down right after that.I was like, oh, shoot.Let's go.
This was I agree with you.That scene.
I was like, oh, yeah, you called her Emily, which is fine.You can just call her.Sorry.It's you guys are going to hear that.Sorry, guys.It's totally fine.Danny.
But I love when they, when he goes upstairs, I think, I think what happens is she's sitting there staring at the view and he comes upstairs and they have that real moment together where he's like, I know you don't love me.
And he says, like, I'm going to do this for you.Like, I know what you want and I know what you need and I'm going to provide you that.And in my head, I go. Great speech.And then she says, great speech.
And she also said that she's never loved somebody, which is why, you know, so you start to understand her a little bit more, too.
And they kiss and then they sleep together, you know, allude to that, which makes it all the more like devastating when truly comes into the bar and he's died.And it's such a twist.It's like you're like, I was not expecting that.
Yeah, but I'm but I'm hooked.I'm crying and I'm hooked.Right.It's like there's something about the way these people do these shows.Amy Sherman Palladino does these shows that you're like, oh, I'm totally invested.OK, I'm invested.
Yeah, I'm invested in the girls.Somehow these four main girls, I'm I'm I'm in boo.
I'm like boo.I want boo to get that audition and like, you know, right.
And you kind of want to know what Sasha's damage is.You're like, what's going on, Sasha?Like, You know, even the dance scene where she's teaching them the dance and she's like, Pony, Pony, like somehow that's like enjoyable.
And the way Kelly Bishop's looking at her through the doorway and she's kind of impressed and sort of smiling.And I don't know, the whole thing, it's like, it's not Gilmore Girls, but it's enough Gilmore Girls-y that I'm like, all right, I'm in.
And I remember it like giving me the fix I needed at the time. Yeah.Oh, okay.And it's edgy, right?Like, you know, it's not, it's not super vanilla.
Like it's, there's a little edge and there's, they talk about sex and the girls are kind of having, there's some adult undertones to it.You know, you're like, okay.For ABC Family at the time, I kind of was like, oh, this is kind of cool.
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I thoroughly enjoyed it and I'm excited for episode two.I'm excited to see what happens if if Sutton's character, Michelle, stays at the house with the mother.Well, now really her mother-in-law and see that relationship build with.
Also, I I also feel like Michelle is going to be a part of this dance academy, you know, like she is so good at it.And I think she's finding her calling with that instead of being the showgirl.
She's teaching, you know, the girls how to be confident, which I feel like is something that she's kind of lacking, which is. a little, you know, a little bit ironic.
But yeah, I think that it's, I was pleasantly surprised, because I didn't really have any expectations going into it.
But yeah, it is, I would say, it is hard for me, even throughout this whole episode, I keep saying Emily and Gypsy, and you know, that's hard.
Sort of coming that you'll get, you'll be like, oh my God.And that's kind of how we're gonna watch it, right?For the Gilmore Girls.
Ask of it yeah i like the show it's not kill more girls but i like it and i remember being really bad because obviously like we know there's like eighteen episodes and it got cancelled i remember being really bad because i wanted to see what happened and i think.
Fritix really liked it or at the time, I think it finds its way even more as the season goes along.And I think it was kind of one of those shows that was on the fence.Like I thought it was gonna get another season.
So anyway, we might as well rate it.I think we should give it a rating.
I'll rate it seven out of 10 bad glasses of wine.
Oh, that was funny.First of all, it was funny also when, I think he sort of stops the party and says, yada, yada, yada.And Truly's like, isn't he perfect?Or something like that.Actually, I want a few giggles out loud.
Truly's great.I hope there's more with Truly.
I think I'm gonna give it eight CDs.First of all, it was real great to see the boom box with the CDs, because I'm like, yeah.And it feels like they're in,
Carmel or Big Sur like that's why it was sort of so jarring when they film that the shot the stress shop scene and her most because I'm like this isn't LA like I would say every shot of the coast on a weird little.
town off the one yeah every shop prior to that was like oh this is cute little town and then you see it was i couldn't decide if it was hermosa or manhattan beach but it's definitely that like pier avenue street that like you know all the shops are lined up on and like oh that doesn't feel so small towny weird you know i decided to do that because it was that that was not the small town
feel like I really think this is a small town.So anyway, that was my only critique.I remember feeling like it actually is a little racier than Gilmore Girls, just a tad.
Like I don't remember specifically why, but I kind of remember like, Oh, there, there, this is a little, there's a little bit of a, I don't know, just felt a little bit more adult.And, um, Oh, I know.There was a scene that I thought, that is weird.
Did you think it was weird when she walked into the Chicago audition, and she sort of barges in, and she's so loud, and she's like, where's Jimmy Houston?I was sort of like, that felt weird.So that was sort of my call out.
Oh, and that she had so many framed pictures of herself in her own apartment in Vegas.
You know, people Have that.I'm not going to call out any.
Did you know?They do.Did you know that was Alex Borstein?By the way, there's a cameo by Alex Borstein as the neighbor in Vegas.So you remember, you know, the neighbor with the crazy wig and the nutty outfit?
Yeah, no, I was Borstein because I think they were best.They are best friends or were.Yeah, I think they are best friends, Amy and Alex. So she always puts her in.Beautiful shots of Vegas.So that I liked because you really felt like you're in Vegas.
You felt like you're in a bleep, bleepy apartment in Vegas.And then it pans out from the apartment and you see Vegas.I thought that was brilliant.
And the costumes in the beginning were really cool and, you know, elaborate and all that.
And I thought when he gives her that, I thought it was a bracelet, but I guess it's a watch.Watch. And she really was like, this is the nicest thing anyone's ever given me and this is so beautiful.And I really was like, oh, okay.
That was the moment when I started to feel like, There's something going on between them.I don't think she's using him.
Do you know what I mean?There's something there.I think from what I've gathered from this first episode, she wants better for her life and she feels like this is her shot at getting a good man and be happy and comfortable, you know, instead of,
just the whole grind of what she's doing.
And then she looks so horrendous in the Volvo.Like she looked, they really did her right, meaning she looked hungover, dirty, makeup, and then you see the ring.
I know, her makeup was all over her face.
It's so bad.And then you see the ring and you're like, oh wow.And then you see the I'll call it a barn, right?I don't know what to call it, where the dance studio is.And immediately I'm like, that is Miss Patti's, right?You're like, wow.
So you're getting enough.
Gilmorey right and one more thing that was very Gilmore to me was when you walked in the house And there's just clowns everywhere.
I immediately was like clown pillow Paradise that house was so cluttered and filled with weird crap that I was like overwhelmed by it Yeah, I agree with you.I thought the kiss was good.
I thought it was a really good kiss She even says good kiss and I'm like it is Mm-hmm it is And then she says, I think I could fall in love with him.Like I thought, you know, okay, I'm in.I'm in.And I believed her.
I believed her.Totally.Yeah, I'm in.Yeah.So, eight CDs.
Seven out of 10, five glasses of wine.
That's not a great ending.We need a catchy send off.More buns next week.Couple of good buns.Gotta go with the buns.A bun joke.
Oh, I don't have it on me right now.What do you like on your bun?
Would you like a bun with that?Come back for some more bun.Oh yeah, come back for some more buns, that's perfect.Every week we'll have a bun, bun pun.
Don't worry guys, this is only gonna last 18 weeks.Hey, you're fine, I'm very fine.
Bear with us for 18 weeks.Totally fine.Bun, bun, bye bye.Bye bye.
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