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What is going on?Okay.So I know you've been wanting the tea.You want the story, the backstory.And so today I'm going there, but on one very specific element of my Beachbody experience, and that is the summits.
I did 11 years of summit, the very first summit where there were like maybe 500 or a thousand coaches. And the last year I personally attended a Beachbody Summit was in 2018.
And if you have no idea what I'm talking about, and this is the first time you've tuned into The Chalene Show, if you like a good story, if you like a good juicy story, you're going to enjoy this.I promise you that.
Now, if you need all of the stories, all of the tea, You can go check out Patreon.That's at patreon.com forward slash The Chalene Show.Link will be in the bio.
All right, on Wednesdays we walk and you are gonna get in so many steps today because I think this is the longest episode I've ever done on a regular show.All right, pace yourself.Let's do this.
♪ Super jam, super jam, super jam, super jam, super jam ♪ ♪ Super, super, super, super jam, super jam ♪ Hey everybody, welcome to chest and back, the mother of all P90X workouts.We're going to get busy right away with a little warm up.
We're going to get the knees up in the air.
You're not tired.You are getting your second wind right now.Feel it.Come on.
Well, it's story time.You know, not every one of these episodes is pure comedy.Sometimes it's a blast from the past.
So grab a bucket of popcorn, make yourself a cup of hot tea, or actually just go get yourself a cup and I'm going to pour you some hot tea.So I'm going to share with you my experience going to what was known as the Beachbody Summit.
Okay, so for context purposes, a little reminder that when I came to work with Beachbody, I never worked for them as an employee.My contract was different from most of the trainers that you're familiar with today.
At the time that I came to work with Beachbody, back in 2004, they were an infomercial company.It was in 2007 or 2008, I believe, that they became a network marketing company.
Network marketing companies, I'm sure you already know, but just as a reminder, network marketing companies, that's something like Amway or Herbalife.It's when you have products, could be soap, could be supplements, could be just about anything.
And people who sell those products earn a percentage.And then every person that they recruit to also sell those products
the person who recruited them gets a percentage of their sales in addition to the sales of anyone who that person who they recruited recruits.You see what I'm saying?Hence why they sometimes are referred to as a pyramid scheme.
But you know, pyramid schemes are illegal and they're highly, highly regulated.It is in fact one of the reasons why a lot of network marketing companies eventually go to affiliate models because
they find that there's fewer and fewer sales happening to outside customers.
And if all the sales are coming just from within the organization, meaning like distributors, if all the distributors are the people who are buying all the products and they're not actually a balance of new customers, as well as
distributors in other words if people are signing up to become distributors and all the sales are going to the distributors well um that's a pyramid scheme and i forget what regulating body governs them but some agency the agencies that watch network marketing companies
They'll be notified.They'll do an investigation.They are put on notice.It's very expensive for these organizations to remain doing business, especially here in the United States because they are so closely regulated.
Anyways, that's kind of the backstory.As you know, Beachbody became a network marketing company sometime 2007 or eight, and it was a new venture for them.The entire story.
if you want to know like the whole story that i have never shared until this week really it's on patreon and that's where it's going to stay at least for now but this part i want to share with you but i mean if you're fascinated by this if you're somebody who was in the network and you had questions like why were these people so successful and what was going on here and why did chalene leave yeah well it's there it's on patreon and i i think it'll
make some things help, make some things like connect the dots.But anyways, network marketing companies, MLMs, they usually have a big convention every year.
That's like part of the, I don't know what you want to call it, like the blueprint for these companies.They have these big national conventions and a big part of it is they do these like awards banquets.
I mean, call it an awards banquet, but like it's a show.I mean, companies will spend, listen to what I'm about to say, millions and millions on this one three-day event.You don't even know how much money they spend on these events.Why you might ask?
Because first of all, word spreads like you see all these people walking on the stage in their beautiful dresses and they were just awarded a check of a hundred thousand dollars as a bonus for being the top coach of the year or
some other like special accolade and all these people are honored and it is like the academy awards or bigger and everybody wants that doesn't everybody want to receive an oscar to walk across the stage to be given a check for your hard work
be acknowledged by all these people who are in the organization like and let's not kid ourselves 90% of these things are targeted at women women who are staying at home trying to you know stay at home mom trying to make extra income for their family and you know we're not going to get into in this episode anyways your thoughts on network marketing but i will say it is the most
ostentatious extravagance I've ever seen in my life.I was shocked at what eventually the summits turned into.But in those early years, the first year of the formation of the network marketing business at Beachbody, they had just transitioned.
I shouldn't even say they had transitioned.They just started this part of the business.They were still doing infomercials.That was a separate part of their business.
And then they had this leg called, or I guess you'd call a branch, called Team Beachbody.That was the network marketing organization.At the time, they were kind of like the ugly stepchild at Beachbody because Beachbody was killing it.
in the infomercial space, like selling tens of millions of DVDs online.This is at the time when P90X, Insanity, Hip Hop Abs, Turbo Jam, like we were selling tens of millions of copies.
The show, you couldn't turn on the TV and not see one of our infomercials.I couldn't go anywhere without being recognized, which was something I always thought would be like kind of cool until it happened.
And I know that Tony has a very different relationship with fame.I know that Sean has a very different relationship from even Tony and even from me, you know, like we all have like a different way that it affected us.For me, I am an introvert and
I just was not expecting it to feel so intrusive and to feel so exposed all the time.Like I remember when the shows first were on TV and I went to a supermarket and someone was like, wait a second.I know you.I know you.
And I was thinking, okay, it was local.I was home.I was in Orange County.I was thinking, oh, you know, that would happen to me a lot because I taught fitness classes where you would have, this is like back in the heyday of turbo.
I would have like a hundred, 125 people in a room doing a class.So if someone were to see me out and say like, oh my God, I know you, there's a very good likelihood it was from like class.You know what I mean?And I wouldn't know them.
They might have been standing in the back.I might not have ever seen them.So that was more often than not when someone would say, Oh my God, I know you, especially in Orange County.I was like, Oh, like maybe you take one of my classes.
But that's when it started hitting me.When we started traveling, like I would go to an airport or something and people would be like, wait a second.Are you the lady on TV?You know, they never knew my name ever.
They always said, are you the turbo lady?Are you the turbo girl?Are you the exercise lady?No one ever knew my name.So at first, It was like, Oh, that's fun.You know what I mean?
But then I would realize that no matter where I was, people were staring at me.You just know, you just know.And I've done it myself when you're like, Oh, there's so-and-so and you like nudge your husband and say, don't look now.
And of course he spins around and looks.No chill factor.We've all done that, right? Well, the person who you've just done that to, I guarantee they know it.You can feel it.You can sense it.
I don't even have to see that that's happening and I can sense it.There's been times I'll say to Brett like, okay, so there's someone behind me right now who wants to say hello.I mean, I don't even have to look.I can feel it.
And maybe that's my energy.But like that got to a place again, then, when it was on TV all the time, that it just made me feel very exposed.It made me feel like people were always watching.
People would be like, they just take pictures of you and while you're just doing things. I mean, I remember, okay, so let's talk about the summits.So this is all happening.
We're at the peak of the popularity of all three of these trainers programs, myself, Tony, and Sean.And we formed the network marketing organization and they had their first annual, which they called a summit.
And I believe the first one was in, it was either in LA or Anaheim, but it was small.It was like maybe 1,500 coaches at the time. Beachbody was watching what other network marketing companies were doing.
They did the awards thing where there's a stage and they spend a decent amount on production, but it was in a small auditorium.I remember it.Brett came and dropped me off back behind the building and then was like, okay, I'll pick you up.
in a little bit.I mean, it was like so different from what they eventually ended up being.I remember having a conversation at that first one with, and so it was like Sean and I and Tony in like kind of a green room.
This is so funny to me to think about the first one compared to what they eventually turned into.So spoiler alert, the last summit I went to, the biggest summit I went to had 30,000 coaches.Okay.So this first one's like, maybe between 500 and 1,000.
And so Tony and Sean and I are back in a green room, and we're like having conversations.Now, Tony's big time.He's big time in us.Because we were like the young whooper snappers who came in after him.I came in before Sean.
So Tony wasn't going to give me any insider intel.He just didn't.He was nice, but he wasn't like, let me put you under my wing, but I'm that person.Like you guys know this about me.I like to tell people. How to avoid problems.
I like to tell people about the sh** that I've done that's, you know, been a problem and I've messed up and here, don't do this, do this instead.I'm a bossy big sister.So of course I'm being bossy big sister with Sean.
I remember having conversations with him about, he was talking about like buying his first truck maybe, or maybe he just bought his first truck.Anyways, the first one was like no big deal.A few people wanted to take photos with us, you know.
I mean people did want to take photos with us, but like it just, They didn't have any special room for us to be in.It was, we were just there to teach.
The next year was probably like 2000 coaches and it was a little bit more involved, a lot more involved.
A lot more people wanted to take photos with us because now also this is the first year that the Powder Blue, which is the company Brett and I started, it's the first year that the platinum presenters, these are the women,
who we had trained to be area promotions directors.Basically, we taught them how to do sales and to sell, if you will, the idea and host their own certifications for TurboKick.
Now I've detailed all of that in a Patreon episode, so I won't bore you if you've already heard that.And I don't even know if that's interesting to some of you, but like the backstory behind the business that Brett and I created, we created a,
together a seven figure business before Beachbody, this brand.And it's part of the whole reason why things didn't go as smoothly for me anyways, as they did with other trainers.We won't get into that anyways.
So then the next year, I'm kind of looking at my notes too, to kind of trigger my memory.So then the next year we were in Los Angeles and that, that was much bigger. And I remember now Powder Blue was really getting much bigger.
We were doing these things called Camp Do More, unrelated to Beachbody.So for fitness instructors who were teaching Turbo Kick, I would hold this motivational camp.It was like adult cheer camp.If you know, you know.
And we would hold these events in Orange County and hundreds and hundreds
Not thousands, but hundreds and hundreds of women and men, some men, would come to these events and we would have teams and we would do a workout and then a motivational lecture, and then a workout, and then a motivational lecture, and then a fashion show, and then a motivational lecture, and then a workout.
And a lot of it was teaching people how to personal development and business development, which is another thing Beachbody never liked.They never liked that I was very passionate about teaching people how to own their own business.
So anyways, we had to put on enough of these events to know what to expect. how to organize it where I needed to be staying so that I could get in and out and into my next outfit and then back up on the stage.
Like we were so dialed in because we've been doing these things for a couple of years.So now I'm up at Beachbody and when I'm doing the Powder Blue events like Camp Do More, I know that part of the reason why people are there is because of me, right?
their favorite instructor etc so I already know what it's like to be at an event where you're the center of attention or and I don't mean that I don't know how else to describe it except that like you're the main event you know what I mean and so now Beachbody is doing these summits these conventions and
for a network marketing organization, and they're modeling them after looking at other network marketing companies that are doing the same thing, except no other network marketing company ever, to my knowledge, has made people, meaning the trainers, the product.
But at the time, when Beachbody, especially when they first launched, the products were three people's workouts and then Shakeology. Well, nobody wants a picture with a bag of protein.Everybody wants a piece of one of the trainers.
And I'm sorry, that's just what it felt like.It felt like people were there to steal a piece of you, to grab a piece of you.And I really do hope that this is understood in the spirit in which I'm explaining this.
I totally understand that some people change their lives with a workout, that a workout And it's just like a song.A song can get you through a depressing episode.It can get you through a tough divorce.
It can get you through the grief of losing a parent.And so I understand all that.But when you are the thing that thousands of people want a little piece of, it's a weird feeling.It's a really weird feeling.
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And so by the time we have our event, I think it was like maybe in 2010 is when things started to get really crazy.And again, Beachbody, they hadn't put any strategies in place.And I'm a know-it-all.
And I want to tell people how to avoid problems that they can avoid, that are avoidable.And I remember trying to tell Carl and the executives at Beachbody, like, OK, so this keeps getting bigger and bigger.And in order for the three of us
to get to where we need to go, to do what we need to do.Like there's some certain things we have to, you have to take into consideration.Like we can't be in the same elevators with thousands of people.
And it's not because, oh my God, I think I'm better than all these people.It's like, because it's just, it's not possible.I mean, I watched Shanti get groped more times than I care to recall.I watched Tony Horton get groped.I mean, and,
Frankly, I mean, I didn't get groped.I had a lot of people get in my physical space and do things that were way outside of normal boundaries because there's this crazy energy.
There's this crazy like, oh my God, and you're with there with a group of like five or six girlfriends.And remember, it's like mainly females.And I think also because Sean's always been very open about his
sexuality like you know people knew he was a gay man and I don't know what it is like and I need to ask him how he felt about this but I was always like if I let's just say I was a gay woman at one of these events and these women are all straight women would it make it okay for them to like
be rubbing my stomach and feeling my ass, like, that was wild.And there was no one who could help us.
Like, you know, Carl's doing his thing, the executive team's doing all their things, and they've handed us an itinerary, and we're supposed to be on this stage teaching this workout at this time, and then you need to go over here, and you've gotta take pictures with these coaches who have all become like two-star diamonds or whatever it is.
And those first couple of, years of the summit, they just didn't understand how, A, impossible that was, and B, how exposed we were.And there's just really no other way to state it.
Because if you bring, let's just put it this way, if you bring 2,000 people together, you and I both know if there's 2,000 people, 10 of them are out of their minds.Like they're just not normal. You know what I'm saying?
So now you bring 5,000, 10,000 of those people all together and without like a safety net, which at the time there really wasn't for us, it was chaos.It was just pure chaos.And then you're supposed to be on and up and happy.Okay.And now,
I start like making a bigger stink.I'm like, listen, this is going to benefit the coaches.It's going to benefit the trainers.It's going to benefit all of us.
Can I please, will you please just listen to me and, and take my advice because we've done this and no, we haven't been in network marketing organization.Like they would just roll their eyes at me.Like she doesn't know what she's talking about.
This girl thinks she's the boss of everybody.No, no.Listen to me. We've done this.I can help you.So here's what we need to do.Like each trainer needs a handler, someone who can be the bad guy.
Because when a woman is walking towards you with tears in her eyes, and she wants to tell you, and she's holding a picture of her child who has passed away of leukemia, and she wants to tell you her story, how were you supposed to walk away from that?
but how are you supposed to stand there and listen to that and connect with her and to feel her emotions and then get on the stage literally 30 seconds later and be happy and excited.
Like you either have to be a robot and dissociate or we have to have boundaries in place.And so we needed handlers, we needed somebody else to run interference because it's not right for us to have to be the jerks and say, I can't, I can't.
And then if you are listening to one person, we would walk through the hallways to get to our next event.And by the way, what's so weird about this is I know I said I was getting recognized all over the place, but it wasn't like that.
You know what I mean?Like in certain places I would get recognized, certain times I would be recognized, but not everywhere.But when you go to one of these summits, like everyone is there for you.So everyone knows who you are.
So you are absolutely, I mean, you're like a zoo animal. You can't go anywhere because everyone has come to that event to get a photo with you.
Because a photo with you, for some reason, people believe this is going to tell everyone in social media that I'm connected or I'm near the top.I don't know what people thought.So anyways, I told Carl, et cetera, like we need handlers.
Each one of us needs our own handler, number one.Number two, you've gotta put us someplace where we don't share the same elevators.
Because even if you do have a handler, if you're standing there in a crowd of 40 people waiting for an elevator, even with a handler, now you gotta take photos.And you know what, back then, every single person pulled out their phone.
Okay, so back then, Think about how iPhones were in like 2011.We were talking like people would pull open their phone and then they wouldn't have enough storage.
And then they would hand it to somebody else or to Blackberry who didn't know how to take a photo.
And so now you're standing there with this permagrin on and the other person who's taking the photo for the person who asked for the photo doesn't know how to operate the other person's phone.And so they're like, oh, hold on, hold on.
I've got to delete some photos.And then you'd be standing there like, and now a line is forming. And now your elevator doors are opened, and there's a line of 15 people, or more, or 100.
And to leave meant you needed somebody who could help you to get into the elevator and go to your, it wasn't even that I didn't wanna take photos with people, it's like, I'm gonna be late for this next thing.
There's a room full of people who've earned this workout or whatever it was, and now I can't get there, and I don't have time to change, and I don't have time to eat. So stressful, that part of it.So eventually...
They did figure out that we needed to be in separate hotels if possible, but it wasn't always the case.There were many times that we were, you know, just kind of had to fend for yourself.
And you also didn't know who was going to be your quote, handler, which was basically someone who was hired from a private security agency.And I was just talking to Kristen, who's been with me, my assistant, at the time she was my assistant.
Now she's the podcast manager, Patreon manager.
and YouTube manager and but at the time she was just the Chalene manager and so she would go to all these things with me and she has mother bear energy so half the times we would hire some guy who was like supposedly a green beret and it was Kristen who would have to like
push the guy aside and say, like, OK, people, I've got to get her to the next location, OK?She was like, I don't care if these people think I'm a bitch.Like, I've got to help.My job is to make sure you get to the next place.
And so she would often have to be the heavy, you know?I mean, there was one time when the security dude that they gave us, like, I'm pretty sure they picked them maybe according to height or something.
Because, you know, Sean had like this big giant guy and Tony had this other big giant guy.And then they gave me some little old man, swear to God, it was someone's grandpa.And he had bad hearing, a bad heart.He wore a suit.
And apparently he was once a police officer.So rude that this plane is just like overhead trying to like make a bunch of noise and distract me.And I got ill. And I remember, like, we would have to run.You literally sometimes would have to run.
There was, I mean, there's so many things.Like, there was one time when we were in Nashville.This was in, I think, 2015.2015, a bunch of things physically happened to me at these events where I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
And what they would do is coaches eventually would have all these different parties, right? people who had achieved a certain rank like maybe five star diamond.
There was a five star diamond party and then there was the elite coach party and the reason you know people to go to these parties what they would use as kind of the carrot was you'll get to meet the trainers.And so
I think people who put the itineraries together for us trainers, they would be like, oh, and then you can just, you know, then you'll just go to this cocktail party and this cocktail party.
Not like really understanding, wait, no, we're not at a cocktail party.We are working.
So you would literally just this moment you start even walking towards the room where the party would be, there would be people who were, you know, going to that party and they'd see you and grab you and start taking photos.And now people are drunk.
and they're falling all over you, and they always say, like, you were my favorite trainer, and then, you know, they just finish saying that to, like, I don't care, but, like, you know, they would always say either that or, like, I don't even do your workouts, but my friend does, so I gotta get a photo.
Hang on, can we open, wait a second, wait a second.I'm gonna FaceTime her, I'm gonna FaceTime her. You know, and this person's like hanging on you and they're drunk.And then this other person's like, can I tell you something?Can I tell you something?
And they want to tell you a sad story.And then another person wants to tell you like a happy story.And for someone who's an empath, like I've talked to Sean about this.I've talked to, actually I've talked to Tony about it.
I've talked to Siggy about it.You know, we've all talked about it in our, each of us would agree.Like if you want to be a meaningful, authentic person, it's really hard. to connect in those moments because they're seconds.
And you know that this person came to this event and picked out an outfit thinking about the fact that they've spent hours and hours and hours with you on their TV.There's definitely a very strong, a beyond strong parasocial relationship.
I've done my workout once when I filmed it, that's it.But they may have watched
me deliver the same dumb jokes in the same lines over and over and over maybe hundreds of times maybe thousands of hours with us so they really like it's weird when you see someone who you've spent you've watched thousands of hours with them you feel like they must know you too
And I know this because I've experienced this.Like I've met people who are famous that I've like, you know, like I used to watch all of Susie Orman shows, like all the, all the, all the time.
And then when I saw her at QVC, I kind of like averted my eyes.You know how when you see someone out at the grocery store that you kind of know, but you're like, oh, I'm not in the mood to talk to them right now.And you kind of like avert your eyes.
You kind of pretend like you didn't see them, hoping they didn't see you.That's how I was with Susie Orman.And then it took me a minute to go like, oh yeah, that's right. She has no clue who I am, you know?And that would happen.
These parasocial relationships were so strong that when people would see you, they'd just start crying.For those of you that know the story about Mugsy, I'm about to walk past Mugsy right now.
Oh, I know.You guys told me to just ignore her or him.Just ignore him.OK, I'm going to ignore him.I'm in the middle of this anyways. So that was hard.The people was hard.But the time in Nashville.
I was leaving one of those parties and I had with, by this point, I believe my handlers hours were like done.
You know, some of the years the handlers would like be done by a certain hour and they were really handlers that you didn't think of them as bodyguards per se.
They were really just like trying to make sure you got to your next event, kinda, but like they never really knew the itinerary.They were just big guys who were like halftime, like former police officers.
so eventually we brought our own like we brought our friend Mel Abrams who just I mean he's trained in this but he's also a public speaker and also knows exactly what you need like he's been in that situation he's always got this like really unique perspective by the way great dude still friends with him
And he's a money dude, like he's an author.Anyways, I digress.Great dude.And when we had him, that was fantastic.
I think you guys have heard the story about the time when I got choked literally by a person at one of those events who I assume has some mental health issues.I've told that story before.I don't remember where I told it.Did I tell it here?
You guys will have to remind me.But yeah, he was there and I really do credit him for just making sure I was safe that day.
Thank God he was there, because if one of those other people, one of those rent-a-cops had been there when that happened to me, I probably would be chopped up in little pieces, and then wrapped in a carpet, and then thrown into, or wrapped again in trash bags, and then duct tape, and then a cinder block would have been tied around me, and I'd be in the bottom of the ocean, I swear.
I'm not dramatic, I'm not. I did a live chat today with my Patreon peeps.Oh, by the way, that's another thing I forgot to tell you, is that now, if you are a Patreon member, make sure that you have your notifications turned on.
It's a new thing where I can just go live and then it disappears after I'm done going live.So it's kind of like grabbing a phone chat.It's pretty cool.There's no camera.It's just an audio.
It almost reminds me of clubhouse, kind of like clubhouse, but way cooler.Anyways, today when I went live, I had a bunch of women that were sharing with me their experience using Midi Health.
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So here we were, we were in Nashville and we're heading back from one of these, you know, events where you got to meet the trainers and I'm exhausted.I've been up since 6am doing workouts.I probably taking photos with no less than 3000 people.
I swear to you, I'm going to post photos.You're listening to this on Wednesday.Go look at my Instagram. IG story feed, okay?I'm gonna post photos and you will see exactly what I'm talking about, okay?
Because you can't even picture this unless you see it.I need you to see this.So I've taken pictures with thousands of people.
I'm walking home, my feet hurt so bad, but you still have to be on, you have to be smiling because the streets are filled with coaches, filled.And they're taking pictures as you're walking, you know, and we're trying to like zigzag our way
home without being seen but there's this like little part where we had to kind of go on the outside of a building and there was one of those bars that's like outdoors and there was just a massive group of coaches like maybe somebody's downline was having a party or something and one of them saw me and like screamed like oh my god you're my favorite you know whatever and of course i'm waving like hi you know you have to be friendly
You know, I mean, because I know I probably sound like an ungrateful wench right now, but I was grateful that these people, what they were doing was selling me.
You know, so you're grateful for that, but at the same time, you also feel so kind of used and faceless.And so when she screamed, and this was pretty late in the evening at an outdoor venue where everyone's drinking, and the group came running over,
you know, to take photos.And they're all dressed in their cowboy boots and having their cocktails.And I start taking photos.And it's a big group.Like, it's a big crowd.
Like, I'm trying to, like, imagine, like, being at a concert, being, like, in the middle of a concert.It was that big of a group.I mean, not that big of a group.You know what I'm saying?
Like, imagine being, like, in a, I don't know, like, a dance club.It was that size of a group.And there's loud music.And everyone's kind of drunk. having fun and Kristen's trying to help me escape.And we're like, okay guys, she's got to go.
She's got to go.Brett's there too.He's like, we got to go.And so as I'm like, like a group of girls had put their arms around me, you know, I was like in the center of a picture.You've seen those pictures.
You will, if you go look at my Instagram stories.And as I'm kind of like walking away from this group, someone grabbed my hair from behind and yanked as hard as they could. And I fell backwards.And it hurt.
And I remember, like, there was no more pretending to be in a good mood.There was no more being nice.The F-bomb started.I'm like, who the f***?Who was that?Like, I was like, oh, Detroit could not be hidden. It could not be tucked away.
The hoops were coming off and I was back in middle school fighting Sheila Wilson after school and a big circle of girls.I was immediately flashed back to fist clench, let's go, let's go.
You know, I don't know how Kristen got me to like simmer down, but I was just like, like steam coming out of my ears.I was so mad that somebody would like literally do that, you know, in that moment.Never did figure out who did it.
So if it was you, I hope you had seven years of horrible, bad luck and you have bad breath and just the ugliest feet anyone has ever seen. Anyways, that was one situation.I mean, there were times where, again, just feeling utilized versus used.
A friend of mine just, we were talking about the difference between being utilized, which feels good, and being used.And sometimes people don't It's so weird, because it feels good to be utilized.I want to be utilized.
I remember I would tell my friends who were Beachbody coaches, I'm like, utilize me.If I can do a call for you.But those women, my closest friends, they never did.They were like, I would not do that to you.
I'm like, no, but really, if there's anything I can do to help, you know, I'm coming your way, I'm going to be in your state, like, let's do an event if you want.You know, they just were always so, so respectful.So I never felt used at all by them.
But I would encourage them like, hey, if there's anything I can do to help, but it was different at these events.And again, it's not that I blame The execs, they just had no idea what our experience was like as the trainers.
And I'm only speaking through 20, let me see, what was the last year?Yeah, okay, so the last year that I was at a summit was 2018 in Indy.
And by that point, if you were at that event, you probably didn't even know I was there because they uninvited me to quite a few of the events that I was supposed to be a part of.So typically, as a trainer, you would get your itinerary in advance.
And that was important because you had to bring so many changes of clothes and outfits and you had to have your workout outfits.
And then you had to have your photos or the outfits you would wear in the photo line and the outfits you would wear to each one of these parties.
And then the outfit you would wear to the panel and the outfit you would wear for the photo ops and the outfit you would wear for the super workout.Don't let me forget to talk to you about super workouts.
And so in 2018, when I got my itinerary, it was very, light.I was like, huh, this is interesting.This is very interesting.And then quite a few of the things that I was scheduled to do, I got notified that they didn't need me for that.
They didn't need me for this.They didn't need me for that.And I was like, okay, you know, now I know you're probably thinking, well, you were just saying how much you you know, it was uncomfortable and it wasn't, I mean, don't get me wrong.
There were a lot of amazing people that I met and there was nothing that could ever replace the live workouts.
Like there was a moment when I was teaching PAIO live in front of, you know, thousands of people and I had brought them myself, these glow sticks, and we turned out the lights and it was magical. It was one of the greatest moments of my life.
Like I just remember chills and tears and P.S.that was five weeks after I'd ripped my hamstring avulsion.So I'd spent five weeks prior to that, like getting to a place where I could like even kind of do a pio workout.And it was just, it was magical.
It was beautiful.And every person in that room, you just, that's different. That's different from walking through a crowd of people who have never done one of your workouts.You know what I mean?
And they're drunk and they don't really care who you are.You know, that's very different.I would love for anyone to experience the high that I would feel on a stage in a room full of true turbo fanatics.
Dude, everyone would come and look at this room.We blew the sound off of the building.It was unbelievable.Those things I could do all day long.Nothing brought me more joy, more gratitude.It's just something I can't describe.
It's a high that I think very, I feel very, very, very fortunate to have experienced that.
So please know there were lots of good things too, but I know I'm storytelling and I'm telling you the stuff that's like, you know, you don't want to hear all the good stuff.You want to hear about the stuff, right?
I mean, and frankly, I kind of want to get it off my chest because they didn't take care of us.They didn't, I'm sorry.They didn't.I remember checking into our hotel room
And there's, you know, all coaches on our floor, which is fine, but it's really not fine because then, you know, you've got people knocking at your door.
I mean, again, like how do you even go to the bathroom in a place like this when there's 30,000 coaches?How do you, how do you just use a public restroom?I remember a person stuck their phone under the stall door and was taking pictures.Swear to God.
What?Like, And I just don't think the executive team could have ever known those things were going to happen to us.I don't even know Shawn and Tony's and the other coaches' stories, but I mean, trainers' stories.
OK, so back to me getting my itinerary for the last year that I was there.
And then getting the phone calls like, hey, you know, so we're actually not going to need you for this event, you know, and slowly like one at a time, they started removing those events.
And you might think to yourself, well, gosh, didn't that make you happy Shaleen?I mean, it was weird.The things that I wanted to do, I really wanted to do.I loved speaking on the stage and they took that away.
I was like, okay, I think that's the year that Rachel Hollis spoke.Yeah, I think that's the year that Rachel Hollis spoke.Isn't that wild?Yeah, so they didn't want me to speak on the stage.I'm like, okay, like, but that's the thing I loved doing.
Like I loved talking to these people about building their own brand, about creating something that's your own.And I don't think that message was something Beachbody wanted promoted.And I know, I know it wasn't.
positive it wasn't something they wanted promoted.And as a business owner, I absolutely understand why they wanted to take me off the promotional materials and kind of like low-key my presence there.Because they knew I was leaving to
And it wasn't like a public announcement.It was just a soft fade.That was kind of what we all agreed was the right way to do, like a soft fade, so it didn't cause a stir.
It didn't create a mass exodus of people who joined because of my influence or because they were part of the Powder Blue organization.Or that it just, you know, when, even when Tony left, it wasn't like, okay, Tony's done.
It was kind of a slow, soft, okay, we're doing less.And he might've known, but it wasn't like there was going to be an announcement.And so as they were, I just remember like being removed from all of the promotional materials, et cetera.
And the part that was off-putting was that I was still there and I was still expected to be in the photo lines.I was still expected to be the carrot But there wasn't an opportunity for me to be utilized.Instead, I felt, I felt used.
Okay, so I know there's some loops I haven't closed.Like, you know, they would also have us present the awards on the stage.So you would have to spend, I mean, there were years I spent thousands and thousands on gowns and hair and makeup and flying.
people in to do hair and makeup and flying in my own security because it's a whole thing.And there's this expectation, especially if you're a female trainer, like, you know, back then, Sean, if you're listening, I mean, you had it so easy.
You just had to put like a little bit of baby oil on your bald head.Me, I had to like clip in hair extensions and bring Tiffany Lee Bymaster, Coach Glitter into Worker Magic and waterproof makeup and, you know, you just, it was a lot.It's a lot.
It's a lot to go from working out to glam, working out to glam, working out to glam, you know what I mean?
Anyways, that part, you know, so they would have us go on stage and oftentimes they would have us be the emcees or the, you know, present the awards to the coaches.And I can tell you, okay, so I'm going to play one of my favorite moments.
This is when Sean and I were on stage and we did like, Beachbody didn't know we were going to do this.We planned it like separately on the side.God, we had so much fun together and we would always ask to have our rooms next to each other too.
And so anyways, we planned a little wrap.Here you go.
So, Chalene.Yes?I hear that you and I have something else in common besides this.
What's that?You know what I'm saying?I heard you can sing the whole line.I heard you can rap a little bit.Oh, shit.Oh, shit.So you fly for a white girl, huh?I try. What we're doing seems to be working.
So that was fun.But what was weird is that you knew these coaches, some, not all, certainly a very small percentage, obviously, in any network marketing organization is going to make millions.But guess what?
In defense of that, there's a very small percentage of people who own any kind of business who are going to make millions.It takes a special kind of person.
So when people are like, oh, you know, they really bash distributors who are at the top of these organizations.Dude, That has nothing to do with getting in early someplace.That's hard work.Those people have something special.They do.
We can all agree to disagree.But the people at the top of any organization, the people who crush it in their own business, it takes a special type of person.You have to have persistence, determination, insane work ethic.
You've got to be a great leader of people.It's just not that easy.So yeah, that's true.Not a lot of people in network marketing make more than four figures.But guess what?Not a lot of people in business in general make more than four.
That's why so many businesses go out of business because it ain't easy.
What's sad though is when people spend 17 years and you've told them that they're building their own business and they did all the things that would have made them that successful if it had truly been their own thing.And then You go, guess what?
We're just kidding.You've been building our business for 17 years.So bye.Bye.No severance.
No job history that you can immediately go back and do something else could be because you've devoted the last several decades to building their business and their customer list.Do you leave with your customer list?No, no, no, no.
It's their customer list.But it was weird.It was weird.I'm going to tell you this.
in those later years near the end when there were coaches making seven figures even six figures and i knew that there were trainers who weren't making even a fraction of that like how weird must it have been for a trainer who's like we always think that
Fame correlates with money.That if there's a trainer who you know who they are and you know their name and they're quote famous, that they must be wealthy or they must be being paid a lot.No, not necessarily.No, especially not in those later days.
That's for sure.The infomercial days, that was some different.But the network marketing days, I should probably stop right there.I should probably keep some of these things for a more private space.But I do want to answer your questions.
So these are from those of you who are on Patreon and I think there's going to be some good questions.Okay so let's see.What was expected of the trainers?Okay so what was expected of us was morning till night.
Like it was you know your first workout sometimes was at 6 a.m. which meant you had to be in hair and makeup and ready to go by five.
But the night before you were at a diamond party until midnight, like, you know, and I've heard people, you know, whatever, gossip about the trainers.Like they were upset they didn't get special food.
Like, I mean, there were so many times, so many times that
before we figured out what to do, how to go to Summit, you definitely couldn't rely on room service because there's 30,000 coaches all in the same hotel ordering room service at the same time.
They didn't think about, okay, when would these people have time to eat?Can we have food delivered to their room?No, none of that.I'll never forget the one year that I was staying next to a coach who was coach of the year or whatever,
And I remember, very lovely woman, lovely lady, and she had this ginormous... bouquet of a bajillion roses delivered to her room, and every single piece of Beachbody swag you could possibly imagine, right?
And then this big, giant basket of food, and then a charcuterie board delivered to her room.And we checked into my room, and I had a little basket with a card that had been signed by staff.I'm like, really?Really, Carl? You've got like six trainers.
You can't sign your name.Like, and all these coaches are here.They're not here because of Shakeology, dude.Don't get it twisted.They're not here because of a shake.They're here because of the trainers.
And it was a basket that had like two bags of pretzels.Not kidding.Like four water bottles.And there was something else, like maybe like Oreo cookies or something.I'm like, what?I mean, obviously they, you know, They hadn't put that together.
They had the hotel staff or something put it together.But like there was no time scheduled to eat.There was no place to pee privately.
Like, I mean, they're just like little things that, again, I don't think the executives could understand what it, although Carl should have because people were just as desperate for a piece of him at these events as anyone else.They really were.
I mean, pretty much.I mean, I saw people grabbing him, taking photos, and then eventually the coaches became stars.You know what I mean?
So all these distributors would hear about so-and-so and the person who was the coach of the year last year, then everybody would want a photo with that person.And you didn't even have to be coach of the year.
You just had to be one of those coaches who had a reputation. You know, like I remember people just mauling my sister for photos or Christine Dwyer, or like if your downline came, they all wanted photos with you.
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Nancy asked, I guess my question is, do they build up these personalities in that way on purpose so that we'll follow them like they're celebrities?I don't know how much of that was intentional.I just think it is what it is.
It's like, it's that parasocial relationship.But 1000% what was intentional is that they knew people were coming to these events to have a moment with a trainer.Okay, Kelsey asks, how did the trainers interact with each other behind the scenes?
Everyone was nice to me.Yes, there were definitely some that were much colder than others.And I will say that they were the females, which was a bummer for me because again, I just wanted to be like, there's so much I can help you with.
There's so much I can tell you.I'm on your side.I'm on your side.You know what I mean?But no, it was super cold, very cold from the female trainers.
Now there have been trainers who've come on in the last like four or five years that I've met that are lovely.Like I, they're so sweet.Like I've met Elise and Lacey and Megan.
and I'm forgetting some names right now, but like, they're really sweet and they're really nice, but I wouldn't go there.You know what I mean?Like, it's different.I'm out.But I was always like really sweet to them.
And I mean, they were really sweet to me, but no, when I went to the summits, no, the other female trainers at that point, they were cold.And I don't know why. It might be because they were experiencing the same thing I was.
And you really do feel like you're in fight or flight.So I don't blame them.And people are like, Oh, give us the dirt on so-and-so and so-and-so.I'm like, I just, I can't because I don't know them at all.That's just not my style.
I'm not here to make up stories or rumors or even speculate. I can just tell you my own personal experience, but I do feel like they intentionally kept us apart.Sean and I would often ask, can we share like an adjoining room?
I mean, not share rooms, but you know what I mean?Like so that we were across the hall from each other.We would ask for that.We would try to coordinate that.
Typical day schedule, oh boy.
I don't know what the typical coach's day looked like.I can, obviously, I can only tell you about mine.Oh, good question, Sydney.She said, why, if the company was struggling, were they still putting on these big events?
Now, I'm telling you, one of those events, I mean, multiple events, actually, there would be 20, 30,000 people for the super workout.Now, the super workout is what, like, everybody who was there
would go onto the streets or like into a, you know, giant massive area in Las Vegas and they would build this huge stage and then they would put a tent behind the stage and then all the trainers were there and each one of us would go on for five minutes.
Okay?And somebody asked about the packing order.Well, the packing order was, I was never unhappy with my positioning, like wherever they put me, So it had a little bit to do with what type of program you were featuring.
If it were turbo, for example, that would not be a warmup.That wouldn't even be like the second trainer.I might be like the third or fourth trainer where like, you know, they want some something. they're warmed up.
You know typically they would near the beginning would be Sean or I or Tony and then I mean that was the years that I was there.I don't I don't know what happened the years after I was there.
I don't know if they started with Autumn or Joel or Jericho or some of the other trainers.I'll never forget though.I need to ask Chris Downing about this.I remember standing behind him at his first summit and he was frozen
just about to go out for the, I got to call him and ask him about this, the first, what do they call it?The super Saturday or whatever they call that big giant workout, the super workout, right? And he was frozen.
He was like, I could tell him like, Oh, he is frozen right now.Cause he's looking at this crowd of like that.And I said, I just went up and whispered to him.I'm like, you won't even see a face.
It's just going to be a sea of color, which is weird because it's true.When I would teach in one of the rooms with like a couple hundred or even like 500 or even a thousand people, that would make me a little nervous, but more excited.
But when we would do the super workout, it felt like everything was AI. It was so weird.You couldn't, like the music would reverberate.So you couldn't tell if you're on the beat or if people could hear you.
You couldn't connect with anyone, like anyone's face, because they're just so packed in like sardines.
And I have to imagine that's what like people feel like when they give a concert, like maybe Britney Spears feels like that, where you can kind of see the people in the very front if there's a small area, like a pit area.
But other than that, it just feels like colors. See, I didn't feel nervous, but I remember like just telling Chris like it, you know, and him kind of like relaxing and going up there.But like doing those was so easy.It was almost dumb.I'm sorry.
Because I would look and go like, these poor people, they're on the Las Vegas Strip and it's 9am and it's already 101 degrees. And they're packed in here like sardines to see all these trainers get up on the stage each for five minutes.
And they're jumping up and down doing burpees on freaking pavement.God, they did it because it made for exceptional footage.Now, and I'm going to post, you guys go look at my stories.
I'll show you pictures and you will see like, holy cow, you see that?And what does that do to you?You've got FOMO.They put on those events to create FOMO. So you'd be like, I've got to be there.I've got to be a part of this group.
I've got to earn my way to get there.I've got to create a great before and after story and sell people on weight loss.And I've got to earn my way to get to this event so that when I get to that event, I'm going to be fully locked in.
It was just part of the plan.And then they would use that footage in the infomercials.But eventually, the very last infomercial that did anything was Pyo.
And I'm going to tell that Pio story and I'm going to talk about how that infomercial came to be kind of after I left.After I kind of left, I left pretty much the network marketing side of things.
I was still obviously doing some infomercial stuff for them, but yeah, so those summits, they would spend millions on production.It was insane.Okay.So Janet said, I remember the Sean Taraj and she says a year and they all travel.
It was all of Sean's backup people. And there was some kind of beef between them and your backup people, the Turbo Girls.And she says, I love Shanti, but that was some strange tension that was going on.It was territorial and weird.Okay.Yeah.
This gets addressed in, I think, episode three on Patreon, but it wasn't between Sean and I, but yeah, you did pick up on weird tensions.Okay.Did you notice a time when it was fun and then it turned?Yeah.A thousand percent.When it became,
What year was that?I mean, well, I mean, when it became a couple years into the network marketing, it was like, maybe like around 2015, 2014.I mean, I decided that I was done personally around 2013, 2012.Like after we sold
Once Brett and I made a decision like, okay, we want to get out of fitness, I think it's almost like I started to get short timers.Is that what they call it?Like senioritis?I'm like, okay.I was already building MIA.
I was already building my own brand.I'd already had a New York Times bestseller.I'd already started creating more income from
teaching people how to start a business and smart success and marketing impact Academy and I was already like, oh, this is my life.I want to be the boss of me.I want to decide. who I'm hanging out with.
And you know, I always felt like that people thought of me only as a fitness person, like they didn't get it.You know what I mean?Okay.So yeah, that's when it became not fun for me.Oh, this is a good one.Sydney, you asked the best questions.
She said, was there a weird, it felt like there was a weird hierarchy between the trainers.If so, is that true? 1000%. And again, I was already like, sayonara, see you suckers, you know what I mean?
In my mind, but at that point, Beachbody, like kind of around the time I started to exit, maybe it was like around 20, let's see, Probably 2016, 2017 is when I noticed that there was a schedule of releasing new programs.
Again, those of you like know, you know, been listening to the whole series, you, you know, like the whole background that I was intentionally not releasing another series.
So I was trying very hard to like stay out of the radar, but the rest of the trainers, you get paid when you have a new program and it sells well, right?So, Obviously, there are certain trainers that get a lot more rotations.
And they get more rotations because, A, they're either easier to work with, or maybe they have a smaller contract, right?
So if you've got two babysitters, and one babysitter charges $10 an hour, and one babysitter charges $20 an hour, which babysitter are you going to feature?Which babysitter are you going to call more often?You feel me?
You picking up what I'm putting down?But nonetheless, there was a rotation.So there was a release in the new year.So the first of the year, that was a big release, right?Because that's when fitness is huge.
There was a release kind of spring, usually, and then there was a release at summit.And you wanted to be summit or you wanted to be new year.And people would, yeah, I mean, rightfully so.They're like, okay, wait.So if you're a trainer,
Think about this.You're a trainer.You have to exclusively be with Beachbody.At that time, they didn't let their trainers do sh**.They didn't let them sign outside deals.They didn't let them get podcast sponsors.
They didn't let them write a book unless they controlled it and they owned it.Ooh, I'm spilling the tea and I should really be keeping this stuff in a more private location.But like, I'm just telling you what I know.
And they were exclusive to Beachbody.And Beachbody's theory or position was We have given you this platform.We have made you famous.We have given you all these eyeballs.
And so, no, you're not going to use all these eyeballs to sell your fill-in-the-blank.Well, eventually, that didn't fly.But OK, so back then, everyone was like, would do whatever Beachbody said they needed to do, right?
Because it's like that, I want my chance at bat.I want my opportunity.
So they would agree to whatever, and you would have this carrot that was always moving from, I can't give you specific people, but I can tell you, I've talked to a lot of them, and you're always told, okay, start putting that together.
The next thing that we want is a step program or whatever.We want a bootcamp program.So you start working on that, and you know what we'll probably do?We'll probably launch that in January.And then they would get pushed. pushed.
And then so-and-so's program would get released in January.And then that trainer couldn't go anywhere, couldn't do anything but wait.And the later trainers, like I said, had different deals.They had to post about certain things.
They, you know, they had requirements.They were kind of like, I don't know how you would describe their contracts, but they were more like ambassadors.And they would agree in their contracts.It's nothing that they had to do.
Everyone agreed to do this.But the contracts they were presented had them do X amount of appearances, X amount of promotion of other trainers, X amount of promotions of products, Super Saturdays, et cetera.
And then you got paid for that, but you were really hoping for your program. to be released.Because when your program released, then he made a lot more money.But there was a lot of jockeying.
And so I've heard, but I won't go into it, like the tension between trainers, because I didn't experience that.I just heard about it.I did not personally experience it.I witnessed it.I definitely remember
a year when Tony's program was supposed to be the premier program at Summit.And for some reason, all of the promotional content was around another trainer's programs.
I think it was Autumn's, I'm not positive, but, and I, I remember Tony was like, what the hell, you know?And I remember when Turbo Wear Oh God, I need to keep this on the summit.Okay, so let me go to your next question.
Oh, was it in your contract that you had to go to summit as a trainer?Yes, that was a must.Thoughts about coaches running to the super workout to get a spot at like 3 a.m.and wait in line?
Well, I think you probably already have a sense of what I think about that.I mean, I get it.Like, you know, it's, there's something that's like fun to be a part of. a community and you're all excited about the same thing.
I mean, I guess it's kind of really no different than people who might all run in or like sleep overnight to get the perfect spot for a Taylor Swift concert.You know, it's just, it's like, what's the difference?
You're like really into music or you're really into a workout.I don't, I don't judge it.It's not something I would want to do, but I don't judge it.I get it. And Liz said, do you think other trainers enjoyed it or was it annoying to them?
I don't know.I mean, I only know the ones I talked to.Those who really enjoyed the celebrity piece, enjoyed it.I would bet. that Tony Horton loved every minute of it.I think he really, like, you know, Tony is a performer.Like he was a comedian.
He wanted to be an actor.Like, you know, he has this famous quality to him.You know what I mean?He does have like a celebrity quality to him, I think.And so I think he really enjoyed it.
And I think, I think Sean is really, really good with people, but I think Sean is also very much an empath.And I think it's really hard if you're an empath. Because you can feel.You would stand in line to take photos with the coaches.
So they would have these contests.And the first couple of years, it got better eventually.You'd only have to take photos for like an hour at a time.And then you'd come back a couple hours later and do another hour.
And that was great because you could maintain your energy.But when you're an introvert and when you're an empath, those first couple of years, they hadn't had that figured out.So we would stand there in the photo line for hours.
I mean hours, three hours, four hours.And think about how many people you meet when you're only taking, you can only take a photo with them for like one minute.They would give them like one minute, but that's
People can tell you a lot in one minute and they would almost always be sweating and crying because they're not just like seeing you randomly.
They've been standing in line, letting their anxiety build up for an hour and thinking about like, okay, what am I going to say?What am I going to say?And then they come up to you. and they wouldn't know what to say.
And then there were those people who they knew that they were just going to blend in with everyone else that you just met.So they would try to make you remember them.So they would do something weird.
Like, okay, so I bet you're probably so sick of taking photos.Okay.So I don't want to do, you know what?I don't want to do one of those boring photos.So, okay.How about we do something really crazy?Okay.So let's do something crazy.And here's me.Okay.
Hopefully you've had two hours to come up with it because I'm brain dead and I don't know what you have in mind, but like, let's go.And they'd be like, okay, how about we do this?How about I pick you up?
And you're like, Oh my, I would just, whatever they wanted to do, I would do it.And they would like pick you up and have their hands in weird places and you know, or like, can my husband give you a kiss on the cheek?
You're like, okay, just, let's just get this over with.You know, so the, the photo lines when they were hours and hours and hours with no break, that was brutal, absolutely brutal.
And again, the, the emotional rollercoaster that you would be on because when you would talk to someone who's crying and the next person is, is happy and goofy and doesn't even know who you are, they're just taking a photo with you.
So that was not fun.That part I really hated.Loved the workouts.Hated the photo lines.I mean, don't get me wrong.I've met some really cool people.But I don't even remember them.And then people would, the next year, they'd come back.
And this is my absolute most hated comment.Don't you ever use this comment with me.Just know that you're going to get daggers.There was, without a doubt, every single year, at least 20 people would be like, oh, hi, Shalim.
You don't even know who I am, do you? I'm Sarah's coach.Oh, you're Sarah's coach.You don't even remember me, do you?You're like, I mean, come on, just give me a break.Like, help me out here.No, I really don't.Do you want me to tell you that?
But no, I really do not.But now I'm going to remember that you were rude.So now I am going to remember you.Were the Summits moneymakers for the network?I don't think so.I doubt.No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.No, they didn't make money.
Not that I'm aware of.I'll have to ask Brett.He'll know for sure.How were the speakers selected?I don't know the official answer to that.I think it was often someone who was on Karl Deichler's radar.
And then, you know, he had, of course, a team of network marketing executives who, they know what people are popular on the speaker circuit.I know Brendan Burchard was someone who had spoke
You know, I started working with Brendan in 2010 and he spoke at our events and eventually spoke at the Beachbody events too.
Rachel Hollis, I'm not sure how, you know, she was just like the most popular female speaker at that time and she was doing all the network marketing events.So like that was a big gap for them.
I just remember like every woman was like, Oh my God, girl, wash your face. Everyone freaked out that year that she was a speaker that year.And then Hazel asked, did you have a teleprompter?I was always impressed by your stage presence.
That's very sweet.Thank you, Hazel.
Actually, yes, we all had teleprompters and some people have a memorized, like a, you know, like a TED Talk where every word is, so TED Talks, every word pretty much has to be memorized because they have to be exactly 20 minutes or whatever.
I would just look at my teleprompter.So I would put bullet points on my teleprompter and just wing it.I don't like to do anything that's memorized.I would go very much off of the feel and the energy of the crowd.I always talked about family.
I always talked about your relationships.I always talked about building your own brand.And I really, really loved, thank you again for asking, that's the part of someone I loved.I love public speaking.I love
sharing wisdom and and just being straight and real with people and just be real like i just remember meeting some people big big names backstage and thinking what a tool man you come across so nice and you're you're you're actually kind of a tool
Not all of them, but a few.And obviously I'm not talking about Brendan.Brendan, I'd done a lot of work with Brendan and had done World's Greatest Speaker and my team had done a lot of the Brendan trainings.And now he's, I think,
involved with Beachbody to- or maybe- I don't know how that works, but I'd heard he's doing a lot with Beachbody these days, so that's great.His content's fantastic.I really think he's, like, one of the most generous educators I know.Hands down.
I'd have to say my least favorite summit was the one where we had sold Powder Blue, and that meant Beachbody had taken over Camp Do-More, and the fashion show, and the apparel line, and I guess it was my least favorite because I just saw it was never gonna be the same.
Now, there wasn't one person saying, here's what it needs to look like, and being the creative director, there were a lot of people involved, and then eventually, it went away. So that was kind of a sad one.
We, you know, that was when we were in Las Vegas and it was gnarly because we had to come in early.We did Camp Do More.We did an APD or we didn't call it Master Trainer, like Star Search.
We had done the fashion show and then Brett and I flew out of Vegas for one day because one of our kids had an event and we would not miss those events.And then we flew back in the next day for summit.So, you know, it was, it was a lot.It was a lot.
One of my funnest moments in terms of a crowd, I believe was, yeah, I was also in Las Vegas.And at this point, I didn't have a handler.One of these evenings that we had to go to like, you know, one of those parties and it was in a nightclub.
And I had Mindy Lawhorn's husband at the time, Lee Lawhorn.God rest his soul.He passed of cancer some years later and He was huge.He was just this huge, ominous presence.
And then my friend Janelle Seward, her husband, Drew, he was really tall and big too, and they became my makeshift security that night.Like, out of necessity.Like, all of a sudden...
It was right when Beachbody had entered into the Puerto Rican market.And so there was like this huge group of coaches who were all under like one coach who was like frigging killing it.
There's like this one, I don't remember what her name was, but like she had this huge downline and they all came together.And we were going to this nightclub for this appearance and somehow I got lost and I got separated from Drew and Lee.
And I was by myself. and in a like a service elevator.And when the service elevator opened, all these girls from Puerto Rico who like very few of them spoke English and I, you know, don't speak their language.And so, and they're all so cute.
And I just will never forget that they're all like my height.Like every single one of them was my height.It was like a team, like in order to get on this team, you must have had to met a height requirement or something.
And the elevator doors open and I'm by myself. And one of the girls sees me and she screams and she just like literally wraps her legs and her arms around me.Okay.I fall down.True story.Holy Bible.I fall down.Oh, Kristen was with me.
I fall down and they dogpiled me.They all like jumped on top of me. Guess what?It was fun.I was crying.I was laughing so hard because they were, I don't know, it was just like their energy was fun.It was different.You know, energy is everything.
When you can tell, you can tell when people have like a good positive intention and And I know Kristen was freaking out and trying to like save me and make sure that I wasn't suffocated, but I could not stop laughing.
It was like one of the funniest, funnest moments.So it's not necessarily about the crowds or any one person in particular.It was just like an energy, you know?And again, I hope I don't sound ungrateful because I wouldn't change a damn thing.
I learned so much.I met so many incredible people, so many people. have changed their lives because of it.And it was so fun in the beginning.And it was so unique.And it was so special.And it made sense.You know, I've talked about this again, a lot.
So for those of you who are just regular listeners of The Chalene Show, thank you so much for your feedback in the pod squad.We're back open. thank you for listening.For those of you who are Patreon, please stay for just a moment.Okay, cool.
So Patreon peeps, this is just for y'all.I just want to give you like some updates.Number one is Between Friends.Just like a reminder, Between Friends, you guys get an episode every Saturday.
So that means you have episode number one and episode number two.Episode number three comes out this Saturday. For those of you who are vault level, you're my highest tier.I so appreciate you.Like I seriously, you know, you get everything.
So that means as I've already recorded a bunch of these because it's just stream of consciousness.So as I record them, they're already available for you in the vault.
Although vault normally you guys get an episode, you get two extra episodes a month in addition to all the between friends stuff. But these, I'm just, you're just getting everything.So Vaulties, you're welcome.You've been spoiled to death this year.
I hope that you love that because I really am trying to like just go above and beyond for you because listen, I know it's a lot of money.It's a lot of money.It's a lot of money.I need to make it worth it.
Also for Vaulties, you know, when I do these deep dives, those are not part of Between Friends.Like it's not what's promised on Between Friends.You get
Like I said, one episode every Saturday, but I do these occasional random deep dives, like I did the Hollis Deep Dive and the FOMA Deep Dive, and now I'm doing the Beachbody Deep Dive, and those are extras.
So they do end up on Between Friends, but eventually those expire and they stay permanently on the vault.So if you want something
know you want to listen to it like six months from now or whatever you can find it either on the vault or if you're like i don't want to become a vault member this not me patreon has now made it available so you can buy individual episodes okay so one more really important thing for you to know because patreon is part of like the apple app store
If you buy one of those episodes or a collection, like let's just say you want to just listen to the Rachel Hollis deep dive.If you want to buy that collection, don't do it from your phone.
Do it on your desktop because then it doesn't go through the Apple store.You're just buying it on the Patreon site and it's a lot cheaper because you don't get the, you know, Apple app store upsell.So there's your, see, I'm saving you money.
But anyways, thank you for your patience.And like I said, if you, around between friends, and you're like, girl, I can't do the vault, but I need to hear all these episodes.Like I said, go buy them on the desktop.It's much cheaper.
Otherwise, just be patient, grasshopper.
All right, this was perhaps my longest Chalene Show episode ever.I love you, bitch.
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