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A tough call, or is it?It's one more thing.
One more thing. So I'll top off this story with my tale that I've told many times on the air of jumping in the midst of a bar fight and realizing I was saving the wrong person at the end, getting my favorite leather jacket covered in blood.
Anyway, this happened on a United Airlines flight.This is not the least bit funny.Have you seen this story?Maniac flyer vicious viciously beats deaf nonverbal passenger until cabin is splattered with blood.No, this is horrible.
A brutal beatdown happened about two hours into a United Airlines flight from San Francisco to Washington Dulles yesterday.It started when a 44-year-old got up to use the bathroom.His name is Everett Chad Nelson.We should know this person's name.
While returning to his seat, Nelson stopped at seat 12F for some reason and without notice began physically attacking a sleeping male passenger by punching him repeatedly in the face until blood was drawn and spewing around the cabin.
The next thing I know, I hear these blood-curdling screams, says one woman who was in a row behind her.He was just very violently and very aggressively just pummeling the guy who was in the window seat, who was in front of me, and it was vicious.
This wasn't like a bar room, I'm gonna throw a couple of punches.I mean, it was a vicious pummeling.Listen to this part.Was there no dude around who would do anything about this?Nelson rained blows on the defenseless man for a full minute.
before a good Samaritan jumped in and ripped him off the vacant.A minute's a long time.I mean, that's a long, I mean, five seconds, 10 seconds, 20 seconds is a long time for you to be thinking, should I do something?Is anybody going to do something?
What is going on?I don't know.Blah, blah, blah.A minute?People wonder how many people. I wonder how many people pulled out their phones though to take a video.Right, which is common now.We've all seen videos of that.
Somebody's getting the crap beat out of them.Somebody defenseless, a child even, I've seen these.Everybody's got their phone out.Nobody's willing to do anything about it.Everybody's willing to video it. Uh, Nelson rained down blows for a minute.
Nelson split the man's nose, nose open, causing blood to splash over the seat, the cabin wall, the window, and all over the clothes of the people around.Oh, victim was left with two black eyes.A doctor who happened to be on board treated the man.
So, uh, don't really know much more about this, but. I'm just surprised.Was there no dude around to do something?I mean, because if you got a violent lunatic like that, he might, who knows who he's going after next.Something's got to be done.
Where were the, where were the stewardesses?Yeah.I don't know. You can't have somebody being that crazy for a full minute.There's got to be some way to stop it because it could be doing anything.
Trying to open the door, beating somebody, trying to get into the cockpit.I thought we post 9-11 had ways to deal with crazy people. Did we have any clue what this dude what brand of crazy he is?
No, not yet.What's going on there?Because it sounds like he needs to be in prison for the rest of his days.Yes, it does.Attacking a sleeping man and beating him bloody.He's obviously a psycho.
He's obviously got mental problems of some sort, but he's dangerous.
uh... so guy was asleep according to this report so it's hard to imagine uh... that's just craziness while i was like a crazy i was speaking of uh... similar fare are and this is a grim grim podcast i i i i'd like it to be known that i joe was not in charge of this to grant but daniel pennies homicide trial has begun in new york do you remember daniel penny i did not leave former marine
who put the lunatic in a chokehold who was menacing passengers on a New York City subway train.When was that?Was that last year or so?
Last spring, Penny, who happens to be white, was indicted by the infamous Alvin Bragg not long after Bragg indicted Donald Trump in the farcical case that was tried earlier this year.
And Andy McCarthy points out of the National Review, there's a symmetry here.
The Progressive Prosecutor Project is mainly about two things, using government's law enforcement apparatus against the political enemies of progressive Democrats, the whole lawfare thing, and converting the justice system into a racialized morality play, not just law and order, but oppressors and oppressed.
And here's something you have not heard in the mainstream media discussion of this case, which is desperate for the white guy mean to black guy narrative because it was so hot there for the summer of George Floyd.
Neely, the dead guy, Jordan Neely, who absolutely had mental problems, he was a mentally unstable career criminal, he had over 40 arrests to his name
30 plus of them and i wish i had this number in front of me i think it's 32 of them of his 40 arrests were for assaulting people on subway trains wow jeez you get to just keep doing that over and over and over again like three dozen times or probably way more than that because we all know you get caught and arrested for like one-fifth of the things you do or something statistically
Right, yeah, you have to commit many crimes to be arrested and be arrested many times to be convicted on average.
So this guy was menacing all these passengers and threatening them and screaming, I don't care if I go to jail, I'm going to blank you up, the rest of it.
And Penny and others leapt to the defense of the women and children and oldsters that this guy was threatening, like you're talking about on the plane.
And Penny put the crazy guy in a so-called chokehold, which actually doesn't choke you, it makes you pass out because of pressure on your carotid artery.
Anyway, and he held him in that hold until authorities could get there and the guy ended up not being breathing anymore and he's dead.
it's it's terrible you know you don't get the death penalty for being an a-hole on subway but it was clearly an accident uh but alvin bragging company are trying to portray this uh mr penny is some sort of racist lunatic of course and of course the victim quote-unquote the victim's family is trying to complain that this is all about race and everything which is just an idiotic thing to say that's horrible so it'll be interesting to see how this turns out
uh... yeah yeah nearly had the synthetic it can avoid kate to an illegal narcotic in his body can trigger hallucinations and violent behavior can also prompt rapid heart rate high blood pressure seizures and death so anyway uh... of the good news is mister penny uh... his legal defense fund has raised lots and lots of money so i'm hoping eighty is acquitted and be he is not uh... rendered destitute because of it
So back to my story, I started the podcast with, um, I'm at a bar, Katie, you are the only one who hasn't heard this story already.I'm sitting at a bar.It's hardly anybody there.
I think there's like four people in the whole bar besides the bartender.And, uh, I hear a fight, uh, a commencing behind me as a guy who spent many a time in the kind of bars where fights happen.It was, that's not shocking to me at all.
I mean, I, I worked at a bar where there were multiple fights every single night, but, um,
uh i see if i turn around and there's this older guy getting his ass beaten by a younger guy and uh and i jumped on top of the younger guy and i'm rolling around and i pull him off the older guy and then the bartender comes around the corner and we get the younger guy out and he ends up going out the door or something like that i don't remember what happens after that anyway
One, I got blood all over my favorite leather jacket, which ruined it.And two, I found out later that the older guy absolutely had an ass-kicking coming.I don't remember what it was, but it was something horrible he had done.
The younger guy was absolutely in the right.And as my brother said, who used to manage a bar where fights happened all the time, what the hell are you doing getting the
Because you never have any idea what's going on or how it's gonna turn out or if somebody has a knife or a gun or well Yeah, okay, but that's usually not the case those days are over for you jack Yeah Well, I thought I was being a good Samaritan turned out.
I saved I kept a young guy younger guy from beating an older guy who had a
Well, now, to ask or state what everybody's screaming at their speakers and or earbuds, compare and contrast that with the airplane thing and what you're saying about how did nobody jump in?
I think that airplanes different than a bar for one thing.I mean, fights happen all the time in bars.I've never seen a fight in an airplane.
But if you're reading a magazine, watching a movie or something, then all of a sudden you realize there's a physical fracas going on.I could easily see Not knowing who's who or what's going on or what procedure?
I couldn't, it'd be impossible for me to stop myself from jumping in and stopping that guy from raining down blows on someone who's just sitting there.Describe to me the situation where it would be justified for this guy to be beating him like that.
I'm not.I'm just saying you couldn't see what was going on.You wouldn't be sure what was going on.You've been on plenty of airplanes.You can't see what the hell's going on four, five, ten rows in front of you.
You might see a guy swinging, but that's all you'd see.
Well, but then somebody closer than that, that would, I don't know.I wouldn't be able to stop myself.I'm just saying the two stories are not as distinct as you seem to think they are, in my opinion.I would not be able to stop myself.
And I can't even imagine a scenario where you wouldn't absolutely be in the right to stop the one guy from pummeling the other guy who was asleep.
Katie, would you like to weigh in here?Or let's get your brother Jeff on the line.I can wait.
Well, he will be the judge. No way, no way.I'm ever doing that in my life.I don't care if I'm 65 years old.I'm not going to watch some guy beat down somebody else and just stand there.Never doing it.
You're not watching it.That's the point.You can't see what's going on on an airplane.All you see is motion in front of you.So you would be leaping into a situation where you only had half an idea what was going on.
Well, I'm assuming I'm closer, I'm assuming I'm not in seat 95 and this is the second row.
Okay, all right, fair enough.
And a minute, a full minute.I admire that.
Okay, so you see commotion going on, you're going to get up out of your seat, walk up and kind of like see what's going on and then decide to jump in?Is that, you know, are you going to?
I think if you're more than a couple rows back, I don't even know if you would have the slightest idea what was even happening.
But if you like were right there.Like the row behind them, like all these people that were being quoted.Or sitting next to the guy.Oh I 100% agree with you.Who saw what was happening.
The guy was asleep and the guy came up and just started beating on him for a whole minute.
Oh yeah, if you were fully cognizant of it.But you know that's a fairly limited number of people on the airplane.But you know with that caveat.Yeah, I agree with you.Hey Michael, do you remember when we used to call Jack Captain Freedom?I do.
Can we think of a fanciful scenario where the guy might have the beating coming?I'm trying to think of one. Like he had just told him he was sleeping with his wife, and the guy said, I gotta go to the bathroom and calm down.
And then he comes back and says, you know what?I'm not gonna put up with you sleeping with my wife and goes to beating on him.
My point of view has always been, you don't have a, this guy didn't take any vows to you, your wife did, so quit beating on him.No, no.
Yeah, that doesn't work either.There's gotta be one I could come up with.He's the person who sexually abused you as a child your whole life, and you ended up sitting next to him on a plane.
And you held it in through half the flight, but I don't know I'm trying to come again Let the record show I've tried to lighten it up now.
We're into Child sex molestation, okay something lighter sue you were gambling on the plane you're playing cards, and he cheated and While he was napping you decided no This is bad, okay
So Captain Freedom, it was when you called, if you see something, say something.Las Vegas Airport, was it?
Yeah, this is an embarrassing story.
I don't remember it being that embarrassing.
You saw guys, Middle Eastern guys, loading a truck, right?
They might have just been tan.I don't know.
Why would a tan guy load a truck if not for, you know, Islamic supremacist reasons?
This was actually New Year's Eve in Las Vegas, 2001. So this is months after 9-11.Yes.I made the stupid decision of going to Las Vegas where the security was so tight you couldn't do anything.
Finally went just back to the hotel room with like there's no point in being here.I mean you couldn't you couldn't even walk through a casino there were so many cops around and if you stop for a second keep moving keep moving.
It was just horrible because they're so worried about a terrorist attack in vegas.Anyway, I get back to the cheap crappy hotel I'm in it's not like I'm at some luxury casino.
I'm at the motel six and um, i'm drinking beer and looking out my window and I see a van back up to a lower floor and a bunch of tan guys Could have been middle eastern.I don't know but are they're loading something in or out of the van and so I
Jack!Yes.No, he was protecting America, Katie.He's Captain Freedom.Protecting America.
Oh my God.Oh God.So how did that pan out?Maybe they're staying at the room.It's their luggage.I don't know.Could be lots of things, I suppose.
Handful of Italian guys trying to get their luggage into their van.What's the matter?Help me with the suitcase.
Yeah, that's my lowest moment.That was Captain Freedom's biggest overreaction.
That's the sound we used to always play.
Okay, well, I mean, I appreciate where you were coming from, you know, trying to save the planet and all, but oh my god.
You know, at the risk of running afoul of the tangent police, tangent on a tangent on a tangent, if you ever watched old-timey TV shows and movies, whenever they had to portray Indians or Pancho Villa's army or whatever, it was usually Italian guys.
Because they're kind of sort of olive-skinned and they'd layer a little makeup on that.But if you're familiar with Italian-Americans, you're like, that Indian chief's name is DiMucci.That's the actor's real name.You're not fooling me.
So it's probably a bunch of a bunch of Italian guys loading lasagna for their big New Year's party.You brought the FBI on the down on.Oh, man.Well, happy Halloween, everybody.
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