On this episode, Benjamin Gorman gabs with Erik Grove, author of stories in COZY COSMIC and WINDING PATHS, about marathon running, Australian brain worms, and how the most punk rock thing in the world is therapy.

Today’s secret word is: Goat (Dedicated to Frances Lu-Pai Ippolito. She knows why.)

Find Erik here: www.erikgrove.com

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Preorder your copy of Winding Paths here (as soon as it’s available): https://www.demagoguepress.com/

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Mentioned on the show:

Shanghai Immortal by AY Chao https://www.amazon.com/Shanghai-Immortal-richly-debut-fantasy/dp/1399717413

A. Y. Chao in Conversation With Fonda Lee

Monday, October 23 @ 7pm (PT) / Powell’s Books at Cedar Hills Crossing

https://www.powells.com/events-update

Spanish Love Songs album No Joy: https://spanishlovesongs.bandcamp.com/album/no-joy

A Giant Dog album Bite: https://agiantdog.bandcamp.com/album/bite

The Gaslight Anthem album History Books: https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/the-gaslight-anthem/history-books