tment of Psychology, talks to Mark and Kate about why she's so addicted to studying the science behind ultra-processed food addiction, and how she got into it; how ultra-processed foods are different from beer or cigarettes (and how they're not); what differentiates people who get addicted and people who don't; and exactly how foods are designed to reel you in. PLUS: Food stylist Barrett Washburne talks to Kate about where the trends are heading.

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Professor Ashley Gearhardt, of the University of Michigan Department of Psychology, talks to Mark and Kate about why she's so addicted to studying the science behind ultra-processed food addiction, and how she got into it; how ultra-processed foods are different from beer or cigarettes (and how they're not); what differentiates people who get addicted and people who don't; and exactly how foods are designed to reel you in. PLUS: Food stylist Barrett Washburne talks to Kate about where the trends are heading.

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