In this episode, Ilana and Katie get real about the tricky balance between productivity, creativity, and finding joy in their work and life. They discuss how society’s focus on accomplishment can lead to burnout, and how they’re working to navigate this.

Ilana talks about her excitement—and a bit of fear—as she challenges herself to find fulfillment without constantly chasing the next big thing. Katie shares a powerful moment she had in therapy, where she realized her relentless drive to always improve was getting in the way of feeling truly satisfied.

As they plan passion projects for the year ahead, they also address the financial and entrepreneurial pressures they face, urging listeners to explore what truly makes them happy and join them in their search for genuine satisfaction.

It’s a candid and heartfelt conversation that offers plenty to reflect on and covers what you can expect in the coming months from the duo.

All that and more when you listen to this episode:

• How society’s focus on productivity often ties self-worth to constant achievement.

• The importance of seeking joy in work without chasing milestones.

• Balancing ambition with financial pressures

• The value of transparency regarding financial realities and entrepreneurial stress.

• Their leap to embrace change through passion projects in 2025

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