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How unprofessional can you be?Okay, are we recording?Okay, good.I'm glad.Can we make sure you get that on the start of our podcast?Hi, everybody, and welcome to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast.I am, of course, with the Australian accent.
Yes, I am Renee Stubbs, and I'm joined by the very American accent, slash Canadian, slash I don't even know.Sometimes it's Chinese, sometimes it's Spanish, sometimes it's French. When she gets drunk, it is definitely French Caleb Thompson.
If you hear French, send me home.Yes, exactly.Time for the check, people.Okay, so what a week of tennis we have had, but as you all have now learned to love and embrace about me, I watched my beloved
New York Liberty win the second game of the WNBA finals yesterday.And yes, I hope I'm converting some of you.
Yes, of course, tennis is my first love, but basketball, particularly the WNBA, is really starting to be my first love when there's no grand slams going on.
And I sat next to your wife, Claire, Caitlin, yesterday in the victorious victory of Game 2 after Game 1 when, sadly, My Liberty just blew an 18-point lead, 11-point lead with three minutes to go.
Arguably one of the greatest players in the world, Breanna Stewart, missed a free throw with 0.6 seconds left on the game.As you can imagine, she ruminated over that for 36 hours.No, 48 hours.How many hours are in a day? But you know what?
Champions, as Billie Jean King says, adjust and pressure is a privilege.
And she came back yesterday, Brianna Stewart, and played a friggin' great game with her sidekick, Benijah Laney, who also had a great game after having such a tough year this year with knee problems, injections in her knees, all kinds of things.
So this is a team of fortitude.So guess who's getting on a plane to Minnesota?You're doing it.
Hell yeah.Hell yeah.I think at this point the team needs me. Claire was describing the rituals that you guys go through.And I was like, Claire, I think you might have become part of Renee's ritual of this experience.
The high fives, talking to the players, talking to the coach, getting involved, watching the warm ups.
And I do think, you know, even for people like me who do not care about basketball, there is something amazing to be said about watching other sports, watching the commonalities of pressure being a privilege, of champions adjusting, of shaking off an overtime loss that you were... Oh, fucking brutal.
winning with, you know, and you had your star player on the line to sink what is a, you know, an ace in the hole, typically, free throw shot, and just think, oh, sports is everything.Sports is common.Sports is relatable.
And when I watch other sports, especially sports I'm not interested in, like basketball, I do try to think about, OK, well, what are the commonalities?Like, where can I connect with this?And it's usually the people, the human, the experience,
moving on from a bad moment, a bad call, you know, because there are so many commonalities.And then that's, again, where we can sort of take life lessons.
So for me, that's what I look for in something that I, you know, we're all just trying to connect, right?And I think, you know, I couldn't care less.
I was trying to participate in our group chat and I was like, well, I hope the chest passes are particularly crisped today.And basically they just like voted me out of the group chat.They're like, nope. I'm the weakest link.You're the weakest link.
You are voted off the island.I was like, well, you guys put me on this group chat, so I don't know.
You guys put me on this basketball court, and I don't want to be here.I want to be that person down the end of the bench who's just rah-rah cheering and have no idea what's going on.
And coach, please don't put me in unless we're up by 20 or down by 20 in the last minute of the game.
Yeah, I'll be a chaos agent in any sport if you need a chaos agent.
Can I just tell you, though, on a personal note with that, you know, Breonna Stewart, of course, missed the free throw, but she also missed a layup with about one second to go in overtime.
Something she makes, she could probably make... With her eyes closed.Yeah, blindfolded most of the time, knowing where the basket was, knowing where the... And she had three defenders around her, she beat them.
And she probably couldn't believe, she said in the post-game interview that she was almost surprised that, you know, no one fouled her because it's a dumb foul to give.
But also she probably couldn't believe how free she was because she's just guarded like crazy.She's double teamed all the time, all the things, you know, which in that case should be.Triple teamed.
the amount of vitriol, and this happens to tennis players, this happens to everybody in sports, and I put a tweet out, and look, there's been some times that, you know, when I watch sporting events, and I'll talk about it with my friends, about, oh, I get choked, and oh my God, how do you miss that layup, and oh, how do you miss that free throw, and all the things, but I don't understand why people feel the need to go on Twitter, you know, and X, and just be so angry, and you know, tell people how
know, what a bum and what a loser and all these things.It's like, have you ever, you'll never see a professional athlete trash another professional athlete on a social media because we know what it feels like to choke.We've all done it.I've done it.
I mean, I've done it.And to imagine you're playing for a team, you're playing for a city, you're playing for owners.I was playing for myself.I had to take all of that on myself.
The gamblers are going to be pissed off at me if they bet on me to win, right?Okay, I don't care about them.They can, you know what.
But when you go after your player that's placed for your team, or your favorite, or even your opponents of your favorite player, I don't get it.
I don't get the mentality of like sitting down and getting on your phone and being like, you know, even these people that hate Sina or hate Novak or hate Rafa and all that.
It's like, why do you feel the need to go on social media and put that out into the world?Like, I don't get it.Bitch about it to your friends.Yeah.And then you tag them.
So poor Brianna Stewart for two days, no one would have been harder on themselves than her.Of course.And she's the one that loses sleep over it.She's the one that now feels responsible for letting her teen down.
Yeah, do you think she needs to hear about it from you, random person?I mean, this is a girl that's been through a lot in her life.Yeah. openly talked about being sexually assaulted as a kid.She has a beautiful family.She's an incredible human being.
And people don't know her.I know her.And I just, you get your back up when people write stuff and you're just like, they're like, oh, get over it.I'm just making a comment.It's like you are adding to the shit in the world.
Well, I also think the- Same with Coco, same with all these tennis players.It's the same with all these tennis players.
And I think one of the reasons that so many of these internet neckbeards are so keen is the anonymity of an outlet for their own terrible interior, right?Like there was a meme that was sort of going around where it was like,
I take, and I think it was a notable person who obviously got a lot of trash talk, although I'm not sure in which field this person was notable.And they would get like, you should die.You're terrible.
And they'd be like, oh, you look great in your profile picture.How do you get your teeth so white? And then all of a sudden you'd get like a response from somebody being like, oh, oh, thanks.I go to this dentist and hey, sorry, I was a dick.
And you're just like, you know, look, that's not going to work.And I'm not certainly suggesting that Brianna Stewart or Coco Gauff are, you know, one of these awful experiences that a player has with gamblers.
Try that, especially after, you know, being threats of assault or murder that they're facing.
But I do sort of think that that reveals immediately the incredible smallness that it takes to go after somebody and trash them, especially somebody who's doing something exceptional.
And if you're watching somebody on TV, on a field of play at a professional level, if you're going to the opera, I don't care.If you're watching somebody perform What are you doing?You're watching.
That's what you're doing.Have you ever put yourself in that situation?
So it's like, you know, I do think it's fair game to critique like, OK, well, what's Coco doing with her serve?What's going on with, you know, the center legal battle?And is that fair?
You know, like these are legitimate questions that don't call into the like basic humanity and character and, you know, existence and justification of existence of a human being.
And so for me, part of it is the way that the Internet facilitates it, but also part of it is just like, cool, well, what are you doing?
Yeah, what are you doing?Check your stuff.What are you doing?
You shouldn't talk about anybody unless you're doing something.
It's like, imagine if you were going to work and everyone fucks something up at work, right?And then someone's right behind you going, oh, you suck. You suck.You're terrible.It's kind of like... That typo in that email.Kill yourself.
Yeah, kill yourself.I hope your family dies.I mean, this is literally what people are getting sent.
I know for a fact that Brianna and her wife and her two young children have had vitriol like really bad over the last few days to the point that they've had to make sure that they have security and all stuff around them.
That is just so fucked up, you know, in my opinion.So, you know, if you guys are out there listening and, you know, look, we're all... We've all said and done some things, but I'm acutely more aware of that now, going forward.It's like, just stop.
You don't need to put it out there on the internet.I'm going to try my best, Kaitlin, to adhere to my own rules.Cool.I've seen so much growth, you guys.Thanks, guys. All right.So let's get to the tennis.What a couple of great finals.Loved it.
Loved it.Great tournament.Loved the final.I've got a few things to talk about, as you can imagine.Let's talk about the guys first with Yannick and with Mr. Novak Djokovic in another final.But he's just struggling, can't win a tournament.
I mean, obviously, the only thing he probably mattered to him was winning the gold this year.So he did that.Way to go.But I want to talk about not only the match, but the fact that you had Carlos Alcaraz and Roger Federer watching the match.
Just sitting there.I honestly wanted them to just, at one point, they showed them like six billion times on the coverage.It was like the conversation between Juan Carlos Ferreira, Roger Federer, and Carlos Alcaraz was more interesting than the match.
It's like, guys, there's a match.We don't need to see Roger every time.It just so happened they were sitting right behind Sinha's group.So it was like a double perfect for the director to be like, go back there, go back there, camera two, camera two.
But it was like, sitting there and watching them, I was hoping one of them, probably Roger because he's retired, or Juan Carlos because he's not playing, just to whack out a beer. just to go, you know, one time.Oh, yeah.Like Ash Barty style?Yeah.
Well, that's all time.Ash Barty at the cricket.I don't know if you're off footy.I was at the football.
Just chugging a beer.Raising her fist.I was like, that girl.That's cool.Is a sports fan.Totally.Just like me.People send me videos, like our friend Carolyn Mano sends me a video of me just chugging down a beer, not a beer, a drink at the
Liberty game the other day?
Well, on one of my group chats the other day, actually last night, that I'm not supposed to be on because I don't even like basketball, there was a video circulating of you and Claire on TV aggressively booing the ref.
Well, I think your wife was booing and I was yelling at them.So there was a good combo there.Oh, the refs in the WNBA are so bad.That's my girl.It's like they pulled the challenger people, calling the challengers.
on to like center court at Wimbledon.That's why they're gone.Just get rid of them.
If we can have electronic line calling in even the WNBA, touch of the elbow, foul.
I mean, maybe that's it is a job for AI or something.Just get like an AI robot out there just scanning the court at all times.
I saw the touch and they, you know, you know, when you get like a touch, it's like, oh, we see it. We see it's right there.In cricket, we do that.In cricket, it's called the snick-o-meter.If it touches the bat, you hear.
They have a hearing now, so they have a little speaker on the stumps, the little things behind, those three little things behind, if you've ever seen cricket.And it picks up if the ball has snicked or touched the bat.And then it's a glow.
So you know if it glows, it's kind of like a... So it changes color?Yeah, it's like when you get a... MRI.It's like, yep.It's like radioactive.
You're like, you're not hiding that.
Snick-o-meter.We get that, the foul-o-meter in basketball.But anyway, it was a great final, but Yannick Wu, when it comes to tiebreaks, he is, I believe, 19-1 in the last 20 tiebreaks.And that was the difference maker in that first set and match.
Yeah.And three prior matches.I mean, this is his third in a row.He's got Novak's number. I mean, Novak, to his great credit, we've talked about this all year, like, he didn't make a final until... Wimbledon.He made the Wimbledon final.
That was his first final.
He made the Wimbledon final, but it just got destroyed.
You're right, sorry.That's why you forgot.
That's why I forgot, because it was over in 30 minutes against Alcraz, but... He had a pretty bad year before the Olympics, and now he likes playing in Asia.He obviously does it very well.It's great to see him in the final.
By the way, the Lacoste taking over the Great Wall of China and putting Novak all over it, and Novak all of a sudden is looking cool.Here come the French! Love it.I'm here for it.
I just a plus because you know I care about what goes on off the court just as much as I do on court and like Novak is in his last, you know, you and Eliza in the December of his in the December of his career.He's like now cool.
Yeah, finally, but I feel like something clicked and he just cannot get past Yannick Center.
Well, I'll tell you why I can't get by him.Tell me exactly why I think it's because Yannick is just a little bit Better?Sure, but why?Because Novak's 37.
At some point, you start to lose that dominance, and Yannick has that feeling of dominance now, and so the confidence factor is huge in big moments, like particularly in the tiebreak in the first set.
You could see that Yannick was like, yep, this is my time.Whereas three years ago, When it got to a tiebreak, it was like, remember, Novak could not lose a tiebreak.
And so many of these matches, Kaitlin, go down to the tiebreak because they were dominating on serve, the both of them.The court was quick.
Everybody takes care of business.
They do what they need to do.Yannick was almost untouchable on his serve.
The reason that their matchup is so interesting to me, as opposed to like Novak or Yannick versus Carlos, is the style is so different.But Yannick and Novak play a very similar style of tennis.They move very similarly.
They're both very flexible and they both move extremely quickly and in a very facile way around the court.So it's almost indistinguishable when you're watching them because they both play such good defense that it's really hard to kind of distinguish
you know, obviously they don't look alike, but it's hard to distinguish what one of them might be doing to the other.
Whereas when one of them is playing, you know, Holger Rune or Carlos, who can beat both of them, whereas Rune cannot, you can tell that there's a stylistic clash.
Well, I think it's also Alcaraz has that little bit more variety, you know, with the drop shots, with the unpredictability.That's right.He's a shot maker.Yeah.It's unpredictability of Carlos that you sort of like, oh, what's he going to do here?
Novak and Sinner are more patterned players.And so it's very, it looks razor thin to me watching them play.And so that's why I was like, well, yeah, sure, you play better.
But like, what actually is the difference besides maybe just confidence in the extra gear in that moment?
I think it's also Carlos has a little bit more speed, a little bit more explosivity.You mean Yannick?Did I just make up another word?
That's a word.The Novak, right?Yeah.So he, and I mean, we're talking Yeah, microseconds.Microseconds, right.
But that does make a difference in your psyche when you have a shot, right, that you're like, shit, I have to hit this absolutely perfect or it is 100% coming back.
Whereas with Novak now, it's I have to hit this absolutely perfect because it's 80% coming back. And that small little margins is the difference.And also, Yannick's serve is so aggressive.
He got down a couple of times or moments where you thought, oh, is he going to get broken?And boom, he comes in with the big serve, the big plus one.He just is a little bit better than Novak in those moments.
And it's smallest of margins, Caitlin, smallest.I mean, the forehand that he hit down the line to break serve in the second was like, Unreal.Wow.
Well, I think that actually speaks to movement and the microseconds, which is why the age stuff matters, because even as a recreational player, I can tell the difference between being perfectly set up for a shot and reaching and being off balance, right?
And a good athlete makes it look indistinguishable.This is a topic you know very well because you've been one and you work with them.And I'm old now, and I can't move anymore.
No, but just getting to the ball a microsecond earlier and having a second to
prepare and that I think oftentimes plays into confidence and that plays into obviously the ability to hit a laser down the line in an incredibly crucial moment as opposed to being like this is a gamble.Let's see.
As opposed to like nope I got this I'm locked in.Yeah.And if you have that feeling of being locked in in those moments which Novak did three years ago and now it's Yannick.
That is, you know, in a game where, what, five, ten points ultimately separate.
It could be two or three.
And the outcome at the end of the tally, those five, ten points, maybe two or three actually end up being the ones that matter because you're a beat early to the ball and you can set up properly and hit the crap out of it the way you want to.
And those small margins also, Novak making a few errors when he didn't make errors.Yeah, he never used to make errors.Like backhand shank, it was a couple, one or two times, and I was like, wow.
He never gave anything free ever, Novak, when he was locked in and playing at his best. Now, he's making a couple of little mistakes from time to time, and that is all confidence.That is all confidence.
He has not, as we said already this year, he's only made three finals this year, which is incredible.Three?Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's only three.He's only won one tournament this year.
That those little moments of indecision or lack of confidence in those big moments are not coming naturally to him, right?Now he's having to convince himself that, yes, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.Whereas Yannick's like, oh, I'm good.
Even though Yannick lost the one tie break in the last 20 to Alcaraz when he was up three love, two breaks, two mini breaks.That was unheard of, but that also shows you that Alcaraz's spirit is No, no, I know I can beat you, right?
Whereas Novak now is like, I'm not sure if I can beat you.And those little subconscious little moments make such a difference.
Especially played out over sets, over matches, which is now why Yannick is on a three match win streak.I also will say it has been really fun watching Novak play this year.Not because I like seeing him lose.
There would have been a couple of years ago when I would have said something like that. Look at you maturing.That's right, growth.But what it is about him is that I don't get the sense that he's so enraged.
I don't love watching players who play sort of from a place of negativity.I fully accept that that is, for Novak, one of the things that helps him get into another gear.
Well, I was going to say, that's actually one of the reasons maybe why he's not dominating.
And it's why he's so good.
No, I think that's why he's not winning.
It is one of the reasons he has been so good, because that fuel, that rage, even manufactured about, you know, somebody in the crowd, or some, you know, moment, or the, you know, chuck in the racket, or, like, that allows him to get to another degree.
But actually, I just, I like watching players who look like they're having fun out there, which is why it's sort of tough to, you know, get behind a Coco who's struggling, or a player who looks like they're... Can we get to that?
They're miserable, because that, to me, is, you know, you're playing a sport at the end of the day.And that's not to say like, you know, oh my God, somebody, I was at a concert two days ago and somebody made one of the best jokes I've ever heard.
And it's so mean, but I might, I'm tempted to say it cause it's, it's pretty funny.All right.Well you get the choice of leaving it in, I'm taking it out.
Ultimately being the editor of this.But, um, you know, we were talking about Chapel Roan who's, um, you know, this sort of singer of the summer and she's, you know, having some,
you know, real ambivalent feelings about fame, which, you know, fair enough and mental health issues.And somebody was like, well, yeah, she's like the Naomi Osaka of pop music.And I was kind of like, you know, you're not wrong.That's not wrong.
Like, I get both sides of that where it's like, well, you're this is a job and this is kind of part of it.But on the other hand, like, no, nobody wants to walk, you know, watch you walk in a traffic because you're having such a hard time being.
Yeah. It's the same as what we were talking about before.Like if someone says, I need to step away, then let them step away.We've got way too many people that are sad in this world.We don't need to add on to it.
I certainly don't want to watch somebody out there miserable.And I think for me, the main point I was making about Novak is he looks happy playing even if he's not having the results.And I really am happy that he got the gold medal.
And I think if this is one of the last seasons we're watching him play.Well, let's appreciate it. I'm appreciating it.Because we're losing the greats by the second.
Because we're losing them.
They're dropping like fives.
Oh, I cried watching that video.You cried.My God, I did.I was just like from the beginning because I just felt it in his heart that he wants to keep going.
You know, it's like Andy Murray made a great comment when someone said, you know, about quitting and now retiring.He said, man, he goes, and I love Andy so much.And he said, I want to play forever.I want to play this sport forever.
And I was like, oh God, you know, he said, but I just, I can't anymore, you know, physically and father time catches up with anyone.And when you love a sport as much as Rafa and Andy and Novak and Roger, I mean, Roger's same thing, right?
I mean, we saw the tears from him, the Serena's like, it's really hard when you love it that much.When you've got someone like Steffi Graf who retired at 29, basically before her, I think before she was even 30, she didn't really love it.She loved
playing, the competing, but everything that goes along with it was not really her jam.Do you think she ever had any regrets?I don't think so.Steffi's that type of person that doesn't have regrets.She turns the page.She turns the page and moves on.
She wanted to have a family, wanted to have kids, and now her daughter just turned 21.We were texting the other day and I was like, wait, what?Because I was in Vegas at the same time because I went to watch My Liberty beat the Aces.
And she's like, yeah, jazz is having her 21st birthday tonight.Yeah, she's 21.Oh my god.
I felt so old in that moment But anyway, anyway, I'm sinner after considering what he's going through still with this water shit about you know his The suspension and no suspension he's handling this moment pretty damn well And so yeah him so much credit and do we do we need to talk and also can we add that Novak's?
Old fitness trainer is now sinners fitness trainer It's a merry-go-round.And I can only imagine because he was let go by Novak, I believe. He's sitting there going, mm.
It's a real Wim Fussett moment.Couldn't keep me on, huh?Well, look at you now.Exactly.It's a Wim Fussett moment with him jumping from Chin Wen to Naomi.I was thinking that the other day.Or a Pere Riba moment.
I was watching the match with Sabalenka and Chin Wen and I was just like, you know, Wim Fussett is sitting there going, damn, I just left a million dollars on the table.What an idiot.It's like when you go in the wrong line at security.
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Okay.So great.Let's talk a little bit about Coco Sabalenka before we get to Sabalenka Chinwin.Oh, my God.19 double faults.
What the fuck?Let's start with the positive.What a great start to the match.
If you took out those double faults, it was such high-quality tennis.Yes.Coco is playing high-quality tennis.Coco's playing so well.
Going out blazing 6-1 on that first set, just looking locked in.And I was like, well, here she is.
Okay.All right.Miss America.She's back.She's back, baby.And then gets up a break in the second, and you saw it.I think it was 4-3.The first point was a double fault, and it was a shocking double fault.Shocking.
Look, you're going for your serve.You hit it.Yeah, okay.But what was notable about it is that we all knew.She knew. That was sort of what was sad about it because it was such a pivotal moment.It just dragged her into a different headspace.
And I think that is, if I'm the coach, yes, of course, mechanics for whatever's happening as we've talked about, but also the mental space of being like, Okay, when that happens, what are we doing?
Kind of like what we're talking about with basketball, right?What are we doing to adjust?What are we doing to reset?
What are we doing to get past that moment so that you can come out and win game two of your series, if you're Brianna Stewart, or get back to the line after you've just hit a horrific double fault that you've seen and everybody's seen in China, a nation of billions of people.
and just reset and act like it never happened before.But that's not what happened.So what should she have done?What could have been coached into her?
Well, I think in those moments, you know, if I was in her coaching box prior to the match or any time, not necessarily prior to the match, but just get this in her head during practice.
is when you know, and you know as a player, I knew as a player, I used to get a little yippy on my serves from time to time, you just know it.So you've got to, in practice, put them into the mindset, right?
So I would say, okay, a set, you just broke, 4-3, serving for the match, serving for the tournament, serving to, if you hold serve, you win the tournament, or win the match.I would say that right as she was about to serve.Okay, 4-3, first point.
So you automatically, even in practice, get a little bit nervous because you suddenly put yourself into that mindset.
So I would say, because I used to do this with Sam, because Sam, there was a period of time in the last couple of years of her career where she was really struggling on her own serve. to get the serve in the court.
This is one of the greatest servers of all time, right?
Yeah, and Sam had such a great serve with so much margin, too, with the kick.
But she had, and she'll admit, she had a little bit of a problem with the ball toss as well, and she started hitting on the right side of the ball and not underneath it, like her perfect, amazing kick serve that she always had.
And so it became a mental problem, you know?And so we talked about, and so I would yell that thing, not yell it to her, but I would be like, as she's about to hit a serve, you know, in practice, I'd go, 30-40, break point down, 4-0 on the third.
And all of a sudden, you quickly go there.It's the only thing you can do to emulate what's going to happen on the court or put them in that position on the court.
And as a player, you really do have to... You have to... You visualize it.
You have to visualize it, right?Yeah.So I would say, do it in practice.Put her in that moment in the practice.
And then also say, if this starts happening, because when she gets the first serve in, it's still a just humongous serve, and she's winning a lot of points with the first serve.
But babe, if you're not getting the first serve in and you know now all of a sudden you started getting very tight on the second serve because you know it yourself, I would say take some off the first serve and get it in.
Because the last thing you can afford now is to give free points away.And also, your second serve is so average, even when you get it in, Sabalenka is smashing it.
She's taking 10 feet forward towards the service box.
Notice that your opponent is standing still five feet behind the baseline, right? So they're not going to technically attack it as easily.
She's not going to tee off on it.
Right.So the first point of those games, when you're starting to shit yourself, you've got to get the first serve in the court.I don't care if it's 80 miles an hour.Get it in.Because Coco was winning the rallies from the back of the court.
That's right.When the point was getting started, she was the better player.
She was frustrating Sabalenka.She was using her athleticism around the court to get one more ball back in the court.She was hitting her forehand well.Her backhand is always as unbelievable as any I've ever seen.
So you are winning the rally from the back of the court.So don't try and win the point with the big first serve because your only vulnerability is your second serve.So just get your first serve in the court.
Now, if you hit a 90 mile an hour first serve in and she crushes it, Okay, and you hit another 90 mile an hour and she crushes it and you lose a point, you go, okay, I gotta go for a little more.
Adjust to them being more aggressive and better than you at that moment, rather than you freebie giving them points.
Yeah, because the message that Sabalenka gets, who's in an attacking mentality anyway, always, which is why she's so fun to watch, the second she sniffs weakness.
Yeah, vulnerability.And guess who knows more than her?
Yeah, totally.Which is truly, there's so many positives that I constantly think about when I watch Irina Sabalenka play, but the biggest one for me is just the courage.
Because it's not fearlessness, the courage that it takes to, in spite of fear, especially on that, you know, 20-month journey she went on with her own serve.
The courage it takes to be afraid of doing what had happened and happened to Coco during this match of hitting double digit double faults in front of a stadium of people and the courage to change it and to keep trying it and to do better and to adjust her mentality.
Like she worked her way through a very deep fear.It was like exposure therapy.It's like you're afraid of turbulence on a plane so you're just going to go take a bunch of like plane rides through hurricanes and then that's that's ballsy.
I wouldn't do it.But I'm just saying I think nobody knows more about the specter of... Unless you're on those hurricane planes.
I saw a video of it with that tragedy that was happening down in North Carolina and Florida.And they were on that hurricane plane.And they're not just like cruising in there.They're having fun, yeah.
It's like the roads right now in New York, you know, that they're redoing them.So if you're ever on a city bike driving down the... riding on one of those...
Getting here this morning, I felt like I was on a- That's what they look like with those hurricane planes.They're like flying up, and I'm like, God, man, God, who chooses that as a profession?Anyway, back to Kafka.
You got to love it.But I do think the second that she sniffs weakness is when Irina Sebelinka is going to step in there and crush it.
Oh, she's a great white shark.
She's a great white shark, and the match was turned.Yeah.The match turned.
You could see it, too, because she was like, oh, been there, honey.I know what this is.I've been there.I've done 19 double faults in a match myself.Yep.And she even talked about it in the post-match.She's like, you know, I've been there.
I know what it feels like.And once she gets that out of her system or figures a way to get the serve in the court, she's going to be the best player in the world.Yeah.I mean, I thought that was really... That was a generous thing to say.
If I'm Coco, I'm like, oh, damn.Okay. Yeah.Wow.If this player, who's arguably the best player in the world right now, thinks that about me and has been in the same place as me, has been in that same place.Yeah.
I thought that was an extraordinarily generous thing to say.
That was a really great moment in sports for being a generous opponent and a generous victor for Sabalenka.But man, that's the thing I would tell her.Look, it's going to happen. Until it doesn't, it's going to keep happening.
So let's work on it in practice.And then when you start to get that feeling, you have to understand you're winning the points from the back of the court.And I would have said that to her from the sideline.
I would have said, you are winning the points from the back of the court.So just get to serving the court.
One thing I will say, because the last time we spoke about Coco, it was about the forehand as well as the serve.And I will say the forehand looked great.So it feels like that rehabilitation is in progress.Like it is working.Her team is tackling it.
And she sees simultaneously that a stroke can be in season in the middle of a tournament, you know, intense period can go from, you know, absolute weakness to neutral to I would say even right now it's.Oh, it's very good.
It's above average into weapon territory.So like that's great.And I feel like that should give her a lot of confidence.
And I just want to call out, like, one thing I like so much about the WTA tour, for the most part, I mean, obviously, you have your, like, outliers, like, you know, Camilla Georgie, who seems to be on the run from tax authorities, who's like, I don't watch tennis, women tennis.
You know, like, sometimes they're not always nice to each other.But I will say, like, at the top of the game, we have such a delightful, like, truly good mix of sport.A bunch of kids.Yeah, like, sportsmen.What Sabalenka said.
Or women.Sportswomen.Billie Jean would say, sportswomen, Kaitlin.Thank you.Thank you.
So credit to Sabalenka for being such a generous person, not only that, but also in her speech after winning the tournament to Chin Wen-Jung, who lost in front of a crowd of hometown diehards.
Well, do we want to talk about the final?
In a great match.Yeah, I do.
I loved that match.There was some tiki-taki, tiki-taki, tiki-taki shit on that final.
Well, first of all, I have played in front of fans in China, and they are loud and very high-pitched.There's a lot of screaming.
And I will say I have lived in Beijing amongst the mainland Chinese.Yeah.
I don't want to say they are aggressive, but as a language, it's a shouty one. It's not a language that has a lot of... I mean, it's awesome.It's a really, in a way, easy language to learn.There's no verb conjugations and everything's direct.
It's like, you yesterday eat, you tomorrow eat, you now eat.You're just always... it's declarative, right?And I feel like that kind of gives you some insight into the way that... Can you say that in Chinese?
You eat. I feel like I've been attacked.I will eat.I didn't eat much this morning.But it is sort of an attack.It's like, you eat right now.
So that maybe explains some of the mentality of like, we're just going to scream in unison.
Even if it's positive and we're happy, it feels like you are under attack.Sabalenka handled that final.She really did.
I mean, going through that Coco final at the US Open, I think, has made her such a tougher player because she learned so much about dealing with the fans, dealing with adversity, dealing with noise, dealing with... I mean, she took a video immediately after the match and started filming the crowd and started going, yes!
Keep going!She's just an anomaly in and of itself.She's a wild card.I love it.I mean, it's classic.But the tennis, Sabalenka played way too good in the first set.She overwhelmed.
I think Chinwen was a little bit, for sure, was nervous going into that final. Yes, she's played the Australian Open final.She's played some big matches.Of course, the gold medal has made her a better player in all aspects.
But playing in front of your home crowd, that was an enormous moment for her to walk out there.
Yes, playing in front of the home crowd as a... Gold medalist.Gold medalist, as their star, as the person gracing the cover of Vogue China right now.Like, there's a different level of stardom that maybe even Li Na achieved.
I'm not saying that, you know, Qin Wen has the same Grand Slam title count as Li Na. Or she doesn't.Because she doesn't.She has a gold medal and that means more to the Chinese.
It might mean more to them.
So I do think like the amount of stuff on her shoulders, even if you couldn't call her the favorite in that match, nobody would.She, for a nationalistic audience, was under a lot of
Yeah, pressure.And she'd never won a set against Sabalenka, so for her to come back and win that second set, I mean, there was some unbelievably dramatic moments in that second set.
And then it went to the third, and the first game of the third was so pivotal because it went back and forth and back and forth.And finally, Irina played some unbelievably, not only aggressive tennis, but gutsy tennis.She got some balls back.
and ended up winning that game, and then got up three-love, and then it was a bit of a wobble.And then the crowd started getting so loud and so into it, and Norena was just like, oh my god, why didn't I put this away?
And then it got more and more aggressive, and then I don't know what Ginwen was thinking when she ran back and started yelling at the linesman. But what's the umpire doing?Honestly, he was in the right position.
He should have said, you cannot yell at the lines person.Because clearly she's yelling at the lines person in Chinese as well.So we don't even understand.You would, but I wouldn't.Unless it was a lot of cursing, I probably wouldn't understand.
My Chinese vocabulary is very specific to food and Chinese curse words.
Oh, well, you could have understood because I'm sure she dropped a curse word to it.
I can start and end a fight in Chinese, but I don't know if I can have an intricate conversation about the rules, for example.
Oh, okay.But I'm sure she wasn't having a rule conversation with the linesman.And the umpire, I believe, is French.But she was so far away from that linesperson
trying to get that ball back in the court, and then she missed it, and then she turns around and she starts yelling at him.I'm like, dude, you weren't even close to him.Leave him alone.A hundred percent.It's not the first time she's done this.
Yeah, well, then also there was part-time in a match.I know that I'm going to get so much hate.I can feel it already.Bring it on, Twitter.But also she told Sabalink had already hit a serve, and it was such a pivotal, I think it was 3-2 in the third.
30-all.It was a massive point.And Arena hit a serve, or it was 15-30.It was 15-30.So this was to go 15-40, possibly to get it back to 3-all on the third, like a very pivotal moment in the match.
And she tells Arena, no, no, no, I'm not ready because the ball kid was moving behind her or something, but I'm sorry.That is bullshit from the umpire.Sabalenka had already hit the serve.I was watching.
Shen Wen did not put her racket up, did not even remotely say stop until the serve was hit, and it was a great serve.And she was like, oh, I wasn't ready.Oh, sorry.That's happened to me.
If you don't put your racket up and you don't say, even as she's hitting it, you go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.You have to say, stop, stop, stop, and put your hand up because maybe a ball kid's dropped the ball or the umpire's not looking.
I mean, Justine Anna is still getting shit for doing that against Serena in a I'm telling you, that was so bad.
That was so bad.I was actually going to bring up a different match in this same tournament in Wuhan where Qin Wen got into it with Leila Fernandez's dad.Oh yeah, that was not good.
And then Leila Fernandez comes over and is like, stay out of this with my dad.And the umpire was like, don't talk to her dad.Listen, I love Qin Wen.
I know.I love Qin Wen so much.I know.I have so many positive things to say about this tournament, about where she is as a player, about how she's entered this top elite group. And I will.
But I do think a little bit what's going on, like, there's a little bit of a... I know the dad's loud, but you go to the umpire and say he's been saying stuff to me.And the same thing with the linesman.Like, talk to the umpire.There's a...
There's a little bit of an adjustment she could make.And again, I'm not suggesting that I need her to be a locker room favorite.She doesn't have to make best friends.
She doesn't have to do everything in the spirit of, you know, conciliatory behavior.You know, these ladies are out there to win. period.That said, there's a sort of a pattern emerging.
And it makes me wonder about when Emma Navarro over the Olympics kind of intimated that like Chinwen was a little bit of, you know, had a little bit of a toad in a way that toad. I regret saying that immediately.It dates me to... Name of the podcast.
Tude.Oh God, I will have to name it the Tude.The 90s is what that refers to.An era I lived through since I'm now in my mid 40s.But anyway, my point is, something's going on with Chin Wen
And I just want to say, look at how gracious Irina Sabalenka, somebody who is not known for always being completely in control of her own emotions, has presented herself as a sportsman.
Or Novak Djokovic, when he's going ham and screaming at everybody, but at the end of the match, great loser and, you know.
And to be clear, Chen Wen was a good loser as well.Oh, wait. I just think maybe this could be something she adds to her arsenal of charm because it goes so much of a long way and it costs you nothing.It's like being graceful in life, right?
Like, all right, okay, you want a bandectomy?I'm just going to let it go.You want to come at me at the internet?Hey, your teeth look really white.I'm just going to deescalate this.Do you know what I mean?
Like there's a certain grace that I think you can sort of add to your persona that just helps de-escalate things.
And it seems like right now there's a little bit of a — along with the escalation of her game and her ability, because I loved the fact that she got a set off Sabalenka and competed so much better than she had in tournaments past, certainly at the Australian Open, which was kind of a boring, one-way street affair.
It was the biggest match of her career.For sure.
And she had plenty of reasons.
And she's improved so much on her in-range shots.
Well, that's my point.I love the fact that she's gotten so much better.And as she does, I've also noticed a bit of an escalation and some toot.Toot.
So let's just call it what it is.Okay.Also, I just want to not shout out, which is the opposite of being positive.
Whoever is the world feed director of, and you know, I work in television, so I know what they're yelling in the truck, you know, camera three, camera four, what's the most important thing to get?
there was a situation where I'm pretty sure Sabalenka walked to the umpire and was going to say something about something.And we'll never know.And they just cut off.And they just put it on Chen Wen.And I was like, all the crowd.
I was like, what are you doing?This could be the most interesting moment.She could have gone up and said, F you.No, we didn't see it.And then at the end of the match, When they go to shake hands, we see the box.We didn't even see them shake hands.
I'm moving away from the mic because I'm so angry.What are you doing?You have to see them shake hands, which was a bit attuned.
Shaking hands.Well, that's why we had so much controversy about that Iga Svantec match at, I think it was the Olympics or maybe it was the US Open.I forget who she was playing, but I was like, they had some words.
You were like, no, no, no, they're best friends.It's positive.And other people are like, they hate each other.Oh, that was at the Olympics. It was at the Olympics.Again, either way.
I was doing the commentary and I go, oh, isn't that nice?Look at them.They just had a little chat at the net like they were like, hey, great match.Meanwhile, we found out it was not a nice conversation.
Which I want to say I said on the podcast, I was like, no way, those guys, that was beef.But either way, because the camera didn't stay on them, that those of us at home couldn't get some of the context of like, I like knowing.
It just like kills me.Come on, guys.Heads up.The only thing I can think of.Pay attention.Is that it may be the world feed was coming from China.
My guess is, because this happens to us all the time at ESPN, people will write me and they're like, why didn't you show this?And why did we have to see that?And we're like, we don't have control of the cameras.
ESPN, unless we are doing the match and we have the cameras and they're all ours, we have control over that.Yeah.
It's not like you can call
The French Open love to show a woman in the crowd licking an ice cream.And we're like, what the fuck?Why do we have to keep seeing these women in the crowd?
It's because you've got a dude in there who works for the French Tennis TV and he loves to see women and whatever he can find on them.
Like, for example, 100%, they wanted to show Roger and Alcarez 100 times because the Chinese are losing their mind that they're sitting there.
So I think it came from the Chinese TV, who has ever had the rights in China, and they don't want to show controversy.So they don't want to show the shitty handshake because Chin Wen lost.They don't want to show the argument with Sabalenka.
They just want to pretend everything's great.
But the nice thing about sports What?Is that it's all there.Yeah.It's all there.You can't... Someone's going to film it.
Exactly.Which is what they showed.Someone showed the handshake and it was frosty.Frosty.So we finally got a cut of it.But oh my God, like honestly, it was so frustrating to watch.
I'm like, you always know if they're a European dude because you just see women and boobs throughout an entire match.And then in China, if they're not showing anything controversial, you go, it's Chinese TV.
In Australia, we'll find the guy with the beer, for sure, or the lady chugging a beer.The Australians also, they call them gales.
Girls?I hate that.Girls.I hate it so much.Yeah, they'll, oh, these two gales out on Court 17.I know it's a cultural thing.It's not cultural.
It's just lazy.I hate it.I hate it.You hate it?
You sound like an Aussie.
Well, that's one purpose, because I was like, I can do your accent.Can you do not saying girls about women who are playing professional sports?
Yeah, it's ladies.No, no, Billie Jean King always hates when we do that.
Yeah, I do sometimes tweet about it, and somebody will respond back.
I try not to.I say girls sometimes, but I feel like I'm part of the girls.
Being a woman, I feel like you have a little bit more leniency.If I hear it from a man's voice, I get mad.
All right, so all the men out there, ladies.It's ladies.Or women.
So both finals, done and dusted, great matches.
I want to know, you had a lovely trip to Italy.
Did you bring back the drugs? You know, I could not find them in Portofino grocery stores.And I even looked at the airport.I didn't see any creams.Or sprays.I saw neither creams nor sprays.I'll tell you what I saw.Overpriced skincare.
I got some really nice Italian toothpaste because I ran out of toothpaste. I looked, I asked, I had a lot of gesticulating conversations.No steroid cream.I was like, you know, make performance.And everyone was just like, get out of here.
Well, I don't speak Italian.That's another reason that I don't travel to Italy very much because I can plausibly speak some of the other languages.Italian,
I love the fact that you went to Italy and we've had this conversation.A place I don't really like that much.Yes, we've had this conversation.I'm like, what is wrong with you?You are the weirdest human being.
You don't like dogs and you don't like Italy.There's something wrong with you, Caitlin.
I actually was confronted by somebody about this and I think it's because I... I can't wait to hear this.There's a really good reason.
I have, in my older age, I'm trying to accept that my snobbishness is not a good look and I need to take it down a notch.And just because I think certain things are basic doesn't mean that I need to hate on them.
And in fact, maybe there are some things I can enjoy.
Because everybody and their mom is like, oh, it's the Taylor Swift of European countries.Let's just be honest. Wow.It is.It's the Taylor Swift of European countries.
Listen, there's some things that you say that a little have gotten me into trouble on this podcast.But please, God, Italians, don't come after me.You've got Kate, you can go after her.
You have so much less to worry about from the Italians than you do from Taylor Swift fans.That's true.
Someone's sitting there that is Italian listening to our podcast and the hand is moving like, what?
I'm here to say, I had a fantastic time.
But wait, let me finish my thought.You were having such a good time and you could not have been nicer and, oh my God, look at this and all the food, la la la, people and yada.And I was like, oh, she's finally sniffed the glue.
She finally realizes that Italy is great.
It was amazing.I had pesto pasta.Wait, say that again. What?It was great.It was great.I had pesto pasta.
I had pesto pasta that I didn't think was possible in my mind, a flavor, deliciousness, focaccia that, oh my God, we did this photo shoot with Feliciano Lopez that's going to be coming out in the beginning of next year, who, by the way, is as attractive as you think.
Somehow even more in photographs.
And for you to say that, that's something. I was like, am I straight?Like, what?Am I straight?What's happening?No, Caitlin, you might have been bisexual for a minute.I don't know.But you were definitely never going to be straight.
Didn't seem that, but a 20-year... Did you realize that on National Coming Out Day?It was National Coming Out Day, but I may have come out the other way. I came out the other side coming out today.No, but it was really fun.
And at one point we- He went back in.I went back in.We took a picture of him at the Focacceria, the famous Portofino Focacceria, which is run by this older woman who's been running it forever.
And she very gently shooed all of the tourists out of the way so that we could take a picture of him, Feliciano Lopez, eating the focaccia with her.And she just, she couldn't bring him enough focaccia.I mean, she was in every shot.
She was like, oh, what about this one, Feliciano?This one has cheese.Like, oh, this one is fresh.Like, you must try.And he must have eaten, he was a really good sport.He must have eaten 40 loaves.
Because this lady was, she wouldn't, I mean, she was like, do you need more shots?Do you need to come?
You're like, no. I'll take the limoncello.
I think we're good.I think we're good.
But he still has the abs, so it's fine.
Oh my God, he sure does.So anyway, it was a really fun time.We got to play a tennis tournament.The Cease people who are part of the Laura Piana family could not have been more incredible hosts.Oh my God, the clothes.The clothes were amazing.
Everything was just so amazing and fun.
Oh, thank God.And I really am- If I had drums or a drum kit or something, I would be like, thank God, Caitlin's finally realized how amazing Italy truly is.
Well, I'm going to Spain to Malaga for the Billie Jean King Cup.I'm so jealous you're going to Spain.And I might have to stay now for Rafa.
I think you do.I think.Can you get him on this podcast?
Listen.Amigos.Rafa, I want to talk to you.Abrazos, amigos.I love you.Yeah.I'm so sad, but you gave us so much.
Do we have anything else to add to that?
No, well, the one thing I want to say is I want to tell you one story.I did it on my internet.On your internet?On my social, on Instagram.But I did tell some stories.
And the one story that I love that I'll tell you all again is at the US Open, when I lost my semifinal of doubles, very disappointingly, up a set, came back the next day because of rain.That wouldn't have happened now with the roof closed.
And we had to come back the next day and we lost in three sets, Sam Stoser and I. And I had a couple of beers because I had to do drug testing, got a PE.So I had a few beers and without food, get a little tipsy.
And Rafa lost that day as well and he had been dominating that year and he lost in, I believe, the semis as well. It might have been the final, I don't know.
He was doing a million press interviews after the match, which I thought was so nice of him, in the players' garden.We happened to get up at the same time and go to transportation.I was a little tipsy.
I walked over to him and I put my hand on his shoulder and I said, bad luck today, Rafa. and he put his arm around me and he goes, Si, for you too, no?And I was like, I had no intention of having him be like, you're amazing too.
I was just literally, and I was a little drunk.And he just goes, Si, for you too, no?And I was like, yes, Rafa, I am also a loser.
And it was just that moment where I was like, wow, this guy was clearly sitting in the locker room waiting to play his match.And we all sit in there in the locker room, and all the matches are going on, and the TV's in front of us.
So he was obviously watching, just waiting for his match.And he had seen that I had lost.
I just thought it was such a nice poignant moment that this great champion, who clearly had a tough day himself, took it upon himself to actually say to me, yeah, but you had a tough day as well.
Yeah.He wasn't, he was not the only protagonist in his own universe.There was other people existing, having experiences simultaneously.And that's to me always what has been so impressive about him, which is that he is a
extremely thoughtful, magnanimous person who also happens to be an incredible champion, the likes of which who we'll probably not see again in our lifetimes, certainly not on Clay.
But I think he's always been so sort of broad thinking in his press conference responses.He thinks about the sport in like a much larger way.
And he never broke a racket.
He never broke a racket.I mean, think about that.
I was not a racket breaker, but I've broken rackets.
It speaks to some belief, maybe even like a religious belief, a core belief and a core tenet of who he is as a person, that he would always be sort of thinking about the bigger picture.That's what it feels like.
And I think for me, watching him transition to some sort of elder statesman of the game, which he no doubt will do because he is beloved everywhere, I'm excited to watch because I was not always the biggest Rafa fan.He won me over.
And I feel like I'm going to love him a lot more than I ended up loving Roger, to be honest.
Yeah.The other story I told was when he won his last Australian Open and down two sets to love, 2-3, love 40 on serve.And it is, to me, the epitome of his career.
And it is also the epitome of what kids or anyone needs to understand about adversity, how to be a champion, all the things, is down two sets of love, 2-3, love 40.And in my brain, I'm watching this match going, it's over.
He looked like he was going to die.He was sweating more than I've ever seen.He was fatigued like I'd never seen.Medvedev was arguably the best player on the hard court.He just won the US Open.He came in with all this confidence.
And it looked like there's no way he's losing this match.And he lost the second set 7-6, and it was like, oh my God, he's done now.Two sets of love down.Mentally, you're like, that's hard to imagine fighting back.
And he wins the point at love 40, and he goes, vamos.And I'm like, I I thought only this guy would let everyone in the crowd and everyone on TV go, no, no, no, but I'm still going to try and win this match.
I'm like, yeah, but dude, you have no chance.You're getting killed.And he goes, vamos.And God knows he wins the game.And it might have been the most important game in his career.
He wins the game, goes three all, comes back, wins the set, wins the fourth set, gets up 5-4 in the fifth.And I'm watching this going, I cannot believe he's going to serve for the match now. and he plays a horrific game.
He double faults twice in the game.
He double faults on the first point, and I believe the last point of that game, turns around, takes the ball out of his pocket, throws back to the ball kid, shakes his head a little bit, and is like, oh God, and then wins the next game, wins the match.
But it was in the post-match interview in press that is what changed me and my thinking towards him.He said, someone asked him about it, he said, yes, when I lost the game at 5-4 serving for the match, because it was a terrible game, he choked.
He said, in his own mind, he said, oh my God, I'm going to lose another Australian Open up a break in the fifth.And he said, but, I said to myself at that moment, but he has to beat me now.I'm going to give 100% still and we'll see what happens.
And sure enough, Medvedev played a horrible game and Rafa ended all winning. But my first thought when I read that transcript and I saw that was to say, oh my God, even Rafa is negative.Even Rafa thinks negatively.Even Rafa doubts that he can do it.
Even Rafa thinks about the shit that happened two, seven years ago.He still has that scar tissue. Every tennis player, every sports athlete has scar tissue.
But he says, but I'm not going to give into it, and I'm not going to now walk away from the challenge.I'm going to keep trying.And he did, and he won his 22nd, I think, or 21st Grand Slam, because all three of them were on 20 at that point.
That's right.He went ahead.And I thought, oh my God, that's the lesson for every kid, is that everyone thinks negatively.It's how you then respond to it.And that is the epitome of Rafael Nadal.
propose we end this podcast how we began it, which is that champions adjust.And pressure is a privilege.And pressure is a privilege.Nobody taught us that better than Rafa Nadal, and I will miss him some crazy.
And I hope I see a photo of him diving off a yacht in the coast of Majorca at least once a week, because that is where he belongs.
Me too.We love you, Rafa.Thank you for giving us 20 years of the most amazing guts, sportsmanship, class, everything, and I hope Spain win the Davis Cup.Because that would be a Vamos moment, wouldn't it?
Even though Australia's playing and the US, but still.No, no, I'm going for Spain.Me too.All right.Vamos.Thank you everyone for joining us again today.Adios.Adios a todos.Until next week.Ciao.Bye.Thanks, man.
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