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Go vote.Go vote for Donald Trump.This is a man who has taken a bullet for you and this country.This is a man who's been persecuted.They've tried to throw him in jail on multiple occasions.They've tried to bankrupt him.They've investigated him.
They've slandered him.They've defamed him.They've gone after his family.They've gone after his friends.They've gone after the people who have worked for him. All you have to do is go and vote.That man's been through everything.
All you have to do is go vote.It's simple.Right now, what have Democrats called us this election cycle?What have they called Trump supporters this election cycle?
We've been called fascists, we've been called Nazis, we've been called garbage, anti-women, anti-American, the list goes on.In 2016, we were called the basket of deplorables and irredeemable.
It's that old adage of when someone shows you who they are, believe them. At this point, why wouldn't you believe that the Democrat Party hates you?They've told us as much.That's not being hyperbolic, that's just the truth.They've told us.
Why would you want a party and a group of people who hate you to have power? And that's really what this is to the Democrats.It's about power.They're drunk on power.They've controlled the White House for the past 12 out of 16 years.
They control the media.They control the bureaucracy, the deep state.They control Hollywood.They control most of big tech.And what do they do to those who are standing in the way?
Well, Chuck Schumer gave the game away when he said that if you mess with the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.We've seen them do that to Donald Trump.
We've seen them go after Elon Musk for daring to buy X and to make it free. to allow for freedom of speech.And mind you, this goes beyond them and earlier than that.
And when we saw Obama's IRS go after the Tea Party, we also saw during COVID, if you dare to not get vaccinated, they went after you, right?You had nearly half of Democrats wanting to put the unvaccinated like me in government camps.
Remember they were saying that the unvaccinated, that your family shouldn't spend time with you, shouldn't have to be able to go, you shouldn't be able to go to the grocery store, you shouldn't have to be able to fly.
These are people who are not deserving of power because of how grossly they wield it.And what do conservatives want?What do Trump supporters want?What does Donald Trump want?Patriotism. That's what Make America Great Again is about.
It's about dreaming big, as he said, about wanting a better future, of wanting the American dream to be attainable again, of believing in the flag, not wanting to burn it, of wanting safe streets, safe communities, of wanting secure borders, of wanting inflation to be able to go down so you can buy a home, and God forbid, be able to put food on the table without maxing out your credit cards, which has been a big problem in the United States, of not wanting to send your son and daughter to war.
It's about patriotism. And the fact that the left and the Democrats and Kamala Harris hate that so much and reject making America great so much doesn't tell you everything about their governing philosophy and their beliefs and their principles.
The future is clear, right?The trajectory of this country, we know where we're heading.Kamala Harris would just be doubling down on the same field policies.We know what we're going to get from Donald Trump because we saw it.Peace and prosperity.
That's what we had.So, I mean, this is the clearest choice I think we've ever had, ever. in electoral history.Please, all you have to do is go out and vote for Donald Trump.I've already voted early.
I voted for Donald Trump, voted Republicans down the ballot.Here in Florida, I also voted no on Amendment 3 and Amendment 4.It's not that hard.All you have to do is go out and vote.
All right, so now getting into what this episode is going to be about today. There's all sorts of polling all over the place.And at this point, it's pretty irrelevant being this close to Election Day.
But what do we have that we can go off of is early voting data and mail-in ballot data.That's probably the best barometer of what could happen on Election Day.
There's been this whole argument by a lot of people in the media, but it's sort of a defeatist mentality that somehow, because Republicans have been doing historically well with early voting, that it's going to cannibalize our Election Day vote.
But I've got someone on the show who is saying, no, that's not going to happen. because a lot of these early voters a lot of these people who are returning mail-in ballots they're low propensity voters these are new voters
which means that our reliable election day voters are still out there and are still gonna go to the polls.There's even a lot of low propensity voters that could go out to the polls.
That means that we have enough Republicans in this country to get the job done in the battleground states that we need.And why does she know this, my next guest?
Well, because her entire mission at the Sentinel Action Fund is to focus on early voting and low propensity voters, and she's been doing so since last spring.
So she's got the data to back up what she's saying, and she's been on the ground working on all of this, focusing on key battleground states and trying to drive out and turn out the vote.
So we're going to talk to her today about why that's important, what she's been doing, and what the data is showing her about what's going to happen tomorrow on Election Day.So stay tuned for Jessica Anderson with the Sentinel Action Fund.
Well, Jessica Anderson, it's great to have you on the show.I know that, you know, we're all kind of in this waiting game for Election Day with, you know, the stress and trying to figure out what's going to happen.
But you probably have a better idea than anyone at this point.So I'm looking forward to having this conversation.Appreciate your time.
Absolutely.It's great to be here and T minus one day till our lives go back to normal.
I know I was saying I feel like a keyboard warrior because I work in the media.I'm no longer working on these campaigns.So I'm like anxiousness, feeling like, you know, what can I do?Am I doing enough?
You know, because it's an important election, which is probably why you started the Sentinel Action Fund in the first place.I guess kind of like big picture.Take us through, like, what is it?Why did you start it?What's the mission?
Absolutely.So Sentinel Action Fund, we founded it last year coming off of the governor's race and helping Governor Yunkin in Virginia on the state races.
And what we wanted to do was specifically target absentee ballot, early vote, heading into what's now one of the most consequential elections, I think, of our time with a focus on building out a durable GOP Senate majority.
And, you know, at different parts of this year, that looked like having a Senate to be the insurance policy.If Biden was going to win, obviously, then that shifted to Harris.
And now I feel pretty strongly that the GOP Senate majority will be a partner to President Trump in the White House.And to do that, we set out to do two things.First was to change the culture around absentee early vote.
from opposition, skepticism, little antagonism that we felt in the party to embrace.For candidates up and down the ballot to really embrace that absentee ballot early vote was the way to properly engage low propensity voters.
And we could do it in a way that was safe and secure, that emphasized the convenience, and then still held true to our beliefs for election integrity, knowing that when we win, we're able to actually go in and make election integrity reforms.
But we have to play by the rules as they exist.So that was that was one goal for the year.
And then the second was to engage and turn out these low propensity voters, ensuring that our candidates entered Election Day in the most aggressive and strong position as possible without cannibalizing or rescheduling election day voters.
You know, this is not simply an effort to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic, right?This is about bringing in low propensity voters to the election that might not have voted.And Lisa, you're so good on the show.
I know you're going to ask me next how to define low propensity voters.I'll just tell you. I knew it was coming.
We look at every voter that's on the voter file nationwide and then broken down by state is put into into buckets based on their propensity and propensity is just a fancy word for how often they voted.
So they are a registered Republican, which is really important.These are not new registrants.They're a registered Republican, and they have either never voted the last four elections, so they're a zero.
They voted one of the last four, so they're a one.Two of the last four, so they're a two.Three of the last four, three.
Four of the last four, so a consistent voter, you, me, many of the people that are listening, four out of four consistent voter of the last election.
So low propensity is really defined by those that have voted zero, one, or two of the last four elections.And that's about the right cutoff.The four out of four voter, they don't need a lot of encouragement to vote.They're going to vote.
We don't need to be spending money to turn them out. The three out of four, they may be a swing voter.They may have stayed home in 2016 or 2020 because of, you know, not liking Trump's tweets or whatever.
And there's different organizations that target those three out of fours.We really wanted to look at the zero ones and twos and how to turn them out in the absentee early vote.
Again, so our candidates were in a super strong and aggressive position heading into election day.
We've got more with Jessica, but we've got to take a quick commercial break.
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How is courting, and I'll use the word courting instead of targeting, because it just, it sounds lovelier.
So, you know, how is courting low propensity voters different than, you know, your registered voters that, you know, are going to go out every election cycle?
Yeah, it's another good question.
So what we found specifically alongside Governor Yunkin and the RSLC and the team that was working in Virginia in 2021 was that to court and turn out low propensity voters, we need upwards of 30 individual touches for them.
So normal political science would tell you that an election day voter needs anywhere from three to seven reminders.And those reminders can be a text message.They could be a billboard.They could be a television ad, a door knock, things like that.
But they don't need they don't need a lot.They need a light touch.
if they're in a state where you have to request an absentee ballot, you need a reminder before the absentee ballot request deadline goes through to get your request in, that sort of thing.Very basic for a four out of four voter.
For these zeros, ones, and twos, you need a whole program.And when I say 30 touches, that could mean every single type of vertical or channel to reach out to these voters.So text messages, digital ads,
a doorknock from volunteers that look like them, talk like them, are from their community, phone calls, pieces of mail.
So you use the full suite of really marketing, if you will, to create this echo chamber around the voter, which frankly, you know, they're either going to be annoyed, right, that there's so much incoming.Final vote, Jessica.Yes, exactly.
They're either going to be annoyed
uh and then therefore they're gonna vote because they know that they'll stop being bothered um when they get their vote cast and actually some of our messaging says that are you tired of getting text messages from me vote today right um and it works but the the beauty of this sort of program is you you wrap around the voter and you you wrap around them
before the onslaught of kind of the election season of red team, blue team, and you do it in the summer and the spring before an election.And that's when you talk about how to vote.You talk about where to vote and you kind of build in
We call it the education piece.We build in the education piece with these voters before the ads start and before it's taken over our lives.
And then by the time you get to Memorial Day, you've already established trust with the voter with the hope that they know where to vote, they know how to vote, and now you talk to them about why to vote. So it's a different program.
You have to start early.We've started in all of our target states actually in April and May.That way, we have a huge runway to get these 30 touches in using the multichannels.
And in a really complicated state like Pennsylvania with the Senate race there, we're actually upwards of 60 individual touches now, which is, I think, pretty incredible from the coalition work that's been done in the state to turn out these voters.
And your states are Nevada, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana that you've been focused on.That's right.
Those are our four states.And we chose them for kind of two reasons.One, we wanted to fill some of the operational gaps.Obviously, Montana and Ohio are two states that are not presidential battlegrounds.
President Trump will win both of those states handily. And we needed to have a concerted, specific effort for the Senate candidate there.Pennsylvania and Nevada both being overlaps that are battleground presidential and battleground Senate.
So there's a lot of really good synergy there.But the reason why I also liked Montana and Ohio is in both of those cases, Jon Tester in Montana and Sherrod Brown in Ohio, these are entrenched Democrats.And these are the last remaining
statewide Democrats holding office in a basically red state.So they're the last holdouts for the Dems.
If you remember going back to like 2010 and 2012 during the Tea Party wave when we were looking at those blue dog Democrats, remember like Mike McIntyre and Heath Shuler and Larry Kinsella in North Carolina, all those names, right?
Those were the last remaining of the blue dogs.
Well, Sharon Brown- It was at the NRCC during 2010, so- Exactly.
Yes.You remember.Yes. You remember, it was a huge priority.
And this is the same sort of analogy today where Jon Tester and Sherrod Brown are the last remaining statewide Democrats to hold those positions statewide in states that are basically already red.
You know, and we've had on the show, we've had all of these candidates on the podcast.I think that there should be a lot of credit due to the NRSC for recruiting just like really top-notch candidates.
I mean, I've been, anyway, John, my producer, and I have been so impressed with the Senate candidates that we've had on the show and also Hung Kau in Virginia.I mean, they're just, so many of them are just really qualified, really great candidates.
I wanted to ask you, I guess, walk us through a little bit, you know, part of the reason why, you know, we need stuff like this with what you're doing with early voting and low propensity voters is because of the changes from COVID, COVID-era election changes, particularly to mail-in ballot and just the expansion of early voting throughout the country.
Kind of walk us through about like how that has changed elections, how it has made campaigns jobs more difficult, you know, sort of walk us through about what that means.
Yeah, so COVID really busted up the election integrity landscape in a way that we're all still feeling today.They called it COVID convenience laws.So the goal at the state level in many states in 2020 was to use the
the hysteria around COVID to lessen whatever election integrity measures were in place.And so you saw a lot of states move to 100% mail-out ballots.
So that meant that no longer were you, the voter, responsible for requesting your absentee ballot, but instead the state sent it to you automatically.We saw this actually in Montana, funny enough.They had a mandatory mail-out.
And then they actually peeled it back.And so they killed it back after 2022.So now in 2024, we have to remind Montana voters that this is the first time you have to request your absentee ballot in the last two cycles.
You don't just get it automatically in the mail.So. The changes, they're very technical, Lisa.They're not things that I would say the average voter is following along.And voters are habitual.
They tend to do the things, they tend to vote the same way that they voted before.And if there's a change in the law, they may not be aware of it.
And so from a campaign standpoint, we really have to go above and beyond to make sure voters know their rights, that they know the rules that govern how they can vote, and that they know the deadlines.
You look at a state like Pennsylvania that used COVID to just completely splinter the election integrity framework in the state.It's got basically 60-something counties in the state of Pennsylvania, and every single county votes different.
And they govern how the election is operated, including how many days of early vote by the county. So it's not even a statewide rule in PA, it's a county by county.
So imagine if you're in a neighborhood and 11th Street is one county and 12th Street is another, you actually have different rules that govern how you vote in your neighborhood, which is crazy.
So COVID changed a lot of things, but I think what it did in the long run is it woke up state lawmakers and governors to the reality that they need to do their part to uphold election integrity.We want to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
And that became, I think, the guiding principle that you saw from so many state lawmakers from 2022 till today, where there's hundreds of new laws that are on the books that provide security around drop boxes, that look at the voter rolls and cleaning them up, making sure that the
you know, HHS and the DMV and the morgue in the state, that all these state offices are like talking to each other and taking a look at the voter rolls.
And you saw, I think, some great examples, even Virginia with Governor Yunkin, you know, working so hard to make sure that illegals can't vote in the state and then winning that case all the way up to the Supreme Court.
And so all of this attention, I think that's been brought to the management of elections is actually a direct result of the changes that were made over COVID that just opened the waterfall.
And then now you've got governors and state lawmakers doing their part for election integrity.
And then we, as an outside organization, we can come in and make sure that whatever the rules are that will govern that cycle, that voters are aware of it so that they know how to vote, where to vote.
And then we can talk about the issues at stake and make the case for why to vote for the Republican candidate.
And I think, you know, there's a lot of evidence to point to, you know, like, well, one, it's like we might not like the game that's in front of us, but, you know, you've got to play it to win.
And I think part of the shift with even with Donald Trump encouraging early voting has been significant and could potentially end up. you know, propelling him to victory on election day.
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I think that part of the story after election day, if people show up, you know, who are telling you and telling the campaigns they're going to show up, is that about Republicans' efforts and success in bringing new voters into the fold.
Kind of walk us through what you've seen in the early voting, which the polls right now are pretty much irrelevant at this point.It's really looking at the early voting data.
So walk us through what you've seen from Republicans' ability to bring in new voters.And let's kind of maybe focus on Nevada and Pennsylvania, just because people are obviously very concerned with the presidential races there as well.
The presidential race as well.
And both of those states, I think, are really good examples of actually Republicans being aggressive for absentee ballot early vote and to do it in a way that would cut down the Democrats' historical and really traditional early vote lead.
So when you look at a state like Pennsylvania, We estimate right now that the Democrats lead going into election day from what it held in 2022 has been reduced by about 48%.
And so what I mean by that is you have ballots that are returned for Democrats, ballots that are returned for the GOP. When you net those numbers, you have a historical Democratic advantage.
So going back to 2020 in Pennsylvania, Democrats had a 1.4 million ballot lead because of the early vote going into Election Day. In 2022, they had a 700,000 vote Democratic advantage heading into Election Day.
So when we hear these, when we talk about the 2022 midterms and we look at the Dr. Oz race, he had a 700,000 vote deficit to make up with Election Day voters.There was no way that that was going to happen.
There's not enough day of four out of four voters that could have could have closed that gap.
So when we look at the role that Senate Election Fund, as well as the larger Pennsylvania coalition with Keystone Renewal and the RSLC, now Elon's team in the state, I mean, this is an all hands on deck moment to move as many low propensity voters to turn out in the election, to turn out in the early vote,
What we anticipate is that we will land somewhere around a Democratic advantage of about 380, maybe 385,000.
And so that means McCormick tomorrow heading into Election Day is in the most aggressive position that any Republican has been over the last two cycles.
And that, I think, will end up being the story that we look at here, because it then gives him a strong footing for early vote.And then you pair that with a robust Election Day turnout more along the lines of 2016,
where you've got the Trump momentum, Trump being at the top of the ballot, drawing people out.
And I think specifically in Pennsylvania, when you look at the numbers of just how we make up that 368,000 of the likely deficit, you look at both mail and early in-person votes and where the candidates are today.
But then you also look at a second set of numbers, which is the unreturned mail ballots that are sitting on kitchen counters today throughout the state of Pennsylvania that need to be returned today.
And because of the rules of Pennsylvania, they can actually walk in to their voting location tomorrow and return their absentee ballot in person.And so
i think that puts pennsylvania as a really unique situation that the absentee early vote is going to be the difference maker specifically when you look at that blue wall basically being cut in half heading into election day and i think the second point in pa and then we can talk about nevada is that the effort has been so robust in pennsylvania to get
absentee early voters that are low propensity voters, that we've actually seen such a great response that we're not simply cannibalizing or rescheduling election day voters to vote early, we're turning out new voters.
So when you look at Pennsylvania specifically by the numbers, you see that we've got a huge amount, 46%, that are not election day voters that are turning out.
And I think that's a real testament to the program working and the ability for people to vote for the first time or the second time in the last four years, and they're doing it and they're doing it through the absentee ballot early vote process.
Now, of course, there's going to be natural movement that an election day voter, you know, like myself, I voted election day the last few cycles that I've been able to vote, but this year I chose to vote early.Well, that's not a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing if you vote early, but specifically for those low propensity voters, it's probably the only way we're going to get them.
because they're busy and they're likely to turn around if the line is long or if their child care falls through or their job or whatever.And so you really have to open the aperture for them to be able to vote.Similar situations going on in Nevada.
And I think it's worth really digging in on the numbers here, too.We see and we've seen an incredible response in Nevada.And I think the governor deserves a lot of credit for the work that he's done on the election integrity front and also to
basically put the Harry Reid machine that's usually ran the ground game in Nevada, he's really been able to match that.
And so you're not only going against kind of the ghost of Harry Reid, if you will, but also the culinary unions and the larger union footprint that's in Clark County.I mean, it's a huge infrastructure to try to tackle.
And to Sam Brown's credit, who's the candidate running in the Senate today, we have him up 54,000 early in-person votes as of this weekend.He's behind on the mail votes.
So when those two net out your early in-person votes and your mail votes, we expect that he'll be that he stays at a 3,300 ballot GOP advantage.Now, that number might seem really small, he said, and it totally is.
But remember, the Nevada Senate election in 2022 was decided by 7,900 votes.So these are really tight races in Nevada, where literally every single ballot that's collected and cured and harvested is going to matter and is going to make a difference.
I also think for Nevada, you've got an incredible amount of early voters that are first-time voters.Some of these voters are
could be new transplants that have moved into Nevada from California after COVID, which is also, I think, something interesting in the data.
So of the 403,000 votes that have been cast, we think ballots returned for Brown at this point, 186,000 of them are low props.
And so I think that tells also a good story that there's not this election day cannibalization, but really bringing in new voters.
And of course, Nevada is worth mentioning that it's a totally different setup than Pennsylvania or some of these other battlegrounds, because everybody in Nevada automatically is mailed a ballot.
And so there's really no difference between analyzing unreturned ballots versus ballots returned.It's statistically insignificant in Nevada.You really have to look at what the early in-person vote, the mail vote,
And then you rack those all up to get these numbers, which put Sam Brown in a very aggressive posture heading into Election Day.And I think ultimately will put President Trump over the finish line to win in Nevada.
And what's significant about this for for those at home is, you know, Republicans don't lead in the early vote, right?
So to be leading in Nevada, I think it's the first time in the state for Republicans to be leading or even in Pennsylvania for Republicans to be able to cut that early vote and mail-in ballot deficit by as much as they have.That's significant.
And then the other significant point you made is that there's this A lot of talk about because Republicans have been excelling in early vote.Well, that just means that we don't have enough in the tank.We don't have enough Republicans.
They're going to build a turnout on Election Day to get us to victory.
But what you're saying is no, because a significant portion of this early vote of the early return mail-in ballots, they're low propensity voters, which means that we still have enough in the tank of or
you know, irregular voters, the ones that show up every election day, or even of some of these new voters, you don't tend to vote.There's enough of them that you're aware of that can get out and show up and win.
And I think you had made a point to me the other day, you know, so in 2020, Biden had an edge of, you know, 80,500 votes in Pennsylvania.And how many unreturned mail-in ballots are there right now?
In Pennsylvania, right now sitting on kitchen counters statewide, there's over 161,000 unreturned mail-in ballots.
So that would have made the difference of the election in 2020.So basically the whole gist of this is We have the votes, we have the people, the numbers look good.
People like Jessica have done their jobs, the Trump campaign's done their job, they're still doing their job, the McCormick campaign in Pennsylvania are doing their job, Sam Brown's doing his job, right?
So all you have to do, if you're listening to this, is vote, which is simple.Or in Pennsylvania, just go return your ballot, or Nevada, just go, right?So I mean, it's not that hard.All you gotta do is vote, and the numbers are there, and we can win.
Absolutely.And it's not too late.Right.And in a lot of places you can still vote today early and then you can be the first in line tomorrow.Know where to go and be ready with your plan.
And I think if we have a strong election day turnout tomorrow that's more in line with the 2016 turnout numbers, then you're looking at President Trump in the White House and a GOP Senate majority that is his partner.
And how early on tomorrow do you think we will have a good idea of what we're going to learn on election night?
Oh, that's a tough one.The governor of Pennsylvania had an interview over the weekend where he was committed to committed at least over the weekend.So maybe this gets rolled back.Democratic governor.
But Governor Shapiro committed that they were going to they were going to count through the night and not stop.And so I think that's really important.People don't need a break, right?You can slide other people in.
There's plenty of people to help count ballots.And so I think if Pennsylvania can commit to counting all the way through and not taking a break, that's going to be critical.I think the fact that you've got
So many battleground states that are on East Coast time also helps North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, all states that I think are going to be counting through the night.
And then as you move west and you look at Wisconsin, Michigan, Montana for the Senate race, Nevada for both.
um arizona for both you know that's when i think stuff trickles into the next day the big outlier that we just don't know is if it's if it's going to be close both for the presidential and the senate nevada's got a um
frustrating law that's in place that could end up at the Supreme Court.It's not yet.It's a state law that's been upheld, but it basically allows that ballots that are ballots can be counted up to three days after election day.
And so if it's a tight race, then I could see it.I could see Nevada take advantage of all three of those days, right, with their counting.
But if it's not tough, if it's not tight and it's a landslide, then the, you know, the votes out of Nevada will matter less for the presidency.So I think that's the big factor.
But knowing North Carolina, Georgia and Pennsylvania on the early side of the night by, you know, 2, 3 a.m.is a good sign for Trump at that point.
But I think, you know, a lot of the conversation, because of course, you know, the media narrative is always weaker to Republicans.That's just sort of like the constant theme, right?
When you've got, I think it's like 84 percent or 89 percent negative coverage of Trump or whatever it is.
But the whole narrative has been, oh, Republicans are eating into their election day vote when I think maybe the flip side of that, and the better question is, you know, do Democrats have enough left in the tank?
Because, you know, they're the ones who traditionally and historically get out the vote early.They're, you know, tend to do better in mail-in ballots.And so do they have the numbers to maintain the edge that they have in Pennsylvania or make up?
you know, the edge that Republicans have in Nevada.So I think it's actually the better question is, do Democrats have enough in the tank and enough excitement on the ground to get their people out on on election day?
Yeah, I mean, in Pennsylvania, one way to answer that question is the Democrats are sitting on more unreturned mail-in ballots right now today than the GOP is.
Democrats have about over 200,000 unreturned mail ballots that are sitting on those kitchen counters.They've got to do the work to chase those in, whereas we have closer to 130,000 unreturned mail-in ballots.So I think that difference is significant.
And it's a place we've never been before. This is going to be, hopefully, a new trend line for Republicans to fully embrace and utilize the early vote and put our guys in as much of an aggressive position heading into election day.
That hasn't always been the case.
Yeah, there's this clip of David Axelrod sort of freaking out on CNN the other day, worrying that their people just aren't as excited as they need to be, and that they're not going to be able to get their coalition to show up enough on election day.
But, you know, we'll see, right?Because we are almost there.Before we go, you know, I guess, how are you?What's your read on what this election is going to look like when it's all said and done.How are you feeling about things?
Well, you know, I don't have a crystal ball.And so one can only hope and pray at this point.
And my hope is that President Trump returns to the White House, that we keep a House majority, and that the Senate flips to GOP control by at least 53 seats, I think should be kind of our high watermark of a goal for tomorrow.
And that puts President Trump, I think, in the most aggressive
position he can be for at least the next two years before the 2026 election for everything he wants to do, everything from the economy to foreign policy to safety and security to securing the border.
I mean, he needs a strong Senate to be his partner. to get his cabinet nominations through?What if we have another Supreme Court fight?I mean, there's so many things from a policy standpoint that could happen the next two years.
And I think President Trump knows that time is of the essence, and he's going to be aggressive in fixing all of the things that the Biden-Harris regime screwed up over the last four years.
And I think the economy and the border are probably two things that he handles right away on day one.And so I'm hopeful that we'll be at 53 in the Senate, keep the House, and that President Trump will return to Pennsylvania Avenue.
You know, I mean, I feel good about things, but, you know, obviously it all comes down to people showing up and returning ballots.So that's right.It's not over.Yeah.And also the irony is, you know, there's such a loss of faith in institutions.
And he's probably the only guy that can turn that around just with transparency and also just you know, getting rid of some of these bad actors that have led to the loss of faith in institutions.
Jessica Anderson, really appreciate the work you're doing.And then where can people learn more about the Sentinel Action Fund?
SentinelActionFund.com is a one stop shop for all of our work.And you can follow me on Twitter at Jessica Anderson, too.Thanks for having me, Lisa.
That was Jessica Anderson with the Sentinel Action Fund.Appreciate her for taking the time to join the show.Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week.
I wanna thank John Cassidy, my producer, for putting the show together.Until next time.
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