hey everybody welcome to the charlie kirk show it's a very special episode we got jack posobiec mr pennsylvania he breaks down all the controversies in bucks county that the trump team is suing and now after the recording of this episode found out they won and bucks county early voting has been extended to friday so the
type of reporting that we're doing, raising the alarm on social media through this show, what Jack's doing, has made an important impact in this race over in Bucks County, three-day extension.
We also talked to Mary Margaret Olihan about the transgender culture war issue, how it's the sleeper issue, and might, might just be what we need to get women to come out in greater numbers for Donald J. Trump on November 5th.
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I am joined now by Jack Posobiec, who is the host of Human Events Daily and also author of the new book, Bulletproof, all about how President Trump has survived not just one, but two assassination attempts.
We've had a great conversation with Jack recently on that.With Charlie, you guys are going to want to check out that book.Jack Posobiec, welcome to the show.What's up, Andrew? Jack, I want to talk about Pennsylvania.
You are Mr. Pennsylvania, at least in my mind.I think in a lot of people's minds, it's your home state.Before we get into some of these stories about voter intimidation, suppression, Just give us the broad overview.How do you see the state?
How's it coming together?Early voting?You know, we've seen a lot of data come out about kind of their firewall, how that has been.It's much lower than previous cycles.Jack, tell us, tell our audience where we're at in PA.
Yeah, so in Pennsylvania, we've done a really good job there in turning out the Republican early vote in a way that has not been done before.Republicans do not early vote in Pennsylvania.We don't have a culture of it.This is the Rust Belt, OK?
This isn't the Sun Belt where they've been doing it for years.And so Republicans are very wary of this. very wary of certainly of the mail-in ballots, whoever, there's this option that wasn't even official early voting.
What it was was de facto early voting in person because what you do is you would request a mail-in ballot and then you would turn it out in turn it in in person at your county board of election or a couple of these satellite offices.
around the counties.And this is where the issues, as you just mentioned, would later come in.So that's why when we see the split right now between Republican and Democrat, you're seeing 58-32.
So 58 Democrat, 32 Republican, that's for mail-in returns.2.1 million ballot requests went out.1.5 million have been returned.So again, that 32,000, that's roughly 470,000.
total for Republicans, which represents about 15% of the registered Republicans in Pennsylvania have already done this.Here's the kicker.
That's way more than Republicans usually do percentage wise, and relative to the Democrats, the Democrats are way down. So he talked about the firewall.The Democrats were trying to build a firewall of 400,000 early votes prior to election day.
And so early person in voting ended yesterday.
Absentee ballot requests ended yesterday with the exception of two counties, one Lehigh, and then another one Bucks might be opening theirs up a little bit later today because of some of the issues that they had yesterday.
So they wanted 400,000 votes going into election day.This is when the big wave is going to come in.In 2020, they had a million votes going into election day.This year, Andrew, they weren't able to make the $400,000.They came in around $380,000.
So they don't have the votes.They're undervoting.The Democrat numbers are down from where they expected to be, and they're way down from where they were in 2020.We are seeing a potential motivation issue, huge motivation issue on the Democrat side.
which makes sense.They didn't have a primary.They didn't have a situation where they could solidify behind a single candidate.They were sort of told that you're supposed to be common supporters now.
And we're seeing in the data that the numbers that they had expected to put up are just not there.
All right.So, Jack, put yourself and help our audience understand, what is the Democrats spin?So how are they trying to explain this away to tell their base, hey, you know, we haven't lost this yet.We're still going to win PA.What are they saying?
Well, they're saying, look, they're saying we're up.They're saying we're up in, you know, 58-32.They're looking at that split.They're saying, look, we were beating them in the early votes.We're winning almost two to one outright in terms.
And keep in mind, these are not polls.These are actual votes we're talking about now.And they've got a lot of split polls that have come out down the pike over the last couple of days.
Kamala up one, Trump up one, basically all within the margin of error.So everyone is basically saying,
It's not so much that Pennsylvania is in the bag for one candidate or another, but that it is a jump ball and that everybody needs to get to the polls.
Look, I'll just tell you, I've seen more focus and money being spent in Pennsylvania in this cycle than I have in any cycle of my entire life.So obviously grew up in Pennsylvania, spent my entire life there.
And so this is a $500 million election just in the one state, just in the state of Pennsylvania.It's $500 million. that's being spent.So you're seeing Kamala Harris blasting the airwaves.
You cannot turn on a screen right now, whether it's YouTube or a podcast or anything without your Spotify, Pandora, whatever you listen to, without hearing a Kamala Harris ad, she's got a lot of big money.
And so that's going to be driving her people out to the polls.Whereas with Trump, it's much more that grassroots energy, and we're seeing a ton of it.So I'm seeing upper class households,
lower-class households tend to be where you see Kamala Harris, Harris-Waltz signs, but then it's middle class just
Every single house has a Trump sign up now, almost every, and people, by the way, people that have been reaching out to me that I've knew from, you know, growing up that I had no idea were even interested in politics saying, hey, Jack, where can I get a Trump sign?
Hey, Jack, how can I get into the Trump rally?I'm talking like high school friends, all sorts of stuff, people who they know that I'm, you know, kind of in the political space, but just haven't even reached out to me in like 20 years.
Well, it's a good sign for energy.Guys, hear that.This thing is not in the bag, even though this firewall has not materialized.If you are in PA, we need you to get out to the polls.
And so it sounds like if you're not in one of those two counties that still has it open for early voting, make a plan on election day to vote.It's so critically important.We have to have a monster, monster turnout in PA.
which leads to our next topic, Jack.I'm gonna play 67.This is a early vote line in Quakertown, PA.And it looks like they cut off the line around 1.30, 1.40 in the afternoon.
Meanwhile, the governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro is saying, hey, if you're in line by five o'clock, they have to let you early vote.Let's go ahead and play cut 67.
I have a question.I have to bring someone here about four o'clock to vote.Are they going to ask you to talk to?Are they going to turn everyone down?I'm going to ask you to talk to this gentleman because the voting is closed right now.
It's closed.I just want you to talk to this gentleman.
We have the right to vote until 430.I get you.Why is it closed?
Let me explain it to you.
Okay.This process is very slow and grueling.
That doesn't matter if we're online.
It doesn't matter if we're online.By 4.30, we have the right to vote.
The reason why it had to close was because a high volume of people wanted to do this.Slow and grueling.Well, then they have to wait until everyone's.They had to cut the line at 1.45.
Jack, what's happening here?
Well, look, I mean, you know, I love Q-Town.I spent a lot of good times there.Quaker Town Farmer's Market is absolutely legendary.But what you're seeing there, there's two things.
First of all, you're seeing a voter who is told that you could come in person and vote.And as long as you were in line by 5 p.m., that you'd be allowed to vote in person. Of course, the officer is telling her no.
This directly countermands the guidance that was put out by the Pennsylvania governor, Josh Shapiro, this guy who tried very, very hard to get on the ticket, but of course was humiliated nationally by Kamala Harris.
Then second, which a lot of people are missing, by the way, and this also happened, by the way, down in Doylestown, Bucks County.Second,
is that person who's giving out the guidance there at the polling place with that badge on, I don't know if people can, if Phoenix can put that up again, that's not an election official.
That's a Democrat volunteer wearing some kind of voter protection fake badge that they've printed up and that they're manning the polling lines in claiming or acting as if they are some kind of election officials spreading this guidance.
That's a false official right there.That is fraud.They are imposing themselves as officials.They are not licensed to do this.They are not certified by the state. But the county is completely illegal, by the way.
This is something Republicans have had a consent decree against them for over 40 years.And so the idea that they would be out there posing as fake election officials is very serious.
And I'm told, by the way, that in Bucks County, in just about actually 15 minutes time here, it's 115 Eastern, that in 15 minutes time, the Trump campaign is already suing Bucks County over all of this.
and that a hearing is going to be taking place in the Bucks County Courthouse regarding this.I've personally worked to get in three, maybe even four affidavits from witnesses who were turned away when the governor had told them not to.
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Jack, I'm gonna throw out this image.You were mentioning it before the break, 68.This is the lanyard that these activists are wearing.It's like, you know, completely misleading.It says voter protection on it.
And it appears that in that last video, the woman was trying to ask that woman, she said, well, you should talk to this gentleman, the police officer.So I think she's very aware that she may look official because of the lanyard she's wearing,
She's a fraud.So this is one of those things, these very sneaky things that's happening in PA.Now, I have another video here, same situation, but just really quickly build it out for us.I mean, if you're doing the electoral math, 270 to win, right?
Democrats see the same thing we're seeing.Pennsylvania is critically, critically important for either side building out that 270.We should not be surprised to be seeing all these shenanigans in the Keystone State.
No, look, I've been saying all year, PA is the play.The Keystone is the key.
That's why I've been going up and down Pennsylvania, going to churches in Pennsylvania, working with the Latin masses, the Latin right Catholics to try to drive those out as well.
Pennsylvania Catholics being a huge constituency there, one that's completely up for grabs, by the way. since Joe Biden is no longer on the ballot and Kamala Harris is just completely anti-Catholic.
So look, when you look at things, the Sun Belt is turning out great for us.Early voting has been phenomenal for Republicans in the Sun Belt, but on that 270 to win, it's very hard.
It is very hard to build a path to the presidency for Donald Trump to 270 without any of the Rust Belt, without that blue wall.And so here's the math of it. Kamala Harris, if she wants to win, she's got to sweep the blue wall.
But if Donald Trump wants to win, he only needs to win one.Now, the biggest prize out of all of those is Pennsylvania.Pennsylvania only had an 80,000 vote Delta back in 2016.
It was won by Donald Trump, the first time a Republican won Pennsylvania since 1988, when George H.W.Bush was riding off of the coattails of Ronald Reagan.So we brought those Reagan Democrats out.
Now, you talk about the 80,000 vote delta that we just mentioned here.Take that 80,000.What did I just say?They had a 1 million vote reservoir, 1 million vote firewall of the Democrats going into election day in 2020.
We can have lots of discussions about what they did to build that 1 million vote firewall, but that's what they had.So
Even with 1 million votes in their firewall in 2020, it only came down to 80,000, because that's how many Republicans showed up and voted on election day in 2020.
So now on 5 November, on 5 November in Pennsylvania, we've got 3.1 million Republicans that were registered Republican, plus lots of right-leaning independents and probably a bunch of Trump-supporting Democrats.
in the state of Pennsylvania that have yet to vote.By the way, the silent majority in 2024 will be Democrats, Democrats who vote for Trump.And you're gonna see that nationwide, but we'll talk about that later.
For Pennsylvania, it is incumbent on, and this is the role of turning point action and groups like the PA Chase with Cliff Maloney and early vote action with Scott Pressler and everything that Trump Force 47 is doing
Go to those 3.1 million Republicans or just anyone in your circle.Become the force multiplier.Grant Cardone came and he spoke at the recent Trump rally at MSG when we were there.10x your vote.So this is the guy who came up with 10x your business.
Now you got a 10x your vote.You need to be a force multiplier.Don't just think, oh, I voted.I'm good to go.No, you need to be that squeaky wheel and that pest everywhere in your chat groups and your family chats.
And anything you have, if you know anyone, whether it's in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, in the Blue Wall, or any of the other swing states, really anywhere else, and just make sure that you're just driving people out to the polls.
If anyone needs assistance, you need to be the force multiplier who's providing them assistance.I've even thrown out, when I was doing War Room this morning, and I threw out, why not Just have people sleep out in front of the polls on Monday night.
You can totally do that, just like people do for these Trump rallies.Hey, if it's warm enough, if you've got a tent or something, go ahead and do it, because we know that 5 November, things are gonna get crazy, because it's election day.
We know this is going down, and Josh Ferro has not said a word about any of this, even though it all went down in Bucks County yesterday.
There was another instance in Doylestown that you referenced the same situation.Police officers put a line ends here.They closed the line off at 241 while Josh Shapiro saying you can get in by five.If you're in the line by five, you get to vote.
Give the update on the lawsuit that you are that the RNC is filing real quick.
Yeah, so they're following the lawsuit right now.As literally as we speak, the hearing is set to open in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.We're hoping to get an emergency injunction.
And I hope that what they'll do is they'll extend the early voting in Bucks County.That's the right thing to do.And obviously, just let these people vote.
Thank you so much, Jack.We really appreciate the insight into PA.
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All right, so I'm going to welcome in our next guest, and that is Mary Margaret Olihan.She's a senior reporter for The Daily Wire.Mary Margaret, welcome to the show.
Thanks so much for having me.
Well, I just love this piece, and you're with The Daily Wire.We've had you on the show before.You are a proud Catholic, so it doesn't surprise me that your reporting on this is so rich.I mean, this is a really amazing piece.
How Trump Learned to Embrace the Transgender Culture Wars.And what I find interesting this is it was a path that I observed Trump following and traveling myself.
So to see you kind of put it in chronological order and kind of make sense of it was really interesting.Mary-Margaret, you call it the 2020 floor sleeper issue.Let's start there.Why do you think that the transgender culture war issue is
because not everyone understands how massively impactful this issue is going to be and I think the Trump team has tapped into it because they do get it and they understand and their internal polling is showing them that yes, Americans do deeply care about this issue.
Kamala Harris and her campaign often talk about how this is something that Trump campaign is weaponizing, and it's just weaponizing fear, and Americans are more worried about the economy and things like that.
Americans absolutely are worried about the economy, and they're worried about immigration, and I would say that those are the main issues that people are focused on.But this is, as we're arguing, the sleeper issue.
American parents are tired of radical ideology being pushed on their kids.They don't want men in women's sports, and they don't want irreversible transgender procedures for kids.And Trump is picking up on this.
He's paying attention to how this has been messaged.He's paying attention to how people are talking about it.And he's saying, okay, I'm going to lean into this.We're going to advertise on it.
And so one of the first anecdotes we start out in this story with is this ad that the Trump campaign put out saying Kamala is for they then the Trump campaign is for you.
And this is their most effective ad really interestingly, Andrew, uh, and democratic internal polling obtained by the New York times actually validates that it's their most effective ad.
So it's not just Republicans who are realizing how strong this is.Democrats are too.
Let's go ahead and play that ad, as a matter of fact.Cut 70.Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners.
Surgery.For prisoners.For prisoners.Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access.
It's hard to believe, but it's true.Even the liberal media was shocked Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens.
Every transgender inmate would have access.
Kamala's for they them.President Trump is for you.I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.
So powerful.Yeah.So doing the research that you that you've done, maybe you could dissect what messaging tactics they're actually using inside that ad and what's proving effective?
Well, what they're doing is what Trump has done repeatedly is pointing out how crazy, and I'm not just using that word, I mean it in quotes, crazy these types of messaging are.
It's crazy to say that illegal aliens should get taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries. No one who hears that thinks that's a good idea.But that is, in fact, what Kamala endorsed, and that is what she said she would support.
Now, of course, recently, she's been really careful about talking about this because even she realizes this is not resonating with voters.
But all the Trump campaign had to do was to put that soundbite in an ad and say, look, this is what she supports. And I think it's been a boon to the Trump campaign because it's not something you really have to dive into.
It's just there for everyone to see.This is absurd.And some of the more artfully contrived phrases that the left uses, like gender-affirming care, those things actually mean transgender surgeries, hormones, and puberty blockers for kids.
And I think the Trump campaign has been really good about breaking that wall as well and showing people what they're actually talking about.
So, you know, on the left, there's been a lot more recognition that these very radical left policies that people like Kamala Harris are pushing, maybe they need to tone down the rhetoric there because they're not actually popular with the American people.
And polling shows that.And potentially, if Donald Trump wins next week, that win will demonstrate that as well.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to that, actually.I'll never forget, as a small aside, I deal with reporters for my day job when I'm not here.And I had a dinner with a New York Times reporter.
This individual goes back and forth between New York and Washington, D.C.It's about 2019.And he was telling me that if Republicans wanted to win,
that we should run hard on the trans, it's 2021, I apologize, 2021, that we should run hard on the transgender issue because what he was seeing in New York and in DC was liberal Democrat families that were freaking out about this topic.
absolutely freaking out about it.And I think an underappreciated, so you've got the rural or the urban elites, the college educated urban core, but then you also have, I think, minorities, Mary Margaret, that are also impacted by this.
And this is one of my favorite moments of this campaign.This is from Charlemagne, The God Show, The Breakfast
club reacting, I believe, to that very ad that you just highlighted in your report and we just played, saying how effective they thought it was.Play cut 72.
That ad they was running during the football games this weekend claiming the vice president supports funding gender transition surgeries for all prison inmates and migrants in the US.That was nuts.
I don't know if it was- I wouldn't say nuts, but that was crazy.
I don't know if it was a backdrop of football. But when you hear the narrator say Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners, that one line, I was like, hell no, I don't want my taxpayer dollars going to that.That ad was effective.
That ad was effective.Is that supported in the data that this is really resonating with minority communities?
Yes, I've been seeing that.And really interestingly, Andrew, I've been hearing that this is the big issue that Trump can reach women on, which maybe that's not surprising to most people.
It kind of surprised me because we know that Trump has an issue with female voters and Kamala Harris does not at all.That's one of her biggest support groups.
But what a lot of people told me for this story is if you look at polling on it, it's reaching women very, very strongly.I think one pollster I talked to said that for women over 50, this is their top issue.
That was according to the results that he was looking at from recently.He said for women under 50, it was their top Especially when we hear that Trump on culture issues is driving women away.
Well, that might just be on abortion, whereas transgender issues, it really could be something that they're drawn to him on.So that's really interesting on the one hand.
But on the other hand, I think it's really important to highlight that Trump came to this issue because of the grassroots support from families who were pointing out all of these crazy things.
Like you were saying, that reporter that you were talking to, I find that anecdote really interesting because, you know, in liberal New York,
I'm surprised to hear that, but maybe we shouldn't be considering how many parents all over the country were furious at what they found out their kids were being exposed to during COVID.
You know, the radical gender ideology, critical race theory, pornographic books, all of this.
And across the country, parents rose up, maybe in Loudoun County first of all, but then in all across the country to say, we are not going to put up with this.
And Glenn Youngkin's victory in Virginia was a really good example of how that kind of thing can get a Republican elected.He listened to parents.He voiced their concerns.
He said, I will not let people like Terry McAuliffe tell you that you don't have a say in your kid's education.And he won.
And I think that was a real turning point for this issue because that was around the time when a lot of Republicans started talking about this topic more and more.
And I think it was around the time when conservative newsrooms started really leaning into this issue.And as a conservative journalist, I'd like to just give us a little hype here.We all worked really hard on education stories.
And I think that's part of the reason that the GOP and Trump himself has been so bolstered and strong in their rhetoric on this topic, because they had the stories to lean back on and say, no, this is not a conspiracy theory.We know what happened.
This person verified all of the details.This mother shared this story.These documents came from this school.They had everything to fall back on. And they couldn't have done that without grassroots activists and parents and conservative media.
Yeah, I mean, I love that you're making that point.And it was well made in the piece, by the way.
And you talk about the rise of conservative activists in this space, like Riley Gaines, who we have a we have a partnership on the Turning Point USA side.She's one of our contributors.
As a matter of fact, you linked to a clip of her from one of our recent events.Go ahead and play Cut 71.
I see on social media people saying they're voting for Kamala Harris because she's a woman.Well, guess what?I am voting for Donald J. Trump because I am a woman. Thank you, guys.
Powerful.Well, I love that.I love that we just let it breathe, too, right there, you know, because the the audience, you could just feel it was such a palpable moment.I was in the audience that day when she said it.
I remember getting chills because of just how powerful it was being there live in person, hearing that and then seeing the crowd response.
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So I'm in all of these chats, lot of data floating around, a lot of people crunching numbers.And basically, the election is going to come down to women.Historically, and it's holding true right now, women are coming out in greater numbers than men.
They historically vote about 1%, 2%, maybe 3% higher percentages than men.Kamala is doing well with women, better with women.Some groups have So this hidden female vote, a lot of it is their hopes are pinned on the female vote.Is it gonna come out?
Is it gonna come out in greater numbers?And is abortion going to animate them?Now you're saying there could be this hidden transgender culture war vote. You call it the sleeper issue.Dive into it more.Explain.
Are you seeing anything in the data or is it polling or is it just more anecdotal?
Well, I'm not the only one calling it the 2024 sleeper issue.The Wall Street Journal actually called it that.And that's what we're hearing from people close to the Trump campaign who have polling data that they can look at that's internal.
What I was told by one person that's close to the Trump campaign is that they would never be messaging so aggressively on this if the messaging didn't match their internal polling.
One person told me that Tony Fabrizio, who's in charge of the campaign's polling, makes really sure that they're on message with the polling that matches this messaging.
And that really bolstered to me the idea that the Trump campaign is seeing really strong results on this issue internally as well.
Penny Nance, the CEO of Concerned Women for America, she's one of the activists that's been behind this issue since way before the GOP was talking about it, way before Trump was talking about it.
Back when it was very uncool to talk about this issue at all because a lot of people were afraid that it might sound anti-gay or homophobic to talk about it.
But the reality is that, as the Trump campaign will tell you, they're not talking about anything to do with something that the left might label homophobic or anti-gay.They're talking about kids.They're talking about
keeping kids safe from transgender surgeries.They're talking about keeping men out of women's spaces, including locker rooms, restrooms, women's shelters, prisons, you name it.And they're talking about keeping radical ideology out of schools.
What a lot of people told me is the left has just pushed too far on this.So a topic that once might have been taboo has been completely normalized in everyday conversation.
I have a colleague that told me that her father, who never talks about politics, doesn't get into culture issues, was radicalized to go vote because of this issue.And that's what I'm hearing across the spectrum from female voters as well.
They're really worked up, especially moms and grandmas, by this idea that the government is pushing this type of thing on their kids without their knowledge.
And there was even a New York Times questionnaire that I read yesterday where these reporters were talking to each other about how this is a very real fear among American voters.
And of course, the New York Times doesn't really believe it's an important fear or a fear that should be taken seriously, but even they acknowledge that this is something that's on top of mind.
And so that's part of the reason we call it a sleeper issue is because we don't really know and we don't really have evidence right now of how impactful it will be.
But the more I look into it and the more you talk to people, the more I'm convinced that this is going to play out in a much more impactful way than we might have thought.
Well, and just, you know, I want to give some kudos here to Matt Walsh at The Daily Wire, one of your colleagues over there.What is a woman was a huge, huge breakthrough in this.
I remember getting that from like normie moms that are connected with our family and being like, is this real?Like they were asking, you know, it's like,
And I think Tablet Magazine had a headline something along the lines of the biggest advantage Democrats have is that voters literally can't believe how crazy they've become.
And I think you yeah, and I think you you saw that in the in the Charlemagne than God the Breakfast Club clip.This is a guy that deals in politics as a lot of these high profile politicians on his show.
And even that hit him really hard because it just it is with kids understands and feels that viscerally.So I certainly hope you're right.
I hope we're hitting women, the electorate hard with this messaging because we do need to counter the abortion debate.Final 30 seconds, Mary Margaret, please.
Well, I'd just like to end by saying this is an issue that has really united people.I cover abortion, gender, marriage, family, all of these topics, very divisive.
And I can tell you as a culture reporter, I see people on both sides of the aisle on the abortion issue that come together to combat this issue.
I see people on both sides of the aisle that are agreeing on this that never would have had anything to say to each other before.It's a unifying issue.It's a unifying message.And I'm really excited to see how it plays out.
Well, it was great reporting and I encourage everybody to read the piece because it's a long piece.You obviously did a lot of reporting and research on this, Mary Margaret.So congratulations on a fantastic piece.
So everybody check it out at the daily wire dot com.You know, I'm going to be calling you in the next week to get some Catholic insights to Mary Margaret.We didn't get into that, but that was that was my next on the list.
So lots to check in on the next couple of days.Thank you so much.We'll talk to you soon.Thanks so much for listening, everybody.Talk to you soon.
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