Welcome to the screen rot podcast the podcast where we discuss the weirdest and worst content It's been brought in our screens and indeed our minds Shout out to the subscribers on Spotify on Apple YouTube and of course all the patrons have been paying their way obviously the Freemasons the Illuminati and
Finally we have to give a big kiss and a wink to all the ladies who listen to our podcast who are indeed some of the most gorgeous and sexy ladies in the United Kingdom of England.I'm joined as ever by Jake Farrell.So close to landing.
I'm joined by Jake Farrell!
Fuck you, everyone that watches and listens.No one is as creative with their intros on the podcast circuit.Romesh Ranganathan, you can get fucked.James Acaster, you can get fucked.No one is playing without telling their co-host.
an old country tune and doing an inexplicable American voice over the top.No one.
I've been listening to American podcasts and they often, they'll start.So, you know, I was listening to, um, bump, bump, bump, bump it up.Joe Biden a few months ago.
Joe Biden.Joe Biden's the American president.It's close.
Again, it's close.It's going to be one of those records today.I was listening to a lot of Joe Biden previously and that's mad.That's
Crazy stuff.Then I've started listening to chilled out ones.I've started listening to more relaxed ones which start with a bit of guitar, a bit of air.So I thought this week we'd start with that.Welcome to The Screamer Podcast, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the show.Jake's here, as always.Now, I'm going to pause our intro. to say two things regarding the intro.We're getting a lot of new listeners all the time.Welcome to the show.If this is your first time, welcome to the show.
Yes, we are going to discuss what we say we're going to discuss in the title of the episode.If you've come here because we're going to talk about this content creator, we're going to get to that. There's going to be 10 minutes of shit first.
Yeah.Yeah.Now, just in case the bit with the American country music didn't make that clear.
Regular listeners will know that.Regular listeners, I think, enjoy that.Some of them do.
New listeners often get freaked out.There was a woman on the YouTube the other day who Who got freaked out?I think it's fair to say.Do you know who I'm talking about?Do you know who I'm talking about?I do know who you're talking about.
Yeah, so there was someone who was like, based take, it doesn't actually start till 12 minutes.I don't know what based take means, but yeah, it doesn't.But also, she didn't like that I was doing a big wink and a kiss to the ladies at the start.
Yeah, I can't imagine why.
It's a joke!And she took it so seriously, she was like, it just feels like you're Do you remember the phrase she used?She was like, you're up for it or you're looking for action.That's what she said.
She was like, it feels like you guys are looking for action.Look at the state of us.Do you think we can even handle action?The state we're in?
I just think that a lot of the YouTube comments are from mad people that have clearly got too much time on their hands and they don't know what they're talking about.
And at least that's what I'm choosing to believe because a lot of them are calling me bald. So I'm saying that they're kind of bedroom keyboard warriors that don't have a clue what they're talking about.
And I've got a full and vibrant head of hair and everyone can see that.
And if the professional trolls on the internet want to say any different, they're going to be ignored.
Yeah.And do you know what? Think of my mental health.
Think of his mental health.
Because the thing that is most detrimental to my mental health is this podcast already, is the act of making the podcast.
His menti-h is on the blink.
And the only way that that is offset is if we get good feedback from listeners who are enjoying it.
Yeah, or money.Either one's good.That's one thing people never say about menti-h.Money fucking helps it.Now, let's get into the meat of this intro. What's your week been like?
You had a holiday, you went to Barcelona with the Catalonians, and you said it was a bit busy.
Yeah, a bit busy for my taste.It's one of those where it's so nice that everyone wants to go there.The Barcelonans are fucked off with everyone going there and pouring money into their economy, so they're all making money hand over fist.
How dare you give us €7.50 for Patatas Bravas four times a day? How dare you on Los Ramblas?Everyone goes on about, have you been to Los Ramblas?It's fucking Oxford Street with a pedestrianised bin in the middle.
We actually didn't go because we'd received that intel.I was like, should we go?And people were like, no, you don't want to go there.
But yeah, I mean, like, also, if we started moaning about it, I tripped over about 10 Spanish exchange students on the way here.
And that's all I want to do.Just let me do that in peace.Stop daubing graffiti over the walls that said tourists go home.Also, I will say, I was there with three of my closest mates, two of whom don't listen because they've got lives.
And they are incredibly, I would say, friendly to the kind of Irish sensibility, which is we were never more than 30 minutes away from a treat.Do you know what I mean?We were never more than 30 minutes away from a beer, a coffee,
or in my case, a cigarette, because I wasn't with the missus.
Or a slice of jambon.Yeah, jambon Iberico, but it was great.So that was good.Came back and look, long story short, I'm on the housing committee of the place where I live.It's full of absolute psychos.
I got a seven page memo about the housing committee sent to a WhatsApp group I'm part of at six o'clock this morning.So I find myself on the bus to work.
writing an email message to these, like, pensioners about having to leave the WhatsApp group because of my mental health.
Did you actually say that?
I was just like, I don't have the energy or time to engage with this.
You're sending me fucking mental.Stop talking about when the bins go out.
And on the other, on my other WhatsApp, I can see messages pinging and they're from fucking you about ruining this podcast in various ways.I've turned down loads of money.We've been offered loads of money, but I've turned it down.
Well, we have actually turned things down actually to keep you fuckers happy, so yeah.
And I would say that we do this all for the Patreons, right?And no, all the listeners.
Well, anyone that listens.I'm sorry, I'm stressed to be like, no, we love you all.
No, we do love you all, you're right.Especially the ones who pay.But the ones we pay a little bit more.And what I will say is that I've got two small announcements for the listeners.Hit me.The first is about some merch.
Now, I've been in touch with a supplier, who's my sister-in-law, and she is currently making 50 limited edition Rotter friendship bracelets.
Now, if people want them, it'll be a charity thing, some kind of charity thing, I don't know.The charity being Jacob's Bank Balance, my bank balance.
Yeah, maybe ask me about that before we record.Fucking charity.
But if they're gonna be orange and blue like the hats and if there's demand for them, then she's only Working with special needs young people in the school.Her job's not important.
She can stay home and do the charity bit The second thing merch related is as you know, if you join the patreon at the $5.99 tier you get a limited edition strictly limited edition rotter hat and
They're limited edition because we keep having more patrons than we expect.We always be like, no, we're not gonna do any more.And then we're like, nah, let's order some more from China.The woman in China hates me.I cannot stress this enough.
She's so close to blocking me.So yeah, get signed up fast to get the last of the hats before she blocks me and it's all over.
And we had a situation where unbelievably, like three weeks into starting the Patreon, we've had someone join from Australia.
which I cannot stress enough.We don't know how it got there.Now I did meet a couple of Australians at the live show, but they lived in London at the time.I don't know if they've moved back and this is what has happened.
Anyway, we did not make clear that we cannot be sending the hats, which are, when in China, way closer to Australia.
The hat's going back across the fucking Pacific Ocean.Be like, hang on a minute, lads.
Now, we didn't think this was an issue we were going to have to deal with.Now, Nick Butler is the name of the patron and we want to give him a shout out because he's been really good about it.
We said to him, sorry mate, this is going to cost it more to send you this one hat back than the whole shipment took to get to us.And he kindly said, look, I'm not in it for the hat.He actually said he was doing it to fund the Electrobong Habit.
And to be fair, you've, you're trying to- Can I quickly say about the Electrobong Habit?
Please, go ahead.A listener called Paul sent me one.
So I mentioned on the pod a few weeks ago, I'm going to stay on your point about the guy in Australia, but I just want to very quickly say, I mentioned on the pod a few weeks, a few months ago now, that what I've done in the past is people have paid me to help them write their best man speech.
As a professional comedian, professional comedy writer, I do do that.Paul got in touch, was like, would you do that?I was like, yes.And he said, he's a rotter.And I was like, because you're a rotter, mate, I'm just going to do it free of charge.
I did it free of charge.Paul very kindly sent me an electro bong in the post.I was happily puffing away at that for most of the summer. Then I read an article about how a lot of these bongs, electro bongs, are fake.
They're fake, they're like a rip-off of like the big brand American Californian ones, and they actually contain the zombie drug spice.
I checked the one that Paul sent me, I'm so sorry Paul, I probably should have messaged you about this before I said this, it is fake and I'm worried it had spice in it, so yeah I've quit the electro bongs.
So thanks to Matt from Australia for helping Paul send me Spice.
Paul can't listen to this because he's hallucinating that he's flying over the Brooklyn Bridge now.
Paul's trying to dive down the porcelain bowl of a toilet.Right, so there's a geezer in Australia who bought a hat and said don't worry about sending it to me, it's just so expensive.
So it's a big shout out to Nick, big thanks to him.But here's the thing, right.I don't want to let Nick down.And I'm wondering, is there any way that any of the Rotters can help us get the hat to Nick, rather.
Are you going to Australia in the coming weeks or months?
That's why I keep interrupting.Australia's such a big place.Is anyone going to Australia?
I don't think we can use the Australian postal system when it gets there.
It's like saying, is anyone going to Europe?Look, it's closer than fucking London, all right? And we'll worry about how we get it to, um, or I don't know which prison Nick's in either.No, I'm joking.
Um, like we, we can worry about getting it to Nick when it gets down under.Yeah.To the land down under.All right.But can we do it?
And then can we get a picture of Nick wearing the Rotter hat in Australia, ideally with a kangaroo, but doesn't have to be with a kangaroo.Um, so get in touch with us via Instagram, I guess.
Instagram, Patreon, whatever we really do.
yeah um and uh we read it all very big of you uh so yeah that's what we're looking to do and a big shout out to to nick again for a being a patron b being understanding and c being an aussie and i just want to quickly say there's also a geezer in america called matt who wants one um he's demanding that we send it to him is he he's asking if it's possible um so yeah if anyone's going to america running a fucking travel agent right fucking 12 minutes in let's start let's say
this week ladies and gentlemen um i know we're talking a lot of patreon stuff and i don't want this to feel like too much of a hard sell because if you're not paying for the patreon we still massively appreciate you listening but what we do is if you're in the top tier of the patreon you can suggest who we talk about in the next episode if you're on any tier of the patreon whatever you're paying we let you vote on who we cover next there was a fucking tight election there was a tough vote
There's a Brexit-style vote.It was Jeremy Fragrance versus the guy that we're covering this week.Jeremy Fragrance just about lost, but I think we're going to cover him soon anyway.
The winner of the Patreon vote and the person we're going to be covering this week, he is an architect of being a twat on social media.I can't stand this guy.Every time the Patreons vote, they just want blood, don't they?
Yeah, they want to inflict someone bad on us and they want a two-footed Ben Thatcher style elbow challenge on Pedro Mendes.
And let me tell you now, here comes Lee Catamon.This week we are talking about... Jack Jones! Oi, get on this.
I will, but I'm reluctant.Get on it.
Jack Jones TV, to use his full title.
To use his government name.
Jack Jones TV.Jack Jones TV, viral prankster.
Viral... I fucking hate the word prankster.I'm not saying it's the wrong word.
This is my kind of... I know what you mean, but he is proof.Pranks are never funny. Pranks are never good.Pranks are never funny.And I think Jack Jones TV is the most 2010 man in the world.
He is such a part of that part of British culture.He's such a relic from that era.
From the Balls of Steel era.
The Balls of Steel era, the Dapper Laughs era.
And it was, what was the platform of the sixth or second... Vine.Vine.It was Vine.Vine was all pranks.
Do you remember that?It was.
Most of Dapper Laughs' stuff, and I know this is an episode about Jack Jones TV, but we know Jack Jones' pranks, most of Dapper Laughs' stuff, people forget it now, they think of Dapper Laughs as just this kind of like, you know...
somewhat right-wing, nasty guy, but it was pranks.And back then, there was a real thing in Britain about pranks.Around that kind of 2010s, 2014 era, pranks were a big thing.
And Jack Jones, I mean, I think this is the title of a song by maybe The Offspring, he was the original prankster. Do you know what I'm talking about?
But that was Jack Jones TV!And he built notoriety.
And let me just quote the scholar Offspring.
I think it was the Offspring.
What a band.Didn't know I'd imagine them to come up with a conversation like that.
But again, they were kind of part of that time, weren't they?And for me, it really
It takes me back to being a kind of like late teens, you know, I'd spent a lot of the time 10 years prior to that watching Kerrang!on TV and that kind of thing.
And then you get to this time, smartphones are suddenly a thing, people are walking around filming themselves for the first time ever.
Which led to, of course, the scourge of the tabloid press at the time.Do you remember what I'm talking about?No.Happy slapping.
Happy, there you go!This is so that era of Britain.
Asbos, David Cameron, happy slapping.
Yeah, Cameron coming in.Do you get that with Jack Jones TV?It's such a period of that time.It's so Facebook.
I know he was mainly Vine, but it was Facebook as well.It was that time.
And there's also something very middle-aged about it, where it's almost like his function is not to actually bring people joy or make people laugh, it's to make old people angry, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, there was something about that kind of...
yeah let's antagonize the older generation and it's almost a bit kind of like that it's funny that I didn't plan that at all but this sort of pop punk kind of like yeah it's yank it's baseball cap on let's let's wind up some people older than us which was kind of you know happy slapping it was the whole thing yeah there was a kind of I don't want to say cultural but almost a generational war and it's like we've got the phones they haven't
It was while our generation still used Facebook, before Facebook became exclusively for your old aunt who wants to stop the boats, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, before dogs and paedophile memes were the only two things on Facebook.Well, we will get into that.
But yeah, so that's Jack Jones TV.He has obviously continued, right?That was his heyday.That was his peak.And I like stuff like this when we can talk about someone who's had an arc already.
Because this guy, you know, he's definitely had an arc.
He's had a, that's fair to say.He's like a Greek tragedy.
Yeah, he is.And I, yeah, he's a prankster.He's definitely a product of a bygone era.And I'm being careful because I think a few of the subjects we've done recently we've just really not liked.Right.HS Tiki Toki we were terrified.
Porky Parry that we did last week with John Kearns, we had a lot of love for Porky.But a few of the ones before that we were just kind of roasting them.Jack Jones TV, I'm really going to try and find something to love.
It's not going to be easy!What are your thoughts on him?
I think it's just that thing of a bloke who's maybe been told he's a bit of a character by his parents when he's younger or by people around him.
Now, I think you've hit something very important very early.
I think he was told that by his parents.
I don't think he was told that by other people.This is no class clown.I think we have to be really, really specific with that.This guy was not making anyone laugh.
No, and that's the thing.He is the most... I just had to try and find something to laugh.He's one of the most stupid, unfunny people I've ever seen.
And I actually... Fuck what I just said.I'm not going to try and love him. Do you know why?He's horrible.He's said things in the past that are transphobic, that are homophobic.
He's said things in the past that are Islamophobic, and now he has a girlfriend who I think is from a background, like that kind of background.And so he does pretend to be a Muslim now. He uses the word inshallah.
I'm slightly concerned that the podcast is just like us being like what are the kids doing man?But like every time we're right, but I know but he's his audience are children.
They must be they were Like he's Like you say they've grown up on Jack Jones He's been a bit of a body transformation as well used to be a slightly larger chap, and he's now I think he was fairly like
I mean, we don't want to body shame.We're not exactly in the shape of our lives.I think he was a fairly normal shaped guy.
Not after the amount of fucking snacks we do when we're in here.
I think he got successful and as he got successful, he put on a bit of weight.And then I think he's done a kind of weight loss journey now.But it's all kind of entrenched in that kind of like, I'm doing boxing because of mental health.
Do you know what I mean?It's all just that.He also puts a lot of filters on and you can't really tell what's real.
He comes from this weird substrata of people now, where when you Google him, it's kind of like his content, and like with HS Tiki Toki, then about four articles on the Daily Mail about something that he's done that was a bit naughty, but basically has no influence on his ability to attract an audience.
Because they don't give a fuck, do they?
I don't, yeah I think you're right, I think when he does something cancelable it doesn't hurt him.
These people are like fucking bulletproof man, they do stuff, they do more stuff than like, but I guess it's just they don't have any purchase on the normal media landscape.
The thing is, I do think a bullet does come for them eventually, but it's not what you'd expect.
And it's not cancellation.
Come on, let's not body shame him, fat cunt.No, I don't mind being mean because he's been really horrible to the minority groups in the past.I think you're right that he's kind of uncancellable.
And I do think there's been a tone shift in the UK where kind of 10, 15 years ago, I was talking about this earlier, but like, there was a kind of appetite for pranks, for real kind of overtly sick humour, for that kind of thing.
And I think in time, we've all got a bit like, we've just grown up.It's a bit gross to think about.
And there's two types, I think, of that.And to sub-define this culture even more, there's two types.There is one, which he is not, which is the kind of greebo bloke who's into American football and drinks Monster Energy.
And it's more kind of like, what was the Welsh, not Jackass, the Welsh blokes that were the, Dirty Sanchez.Dirty Sanchez, yeah.Like that kind of.
It makes me think of CEX, you know, the guys who go and trade PSC games.Those guys, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It makes me think of like Warhammer shops.
Mountain bikes stacked up outside of the McDonald's in Steven's Town Centre.
Those guys, yeah, yeah, yeah.The goths that are around the back of the bowling centre.
Lip piercing in a Kerrang t-shirt, that kind of thing, yeah, yeah, yeah.I know who you're talking about.
Baggy beanie, dodgy glasses, lip piercing.
girlfriend with purple hair who can't look you in the eye.
Don't tend to smell great.Asking you what the Dallas Cowboys score was at the weekend.
Yeah, those guys like sick humor.
They like sick humor.The other one is the kind of like, like I say, the kind of suburban Southeastern character.Yeah, the like kind of like Givenchy t-shirt.
that has absolutely zero sense of humour but has convinced himself because they've got a loud voice they're funny.
I think the G1C t-shirt to pronounce it correctly.
That would be a great detective story, seeing Essex, the Govinchy coat.
If Jim skin ever made a motion picture it could be called the Givenchy code Detective Jim skin was one day away from retirement try to find out somebody was actually related to mark right when they were young
Turns out Mark Wright did have a kid, and it's me, Jim Skin.
I'm gonna go and live on my boat and live forever.
I just want to get the aesthetic of the Southeastern, I like sick humour, prick, which I think is what Jack Jones TV is.Because they're from a bygone era, here's the aesthetic I think of.Let's say Jim and Chee, more cocaine and caviar jumping.
boy london boy london do you remember oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's mad super dry jacket super dry jacket that is it he's not got a piece of clothing that doesn't have a japanese symbol on it yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah or yeah just just just a big number and then the word osaka
Desert jeans, you know that sort of ripped baggy desert jeans and desert boots?
Or like even more biker-y kind of, yeah that's amazing.
And then gelled hair with the fringe stuck to your forehead like that and then a bit of spike here.
That's Jack Jones TV aesthetic.My mum used to like, my mum was so sweet, she used to like Buy me clothes when I was younger, but like it was like she'd never seen me go out It was like she'd never seen me.
She would buy consistently by the age when you were you like sort of 16 17 Yeah, maybe like 15 16 And it was like she would buy me these t-shirts that had like a huge tiger on it and the word Nagasaki
And like, I'd be like, have you ever, have we ever like, and it was, it was so sweet because every time I, at first I just took, I'd be like, oh great.And then I would just not wear them.
But eventually I'd be like, oh, I'm just not going to wear this.And then just like the look on her face every time I was like, just, you got to just take it, I think.I should have started going out in it.
It's a hard one.The other kind of relic of that era was the top man.And again, Jack Jones is a very top man.Top man used to do, I think it was three t-shirts for maybe £12.
You really don't want to think about the economics of it.It was something like that.Even with inflation, it was like someone's working in a sweatshop here.
It was insanely cheap, by the way enjoy the hats, but it was insanely cheap and the t-shirt it'd be like a base color of like gray yeah and then a neon green lining around the collar which would come down for three buttons they were all a different color they were called baseball colors yeah and then the same lining around the the arms this short short sleeve you don't want to see some of the gear i was wearing even without the nagasaki stuff my mom was probably thinking you cheeky cunt the way you fucking wear this
thing our parents would have seen like a Jack Jones TV and think they want to look like that.Baseball cap that says Icon on it that's the other one as well I'm sure Jack Jones has that.
That was a thing of towards kind of like slightly not sick humor but kind of like yeah let's prank people by being immature and being inappropriate and
That was the kind of trend, and I just want to set the scene a little bit more before we get into Jack Jones' videos.
I remember that, and it was very Facebook.
Do you remember the trend of, I'm going to use the word, I'm not going to break it down, fraping?
I do remember that, yeah.
That's what this reminds me of.
That's what this is, a really juvenile, ha, got ya, fraping.Yeah. I hate, I hate it.I'm thinking back about it.I'm genuinely cringing inside, just thinking about what that word means.The wordplay is fucking horrible.
But also what it was, and also thinking about like, I remember when fraping was a real big thing.I was like 16, 17.
I had all of my family on Facebook, and then my school friends, and then someone would just go on your thing and just write the most horrendous thing they can think of.I mean, we used to do quite a good one to my mate Kane. You know Cain?
I think you've talked about it before, but then it actually got a genuine reaction, didn't it?
I actually think this was a strangely good... Because most people, you know, most people just get on your laptop and go, I love blowjobs!And then you go, I don't love blowjobs, I was just Cain on my bloody laptop, leave me alone!
Whereas what we would do with Cain is if we got... Because he was massive on Facebook.
What do you mean?You know how some people are just on it constantly?People used to just scroll Facebook. Like, the least you can say about our generation, the algorithms got better.You see what, like, journalists and content creators do now.
Back then it was just the shit your schoolmates would write.
I just had chicken for dinner.Like, boring.
Cain loved it.Cain absolutely loved it.And what we would do, we'd get his laptop and we'd go in there and I'd write, like, we'd really appeal to the Steveage audience, the people that, and as we've mentioned on this podcast before.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, working class people on Facebook, they hate pedophiles and they love dogs.
Love dogs.That's it. And somehow the two issues around them sometimes get tangled up.
Very often get conflated, as Ahmed Yacoub has prompted for us.
So we used to go on Kane's Facebook, we'd hack in and we'd put a status, it'd be along the lines of like, I'm so sick of pedos getting shorter sentences, I reckon what the government should do is hang them in Stevenage Town Centre so that me and the lads can spit and piss on them.
And the best bit was, all of his like thousands of friends on Facebook who are all like Stevens people would all be like, that's a fucking great idea!That's the best thing anyone's ever suggested!Kane should be Prime Minister!
Let's make a Facebook group, Kane for PM!And then the problem was, because it was such a popular notion, he wouldn't be able to take it down!
Because if he'd have gone on there and been like, no guys, that was Jacob taking the mic, they'd be like, what, do you love Pino's then? Ironically, this was the UK like 15 years ago.It hasn't moved on.
You can imagine on the back of the Hugh Edwards scandal and stuff like that, people genuinely get interaction from saying stuff.
I'm pretty sure Tommy Robinson put a tweet that was basically that.Like you say, the circularity of it all.Now you have an age where you can look back on stuff.
It's so crazy because it's just the same debates and the same bullshit over and over and over again.
The UK has been stuck on a loop for fucking years.200 years.What do we do with paedophiles?And please can someone think of the dogs?That is the UK.
Danny Dyer and Alison Hammond ask, what should we do with paedophiles from Mango Media?That's our next podcast.
That's a reference to a Patreon.We did a great Patreon episode about comedy podcasts where we were saying how you can basically just put two C-list celebs together and just ask them a daft question.Let's get on to Jack Jones TV.
Shall we watch the first clip?
Yeah, this is the first one.This is Jack.God, Jack.This is Jack. This is Jack Jones.We won't watch all of it because it's a minute and 38 long.But this is him genuinely... I mean pranking is too strong a word.It's just fucking boring.
So he's in a supermarket.He's just coming up behind people.Just shouting at people unexpectedly.
This one he's on a tube so there's lots of tourists who are a bit... Now you get the gist here and like what is fucking me off so much is his shit-eating grin after he's done it.Look at that.Oh my god.He's in prep for this one.That fake laugh.
Now that is too intrusive, that is, like, in Pret it's kind of like no one's scared or intimidated.This one he's going up to like 14 year old girls.They're singing along to be fair.
So he's on his own when he's recording these.People treating him with the fucking disdain he deserves.
Is that enough?Horrendous.Has the light just gone off in here?
Maybe, I don't know.Oi! Do you know the mental thing about this?The way it should work is he looks so inconspicuous that it's like, oh my god, a normal person is just singing in public.He looks so mental.
The first one in that video is him in a supermarket.If someone in a supermarket walked up to me in what I think was like a sleeveless zip-up hoodie with a black baseball cap, black sunglasses on, huge gaming headphones with a luminous green cable,
I wouldn't let them stand near me.I wouldn't let them get close enough to sing and surprise me.I'd probably alert security and be like, I think a monster energy drinker is about to attack the supermarket.
A Warhammer player is about to attack the supermarket.
And you hit on something there.He's on his own.It's so lonely.
Have you seen that really famous Instagram account now?It's called influencers in the wild. And it's obviously like, we've talked about numerous times on here, it's like the other shot of someone recording themselves.
The reverse shot.That would be the most pathetic thing on the planet.
Is him sort of pottering around Tesco to find his target, practicing the camera angle, G'ing himself up.Come on, Chuck. Come on Jack, let's do it.
Do you think he has to do himself up?I just think he's so like blank and void in his head.I don't even think, I think he's just like a robot.He's just like a prank robot just going up to old women in the supermarket doing, I'm just an island boy.
It's so embarrassing man.It's so, and it's so, it's so like unimaginative.He's been like, so that's recent.How old is he? I think he's our age, if not older.That's recent, right?
Because that island boy thing, that was only like last summer or the summer before.
He's been doing this for about 15 years.15 years!This is, and this is, you know you were saying earlier, you were like, you know, he said some more horrible stuff and that doesn't seem to be the bullet that's killed him.
His numbers have definitely gone down, right?He's definitely nowhere near where he was when Vine was a thing 15 years ago.Right. It's not you're right.
It's not because he's been cancelled It's not because his his content is like tasteless, which is Boring, it's cuz you're doing God new bell everyone the different kind of bell actually it's gonna be the two areas the two areas of the
If you don't know we ring a bell when Jacob says something that's accidentally wise or we call it the wisdom bell and it used to be a little like hotel like when you got to a counter and go ding and there wasn't it's quite it's quite neat wasn't it quite easy and now it
He's bought me a little like- Well we did it at the live show.
Let's explain.We had it at the live show, which was one of the most fucking embarrassing moments of my life.Jack D and Josh Widdicombe were doing a show in the venue after us.They were upstairs and I was carrying a bell upstairs.
What's that, by the way?Shut up.No, and then after the live show famously, I went out and got pissed, lost some of our merch, and I also lost the Wisdom Bell.
So for the last few weeks, I've been trying to replace the Wisdom Bell, and I thought we'd up our game and go for this.
It neatly divides the eras of the podcast, I think, in kind of before the live show and after the live show.And now, when I'm shaking it, what's great is there's not a huge amount of dignity in sitting in this room and doing the podcast anyway.
Now having to go like this, any dignity I had, and it barely works.
Well, no, you've got to give it a good fucking
Let's turn the lights back on, we've done enough movement to turn the lights off.
You can't see on the camera with the lights on.
But what is quite funny right now, I brought that to the studio today, that was in my backpack, I was just getting on the tube like a little fucking... Jacob sent me a video of him coming down the tube escalator at Oxford Circus like a fucking cow.
With a fucking heifer in a Swiss fucking meadow.
Jack Jones.It's fucking boring.Is there a fucking cow on the tube?We're content creators and we know that you have to mix things up.You can't just be a little ding all the time.You have to be a ring-a-ding-a-ding-a-ding.
You have to be the hunchback of fucking Notre Dame.He's been doing the same shit for 15 years.It's fucking bleak.It's so boring and it's so shit.
Like, I hate to say this, but like, the KSI's of this world, the HS Tiki Tokis of this world, they evolve.
They go for, you know, HS Tiki Toki.He doesn't just call girls skets on the internet.He catches pedos.
He dispenses vigilante justice.
He fights people.He fights people.He might have learning difficulties.He crashed his car.He's mixing it up, you know.Jack Jones is still the fucking jump out and go, oh, he likes a swing from a chair.Ha ha ha, got them.
And also in that video, he doesn't actually get them very much.The ones where he like really makes them jump, which is like, again, borderline intimidating, he's right in their ear.
In the kind of like carriages on the tube or whatever, people are just looking at him, he's the butt of the joke.People are literally laughing at him for being an idiot.
But this is the thing, the climate has changed.Right.It used to be, like 15 years ago, when Vine had just become a thing, when Facebook was just a thing, when content creation had just become a thing,
Like, you wouldn't expect someone to film themselves doing that to you.Nowadays, like, it is a thing.Everyone on that tube would have gone, oh, it's just another cunt with a camera.Yeah, that's so fucking true.
It's just, oh, it's just another fucking prick.That's so fucking true.
Oh, it's just some other cunt doing that to me.At some point it was like a novelty or it was like, oh, you never guess what we saw today.
You're filming?What, are you going to put it on the internet?
Now, everyone's like, oh fucking yeah.
And it's also like, that's your thing.Like, bear in mind, nowadays, you do well to get to work on a daily basis without someone getting you in a contact.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Especially in central London.
Exactly, people follow you down the street and go, excuse me, do you mind telling us what you do for a living?Or do you know what I mean?
Or like, you walk down fucking Camden High Street and some 17 year old with a Vox Pop mic will go, excuse me brother, you a bo-cat? Who told you that?And you have to go, what's a bo-cat?Grandad doesn't know what a bo-cat is.
Do you go down on the women?And you're like, I do with my girlfriend.Do you know what I mean?That's life now.That's life.You cannot walk down Camden High Street without someone asking you if you're willing to give your wife oral sex.
So now, like when Jake Jones teamed up- I do with my girlfriend.
You know, it's all that stuff.
I shared one on the screen on Instagram the other day of some girl who stopped some other girl on the street and this girl is almost having a fit.
She's got this sort of cool, trendy girl, sort of shit 90s Matrix sunglasses and she's wearing some shit deliberately cheap tracksuit and she's like, where do you think is the trendiest part of London?
The other girl's like, I think I'd say Dulwich, like South East.She's like, yeah, slay, Dulwich.The point I'm trying to make is, there is such a huge variety of like, of like, bullshit, get you on the street, make content out of you.
Now, like the people on the tube, 15 years ago, they were like, what?And you're filming? You were singing!What's going on?Huh?This is gonna be a vine!
I go down on my girlfriend!
Yeah, now they're like, this is the sixth time someone's got me on the way to work.
I've told someone that I'm willing to go down on my missus, I've told that girl that my favourite part of London in terms of fashion is probably East London, and now you're singing at me.
I've showed someone around my flat and told them about my wages.
Think of something fucking interesting, mate.I've already told someone my salary, I've told someone how much my flat is every month.Come on, man.This is the sixth bit of content I've been got with on the way to work today.
Those fucking weirdos over there just tried to give me a friendship blazer that says Rotter on it.
But I think what we should get onto is that there is, and I think you make the point, the people who aren't bored are the ones who are like, oh fucking hell, you got a bit close to me there, mate.
And I don't know about you, my brain, when I watch that happen to someone else, I go, oh god, I'd like someone to attack you.
I do think he is a very hateable figure and because he's intruding on people's personal space and because also the prankster, particularly the southeastern wanker prankster, always comes with a like undertone of like, it's just a joke, mate.
It's just a joke.What are you getting annoyed for?I can't take it too seriously.
Just a joke.And so obviously, this is the other bad thing about it.It does lead to recriminations and to reprisals.And that's the video that we're going to watch next.
So this is Jack Jones, and he gets, well I guess there's another word for it, he gets attacked by a rival.
And the thing is, like, you know, we joke around and we're fucking adults in our early 30s, right, and we talk about a guy who's been doing this since he was a teenager.Obviously we'd never wish violence upon him.
so this is jack jones and this guy i can't remember who it was but i think it like went to court and all sorts but yeah this is him doing a pizza prank on jack jones pizza cam pizza cam jack so jack is immediately not happy oh calls him a mug
He's calling the police!He's got a little pork pie hat on as well, like Peter Doherty hat.He's filming Jack Jones in the back of the police car.And now Jack's ending up in the back of the police car.
Jack Jones in the police car, he's phoned the police on me because he's got a bit of pizza.Bit of pizza in your face and you phoned the police.
trick now for anyone who's not watching let me just quickly say what happened there jack jones was walking down the street clearly on a night out is was it drip check he had an unbuttoned denim shirt vest underneath trilby hat on it's the most top man thing you've ever seen in your life some guy pranks jack pizza to the face joker what are you doing you mug
goes to start on the guy.I think might have punched the guy.I think that's what the guy left out.I think Jack did actually hit the guy, which is why when Jack phones the police on the guy, the police arrest Jack Jones.
And it's just a beautiful moment at the end where the guy is filming Jack Jones again.I threw a pizza in your face.I pranked you like you prank everyone else.You've been arrested.
That is almost so perfect I wondered if it was fake the first time I saw it.
It's the perfect comeuppance.And a phrase that I think my family used to use or in general I heard quite a lot growing up was like, don't dish it out if you can't take it. That's a, I mean, there's a lot of phrases for it.
Chat shit, get banged is another one.
Now that's what I was about to say.We're talking 2010's humour here.Jamie Vardy, chat shit, get banged.
Chat shit, get banged.And that is the epitome of chatting shit and getting banged.But what I think we wanted to link it to, right, was that it kind of started affecting his content because he couldn't, he clearly became more aware.
The nation wanted to punch Jack Jones. The nation wanted to punch him.Jack Jones had been chatting shit and as a country we wanted him to get banged.And you'll notice that he picks his targets very carefully.
In the first few airwaves there was an older lady in the supermarket.It was some young tourist.Every person he got really close to was someone who would not punch him.But what it means is there aren't enough of those people around.
And what happened after that is the most pathetic thing that's ever happened, is he started faking the prank.
This is almost unbearable to watch.
Yeah, this is almost unwatchable.It's the most cringeworthy thing.We'll narrate it because, you know.
So this is kind of similar camera angle to the video from before where he's kind of shouting in people's face, but he's in a supermarket.
Hello mate, you alright?Yeah, I'm just out shopping at the moment.Nah, I'm not okay.My gut's been playing me up the whole morning.Give me a second.
So there's a woman just over his shoulder.
Worst acting ever Jack Why are you breaking up with me?I've done everything you ever asked of me.I made love to you.I paid the bills Why are you doing this?
This is so this is a borrow this old lady.
There's an old lady on his shoulder Hello mate, you all right?Yeah, I'm just at the gym at the moment.
Hello, mate.You're right.
No, I'm not All right, I'll use the machine next to me, but this roid head's taken ages.Oh Yo, who the fuck are you calling a roadie, bro?Hello, babes.Oh, my God.What do you mean you haven't cleaned the dishes?I don't care if you're in a wheelchair.
If you haven't cleaned them by the time I get back, we're done.Bye.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Oh, my God.Hello, mate, you all right?Oi, you'll never guess who I'm stood next to.Harry Potter.Yeah, yeah, you know, from the Philosopher's Stone.
Who the fuck you calling Harry Potter for, bro?
Who the fuck you calling Harry Potter, bro?
yeah oh my god as a nation i i'm like that is the british public willfully and consensually interacting in his content acting alongside him as a nation i'm i'm almost as embarrassed by that as some of the atrocities we've committed globally
Jack Jones is worse than colonialism.
I don't feel great about Brexit.I don't feel great about the actions of the British Empire.The fact that our nation and its people are willing to interact in content like that, I'd say it's worse.
That's the worst thing Britain's done.That's the worst thing that Britain has ever done.
That is not the institutional view of this podcast.
I felt a sense of patriotism and national pride when the man attacked him with a piece of pizza.I feel fucking shame when I watch that.And as Tommy Robinson has many times said in the media, we have to sort this country out.
Yeah, he was talking about different stuff.He wasn't talking about Jack Jones.We're specifically talking about Jack Jones.We agree with the wording, but not the sentiment.Jake has a job.
What I will say is that I don't think I actively asked for an asteroid to hit the UK after the HS Tiki Toki stuff.
I think you said you welcome the asteroid.
Would it be the worst thing? And when you watch that, you do think to yourself, are we the most embarrassing, broken, pathetic country on earth?And to link it back, I did have that sense in Barcelona.
Like in Barcelona, you're wandering around, it's beautiful, the architecture's beautiful, beer's like a euro, coffee's a euro, people go for a nice bit of lunch, they work, and then they go down the beach, the beach is beautiful, clean, no one there's pissed, and they must be looking at us going, they wanted to get away from us?
Are they having a fucking laugh?
Especially if they were to view this, if they were to look at this fucking twat of a bloke, this professional dickhead who walks around scripting and also like with no kind of irony.None.Like, let me make a comparison with Jack Jones.
And you're right, by the way, if the people of Barcelona were to watch him, this fucking twat, the worst dress sense imaginable, still so 2012 with his baseball cap on.
He's had his dinner at the Harvester before they even leave the house.
Yeah, his slouchy fucking t-shirt going, uh, no, uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, actually, I'm in the gym and some mandem is taking up the gym equipment.And then the guy who's clearly faking it goes, what did you just say to me, bro?
And then they look to the camera, they're, ah! Yeah, I think if other European nations look at that they can go, whatever fucking trade deal you like, fuck off.
But like that one, so this is important right, in the first one it's shot the same, the angle is the same, so it's meant to evoke the ones that were real, but it's so obviously scripted and fake that it can't possibly be that.
But it's not making a virtue of it.
But how could you draw any joy or humor from it?Like if you're a cock, you might see the one where he frightens someone in Leicester Square and be like, it's funny when people jump or whatever.He got them.With this, who is that for?What's the gag?
Is it for someone that's been kicked in the head by a horse?Yeah.That's the only person that could find that even pleasantly And partially enjoyable.
And to sort of link it back to when we talked about HSTKTK a couple of weeks ago, there's nothing self-deprecating or self-absorbing about it.And it's like, how the fuck have you done this for 15 years and not acknowledge the fact that you're a cop?
And how have you managed 15 years of this without going... His status in the video is the man.
Every single time.And with like... I'm not even criticising him as a human being here, to criticise him as a comedian, which I think he thinks he is, how have you not spotted that there is a gap for you to take the piss out of yourself?
By the way, I should say, he's had an arc, right, where he was big, small, bit of cancellation, he said horrendous stuff, he put on a lot of weight, he sort of got a lot of people taking the piss out of his way, he went through the whole mental health thing, you've all made me depressed now!
Addicted to boxing, long term relationship, apparently a Muslim, right?And shout out to an artist who follows us called Times New Road Man, you know that guy?
I mentioned we were doing him and he was like, yeah, he claims to be a Muslim, although he does also have like a small, horrible dog, like a pug, which I think is haram. So it's like, none of it, but he still uses the word Inshallah sometimes.
Despite the fact that he's made Islamophobic comments in the past, the whole thing is a fucking mess.And yet at no point has he gone, wouldn't it be funny if I took the piss out of myself?
And let me give a bit of credit to someone we've covered in an episode previously, Jim Skim.
New single out now.Oi yoi!Get the drinks in, if they're not tens then we're not linking.
That's one of Jacob's bars, but the Jim Skin is out now as well.
Jim Skin, I've been watching a bit of Jim Skin.He's still doing the thing where people will take the mick out of his kind of jawline.
However, I think it's got to a bit now where people are taking the mick out of his jawline in the hope that he finds it funny and shares it.It's a very knowing, funny thing.
And what Jim Skin does, so Jim Skin's got this mental jawline and people will comment going, What, did you play for Mewchester United?Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a thing called Mewing.I've heard about Mewing.
Where you can sort of be a tongue to the roof of your mouth and it makes your jaw kind of push out like that.
100% we're going to get like 55 comments being like, these two fucking chinless wonders need to start Mewing immediately.
They need to start Mewing immediately.
see here because he's got a fake filter on his videos where he's got a big jaw people will go did this guy play for New Chester United and what he does every single time it's the same format every single time he'll go I was just in the middle of and it'll be like I don't know going to the gym I was just in the middle of working out at the gym and then
jake farrell at jake farrell on tiktok commented does this guy play from ucs united and then he'll go what do you mean by that and go and what i love about jim skin is he can take the piss out of himself because what he started doing now not just acknowledging the big jaw and chin what he does now is he takes the piss out of his own video format nice so where he would always say i was just in the middle of x activity
he's now does stuff like he did one the other day when he was at home and he's got one of those salt lamps yeah those kind of like orange like lamps like a big brick of salt yeah he was sat there okay i was just in the middle of holding my salt lamp and i saw the jake farrell commenting what do you mean by that
Like, Jack Jones is so thick, he hasn't even thought of ridiculing his own form.
Well, I was going to say, when you're like, someone sat around going, you're not even in the same meta self-deprecation level as Jim Skin.Not fucking Lenny Bruce, as Jim Skin.
You're not as clever as Jim Skin.You don't have the same levels of self-awareness as Jim Skin.
And it's because it's because he's humorless it's because the guy isn't funny he wasn't funny at school He wasn't funny growing up.This wasn't a class clown.
This guy has never made anyone laugh in the pub I can guarantee you that and you know like the thing with these people They will take on any kind of, like, ideology, any kind of love, any kind of, like, yeah, well, I'm a Muslim now, actually.
Yeah, well, I've got mental health now, actually.Yeah, well, I'm boxing now, actually.So, yeah, you can't take the piss out of me.
And the thing, and we mentioned it with HS Tiki Toki, the thing with this guy, there is a strange obsession with grandparents.
And elderly people in general.
Do you know my mate Luke Porter?
One of my pals from Stevenage. He's a nan kid.He's too close with his nan.And we've said it about him, we're like, we all love our nans, mate.There's something weird with you and your nan.
And every part of Luke's life, I think, everything weird that he does, everything strange that he says, it's like, it's because you're a nan kid.If you and your nan are too, like, we all love our nans.There's something weird about you and your nan.
And Jack Jones has got that. him and his nan, he's got like, and older women in general, and it's almost like a defense mechanism of a lot of these kind of guys who do kind of prank humor, cancelable humor, what am I going to say next?
He's like, yeah, well I'm kind to my fucking nan, aren't I?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Should we watch?Yeah, let's watch this.This is, and this is even more pathetic than the attempts at humor.This is Jack Jones giving out flowers to old ladies.
Excuse me, darling.I just want to say you look absolutely beautiful and I've got these for you.Yes, for you.I promise you, I'm just trying to make people's days a little bit better.
Pathetic music underneath.
You're welcome and I hope you have a great day.Thank you very much.You're welcome.Take.Excuse me darling, I just want to say you look absolutely beautiful and I got these for you.
I got these for you, I'm just trying to make people's days a little bit better.
No you're not.I've been shouting in people's ear in Leicester Square all morning, you cunt.
Well, now's your first. Yeah.God bless.Have a great day.Fucking bring on the asteroid.You're welcome.Bye bye.Excuse me, darling.
I just want to say that- I can't do another one.I'm sorry.I can't watch another one.
I cannot watch another one.Don't worry about that.They can't see it.The line that he delivers, I'm just trying to make people's days a little bit better.
nothing could be further from the truth.
But this is what it is, it's because it's a kind of slap back against people saying you're being a cunt.It's because he's had so many comments over the fucking decade and a half of people going stop being a prick to people in public.
It's always the thing, there's a sort of vague mental health angle of like, yeah people are miserable nowadays, I'm just trying to be funny and trying to cheer people up.You know he said almost exactly the same thing, it's Bevo.
I'm just trying to make everyone's days a little bit better.I'm a genuine guy.I'm just a genuine guy.I'm just doing it for views.It's David Brent in the office.
What I'd like people to write on my headstone when I die is he just tried to make everyone laugh.And it's Jack Jones' TV.That is his kind of like... If anyone was to say, mate, you're a prick.You just go around trying to wind people up.
He'd go, no, I'm not.I'm just trying to make everyone's days a little bit better.
Look, I filmed myself giving four pounds worth of flowers to someone in the street, and the best thing that could have happened in that video, you know the first one, it was like an old lady and her, you'd assume husband?
Imagine the husband punched him.
Yeah.You're that fucking Jack Jones wanker, aren't you? I think, do you reckon they have Nan guys up north as well or that's just a southern thing?
I don't know, the kind of like over sentimentality towards older people which is so fucking patronising, like I don't, it feels southeastern to me, it feels like, and it's such a thing of being like, like there's that phrase of like it always help you Nan cross the street.
A lot of nans are cunts.A lot of nans.You heard it here first everyone.I don't mind saying, I mean, will mine hear it?I don't care.My nan's horrible.My nan's not a very nice person.
I mean, I'll go into some Hawley family history, I don't mind telling you this.
I didn't fucking start this podcast and buy all these fucking lights so you could come on here and be like, my nan's not... My nan's not a very nice person.
I only found this out when I was about 30, when I turned 30 a couple of years ago.So my mum and my nan never really got on, right?And... God, where am I going with this?
Is she like, I don't know what I was going to say?
Which final wrap up?Which final wrap up?I'm so sorry.No, but I can't say that and not back it up.She's a really horrible person, my nan.
So my nan is from a really... As in like a genuinely horrible way, rather than being like... Oh yeah, well, because I'm going to explain it.
Sorry mate, you let me get into this and it's going to blow your mind, it's going to blow your fucking mind when I come out of it.
Which is, listen, there's no way she'd fucking last this long into the episode anyway.
Okay, my mum and my nan always had a bit of a frictitious relationship.I never really understood it.My nan, Irish, from a really poor family, think travellers from Ireland.A lot of alcohol problems in the family.
A lot of, yeah, when I say mental health stuff, you know.
Proper mental health.Old school mental health.People are dead.When mental health was mental health.A lot of people have died.
That side of the family is really, it's really rough, really horrible. You know, my nan's getting older.Her husband died a couple of years ago.I said to my mum a couple of years ago, why do you never go and help with nan?
What's going on with you and nan?And that's when my dad was like, you have to just fucking tell him now.And my mum was like, OK.So my mum's parents separated when she was really young.Her dad had really bad alcohol problems.
My mum told me two years ago that when my mum was six years old, she was kicked out on the street by my nan. Because my nan said to her, you remind me too much of your father.My nan kicked my mum out on the street.
My mum, I didn't know this until I was 30, that my mum was raised through the care system.And it's because my nan just willfully went, fuck off, get out.Next time people are thinking about the winter fuel allowance.You want to heat her, do you?
You want to keep her warm?
Every episode?How did we get there?Will we clip that?
Hello darling, can I just say you look absolutely- DON'T GIVE THOSE FLOWERS TO HER, SHE KICKS SOMEONE OUT ON THE STREETS! That's all true.
Do you think we went hard enough on Jack Jones?Do you think the Rotters will be satisfied?
I think we went hard enough and I think what we did is we dissected what he does wrong, why he's such a prick and I think people will be satisfied.
I think we looked into every facet of him and I think most importantly we showed the moment he got attacked. And then I tell the most troubling story of my family history.
Look, if you're out there and you're down the pub and you've got some guy in a Givenchy... Am I doing that right?Givenchy.Givenchy.
If you've got someone with a Givenchy t-shirt on down the pub and they're going, don't worry mate, it's only a joke, don't worry mate, just having a bit of a laugh.
You fucking send them this podcast and say, you fucking weird nan guy, get away from me.And probably tell him to miss the anecdote about Jacob's granddad at the end.Grandmother.Grandmother.Sorry.
Grandad wasn't great.So what he did.
Because I'm telling you, honey.
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