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Hey, this is Patrick Mahomes, quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs, and you're listening to the fantasy footballers podcast.
Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Welcome in the fantasy footballers podcast.Mike, the fantasy hit man, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, Wednesday edition. Always a lot going on to talk about and today is no exception.More wide receivers on the move in the NFL.
So we'll talk about that on today's show.I know we're all sitting here waiting for waivers to go through in our league of record and all of you out there listening.
It was waiver day and it's a good time to remind you to drop it like it's hot because we've got you know, players that are going to hit the waiver wire today because you got to make choices, got to make decisions.There are players to be dropped.
It looks like the most fab was spent on Jalen McMillan in our league.
Guilty in most leagues.I think that'll be the case in super flex leagues.Jameis was the prize.
Kate Otten also arriving on Mike's roster.
Yeah.Uh, Kate Otten's on the block everybody.
Jason overspent on Troy Franklin.Not a surprise.
Impossible.Impossible.I did not overspend on Franklin.I acquired.Wait, we gave you that button?No.
He spent four times the amount of the next highest bid. but not enough.You know, the trade, the trade offers today, or I'm sorry, the NFL trades today will have implications too.
As I see Juju Smith Schuster hitting the waiver wire in our league of record as well.So, and it's always good to get a lay of the land and see what's going on.I, I do want to share that, you know, I did not compete in today's festivities.
My team is too good to need players from the waiver wire.Oh, congratulations.And also a very little fab, but I was looking to acquire more fab.You should have no fab. Well, you should have zero.You know, that's what I was going to get into.
So yesterday I left work a little early.I had to, I had to, I had to fill in the gap.Uh, one of my kids was at an orthodontist and they, they, uh, they pulled the, we're starting your appointment an hour and a half after you arrived.
Oh, that is nasty.What's the point of appointments?Um, they were very apologetic.
But my daughter was getting braces on and my wife was stuck at the orthodontist and my son needed to be picked up.You know, there's a lot going on.Very busy time.You know, I'm a responsible father.Let me go over to Deucer's Alley over here.
Man in the hat hidden behind his own shame.And so I'm driving around.I mean, I am.No, not not you today.
That's pride, not shame. Um, so, so I'm driving around and I had put a little note out into our league of record that I, you know, I, I was just trying to pick up some fab.It was like, if anybody wants Michael Wilson, any fab offer will do.
And I get a sweet offer.I was shocked.I was like, this guy is hitting the waiver wire.I'm shocked.And I got an offer, Michael Wilson for $5 a fab.They smashed, except smash, except I wanted that five fat little did I realize
Keep in mind, Andy had $5 of fab at the time.
This was going to double his fab.That's why you needed fab.
This is why I needed fab.Little did I realize that when I smashed accept driving, being a responsible dad, picking up my son, I don't have time to focus on looking at trades and driving.Yeah, that's a hard.Okay.Technically I was parked.Okay.
I was in the line. All right, all right, all right.Okay, driveline is acceptable phone work, yeah.Yeah, but don't trade in driveline is what I'm learning because the offer that the Falcon, Falcon hadn't ever sent me an offer in sleeper ever.
I had to do the accept.You know how when someone first sends you a deal to trade with you, they're like, do you accept this message?So this is his debut.Yeah, it's a collect call.
He had sent me Michael Wilson and my $5 for nothing.I can't even believe Sleeper allows you to put that in the system, but they do.So I paid $5 of FAB to send Michael Wilson.
You were one of those teams that were paying for someone to take this player off my roster. And so a lot of leagues would say that's on you.Not this one.Who's the commissioner of the league?I am.Yeah.
Um, it's funny because I remember years ago we talked about on this show, it was our listener league.I made a trade for D Johnson and I got Duke Johnson instead of David Johnson.And I took that on the chin.I said, that's on me.
I should have looked at the trade better and I kept it.I didn't reverse.
Is that your actual position on this thing?Cause I assumed it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.I love giving you grief about it, but you saw it, you know, immediately the whole league is laughing at you and you're like, that was a mistake.It was very funny.It was a clear mistake.It was a great laugh.
But like people, if this happens in your league, because I know that there are some people out there listening.It's like, no, Andy should not be allowed to undo that.Yes, he should. It's like, let, let accidents be undone.
If someone drops a player, I saw someone tweet this out.They, they had a player hit waivers.They dropped them, but they don't have any league rules allowing you to undo it.Here's your league rule.I'm telling you, this is your league rule.
If you have a league, if it happens, if an accident happens and immediately, I'm not talking like the next day or eight hours later, but like when the accident happens, someone goes, Oh, whoops.I didn't mean to do this thing.
undo it this is like come on now i don't know al over there is saying that it's just my fault i didn't pay attention and and i guess that's true it is true but i i don't actually think it should have stood oh it was fun there's a great it was so i want to know though uh before we get the show started it's it's jam-packed but falcon
what what demented spirit conjured up this offer in the afternoon i just left like what did you was this strategic like this will be a real like i know i pay you to work here but what you you were doing something else no i was just on the bathroom and
I was like, this will be kind of funny.That's where he does his best.
I mean, look, you said any fab.Negative.Negative fab is any fab.
That's true.What entertained me the most was the thought that he was sitting there thinking, this will be funny.Like, I'll be able to do this and he'll probably click accept.And he was right.Yeah, Papa Josh said, regret is not reversible.
Accidents are.That's right.That's a good way to put it. All right, congratulations to, can you read the name of the Megalobowl leader for me?
It is, let me go back to the top.That is Nels8912.
That's the current leader in our Megalobowl out of 20,000 participants.I'm having a pretty good Megalobowl year.I don't know about you guys.I'm sitting at 11 and three.Ooh, very nice.Lamar Jackson, thank you.Thank you very much.
Marvin Harrison, no thank you to you. But congrats to Nels, who's leading the Megalobowl.Has the Falcon fallen all the way out of contention?I still have a lot of points.My record's just not as good.Okay.Yeah.What else do we got going on?
We got some Hungry For More.
Welcome to Hungry For More, presented by Uber Eats.
Some interesting names on today's segment.I will start with a player that probably categorizes as starving for more over the last several years.Javante Williams.
Yeah.What I saw for the first time in the Sean Payton era this past week was the plan coming to fruition.
Sean Payton has been a historically great coach when it comes to running the football and letting that establish the offense and putting up points.And I recognize that this was a bit of you know, that New Orleans did not play well.
Their defense is not playing well, but 17 opportunities for Javante.He looked explosive for the first time in two years.And if the plan can be executed by Sean Payton, it seems like it's going to be Javante.
I mean, Jaleel McLaughlin has shown his limitations this year.He's not on the field a lot.Estime has fumbled multiple times.Javante looks good.And this week you could have a real back-to-back, big-time performance.
In fact, I think Mike, who had a slow start in League of Record due to injuries, I think he is percolating with optimism and hope.I'm feeling a lot better.Because he's made some moves.
I mean, the fab spins today tell me this is a man hungry for more wins, and Gervonta may be a key part of that.
Yeah so the Dynasty podcast on the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty show came out today and every week on that episode we do a deep dive on three different, a deep film dive on three different players from a Dynasty perspective.Mine was Javonte Williams.
I went back and I watched every snap from this last week, and then I wanted to see more.So I watched every snap from the week before, the week before that, the week before that.
I looked at the last month of Javante Williams to kind of see, is he improving?Is his explosiveness coming home?
He's got a little bit more broken tackle rate, but certainly nowhere near the 2021 pre-injury Javante, you know, broken tackle rate that he had.My takeaway was this.
Yeah, I'm curious about this.
He is an average NFL running back.I didn't see anything that was special.He didn't break a bunch of one-on-one tackles.But he will 100% get what is blocked for him.And the offensive line and the system is starting to come together.
Mike McGlinchey, their right tackle, who is their highest paid player, He came back from injury and dominated.It made their right guard so much better.Their right guard sucked the previous three games.
And then all of a sudden, you see the right side of the line, which they are running to, I believe the second most in the NFL for just cause, opening up holes.
And when you do that, Javante is, he's a big strong back, so he can get that head of steam and go pick up eight to 12 yards on a single carry.We saw that a couple times.So yeah, this week against Carolina, they gonna be opening up some holes.
So, um, I think it'll be a meal.That'd be a nice meal.The way that I view Javante is a solid RB two going forward.
He should get the opportunity 17 opportunities this last week, but he is not, he did not strike me as like special and healthy and like, Oh, he's back baby.It was like, he's going to be a good matchup play.
And hopefully the offense, it's a young, young offense.You know, you've got three rookies. at skill position players out there almost the majority of snaps.
And so one of which being your quarterback, they should get better as the season goes along, but bad matchups will be tough for him.
All right.So Javante is my, my entry to hungry for more.Mike, who do you have?
I got Cedric Tillman.We talked about him a decent amount yesterday on the waiver show Cleveland Browns, second year wide receiver.He was a third round pick just a couple of years ago.
And he, in that draft class, it was, he was like the only prototypical outside wide receiver.He's six, three to 15.So this, this is a bigger guy.The, the rookie year was. It was bad.It was just, it was bad.The raw production was bad.
The peripherals were bad.But the Cleveland Browns passing game has just, I mean, aside from the end of last year, has been very stagnant.
Then this week, after the trade of Amari Cooper, 12 targets, eight for 81, 82% of the snaps, he went right into a featured role for Cleveland. Three targets early in the first quarter.He was involved, you know, in the intermediate area of the field.
We'd love to see that.Two end zone targets.They just didn't come through.And the matchup now against Baltimore, where people just, they have to throw on Baltimore.This is because Baltimore is going to put up so many points on you.
And then the big news, had you not seen it, Jameis Winston is now the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns.
Did you hear the explanation?
uh i i saw it basically said it was a game it was a game strategic game script type of decision to make dtr that's me winking to put him in that position i take it for what you will that's big news winston and there's also
There's like full Cleveland reset news going on right now, which involves the trading of David Najoku.There are three teams.Oh, I hadn't heard that one yet.Don't do it.Three teams that have inquired.
No, no, no, no, no, no.We need Najoku.
Including the Chargers. Yeah.Okay.Very interesting.
And look, I didn't know where he- Jason's stream of consciousness to the progression of the news is very fun.Yeah.
I mean, if Will Disley's out there getting 11 targets, yeah, okay.I am not saying, and I don't think we are saying, that Jameis Winston is the savior of the universe for the Cleveland Browns.No.
But Watson had been horrifically bad, like historically bad these last few years.So to me, Jameis has to be an upgrade.And Jameis does crazy stuff.He throws pick sixes all the time.We've seen him.He'll get out there.He's like Andy Dalton.
He has the gunslinger mentality.
And that means some bad things will happen for the Cleveland Browns, but some really good things will happen for fantasy. for on the offensive side of the ball, which translates then into fantasy for us.
Let me give you the three teams rumored to be connected with David Ninjoku as of 15 hours ago.Okay.The Chargers.I mean, you can make more sounds in association with the teams.The Colts.
No, no, no, no, no, no.Barf.
And then the Broncos. No those are the three team.
I think that I think that would be great for the Broncos a brilliant move.This is a team that has or a system obviously Jimmy Graham in the past they know how to use the tight end.Greg Dulcich hasn't gotten it done.
Their schedule is very favorable too.
Yeah.So I mean that would be good but that would not be that would be a downgrade for Najoku.Right now Najoku is the most important target on his offense.
Yes.And so to bring it back to Tillman, opportunity should be there and passing yardage above 200 is the kind of framework that we're looking for and hoping for.Cleveland's recipe the rest of this year, though, is play some defense and get lucky.
Yeah.Cleveland is the only team that has not scored 20 points in a game this season.
I'm guessing that goes away this week.Denver Broncos, according to our strength of schedule tool, where it is scheduled, just did the seventh best for tight ends moving forward.Is there a more for the Bronx?That's the Broncos.
Is there a more contrasting mood change at the quarterback position than the transition from Deshaun Watson to Jamis Winston? Isn't that the greatest contrast you could ever have?Yeah.
You're going from someone who... Like whose party do you want to go to?
Right.Look, there's... What we have is hope.We have actual hope that the pass catchers and the offense for the Browns could score more than 20 points.
All right, Jason, you've got a former Cleveland Brown as you're hungry for more.
Yeah, and a great player who is getting all the work.The utilization is blowing my mind. Troy Frank, no, it's Kareem Hunt.Kareem Hunt, the utilization is blowing your mind.
You're talking about two weeks, 28 opportunities, 24 opportunities, 52 opportunities.That's the most in the NFL.
Back-to-back games, 38% of Kansas City's total rush attempts at targets have gone to Kareem Hunt. Now if you're like 38% is that good?Is that bad?Over the last two weeks, which are the two weeks that Kareem Hunt has had a job in the NFL.
that second behind only Brees Hall.So this is an offense that will get the job done.At least they're going to be up in most games.They're undefeated right now.Kareem hunts looked good, man.He's looked good running the ball.I know he's 29 years old.
He's not the explosive rookie.He was when he came to the chiefs, but he is kind of a bell cow player here.I mean, they still have P Ryan involved in some of the passing work and the, you know, they'll bring people in, but he is
a really important fantasy asset.You remember Carson Steele?Oh, I sure do.That was this year.I traded for him.And then Cream Hunt got signed.
Yeah, Cream Hunt got signed and he said, hey, can you go get me a coffee, Steele?And Steele said, yes sir, Mr. Hunt.And don't come back.Right.Yeah, so I'm hungry for more Cream Hunt.I've picked them up at a couple places and it has been delightful.
It's funny, because your dynasty team, due to injuries and underperformance, had been really teetering on a disappointing start to the year.And it feels like over the last two weeks, Kareem Hunt has been the linchpin of keeping you as a top tier.
Yeah.Thank you, Kareem.I need a couple more weeks out of you.
Let me get these guys back.It's what makes Dynasty League so wild. So much conversation ends up around the top three or four or five round type of picks.But then the like linchpins of championship teams oftentimes are.
Yeah.Jarrett Patterson.Or like I had Raheem Mostert three years ago when he was considered dead. really most there's been like a fundamental part of my team for two years.
Like when you have players that come out of the woodwork, like if cream hunt the rest of the season is this cream home, which it seems possible.
Now Pacheco, we did get some optimistic tweeting, but whether he's back for the playoffs, you know, that's more of the conversation.
Some of the old guys still matter in fantasy football believe it or not and and even in dynasty.Mike was a little skeptical.We're talking about this the other day.Mike was a little skeptical when I drafted.This was like I don't know.
It was like five or six years ago.Derek Henry.
Because he was an old.He was like he's he's going to be you know coming older.
You used a really it was like your second round pick in a startup for a running back who's already like near the age cliff and there's some guys.Some guys are true outliers.
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Let's check inducer's alley real quick.Oh, okay, you're still here.Oh.The Falcon's still here.I'm proud of him.That was a good gag.Maybe he's adjusting his coffee schedule.Hold it.Hold it.
News and notes from around the league.Presented by USAA Insurance.
Jason wasn't done with the no he wasn't done with the joke.Falcon.Yeah I actually did adjust my coffee schedule.Oh fantastic.
Look at you putting work first.
Incredible.He adjusted it to not drinking it.
Wake up a bit earlier brother.
All right, the big news this morning, although there is more than one story, the Chiefs, who had been rumored around Cooper Cup or adding a wide receiver after the Juju Smith Schuster injury news, after the Marquise Brown injury news, after the Rashad Rashi Rice injury news.
They have acquired the Andre Hopkins veteran wide receiver from the Titans who escapes the clutches of Will Levis and arrives to a quarterback with more interceptions.The Titans get a fifth round draft pick. Is that real?Oh yeah.
No, he has more than we'll have us.Yeah.
Well, Levis has missed some games.
Yeah.Yeah.Love is, love is, is a, he's an equal opportunity turnover guy.He'll, he'll do the fumbles too.Right.
So more turnovers, just fewer.
So the Andre Hopkins arrives with the chiefs.I put a tweet out this morning immediately upon the news asking the question, rest of season, the Andre Hopkins is the wide receiver blank.I had a number.
i am curious what your number would be i don't know if you want me to share it first uh i'll write mine down mike you you got it in your head about it i will he is just an initial reaction this is not like please this is not like a guarantee right we don't know he he was the only some injury um
I'll tell you the number, then you guys tell me what you're thinking.My number was 16.Okay.Jason, your number?20.Mike?25.Okay, so there's your range.Initial reaction range. We already saw this last week.
Our leagues were filled with trades that included Devante Adams and Amari Cooper.Because people with news, it's exciting.Like if I had DeAndre Hopkins, I would be trying to trade him on the news of being with Patrick Mahomes.
While we were sitting here, literally while you were asking that question, I get a sleeper alert that DeAndre Hopkins in our Dynasty League has been added to the trade block.Like, of course, I mean, that's what you should do.
If you've got Hopkins, if people want to trade high and hot for him, thinking he's going to be Rushie Rice,
then then trade him at that value because again we talk about this a lot if you're trading on hype if you're trading on value then let's say he hits well presumably you received back something that was worthy of that but if he doesn't hit you received something back that was worthy of more so um i would i would always he just hit the trading block in in league of records
Oh, of course.Yeah, that makes sense.
So I guess I'm the most bullish of that situation.I just see the need as desperate.I mean, last week, Noah Gray outperformed Travis Kelsey in that offense.We can all kind of commentate on Patrick Mahomes' inability to put up fantasy points.
I don't know if anybody could with this current receiving group, and Xavier Worthy was not going to be somebody they can lean on.Worthy and McCall Hardman
They work great when you're putting the game plan together and creating cool goal line plays, like they're gadgetry.You know what I mean?They're not the main tool in the tool belt.
Hopkins is a sure handed, route running, reliable possession receiver at this stage of his career.I think you're going to have six for 60 in the can.If it gets in the end zone, you're happy.And I think you will every other week.
I think you're probably not far off there.This version of Hopkins is, he's slower, he doesn't separate as much, he's not explosive, you're not gonna get an 80-yard touchdown.
But if you compare this version of DeAndre Hopkins to current version, or at least two weeks ago version of Juju Smith-Schuster, Hopkins is way better.He looks better in his routes and his fluidity, his hands are awesome.
So Juju has proven in this offense that once you're acclimated, Juju knew this offense, and so that's something that is worth paying attention to.They brought Juju back because he was already part of this system, this office, for an entire year.
Same with Kareem Hunt.This is new for Hopkins.So he's going to take a little bit more time to get plugged into the system.However, he is better than Juju.So I do think in a couple weeks, you're going to have a wide receiver, too, going forward.
The Saints surprised everybody by not trading Alvin Kamara, but extending him.A two-year 24.5 extension.It puts him under contract through 2026.If you remember, because this was the first thing I thought of when I saw the news.
Well, first thing I thought was, oh.But the second thing I thought was, this was a player who chose not to hold out in the preseason and camp, and yet it was rumored that he would. Because he wanted an adjustment to his contract.
I don't know if this is the team kind of completing the sentence there where like he in good faith showed up.And so the team in good faith continued to navigate the cap and put them on the team.I am a little bit surprised that this is the move.
So, the Saints, what a wild franchise.
If you want to know how little you and me, all of us, understand about the salary cap, just look at the New Orleans Saints, who have no money and always give their guys a ton of money, but it's years down the road.
They kick the can down the road so much, it's unfathomable.They've got 0% APR.They're loading these credit cards. I don't know.I think they're still paying for Drew Brees for like 12 more years.
So this is a cap move for them that they believe is smart.And for about eight years, we've said it's gonna come calling and someday it will.
But as the cap keeps increasing the next year and the next year and the next year, they're always okay enough to put together a solid roster.And so maybe they'll be fine forever.They have been for long enough, but it's just wild, man.
I can't believe that a team that is so cap strapped It's like, hey, you want some more money?It's very, very weird.Hey, old running back, you want some more money?
I think that the Giants might have been well advised to follow this principle with Saquon Barkley in the offseason, perhaps kicking some cans down the road and paying him an extra $2 million to keep him on the team.
But Kamara, not heading out the door. Saquon and neighbors with that defense.Yeah.They could actually be a competitive team.They were like a Saquon away.If they could just pick one up.Uh, Jamis Winston, we talked about it.He's going to start.
We also got word that the Browns are going to let Ken Dorsey start calling all offensive plays moving forward.They were 13th and pass rate last year.Uh, Buffalo was with Ken Dorsey calling plays.
That is part of his calling card that only helps the equation with Jamis Winston. Listen to this, boys.Tua Tungavailoa expected to practice in full today.
He's playing against the Cardinals.That is the expectation.I think all of us, if you look at the betting lines, right now, unless there's a setback, Tua will start this week, which is glorious news for everyone your waddle your hill H.N.most are.
And I hope to.And I hope for him.Yes I really do.It's it's one of those things where you live your whole life with the joy of playing the game you love and you're 26.Well how old is he.I don't know.
Well if you're going to learn if you.Yeah no one knows.His mom is unsure.
Let's see.Yeah.Twenty six point six.
Yeah.Uh, you know, to his health should come first for sure.I know Mike McDaniel has talked about like that coming for, and that's why they're going to start him against Arizona Cardinals.
Cause they're like, where should, what team should, could we hand select to make sure he does not.It's like a preseason game.
The Cardinals sacked Justin Herbert a handful of times last week.
Their defense was wildly okay last week.
It was the black jerseys.
They were feeling... Yeah, it made no sense.You couldn't run on them last week.Their pass rush was coming despite no personnel to do it.So it's mostly a joke.Maybe they're figuring something out with a defensive head coach, but I doubt it.
I think it's probably Monday night football at home. big rare opportunity.Human beings get over that.
And there, uh, Dennis Gardek Torres, uh, his ACL, the linebacker that was playing well for the Cardinals.Uh, just another injury there.Although Darius Robinson should be coming back on the defensive line soon.
Mike Evans expected to be out until after the team's week 11 by they did not put them on IR.
because of that by week I think I think they're looking at this like a four-week injury but because their by week is in there he might only miss three games.
Do you feel confident that he'll be back after the bye and do you feel confident that I mean when you take Godwin off the table for the remainder of the season are we missing enough like is Mike Evans
a player you'd go acquire today, if you're a contending team, knowing that, look, your playoffs are not till 15 to 17.I mean, that is a long ways from now.It's a massive amount of risk.
And Baker's a tremendous, he's having a tremendous season where Evans will be the primary target when they're competing in this division.
You're not going to acquire Mike Evans for nothing.So it's going to cost your team something.And then you don't get anything for a month in the hopes that when he comes back, he doesn't re-aggravate.I'm not taking that risk now.
If you're telling me three weeks from now, when he's on buy, and you're a contending team, if you want to try to take that risk then, yeah, sure.
Well, I think the price is lower now.Oh, well, of course.
And he has to go on to IR.Yeah, I mean, if you've got an IR spot and it costs you nothing, well, fine. But if you've got to give up something and you're not going to get the player for a month that's a real tough pill to swallow.
And yes during the week fantasy football wise you'll be able to put him on your eye are.But I imagine he's going to be one of those players where it's Wednesday rolls around and it's like oh he's questionable.
So you're going to have to like deal with that like this.He won't just be marked out for four straight weeks.
All right, Dan Quinn said Jaden Daniels is getting close to being back on the practice field.So we could get our Sunday night football.The news on Debo Samuel released from the hospital dealing with pneumonia.
We'll keep you updated on his status for this weekend.Andy Dalton was involved in a car accident.It was at the team facility.Nobody was, from what I read, nobody in the accident was taken to the hospital.
Aaron Rodgers dealing with a hamstring injury in addition to previous ankle and knee injuries.Is this a man setting up his excuse Rolodex.I mean what is maybe I believe they're real.
I mean he's just old.We've seen his legs getting twisted and in and battered in these games so I'm sure they're they're real.I think the news here is he's not healthy.And so it's you know if you're trying to rely on him always got you know
Devontae Adams, Garrett Wilson, and Brees Hall.Maybe I want to start him.You got to be worried about the injury risk that he's carrying right now.
I was looking quite extensively yesterday at our strength of schedule tool, which at this point, you know, it's kind of interesting to look at it broken down by playoff weeks, remaining schedule.
You know, Aaron Rodgers, Devontae Adams, can they get on the same page?Can this be a meaningful end of the season?Maybe.
I think so.I think they will get on the same page and it will be meaningful.
I'd say yes.So fantasy meaningful?
Yeah, that's what I mean.I don't care about football.I mean, like wins and losses.I don't care if the Jets win.For what?Who cares?I want Jameis Winston out there throwing pick sixes so he's got to get right back on the field and throw touchdowns.
The Rams have opened up the 21 day window for wide receiver Pookanukuwa.
Take it easy.I just, I need him so bad.
I think you might've attached too much of your future to Pookanukuwa.
I'm going to go ahead and say, I know I did because, um, I, I, you know, I'm, we're in nine leagues, probably like six that we, you know, really care about.And in those six, I got them in four.And so I've had them in none.
And it sucked.Similarly, I, I am, also overexposed to Cooper Cup, who should be back this week on Thursday night, but many teams have inquired about trading for Cooper Cup.You can take the Chiefs off the board there.They had inquired.
They didn't want to take on the money that the Rams wanted them to take on, but Cooper Cup could get sent out of town.We've got rumors about Darnold and Matthew Stafford being traded for one another.
That's the scary one for me with Puka coming back.If the Darnold- That is scary.Stafford swap was made, that would be tough. But those are just rumors right now.
And to be more specific on the Cooper Cup, Kansas City, it looked like the Rams were willing to pay the contract if the Chiefs were willing to give up a second.
But they were able to give up only a fifth to get Hopkins, who didn't have a big contract.
That was today's News and Notes presented by USAA Insurance.Learn more at usaa.com slash insurance.We have a special segment today. Second half sleepers.
What was the expression you used yesterday, Jason, when I told you who my second half sleeper might be on the show?
Oh, I said, I just want you to know you don't have to do that.
You don't have to pick him.Is that a similar feeling that you have, Mike, when you've seen who I put in here?
The news today was really helpful.We live in America, the land of freedom.You are free to do what you want.Are you moving forward with this?
Unobtainium underpants.Hold on to your butts.
You gave me the highest grade.
I can't have stronger underpants for you.I feel like I would like Mike and I to leave the room.
Can we blur out the faces of the innocent?You don't want to be even peripherally associated with this idea. I don't think it's necessary, but you might be right.Can I just tell you the process?
17 targets over the last two weeks for this player and he happens to be the teammate of DeAndre Hopkins who has been shipped out of town.
Okay, listen, put them underpants on and talk brother.
I'm not going to say the name. What I'm going to do is I'm going to tell you all of the facts.Okay.17 targets over the last two weeks.Kind of.The number one schedule for wide receivers for the rest of the season.That part is true.
From weeks 11 through 18.So your stretch run, Minnesota, Houston, Washington, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Houston.
Every one of those teams gives up more points to the wide receiver position than the average, some of them by a lot.Jacksonville two times in that stretch.
So the number one schedule, not just for wide receivers, but for whomever his quarterback is, the targets will be there.Will he catch them?
Will they be in the... Will they be catchable is the question.
This is a second half sleepers.To me, this is a monumental downgrade from what this player was associated with to start the year.Look, I have regrets. But my second half sleeper is Calvin Ridley.
Oh, you said you were going to say the name until the I wanted to lay out the case.
Yeah, you don't.I would have just said wide receiver one for the Titans.Sure.Maybe that'll be easier for people to make that decision.There are plenty of times 30 percent, 24 percent target share over the last two weeks. There are going to be games.
There are plenty of times in fantasy football where the names betray you in both directions where because of a name like what you said about Hopkins Hopkins so far this year has had one reasonable game.
Everything else has been like one point zero points four points.
I mean the whole season had negative yards last week.
Yeah.And so I went based on the news this morning And I was like, Oh, okay.Waivers haven't gone through.Let me go see.
And I checked the sleeper has, if you don't know about this, cause I didn't know about until this year, you can click on a player in sleeper and there's a little banner that says, check his availability in other leagues.
And you can click that and you can look at all the leagues you're in and see if he's on any of the waivers.He was on none of the waiver.
He should have been on all of the waivers for Calvin Ridley, uh, through the first seven weeks last year. These were players that were outside the top 36.
Garrett Wilson, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Deebo Samuel, Rasheed Rice, DK Metcalf, Jaden Reed, T. Higgins, Amon Ra, St.Brown back in 2021.Most of those names are from this year.I was reading some from 2022.
Like big names and big performances, they do come later on.All of those names that I read were like top 15 guys the back half of the year.I'm not saying that's going to happen.
I'm just saying that everything laid out on the table is positive for the opportunity.And now DeAndre Hopkins is not even there to compete.You have to play four quarters of football.
You're playing teams where the quarterback and the wide receiver literally have the best schedule.I don't know what else to tell you.
That's what we do here is we tell you all the numbers that tell you why something should work and if it doesn't work beyond that.Blame Andy.Blame me not Jason Mike.I definitely blame the foul.But you will get the credit if it comes.I doubt that.
Looking at you know preparing for this episode. Oh, I saw it.I saw, I saw the quarterback schedule.I saw the wide receiver schedule.
You saw the opportunity.You could have done this.
And I went, no, thank you.It's not today, Satan. It's, it makes so much sense.It just, it comes down to, can they actually take advantage of the schedule that is placed before them?And that's where the risk comes in.
This is, I mean, in terms of getting Calvin Ridley on your team, That's probably a low-risk propagation.What's it going to take to get Calvin Ridley at this point?A bench player who you're like, hey, you want your insurance running back?
You just give me Calvin Ridley.You can get him so cheap.
I don't think you even have to go play him right now.Just put him there and see if something materializes over the next handful of weeks.He's played, what, four games, three games with Will Levis, one with Mason Rudolph?
I think we're getting another one.
I think we're getting another Mason game this week, where a difficult part for Calvary is- This is probably dumb to have brought up again. I'm trying to help you, man.
Um, it might, and it could be even slower because like if, if it's Mason Rudolph, uh, this week against Detroit, I'm not interested.And then you have the two, the two actual tough games remaining the Patriots and then the chargers.
So it could be a slower start.This is a, this is really a week 11 through championship week type of a play.
And by the way, 11, 12 and 14 are major bi-weeks.
I will say that you need a biweek fill in the second half sleeper if Calvin Ridley were on our waivers and this is just true and it's not true for every team your team's chugging along you're great just don't don't worry about this you know just be happy and keep your team intact but like for for teams that are struggling with injuries
If Calvin Ridley were on waivers, I would have gone hard after him in hopes that he can develop that rapport, especially with Hopkins gone.
There is a place for him to be important for certain fantasy managers, and I think about half of every league out there, Calvin Ridley will be important for them.I mean, this is really just setting expectations right.
You've got a guy who's going to get a lot of targets as the one with an easy schedule.It's not like Will Levis is not an NFL quarterback by contract. Yes.
Okay.Technically speaking, he does have an NFL contract.
All right.Can we, let's move forward.Mike, why don't you hop in?
All right.Uh, the high pressure situation here.
Uh, but I'm going to go pressure makes diamonds brother.
It does.And hopefully we get another one this year.I'm going with wide receiver, uh, the wide receiver from the Pittsburgh Steelers, George Pickens at the only one. Well, I don't really care about the other guys there.
He's not a sleeper in the sense of people don't know who he is.The market value is up for George Pickens based off of last week.I think there's a chance that we go even higher here over the second half.
The Pittsburgh Steelers have the fifth easiest remaining wide receiver schedule.Now, this one does have a couple caveats of week eight here against the Giants.
The Giants are actually negative four points above expectation, so I guess below expectation for wide receivers, and then the bye week.That part is unfortunate here for George Pickens and championship week is the Chiefs.
But between then, you have this really strong stretch, like I said, the fifth easiest remaining wide receiver schedule, combined with the hardest schedule remaining for fantasy running backs.
And if you ask about Jalen Warren, that's part of why I like Warren of, because he actually catches passes unlike Najee, where he's just going to be running into stacked boxes and things.
But combined easy schedule for wide receiver, hard schedule for running back, plus the change into Russell Wilson for George Pickens, I think that we have not just a good play, you have some really, really elite potential here moving forward.
He's seen 51% of the team's error yards. That's a number that only AJ Brown and Malik neighbors are seeing.And those air yards, you saw it last week.Those things went through the roof compared to what we've been getting for Justin Fields.
When he was the quarterback targeted on 29% of his routes, like that's a top 10 type of a number.Fourth among all wide receivers and expected fantasy points per route run.
And again, the change to Russell Wilson, while I was questioning it for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mike Tomlin looks like he was correct again.And that was a hard matchup.
Like that was not an easy game there for Russ to be thrown into in his first game with the Steelers.So after the bye week, Washington, which we brought up of our, that's kind of up in the air still.
I don't know if they're a good defense or not, but Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Philly, Baltimore, like this is a really, really strong run here.And I expect Pickens to, to kick it into turbo mode by week 11.
All right, we all see the potential with George Pickens.To see it consistently would be outrageously great.
That would be awesome.The only hardship there is that that means Russell Wilson's just back.He's gonna play well the rest of the season.
We've seen him one game.If he plays the way that he played for the Denver Broncos last year, which is competent for fantasy football, what was it, Cortland Sutton?
Double-digit touchdowns, Huster.
It was, for the Denver Broncos as a whole last year, just everything felt terrible.But the play of Russell Wilson was competent.
I can't give a higher compliment than that, but it was enough that if you have a star wide receiver, you're gonna get fantasy production.
They were winning games down the stretch second half of last year, but because of his contract guarantees, they chose to bench him so that they didn't have to pay out the rest of that contract in a different fashion.
Um, sometimes the second half of the year, sometimes lightning strikes twice.Sometimes it's easy.And I, I believe this is, I think this is easy.I think this is going to happen just like it happened last year.
And I think you've convinced me of that.
it is Dak Prescott.Dak Prescott has pretty much, he's super disappointed so far this year.He hasn't, you know, he's had three top 12 performances okay, but for the most part it's been suboptimal.
If you compare, so both years, last year and this year, week seven buys. Last year, the six games beforehand versus the six games beforehand this year, they're almost the same across the board.
Completion percentage in the 60s, 222 passing yards per game last year, 267 this year.Quarterback rating, 88, 85.Fantasy points per game last year, 14 a week, 15 a week this year before the bye.
They had a top 12 difficult passing schedule so far in the six games that Dak played. Now coming out of the bye, this is a team that has the sixth easiest strength of schedule for the quarterback going forward.
Last year they had an elite defense, this year they don't.They're going to need to score even more.
And if you look at how Dak Prescott plays after the bye in the specific matchups, so over the rest of the season, they only have two quote unquote difficult
matchups at all the whole rest of the way as far as fancy points given up when you when you compare for schedule and those two matchups are both the Philadelphia Eagles this year which are technically top five but he's he's used to playing the Eagles last year against the Eagles he had a game of 374 and three and a game of 271 and two those are both fine
uh matchups and you know the you might look and say well San Francisco out of the bye that's maybe a more difficult matchup that's a good defense generally speaking but so far this year they've been giving up more fantasy points over expectation than the average quarterback and Dak is coming off a bye Jamie Isenberg pointed this out on Twitter how awesome Dak has been after his bye week and seven career games after a bye Prescott is averaging averaging 28.1 fantasy points and his worst
outing over that entire career is 22.3 points.So I think this is a team that can't run the ball, doesn't have a great defense anymore.
DAC after the bye last year, if you don't remember, if you didn't have them and didn't experience it, also known as you didn't win the championship. He was on pace after the bye for 5,000 yards and 46 passing touchdowns.Him and Seedy were awesome.
Part of that was because, and we saw this last year, he was on this episode last year, because the strength of schedule coming out was like, hey, it's all green.It's green lights, it's wheels up for Dak Prescott.
Well, guess what's happening this year?Same exact thing. So I think I saw him on waivers in our league of record, which is why Andy's grimacing.You've got CD, you won the championship last year with that CD stack.
And I, I was like, I am not, I am not letting Andy get him.So I paid one more fab than you had and you didn't go after him.
So you would just give me Dak plus 10 fab for nothing.I will.
Those trades are hit.They're hot right now.
They're everywhere.They're big time.I think you're right.And, you know, I guess it's somewhat comforting that I literally couldn't have gotten him.
Until today. So we'll talk later.All right, bonus second half sleeper picks.I'm going to throw TJ Hawkinson's name out there.He should be returning soon.They've got the third easiest schedule for tight ends and they could use him.They could use him.
Why do I know this?Because Johnny Munt has production in the offense and he's not TJ Hawkinson.And we know that TJ Hawkinson passes all the tests all the time.So he's ready to go.He's the second half sleeper for me.
Yeah that's that's pretty interesting.My my guy to pay attention to is Braylon Allen.The number one rest of season schedule is the Jets.
So this is really for running for running.
This is really a a Brees Hall statement for sure.But obviously Braylon Owens out on waivers.And if something happens to Brees Hall the matchups are So juicy, especially we already know what we've done.Yeah, absolutely.
Make sure he's rostered Mike and I'm throwing out a defense here.Not that I think that the Cincinnati Bengals defense is an elite by any means, but it's rest of season.
They have two bottom half remaining matchups for a DST play and then in the playoffs.Like if you're looking at who actually has good schedules in the playoffs. We got the Jaguars.You're going to play the Jags.Got the Colts.
You're going to play them, the Cardinals.Like these are not teams that I'm going to believe in.
You're saying, just to be clear, those three teams have good schedules, but you don't believe in their defense.
Right.But the best one on paper right now is the Bengals.You get the Titans. You get Cleveland, and then maybe you want to pivot away against Denver.
I don't know.You're at home against Denver in Championship Week.It's not the end of the world.
But that's what I'm saying.That's the worst.That's the worst one for that three-game run here for the Bengals.Normally, we talk about you want to mix and match, of course.Play the best.
If you can play against the Cleveland Browns all three weeks with your defense, sure, go ahead and do that.
Well, and that could change now.Yeah, that definitely could change.New offensive play caller, new quarterback.
But pay attention to that DST.
And before we get into the Thursday night football matchup, I just want to remind people that the rumors are out there, they're just rumors, that there could be a potential trade of Sam Darnold for Matthew Stafford.Okay, let's go.
Why are you reminding people about that?
Do you not remember what the Thursday night football game is?Oh, fair.
That's pretty interesting.All right, we got to take a break, then we'll hit the Thursday night preview.
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Thursday Night Breakdown.
I want to see the trade pulled off Wednesday.Today, halftime.
Oh my gosh, at halftime they come out in different jerseys.Minnesota at 5-1, taking on the 2-4 Los Angeles Rams, the DraftKings Sportsbook line Minnesota.Minus 2.5 on the road, over under his 48 points, that's the third highest of the week.
Mike just did a fist pump because he's happier with this than last week.
Yeah, than last week's just
Well, look, the Rams should get back Cooper Cup in this game.Some of the rumors around the Darnold Stafford swap, there's a significant age gap between Darnold and Stafford.
And the rumor is that, and Jack Settleman was the first one with sources to talk about this and other sources have confirmed discussions.Kevin O'Connell and Sean McVay have that connection.They won a Super Bowl together.
Nathie Stafford's 36 years old.I believe Sam Darnold's 27. The Rams are interested in a long-term deal with Sam Darnold.And the Rams are looking at resetting kind of the timeline.Stafford is like...
To put it into fantasy football dynasty terms, he's the guy you pick up because you need to win a title this year.It's not necessarily the future of your franchise, but I don't think any of us would.
If Darnold's legit, that trade makes so much sense for both teams.
Well, Darnold is 5-1 playing in the Sean McVay system right now. Yeah.
I mean, and this is, this is why, like, it feels like a dishonoring thing to Darnold to talk about this trade.But the truth is, is when push comes to shove and you go to the playoffs, you need Stafford.You're not going to do it with Darnold.
Yeah.Darnold's not winning a Superbowl.There's not, not this year.Genuinely, the way that the Vikings defense has been playing their offensive weapons, you put Stafford there.I mean, yeah.O'Connell's won a Superbowl with Matthew Stafford already.
It's very, very interesting.We don't know what, if anything will happen, but for this game this week specifically, you know, Minnesota finally took an L. It was a late loss.It was a great game.It was very fun.
It was a last second field goal, right?
It was.He did not have a great game.He was okay. He took sacks, four of them.He threw an interception.He didn't look, you know, he looked middle of the pack in that ball game that they lost, but the defense is so great.And he, you know, he was fine.
In this game specifically, start-set decisions, you're always putting Kyron in there.He's been unbelievable.He has 24 touchdowns in his last 18 games.He's as close to betting on a touchdown guarantee as we got since the Christian McCaffrey run.
Cooper Cubs should be back out there.What does that do with the rest of the wide receiver options?It seems like it pushes them into a can't start category.At least that's my impression.But what do you guys think?
I think it's still open because the, the like teams have to pass on the Minnesota Vikings.That's just, that's where they have ended up at least so far through the season.The problem is like, I mean, I guess you can maybe go with,
2-2, 2-2 Atwell, but I want it to be Jordan Whittington, but you had last week's debacle of he's questionable, he's limited in practice, and then he goes out and doesn't run a single route for the whole game.
I think he had like nine blocking snaps, and it was injury-related.
And there's four names there.Yeah.Tyler Johnson was the guy who stepped up seven targets, four for 57.Because Whittington didn't play.And DeMarcus and Whittington and Tutu.
Those are against this defense.Yeah.I'm going to start Cooper Kopp.He's going to be active.He's going to be in my lineup.This is a, I mean, right now on the course of the season, the Vikings defense has been great, but so has their offense.
So the other teams have to keep up.You can't run on them and you might be down.You would expect them to be down in a game that they are, you know, literally Minnesota is favored. So, Cooper Cup's gonna need to throw the ball.You can throw on them.
They're 30th right now in schedule, adjusted fantasy points given up to the wide receiver position, averaging Minnesota Vikings, averaging 32 fantasy points per game given up.
We've seen in the game where Cooper, you know, when Cooper Cup was there and Pucca was injured, it's like Cooper Cup's it felt like at least 50% of not 75% of the wide receiver targets.He's just, he is their guy.
They waited, you know, McVeigh talked about why he didn't play last week.It wasn't because he wasn't healthy enough to play.It was because he wasn't returned to performance, not just returned to the field.Exactly.
So Cooper cup is like, I mean, I, there's no world where I would not start him on any roster.
So Kyron and Cooper, I feel like that to me is the end of that story.
It is to me.There's enough other tight ends who have peaked their heads up like the Hunter Henrys and now Kate Autins to where Colby Parkinson is not necessary.
Yeah, he's more Colby Jack squat.
Aaron Jones been limited, uh, but not worried about it right now.You know, quick turnaround from Sunday.He was dealing with an injury.It looked amazing.So he's in your lineup confidently for sure.And then you've got Justin Jefferson.
What about Jordan Addison?He has three receptions in every game he's played.That is, um, not great.
Yeah.We could use a little more volume.
That's pretty, uh, that's scary because it's kind of like, if you score your, you're all right.
Yeah and last last week against the Lions he did he hit the one big play a 50 yard catch so I mean three for 66 for the type of player that he is that's not the worst but I mean we got to get these yeah you don't know who it is target Jalen Naylor last week had five targets four for 76 so more Justin Jefferson is the one obviously I don't think Hawkinson is going to play this week there just hasn't been enough buzz I think we'll know
There's a chance.There's a chance.My expectation right now is that he starts next week.And if that's the case, I think it's really, this game's pretty simple in the sense that it's Justin Jefferson, Cooper Cupp, Kyron Williams, and Aaron Jones.
All right, I've got the storyline for the game.Awesome.The thing to follow.The thing to be excited about.Minnesota is playing for Matthew Stafford.Right.Because if you don't win this game, then the Rams are alive.Rams are three and four.
They're alive.They've got Cooper cup with Puka on the way and they're in play.You win this game.The Rams are two and five.You're six and one.You're incentivized to make the move.
Now the irony of course is that if you win this game, Sam Donald probably played good football. but that's more persuasive in your trade off.Yeah.
You want, I mean, if you're, this is the Matthew Stafford bowl.This is the Matthew Stafford bowl.They, Sam Darnold needs to go out and ball out.And what's ironic is that if Sam Darnold wants what's best for his career.
He is having a resurgence, a glorious time.I'm sure he is loving being a Minnesota Vikings starting quarterback.But their future is already there in J.J.McCarthy.Yes, that's why this trade makes sense.So if you want a long-term starting deal,
Darnold, go play your heart out and show the other team, look, you can sign me to a long-term deal.It's so weird.
So wait, he's playing for like $100 million.
Yes, legitimately.So the Vikings need to go out there and look awesome and win this game.And if they do, you might see this trade happen.What a fascinating, fun thing to watch.
Now, if Darnold goes out there, collapses, and they lose, all bets are off.
Yeah.I mean, if that happens, you're three and four.I mean, the Cardinals are three and four in the division.The 49ers are three and four in the division.The Rams will be right in the mix again.Pretty wild.All right.
That should be a fun Thursday night football game.And tomorrow we're going to get into all of our starts of the week, all of the matchups.We've got the wheel of shame this week, and I am telling you now. You.Don't.Want.To miss.
Friday's Wheel of Shame.That's great news.Mike has no idea what's going on.Jason is ashamed.
I have no idea what's going on.I will not be here Friday.Al, you and I know.
It's a wheel that spins, man.We'll see what happens.
Right.Yeah.Um, also, uh, breaking news while we were talking, uh, Brooks just put Sam Darnold on the trade block in our dynasty.
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