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You did it.We all did it.Everyone sprinted through the finish line. And we delivered the most epic ass-kicking to Kamala the Democrats have seen since the 1980s.
All over the country, left coast to right coast, east coast to west coast, north to south.We are the champions.Donald Trump did it. He survived an assassination attempt, two of them.He survived bankruptcy attempts.
He survived attempts to imprison him for the rest of his life, and last night culminated the greatest American political comeback, I believe, in history.Just an incredible night, one of the best nights of my life.
The only thing that could have made it better was some potassio creme brulee, but... Buck, I am still walking on air.
Now, to be fair to everybody, if I get even more names wrong or pronounce things wrong or my grammar's even off, I have only slept for two and a half hours.I was out on Broadway last night in Nashville at Kid Rocks for the close, for the conclusion.
Let me play that for everybody.Fox News, we were all chanting, just go ahead and call Alaska because it was at 267. The decision was made, Fox News made the first call that Trump had won the presidency.This is what it sounded like.
I hope you all weren't in bed yet, but my goodness, it sounded sweet.Here it was.
It's over officially!Yes!What a night!God, I'm so excited!I've been waiting for this for so long!
Buck, I didn't know that was me.Is that you?
Banished forever!Trump 2024!Yes!
Sorry, I thought that was Fox News making the call, not me drunkenly celebrating at the bar.So I've already had a whiff three minutes into this. Clay, let me talk for a second.
I've already whiffed.Have a little water.Take a moment.Clay was up super.I was in pajamas with Carrie.Pistachio creme brulee was had.We had a lovely night here with Ginger.
I slept two and a half hours, Buck.
I slept for two and a half hours coming back from the bar. I was I was watching the streams of the various networks on my phone with Carrie late at night.But let's we'll get into the atmospherics.
Also, I just want to say we want to take a lot of calls from all of you.This is Victory Day.This is Celebration Day.This is you did it.
You who listen to this show, you patriots, you fellow Americans who saw what was going wrong with the country and actually wanted to fix it.And this is a huge step in the right direction.
I would say, Clay, today we have so much time to talk policy, so much time to get into the next steps.And I know the left is nuts.We understand it's this isn't the end of the movie where everyone lives happily ever after or something.
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What really feels like a counter revolution in the best sense, right?It felt a bit like a Marxist revolution had been underway for quite some time.I think you could stretch it back to the Obama administration and clay for me last night.
It just as happy as I was.I didn't scream quite as loud as you did, but as happy as I was. It feels like we have restored something of balance and sanity to the country.
My faith in the decision-making of a majority, not all, but a majority of the American people, but a solid majority, has been largely restored.
And to me, I know we've never gotten the reckoning that we wanted about COVID and about all that was done to the country, but In a sense, this was a part of that, too.
The Biden administration was judged and found wanting in all respects, including the divisiveness, the vaccine mandate.And so today is Victory Celebration Day.It is Spike the Football Day.All of you should feel so proud.
I will say we had been telling you that this was coming. We we got this one right.We had we had a few.There are a few doubters about what if they cheat?And why aren't you talking about the cheat?And why are you so overconfident?
Well, we were right this time.Everybody called it, called it, called it.And and we were right because of all of you, because of what you decided to do.And honestly, I just couldn't be prouder of the country.
I mean, I couldn't be prouder of of all of us.And even the psycho libs are going to benefit from the administration that's coming.It's just going to make America better.
Stock market opened up over a thousand points.I haven't checked it in the last hour or so to see how it's doing.
But even if you're a left winger, you are making a lot of money this morning if you have some dollars in the stock market, because Trump actually has some economic sense and Kamala didn't.
And I think it's a relief rally on Wall Street that Trump and a lot of very good finance people that Trump will empower will come in with him. A couple of things, look, the data is still coming in.Michigan has not officially been called yet.
Arizona and Nevada have not been called either.The numbers are such that Trump is going to win all three of those states.
So he is going to win all seven battleground states, Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, at least 53 Senate seats.The Senate has flipped. And we are looking very good to win the House, too.
Now, there's still a lot of House seats that have to come in, but usually the overall House looks similar to who won the popular vote.I will say this, Buck, I didn't see very many people predicting that Trump was going to win the popular vote.I did.
I'll take my bow here for that one.You got a lot right about this, too. He's going to win the popular vote.And even on MSNBC this morning, Buck, they were saying this is the biggest Republican win since 1984.
We'll see how it compares to 88, but it's bigger than what George Bush did in 2000 and in 2004.And certainly it's bigger than what Trump did in 2016.
this is so important and we will get into some of the data fascinating stuff i mean new jersey democrats won it by four points four points in a presidential election by for new jersey florida all my fellow floridians especially those of you who are refugees like me from crazy blue states
We should be so proud.And Ron DeSantis deserves, as governor, a tremendous amount of credit.But Trump's a Florida guy, too.His family are Florida people now.And it is remarkable what has happened.I mean, Florida is the fortress of freedom now.
And it's just so great to see.But, Clay, the fact that the win was so sweeping and clear, I mean, thank thank heavens.We're not in some situation where, oh, it's coming down to Pennsylvania.They don't they can't give us the final count.
It's going to take days or some other nonsense.Trump won.Everybody knows it.There's no way around it.They have to accept it.And. You know, I know the Democrats unconditional surrender is only going to last about a day, but that's what we needed here.
And I know it's not a mandate by the numbers, and I don't even like that term, but it's clarity.It's clarity.This is a non-contested election.This is an election that one side's message was overwhelmingly chosen by the American people.
And I'm so proud of some of those senators.I know they haven't called it for McCormick yet.He's looking really good in Pennsylvania.I think he's going to win.Hovde lost in Wisconsin by the skin of his teeth.
I mean, it could not have been any tighter.So he's a good man and we were hoping. I saw one point, you know, the difference that they're reporting was six votes with hundreds of thousands of votes.
Yeah, I mean, it was this is also a moment to remind everyone we say you when we when we tell you go vote and every vote counts, you could see for yourself last night in some of these races. what the difference was.
And by the way, if they hadn't run some bogus third-party spoiler candidate, actually two of them in Wisconsin, Hovde would have won.So the Democrats played really dirty there.They held onto that Senate seat.
On the happy note, I think Brown's going to end up winning.It's going to be really close in Nevada.
I still think if you look at maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, It's two points right now in Nevada and I think Trump's, I mean sorry in Arizona, I think Trump is going to win Arizona fairly comfortably.
Tim Sheehy wins in Montana, we've had him on a bunch, wins comfortably.Bernie Marino wins comfortably in Ohio and West Virginia so and McCormick is going to win.We're sitting at at least 53 Senate seats for Republicans, that's big.
Maybe we get up to 54 or 55.That would be even bigger.That is the only if you want to have a little bit of a downer.I think of the and I think Mike Rogers, if they don't win in the Midwest, would have both been incredible.
Rogers in Michigan is super tight.It's like, I mean, to your point, it's like five votes are separating them right now.I mean, it's it's unbelievable.
And I would also say this for takeaways from the situation.Unquestionably Donald Trump is a superhuman force of political nature and just everything and taking the bullet and standing up and saying fight and this was
This was his date with destiny and Trump met the moment and he should just be so commended.They thought they were going to crush him with criminal indictments.
They thought they were going to slow him down with absurd sexual assault allegations from decades past or whatever.They thought they were going to be able.
to uh destroy donald trump not even at the ballot box before he could even get there and and his you said it his comeback is the biggest political comeback the most amazing political comeback sir i think in the history of the modern uh western world i don't know where you'd have to go to get anything like it and the other part of this that i love if i can clay that it's just so good to see um
The legacy democrat media they're on very they're on very different kind of behavior today Yeah, because they know they all locked arms They all they went all in to defeat donald trump.They would say anything.He's a fascist.
He's a nazi He's a you know, he wants to kill his cheney got a firing squad He everything he's a racist.He's a misogynist.
He's threatening Liz Cheney's life He's gonna use the military against they did everything and the American people told them to just shut up Yeah, they just said enough.We're sick of your lies.
We're sick of your manipulations your dishonesty and and I think whether it's like CBS Evening News or MSNBC or CNN or any of these shows? Never going to be the same for them.I mean, they're going to go back to their nefarious ways.I get it.
But the power that they once wielded, Clay, it is not coming back.They cannot change an election.
Amen.I even saw Jeff Bezos congratulate Donald Trump on Twitter for a huge victory.I think we're going to see seismic changes in the way media works in the next couple of years.
Because in 16 Buck, you know this, they spent four years saying Russia, Russia, Russia, and trying to tear down Trump.I think this is a, because I think they felt like they were snookered.They didn't see Trump coming in 16.
This is about Trump's dominance and the fact that they helped put him there.And I think it's going to be a self-reflective moment for some of these media outlets because their influence is diminishing and their money's diminishing.
This day couldn't be any better for an after-election day, really.I mean, realistically.So, you know, take the wife, take the husband out for a great dinner or order in something delicious for you and the kids and the whole fam.
You know, celebrate the day.I really mean this.However you do it yourself.I know a lot of you are working long days today and you've got a million things going on.
take some time even if it is just to go for a walk and find a beautiful american flag hanging from somebody's house in your neighborhood and saluting it Maybe say a little prayer for Trump and for MAGA.Take this day and cherish it and savor it.
This is what you've been waiting for.This is what we've been building towards.This is what Clay and I have been obsessed with trying to help in whatever little or small, you know, or medium or whatever way we can.
And all of you and mobilizing you and talking to you and keeping the faith and saying, don't worry about the cheat.Beat the cheat.We're going to win.We're going to win.Take today and cherish it. and celebrate and feel good about.I mean, look at Clay.
Clay doesn't have a voice left after last night.
I wasn't.Yeah, you can hear me right now.I mean, look, I was not going to let this night go to waste.It meant too much to me.It meant too much that you and I have worked so hard with so many people on this show and all of you out there listening.
We don't get big, huge wins very often in life.Enjoy them.Yes, there's serious things that have to get taken care of now, all those things, but celebrate when you have incredible opportunities to celebrate.Let's do it.
I don't want to undermine 2016 at all.That was amazing.I think that we are in the best 24 hour cycle of American politics of, of our lifetime.And it may not, it may not get better than this.
So I, and I truly feel that way and we can discuss why 2016 was amazing, but it was, it was like the first movie and this is the sequel where the good guys all, where the cavalry comes, you know, where, where they finally get, get it done.
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We've got now a guy who has been on with us a lot, friend of the show, fantastic data guru, Ryan Gerduski with us right now.Ryan, I think you're like me, you only slept a couple of hours last night.Do you still feel like you're walking on air?
How amazing was last night?
Yeah, and you know what?It was surprising how quick I realized it was over.I was texting a top person in the Trump campaign, and the first rural county to come in, I think, was Tyler, Kentucky.
And Trump had gained six points in a county that he had very little room to grow in, because he was already winning it in the previous election by close to 80 points.
And then they were concerned about, I think it was Hamilton County, which is the north suburb of Indianapolis, because originally they said that they were losing it, but in terms of it's just the early vote, and I knew he was going to win the suburbs of Midwestern cities, that completely demolished Ann Seliger's entire prediction right there.
Florida came in and he won the Puerto Rican majority county or plurality County near Orlando and Just like liberal fallacy for liberal fallacy fell apart buck was correct when he said that he went by double digits I took by the high singles.
I couldn't believe he won it by that much And then when I got a phone call at 630 from a top, Georgia Consultant friend of mine who said they're gonna call it by 9 they didn't but he goes Trump absolutely won It's over and I was like well
What do you mean by absolutely won?Is it by 0.1, 0.2?He's like, no, it's well over two points.He won.There's no more.They're not coming out in Atlanta.It's over.
And then the exit polls came out and he said he won 25 percent of the black male vote in Georgia.But the last thing that fell for me was when Virginia came out and Loudoun County came in and there was an eight point swing.
in Trump's direction in an overwhelmingly wealthy, college-educated county.And I said, well, that's it, that's it.
Literally every single coalition that they were supposed to have, the black vote, the Hispanic vote, decent chances with rurals, according to Ann Seltzer, decent chances with Midwesterners, according to Ann Seltzer, and college-educated voter surge, it's all gone.
Every fallacy they have is gone, and it's gone in pinnacle counties, and she's going to lose.I texted my family, I think at 8th Third, and I said, you guys can all go to bed, you won, it's over.
You texted your buddies at what time?
Yeah.He texted me around nine o'clock.Clay.Hey, Ryan, great to have you as always.He's like J.D.Vance is going to be the next vice president because I was asking him questions about specifics on the voting.
So, yeah, he knew very early on that this was in the bag for the good guys.Ryan, Kamala didn't outperform Biden.Did this stand?I remember this stat from last night.It's actually funny because Jake Tapper was like, wow, like he could process it.
Kamala didn't outperform in the thousands of counties in the United States.She did not perform.
Some counties did move left.It wasn't many.There were a few counties like in Oklahoma for some reason that moved left. There were also a few counties in Georgia that moved left.
You have to remember when you hit a certain threshold in some counties, in some counties Trump was getting 84, 85 percent in the last election.If he gets 82 percent, it's considered a big swing.
So, yes, she made some ground up in some places, usually either in very red or very blue counties, but not Not particularly by much in no major suburban area.Did she make any ground up?
Um, it was all basically on the margins in some very very small counties Um, but not not many and not worth, you know, even discussing to tell everybody ryan, um, uh nationally the black vote the jewish vote and the hispanic vote What do we know and and are those numbers pretty close to final?
So here's what is going on.So what happened is there's been two sets of exit polls, right?There's the Edison exit poll numbers and then there is the Fox News analysis exit poll numbers.They are very different.
Fox are doing their own analysis after 2016 because the 2016 number exit polls were so bad. I don't really like to look at either one of those things.Not that they're bad companies.It's just it's very difficult because they're sampling people.
They're overwhelmingly sampling them in cities and suburbs.They don't get a lot of rural communities in these sample sizes to factor in.In a few months, Pew Research will be doing their autopsy on the election.
And that is really the gold standard for how people voted. We just won't know yet because they will take several months to do an entire autopsy on knowing every kind of demographic you can imagine.I would wait for that to happen.But we do have clues.
We have clues in the fact that in the Jewish vote in New York, AOC's district, which is not very Jewish, is mostly Hispanic, Asian and white.But AOC's district moved 24 points, 25 points towards Trump. Wow.
I think it's probably the biggest change in any direction.
I mean, that's Queens, right?I mean, isn't that basically a Queens district in New York?Queens and Bronx.Queens and the Bronx.That's among the most... You'd have to struggle to find a more diverse congressional district.
Yeah, yeah.25 point swing.It used to be an 80, like 85-15 district.It was now, I think, 65-35, which is still a blowout Democratic district, but those margins are vastly different.Grace Meng, she's a congressman from Queens.
Trump almost won her district.He almost won a second congressional district in New York City, which is completely unheard of. He won Suffolk County, which was his biggest county outside Maricopa back in 2016.He won it by double digits.
These are huge, huge numbers.Miami, he won by 11.So we have some context from there.Star County, Texas, which is the most Hispanic county in America.It is 97% Hispanic.It is right on the border.Trump flipped it.
He won it by, I think, 16 points the last time I checked.It is the first time in 132 years a Republican has won this county. And it wasn't, he didn't win it by a sliver, he won it by a blowout.So the realignment is continuing.
What I would like to sit there and look for is what I talked on your show, what I read about him a lot is I think that he overperformed estimates with the senior numbers.
I said this over and over again, I thought that seniors were not moving as left as people said they were. Pollsters estimated that he would lose seniors in Pennsylvania by four to five points, and that would carry him to winning Pennsylvania.
I said not to believe these exit polls, but this is all we have right now.So far in Pennsylvania, he probably won seniors by five to six points.So it was a 10 point difference with a demographic that's 30% of the vote.That's three points right there.
That's your margin between winning and losing in Pennsylvania. He also did fabulously well with the black vote, extremely well with the Hispanic vote, but a lot of that information was there.
Typically what happens with pollsters, with Republicans, is that they overestimate the support of the black vote, the support of the Hispanic vote, and then on election day, it's a little disappointing.In this case, they underestimated it.
Right now they're saying the black vote was about 16 percent Republican.I checked it a little while ago and the Hispanic vote was about 43, 44 percent Republican.That's a tremendous, tremendous difference right now.
And obviously in certain areas, it's much more.I wouldn't be surprised if like, you know, in Texas and in Florida, Trump probably won the Hispanic vote.
A couple of data points I want to hit you with, I'm curious which ones stand out the most to you.Trump wins Florida by 13, Texas by 14, and Seltzer who said oh Iowa is going to go to Kamala by 3 actually ends up Iowa 13 to Trump, and New Jersey
5147 when we started the show, I don't know if it's moved very much since those numbers are all pretty staggering in many different ways.What stands out to you about those raw numbers there on a state basis?
Okay, so Iowa, first of all, Seltzer said that the reason Iowa was competitive was because only one in four women over the age of 65, which by the way, all seniors in Iowa are white.
So only one in four white seniors, women seniors, were voting for Trump.Three in four were voting for Kamala.And only half of white senior citizen men, that was seniors and women, three in four were supporting Kamala.
She said half of senior citizen men who are white were supporting Kamala. I don't know about you, but I know a lot of white older seniors and random sample size that was not true.And they were not moving and it would require them to move 30 points.
It basically every Fox News news viewer became a Rachel Maddow viewer in a matter of a month.
And by the way, Ryan, also in a state that disliked Kamala Harris so much that she dropped out before they could vote in the 2020 Democrat primary.
It is utterly ridiculous.Ridiculous.Then you go to the New Jersey numbers, and what's interesting is not only is there extreme growth in the ethnic white communities, and by the way, he flipped Morris County, New Jersey, which is a very
very Jewish part of New Jersey.But then he makes inroads around Union and Newark.These are more Democratic areas.There was a congressional district.
New Jersey is gerrymandered beyond belief where Republicans really can't win another House seat if they tried.But there was one House seat.This was a Biden plus 26 seat in 2020. and the Republican was trailing, I think, by three or four points in it.
That's a tremendous explosion around Passaic County, all the way in the east, very Hispanic, a lot of Asians, very, very, very ethnically diverse, and absolutely repulsed by the Democratic brand.
I'm gonna give you a totally different thing besides Texas and Florida, which I referenced with Fran.You know what state had a huge explosion for Republicans?Vermont.
Vermont, blue, Bernie Sanders, Vermont, the Republican governor, who is a liberal one.
The Republican lieutenant governor flipped the seat from Democrat to Republican because they're voted, they're registered independently of each other, lieutenant governor and lieutenant governor.So they won lieutenant governorship.
They won five state Senate seats.They won 18 state House seats.It's the most the Vermont legislature has been Republican since 2002. It is, and this is Bernie Sanders' home base.I'll give you another thing.Tim Walz's home district flips Republican.
Tim Walz lost, I think he lost the state house in Minnesota.Democrats lost the state house in Michigan, in Pennsylvania.They lost a super majority in Nevada.They lost a super majority in the state legislature in New York.
in the New York State Senate, and they lost the State House in Pennsylvania, I don't know if I just mentioned that, but, and Michigan.They lost, it was a obliteration across the board.
It was, a lot of it was extremely bad branding of the Democratic Party to sit there and only say, fascism, J6, abortion, fascism, J6, abortion, because unless you live in a very few states, honestly, very few states relative, abortion is not a major issue because it is the law of the land.
So it completely takes you out of that.
And you're also they're dealing with huge rate of surges of migrants, huge amount of migrant welfare fraud, crime, housing costs, living standards, it makes the focus so much heavier on Kamala's weak points, that it's even worse.
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It's because you know the data, your analysis is spot on, and you're a humble guy, but I'll say it and Clay will say it, you nailed this election.
Your predictions as to where it was going and to what the polls, what polls were legit, what polls weren't.
um and you know my wife last night clay carrie she's like i kept telling her i she's i've been saying trump's gonna win for months and she knows that every time she asked me she asked me every day are you sure he's gonna win honey i'm like i'm sure he's gonna win honey you sure last night she goes i'm freaking out text ryan if he says he's gonna win too
And I'm like, okay, well, I say so.And Ryan says so.And it, and it came out to be true.You also got, I'll tell you, right.You got a new subscriber seriously to your sub stack for my wife last night, Carrie.So I appreciate that.
I'm going to write, I'm going to write the five pieces that you should know about this election, my sub stack today for tomorrow.And that will give a highlight.
And in a month or two, I know you like a lot of data clay, but give it a month or two, and we're going to have the full lay of the land.And we'll know a lot.
I love looking at the data.Ryan, you've killed it.Congrats.Get some sleep.I'm going to try to get some sleep tonight.That's the plan.
And go subscribe to Ryan Substack.Go to Substack.Look up National Populist Newsletter.Just type in Gerduski.He's probably the only one on Substack.Ryan Gerduski.And go subscribe.Ryan, great work, man.And please go.I know you're tired, too, like Clay.
Go celebrate.Go enjoy yourself.You've earned it.
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We begin the hour with our good friend, Julie Kelly, who has been on top of Jan Six, Jack Smith, everything else. for years now coming on to talk about all of this with us.But I just want to start with this, Julie.
How much did you enjoy Tuesday night?Was there a moment that for you was like the apex of happiness?I know we've joked before about what having a camera on Jack Smith would have been like.
I hope you thought about that idea at least once as all the returns were coming in.Do you still just kind of find yourself walking around with a smile on your face?
Totally Clayton.I did, um, repost our conversation from a few months ago when you said, wouldn't you love to have a camera in the room when Trump won a camera on Jack Smith?I retweeted that because it's so true.
Um, you know, the first people I thought about when I woke up Tuesday or of course the January fixers, knowing how much the Trump victory would mean to them.
Um, and then, you know, at, at the night progressed and the returns were coming in and looking so positive and J six or started to text me.
Uh, and I think it was just like later that night realizing, wow, the good, the good guys when I think it was like one, one o'clock or so, the good guys.One, the bad guys lost are going to face repercussions, which of course I will happily work on.
And then most importantly, the burden lifted off of J sixers, knowing that there's hope for them relief around the corner and exoneration at the very least claim bus, their own government, not referring to them as domestic terrorists anymore.
Julie, can you just, for everybody, you know, we've had you on a lot to talk about the J6 defendants.
Give a sense, because, you know, the media and a lot of the media that I'm talking about, those who listen to us and who are part of our extended radio family here, don't pay attention to, but
For a lot of Americans, what they've been told is there's all this violence and only the most serious people have faced any serious crimes, have faced any consequence from January 6.
Some of the people who are serving, who have or are serving prison sentences on the lower end in terms of offenses include what?Like, tell us some of those stories so people can really know this is what was done to them and this is how unjust it was.
Right.So let's start with the misdemeanors.There are four common misdemeanors that the government, that this DOJ has brought against J sixers for the very first time early on the chief judge barrel held the shameless Trump hater.
She overthought special counsel, Robert Mueller's probe, and then, um, ran the courthouse during the early two years of the J six prosecution.She openly sat in court.We never deal with class B misdemeanors in this courthouse.
But that's exactly what they've been doing.So they, uh, more than, I think, 700 defendants only had this myth, these four misdemeanors applied to them.And this is parading in the Capitol.
This is being on restricted grounds where secret service protectee is, um, disorderly conduct and on Capitol grounds, just being there, you even have to engage in disorderly conduct.So there are four common misdemeanors.Nonetheless.
These people were tormented by the DOJ, dragged to DC for court proceedings.
And in almost every case, clean buck faced some sort of prison time, whether it was 30 days or some that some were sentenced to the maximum number of months, which is 12 months for these misdemeanors.And they were thrown in federal prison for this.
So that to me is the lowest hanging fruit. That I think is something that the president can sign up on day one is immediate pardons for all of them, the misdemeanor cases, and you'll get into trickier areas.
Well, as you know, the Supreme court, and we've talked about this, the Supreme court overturned how this DOJ unlawfully applied 1512 C to obstruction of an official proceeding, which was the post on Ron tampering with evidence and documents statute.
Also, used for the very first time in J six cases, more than 300 J sixers charged with that felony.So that has been overturned.
Um, many defendants have gone to court seeking that to have that conviction, whether they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial to have those convictions vacated.
So all of those individuals should easily be pardoned in the existing, any existing indictments draft. Then you get into trickier areas, assault on police, right?
There are a handful of those cases that really need to be closely examined where there really was violence involved.But for the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting or interfering with police, that's the statute.
Assault, interfering, inhibiting law enforcement.This could be to someone who yelled at a police officer. who touched a riot shield, who threw a water bottle towards police lines.And we see things like that all the time in protests, correct?
We saw it certainly throughout 2020 in Washington, DC, but they were never charged with this federal statute.So we need to look more closely.I think that will be the stickier area, the grayer area as to where a pardon should apply.
Even the most egregious cases, their sentences should be commuted. You have a man, Julian Cater, who has been in prison since March of 2021, his arrest.
He was one of two of the fall guys for the death of Brian sickness, claiming that because he was hit with pepper spray, um, that that's how he died of a stroke.
The next day, Julian cater arrested on an airplane in New Jersey, March of 2021, accused of spraying Brian sickness with a small thing of pepper spray. He languished in the DC Gulag awaiting trial.
He was tormented for almost two years before he accepted a plea deal.Then he was sentenced to seven years in federal prison.That is, there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction, let alone in Washington, DC.
Those are the sort of cases that to me are ripe for commuting sentences and freeing these individuals. when there is no case comparison anywhere to the sentences that they've received.
Julie, I'm stunned.And we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's been covering the Jan 6th cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions, the lawfare against Trump in general with us now for years.I'm stunned even knowing how political this all was.
that the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah, Jack Smith, you're done.Did that surprise you?What is the latest on these cases and where should it go from here?Let me ask you like broad question.If
You know, if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should we do about these Jack Smith prosecutions?What would you suggest Republicans coming into power should do investigate the investigator?Where should this go?What's the latest?
Are you surprised by how quickly all of this house of cards collapse?
Yes, I am.So, number one, the Florida documents case, as you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July based on the unconstitutional
appointment of jack method d o j jack smith have that now on appeal so what we're expecting next if that jack smith will pull back that if he'll drop their appeal judge canada order that and which is very interesting at how it will affect future uh... special counsel uh... number q i will admit i'm surprised the jack smith and the d o j is dropping the washington case so quickly because judge chuck and on october twenty eight
A few days before the election set deadlines in that case into mid and late December.She wanted to drag this out until the very last minute.Even if Trump won, I actually thought the Jack Smith would at least continue to pursue those deadlines.
Those motions have one more court hearing, right?To drag out all this evidence before judge Chuck.I really thought that they were going to hold that to the last minute. Even if Donald Trump won, that is not the case.
So it does look like this law fair really has backfired.Now you saw Jim Jordan today, uh, a letter came out from the house judiciary committee.
He instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents, evidence in both cases, communications with other parties.Of course, this is something I've been pushing for months.
I've got a piece on my sub stack declassified with Julie Kelly that spells out
The, uh, prosecutorial abuse and misconduct in both of those cases, especially the Florida case where you guys know, I was at that courthouse numerous times covering firsthand what was happening there.
And the revelation about, uh, you know, the Mar-a-Lago armed raid where agents violated even the very broad terms of that search warrant.There are accusations of doctoring tampering and even destroying evidence in that case.
threatening witnesses one of the co-defendants a close aide, personal aide of Donald Trump, who Jay Bratt, who is one of Jack Smith's top henchmen, tried to bully him and threaten him and his attorney into flipping and becoming a government cooperator in that case.
The misconduct and criminality in the special counsel's office, not just Jack Smith, but his prosecutors and some of his investigators, It's very evident from, from the trial, from the proceedings in both cases.
And also guys, as I was posting today, Jack Smith spent at least $50 million, two years of this investigation, millions and contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies and white show white shoe law firm.
Um, but also more than $11 million in salaries and benefits. And this was just the first 14 months, by the way.
This is probably topping $20 million just in salaries and benefits because he's way behind in his, uh, his, uh, obligated required financial reporting, all of his expenses, including his personal protective details.
Every single dollar must be accounted for because I want to see where those contracts went and who those employees were and how they spent so much money.And then at the end, came up unprehended.
Speaking of Julie Kelly, declassified is her substack if you want to read her great analysis and support her work.Julie, you're in contact with both the Trump side of this equation and also lawyers and families of J6 individuals.
Just what's it like for them to know that, well, how much do we know at this point?I mean, my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons.What can you tell us about where this is going?
Um, I could say just, I was overwhelmed with text messages from attorneys, from J sixers and their loved ones.So relieved and hopeful that Trump won now the hard work really begins.So it's just, you know, putting together the pieces.
I really believe that president Trump is extremely devoted to the pardon commutation, um, project.Whoever his new attorney general will be particularly an acting DC us attorney, where all of these cases are litigated out of.
That individual must immediately on January 20th, 2025, shut down what the, uh, Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Matthew Graves, DOJ refers to as the Capitol siege investigation.That entire unit must be shut down on January 20th.
Any existing indictments you guys, they arrested a man from Georgia on election day, a key swing state, the FBI counter-terrorism task force.
arresting a man for his partition participation in January six, that capital siege division must be shut down immediately.
And then address the cases that have already been litigated, the conviction, the plea deals, and those languishing in prison or awaiting sentencing.These judges, by the way, DC are still moving these cases forward.
I heard from a J six or the other day who said his trial date has just been set for January 9th. These judges are not giving this up because they will have nothing else to do.
After January 20th, you could go to that court packet any day of the week, 75% of the cases before those judges relate to January six.I have no idea what they're going to do after January 20th.I do have an idea though.
Some of them should be impeached.Some of them should retire.And quite frankly, the entire DC federal court system should be shut down after what they've done to these individuals broke the law.
overturned by the Supreme court overturned in some cases by the appellate court, sentencing enhancements that did not match the law.Um, after the egregious misconduct in that courthouse, it should be completely shut down.
Julie Kelly, everybody.Julie, we appreciate, and I know the J6 defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've done on this topic.
And as we get more to the action phase of this, where people will get the clemency that they deserve, we will be talking to you more about it.Thanks so much for being here.
I appreciate you guys, and they do too.Thank you so much for covering my work.
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We are headed down to the great state of Florida where, man, we talked to a little bit ago, I think on the first day of early voting in Florida, if I'm not mistaken, Senator Rick Scott has won comfortably.Let's start here, Senator.
You've won every race by like one point that you've ever been involved in, if I remember correctly, in your entire political career.What was it like to win by double digits?I mean, this is a new experience for you.
I think it was all the Clay and Buck show.I think it was first day of early voting.I mean, look, Trump did Joe Rogan, I did Clay and Buck, and I won.We got nearly six million votes.We won by 1.4 million votes. So we, we won in Miami Dade County.
We won in by 10 points.We won in Osceola.So Hispanics are Republicans.Yes.Florida, Florida is Roja.Uh, so I've been, uh, I've been putting a lot of effort into Hispanic votes, uh, since I started running in 2010.
Um, and I gave people reason to vote for me.I said, guys, I want your kids.Like I want my kids.Like my mom wanted me to have the chance to live the dream of the country.I saw it.That's it.It's as simple as that. We all have our family.
We want them to have a chance.So I think Florida is the center of the Republican Party, and I think the rest of the country ought to watch what we're doing because we could teach them a hell of a lot about winning elections.
As you were campaigning, and congrats, Senator, on your reelection.
As you were campaigning in this state, my home state now, I'm part of that Florida revolution, that Florida miracle of people who fled communism during COVID to try to find freedom within this country.
But specifically speaking to the Hispanic and Latino population here,
Um, what, what was it that was motivating as you see it, what looks to be about a 10 to 15 point slide toward Trump in this election, you know, extrapolating that out from what you found in Florida.
I think what's happened with Hispanics is that, you know, I, I put a lot of effort into this thing, both starting back in 2010, Trump put effort in the Hispanic vote.And what's happened is Hispanics have looked and looked around and said,
Who's better for my job?Who's better for my kids education?You know, if you look nationwide, almost 90% of Hispanics are fed up with the public school system because they think that it's not helping their kids get ahead.
Uh, Hispanics want to live in a safe community.And so what they figured out is that's really the Republican issues, jobs, your kid's education, public safety.So I think that's what's happened.But part of it is show up.
You know, I did, I did about 20% of my events while I was governor and then in the Senate and in this, um, you know, expanding, expanding businesses, Hispanic chambers.
So, you know, you, you, uh, you've got to be a fun, you'll notice that there's also talk to this panel.So I'm we importantly part of me.And the other thing you do is help people when you should.
I couldn't put them around when the hurricane happened in Maria or in Puerto Rico, Maria in 2017. I opened up relief centers in the Miami and Orlando airport.I waived license licenses.I gave Puerto Ricans, uh, in-state tuition.
I there, they came in and became teachers immediately.They became mainly became a lot of different jobs that required licenses.And eventually they had to get them.Uh, we got them into our school system overnight.
It's 425,000 Puerto Ricans come through.And I think they're appreciative that somebody gave a damn. Um, and we're the only state that did it.
So I think that's one of the reasons I mean, I won Osceola County, um, uh, which, uh, the, um, uh, is, is unheard of.It's, it's, it's, um, it's a majority Puerto Rican and it's because I did my job.I mean, they're American citizens.
We ought to help them.Uh, so I think people vote what's good for them.
Senator Rick Scott with us, big winner on election night.I'm going to get to the next question, which is about who should be Senate Majority Leader and how that's going to play out.
But I want to read a statement that just came down from soon-to-be Senator Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania and let you react on this, Senator Scott.
I'm not sure if you've seen this, but they just said, the McCormick campaign released the following statement on the outcome of the Senate race in Pennsylvania.
McCormick is up 30,679 votes, with more to come as Ruby Red, Cambria County is still outstanding.
While votes continue to be counted, any way you slice it, Dave McCormick will be the next United States Senator from Pennsylvania, said Elizabeth Gregory, McCormick Communications Director.
This is one of the last races in the Senate, still outstanding, that will get Republicans to at least 53.OK, so with that in mind,
Several Senate majority seats is not going to be something where the, hopefully the VP has to break, uh, ties very often.Mitch McConnell is stepping down.Who in your mind, Senator Scott should be the next majority leader?
How do you see it playing out?
Well, I believe I'm going to be the next majority leader because I believe what I've been talking about is exactly what Republican senators want.So I've been talking to my Republican colleagues.Uh, as you know, I ran against McConnell back in 22.
And here's what they want.They want change.They want to they want to be part of the Trump mandate.They want to be treated as equals.They want to have a real agenda to get things done.They want to be part of a team.
They want they know we need to work with the House. And so that's what I've been talking about.I've been talking about since I ran against McConnell and, and they know I'm a business guy like Trump.They know I've got a great relationship with Trump.
They've got, they know I have a great relationship with the speaker, Mike Johnson, and here's what business guys do.We get results.How do we do it?Well, we have a purpose.We build a team.We write a plan.
We measure ourselves constantly to get a result.That's what, that's what, that's what I talked to my Republican colleagues. They're frustrated.They want to get something done.
And the approach is, you know, McConnell Schumer approaches, you know, we don't get anything done.I mean, I've been up there six years.It's been a pain in the butt.I mean, I can't get him.I can't.You can't get a vote on something.
You can't, you know, because we just all we do is nominations. And we have problems.We got almost $36 trillion with a debt.We got an open border.We got high inflation.We're not adding full-time jobs.We got problems.
So this idea that, well, we're just going to come up there and have lunch and do a couple of nominees every week, that doesn't get it for most of my colleagues.And so I think I'm going to win because this is what we all know we have to do.
Our country is in trouble.That's why Trump won.He's got a mandate. And I, he knows, I think my colleagues know that I'll have a plan to get Trump's nominations done.I'll have a plan to get Trump's agenda done.
I'll have a plan to get the tax cuts done.I'll have, you know, I'll have a plan to get stuff done.So, um, so I'm, I'm, what I'm doing is basically responding to what my colleagues want.Uh, so I, what I did is I went around and talked to him.
I, you know, I went down and talked to him and said, what do you want?How do you want, how, how do you think this place ought to be run?And what would be important to you?A leader is not a dictator.
A leader is organizes people to work together for a better cause.So my job is to do just what I built the largest hospital company in the world.I built a bunch of manufacturing companies.
My way I did that is I had a purpose and I worked my, I worked it every day and I measured stuff to get a result. And so that's what that's what my colleagues want.And that's why I think I'm going to be the I'll be the next majority leader.
And it's not for it's not for me.It's for them.And it's for Trump's agenda.
We're speaking to Senator Scott in Florida.And Senator, assuming you do become a majority leader, and it certainly seems like that's a very good, strong possibility, you mentioned the economy.You actually have private sector business experience.
One thing the American people, I believe, will benefit from dramatically in the next iteration of the Trump administration is having people in very senior roles, including the president himself, who understand how business works and understand how to
build wealth and prosperity on a broad scale.What would you want to see done?I mean, what is something that as Senate majority leader you could point to concretely?I mean, you mentioned tax cuts.What kind of tax cuts?
We talk about energy, what should be done on the legislative side.I mean, I know some of it is legislating and some of it is deregulating, but what is top of the agenda?I mean, give us some concretes.
So here, here's what, so when I was in business, my biggest frustration was not my competition. My biggest frustration wasn't anything other than government because it was just like a black hole.You couldn't get an answer.They had stupid rules.
So when I was governor, I promised 700,000 jobs when I was running 2010, Florida had a bad economy at the time.I got 1.7 million private sector jobs, less.We, we drew society government and how do we do it?Really?
The truth is number one was not the tax cuts.We did a hundred tax cut.Number one was the permitting times. and the regulatory environment.We have five water management districts in Florida.
If you take a few years to get something that you were entitled to, I got that down in most cases to less than a week.You were entitled to a license, a professional license, it would still take you 47 days.I got that down to a day.
So it's one, it's permitting, two, it's regulatory, and then you say to yourself, what don't we need?What fees don't we need?What taxes don't we need?And you constantly say, how do we do that?Because guess what?We're competing globally.
So if, if, if nobody walks into a business and says, I, you know, I heard it took you long to get that permit.So I'll pay you a little bit more, or I heard that you got to comply with more regulations.I'll pay you more.
Oh, I heard you got some fees with local government or state government does.I'll pay you a little bit more.So we've got to understand in business, we are competing globally.
I want American jobs and then we, and we can't, we've got to stop China's unfair trade practices. We gotta stop.The most basic thing we ought to do as individuals is stop buying their crap.Stop buying nothing.Go cold turkey.
They want to destroy our way of life.So the way I think about it is what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna make sure we win the leaders race and then I'm gonna sit down with Trump and Mike Johnson and say, so okay, what do we want to get done?
Okay, let's write a plan and let's work it every week and if something's not working, we're gonna change. And so but I know I know that the types of I like all tax cuts, but let's think about the ones that have the biggest impact.
It's the ones that make us globally uncompetitive.That's the biggest taxes we ought to be doing.And how do we get people to invest in American businesses?Because if you want more American jobs, you want more Americans to start their businesses.
If you want more American jobs, you want you want people to build their plant in America. And so you say, OK, so which you know, that's how I would that's how I will think about it.
But if the leader's job is to take the best ideas and organize the Republicans to come together with the best ideas, you can get enough votes to pass the legislation, because if you don't get enough votes to pass the legislation, you have great ideas and nothing happens.
The job of the leader is to bring people together to get something accomplished.
No doubt.Now, what's the time frame for the leadership decision and how many people do you expect will be running?Ultimately, it looks like there's going to be 53 of y'all that sit down and make a decision about who should be the majority leader.
What's that process look like and what's the time frame?
Well, it's by our bylaws, it's supposed to be in January.But what they've been doing since McConnell's been around, they've been rushing the vote.
So the vote is now going to be next Wednesday, which is really unfair to our new members because, you know, they don't they don't know how the process works.And, you know, and for a lot of us like me, I've been going through a campaign
This is my campaign season.So anyway, they're, they're scheduling the vote for next Wednesday.So what I've got to do to win is I'll have to get a majority of 53. so I'll get to get 27 votes.And so I'm talking to my colleagues about.
My job is, how do I help you get what you came up here to accomplish?Everybody's got a why they're there, right?I got my why.My why is I want every kid to live the dream I live, right?So everybody's got their why.
My job as leader will be, okay, what's your why?How do I get you to get that accomplished?
Um, so I'm, so what I'm doing is I'm talking to my colleagues, um, about, uh, you know, what, you know, how I can, how I can help them get what they want to get accomplished.And, and then, you know, I do what I do in my business life.
I'm going to win and then I'm going to go do it.And I'm going to make all my, my job is to make all my colleagues really successful.Just like in business.If all the people worked with me were really successful, I probably did fine.
Senator Rick Scott big winner in the state of Florida running for Senate majority leader now with 53 at least Republicans going to join Him in making that decision and it should be should be outstanding to see good luck senator Congrats on the big win and we're happy to have helped you get that landslide down in the free state of Florida All right.
Thanks.Have a great day Will do for sure.That's Senator Rick Scott in the mix for Senate Majority Leader.We'll see how that plays out.It's going to happen very soon, replacing Mitch McConnell.You heard his pitch there.
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