Hey true crime besties, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly. Hey, everybody.Welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly with me, Annie Elise, Headline Highlights Edition.
We are going through everything, and I mean everything, that is going on this week in the true crime world.I want to stop really quick.Stop.I want to start really quick by giving a shout out to Apple.
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I'll see you tonight. Now, let's move into the first case that we are going to be talking about today, and it talks about a woman, no, and it's about a woman who not only killed her parents, but she lived with the bodies for years.
So, on Friday, October 11th, 36-year-old Virginia McCullough from Chelmsford, Essex in the United Kingdom, was sentenced to a minimum of 36 years in prison for murdering her parents.Her parents' names were Lois and John.
Now, by 2023, John and Lois had not been seen in a very, very long time.
Eventually, their doctor became very worried because the couple had missed so many different doctor's appointments, they had also failed to pick up their prescription medication, so all sorts of red flags and alarm bells were going off.
And they hadn't just missed one or two appointments, that's not what I'm saying.Their doctor actually hadn't seen them for almost four years.
And get this, anytime the doctor's office tried to get in contact with John or Lois, Virginia would pick up the phone and say that her parents, you know, were off traveling, they couldn't make their regularly scheduled appointments, they couldn't pick up their prescriptions, they were just out and about.
And she didn't just tell the doctors that. Virginia told this to anyone who tried to get in contact with her parents, whether it be their doctors, friends, family members, I mean, you name it.
Virginia would make up some excuse as why her parents weren't available, and she would just never give any more information.
Either they were sick, they moved to a different part of the country, they were going away on some extremely long trip, I mean, you name it, she had the excuse locked and loaded.And neighbors also started to notice the couple's absence.
They would see Virginia, but they would never see anybody else.The curtains on the house were also always drawn, and it was just very out of the ordinary.
However, eventually, the couple just missed too many of those doctor's appointments, and then it started becoming suspicious. So their doctor decided to call in a welfare check on the couple in September of 2023.
And when the police arrived at the couple's home, Virginia told them what she basically told everybody.Her parents were gone.They were traveling.But the police weren't buying it.
Something seemed suspicious, and they wanted to go inside and search the home.So Virginia, surprisingly, let them in.But get this.She didn't just let them search the home.
She even gave up on that story that she had told them about her parents traveling. and she almost instantly confessed to the fact that she killed her parents.And she had killed them years earlier.
Apparently, in June of 2019, so literally four years earlier, before this welfare check, Virginia said that she crushed up pills and she put them in an alcoholic drink, all so she could poison her mom and dad.
This concoction ended up killing her dad, but it only sedated her mom. So the next day, while her mom was sitting in bed just listening to the radio, relaxing, Virginia attacked her with a hammer.Then she stabbed her multiple times.
She then apparently made this quote, makeshift tomb out of concrete blocks. and she put this tomb inside her father's study.
She disguised the tomb to make it look like a bed and I guess with like sheets or blankets over it and you know how you know how concrete blocks are you can make like a pretty big rectangle and you it could almost look like what's the word i'm looking for not a mattress a box spring not a box spring like the frame you know what i'm talking about so she made this and then she hid her father's body underneath
Then, she wrapped her mom's body in a sleeping bag and shoved it inside a dresser, or like a wardrobe, one of those standing dressers.
So when the police arrived years later in September 2023, not only did Virginia confess, but she told them exactly where to find the bodies.
You're under arrest for suspicion of murder against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch, okay? okay um obviously um a little bit more complicated upstairs there were about five wardrobes yeah i've slipped a pile of those into his drink
He only drunk probably about half of two.But, yeah, when I went in in the morning, this was before my mother, when I went in the morning, early hours, I got up about half an hour early, about six o'clock in the morning, came in and he was gone.
I did know that this would kind of come eventually, and it's proper that I serve my punishment.
Cheer up, at least you caught the bad guy. Virginia later said that when she was killing her mother, quote, it was like someone badly playing the xylophone.It was willy-nilly, end quote.Which, I don't even know what that means, guys.
I'm not even gonna pretend to know what that means.Like, it was like someone badly playing the xylophone.It was willy-nilly.When you play the xylophone, it's like the little like ding ding ding
I wish you could see what I'm doing, but you know what I mean?Where you like hit the thing a million times, it's like rainbow color.Well, if you have a toddler, it's rainbow color.But like, what do you even mean?
Is she describing that's how casual it was?Is that, is she describing that as that's how she did the stabbing?Like it wasn't as xylophone and she was just like kind of going down the line?
I don't know, but it is beyond gross that she is saying that so casually.Now, neighbors also said that Virginia kind of always seemed odd.However, they said not to the point where they ever thought that she would kill her parents.
It was later discovered, though, that she killed her parents for a tale as old as time—money.
Virginia lived with her parents rent-free, and she told them that she worked as a web designer, and she would often even take this a step further and pretend to go to work.But the reality was that Virginia hadn't worked since 2017.
She was secretly using her parents' personal savings and also racking up extremely large amounts of debt on their credit cards.
However, Virginia would explain this away by telling them, you know, they just got scammed out of their money, their bank accounts had gotten hacked, something like that.
She was worried, though, that they would eventually figure out what she was doing.So, she decided that the only answer was to murder them. Her mother was 71 years old when she died, and her father was 70.
At Virginia's sentencing this past week, family members ran a joint victim impact statement which said, our family has been left devastated and heartbroken at the deaths of our parents, who were taken from us so cruelly.
As we try to move forward with our lives, we will remember the happy times we enjoyed with them.Our mom and dad are forever in our hearts and are loved and missed beyond measure. Now, I don't know if you guys want this, but you tell me.
There seems to be a lot of info on this case.So if you want the deep dive, I definitely can go into it more.Like, what has she been doing the last four years while the bodies have literally been inside the home in that makeshift tomb?
What was really going on leading up to the murders with the finances?There is a lot of information.So if you want the deep dive, let me know either via Spotify on the Q&A section or in the review section on Apple Podcasts.
Now let's move into another very unnerving case, and this one I actually think I'm going to do a deep dive.I don't even need to ask you guys, but tell me if you want to anyway.This one's in Colorado.
But this case is absolutely wild to me, and I feel like even for my own sanity, I need to do a deep dive on it. So this past January, police were called to a house in Grand Junction, Colorado.
The home was recently sold, and these new owners were apparently selling a freezer that had been left inside the home by the previous owners.
So, I don't know if this was on, you know, Facebook Marketplace or whatever, but they were selling this freezer, and someone came to buy the freezer. However, when they arrived, they discovered a human head and human hands inside.
So obviously, the police were called, and they eventually started investigating this case as a homicide.
Then, this past Friday, on October 11th, the sheriff's office announced that they used DNA testing to discover that the head and the hands that were found inside this freezer belonged to a 16-year-old little girl named Amanda Overstreet.
But here's where it gets even weirder.She hasn't been seen or heard from since April 2005.Almost 20 years.She was also, get this, the biological daughter of the home's previous owner.
The owner who sold the house, left the freezer, and their daughter's body parts were inside that freezer. There's also no record that she was ever officially reported as missing.So now are you understanding guys like why I want to do this deep dive?
I feel like there has got to be so much more to this story.
Missing for 20 years, never reported missing, your parents move out of the house, sell the home, leave a freezer behind, your missing daughter's body parts are inside that freezer, like what is going on?
So records show that the house previously belonged to somebody named Bradley David Emmer and his wife Leanne Overstreet.Bradley died of COVID in 2021, and it's unclear if Bradley was Amanda's father or not.However, Leanne was her biological mother.
So when it was announced that these remains were found inside this freezer at the home, neighbors started wondering if the remains did, in fact, belong to Amanda.This was before it was ever confirmed.
They said that they used to see Amanda walking to school back in 2005.One of the neighbors noted that Amanda used to dress pretty strangely, almost like an old lady.And then they say she just suddenly disappeared.
And when she disappeared, and when neighbors asked what happened to Amanda, Her family said she was sent off to Texas somewhere.
But there was something really weird about the whole situation, because as time went by, a neighbor noticed that the house started smelling really bad.
The neighbor walked their dog every single morning, and the house where Amanda lived apparently just reeked of mildew. Now, the sheriff's office has confirmed that these new homeowners have absolutely nothing to do with this case.
They also have announced that they are currently investigating Amanda's death.They have yet to publicly announce any suspects, though.
And they also have stated, quote, investigators believe that this was an isolated incident and that there is no ongoing threat to the community, end quote, meaning, I think to me at least, indicating it's something that happened close to home.
But the whole situation is so, so strange.And of course, many people are wondering, as I'm sure you are, Are Amanda's parents involved?Did they kill her?I mean, it seems like they had to know that her body was in that freezer, right?
There's also a lot of conflicting information online right now because some sources say that Amanda went missing in 2005 and that her parents didn't buy the house until 2006.
Which, if that's the case, would that mean that they may have transported her body from one place to another?
Some sources also say that Amanda has friends who have been looking for her for years, but they say that law enforcement wouldn't ever allow them to report her missing because they weren't related.
A blood relative had to make that, you know, claim apparently.
I also have read that some of Amanda's old friends had somewhat recently messaged Amanda's mom on Facebook just trying to look for their old friend, trying to get answers, see if her mom had heard from Amanda.
But her mom would just reply that she had no idea where Amanda was.And she would say that she hadn't heard from her in a very long time.
So definitely a bizarre one and this case is developing and there are still a lot of unanswered questions right now so I will keep you posted but more than likely I also will be doing a deep dive into this case.Now moving over into Washington.
In Paulsbo, Washington, at around 3pm on October 9th, 23-year-old Seth South called 911 and he said that his half-brother slit his own throat. Now, during the call, the line suddenly went silent, but then fighting could be heard in the background.
So police officers were sent to the home.The front door was unlocked.But through a front window, one officer saw a person lying face down in the kitchen.When they entered the home, they found that the body belonged to a young teen male.
He was lying in a pool of blood with two knives lying close by.So police searched the home, and they found another male body on the second floor at the top of the staircase.
Officers said that the teenager was found in, quote, a very unusual position, and that they also had a slit throat.They also found more knives and at least three guns inside the home.
So officers contacted the boy's relatives, who said that the boy's half-brother, Seth, the one who called 911, admitted to killing them.However, Seth apparently told different stories to different family members.
After 3pm that day, Seth talked to his mother's partner, her spouse, and said that he killed two people, but he didn't say who.
So Seth's mother then asked his grandfather to call Seth, and Seth apparently told his grandfather that he did kill his two half-brothers, and he also said, quote, "'You're either with me or you're against me.'"
So when Seth's mom called him to figure out what was really going on, Seth changed his story yet again and said he didn't kill anyone.
And apparently, Seth also told one of his friends that he was now going to go to Missouri to kill another family member.It seems to be another one of his brothers.
So after finding the bodies of the young boys, obviously, a manhunt quickly ensued for Seth because officers believed that he fled in his Toyota truck.
Eventually, he was found near Bonney Lake late Wednesday evening, and officers had to use spike strips to stop Seth's truck, you know, the things you lay out in the road and will give you a flat tire.
So when they finally pulled Seth over, he was taken into custody and his truck was searched. In Seth's truck, officers found blood on the center console and also bloody clothing.
Now while he was being interviewed by the police, Seth changed his story again.Now he was saying that one of his brothers killed the other, which then caused Seth to kill the surviving brother.
During this interview, Seth also tried to flee and even assaulted an officer in the process. Thankfully, the officer wasn't severely injured and is doing okay, but seems like a pretty erratic guy.
Seth is currently charged with two counts of second-degree murder, and he was charged with assaulting an officer, but that charge ended up being dropped.He is being held in jail, though, without bail.
He also made an initial court appearance on Thursday, and he's going to be evaluated for mental competency at a local hospital before his next hearing, which is on October 25th.
Now, in another very eerie, confusing case that's breaking right now, so on Tuesday, October 8th, Stephanie Iarson was flying to go visit her 78-year-old mom, Patricia.
Patricia lived in Vancouver, Washington, and her plan was to go pick up her daughter from the airport when she arrived. So before her flight, Stephanie sent her mom a message, you know, saying, here's my departure time.I'm getting on the plane.
I'll see you soon.And her mom reacted to the message and hearted it, you know, giving that little reaction.So Stephanie knew that her mom saw the message and that she would be at the airport waiting for her.
However, when Stephanie got to the airport, her mom wasn't there.Stephanie tried to text her.She tried to call her cell phone, call her home phone.But her mom just did not answer.And this was very unlike her.
And Stephanie ended up waiting for over an hour.And her mom just never showed. Eventually, Stephanie became nervous, and she contacted her aunt, asking her, you know, can you go check on mom?
So when Stephanie's aunt went to Patricia's home, she found Patricia unresponsive on the floor.She ran to a neighbor's house, and they tried to revive her, but unfortunately, they were not successful.The aunt called 911.
This was now around 10 p.m., and when the sheriff's deputies arrived at Patricia's home, they determined that Patricia had been murdered.She had been strangled because she had ligature marks all around her neck.
However, police noted that there was nothing missing from the home.There were also no signs of forced entry.So that begs the question, did Patricia know her attacker?
But what makes this even more confusing is the fact that Patricia had contacted the police the very morning of her murder, all for something unrelated.
In the early morning hours of October 8th, Patricia had been alerted by her bank of pending fraudulent charges.She also at that point discovered that her wallet was missing.
So some reports say that Patricia's home was burglarized the night before, on Monday night, October 7th.But again, there were no signs of forced entry in her home.
Nevertheless, though, Patricia filed a fraud report with the local sheriff's department on the morning of October 8th.So this all begs the question, are these incidents related?Did the person who stole Patricia's wallet come back to kill her?
Police are still investigating, and they also have not named any suspects or persons of interest, but this is a very interesting case, and kind of wild because she literally responded to her daughter's text, assuming it was her, right before she departed, and then just didn't show up at the airport.
So was this an afternoon, early evening murder?Was it a burglar who then went back to the scene of the crime and killed her?They couldn't have found out that she filed a report that quickly.Could they have?I don't know.
There's more information so I'm going to be sticking on this one very closely to figure out what's going on here.
Now really quickly I'm going to go refill my water and we are going to take a quick break and then I will be back and go over more of the headlines with you.
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Alright, so the next case from this week takes us to Oregon.And on September 21st, at an apartment complex outside of Portland, Oregon, Tristan Salvador Thomas was found with several stab wounds and also with a slit throat.
At around 11.30pm, paramedics arrived on the scene and they rushed Tristan to the hospital.Unfortunately, though, he died from his injuries on October 3rd.
Now according to a probable cause affidavit, on the evening of September 21st, Tristan got in a fight with his neighbor Christopher Stewart.
They got into an argument apparently over the way that Christopher parked his motorcycle at their apartment complex.Then Christopher assaulted Tristan.And Tristan pepper sprayed Christopher in retaliation.
Tristan then called the police at around 5.30pm, however no arrests were ever made.But this was on the same evening that he was found with several stab wounds. So Tristan went to a hospital nearby, but he didn't receive any treatment.
He called the police officers at around 8pm to let them know that he was going home.He also asked the officers if Christopher would be arrested.But the officers said there wasn't enough evidence to make an arrest.
So at around 9pm, Tristan called the police again.This time, he wanted to ask for a welfare check on Christopher's apartment.Tristan said that he heard a child scream from inside the apartment, and then heard Christopher slap the child.
Police arrived and responded to this call, but they didn't find anything suspicious.So they left. But that wasn't the end of it, because just a little over two hours later, Tristan called 911 again.
This time, he said that Christopher's two friends, Chad and Samantha, along with Christopher's daughter, were all outside of Tristan's apartment trying to confront him.But the call was then eventually dropped.
The 911 dispatcher tried calling back, and eventually someone did answer the phone, but it wasn't Tristan.It was the friend, Samantha.Samantha said everything was fine, but the 911 operator could hear Tristan yelling in the background for help.
So officers were, of course, dispatched to the scene, and when they got there, they found Tristan with multiple stab wounds to his face, his neck, and his shoulders.He was rushed to the hospital, where he eventually died days later.
Now, according to Christopher, Chad, and Samantha, Tristan was stalking Christopher's daughter on the evening of September 21st.
Apparently, Christopher was at Samantha's apartment with Chad when he received a call from his daughter that a man was just stalking her around the apartment complex.
And because of what had happened earlier in the day, Christopher assumed that it was Tristan.So he, his daughter, Chad, and Samantha all went to Tristan's apartment to confront him. And when they found Tristan, he was holding a large knife.
So they confronted Tristan, and in fact, the interaction was filmed by people in the area.Apparently, in one video, Chad says, and then Samantha replies, The video then shows Chad going toward Tristan, and Tristan can be heard screaming for help.
He also yells out, he's stabbing me.And this attack was so barbaric, it lasted almost five minutes.Eventually, Chad and Samantha left the scene of the crime, and they threw the knife on top of Tristan before leaving.
They also took Tristan's phone with them, which was why Samantha's the one who answered the phone when the 911 dispatcher tried to call Tristan back.
Chad was eventually arrested shortly after the attack, and Samantha ended up turning herself in last week.Originally, Chad was only charged with assault and was released on bond.
But after Tristan died, Chad was arrested again and charged with second-degree murder.He's currently in jail without bond.Samantha is also charged with first-degree assault, tampering with physical evidence, and interference with making a report.
Now, Samantha has claimed that Tristan attacked Chad with the knife first and cut him under the eye and stabbed him in the ribcage.She took pictures of Chad's injuries, too, but police found the images highly, highly suspicious.
They also noted that Chad didn't have any defensive wounds.
Tristan's family has set up a GoFundMe to cover the funeral costs, and the GoFundMe description says, Tristan was a pillar to his community, giving back by delivering mail to the same community that he grew up in.
He is described as quirky, boisterous, lovable, vibrant, and had a precedent about him that brought a smile to many.You always knew when he was in the room.
It's just unfortunately so sad in situations like this, where arguing and fighting escalates to where somebody then takes it a step further and literally murders somebody.All over what?
I mean, not saying that if he was stalking, that should be taken lightly, but it doesn't seem like there was any proof of that.I don't know, I'm still looking into it.It seems like it was all over the argument of how the car was parked. I don't know.
But then we also have the phone call of him reporting that he heard slapping and arguing in the apartment.Who knows?But it feels like a very senseless crime.Now moving over to Kentucky.This case is wild.
I hope you have not eaten recently because chances are you are going to vomit everything up.But in Robertson County, Kentucky, on October 9th, a mother named Trudy Fields was found dead in her home.
Early that afternoon, police were called by a maintenance worker who had been hired by Trudy.This man went into Trudy's home, expecting to do work on the property, but nobody was answering the door.
Eventually, he went to the backyard, and when he did, he found a pile of hair that looked like Trudy's.He also found a bloodstained mattress and drag marks in the grass.
So the man followed these drag marks, and he found what looked to be Trudy's dismembered body, just lying there, out in the open, in the lawn.
When the police arrived at the home, they questioned the maintenance worker who said that he saw Trudy the previous day and that everything was fine, but he also mentioned somebody else. Trudy's 32-year-old daughter, Toralina.
She was also at the house the previous day, and apparently she had been behaving pretty strangely.The maintenance worker said that she was, quote, casting spells on them and also being confrontational.
Police found that Toralea was still in the home and also refused to leave.So they obtained a search warrant for the home and eventually had to use multiple rounds of tear gas to get her to exit the house.
Eventually, she was removed from the home at around 11pm on October 9th. She was covered in blood, she had it on her hands, her face, and her clothing, and when the police searched the home, they found multiple body parts inside a pot inside an oven.
The pot was still warm, and the body parts, quote, appeared to have been cooked. More body parts and organs were also found on a mattress.It was eventually found that the body's arms, legs, and head had been removed.
The spine was also, quote, severed in half and the organs were removed.Toralina was charged with obstructing governmental operations, tampering with physical evidence, and also abuse of a corpse.However, then her charges were upgraded.
She's also now facing one charge of murder and one charge relating to animal torture. An indictment filed this Monday says that she shot her mother in the head, then stabbed her multiple times.
It also says that she intentionally tortured and killed a dog. Now, apparently Toralina was somewhat recently involved in a motorcycle accident that caused brain damage to her.She was also under the influence of drugs at the time of the murder.
A county judge entered a not guilty plea on her behalf, and she is currently being held on a $1.5 million bond.Her next court date is scheduled for October 23rd. I mean, gross.I don't know how many times we have heard of people cooking body parts.
Usually it's to dispose of the evidence.They think that if they can cook it, they can like reduce it, and they can then dispose of it that way.
But if she was casting spells the day before, and I'm not even gonna pretend to know anything about that world, but I can't help but wonder if that was part of whatever spell she was trying to cast, or whatever sacrifice maybe she was trying to make.
I don't know, but it's unnerving regardless. Now I want to move into another case that I might not do a deep dive on, but I might do a deeper dive into it than normal, than I normally would do here in Headline Highlights.
And I might put it as one of the bonus ad-free episodes.But let me break it down for you.I'm still doing some research, which is why I'm not sure yet.But it's about a TikTok influencer who kills a therapist.
So on September 29, about 60 miles northeast of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the body of 69-year-old William Abraham was found wrapped inside a tarp along a highway.
It was determined that he was killed by blunt force trauma, and his death was ruled as a suicide. That same day, it was also discovered that Williams' car was missing.
It was eventually captured on surveillance camera footage at a shopping center about 20 minutes away from Baton Rouge.
On September 30th, police officers located the car and attempted to stop it, but the vehicle sped off, crashed, and then the driver fled on foot.The suspect was then found in Texas on October 1st, and he was identified as a very popular TikToker.
20-year-old Terian Thomas, who is also known as Mr. Prada.Police found surveillance camera footage that showed his apartment complex, and at around 11 a.m.
on September 28th, William was seen arriving at the apartment in the same clothing that he was eventually found dead in.
Footage from the apartment complex then shows Tarion dragging something that's wrapped in a blue tarp down the stairs and out to his car.Other people in the apartment complex also witnessed him doing this.
So police eventually searched his apartment, and inside, they found evidence of what they are calling, quote, a violent physical altercation. They found Williams' blood, multiple sharp objects, and other weapons.
Soterion was originally charged with second-degree murder, but the charges have been upgraded to first-degree murder.And that's because of Williams' age.
See, Louisiana law allows for first-degree murder when the offender has the specific intent to kill or inflict greater bodily harm upon a victim who is under the age of 12 or 65 years of age or older.
So because William was older, these charges are now upgraded.
Now, Tarion has more than 4 million followers on his TikTok account, and right now it doesn't appear that he was William's patient, so a motive for William's death is still under investigation.But as you can imagine, the rumor mill, it is churning.
I mean, people are going wild.So that's why I said I might do, like, a deeper dive into this rather than a full Monday episode, but I still need to research a little bit more.
But as a reminder, if you want access to those episodes, you can do so, especially right now because of the Creators We Love program for 40% off.
You just do that on the Apple Podcast app, or you can also do it if you don't use Apple and if you use Spotify or have an Android or something like that, you can do it through Patreon and get the same perks.
Actually, you can even get more perks on Patreon, and that's patreon.com slash Annie Elise, but I will also put that link in the show notes. Now, a little bit of a teaser for the upcoming bonus episode this week.
It is about a disappearance, a shallow grave, a prison escape, and an innocent friend who just so happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.So that will release on Friday completely ad-free.
Alright guys, other than that, I will see you tonight in Salt Lake City.We are also doing a free meet and greet after.I can't wait to meet all of you guys.
I'll be delivering a brand new case that you haven't heard before, that I haven't talked with you about before, and I can't wait to meet you.
Other than that, I will be back on the mic with you first thing Monday morning with an all new deep dive case.Until then, stay safe, watch your back, and be nice.Don't kill people.Thanks so much guys.Talk with you soon.Bye.
