Alex.Cam.Alexa.Fitz.Matt.Fitz.Swag.Fitz.Camera.Here we are.In the bush.
It's nice.It's a nice day.Beautiful day.We've been trekking around.We've been spotting wildlife.We've been getting bit.A lot.We've been having fun.A lot of fun.Too much fun.I am sorry.Spending time with friends outdoors.What could be better?
Spending time indoors.Spending time indoors?You like that bit?Yeah.Mozzie's, yeah.You're a gamer, Matt.How can you complain when we got kangaroos behind us like this?
I can pull up kangaroos on my phone.Yes, true.I think it's hard to talk about having a good time because you look at them, they look like they're having a much better time than we are.
Lying down.Yeah.Having to do a conversation on camera.Yeah.How you boys doing? Good.Yeah.Great.It's good to be chatting to some Australian YouTubers.Yeah.Thank you for dressing us up like we're actually Australian YouTubers.
I mean, it's weird that you're pinning that on us when you packed that clothes and you asked us if it was okay to wear it.No.And we said it was fine.I did not say that.
And then while setting up the podcast, you kept going, are you sure that we look okay?
Like, is this... Which camera do I have to look at to make a video?Don't look at it.Okay.I wanted to tell them so they know that they're lying.
They're lying.They're lying, yeah.
You asked our shoe size.Yep.Our belt size.Yep.Our cock size.Yep.All of it.We had to make sure everything worked.Yeah, it does.It fits great.Mine doesn't work.You guys look great.Thank you, thank you.We're so happy to have you here.
Obviously, you are responsible for the abomination that is the I Do The Thing channel.Yep, thank you.Thank you.And you were the chairman of the Boy Boy channel.
Thank you.I'm glad my one wasn't an abomination.That's really nice. That's not fair.It's just a better channel.That is true.
Sometimes I just get mean.It entertains me.It's going to be targeted just towards me.I have a feeling.
What's that channel you guys do?
Oh yeah.Because of Fits and then the...
That's what everyone says, but I actually didn't come up with a name.Who came up with it?Everyone thinks I'm just some kind of egomaniac.
I didn't come up with it.It was Mason.It was Zuckles.
It was Mason that I remember specifically being like, I don't really think we should go that way.People are going to think like it's a me thing.Everyone's like, well, it's the best name we can think of.And I was like,
At least it doesn't have yours as fits with a Z. Yeah.If it had the Z, then it would be, you'd be a narcissist.That's true.
I think that was the original idea about Mason having the Z. Yeah, Mason wanted it with the Z. Oh, no.
That's crazy.Then you would avoid copyright as well from getting it.From the punk band.Well, the punk band did have some problems with the Z. Yeah, they did.
In the early days, yeah.They didn't appreciate it.They wouldn't let us make merchandise with misogyny porn.
And they wouldn't let you use their faces.They wouldn't let us play their music.
Oh, this is Contraband, though.This one's original.Oh, yeah.It's true.
That's what I thought.Anyway, anything else we're getting to you guys about?
So, let's talk about your YouTube channels a little bit.Alex, you are famous for making things.Yeah, and doing them.And doing them too.Contraptions, inventions.
Yeah, contraptions, devices, gizmos and gadgets.Mechanisms.
A bit of animal torture mixed in there as well, when I can.Controversial gun opinions. It's not controversial in Australia.No, just to Americans that love killing school children.That's the part that's controversial.What made you start doing this?
Well, I think since I was a kid, I was always kind of... just fucking things up.Like I would just, whenever we would get appliances or things, I'd always be like, oh, I want to open that up and take a look inside.
I didn't really know what I was doing or how it worked, but I just pulled it apart.And then I continued to do that until I was like 18, I progressed into exploding things.
So at school, I was always the guy that brought in, I was like, oh, we can thermite the school locks closed.And we tried that.You tried that?How far did you get?It didn't,
Like weld them together, just melt it through them and then like... That's thermite.But I think we did that, it was a primary school as well, because our school was connected to a primary school.
You were in like, you were in high school when you did this?Yeah, high school.And you did that to the little kid's school.
It sounds like a bad idea now, but at the time it was a great idea.It made sense, it made sense temporarily.So you attempted to weld the locks so they wouldn't open anymore? I don't know the logic, I don't know what I'm trying to do.
He's trying to keep the kids safe.Once they leave those gates, they're easy pickings.They're so small.
Alexa was involved in this as well, it's great.In the keeping the kids safe bit.Yeah, yeah.How did you two meet?Yeah, was it primary school or high school?It was high school.We hated each other.
Yeah, I used to bully him.
I didn't actually realize you went back to high school.
Who bullied who?I bullied him.He bullied me.
What did you bully him about?
He didn't have any friends.
Did you pick on his appearance?
No, that's more of a now thing.He used to be a lot hotter.Yeah, he's disgusting.Old habits die hard.
It's all downhill.So you saw him with no friends and you thought, instead of giving him some friends, let's just keep it how it is.
Yeah, pretty much.Only really changed when
he became a big youtuber and i was like i could i could milk this this ugly lonely man it's by like you know pretending to be his friend hanging out with him it's just it's paid dividends it's done so well i wouldn't be here talking to you guys if i didn't pretend to hang out with this guy you gotta stop reminds me though you're gonna reveal to the government what our deal is no no no cut that out okay cut that out we'll just bleep it we'll just bleep it yeah yeah yeah what bleep you gotta stop
Sounds like you have some kind of sexual arrangement.Are you like married for tax reasons?
We tried but... Oh that's right, well you guys, the boy boy channel did the going to Disneyland to become homosexuals right?
Yeah, you'd only like partially work.
You didn't feel the spark?
It made me straighter than ever, I think.It made me a little bit gayer, maybe because you had to kiss me.But I got to kiss him, and that was pretty good.He's got really soft lips.
I think the problem is the moustache hair.I mean, the lips were nice.I was like, yeah, I can get around this.But then the hair, the little tickling of the The tongue and the... It's a bit different.There's no pretending it's a woman.
No, you can't.Unless you're like a really hairy woman.Or like a female gorilla.
I would kiss a female gorilla.Is it less gay to kiss a female gorilla?
I think a female gorilla is a very masculine animal.
It's comparatively straight.
Yeah, you have to be the manliest man.You have to catch the gorilla and then hold it down.
Or would you be the manliest man to fuck a male gorilla?
Yeah, that's pretty manly.Well, I have a friend who... No you don't.I thought you had a gorilla story.I'm like, you do not have a gorilla story.No, I've got a gay story.That's what I want to say.
So I have a friend and his theory was like that straight men are actually more gay because you know they like little feminine women and he was like there's nothing straighter than having sex with a man, you know, it's like you're a big manly man.
There's some hoops we jumped through in this conversation.Is he a manly gay dude?He wasn't gay so he just came up with this idea.
Maybe that's his rationale for Jack and I have to keep going.He's so straight.Look at these manly men.I could take any of these guys. So when did you guys start your channels together?Which one came first?Boy Boy or Identify?Boy Boy.
The less popular one was the first attempt.
It actually started with North Korea because me and Alex were quite fascinated with it.We just arranged to go, not for a video, but just for tourism.
Yeah, just to like sympathize with the North Koreans.Help them out in any way we can.Yeah, help.Just Kim.
Just to help out Kim.Not the people.Not even his sexy sister.
I mean, we didn't know about that at the time.Yeah, to be fair, she only got big on the news like with the Seoul Olympics.
And when Kim had that shit with his ankle or whatever, and he was like, people were saying he was like in a coma.And they were like, oh, well, if he dies, who's going to be the next person?Bam, super sexy high-daisy lady.
And she's going to be a menace, dude.She's going to be the one to put her finger on the button.At least she's hot, though.
Would they let a woman be leader?
Yeah, it's the dynasty, man.
I hope they're progressive of them.It's a progressive country.Yeah, I feel like they're not... I don't think they seem that sexist.They're more just crazy about the dynasty and the bloodline, so it doesn't really matter if you're a chick.
I'd let her nuke me.Were you world travelers before North Korea?No. You weren't world travelers before North Korea?I mean you might be but I wasn't.
So your first time leaving Australia was to visit North Korea.That's where I'm starting.How did that look like on your record?
Pretty dodgy well after that like getting into some countries like America we get interviewed now where they're just like why the fuck did you go to North Korea what were you doing there?I was for a bit of fun just having a crack.
Yeah well that's what we tell them and they're just like why? What do you mean?It's interesting.It's like they're astonished you would want to visit there.
Yeah.I just can't think of the reason it has been legit.
But I like it.They probably think about it through an American perspective, because we're not allowed there.Yeah.No, we're not.No.
You're not allowed, period?No.Americans got banned by the American government.Yeah.So will they let you in, or will you not be allowed back?
We can't go.North Korea won't let Americans in.America won't let Americans in.Yeah. Once I walk across the DMZ... You can probably defect.I'll be the first North Korean YouTuber.
That's a great idea.There are some.Really?Yeah, but they're Malaysian.There's a Malaysian guy that films there, and I think he uploads the footage when he comes back.
And then we steal his stuff, and that's the Boi Boi Channel.Yep.
So what was the inspiration behind the name Boi Boi?How did you come up with the name?
It's a pretty convoluted story.
I'm all about it.We've got plenty to tell.
I'm going to let you into it.It's a bit rambly.So his estranged father.That's a good way to put it.His estranged father has a nickname Iggy, which he hates because he doesn't like his dad.So we would, as good friends, we'd always call him Iggy.
And so, that's such a long story.It's not going to pay off.I thought you were joking.I thought the whole story was... No, no, this is real.You're a boy.No, no, this is actually... I didn't realise it was actually a story.
Yeah, and then he was just Iggy for ages just to bully him.And then because we bullied him so much, he wasn't very keen on hanging out with us.And every time he didn't want to hang out with us, we'd call him Rude Boy.And it'd be like Iggy Rude Boy.
And then it'd be like the Rihanna song, like Iggy Rude Boy Boy.
There's a lot of insecurity on this side is what happened.Insecurity?I'm a bully.Bullies are the confident ones.
The confident ones were better than everyone.And then it just got shortened to Boy Boy and that was his nickname for a while.
And then when we filmed So when we went to North Korea, we filmed that, and we didn't even really know what we were going to do with it.
We just had some footage.We weren't planning to have a YouTube channel.I don't know why it was called Boy Boy.
And then we just needed a name, and then we were just like, Boy Boy's funny.It's two boys together.You call me Boy Boy.It was actually a massive mistake, though, because everyone thinks it's porn.It's gay.
Oh yeah, we do online entertainment.Oh yeah?What's your channel?Oh, we're boy-boy?Boy-boy.Oh, like boy-on-boy?That's what we get, yeah.
Facebook literally categorizes us as you see, like, suggested pages.And the suggested pages are like, boy-on-boy love.Doesn't help that you keep making gay references.
Yeah, that we're actually gay doesn't help, yeah.But it's... I think it was a great idea, like, inadvertently, because Like, most of our audience is gay and they're all very, very dedicated to the channel.So, like, I think it helps a lot.
Although it counts as queerbait, right?That's kind of bad.Pretending to be gay in order to make money.We're not pretending.
We're not pretending.We're all little gay.
It was embracing the lifestyle, embracing the community.I feel like the more straight people who pretend to be gay, eventually it'll remove all stigma.It's true.
It's true.How can you commit a hate crime when you don't know which one is being ironic?Exactly.
There's actually one still on your hat. What?There's still one on your hat, actually.Is there a label on there?
No, there's still a label on there.You had that label on throughout all of paper, right?There's been ants crawling everywhere.
Yeah, and now every time a mosquito touches me, I think.They're like, we should try to find one on camera, but they're like, they're like this big.
what was the process like to even get in there as an australian really easy like not even joking like that's not a bit it was so easy um i think it's because you're
Essentially on a government tour like that.They're taking around everywhere.So they don't really need to worry about you disappearing and doing something dodgy They're hand-holding you.Yeah, it was very handheld.
Yeah, you had someone with you at all times all times Yeah, so we just basically you pay the tour company.It's it's it was kind of pricey at the time.We thought it was pricey I think 2000 for a week or something.
No, I think now I think that's fine.But at the time when we had no money, I had no money.That was quite a bit.
I mean, a trip to North Korea, full guided tour for a week.
You have to arrive in China yourself.And then the trip is just from the Chinese border.They take you.And what?Like a bus?A train.
So you all meet up on the border at Dandong. And then from Dandong, it's really cool.You're there in this, you know, crazy Chinese city filled with rubbish, light pollution everywhere.
And then across the river, you can just see it's like, it's completely dark.And we were really lucky.It was a really misty day when we were there.So the bridge was actually just kind of fading into into mist.It goes over a river.
It's some silent hill shit.Yeah.And then as soon as you get across, it was it was really interesting because it's like,
completely, completely different to any other country.I mean it was quite beautiful to be fair, like the countryside was just so pristine and like, compared to China.
So what, you were just going through it like rolling green fields?
Lots of rice, lots of corn. and rolling hills into rivers and it was nice because there was just all the rivers had just I think it was like a hangout spot for a lot of people so there were always kids, every river filled with kids like swimming.
It was quite nice but I mean no cars as well, literally no cars the whole time whenever there was a street it was usually dirt, someone riding a bike.So it's all environmentally friendly as well.What about horses?I didn't know if we saw any horses.
Did we?I don't remember.Probably no.Yeah, yeah.A lot of old Soviet stuff as well, which was cool.Like all the kind of things just looked like Soviet vehicles.
The one thing that was like quite freaky, because like we kept talking about how kind of nice things were. But the one proper freaky thing was their relationship with the leaders.
It was so weird, I remember we went to this mausoleum where you've got the grandad and the dad and Kim Jong-un all together.Oh no, not all together, one of them is still alive.All in balms.Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il.
It's so freaky because they take you through this travelator for hours just blaring the North Korean anthem and you have to stand there really silently.
They told us we had to get in 4x4 formations, so we stood in a grid, and the grid was exactly the right size to get on this Travelator.The Travelator just took us down for like an hour.Slower than walking pace.
Slower than walking, with paintings on the side, just blaring North Korean music into our faces.
And then the Travelator goes through different rooms like one of them has little brushes on the floor to like clean your feet the other one like going to this little room and it like blows all the dust off you and like makes you nice and clean.
Then you finally get into like one of the mausoleums let's say it's Kim Il-sung is there and he's there in glass and they've like embalmed him and he's surrounded by soldiers that are guarding him but like all the soldiers are crying.
Yeah, I was going to ask about that, the whole forced crying thing. Does it feel like they're acting or some of them genuinely?I reckon it's so ingrained in this culture.I think it's genuine.
I think it's because imagine like you view someone as a god or like your father.That's how much they're ingrained and how much they're brainwashed to love them.And then that person's died.
you know, a family member's died and then you just have to stand there and stare at their body all day.It's kind of a fucked up job.
Yeah, they don't sound like effective guides if you're sitting there with tears in your eyes.
Yeah, I've actually stolen the body of Kim Il Sung while they were like out there wiping their eyes.You start bullying them as well.
What do you think would happen if you if you did that if you if you if you point out his body Oh, yeah, stupid motherfucker.I think even if you pointed at him, yeah, even if you went like that You're not allowed to point cuz you do this
We got in trouble.We got in trouble because I think all the tour guides had badges with their faces.And I think I wanted to buy one.So I was like, where do I buy that?And she like slapped my hand away.And she was like, do not point.
She went like blocking the point.
Do not point.So I was like, where do I buy that?
No, this.How much nicer is this?
This is pretty good.It's like you're presenting something.This is very aggressive and accusatory.
It really is.So did you feel... like under threat?
Did you feel like you had to behave yourself like school boys kind of?Yeah, we felt like we had to behave ourselves but we never felt, it never felt dangerous like just because like the rules were pretty clear but it was uncomfortable.
I got a bit uncomfortable at the end because I think I was like because we felt comfortable in the beginning with that they seemed more relaxed than we thought they would.I was doing things that I wasn't meant to do like they were saying
The rule is you don't take photos of any of the military stuff.So after a while, I was like, well, I want to take photos of military stuff.I was going to say, surely you started breaking the rule.Yeah, so we started taking photos of military stuff.
And then one time, I don't think I was taking photos, but they had seen me take photos before.She thought I was taking photos, so she called me over.
And then I sat down with all the guys, and they were going through all my footage and making me delete things. And then I actually got a little bit upset because they were making me delete nice photos.And then they actually stopped.
They were like, oh, no, no, you don't have to delete them.
What do you mean to say that you started crying?
I started crying a little bit.I actually had a little tear in my eye because they were making me delete photos.
And it worked so well.Immediately, as soon as you had a little tear, they were like, oh, so sorry.I think, yeah. It's probably because tears for them are reserved for the leader, for the death of a glorious leader.
You're like, this guy really loves her country.This guy really loves her, you know.I do.But then after that I was a bit paranoid because then they were watching me a bit more.And I was just like, at the end, I was kind of like, oh, like a cuddle.
Where did you guys stay?A hotel?
yeah yeah it's like uh there's like one hotel in the city for foreigners no you worried it was bugged oh we did this funny thing um because like you kind of have this assumption that it's bugged so when we were out we'd kind of like whisper to each other like okay tonight when we get back we're just going to speak in gibberish to each other like for hours
And so we would get back and we just, we just, yeah, we just, we just literally just go back on.We just had the whole night doing that.And then we imagined some like North Korean translator, like maybe they would.
feel like you weren't who you said you were because of the temperature.
Or maybe that's actually like food for the country.
Yeah, well we actually had it because I got a little bit, a little bit paranoid.I remember that they, to get up in the morning, we got up quite early for the tours, like 6am, and we didn't have alarms.
They did like wake-up calls, so the phone would ring.I remember one morning the phone rang and this was after I'd I started to become a bit paranoid and I picked up the phone at 6am and there was just a man on the phone and he goes, your time is up.
And I was just like, what?And then I just kind of freaked out, total accident.And then it turns out everyone else who got the same call, your time is up.Meaning that it was time to get up. And I was just like, what the fuck, your time is up.
It was just a mistranslation.
So he called you, or you were supposed to call someone and he was already there.No, he called.That's what I was imagining.He's like waiting for you to wake up.No, no, the phone rang at 6am to wake us up and I picked it up and he said,
So a day looked like getting up early, then seeing the tour guide, and then they show you around, and then they bring you back to the hotel.
You're not allowed to do any sort of... Also, we paid a little bit extra.It's like a group tour for five days, and we stayed for another two days just on a private tour.And that was a bit nice.
I mean, we're still with the tour guide, but we kind of choose where to go.
It was funny, that was just like... oh you can do a walking tour where you can just walk around and see the city and that walking tour was Mini Alexa walking with two guys on either side of us.Like can we go into that shop and he's like no.
We walked up the street we got to the end he's like okay it's time to go back and this was like brand new street with all the new buildings that they were proud of.Does it just feel like kind of a veneer over everything that the stores feel real?
I think it was real, it was more that just like they only want to show us like the best parts of the country.
It's like they don't want to show you the slums, you know, they want to show you the parts in North Korea where people are starving.
What was funny though, because we passed through areas which were slums on the train, because you can't really hide that, and they were so embarrassed by that, but we'd just been in China where everything looked much shitter and it was so weird to hear them be like, no, no, don't film this.
It's like, there's nothing wrong with this.
They made him delete a photo of a kid, he was like playing in the water and he didn't have any shoes on.
Yeah, no, no, he doesn't have shoes.He looks poor, like you gotta get rid of that.
But he's in the water!I was like, this is what kids would play like.
Yeah, I think they're just like... What if they think like rich people wear their shoes in the water because they can afford another pair?
I think it's just this really sad kind of situation because they have to, they kind of got this idea that they're the greatest place in the world.
Yeah, they need to keep the image.
Yeah, and it's just like they have to go to real extremes to hide the fact that they're Not the utopia.
Was it any different from like you said, Korean or Chinese food?The food was great because obviously they want to show us that this is, you know, a great country.You mean great, you mean bad?Great.Yeah.
Oh, it was, there was, there was some bad food. No, no, I loved like there was the Korean food was really nice.But oftentimes they wanted to like please us tourists and they were just kicking up french fries.American food.
American food, burgers.But then when we had Korean food, it was amazing.There was so much food.
So much.So the tour guides showing you around, are they from the government?Are they their own?So they're like fully in the know.
Yeah, usually I think the way it works, the tour guides are like
you do like kids of diplomats and everything like people who want to get like a good job and like want to practice their English and stuff and want to get like a big diplomatic position they kind of do the rounds as team guides and that's like your graduation into the big leagues.
They were also knowledgeable as well.It was ridiculous like they knew all the history of our country of Australia and the relations with North Korea and America's involvements in all the wars over the years and like Yeah, it was insane.
But just like general knowledge of the Western world, they totally didn't see that?
No, I would say they thought they did, but they had very, for example, like when it came to technology, it was a great example when we went to this kind of museum of all the gifts that Kim Jong-un has meant to receive from leaders all around the world.
And one of the gifts they showed us was from the South Korean leader.No, it wasn't the South Korean leader, it was the CEO of Samsung.CEO of Samsung.And they walk up to this cabinet and they were like, Here are all the gifts from the CEO of Samsung.
It was like showing us the newest Samsung technology.
And it was all Apple products.
But it was all Macintosh from like the 90s.From the 90s, and everyone was trying so hard not to laugh.It was horrible.
Yeah, you don't want to get in trouble, and you're just standing there, like, really silently while they're... You give them the information, now they gotta, like, off them, like, you know too much.
It's safe to say you can't play Fortnite in North Korea. Definitely not.
Yeah, too many bot lobbies.
I felt like Kim Jong-un is some kind of gamer or some super massive shut-in who's somehow gotten into a parallel universe where he's the king of the world.Yeah.
Because some of the stuff he does... In this same GIF museum, you've got this one portrait of him. And it's here, like they're explaining it to you, like, this is our dear leader in a suit of armor, riding a tiger, smoking a cigarette.
Yeah, it's just his portrait is the most absurd thing I've ever seen.
And it's him on a tiger and they think that that's a real thing.And they just say that like, not like a joke.You're meant to look at this and be like, oh, yes.
Smoking a cigarette is like the best touch as well.He looks fucking badass.He looks cool as fuck.It looks like what you would do if you were making an avatar at a game, except he would manage to do it.
Like a fantasy image of what the most masculine thing is.Yeah, it's literally that.
Did he look slimmer in the game?He was pretty true to life.
I think they're pretty body positive.
It's probably because they consider a bit of chubbiness a bit of wealth as well.So you said that this trip was what? Yeah, pretty much.
We turned that trip into a documentary, essentially, about North Korea.Yeah, pretty much.It was pretty funny.I think, again, the technology difference is a bit sad.
they went through Alex's camera because he was taking pictures of military stuff, they'd see thumbnails of videos which would just start him filming the ground and something else and they wouldn't know that it was a video and they'd just be like, oh this man loves pictures of the ground.
This fucking moron is taking photos, this stupid Australian is taking photos of the ground, what an idiot.
What's so impressive about the ground, I don't understand.
Yeah, even though they make you delete, can't you just go back home and like undelete it anyways?
Yeah, it's not really an issue.And also they kept being like, oh, you know, we'll let you keep this once you get to the border, they're not as nice as us.Then you get to the border and no one gives a shit at all.
Like someone comes into the thing, they're just laughing, let you through.
What does the border look like?Is there like a gate coming in?Because I've only seen photos of like the DMZ.
You would have gone through the northern border, right?With China.
And it wasn't a gate.It was kind of interesting to see that there At the train station in Dandong, there was a bit of kind of like almost free-flowing exchange.There were North Koreans getting on, usually taking appliances, like fridges and stuff.
And there, actually in Dandong, we saw people that looked like kind of like, not poor North Koreans, but the level of the guy, diplomats walking around.
We went to Russia straight after, in like Vladivostok, which is also like across the border, and there were North Koreans around there as well. That was interesting.
I think it's strictly controlled who goes in and out, but there are a lot of them going in and out.
So was North Korea the craziest place you've traveled to?No, I think it was L.A.
That's something else.I don't know what the craziest place is.I might say Irkutsk in Russia. Oh, yeah.Did you continue traveling with the intention of making video documentaries about them or just started getting curious about the world?
Barely.I don't know.We had the North Korea thing in mind.Then after a while, we're just like, it's kind of just fun just to travel.Yeah.
And then I think we just continued.So then after that, we did the Trans-Siberian all across Russia.That was a long journey, right?
That was so long.I lost in a month.
Oh well we did, the trip was 30 days but 8 days continuous on the train and I lost 7 kilos because we just did not, I remember the first time we got on the train from Vladivostok
We got on, we didn't have any roubles, and we just had nowhere to buy food, so we just didn't eat for two days, until the train fucking stopped.
The nice thing is, you'd have a Russian family get on, and they'd bring out a big roast chicken and all this other stuff, and they'd usually feed you, which is nice.
That would drive me crazy, even to eat these on a train, I mean.
Yeah, it wasn't great.People romanticize these train journeys, it's very boring.
Especially the Russian countryside, it is the same tree over and over and over and over.
That's the thing, there's certain stretches of it where there's no city for a day.So you're just looking at trees constantly.
Was it worth it to get to the destination?Was that interesting at least?
That was Moscow.The train was actually kind of fun.People were drinking a lot.It's fun trying to work out what they're trying to tell you.I was just so fucked at the end of it.Delirious and skinny.But Siberia was worse because every
I think like every second dude we saw there had a black eye.Yeah.Yeah.Quite a violent place.
They were just punching each other in the head.
Besides drink and beat the shit out of each other.
Probably a good way to keep warm.You know how warm your eye gets when you get punched?Or your arms.
Yeah, your arms too.You're boxing though.
Yeah, yeah.You've both boxed.Obviously, you were in this year's Creator Clash, which is crazy.Now you're about to box in December.
Yeah, yeah.I feel like I've gotten a bit too much confidence seeing how he went.Yeah.And I realize we're not actually the same person.But it's not just boxing, is it?Yeah, it's chest boxing.
This is for Ludwig's, right?Yeah.
Ludwig's chest boxing event in December.Yeah, it's... putting my money on the chest.I hope I'm like chest chest or like chest.We only punch each other in the chest.
It's like two minutes of chess, two minutes of boxing, two minutes of chess, two minutes of boxing.It keeps going until either someone gets knocked out or there's a checkmate.
We've been hanging out the last few days on Kangaroo Island, which we'll talk about later.You've been grinding chess the whole time, so if you can get it in, you're playing.Pretty good.
Who's your opponent?Are you allowed to say who your opponent is?
Yeah, it's Myth.Fortnite player.Famous Fortnite player.
Famous Fortnite Myth. He's gotten quite beefy in the last couple of years.
Yeah, he's enjoying it.He's a really nice guy.It's really going to suck getting knocked out by him.You're going to have to make him look bad.
You could checkmate him.You could four move checkmate him.
Yeah, that's the plan.That's the plan.I feel like having big muscles slows you down, at least in chess.At least in chess, yeah.You're a lot more nimble.
You're a lot taller too.I hung out with Mith at the end of last year and he did strike me as quite small. He's small but he's probably going to make up for it with his giant muscles.
When we first got confirmed for the event he was like 8 kilograms heavier than me.
That's impressive considering you're much taller.
Yeah, I'm just a very slim weak boy.But he said he's going to come down in weight. And I don't know, I don't know what Fortnite players are like.I don't know, I hope they're true to their word.Just tell them to take the train.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.Take a trip to Russia.
You sort of masqueraded as Alex's coach for the Korea Clash, right?Yeah, yeah.He was my coach.
So you got him in fighting condition so you could get yourself? And now I'm his coach for this.You guys should have some footage of your backyard training.I don't know how much you want to go into your training.
Yeah, that's fine.Yeah.I mean, as long as it's you don't reveal my secret move, you know, that one.Just blow that as well.
Have you reconsidered it? Whoa.It was funny.
When I was sparring with Alexa the other day, there is actually something I did a sick move do, which is like, if you're just boxing and you kick the guy, you drop your hands and then just look off in the distance.I just even slowly do that.It works.
That was the only time I managed to hit Alex in the head, dude.The whole time was when I stopped and went like this.And then he just popped me in the head.I was like, whoa.But I reckon I'm back.I reckon the boxing match is still kind of, like, mean.
Dude, it's really risky to take your eyes off your opponent.Because what if he just doesn't give a fuck what you're looking at?And he's just in the zone.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I won't do it.I won't do it.
They can't see you winking.Was that a wink?That was more of a twitch, like a seizure.Do you know how many people are watching?
He does a good boxing ad.
Do you know how big the Ludwig event is in terms of audience?I think live they said it was 5,000.I think the Creator Clash was 10,000.
And then because the Ludwig one's going to be live streamed for free on YouTube, it could potentially be 200,000, 300,000 people watching live.It's going to be pretty insane.And I think you're first as well.
You were ringside for the Creator Clash obviously, so you kind of know what that atmosphere feels like.Not quite in the ring.
probably shouldn't be revealing this because this is gonna make me feel a lot better but like watching creator clash gave me PTSD like see the noise of like someone getting crunched like cracked in the face it just it repeated on me for days like what was the worst fight to watch his one it was well you just dude i felt so bad for eye worms out man boy hey you had to come
He did.He had to come.He did.Why happy birthday on that day?It was his birthday too.It was his birthday.Happy birthday, I would shout.
What was it like for you when you, because, you know, we've all seen the fight, you obviously hit him and then realize, oh, I've just hurt him like quite badly and you sort of see you hesitate.
Well, I think I thought that when I've done sparring, you know, in Australia, it was, I think that, I just want to stop it immediately when it looks like someone's losing.But in Florida, things must be different.
So they didn't do the standing eight count, which is normal.They would just finish him.
If someone's legs are weak in Australian boxing, they do that.And then they do the count.They take their gloves.They touch them together.They go, are you good to fight?They go, yes or no.
But they don't do that in Florida.In Florida, it's when they're on the ground.Yeah.And he literally had a stumble like this.He looked like he was drunk.And I was just like, I have to hit a drunk man. That's what I felt like.
At that point, it's almost like you want to put him out of his misery.You want to just punch him until the fight's done.It's over.You don't have to punch him anymore.
Well, that's what I felt after a while when I realized that the ref wasn't going to stop.I was just like, well... I gotta punch this guy.Which I guess that's what boxing is.It really is what boxing is.People want to see a show.Yeah, exactly.
You can't feel like too bad because you know what he signed up for.Yeah.Like everyone knows who they sign up for.You're signing up to get punched in the face.Yeah.Many times.Or in the labyrinth.Many times.
What was the worst injury in the credit flash?Were there any broken nose injuries?
Yeah, Ryan McGee broke his nose.And I think the worst I've had was Matt Watson too.He still fought.He still fought back.He still goes, yeah, weird eyes. I put five grand in Matt Watson.Really?No you did not.I did.
Why?Because I believed in him.
Did you tell him that?No.Whatever you do, you gotta put five grand on me, I reckon.Yep.Is this like insider knowledge?
Well I mean it seems like there's a recurring thing here.It is a good plan because If you win, if you're right, you get more money.And then if you're wrong, Alexa wins.Yeah, it's everything you wanted.It's true, it's true.
Okay, I believed in you the whole time.Son of a bitch.So when you're training for the chess boxing, I assume you're doing like, what, two minutes and then you're playing chess as well?
just like take the gloves off yeah unfortunately it's so funny trying to play with the gloves yeah knocking all the pieces over oh yeah where do they put the board in the ring yeah it's on like a table and then they take the table out so what what prevents you from just not moving if you're thinking really it's a pretty good panel move like if if you're just not moving and just staring the person in the eyes i think that there's a chance
based on the research on how Myth plays chess.Myth might just do that.Myth might just stare at you for two minutes, waiting, and then just come at you with a lot of energy.So you don't have to, there's no chess clock?
There's a clock, but you've got eight minutes.So you can potentially just save it all for the boxing?
Explain to us how this works with the chess and boxing.
So it's two minutes of chess, so there's a timer, you play for two minutes, and then if no one has checkmated the other person in that two minutes, you do a minute and a half of boxing.
No one gets knocked out, you go back to two minutes of chess, and you repeat until it's that eight minutes of chess.Very cerebral.I guess the good news is that you get a big rest.
Because what's the rest time? It's like 30 seconds?
Oh, in a minute.In this one, you get 30 seconds plus the two minutes.That's a lot.Right.So you have 30 seconds to recuperate.Yeah.Or like while they're setting up the table as well.
I thought it was just immediate, like as soon as the bell goes, you're playing chess.Yeah.
What happens if someone bumps into the board?
No, they moved out of the way. Wow, that's actually going to be really interesting to burn.I can't wait to watch it.And it is really fun as well, because obviously you're getting punched in the head.The chess gets comically worse.
People are just making moves where you're screaming at the screen, being like, why did you do that, you fucking idiot?
The chess players wear sound-cancelling headphones, so you can't hear anyone coaching you.
Yeah, going like, climb to A3 or whatever.
That's why I'm crazy, because... You'll be going from the atmosphere of the arena to just another... You'll be hearing your pulse, bro.
So loud.My plan is to punch Myth in the ears a lot.So that even when he puts these things on, he'll still be like he's getting hurt.
He'll be like, he's still grabbing my ears.
He's still grabbing my ear. Just pull with Tyson, dude.Just play it on.
Then you can't put the headphones on.Done.He probably thought he was doing chess boxing.That's why.That's where the misunderstanding happened.So you must feel like you've gotten significantly better at chess over the last couple months.Yeah.Yeah.
Better at chess.Barely better at boxing.But I feel like... Again, if there's nothing stopping Myth from just staring me down in the chess match, there's nothing stopping me from just running away from him.Same strategy.
That's so good, he waits while you run around and nothing gets done the entire match.There's no chess and there's no boxing. It just climbs out of the air.That would be the great counterplay.
If he does try to just time you out, just not do a move, then just run around.
How would they decide the winner in that case?
I think I'd win because his time would run out.
Whoever has the lowest time, the most hits, I guess.It's going to be very, very interesting to see how the judges fucking score this.
Yeah, I think I'm just going to win.I think most of the time, I think it's not going to be knockout from boxing.I think it will be a checkmate.I feel like it'll be like that too.Yeah, there weren't any knockouts in the credit clash.No.
There were stoppages.There were some where it's like... There were a lot of knockdowns, but not a lot of like, no it was cold KO.Yeah. Yeah, which is good.
That is probably quite hard to actually KO someone as an amateur.Well, I think that the fact that we had the 16-ounce gloves on, if we didn't have those, there for sure would have been some knockouts.
What, are you talking like bare knuckles?
No, no, like lighter gloves.So 10-ounce gloves, so just less padding.Hurts your hands more, but hurts your head more as well.
Great.Isn't bare knuckle literally like a safer way to box?Well, because you're not going to... punch, you can't punch as hard and you can break your hand.
Yeah, so so people, old timey boxing, you know, when you're doing like that, and people look at those pictures and like, it's so ridiculous.Why the fuck do people like look like this?
It's it was because they were bare knuckle box, but they wouldn't hit each other in the head because it would break your fucking ass.It was all chest, chest and liver.It was like chest in the body.
Maybe they would try like one or two headshots, but it wouldn't be a
They'd go for the nose.I think in the 1800s, I'm pretty sure it was like just illegal to go for the head.
Yeah, yeah.You're talking about like the official.
Like the official, like actual.Not like Josh Bronson in Street Fights.No, no.Not like Kimbo Slice or anything.
Yeah, that's insane.Or Kimbo Slice, this guy.
Yeah, this guy with the big beard.
I heard it in boxing sometimes and sparring where I've like, I've done a punch and my sparring partner is like, turned down and I punched him like directly here.Right in the cranium.
It fucking hurts your head so much where you're just like, I cannot box anymore.
You gotta go for here, or for here.Yeah, the noise hurts so much.Or for the chin, dude.If you can just get him on the chin, push the right button, it's... It's over.
The amount of times this guy's hit me on the chin.
You need to be quite careful about how you're holding your jaw though, because if you have your mouth hanging open and you get hit in the jaw, you'll break that jaw.
Yeah, pop it right out.Goodbye mandible.But it's not like the punch to the jaw that will knock you out.It's because you're hitting there, and the head turns, and your brain bounces off the inside of your skull, and it resets.Yeah.Yeah. Great spot.
Would you be keen to fight again?
I don't know.I think if I find the right opponent. I would do it again.But it depends.It'll have to be someone a bit, you know, Odd1sOut was quite a bit shorter than me.So someone maybe similar height.
Someone even taller.Like them?Yeah, there's a couple of guys down there.
Look at that one.Get some sparring in after this.That would be great.They look a bit lazy though.What about when the fight immediately after it ended, what did you say to yourself?I said, I'm never doing that again.
because there was a moment when like when I landed the big I think it was a big straight right and just straight into his nose and I felt like his girlfriend said his nose was broken he said it wasn't I don't know but I felt a crack that like reverberated through my whole arm and I was just like
It's just like feeling the contours of someone's face as well.When you hit them that hard, you can just feel it.
I was just like, that's, yeah, you feel the cartilage move and break and be born.
I was actually annoyed that he wasn't fucking because whenever I spot people would put their hands up.Yeah.The first job I landed, hit him in the face and I was actually like, what the fuck is this?
I feel like I noticed quite a lot in boxing, it's like, you know, you're supposed to hold your hands up, but people, I mean, obviously it's very tiring, right?
The further the fight goes on, I think people do tend to have their hands down, but like, yeah, if you're not holding them up at the start, you're just asking for it.
Well, I noticed that a lot in karate class.The majority of the fights were, like, down and just, like, haymaking.
Yeah.I feel like the only fight that I saw where the gloves were up consistently was Minx and
Some of them though, they got pretty lazy at the end without just taking turns.Drinks, wasn't minks drinks?I mean, that's, I don't know if that's leaked information, but the Irish handed it to them.
Just gets so numb.That's why she was smiling.She's like, I can't feel fucking anything.
Cause yeah, you were, I mean, you got to see your fight from an angle that no one else did.You look at each other in the eyes.What was the energy like? It's hard to explain.I guess you kind of just go a bit... I mean, I didn't feel much.
It was kind of just like when I was in the zone of boxing, I was kind of just like a bit... almost like a bit quiet and calm.I was just like, it's a bit like a trans zombie moment.
It's like my one purpose here is to fucking smash this man in the face.And it was only once I landed the big hit that it was kind of like, I was kind of like, I achieved that goal.So then I calmed down a little bit.
So before that, I didn't actually feel that much, even walking out, usually in front of 10,000 people, I'd be freaking out a bit, but I was just kind of like, I actually enjoyed the dance, Ian.
You just look terrified.Yeah, I'm terrified.I'm just like, I hope I don't have to fight you.
Well, the dance, Ian, I actually found more fun than the fight.
Yeah, you had a great entrance.Yeah, yeah.No, but you were saying, what happened after the fight?
Like, as soon as it ended?As soon as it ended, yeah, I was kind of like in that trance mode, like headspace.Then I was kind of like, I heard the crowd and suddenly got a bit nervous.And I was in front of all these people.
I was like, whoa, there's a lot of people out here.How did I get here?I assume feeling of relief, perhaps.Relief, yeah.Relief and kind of just like weird emotions.And also, you've just got so much adrenaline.
It's weird to just not feel the most awake you've ever felt.
I mean, you're literally in fight or flight.And you can only choose flight.
You could choose flight. It's so interesting.
What about the energy once you got off the stage and went back to the... That was lovely.It was so nice because obviously I won the fight, so it was so positive and nice to me.And then celebrating with everyone else was awesome.
It made me really proud of the coach as well.Putting everything I taught him into practice.I just wonder how it would be for someone losing a fight, knowing you trained so hard.
Maybe you'll find that out next year.
Maybe I'll lose next year and then we'll see.But it's, it'd be so strange because you train so hard and then it's just all done in like five minutes.And then everyone that watches obviously sees you as the weaker loser as well.
It's such a, did you speak to other ones out about that at all?
We went to dinner like pretty soon after, like a couple of days after the fight.
Yeah, Hammond is all swollen and red, he's got cast on his nose.
Alex somehow looked better than War of Ironies.Yeah, it's that energy, that murderous energy, it's great.He was sort of like, obviously there was no...
There wasn't any beef, but I think he did express that he kind of wanted to do it again, not with me, but to prove to everyone that he had been training hard.It really wasn't, it didn't seem like a fair match.No, I don't think so.
But I mean, you know.But it's hard because we were the same weight as well and we had the same amount of training.So it's like in boxing, that's considered that.
Things can happen.You spar someone one day and you go well.And then like, you know, the next week you spar them.
It is a tie set, man.You know, anything can really happen in the ring.
I mean, from a viewer perspective and from what I was picking up on the internet in general, everyone respected the hell out of anyone.It's just such a crazy thing to have done.And even Matt, who got baited out.
I mean, I did see some people shitting their pants.
It was kind of ridiculous.
I was quite worried for Alex, well mainly for selfish reasons, because I had come there with him and I wanted to party and I was like, fuck if he goes to the hospital, I'm going to have to go with him and we won't be able to do anything and he was completely fine.
But then Matt, who arguably had the most long-term effects from it, he was out partying that night as well.It was only until he got home at like 3am that he was like, oh fuck, I should probably go to the hospital.
They told us not to do that if you have any signs of concussion and Matt definitely had signs of concussion because when I saw him at the party, he was like peaking.I just thought he had taken drugs, but no, he was concussed.Yeah.
His fucking pupils were like massive. All this music's gotten a lot better.
Yeah.It was all worth it.It was good too, man.Another banger.
Yeah.All right.Well, good luck with it.
We'll be watching eagerly.We'll be placing bets.Yeah.5,000 on me, please.Okay.All right.
Should we talk about those guys?Oh yeah.
Kangaroos and Trip maybe?We are sitting in front of some kangaroos.So we better get into where we went recently.As I said earlier, we ventured over to Kangaroo Island.Which if you don't know... It's the third biggest island in all of Australia.
It's just off the coast of Adelaide, which is, you know, none of us live there.
Nope, it's in South Australia.Deceptively enough, we've seen more kangaroos today just like in Melbourne than we have People love Kangaroo Island for the way they were there.What do you mean?
We're in Kangaroo Island right now.
Oh yeah, sorry.As we could have been.
Lovely, Kangaroo Island.He spoils it.But yeah, we went over to Kangaroo Island to attempt to create a video with our friends.And also enlisted the help of the Raka Raka twins, Danny and Michael.And it was an interesting experience.It was...
There were some ups and downs on the trip, for sure.We took the ferry over, we had a van and a ute.And, you know, accommodation there.We enlisted the help of some local boys.Yep, three local boys.Yep, who were characters for sure.
They were absolutely interesting boys.Lovely characters.Lovely in their own way.Lovely in their own way.I don't know.
Little loose, maybe they might say.
Yeah.Yeah.All the stories they told us about whatever they got up to when they were bored was just like... Yeah, well, they were like... Hyper violence.
Yeah.They were like, oh, yeah, we had to be removed from like the roof of this bar in Adelaide.It was like, what do you mean?Like, oh, yeah, we climbed up a gutter.And then like, we thought it would be funny to just go on top of the roof of this bar.
And then the cops had to come and take him down. And then they did it again the next week.They were on the news for it.
It was so funny.There was just a clip of them being interviewed in like tradie high-vis vests and black sunnies.It was like, yeah, we clumbed on the roof, thought it was funny.
They were showing us this at the pub and they were just so proud.They showed us this fucked up video where they were like, they were meant to be going to pre-drinks on party.
So the three of them were just at home drinking, like getting ready to go out. And then like one thing led to another and ended up just smashing up one of their cars like completely like unrecognized.Just jumping on top of it.
From the roof of the house onto the roof of the car.
Chairs through the windscreen.And we asked them why did they do that?I was just like, oh, we don't know.We were just high.All right.But like I've been high and I've never done that.So I'm like, what's the difference here?
Very, very interesting.Very, very, very much a culture shock.Yeah.
That was the day before we started filming with them.And as soon as I saw that video I was like, fuck. What are we doing?What have we gotten into?
Because we were under the impression that they knew Danny, that they knew Danny Racket, because Danny had organized this before.He had put out an Instagram story.
If there's any locals on Kangaroo Island that could help us with blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, reach out.And so they reached out.But we were under the impression that they were close friends with Danny.
Danny spoke to them over DMs, didn't know them at all.
And Danny and Michael actually arrived a day later than we thought.So we had a day by ourselves with the boys, who were getting very impatient that we weren't, you know, in charge and making calls and kind of getting on with the video.
He was a little frustrated with us.Thankfully, we sorted things out and got him paid and fixed up. after which their energy immediately changed.And they just said, like, wow, we're going to buy so much ketamine.
The moment the money hit their bank account, they're like, we're getting ketamine tonight.
It was like a beer, beers, beers, beers for everyone.And then, oh, I've sued ketamine.
They were henceforth referred to as the ketamine boys.That's what we will call them from now on, the ketamine boys.I love it.The next morning, they arrived at our place to pick us up at like 10 a.m.And they were on time, which is good.
But one of them just had like,
as a kind of like he had a straight up cut in blood on his eyebrow like on his eyebrow which wasn't there before and then we asked how did that happen and his mate was like oh yeah what did he say he said he like tipped a Tim Tam at him he threw a Tim Tam at him a Tim Tam for those of you who don't know is just the Aussie biscuit it's like a chocolate covered biscuit
We were like, did you throw one?
Did you throw the whole pack?He was like, ah yeah, Tim Tim.He was strangely vague about it, so I think they just... I think they had a punch on each other.I think they punched each other.
I walked into a doorknob, I swear. Credit to them, like even after a night of drinking and railing lines of ketamine, they showed up on time.Danny and Michael had arrived and the video was on.We only had one day to shoot, basically the whole thing.
So when you do see the video, keep in mind that it was all shot in a day and be impressed because it was a lot of good luck.
Every single thing we filmed was best case scenario.We got lucky.
Incredible work for every scene.It all went on after the end of Hitch.So yeah, you guys got to experience a very authentic Misfits trip.
What, unorganized?Unorganized at first and then somehow it magically comes together.I've retripped his likeness.
I watched your videos before and I got the impression that things were a bit wild and you don't really know what's going to happen. And I was like, oh, fuck, you know, what if I die?We almost did.
But the thing is, all the near-death experiences had nothing to do with the video.It was just driving from place to place on the island.I was just like terrified, like skidding through the country roads.
We should probably explain what the concept of the video was.The overall theme was that we were trying to find a legendary Aussie creature called the Yowie, which is basically Australian Bigfoot.Now, I'm from New Zealand.
I never heard of the Yowie until like a month ago when we planned this video.We'll probably pretty much know what a kangaroo is.I was under the impression that most Australians just knew what the Yowie was.It was sort of a popular theme here.
No one fucking knows who the yaoi is.
We're going up to a ton of locals, have you seen the yaoi?They're like, what did you say?What?They're like, you know, it's like big and hairy.They're like, oh, have you checked the pub?Same joke every time.
Same joke every time.So it was a little difficult to get some leads.But yeah, we shot a few scenes.So we wanted to film a scene where we arrived at the island on boat. which is just a lie.
Oh we did, we took the ferry.
We wanted like a small tinny boat on a deserted island, rough seas.We wanted to make it look like Kangaroo Island was this like abandoned place.
Like a deserted, completely deserted island.
It's pretty abandoned, 4,000 people on an island the size of all of Adelaide.But we wanted it to look like wild.So we, the Canadian boys, let us use their boat, drove it to the beach.It was quite choppy conditions, we were a bit nervous.
And there were way too many people in that boat.The fact that the guy driving the boat was just like freaking out the whole time like I don't know if this is going to capsize.
We're taking the boat off the bank of the Ute and he's like going to put it in the water and he's like how many people are coming I'm like oh well me but I'm like oh like six or like six people are gonna go on this boat he's like
I'm definitely losing my dad's boat today.And we're going in and there's these big waves coming in as we're trying to be pushed out and they're crashing in, they're filling up the boat with water.
Everyone gets in and the edge of the boat is maybe like two inches from the waterline.
We're like, maybe we can start bailing out all the water and we just don't have any buckets.
Yeah, they took the buckets out, the minnows in.
Grabs a binoculars like knocks out a lens and starts using the binoculars as like a... You just kind of ruined your own binoculars.
No, they were already broken.I didn't break them for breakfast.Yeah, I thought you were just like... quickly.
So yeah, we just shot this ridiculous scene where like we went out into the water a little bit and we're going over the waves and almost falling out and then sort of curved back around and we're like, there's land.
But to be fair, I was really happy to see land.
The water was freezing.It was cold and like sharks and like it was also the first thing we shot that day and we were all dressed like You too.And our boots were just filled with seawater.
All our clothes were soaked.The rest of the day we just had to spend soaked in seawater.
Yeah, just squelching around the island. But yeah, the scene was a success, I hope.I think it hopefully turned out pretty cinematic.Fun video and I love it as well that it genuinely just started in the morning and then the last scene is at night.
So it's just a true progression of the day.Everything was filmed in order.And did so much in that day.It was an incredible amount.It was dodgy though getting the boat to and from the shore.
We wanted to drive it down to where there were no people so that it looked, you know, authentic.And to do so, we were just in the back of the boat on the trailer and just, the Ketamine boys would drive it.
And the Ketamine boys don't really have a concept of a speed limit.They were just fanging it down the beach.It would have been 80, 90.
They were going 100, dude.
Were they?Probably like 100.
That was terrifying.One little slip and we were already dead.
Sometimes you could feel the trailer start to do a bit of the death wobble.
Yeah, because he kept going to hit seagulls.
there was like six of us in the in the in the little boat going like 100 kilometers an hour down the road down down the sand and like these people walking down the beach and they were just like
slow down like yelling at us like you think we can control yeah we're like we're like we're trying fucking with the throttle of the boat it's very honest there were a couple times where i just thought we could all die yeah yeah i was just like i'm already dead i've got no control there's been a lot of misfits trips where i've had that yeah i thought of like i can't control the situation so i'm just going to i just i'm all right like whatever she's gonna come
I wasn't able to do that. I don't have the mental fortitude. The whole time I was like, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
They're all laughing up the front, too.Yeah, yeah.They would laugh and then just point to Potato Can and try to... Oh, dude, should we talk about it the night before when they came over?
They came over all fucking drunk.Well, they kind of wanted to hijack the video idea because they had this... They had been experimenting with this concept of, yeah, Potato Can and battleships.
Yeah, so they pitched the idea to us.The leader of the Cat Boys goes, all right, hear me out.Two tinnies. It's a small boat.Two potato cannons.It's just a cannon with five potatoes.You saw Matt use one.Yeah, yeah.Battleships.
And we were like, yeah, it's a great idea.It's really funny.And they go, yeah, yeah, no, but listen to me, mate.Listen to me. Two tinnies, two potato cannons, and I counted.I counted how many times he said it that night.
He was there for like an hour and a half.He said it like 18 times.Two tinnies, two potato cannons.
And he told it to me as well.And I was just like, that is a great idea.We'll do it.We'll bring the potato cannons.And he's like, yep, yep, yep.Hit me out. I'm like, does this guy have dementia?
He's in a K-hole, yeah.We've said yes.We've said yes, we're doing it.
But he was like, who do I have to talk to?Who's the head honcho?Who's the creative director right now?I'm like, well, Danny and Michael get here tomorrow, but our main videographer is asleep on the couch.Mitchell, he's right there.
And Mitchell's just there, mouth open, asleep, completely dead on the couch.And then one of them goes, oh, yeah? Should we fuck with him while he's sleeping?"And I was like, no!Absolutely do not do that!What would've happened if you said yes?
I was... I was... I hesitated.I was very curious.
But I don't know.Maybe they would've just run at him with marker, or they would've just like... Throwing a TimTam at him.Yeah, throwing a TimTam at him!
That's very good at entertaining themselves.When you live on Kangaroo Island, you may do it.It's weird to see how everyone drives here, though.Like, you're so close to death at all times.It's like, you can just slow down.
There's three policemen on the island.
We met one of them.Almost threatened one of them.
Very timid policemen, by the way.
That was when we were chasing leads to find the Yowie.We were in a... Was it Penishaw?
Or Kingscourt?Kingscourt.Oh, yeah, Kingscourt.
We were in the town, and we went to the bait shop to find bait for the Yowie.We were asking them what the best bait is.And then they told us, like, oh yeah, just go to the council and ask them if they have any of these.
Well, first they told us that the best bait is kids.
Yeah, the best bait was kids. And then we went to the city council to find a lead.So we walk in and we're talking with like these two ladies from the glass.Yeah, we're here to play.Yeah, we all in adventure outfits.
And then next, this guy, Nick, came with us on the trip.And he goes over.There's this big table with books on it.It's just like books that are free to a good home.So there were like three books.
And he picks up one book that was face down, looks at it and goes, guys.And he starts laughing.He goes, I found a great lead. And then he shows us the book.The book's title was Great League.
And we were just sitting there dying in this fucking council for like a solid two minutes.Perfect coincidence.
We got really lucky that day.We're just checking out the locals.
Went to the police station.The police station, by the way, closes at noon.Nine till twelve.It was nine till twelve.Most of the day. So it was past noon, it was shut.
But when we got there, the one of three cops on the entire island is pulling out of the police station.And so we flagged him down.Danny's there.And he's like, hey, hey, I ain't sorry to bother you.
And then you're like, yeah, we're looking for the alley, or anything about it.And the guy's like, nah, mate, I can't help you.And he's smiling, and he's loving it.And then Danny just Deadpan goes, I'm sick of your fucking lies.I'm sick of your lies.
And the guy's like, still smiling, but his eyes are like... He's starting to drop.Yeah, his face is dropping.
You can see his smile slowly going, turning to confusion.
And then Danny goes, you know what?Get out of the car!Get out of your car!And the guy's like... And it was so awkward, and so we start laughing to break the tension, and he's just like, yeah, okay, goodbye, and then he leaves.
Poor police officer has just been working overtime.He's supposed to finish at 12, he's leaving at 2.
If only Danny did, get out of the car!He probably would have listened.
Yeah, it was very funny.So we interviewed the locals, we got a few leads, and then we had to go and shoot the scene where we kind of finally... Oh, we made yaoi bait, actually, first.Oh, I forgot about that.Horrendous, horrendous scene.
We had to make our own bait, which was pretty, like, improvised.We just had a bunch of ingredients in the fridge.
Was that improvised?It's crazy how we improvise but have to know exactly what you need to catch a yaoi.That's so strange how that works.
What would he have, like, mineral mints, beer, tobacco, dishwashing liquid?
You know, when we started rolling, I was expecting, like, a binging with Babish, like, kind of slow paced, like, yeah, this is what we're going to do and just put a bunch of shit together.As soon as it started, Danny just took over and it was
I couldn't match the energy.I was in shock the entire time.He's trying to open the mince by elbowing it on the counter.And I'm seeing his elbow impact and bend on the countertop.It's like a crunching sound.
This is like three seconds into the start.
It was three seconds into the start.So I was already like, what the fuck is going on?I think I did one thing.I think I put barbecue shapes in it.And that was it.It was all my involvement. There was milk, there was mints, there were a lot of eggs.
A lot of eggs.We took my beer and put it in there.There were eggs on the ceiling.It was everywhere.
It was like out of my hand too.But finally we had the alley vape.
Wait, before that, it's a lot of funny with the context that the house was kind of a mess before, like the last night.And like a bunch of people have spent the entire morning cleaning up the place.
They mopped up the place, they swept the place, it looked immaculate, and everyone was like, oh, I feel so much less anxious now that it's like nice and clean.And we came in, and after that scene, it was like, it was destroyed.
I was just throwing eggs like around.
We were filming all day, so we weren't even in the house.We showed up for like two minutes to film that scene, and then fuck off again.
That was right before we left.It was right before we left.There was... The vape dealers came.Because it's really hard to get a vape on Kangaroo Island, so our crew needed vapes.And so we kind of made poise with the contact, the in-between.
And then, yeah, so these three guys come up with a bunch of vapes.And they walk in and they see this fucking disgusting thing.Like a mincemeat on the ceiling.Destroyed, like, horrible mess.
And then, you know, Chris is making small talk with them, like,
oh yeah yeah don't worry about it we'll clean it up and you know this this this airbnb was you know it's beautiful and and the guy was like oh yeah i know it's beautiful i i know the owners did he say that he said that chris chris was like okay all right yeah it'll be that's getting back to them i feel like everyone in kangaroo island knows each other yeah exactly yeah put the yaoi beat in a tupperware container
beautiful lagoon yeah it was just gorgeous like the sun was going down it's like a lot of the rings yeah it was like flooded planet and uh yeah we experienced a scene where we're like running through the bushes and we hear the yaoi's coming we lay the trap and then the yaoi comes out we won't say who the yaoi is it's a surprise the yaoi comes out you know we're like oh my god there he is
gets the bait and we all rush him.Matt jumps on top of him.We all proceed to run up to him and start beating the shit out of him.Somehow the yaoi with his extreme strength and speed throws us off and we all get catapulted into the air.Quite painful.
Yeah, seriously.I think he broke a rib or something.Yeah, he broke my rib.And he sort of speeds off into the bushes at the speed of light.And we lost our lead on him.He managed to get a shot off with the spear gun though.
Shot him straight in the leg with the spear gun.Thank God you brought that spear gun.Yep.Wasn't intending to shoot you out with the spear gun. Got him right through the leg.Pierced his leg.You hear him cry out and then he disappears.
And then somehow later when we were just having a relaxing pint at the pub, there he was.We were downtrodden.We were at the pub just drowning our sorrows.And I was sad.We were fucked up.Well, yeah, we hunt as a weed.The day's over.
We go home tomorrow.We haven't caught him.And then what do we see?Banging into the door of the pokies machines is the spirit gun.
I thought it was hallucination, I thought, yeah, I was... I did not believe it at all when I saw that.
We open the door, and who turns around with a look of egg on his face?It's the yaoi.The yaoi is so surprised.He's like, here I am trying to have a quiet slap after a stressful day in the swamp.
He's trying to win at the pokies, and these fucking bastards from earlier are coming to call me.So we sit him down and we rock him up a bit. Why are you a pedophile?Why are you touching these kids?I've heard he's been touching kids.
Also, I just realized that we forgot something.There was the cat guy.The cat guy.Should you finish this?We'll finish this story first and then we'll get to the cat guy.
We rough him up, and the Yowie actually we find is quite a well-spoken gentleman, and actually is quite nice.He offers us a round, and we thought, well, he's going to buy us some beers.We can give him a chance to explain himself.
So we go and get a pint with the Yowie. It turns out he's the loosest cunt on the planet.
Oh yeah.So much fun.We got along so well.
Dancing with all the locals in the pub too.That was amazing.The fact that we just thought, oh, this is going to be fucking quiet.And then as soon as we walk into that room to get drinks with the yaoi, they're playing fucking psytrance.
The locals are going... We just broke out into dance.I mean, like that's going to look fake in the video, but that's literally what happened.
Very authentic.And then the locals were dancing as well.Yeah.And then the Yowie did a chug off with the, with one of the locals and the Yowie won.And the Yowie threw up in his, in his Yowie hat.Yep.If the locals didn't know who the Yowie was before.
They do now.Word has gone around town.
Yowie's been signed to the Pennyshaw Hotel.
Oh yeah, it was the Queens Hotel.
Yowie is now a local legend.Just absolutely so fun on the piss.Loves a sesh.Does anyone believe him?
He's not the only legend on Kangaroo Island.
It's true.There might be a bigger legend.Barry Green. The Ketamine Boys informed us that there was this local legend on the island who was famous for hunting feral cats, skinning them, and... Barry Green, bit of a local hunter, bit of a tramp.
Yeah, so we had no idea how to find this guy, but thankfully the Ketamine Boys gave us the street, and we saw his house, which is very easily identifiable because there's beer cans all over the tree out front.
And catskulls.Yeah, and catskulls.A lot of catskulls. So Barry Green is a conservationist who lives on Kangaroo Island and a big problem on Kangaroo Island and really across all the mainland in Australia is a feral cat population.
Feral cats aren't native to Australia, they were introduced You're not your typical domestic cuddly house cat.They're fucking mean.They kill birds.They kill native animals.They killed the animals in my yard.Yeah.
They're out of control and they're a menace to the ecosystem.So, you know, at a point it became necessary for these people to start trapping cats and then putting them down.
And before Barry Green came along, they were just catching these cats, killing them and just fucking discarding.Barry Green said, though, We're just wasting good fur, aren't we?Yeah.We're just wasting the potential of true art.Of high-end fashion.
High-end fashion.So Barry dedicated a good portion, I assume, he said like the last 20 years.Like 25 years.25 years to trapping cats, shooting them in the head with 308s, and then skinning them.
And making, he made a little beer cozy out of a kitten, which was, which was a sight.And then, and then the head tops the beard, which is hilarious.He had a beautiful vest.The vest might've been like 20 cats.It was like 20 cats to make up that vest.
It was two heads for the pockets too.He honestly looks like a goblin chief.He looked like a mountain man, like a very typical American, like pioneer, British mountain man.
Distinguished leathery face.
Yes. He had a cat hat, which was pretty lit.Yeah, the cat head on the front, the tail on the back.And he had something he called, what was it, like the curiosity wall?Oh, yeah.
He was very secretive about it at first.Yeah.It was like a blind in front of him.I think that's because his wife was disgusted by it.
Well, yeah, let's explain how we first interacted with him, because we were quite nervous that we were just dropping in on this old man.We didn't even call.We didn't call, we didn't write.
We had a van full of people, so me and Alexa sort of broke the ice at first.We just, you know, me and him, recording on my iPhone, thinking, fuck, he'll be the best.
Well, we needed a peace offering, so we parked down the road at the bottle shop, which is literally like, it would have been like 300 meters from his house.Yeah, it was so close.Fucking bottle shop. Slab of beer.
Slab of beer.We asked the lady behind the counter, do you know Barry the cat?He comes in here all the time.We asked him, what should we buy him?And she was like, yeah, any of these.And then what did you buy him?You bought him beer.Yeah.What was it?
It was like a Adelaide drawer.
Yeah.It was like Adelaide drawer or something.
Yeah.Adelaide drawer.Anyway, it's like a 30 pack of cans. and go back to Barry, me and Alexa, go up to him.I'm really nervous actually.I was terrified.
I thought maybe he doesn't want to be on camera, you know, like his passion is killing cats, like that doesn't really extend to film.
But we were like, you know, are we disturbing you?He was like, no, I was just having an afternoon drink.He was already on the piss.
Yeah, he was like, we walked up outside and he was outside with a can of beer. It was Cider though.
He doesn't drink beer anymore for some strange reason.
We got him, we were like, we brought you this slab of beer and he was like, oh, why?We were like, oh, we just thought we could have a chat with you.We're really interested in what you do here.You know, we think you're a fascinating guy.
And I think that kind of melted him a little bit.And then he was like, oh, come on, give me a tour. He's clearly given this tour like a hundred times.He loved it though.
And he had the visitor book as well that showed that there were thousands of people.He was on his second book.Went back and got the rest of the crew and he gave us the tour of his house.We were just covered in cat fur. Remains.There's cat skulls.
There's a cat clock.There was like a cat that was like crucified.
Do I remember it wrong?Was the cat's arms actually doing this?No, no, no.
The cat's arms were out like that.And then they had the hands on the inside of its belly.
It smelled like cat.It smelled like ammonia and vinegar.
It was all this stuff.He probably uses to tan them.
His wife was cooking dinner.At some points, I noticed that she was sort of just peering over the kitchen counter like, who are these guys?There were so many of us.
We're all dressed real stupid.But also, like, very quickly, I think he started getting a bit nervous because, like, We very obviously weren't hunting cats.
We kept bringing up the yaoi and he wanted nothing to do with it.
Yeah, dude, Danny started bringing up like, oh, so you're good at trapping cats, but... And then he like, he has his hand on the wall and he does this fucking dramatic pause.He turns over, he goes, but we're looking for something bigger.
And then the guy's like... What are you doing?He's like, sir, have you ever heard of the Yowie?He's just like, bullshit, like trying to shut it down immediately.
But he was strangely kind of just really dismissive and angry, like, wasn't like, what do you mean?It was just like, bullshit.It was almost like he was hiding something.Yep.And that's what I think Danny thought as well, Danny felt.
We kept pressing him, you know, we let him do his tour and, you know, genuinely interested in the guy, but we kept trying to get nuggets of information about Yowie and he shut it down at every turn.He wasn't having a bar of it.
He was like, come on, come off it.
And we were like, you clearly have experience trapping We were wondering if you could help us trap something perhaps a little bit bigger, something 12 foot tall perhaps.He was like, nah, nah, nothing like that, nothing like that.
He was like, nah, I'm going to catch that pig.
So he wasn't actually that helpful.He gave us a vague lead as to where to maybe look for such a creature, but he later revealed that he was just fooling with us.
He was, he was fooling.But he did promise that if we caught the yaoi, he would skin it for us.That's true.
Turns out the Yowie was just a great guy, but he didn't even want to skid in the Yash.I was only after he bought us alcohol.Thank God you only shot him in the leg.I feel bad about that.We could have never unlocked the legend of the Yowie.
He's in a wheelchair now man, a Yowie is in a wheelchair. You told me to shoot him.He's got crutches.You were screaming, shoot him.
Scream, shoot him.It's not my fault.We were all just doing our best.You know, we, we were, we had the legend misrepresented.Yeah.We were scared.We were told that the army was dangerous.We were told he was potentially gay.
No, I heard he was a pedophile.Yeah.We heard he was a pedophile.It turns out these were all just nasty rumors.
Slander.Yeah.Some, some people were just cooking up lies.I don't know why you would do that.It turns out people just don't like people that are different.
yeah yeah and um yeah we're sure he's a bit deaf he's a bit furry he stinks yeah sure he likes to drink a lot like a lot sure maybe he touches a kid's affectionately sometimes but just because he's a 12 foot tall furry man doesn't mean he's a pedophile in an innocent joe biden kind of way yeah yeah oysters in the air he hasn't been properly integrated into society he's gonna be a politician one day yeah he's gonna be mp of kangaroo island
Yeah.So anyway, the trip was a success.We got all this filming done.And we haven't really seen it.So honestly, we have no idea how this video is going to turn out.
I think it's going to be a little rough around the edges, I expect, but I'm hoping we can put it together and make a decent, a decent, what do you call it?Not a documentary, it's sort of a cinematic masterpiece, I would say.
Mixed with real elements of fucked up local life.Yeah. Why did you characters who better to share this experience?
Thank you boy boy, that's a fascinating guy we haven't even like dealt even slightly There is one thing I want to ask you because you you brought it up before that you had a near-death experience that you wanted to talk about I was going mountain biking
I've already talked about this on the podcast.I front braked going down and just went right over the handlebars, edge of a cliff face, very close to the edge.
got up, fucked up my shoulder, my leg was fucked up, I limp over, and Maria, Manuel's girlfriend, comes by on her bike.She's like, oh my god, Swag, are you okay?He's like, yeah, I'm like, I'm fine.
She takes the bike, she leans it up against a rock, a big fucking boulder the size of, like, this helmet, like, fucking rolls off the, like, the thing she's hit the bike on, right onto her foot.Holy fuck. And we couldn't get a ATV down.
None of us had phones.There was no way to get shuttled down.We're on this very thin bike trail.So we had to walk all the way down this bike trail.It took us like an hour.
But your near death experience is Maria's near death experience.
My near death experience was being incredibly close to the edge of a cliff.That's so overly dramatic.
I was halfway down the mountain, loving the mountain biking, when I just hear like a, ah, and I see birds.
What was yours?Mine was when I was canyoning, which is where you, it's kind of like in the Blue Mountains in Sydney, there's these kind of like deep kind of ravines that have been carved out by water.
And they get really deep, like maybe 50 meters deep.And they're probably like, I don't know, like four to five meters wide, but just massive drops.And they have water flowing through them.
And I'd wanted to do one for a while, which is basically where you start at the top and go all the way down to the bottom and then hike back up.
and I have a friend that does it, and we were out drinking the night before, and then we got on drugs, and then we had slept like two hours, and then I thought, oh no, I'm sure this can't go on.Could I ask, could this be drugs?
I think it was dex, just a lot of dex.
Isn't that just medicine for you?
Yes, but not when you snort it.And then, so we proceeded to do this canyon, which turns out is 12 hours on a good day, with no problems. And I'd never abseiled in conditions like that, which is down like a steep ravine in a waterfall.
And we start this canyon and we get to the first big abseil, which was like a 20 or 30 meter abseil down onto a rock, which is called a chalk stone, which is caught in the middle of this ravine.
And when you're on this rock, what you have to do is you abseil down onto it, you unclip, and you have to clip onto another rope on the side.And as I got down, I got onto it and I was fucking in the middle of the waterfall.
I was cold and numb because I didn't have a proper wetsuit and I was fucking had two hours sleep.And I dropped my device and I dropped it like 30 meters and just disappeared.
So then I had to stand on this rock on a waterfall waiting for Matt to fucking, maybe I shouldn't say his name, to abseil down.And then eventually he abseils down.And then when he lands, we hear thunder. Oh my God, we're stuck on this rock.
Only one of us has an abseiling device.What do we do?We're both getting number and number.And eventually we decided that like, we made up a solution, which was that I would abseil down into this water.
And at the bottom was a lake, which was like five meters deep.So I was floating. And then as I was floating, the rope was still attached to the top.I had to take off this device, attach it to the rope and Matt would pull it back up for himself.
And if at any point it came off, Matt would have just been stuck up there and die.And then there's thunder and it starts to rain and we can feel the fucking water getting a bit. Didn't that rock dislodge recently?Uh, no, I don't think that one.
Rocky was standing on mossy and slippery.Yeah, it was all slippery.It was all cold.We were numb because we had fucking, the water's cold, like eight degrees.Oh my God.And it was just like horrendous.
And there was so many times where I was just like, yeah, this is how I die.Cause I was feeling like hypothermic and numb when I was trying to use the rope. You could have had your own 127 hours to have your stance.
Yeah, I should have just bitten off my arm to make it more interesting.
I think that was probably the closest I've been because it was like, you know, one wrong move, one slip, you're dead.So how long in total was the situation sort of unfolding for? It was dark when we got back.
There was one point we got lost as well on the way out.The canyons called Butterbox for anyone that's.Very slippery.And yeah, we just got lost and then we had to climb out.I think it was dark by the time we got out.
We're all street, like fucking, yeah, shaking.Oh, it's horrible.Have you been canyoning since?
I took my family canyoning.Didn't deter you at all?No.I tried to take my mom on like a nice And I think the canyon was meant to take six hours, but again, it took us 12 hours.My brother and mom were like hypothermic at the end.
This one had no abseiling, but still horrible.And then six months after that, three people died in that canyon. I think there was higher water and they got swept down just a rock that the water passed underneath and just got trapped and died.
I think it was like a month before we went fucking mountain biking in Tennis Mania, a couple people died on the trail too.Really?You should try canyoning next.
You should do it.I'll be your guide if you want, I'm great at it.I would actually do it for sure. I've been curious.There are some safe ones to do, son, without high water flow.
He says that, but he always talks it down.
I'm down to walk a trail.Yeah, you can get up a trail.I'm not down to abseil down a fucking cliff with cold ass water being poured on me.
Do you reckon his family agreed to 12 hours walking around?He sold it to them as well as like, oh, it's so nice.It's just a nice walk.Well, he pitched it to them at six hours.Yeah, yeah.
It's 4am.It was meant to be 4am.
Oh, it was meant to be 4am.
It's 12.It's a long day.It's a very long day.Did you bring food and like packs and stuff?We did, but not enough.Fun day.You're an adventurous fellow. You both are adventurous fellas.So are you boys.
Thank you for inviting us out here to Kangaroo Island, which we're currently on right now.Currently on Kangaroo Island.As you can see.Yeah.Water.Kangaroo.Kangaroos.Island.Well, thanks everyone very much for listening.
This has been Boi Boi and I did a thing.Thank you for having us.Yeah.See you later.
Bye bye.Do you wanna fuck with the kangaroos?
Yeah, let's do the fuck.Let's just walk up to them, yeah?
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