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Because in the coming generations, we will learn how to engineer bodies and brains and minds.For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy.
Our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat.Indeterminate moment, Christ's believers will be caught up, snatched up out of this world while the world goes on with a very, very definite agenda.
Well, what's up, everybody?Welcome to another episode of All Out War.I'm Turner, and I'm with Rosie in the studio.What's up, Rosie?
Let me look and see, what episode are we on right now?We are on, I think we're on episode 175.This is episode 175.Nice.Yeah.Our last episode was in, I think, July.We have done our break, and I'm so glad to be back.
I think... Yeah, it's nice.
Yeah.And it kind of feels like a starting over again.I feel like when we ended, you know, before we did, had Vicki on, which was awesome, which we want to get her back on again, actually, with our last episode about the sleep process.I feel like...
I feel like that break was personally just I needed it.And it really was an opportunity to just kind of look at everything from a new set of eyes and be kind of distant from it for a minute.It's amazing how
I don't know how you, if you feel this way, but it's amazing how like the, I don't know what the right term is.I will just call it for the sake of this is conspiracy culture or truthers, truth or ville, truth or ism, truth or land.
A lot of these podcasts that are like ours that will talk about things that we talk about, spiritual things and the stuff that you don't hear about in sermons that we've talked about for the last couple years.
And it can really pull you in and it really pulls you in because there's always a new angle to look at something.And I feel like when we took our break, I didn't even like... I almost stopped looking at Instagram for a lot.
people would text me just rando, what do you think about P Diddy?What do you think about this?What do you think about that?And I love the fact that people wanna know what I think about stuff.I really, my opinion is horrible.
It's like, those that know me, my opinion, it's not anything that you would be texting me about, honestly.It's unimpressive. And a lot of times people know so much more than I even do, which is hilarious.
But anyways, getting away from it all, for me personally, was a little bit refreshing, because I was able to step away from that whole world.And I actually played golf a couple times.
For me personally, it was like a big personal thing, and I'll get into some of your story too, because I think... No, no, go ahead.I wanna update our listeners on you.
But one of the things I did was, and I apologize if my voice is kind of hoarse, it's because at this time of this recording on Sunday night, uh, what is today?
The 25th, 27th of October, the Washington Redskins, AKA the commanders won with no time on the clock, uh, with a hail Mary throw and my house, my wife and I were watching the game and we went nuts cause we've been lifelong Redskins fans.
And they're on a rip this year, this season with the whole new... Anyways, if you're not a sports person, you're like, well, who cares?But I was screaming so loud and just jumping up and down.
My wife and I were jumping up and down screaming because we've been in such a drought of winning that like...
my kids never knew the epic Redskins history of winning the Super Bowls with Joe Gibbs and all of the amazing players, but I grew up with that.So they've never known it.I've never known it.Yeah, you've, yeah, you're too young to really know either.
Cause the last one was like 94 when they won a Super Bowl and you were born when like 90.Yeah.So you were like three years old when three or four years old.So yeah, they, they, um, They've been in a drought for a long time.
So anyways, that's why my voice is kind of hoarse right now, because I was screaming and yelling and we were... I can't believe this, I can't believe this, oh my gosh.
And then my phone blew up to my sister who lives in Texas and my friend in Kansas City, Joel, shout out to Joel from Tricome.He was like, dude, your guys... Yeah, we always support you.Shout out to Joel.Yeah, shout out to Joel.
He loves the... He's a Kansas City fan, because he lives in Kansas City. How hard is it to be a Kansas City fan?They always win.They're going for their third Super Bowl in a row.
They're trying to go for that for this year, and they're undefeated right now, which is insane.So he doesn't know what it's like to go through a drought.I do.Anyways, so that's my voice, but... I'm just getting over being sick.
And also, so here's the crazy thing.When I knew we were gonna do this episode, And this goes back to our previous episode.I don't know what was going on, but I had the worst case of insomnia last night.
Dude, I went to bed about 10, 30, 11 o'clock and that was on a Saturday night, right?
And I was up at like 1.30 and then I couldn't fall asleep.So then I was like, on Twitter, just scrolling, just doom scrolling, reading people's tweets and stuff.And then my dog realized I was up, I guess.
And so then he's like, hey, why don't we go outside so I can go to the bathroom?And so he's whimpering.So at 3.15 in the morning, I'm standing on my front porch.
As he's deciding to go on a safari through my front yard, you know, just smelling every blade of grass to see which one he wants to pee on, you know.
And finally, you know, and it's cooling down, it's getting cold, so I'm standing out there in no shirt and a pair of shorts, a pair of gym shorts and no shirt.And it's like, it was probably 30 something degrees, 38 degrees, 40 degrees.
So I was like, hurry up, Wilson.So anyways, I didn't get back to sleep really. And then, uh, so I had that and I didn't nap today.I wanted to, that was the plan, but it just didn't happen.And, uh, so anyways, enough about, about me.
What's going on with you, man?Cause during this break, you've had a few life things that have happened.
Yeah.It seems like there's a lot and there's also not that much.Yeah, no, I mean, well, to piggyback on like what you had said, uh, to start it off with is. we, we've been talking about this for like a couple of years.
just like, I think I've said it, you know, I don't know exactly when it was, it was probably after COVID or during COVID or whatever, when I was just like, I'm just so done with this conspiracy stuff.
And like the stuff, you know, and that was like a crazy time.I mean, that was so crazy to think about.It's almost five years ago.
Yeah.And it's really woke a lot of people up.
Yeah.And there was, uh, I was listening to this other podcast today.Um, it was like an older one.
And, uh, I mean, not like an older one, but it, you know, it came out a couple of months ago and it was this guy and he was, uh, talking about how he is a, uh, anti-authoritarian, just like by his nature.It's just all this.
And he was talking literally about the same feelings that I, we both had and that you just said is all of a sudden, you know, it was kind of cool or, you know, it, it wasn't cool to be like in the conspiracy stuff.
And it was like this, you know, that was the counterculture stuff.Right.
And then after COVID when so many people woke up and consequently after that, You know, since then, this is kind of like very mainstream.
Like all of this stuff is...
President Trump was on Joe Rogan.He was on Joe Rogan.Yeah.Yeah.So like that's how mainstream it is.Yeah.
There's this part of me that I, at first, because I'm kind of the same way or, you know, just growing up weird and being, I described it as, it used to be something that I was like as a nerdy kid that grew up online that was interested in really weird stuff.
Like not that I found an identity in that, but it was like, there was some part of me that was, into it because it was, maybe a hipster, maybe I'm a hipster, but I was kind of into it because no one else was.
And it was like, this is kind of my cool little thing.That is a hipster.
Yeah.So maybe I'm just a hipster and all of a sudden that now it's popular.I'm like, I don't like it anymore.Right.Yeah.But it, uh, it's just everywhere and there's nothing wrong with, uh, people,
getting interested in the stuff and learning stuff, but it just was so oversaturated that it's like, I don't know, I don't want to say it lost being fun, but it lost like the luster and it just became overwhelming.
It's like every single thing that I would read, there's no escape, you know?
The algorithm to like social medium or anything, the minute that something would happen, I would like open up Instagram and there would be like eight posts in a row of talking.And it's always like, we got to talk.
Like immediately on Twitter, like last night when I was scrolling through Twitter or X or whatever they call it now, it was everybody commenting on Trump and Rogan.Here's my take, here's my take.Who cares about your take?I don't care.
I don't even know you.Why do I care about your take?And it's everybody wants to be their own broadcaster or whatever, I guess.
And what's weird is, uh, in this podcast I was listening to, he was talking about, um, how, when he started it, he started like a blog and then eventually, uh, it became.
Like his story, he had this blog and then a radio station reached out to him and was like, Hey, would you want to come and talk?We read your blog, like some small radio station in like some place.And he never thought about being podcaster.
He never wanted to do it.And it turned into now he does a pretty successful podcast or whatever, but he like the difference between, and I think we were probably still in the tail end of
doing a podcast before that was a thing, before being a podcaster.You mean the front end or the tail end?Kind of the tail end.Did I say front end?
No, you said tail end, but I feel like we got in in 2018 before everybody was starting to have podcasts.
That's true.Yeah, maybe so. Yeah.
Maybe, man, I keep forgetting, but anyway, the whole thing here is making this point and like that nowadays, like people set out, I want to be a podcaster and they come in with all this money and like set up to do this thing.And.
there's so now because conspiracy theories are so mainstream, it's just been like this influx of stuff.And not to say that like, we're so original, by any means, I'm not saying that at all.
But there's been like this overload, and I'm not even throwing crap on anybody, like, you know, throwing shade, whatever the term is.But a lot of the stuff, I'm just, and this has nothing to do with this podcast.
It's just what has been going on with me too, is, Like when I got into it in the early two thousands, you know, right after nine 11, it was, you know, like Alex Jones and stuff like that.
I was Bohemian Grove when I watched this video in 99 or 2000 online.That's when I was in, um, I'm all in, but there was.
like a lot of older content that like those people were still referencing, like books from the eighties and the nineties and the two thousands.Like William or Bill, uh, what's his name?
Yeah.Bill Cooper was there and you know, like Jim Mars and all these big like Titans that were writing all these books back then.
And then when YouTube took off in like the two thousands to the late two thousands to 2010s and people were, um, adding on to content that these pillars, these guys who built this stuff.So there's like adding this new content onto it.
And then it seemed like the generation where
And not necessarily us, but like kind of when we were coming up, you know, after the YouTube stuff started happening, it seemed like there was this resurgence of people that were going back to the early 2000s.
It's like, they're going like kind of 20 years back and now people are like,
Redis they're rediscovering the stuff from 1980s again, so it's all this like Reese kind of it feels very recycled like yeah on Twitter I'm seeing threads or you know a little bit of that check on Twitter, you know, it's just stuff where they're just reiterating the same stuff now that was like four years ago and
And it's just like the cycle of, and just kind of repeating the same stuff.
And there really hasn't been new kind of exciting, interesting stuff for me for a couple of years that is like, really like, this is a really cool thing I really want to dive into and research.
Yeah.Yeah, no, I agree 100%.I've just been burnt out for years.I think it's conspiracy fatigue.Yeah.Right?If there is such a thing. Like I can hear, okay, aliens still hold my attention a little bit, but it's gone so over the top now.
Like if you go into Twitter, like UAP, like they have a whole like UAP section, it's literally insane.And the things that they proclaim that are happening are going to happen or whatever.And the other thing too is that I think that
Really it was the Lord for us, it was seeing these things and then trying to make sense of them in light of the Bible. And there wasn't a whole lot of people doing that.
There were Christians for sure that were doing stuff like that, but they weren't doing it in that way.And that was just a natural thing for me because that's how I kind of approach everything in life.
If I'm gonna go into business or something like that, then I'm gonna like, okay, what is... Let's evaluate this based on scripture, like what are my values, what are...
And, and I think that's when we, when I was reading about these things for me personally, like you were introducing me to things that I'd never even heard before.
And then I realized there was an entire world of spiritual things that, um, the church never, ever addressed.Like I never heard a sermon, you know, about things.
And then it started to kind of like, it was like a flower.It just kind of opened up for me, but now it's like almost too much.
And for me personally, and I think you nailed this the other night, because we've been so busy, you and I haven't even had a chance to hang out.Yeah.
And we were hanging out finally, for the first time in a long time, and you said, let's just go back to our roots.
Let's just go back to our roots.And you were like, I kinda wanna just do something more biblical. And I was like... It just resonated with me.When you said it, it was like, that's... Yeah, that's what I need to do.That's what I need to do.
Yeah.And I said that, because that's what I need to do.
Right.Yeah.And I don't know if our listeners are... Usually, what's interesting about a situation like us is we're usually... God benefits us with being one step ahead, maybe two steps ahead of some of our listeners.
So like we actually introduced something to them and then they, they're like, Oh, okay, wow, that's cool.I had, I kind of sensed that, but I didn't see that the way you saw it.And it's because we have, like when Torah, when we had, you know, R.L.
Solberg on for Torahism, you know, and the Hebrew roots thing like that, like that was like this sort of undercurrent that it was just, it was gaining in popularity. And we had RL on, like I just happened, like God just led me to RL by incident.
It was like literally the Lord just was like, hey, this is the guy you need to have on your podcast.And he wrote a book about it, and I read his book, and I was like, I gotta really have this guy on.
Turns out he's an awesome dude, he's a cool guy, we're friends now, and I think he's an awesome guy.And he's spot on.Same thing with Enneagram, same thing with, it's just always had us up front a little bit. Preterism was another one.
And I think the next one that's going to come up, which I don't know if we're going to necessarily do anything on, but it's kind of sad because tangently we're kind of connected to this, just like we were tangently connected to the clown, what is it?
Nephilim look like clowns?Yeah, yeah. is the polygamy, Christian polygamy movement.
And I remember I sent you that link from Mike Winger, and he was debating some guy, and the guy that he was debating was a guy that we had on our podcast back a couple years ago, and his name was Rob, Rob Kowalski, and he had wrote a book called Wild Waiting Works, and it's about basically monogamy, or not monogamy, but
celibacy and when you wait for your wife or your spouse that God's gonna bring you your husband your wife and this is a guy who had a crazy testimony because he had been a male stripper and God had plucked him out and really saved him and now he's like endorsing this polygamy thing which is really sad and I don't really talk to him or else I would consider just
like doing like talking to him but I hadn't seen him in so long and then it came across Mike Winger came across a feed on something and then I looked and it was a split screen and it was him and I was like oh that's wait what's going on here and then I was like holy cow and so then I sent you the link and I was like dude this guy was on our podcast so maybe we're not always right
Well, I mean, I think at the time, I think that's a big thing that hopefully our listeners don't hold us to as much.I hope not.Is like, you can, you talked to somebody five years ago.Yeah.And you're talking about a specific topic.
And all of a sudden you find out after the fact that they change their mind about something.
And you know, it's not really, I don't, yeah, we can't control what somebody decides to believe five years after we took three or four years after we talked to him.But, um, anyways, yeah.
Yeah.I don't, I don't have any other updates.
I don't know.Can you think of one?
I mean, I know a couple, but I don't want to, I don't want to like pull a cat out of a bag or anything like that, unless you're ready to,
Oh, that I'm dating someone?Yeah.
Rosie's got a girl.I got a girl.She's great.She is.She's really cool.That's awesome.Yeah.So he's off the market, ladies.Yeah.Sorry.I know we had tried to use the podcast to find you a girl at one point, and it almost worked.
There was a couple people that were interested, but it just never really panned out.
Because God didn't have that in his will for you.Yeah. But congratulations on that, by the way.Yeah.Faithfully Waiting.Why Waiting Works, man.Yeah.There's a book you should read.Why Waiting Works.
I can give you a copy of it.Yeah.
I'm not going to read it.After being married almost 30 years.Yeah. Yeah, we just wanted to kind of open up the podcast with just a little bit of a personal kind of like where we were.
And the other thing I would say too that I didn't mention, one of the reasons we needed... I needed to take a break personally because my family was going through a lot of stuff.
We were moving... We had done this huge update in my house, like a big remodel project.And I was also starting a new career, a new job.And I had to really focus on that.
And with the family stuff and the house stuff and then the job stuff, it really just made my margins very thin.And even to this point, like yesterday I was off, I didn't have to work.I've been working six days a week for most since like May.
And I didn't have to work, but I had to do work on the house.So it's like I'm doing, physically doing the work as well on my house. We've just been, I've just been really, really just personally busy.Busy, busy.
And so any time that I've had, I want to spend with my wife.We want to be able to go out to dinner and just watch a show or something.
I remember there was some comment on something.I don't think someone, oh, someone did leave it on the Apple reviews, which is so funny because I don't care about the reviews. Go give us a five star that would help us now that we're coming back.
Like and subscribe.Like and subscribe.It does help us, believe it or not, get us in front of the, I don't know, whatever they say.Remember there's some comment where it's like, all they do is read Wikipedia articles or something like that.
And we have used Wikipedia before to say something.But the whole point of where I'm going with that is, being so busy during the week.Yeah.Work has been crazy for me.
Um, but I didn't start a new career, but you know, it's been a little crazy and uh, yeah, having a new relationship and all that kind of stuff and life just happening, you know, friends and you know, stuff happening is, um, believe it or not, we actually do prepare for podcast episodes.
So that involves like reading and even if a lot of it doesn't, uh, make itself known.There was episodes where we would find something to go through and read it.
And so it would require preparing for it, reading whatever we were gonna read, knowing what we were gonna add into it.Yeah, thinking about it.Thinking about it.And even on topics where we weren't reading something, we wanna be knowledgeable about it.
about, so we're not just talking out of our butts, you know, like coming to it.So there's a lot of preparation that we would spend during the week, especially when we were doing every week.And so with that point is,
we just didn't have time during the week.Like you had a job, I had a job, you have a family.Doing all this stuff is, we didn't wanna put out like a mediocre product.
So there was never this thing where we talked about like, hey, do you wanna record now?And then we're like, what could we easily talk about?And it's like, there's really nothing that we would feel confident putting out just to put something out.
Because we care about you guys and don't want to give you some and we've never been like a current events kind of no we actually specifically stayed away stayed away from doing current events because And that was like so this is like behind the curtain stuff right now Which is good because I think people need to know like it's to do a podcast.
It's not easy to pull out like a And for us, it was never like, we never made money off this thing.
I think we had like at one time, I think we may have made like 200 bucks out of the last five years.
That wouldn't pay for a year of hosting.
Yeah.That wouldn't pay for a year of hosting for the pocket.So, and all the equipment we've purchased ourselves and like, you know, we've.It's never been about money.Yeah.It's never been about money.
So it's always been a passion project for, for both of us.But we wanted to do it well, whatever we did.And finding the guests and all, getting in touch with them, taking care of social media and all of that, it's work.It takes time.
And so I was utilizing while I was going to school, I think you were on a break.
I think this is when Jessica was on I was still going through my schooling and So I would like be at home all day pretty much because I was getting paid to go to school so I was working from home essentially and You have time when you're there but now my job takes me out into the field and I'm just I'm either driving or I'm working with clients and so I don't have time to just
do stuff.Like I barely have time to do Instagram for my job.They want us to do Instagram for our job and update posts every day and all this stuff.And I think when you realize how much work it is to do it well.
And we kind of grew and that was unexpected.I think I remember having a conversation and you might've been there with Jessica after we had recorded with somebody, we had a guest on and we were kind of spitballing about like future episodes and stuff.
And I think she wanted to do current, like let's do current events or whatever.And it's always been something that's always been an option for us, but we always stayed away from that. Like, you know, and there's nothing against podcasts that do that.
Like, that's fine.If you guys want to do like, hey, this week P Diddy was arrested, let's talk about it.And let's, you know, let's cram in and let's be the person that does that.Let's be the podcast that does it.
I'm fine with, like, if you want to do that, that's fine.It just was never our thing.Our thing was a little, always just a little bit different.And I think it just is the way you and I are.It really comes out of our personalities more than anything.
You and I will talk over wings about, you know, is Donald Trump the Antichrist or, you know, is whatever, you know what I mean?Like we'll talk about that stuff.
Anyways, my whole point of that is, is going back to our roots, which is what we are going to try and start a series on right now, today, this episode.
And so you've listened for, you know, 25 minutes of us rambling on about our life, which I appreciate.So I should probably, I'll probably go back and put a disclaimer at the front of this thing.
Like, Hey, we're going to talk about ourselves for a little bit.So if you don't want to hear that, just fast forward to 25 minutes and 30 minutes or whatever, however long it takes for us to get to the intro.
We are going to go through a friend of ours who wrote a book, Aaron Faulkman, and he's been on the podcast before, and I've been on two other podcasts as a guest, and he was a guest on as well.
By the way, we'll be guests on podcasts if you want us to.We love doing that, it's kind of fun. I love the community, so it's fun to do that.But Aaron was on with us about the Satan's Little Season.And he's just a brilliant guy.
And he wrote, he's written two books.His first book he wrote was called The Revelation, Every Eye Will See Him.It's available on Amazon.And I read it, and you're reading it, and I'm rereading it, I guess.
And so we're going to kind of walk through that.And it's a book about
kind of like the chronology of Revelation, based on Scripture, totally on Scripture, on piecing, kind of weaving together the prophecies out of Daniel, Hosea, Matthew, Luke, and even Mark.
And so he kind of puts everything together, and he really helps kind of He really helped me kind of put that all together for me.And I've studied it a lot, but it's easy to get confused on some of these things.
And I felt like he did a really great job with the book to describe these things.The one difference, and I need to be upfront about this, the one difference that Aaron and I have had always, and we've talked about it.
you know, his brain's bigger than mine, but it still is kind of like where I stand on things.And he believes, and this is where there's room for both of us.And he'll admit it.
He's like, I'm not like hardcore on this, but this is just what I've come down on.And I'm like, okay, well, I don't fall in that same category.Who is the restrainer that Paul writes about in Thessalonians?
And he would say that the restrainer is the angel Gabriel. And I have always been taught that the restrainer is the church.So when the church is removed, then the Antichrist can take his place in the temple.
And so he believes that the rapture will occur, but he believes it will happen somewhere towards the middle of what is properly known as the tribulation period. And so that's what his book kind of explains out.
And I think it's really helpful to know these things.
Because, you know, amillennialism, postmillennialism, preterists, they all have different eschatological beliefs, and those beliefs dictate how they live out their faith.
The pre-millennial, pre-tribulationalists, or dispensationalists is what they like to be ragged on about, which you and I joke like we're just those dispies.What they believe dictates how they live as well.And I think there's value in all of
what like my brothers that are post mill, brothers and sisters that are post mill, I don't like rag on them necessarily.It's just not what I believe.I don't see the scriptures playing out that way.
And there's reasons and we'll kind of cover some of those things through this book.And so what we're going to do is we're going to just highlight chapter by chapter through the book.I recommend just getting the book and reading it.
At the very least, if you disagree with it, you'll know why they believe what they believe.And at least you can engage in a fruitful conversation with somebody.
And I think the biggest thing about why it's worthwhile, especially this book, it's so good.And Aaron, he has... a YouTube channel.
Yes.That is... Underground publishing.
Underground publishing.It is phenomenal.It's so good.Like when you sent it to me, I was like, how is nobody talking about the stuff?The clarity, the knowledge that he has is so amazing.It's so good.And with this book, even if there is a minor
I don't want to say disagreement about specific stuff. Because he does believe in a rapture.He is pre-millennial.Yeah, pre-wrath.Pre-wrath, which is all things that we agree on.
It's just, and I've heard him say on a podcast, and I'm making sure I'm not misconstruing his words, is he says that he is a pre, I'm sorry, mid-trib,
but only because that's what other people, that's closer to what he aligns with, or other people would call him mid-trip, but he isn't actually what mid-trippers are.There is a subtle difference.
And the reason, so we agree on so much, and I've learned so much from him.The book is, and everything he does, he is a phenomenal,
wealth of information about the early church, about the church fathers, about what they actually believed, what they taught, what is in the books.He knows all the little intricate, nuanced histories that's going on in that time.
His second book is called Rightly Dividing, which is phenomenal as well.Anyway, the whole point of where I'm going with this is
There's so much that we, if you are a premill dispensationalist like us, there's nothing scary in this that would really challenge you.And I think all of the evidence, like all he uses is the Bible and there's not weird leaps that he's going to.
And a lot of it makes a lot of more sense than, I don't want to say I've been taught like stuff.I've said this before, right?
that I almost felt like, which I was totally okay with as a kid, having that kind of childlike faith, whereas just the Sunday school answer, I was totally okay with that.Why did God flood the world?Because they're bad.Why did he kill everybody?
Because they were bad and they needed to be killed.And I'm not being facetious or anything like that.I am 100% content, and I don't think I'm a stupid guy.And I care about like evidence and stuff like that.
But that's enough for me, because God did it, and there's some reason.And I was always told, there's not really more of a reason in the Bible, because they never talked about the Nephilim.
So then all of a sudden, when I learned about that, it was like, oh my gosh, I'm allowed to use my brain.I'm OK with the kindergarten, elementary, Sunday school answer.I'm totally OK with that.But it allowed me to think more about it.
Reading this book is like oh, they're they're so not to say that with this pre-mail that that's kind of my default because that's what I grew up in and it made sense with Me and I'm just like I don't I see other arguments for like post mill.
There's never anything that made me Change my view, right?So I don't know if you call me ignorant or you know that but it always just made sense to me sense to me I think it helped me be open more.
Yeah to it to know that I there could be something that I'm not... I haven't fleshed out entirely.
And as you said, I took it at face value for what I was taught, because I trusted my teachers that were... My pastors that were teaching me these things.
But this is supplemental, is what I'm saying.There's nothing in here that I've really read that disagrees with that kind of kindergarten answer or Sunday school that isn't going in more depth.
This just gives me more evidence and fervor for like, oh yeah, this is true.There is gonna be a rapture.
Like I'm confident in that.There is a millennial reign, a literal thousand years that Jesus is gonna be on the earth ruling and reigning.It's not happening right now.It hasn't already happened.
It hasn't already happened, we didn't miss the rapture, we didn't miss Jesus's reign.
So even if you don't... I'm just kind of prerequisite, just in case anyone's coming in and saying like, why are you... They took a break and now they're not even pre... It moved their eschatology.
So even if you don't... And I think anyone that listens to this is... You can take it, it's gonna give you so much more evidence, scriptural-backed evidence.Yeah, for sure.
And it makes so much more sense, and hopefully we can convey that when we're talking about it.And again, we're not just gonna read the book out, hopefully we will add to the discussion.
Yeah. That's kind of the whole point is we don't wanna just read big swaths of chapters, like we've done that with other things and I think we just do this one a little bit different.
This does remind me of something, I remember I told you a story that happened to me just today.
I just want to share it real quick and it has to do with the rapture and stuff so I'm friends with some elderly Saints that are in their 80s and just wonderful wonderful Saints like I don't know any other term to give them other than Saints and The it's a husband and wife and the husband is he's in his 80s and he's he's become he Alzheimer's is set in and
Dementia is really bad.And so they're trying to deal with that.His wife is trying to deal with that.And it's also causing some physical problems.She called me today and she was, you know, they live in a different state.
So I don't really get to see them very often, but this is like an example.The woman, I went on a missions trip to Haiti a couple of years ago and we get back from the missions trip and she's like, what was going on in the mission trip?
Because every night when I'd go to bed I could not sleep until I prayed for you guys, like your team that went.There was like 20 of us.And it was like the hardest mission trip I've ever been on.Like everyone got super sick.I got food poisoned.
Which doctors were trying to like hex us, for real, they were hexing us.And we did a pastor's conference.
We did a regular missions trip with the church and then the missions pastor and myself stayed back and we helped facilitate a local pastors conference with a bunch of local pastors, which a lot of these local pastors are biblically illiterate, so you're just giving them basic theology and stuff because they've been taught so many bad things.
And it was just a huge spiritual warfare, like the whole thing.And God woke her up in the middle of the night, wouldn't let her go to sleep until she prayed for us.
And so she knew something was happening, she just didn't have any updates, and so when she finally saw us when we got back, that's the type of woman she is. And she's prayed for me in my ministries over the years, just faithfully.
So her husband goes to bed.She hurt her back, and I'll shorten this up.She's been sleeping in a recliner because it's mechanical and she can get in and out of it easier than her bed because she can't get her legs up in her bed because of her back.
And so her husband would go to bed and he finally was like, Just come and sleep in the bed.Be with me in the room.I want you to be in there."Because she had been out there for like a week or two.So she agreed.
So she came in and went to bed later on that evening and they had worship music playing.And she's laying there and it was about two o'clock in the morning and she hears her husband mumbling.So she wakes up and she looks over.
And he's laying on his back and both of his hands are straight up.So they're pointed.If he's on his back, they're just pointed to the ceiling.And he's saying things.And she can't really make out what he's saying.
And there's tears coming out of his eyes.His eyes were closed.But he was asleep.He was either having a really vivid dream or something was happening. And after a minute, he put like his one hand down, he just had his one hand up.
And so she was like, and he was just talking, like he was having a conversation.And so she woke him up and she's like, are you okay?What's going on?You know?And he's like, remember this guy has dementia.He had such clarity.
And he's like, I need to tell you, the Lord came to me and told me that I'm going to be going home soon. and that you're not going to be there with me, but you will follow me.
And that the rapture is going to happen very, very soon, sooner than people think.And she was like, what?And he goes, oh, and this is like two weeks ago when this happened.
And she goes, he said, and Israel is about to become a boiling point of where they're going to be attacked on all sides.
And like, first of all, the guy doesn't watch the TV or the news, as far as I know, and he may watch a little bit, but he's got dementia, like he's, he can't, it's pretty severe.
Yeah, it's far along.And like, they're trying to decide if they need to put them in a home and
but then here he is asleep, and the Lord visits him, you know, according to Him, and tells him, you're going to be home soon with me, and your wife is going to stay, but she'll follow, and the rapture's happening sooner than people realize.
So I just like, when she called me and told me that today, I was just like, dude, I knew we were going to be talking about this topic, and I was like, this is so fitting, just how the Lord was just kind of
And I don't wanna make more of something than we need to, because the Scriptures tell us these things.He's just confirming Scripture, that it is close, and I think it's closer than we realize.
And so that's why I think this is an important study for us.
And if you're on the fence about this stuff, and you're not really sure what you believe, then just hear us out, and pray about it, and see where you end up on it.You don't have to, I'm not trying to convince you.
That's not my job, and it's not our job.Our job is to present to you what we believe as to being the truth, and then you can deal with it accordingly.And the Lord will, he will witness, he'll bear witness to the truth for you.
And you'll know in your heart and your spirit what is truth, you will.
Yeah, and maybe that's a good way to start off with, to go through the book, starting off in the introduction for this.
And you had alluded to it earlier, but just the fact of, with that story, which gave me goosebumps when you told me, before we started, before we were recording.And so Aaron breaks down,
why it is so important and why the eschatological view that you hold and throughout history in different, throughout different governments, like when you had Constantine and how the church was under Constantine, then when you had the Holy Roman Empire, which was tied in with, you didn't have one kind of
king czar that was over the entire area.The Holy Roman Empire was the popes and the kings.And it was a circular thing where
the popes had the power because they were given it by the kings, but the kings were putting the popes into power that were helping them.That's the early history of the popes in the Catholic Church.
This is all the Holy Roman Empire, they're constantly... It was the Roman Catholic Church, which is now... But maybe just a tangent to go off of real quick because of that, because of the popes, like the first 13, 14 popes, um, they're crazy.
Like it's there, there, there is not a lot of good guys there.There's a handful of them that were decent, you know, guys that were doing it for the right thing that were bishops.Um, but this was the early Catholic church.
is that there was politics, there was multiple times throughout the history since then, since the beginning of the church where there's been multiple popes that were recognized by different factions within the Roman Empire, within the Catholic Church, that were, they killed each other, they assumed thrones, they did like Game of Thrones stuff, right?
They're killing each other and putting their puppets in only to get them, to give them a spot and then they would kill the guy that they put in.It's craziness.So that's the aside of there has not been a
you know, chain of succession back to Peter, who was the first pope, that is very clear and unambiguous.That's never happened, that's never been the case.
That being said, Aaron didn't talk about that in the introduction, but in that history, the way that the church, the faithful, not taking that kind of political church out of it,
how the average person witnessed how they lived their life was hugely dependent on the way that they viewed the end times.And that's true still today.
Witnessing to people, you know, even being evangelical, you know, like, I don't want to put on anyone, but maybe I'll say this is, there may not be, if you don't know, you may not want to go evangelize to someone if
there's no way if God didn't make them be saved, there's no way you can do that.They're not chosen.If they're not chosen, then... Predestined, right.Yeah, they're not predestined and may not wanna evangelize that much.
That kind of stuff can play out in your faith and how you do that in the eschatological way of that, your view.
So we crap on both the Catholics and the Protestants. Calvinists in this podcast.
And the Protestants, too.
And the Protestants.Everyone, yeah, around you.Yeah, I mean, exactly.
And I think, too, literally, this is the opening sentence of his introduction that says, in recent efforts to foster unity among various Christian denominations, evangelical influencers have begun distinguishing between issues they determine to be primary and secondary in importance, labeling the categories like theology proper,
the nature of the Godhead, Christology, the nature of Jesus, and Soteriology, how one is saved, as being primary issues while reducing other categories of theology as being secondary issues.
He goes on to talk about how eschatology is one of those secondary issues and they basically position it down there because it causes division and people have different beliefs, and they don't want to cause division.
But he walks through and he talks about how historically from the Apostles then to the Catholic Church, the rise of what I believe would be considered the ancient church, he likes to call it, to the Greco-Romans, to the
even later to the Constantine and then after that to the Reformation, how what they believed affected how they lived out their faith.And so it is a pretty important thing to know what we believe about the end, you know.
And like, I mean, think about it in the most general sense, not even just about like how is prophecy going to play out, but like in the most general sense, like if you're a Unitarian and you believe that everybody makes it to heaven,
It's just many roads, right?Then you're going to be, you're not going to have a pretty, you're not going to have a lot of conviction.
You're not going to have a lot of conviction in your life because it really doesn't matter because you're just still going to end up where you, where you're destined to be anyways.And you know, I think that's a pretty sad.
you're robbing someone of a life in Christ.That person, you're robbing them the opportunity to have the Holy Spirit in them and walk with them through the life and experience that oneness with them.
So to me, that's a really basic example that just popped into my head just now.So I think that what we believe does really matter. I think that when we talk about the end times too, there's a lot of different opinions.
I jokingly said to you one time, I was like, hey, I think Revelation proves flat earth.
And you're like, oh yeah, how so?I was like, well, when we learn the dimensions of New Jerusalem, when it descends out of heaven,
there's no way that it can... Because the landmass size is bigger than the continental United States, based on the biblical... Dimensions.Measurements, yeah.
So if it's bigger than the footprint of the United States, and it goes up and out and across, it's a cube, right? and the ball of the earth is round or whatever, how can it sit without wobble?You know what I mean?
Like, it doesn't work on another model, right?And I was like half joking, because I'm, you know, like I've always said, I'm flat earth friendly, I'm not, I haven't jumped into the flat earth pond with both feet, I've got my toes in,
I listen to the arguments and I enjoy the conversation.It's something that is, I enjoy it.Like it's entertaining to me to talk about it.
And I wish I was really good friends with Elon because then I would just have this conversation with him and say, put me in the rocket and let's go as high as we can go.I want to see with my own eyes. You know what I mean?That's how I feel.
So anyways, I know people that aren't flat-earthers are gonna be like, oh my god, I can't believe he's saying that, just like you probably can't believe that I'm gonna not be overly critical of a mid-tribulational rapture as it's presented in this book.
Yeah.Sorry.Sorry.Yeah. Anyways, so that's what we're going to be talking about and that's going to be kind of the focus of the next several episodes.There's like what, eight or so chapters or whatever.
So, but our goal is we're going to read a chapter and then we're going to come back.We'll summary the chapter. and then we'll highlight the things that stood out to us about it.
So you'll, by proxy, get a nice summary of the book based on just our review of it.So is there anything you wanted to share about the... I highlighted a bunch of little spots on the intro myself.But... No, you lead, brother.You lead.All right.
I will say this, that... Am a little concerned about a mood we were talking about like what you believe in the end times how it affects you I The urgency of how close it could be.Some people will scoff at the dream that that guy had.
Oh, he had a dream.He's dementia, of course he's gonna have a dream, whatever.The Bible actually talks about in the last days there'll be scoffers, and they'll talk about how you know, where is this Jesus that you spoke about?
And I think that that sentiment is growing within Christian circles and within, you know, it's been a seed that was planted many a long time ago, centuries ago, some of them, and it's finally bearing fruit.
And the irony of it is that it's actually fulfilling prophecy about the last days.Because I think when Peter wrote that, in fact, I'm going to pull it up here.It's in 2 Peter 3 verses 3 and 4, he says,
There shall come in the last days scoffers walking after their own lusts and saying, where is the promise of his coming?For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation."That's 2 Peter 3, 3 and 4.
And I think that that's just It's amazing to me that Peter would have slipped that into his letter, his epistle.It wasn't by accident.It was absolutely prophetic, and it was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
It's very possible that we're living in the fulfillment of that verse today.Yeah.Because I see some... And there's also...
And this kind of ties in with currently what we're seeing with Christian nationalism and this whole Kingdom Now philosophy that you see with the NARs, the N-A-R. Like, okay, we're going to have to build the kingdom here.
We're going to have to bring the kingdom here.And then this is where it fits in with amillennialism as well, where the Catholics and the Orthodox believe that we will slowly take over everything.
And then once it's taken over, then Jesus will come back and he'll establish his throne.And so the notion is that slowly but surely Christians will just like take over the world and we will Christianize the entire planet.
But I gotta be honest with you, as I've read through the New Testament many times, I always walk away when I'm done, and it's the different, it's the opposite of that.
That there will be a faithful remnant that will cling to the Lord, that will proclaim Him, that many will fall away. And that there will be those that will call wrong right and right wrong.
And even in Second Timothy, where he talks about like in the last days, there'll be lovers of self and money and disobeying their parents and all these, it kind of outlines this whole like image of the last days.And I see all of that happening.
And all of that stuff points to the opposite of a slow just growing of the kingdom on earth.
And the other thing too is, and this might help people too, and this is something that I've thought on recently myself just in my long drives at work and things like that.I think that a proper perspective of what the kingdom is and what our role is.
The kingdom is not of this world.Jesus himself said that.My kingdom is not of this world.My kingdom is within you.And then he also said that he calls us to be ambassadors.
And the basic definition of an ambassador is you're someone who's living in a place that you don't.That isn't your home.It's not your residence.
So you're representing a nation that you live within a nation representing a different nation for the sake of the relationship there.And never once do ambassadors go and take over entire cities.
In fact, the first thing that happens in a really bad situation where it gets tense is they pull the ambassadors. They pull them out, which is really symbolic of a rapture, if you think about it.
Like when it gets to be really bad, they're gonna pull the ambassadors.
And I think that... So I think that's kind of like a hint of our posture as Christians here on earth that, yes, everything we do, like everything we do, we should try and bring glory to Jesus.
We should try and live our lives that would please Him and all that.
I don't think that it's gonna be the case where I'm slowly gonna... All my neighbors are gonna get saved, and then I'm gonna slowly... I'll run for the HOA and I'll... My HOA will become... And then someone will run for government.
Maybe, yeah, if you're Christian and you have that calling in your life, go for it, man.Be in politics, be a teacher, be in movies, be an actor, be a musician, whatever it is, for the glory of God. But keep in mind that we're still just ambassadors.
This is not our home.This is not our home.And Jesus tried to drill that into the heads of the disciples so much.So much.
And even when Jesus returns and sets up his Millennial Kingdom, it's not, this is still not our home because he's going to, at the end of that kingdom, there's going to be a great white throne judgment and he's going to destroy it.
and rebuild it, like everything's gonna be redone.So it still is not gonna be our home.After the fall in the garden, that's when it kicked off the necessity of everything being redone.
The fall in the garden was really the impetus that set everything else in motion.
And we're just looking at, we're going to look at the things that are going to be some really key things to notice about our culture and technology and just our world in light of scripture and see if we can piece those things together and kind of figure out where we might be on this timeline.
We're not gonna try and pinpoint the rapture.That's insane.Like I You just can't it's really hard to do that.And there's a reason why we shouldn't even try And people have for years.
Yeah, and I think that They call it fear porn, you know what I mean like the the media and just everything with I think I said that on the episode we did with Kimberly about gentle parenting.
Oh, Kimberly Edwards, yeah.
That's been the sense that I get when it's been happening more recently. I don't know what it's been for the last six months, cause I haven't been paying attention for six months plus, but everything, especially maybe this is a good point.
When the war in Israel happened, there was so much more of people talking about, um, the rapture is coming, you know, like prepare for it, prepare for it.
And for whatever reason, it just always struck me the way, not everybody's saying that, but there is a way that it was fear porn and it was unnecessarily riling people up, you know what I mean?
And maybe I'm misconstruing how people are coming off, but that's just, and maybe it was my own personal thing that I was just, you know,
over this kind of stuff of hearing people sensationalize stuff, but it always came off as, you know, and I think I said it in a crude way where it was like, you know, everyone, you know, is going to die.
Like even the saved ones, you know, like putting that, that idea of fear, even saying that and like reiterating the, the, the rapture, like, My parents are not old.They're not old, but they're older.And I don't want to think about them.
I know I'm going to see them again when they do go on, but I don't want to think about that.I don't want to think about me.There's the carnal part of me. Because I don't know.I don't know what it's gonna be like.
I know it's gonna be wonderful, and I know that I do wanna be with Jesus.I'm not saying that, but I'm saying there's a humanness that it's just... It's scary to think about.
And I don't like the way that people are just over saying this stuff, because I know... Even if they're not saying like, your whole family's gonna be gone, and stuff. That's what it puts in my head.
And I just want to say this because you were not saying this either when you were bringing up the fact about what your friend had said in this dream about the rapture being sooner than people think.We are not, you know, we're not giving time.
We never do that.Because you know what, every single person that's done that, has been wrong in the past.And I guess other than... Well, Jesus didn't say it.He specifically said, you will not know.
So I'm gonna take Jesus at his word that no one's gonna know what it is.But this is not to be fear porn, and we do not want to... Their intention is not to talking about the ambassador, and this is kind of scary.
There's gonna be stuff in this where we're talking about the signs that are gonna happen that's in the Bible.And the idea of being pulled away, ambassadors.I was thinking of Benghazi, because I was like, yeah, they messed that one up.
They don't always pull the ambassadors out in time.
Well, that's what Satan would do, right?Leave you there to get roasted.Yeah. That's what she did.
She did.Yeah.She left him there.Yeah.Um, but the whole point is to not be, sorry, I lost my train of thought.Yeah.But not to be fearful, not to be fear porn and to not, um, just because it, every day we're, we're getting closer to it.Right.And, um,
There's not this idea of escapism.Like there is still, because in the grand scheme of things, sooner than we think doesn't mean tomorrow.Maybe it does.Maybe it does.But you know what it could also mean?
100 years from now, because in God's timeline, like you said, he doesn't see time the way we do.He doesn't experience time.He did experience time, as we did when Jesus was incarnate.But he's long-suffering.He's patient.
So I just want to be very clear that we're not putting any dates when we get into this, and we do not want to turn this into some escapism fantasy that we get accused of, or to be fear porn or anything like that.
Yeah, no fear porn.In fact, the Bible tells us very clearly to not be afraid, to not fear.And to despair is a sin.Right, it is, that's right.
So based on that whole idea that I was talking about people mocking, and that sentiment that's growing in the church, I just wanted to read a little bit after in this just for a second, because I actually highlighted this.
It says, Jesus and his apostles warned repeatedly that such apostasy would precede Christ's coming, leading the world to worship an Antichrist before he appears.
As lawless behavior both inside and outside the church would increasingly blur the distinction between the lost and the redeemed, the spirit of Antichrist would serve to gather many false beliefs and carnal hopes of humanity into one, drawing them towards worshiping
this Antichrist.Corresponding with this lawlessness, the earth would groan with the expectation of the final revelation of the redeemed, resulting in an upheaval of nature with increasingly disastrous consequences both materially and socially."
So I think he's kind of like setting up there, that's in that little paragraph there.But one of the things that drew my attention to, and we've mentioned, we've alluded to this before, is this false great awakening that I see happening as well.
And it's really tied very closely with the MAGA movement.
Not that, I don't wanna like rag on the MAGA movement in any way right now, because like, I think if when you're given the choice right now, it's like, and that's a whole nother like, just personally, I'm weary of all this,
Let me, we'll go into this.There's a lot of people that are very popular right now that are. claiming Christian to be Christian.And some of them may be.I'm not the one to judge whether they are or they're not.
We are to judge the fruit of their lives, and that's to help.We like to be fruit inspectors.That's what we're told in Scripture, right?
And like I heard, like one of the popular ones right now is, which could be a very radical conversion if it's real, is Russell Brand.And, you know, the guy got baptized and he's baptizing other people.And I actually heard him on,
Tucker Carlson, and I will admit that there is a level of humility that he presents, but just like many young believers, this is why Paul wrote to Timothy.
He said that you need to be an elder, that you should not be quick to lay on hands, and you should be slow to put a person up in front of other people because they need to be tested and they need to be mature. Do you keep hearing that?
Yeah, I don't know what that is, but uh It's a your phone I don't think so Hold on I Think it might be my stomach It might be my stomach.It's pretty loud, sorry.It doesn't feel like it could be my stomach, but maybe it is.Anyways.Keep going, yeah.
No, it's weird. Where are these people?Are they really saved?Is Russell Brand really saved?Is Tucker Carlson really saved?I mean, Tucker Carlson says on his podcast that he's Episcopalian.Are these people really saved?Are they in the kingdom?
Or is it a setup?Or are they really not truly converted? And like I said, I don't want to be the judge of that.I don't want anyone to think I'm judging that person.
But is it a setup for this false Great Awakening where Christians are pulled into this thing like, oh, we've defeated communism, we've defeated the World Economic Forum, we've defeated the bad people, and now we're gonna have our day of a new Great Awakening.
You know, a golden age is what they like to call it and stuff. And if that's the case, then we know that that's not biblical because we know what the Bible tells us about the last days, what it's going to be like.
So I just, um, like there's a whole lot there that we can kind of, that I think it needs to be, um, we need to kind of shine a little bit of a light on in light of those things.
So that was a long, long way of saying there is deception that's happening regularly right now.And it's being pushed upon us like, you know, is,
And I think I messaged you on Signal, I left you a long voice message on Signal a while ago about like Candace Owens and Sean Ryan and Tucker Carlson and Russell Brand and some of these people that are being really pushed out as the new voice of Christianity to the conservative world in particular.
And they're asking a lot of the right questions, they're asking a lot of the questions that they should be asking. And there's a lot there to say, yeah, why wouldn't they?
But then there's other things that are... I don't know if it's just my discernment or what, but something's off.Something's off and I can't quite put my finger on it.Does that make sense?
I don't know if anyone listening feels the same way or if they're just like he's off his rocker, he needs to stay on a break.Why did he come back?Yeah.
Anyways, so I would say if you want to continue along with us listening to this, go get the book from Aaron.You can buy it on Amazon.And this will help him as well because this is his main way that he provides for himself.And I think...
he may be, I don't know if he is, but he may be going to India for a while to do ministry.So this will really help him for that.I would like to be able to help him.So if you want to get the book, just buy it.I think it's like 10 bucks on Amazon.
Yeah, it's not very expensive.But everything helps.And it's thick.It's thorough too.
It's 300 pages for 10, 15 bucks.
And it's well written, I would say.He's very good.Yeah.It is self-produced, but it's not like one of those typical self-produced books. That we've all read.Yeah, yeah.
So anyways, that's kind of like what we're looking at doing and hopefully as we kind of peruse through this book and go chapter by chapter, we're gonna kind of learn how to unpack the prophecies of the Old Testament and where they fit in with the New Testament and then identify the ones that have yet to be fulfilled.
And I think that'll be really fun.I think it'll be encouraging, edifying. There is a promise in the book of Revelation. at the beginning of the book, that anyone who takes heed to the words of that book will receive a blessing.
So let's get blessed, y'all.Yeah.Let's get blessed.Why not, right?I love it.Yeah.So, man, dude, we're rusty.And I just realized after doing an hour and 10 minutes of the podcast, we never did our sit back, drink a coffee or whatever.What is it?
Sit back, have a coffee and enjoy?
Grab a coffee.Enjoy.Enjoy.You know what I also realized we didn't do?Did you know?Oh man.I was, I had been thinking.I tell you what.Can I just say it's been really weird.Yeah.
I've been more in sync with, I've been having so many more of these synchronicities with people where it's like we're saying stuff right when I'm thinking something, when someone else is saying it and then someone else says it or someone else, I,
I say something that they're thinking, but yeah, I was thinking of that too, right before you said that we hadn't done the intro.
Yeah.So we're rusty.We got to give us a break.Yeah.We got to look, it's been a while since we've been on the bike and we're riding tandem.Yeah.
So it's even that much more hard to get back into the sink of things, but we will, we'll get, we'll get it.And maybe what I'll do is I'll just put the intro on the very front end.How's that?Yeah.Just start with the music.
If you listened all the way through, then you know, We didn't know what we were doing, but to the people who don't listen all the way and miss out on the good stuff.They have to listen to the end.
They have, yeah.They've got to listen to the end.And by the way, we're at KM Design Studios in beautiful downtown Leesburg.
And I think this might be our new home for a little while until we can find another studio like with someplace that... That was one thing that you forgot.
You'd mentioned it before, but during the remodel,
We lost our studio.You had been saying it for, you know, a while, but yeah.
Yeah.And we miss it.I miss it because I liked being able to be done and edit it and then just go up to bed.Yeah.Not have to drive 20 minutes to get home.Yeah.So yeah.Anyways. Yeah, well, thanks for listening, guys.
And we're gonna record again soon, and we'll get the next one out with chapter one.So get the book.We'll put a link to purchase this on Amazon.
I just encourage you to just go listen, for anything, just to support your brother, Aaron, but also read it and follow along.It's one of those situations.So, well, we will catch you next time on All Out War.I love you.
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