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Podcast: Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Description: Every week Chris Hayes asks the big questions that keep him up at night. How do we make sense of this unprecedented moment in world history? Why is this (all) happening?

This podcast starts to answer these questions. Writers, experts, and thinkers who are also trying to get to the bottom of them join Chris to break it all down and help him get a better night’s rest. “Why is this Happening?” is presented by MSNBC and NBCNews Think.

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What Happens When Americans Get $1,000 a Month Unconditional Cash Transfers? with Elizabeth Rhodes and David Broockman with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-12-24
Duration: 00:44:35
Shownotes: What are the effects when you give $1,000 a month in unconditional cash transfers to low-income Americans for three years? Our guests this week studied

the behavioral and political outcomes of this in a 3,000-person study. Elizabeth Rhodes is the research director for the Unconditional Cash Study at OpenResearch, a nonprofit research lab founded by OpenAI founder Sam Altman. David Broockman is an associate professor of political science at the University of California, Berkeley and worked as the principal investigator supporting the unconditional cash study. Together, they co-authored, along with others, a paper: "The Causal Effects of Income on Political Attitudes and Behavior: A Randomized Field Experiment.” Rhodes and Broockman join WITHpod to discuss some of the most surprising finds, why receiving cash overwhelmingly didn’t change people’s political leanings, how the money changed people’s attitudes about work and more.

“The Barn: The Secret History of a Murder in Mississippi” with Wright Thompson with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-12-17
Duration: 00:51:06
Shownotes: The 1955 murder of Emmett Till, a 14-year-old Black boy who was abducted and lynched in Mississippi, is one of the most infamous crimes in

American history. Yet, decades later, so much of what happened to Till is still widely unknown. Our guest this week points out that this is no accident. Wright Thompson is a senior writer for ESPN and is the author of several books including his latest, “The Barn: The Secret History of a Murder in Mississippi,” which is the subject of this week’s conversation. Thompson’s family farm is 23 miles from the site of Till’s murder, and yet he didn’t learn about some of the most shocking details until becoming an adult. Thompson joins to discuss what he uncovered while writing the book, his familial connection to the story and the reckoning that must happen if we are to heal one of the country’s original sins.

How Democratic Backsliding Happens with Steve Levitsky with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-12-10
Duration: 00:52:23
Shownotes: We’re in strange times. In the U.S., we’re finding ourselves in a situation in which the possibility of genuine democratic retrenchment and some version of

presidential authoritarian dictatorship is a real possibility. There’s a lot to consider as the liberal democracy we’ve become accustomed to could erode right before our eyes in the near future. Steve Levitsky is a professor of government at Harvard and serves as the director of the David Rockefeller Center for Latin American Studies. Levitsky is also a New York Times bestselling author of numerous books including, “How Democracies Die” and “Tyranny of the Minority: Why American Democracy Reached the Breaking Point,” which he co-authored with Daniel Ziblatt. He joins WITHpod to discuss entering into a new era, the uncertainty of this moment, the process by which a democracy might backslide into something that's less democratic and resisting the erosion.

Chris is the guest this week! with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-12-03
Duration: 00:57:06
Shownotes: There’s a lot to consider about what Trump 2.0 portends for the future of our country, lives and democracy. A lot of questions remain. And

perhaps maybe now more than ever, it’s all been keeping Chris up really late at night, like so many of you. Chris and WITHpod producer Doni Holloway unpack post-election thoughts and discuss moving forward. More information about Chris' latest book, "The Siren's Call: How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource" + info about the book tour here.

Conservatism in the Trump 2.0 Years with McKay Coppins with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-11-26
Duration: 00:54:41
Shownotes: It’s a given that any political party is going to have ideological factions around different issues. But what happens when the ostensible leader of a

party has no real ideology? It’s a big question to consider in the wake of Donald Trump’s re-election. Our guest this week has followed the inherent tensions, fissures and changes within the Republican Party. McKay Coppins is a staff writer at The Atlantic, an MSNBC contributor, and New York Times bestselling author of “Romney: A Reckoning.” He joins WITHpod to discuss his view of what conservatism is now at an ideological level, the rife contradictions amongst conservatives in this moment and what the Trump 2.0 years could mean for growing party incoherence.

The Role of the Press in This Moment with Matt Pearce with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-11-19
Duration: 00:55:38
Summary: In this episode of "Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast," Chris Hayes interviews journalist Matt Pearce to discuss the challenges facing modern journalism

amid a rapidly changing media landscape. Pearce emphasizes the erosion of trust and the impact of algorithm-driven content consumption, which complicates the relationship between the media and consumers. The episode covers issues like the merging of journalism with entertainment, the market pressures affecting investigative reporting, and the monopoly of tech giants over digital advertising. Ultimately, Pearce advocates for a return to ethical journalism and the need for antitrust actions to support diverse media outlets and genuine reporting.

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Shownotes: The information environment is rapidly changing. And with more media sources at our disposal than ever before, we’re constantly navigating between online and IRL, or

in real life spaces. How does that affect our understanding of the world around us, particularly in this unprecedented moment? Our guest this week has spent a lot of time thinking and writing about this. Matt Pearce is a journalist and serves as the president of Media Guild of the West, which represents unionized journalists in Southern California, Arizona and Texas. Pearce is also a former reporter for the Los Angeles Times and writes own Substack, which you can find at mattdpearce.substack.com. He joins WITHpod to discuss what’s happened to the press, its role post the 2024 election and more.

Where Do We Go From Here? with Anna Galland with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-11-12
Duration: 00:59:14
Summary: In this episode of 'Why Is This Happening?', Chris Hayes and Anna Galland discuss the political landscape following Donald Trump's reelection, emphasizing the need for

a resilient progressive movement. Galland calls for humility in understanding the election results, reflecting on complexities of voter behavior and the importance of community solidarity. The episode highlights the value of both large mobilizations and everyday coalition-building, driven by shared aspirations for a multiracial democracy. Additionally, it addresses the role of social media in organizing, the dual nature of activism's speed, and the significance of maintaining strong vision and listening in pro-democracy movements.

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Shownotes: Whew, the past few days have been a lot. Like you probably, Chris hasn’t slept much this past week. There’s a lot to process given

that Donald Trump is now president-elect… again. Our guest this week, who has worked as an organizer throughout numerous political ups and downs, points out that we “must not neglect the work of standing up right now to fight back.” Anna Galland is the former executive director of MoveOn Civic Action from 2012 to 2019. She now works with a range of national pro-democracy organizations, coalitions, and leaders. Galland also teaches about democracy renewal & social movements at Northwestern University. She joins WITHpod to help us take stock of this moment, what the progressive movement can do right now, reasons for hope (we could use it, right?) and more.

“Polarized by Degrees” with Matt Grossmann and Dave Hopkins with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-11-05
Duration: 00:56:18
Summary: In this episode of "Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast," Chris Hayes discusses with political scientists Matt Grossmann and Dave Hopkins the significant

polarization in American politics based on educational attainment. They explore how voters with college degrees increasingly lean Democratic while those without have shifted towards the Republican Party. The conversation delves into issues of cultural elitism, populist resentment, and the transformations in voter coalitions, highlighting the implications of these shifts for both parties amidst changing societal values and demographics.

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Shownotes: A lot of things will really change over the course of this week, no matter the election outcome. And with that, we were thinking it

would be good to share a conversation that would be illuminating regardless of what happens. Over the past few decades, American society has experienced seismic changes. One of the trends we have seen is a rightward shift towards the Republican Party among voters without a four-year college degree and a pro democratic center-left shift of voters who have a four-year college degree. There’s a lot to unpack about what has animated these changes. Matt Grossmann is the director of the Institute for Public Policy and Social Research and a professor of political science at Michigan State University. Dave Hopkins is a political scientist at Boston College. Grossmann and Hopkins are the co-authors of “Polarized by Degrees: How the Diploma Divide and the Culture War Transformed American Politics.” They join WITHpod to discuss the origin of these trends, the effects on both major parties and more.

Talking Harris, Hawaii and More with Senator Brian Schatz with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-10-29
Duration: 00:48:49
Summary: In this episode, Senator Brian Schatz discusses Hawaii's unique political and cultural landscape, focusing on representing an often-overlooked state. He explores challenges facing Democrats in

the upcoming elections, emphasizing Kamala Harris's effective approach against Trump. Schatz addresses issues including Hawaii's urgent housing crisis, the disconnect between economic performance and public sentiment, and the need for legislative support for affordable housing. He advocates for innovative development strategies that align with environmental conservation amidst climate change challenges. Schatz reflects on the importance of bipartisan solutions and the potential shifts in political dynamics post-Trump.

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Shownotes: Well, we’re in the final stretch of the election. And as we consider so much that is at stake, it’s a great treat to have

one of Chris’ favorite people to talk politics. There’s a lot to discuss, including the Senate battlefield for Democrats and why it can be so hard to get things done in the political world. Our guest this week represents one of the most unique states in the union. Senator Brian Schatz is a U.S. Senator from Hawaii and serves the chair of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs. He joins WITHpod to discuss Vice President Harris, affordable housing concerns in the Aloha state, effects of climate change in his home state, his favorite part of the job, why he says Trump could be vanquished and more.

The Rise of The Latino Far Right with Paola Ramos with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-10-22
Duration: 00:54:42
Summary: In this episode of 'Why Is This Happening?', Chris Hayes converses with Paola Ramos about the rising support of Latino voters for the far-right, particularly

in the context of Donald Trump's influence. Despite the Republican Party's racist and inflammatory rhetoric against immigrants, Trump notably increased his Latino voter support in 2020. The discussion highlights the complexities behind this shift, including emotional resonance linked to personal experiences, the unique political context in Miami, the impact of trauma and gender dynamics, and the growing role of evangelicalism within Latino communities. As immigration policy remains a divisive issue, the episode explores the implications of these trends for the future of American politics.

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Shownotes: Donald Trump and the Republican Party have made significant inroads among Latino voters. At the same time, vitriolic ads are continually being released that feature

racist and demagogic depictions of immigrants, especially Latino ones. And, if you remember, despite Trump’s relentless anti-immigrant rhetoric, he won a higher percentage of the Latino vote in 2020 than he did in 2016. With less than 20 days to go until Election Day, immigration policy continues to be front and center as one of the most polarizing issues this year. What is driving the rise in far-right sentiment among Latinos? Paola Ramos is an award-winning journalist and an author. Her latest is titled, “Defectors: Defectors: The Rise of the Latino Far Right and What It Means for America.” She’s also a contributor for MSNBC and Telemundo. She joins WITHpod to discuss forces spearheading Latino support of far-right politics, the effects of radicalization and more.

Harris’ Media Blitz and Strategy with Symone Sanders-Townsend with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-10-15
Duration: 00:54:11
Summary: In this episode of 'Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast,' Chris Hayes and Symone Sanders-Townsend discuss Vice President Kamala Harris's media strategy as

the election approaches. They analyze the rationale behind media requests and the selection of interviewers, emphasizing the importance of demographic targeting and the influence of journalist rapport. The conversation addresses the challenges Harris faces in maintaining her dual role as vice president while campaigning, and critiques the trend of adversarial questioning in interviews. Additionally, Sanders-Townsend highlights the necessity of authentic communication, strategic interview preparation, and the complexities of navigating policy commitments in the political arena during an election cycle.

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Shownotes: With just a few weeks until the election, you’ve probably noticed that Vice President Harris has been doing a lot of media. How does she

decide which outlets to give interviews to? What does the process look like behind the scenes? Lucky for us, we have the perfect guest to unpack the ins and outs of campaign press strategy, particularly in an election as consequential as this one. Symone Sanders-Townsend is co-host of “The Weekend” on MSNBC, a democratic strategist, and the author of “No, You Shut Up.” She also served as a former senior advisor to Vice President Harris. She joins WITHpod to discuss how campaign political media strategy is crafted and her experience working closely with VP Harris. And, if you love hearing Symone in conversation as much as we did, you’re in luck. As a bonus for MSNBC Premium subscribers, we’re sharing a bonus episode with Symone this Friday, 10/18, where we talk all about her trajectory, how she became Symone Sanders-Townsend and more. Subscribe to MSNBC Premium for that bonus and other special offerings from MSNBC Audio.

Listen to “Kamala: Next in Line” with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-10-09
Duration: 00:10:25
Summary: In this episode entitled "Kamala: Next in Line," hosted by Chris Hayes, the focus is on Vice President Kamala Harris’s political ascent. The discussion highlights

her initial campaign challenges, including the recruitment of campaign manager Rebecca Prozen and the significance of public perception amidst low polling figures. Despite fierce opposition and negative attacks related to her past, Harris's strategic debate performances and determination led her to secure a place in the runoff for District Attorney of San Francisco in 2003. This analysis provides insights into the dynamics of local politics and Harris’s resilience in a competitive environment.

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Shownotes: Election Day is around the corner and Vice President Kamala Harris could become the first woman, first Black woman, and first South-Asian to sit in

the Oval Office. In light of this moment, we’re resharing our 2020 series “Kamala: Next in Line,” from MSNBC and Wondery. Hosted by Joy Reid, "Next In Line" is an intimate and immersive look into what drives Harris, what her critics say about her, and how she arrived at this historic moment.This is a special program for our MSNBC Premium subscribers. Listen to an excerpt from the first episode here. And to download the full series, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. You’ll find the series in the How to Win feed. Plus, as a subscriber, you’ll get all MSNBC original podcasts ad-free, along with bonus exciting content from Prosecuting Donald Trump, Rachel Maddow, and more. Thanks for listening and subscribing!

Reflecting on October 7th with Amir Tibon with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-10-08
Duration: 00:57:37
Summary: In this episode, Chris Hayes reflects on the one-year anniversary of the October 7th attacks by Hamas on Israel, discussing the significant human toll with

Amir Tibon. Tibon shares personal stories of loss, resilience, and the harsh realities in Gaza, highlighting the need for accountability from the Israeli government. The conversation delves into the political dynamics both in Israel and Gaza, reflecting on the destructive consequences of the recent conflict and the crucial need for a post-military strategy. The necessity of rebuilding Gaza is emphasized to prevent ongoing cycles of violence, alongside the importance of coexistence and political leadership in shaping future peace efforts.

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Shownotes: It’s been one year since the devastating October 7th attacks by Hamas into Israel. It’s a truly awful anniversary to observe for numerous reasons. In

the past year, there’s been immeasurable horror, violence, destruction and death. It is estimated that at least 40,000 people have died in Gaza and there are still over a hundred hostages. Our guest this week survived the attacks on October 7th and the chaos that ensued. Amir Tibon is an Israeli journalist working for Haaretz Newspaper and is the author of a newly published book titled "The Gates of Gaza: A Story of Betrayal, Survival, and Hope in Israel's Borderlands.” He joins WITHpod to discuss what has transpired over the last year, internal politics in Gaza now, the U.S. response and what he hopes will happen in the future.

Crafting a Bipartisan Miracle with Chris Murphy with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-10-01
Duration: 00:55:56
Summary: In this episode of "Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast," Senator Chris Murphy discusses recent bipartisan negotiations regarding U.S. immigration policy, emphasizing the

urgency for reform in response to rising border crossings. Murphy reveals strategies for uniting Democrats and Republicans, notably linking Ukraine aid to immigration discussions. He also highlights challenges in the U.S. asylum system, stressing the need for efficient processing of claims. Further, Murphy addresses the importance of rethinking immigration pathways for temporary workers and the social disconnection that contributes to societal issues, ultimately calling for deeper engagement with constituents' grievances in politics.

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Shownotes: Comprehensive border and immigration reform has eluded policymakers in the U.S. for decades. As global turmoil and conflict grows, questions and concerns still remain about

the economic, security, and humanitarian justification and rationale for immigrants, asylum seekers and refugees seeking entry into the U.S. Vitriolic rhetoric, which has largely impeded meaningful progress, has only intensified in the months leading up to one of the most consequential elections in history. In the midst of all of this, somewhat of a miracle has materialized: bipartisan collaboration. Our guest this week served as the chief negotiator of a border bill that was negotiated between Senate Democrats and Senate Republicans. Democratic Senator Chris Murphy is the junior U.S. Senator for Connecticut and is a member of the Foreign Relations Committee. He joins WITHpod to discuss what has historically hindered a significant revamp of American immigration policy, how he was able to help broker conservative partnership, his concerns about “unaccountable elites, the fall of American neoliberalism and more.

The Coalition of the Weird with Dave Weigel with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-09-24
Duration: 00:56:56
Summary: In this episode of "Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast," Chris Hayes and Dave Weigel analyze the emergence of a coalition in the

Republican Party led by Donald Trump, which includes unconventional figures like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and JD Vance. This coalition targets a 'weird vote' comprised of contrarians and conspiracy theorists, signaling a significant ideological shift. The hosts discuss the implications of a low-trust environment where skepticism towards mainstream institutions has flourished, allowing Trump to resonate with voters who feel alienated by traditional politics.

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Shownotes: We’re getting closer and closer to the election. And a lot of weird stuff has been happening. Our guest this week points out that Trump

has been going “all in” for the “weird vote,” by choosing JD Vance as his running mate and elevating figures like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Dave Weigel covers politics and writes the “Americana” newsletter for Semafor. He’s written about how the Trump-Vance coalition has aimed to cobble together contrarians, dissidents, conspiracy theorists and people who are distrustful of the so-called establishment into a majority coalition. Weigel joins WITHpod to discuss paranoid-esque low trust thinking at the core of the Republican Party base, Trump elevating figures from niche anti-establishment circles and what this all means in such a contentious election. Chris’ latest book, “The Siren's Call: How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource,” is now available for preorder. Read about it and preorder by visiting sirenscallbook.com.

The Threat of Project 2025 on Climate with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-09-17
Duration: 00:43:35
Shownotes: This week’s episode is a bit of a crossover. We’re sharing the fourth and final episode of MSNBC’s “The Threat of Project 2025” special series

for the How to Win podcast. In this episode, Chris speaks with Grist climate reporter Zoya Teirstein for her take on Project 2025’s impact on climate and the environment, especially in communities already suffering from climate-related catastrophes. Then, Dr. Vernon Morris, a professor of chemistry and atmospheric sciences at Arizona State University, shares his experience working with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the important work at stake should NOAA be dismantled by this conservative agenda.

MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-09-12
Duration: 01:47:00
Shownotes: We’re thrilled to share a mashup of our MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event that we recently held at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. The whole

day was a celebration of you, our viewers and listeners. It was the first of its kind in-person, interactive experience. We so enjoyed meeting so many of you. But if you couldn’t join us in person, you’re in luck – we’re sharing key conversations in this episode. For more, be sure to check out our TV special airing Saturday, September 14th at 9 p.m. ET. For your reference, here are timecodes for the sessions included here:Claire McCaskill, Jen Psaki, and Andrea Mitchell 0:01:30-0:31:23Chris Hayes & Kate Shaw 0:31:36-0:51:20Andrew Weissmann & Ari Melber 0:51:25-1:12:53Rachel Maddow & Lawrence O’Donnell 1:13:13-1:45:45

Building a New South with Anderson Clayton with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-09-10
Duration: 00:44:08
Shownotes: North Carolina is one of the most interesting swing states in this election. Democrats have not won the Tar Heel state at the presidential level

since 2008 when Barack Obama won it. It was a close race in 2020 and recent polling has shown Harris and Trump neck and neck in the state. There’s a lot to unpack about what’s going on. Anderson Clayton is the chair of the North Carolina Democratic Party. Elected at 25 years old, she is the youngest chair of a state Democratic Party in the U.S. Clayton joins WITHpod to discuss her political trajectory, the state of North Carolina politics, key issues including gerrymandering, her experience at the DNC and more.

The Biden Miracle with Jay Turner with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-09-03
Duration: 00:57:00
Shownotes: During this year’s DNC, President Biden reflected on numerous accomplishments and discussed his track record. One of the signature pieces of legislation of the Biden

presidency, and of Democrats in this era, is the Inflation Reduction Act, also known as the IRA. This August marked the 2-year anniversary of the landmark federal law. Our guest this week teamed up with his students to track the cumulative effects of the implementation of the IRA. Jay Turner is the Wiliam R. Kenan, Jr. Professor of Environmental Studies at Wellesley College. He’s also a historian, author on U.S. environmental politics and wrote “Charged: A History of Batteries and Lessons for a Clean Energy Future.” He joins WITHpod to discuss progress made, developments in batteries and electric energy sources, possible paths forward to reach ambitious goals and more.

Recapping an Electric DNC with Alex Wagner with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-08-27
Duration: 00:45:45
Shownotes: The Democratic national convention was a whole vibe this year. History was made during the electric four-day convention, which culminated with Vice President Harris accepting

the Democratic Party’s nomination, the first black woman and person of South Asian decent to do so. Lucky for us, our own Alex Wagner, host of “Alex Wagner Tonight” on MSNBC, joined us fresh off her flight from Chicago to unpack what the “whirlwind” experience was like. Wagner also discusses the people who were there and what they mean for the party, areas of possible trouble or friction ahead that may not have been evident on TV and more.

What Would a Fair Society Look Like? with Daniel Chandler with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-08-20
Duration: 00:50:35
Shownotes: Could the answer to building a more just society lie in 50-year-old ideas? Our guest this week points to the ideas of John Rawls, one

of the greatest political philosophers, as a blueprint of sorts for building a more equitable society. Daniel Chandler is the research director of the Programme on Cohesive Capitalism at the London School of Economics. He’s also an economist, philosopher and author of “Free and Equal: A Manifesto for a Just Society.” He joins WITHpod to discuss how we might overcome some of the most devastating and escalating present day crises, what adopting Rawls’ liberal political framework could look like and more.

The Rise of Kamala Harris with Heather McGhee with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-08-13
Duration: 00:48:29
Shownotes: Chris just got back from vacation. It just so happened that he was way during one of the most remarkable periods in American presidential political

history. There’s a lot to unpack with our guest this week. Heather McGhee is a New York Times bestselling author of “The Sum of Us” and the board chair at Color of Change, the nation’s largest online racial justice group. She joins WITHpod to discuss the most seismic recent political developments, vibes within the Democratic Party and more.

Book Bans with Dave Eggers with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-08-06
Duration: 00:48:56
Shownotes: We’ve seen a wave of campaigns in school districts and municipalities across the country to ban literary works over the past few years. One instance

of this is the subject of MSNBC Films’ "To Be Destroyed," the latest installment of "The Turning Point" documentary series from Executive Producer Trevor Noah. The feature documentary explores a South Dakota community's fight against book banning after five books – including one by best-selling author Dave Eggers – were pulled from the shelves. Eggers joins WITHpod to discuss how he views his role as a writer in this era, the efforts to ban books, why and where they’re happening and the reactionary moment that we’re in.

“When the Clock Broke” with John Ganz with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-07-30
Duration: 00:57:01
Shownotes: There’s a lot of unprecedented things going on nowadays. And with everything going on, it can be tempting to distort the moment we’re in and

to view things as totally new and completely abrupt. Our guest this week has written about the source of historical continuity, particularly in the 1990s, that has brought us to our current moment. John Ganz is the author of “When the Clock Broke: Con Men, Conspiracists, and How America Cracked Up in the Early 1990s.” He joins WITHpod to discuss his thesis on modern conservatism, the placid politics of the 90s, inflection points since then and more.

“The Big Dig” with Ian Coss with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-07-23
Duration: 00:55:04
Shownotes: Why does it seem so hard to build big things nowadays? Our guest this week points out that no one project embodies that cynicism quite

like Boston’s Big Dig. Boston’s Central Artery/Tunnel Project, commonly known as the Big Dig, was the most complex and technically challenging highway project in American history. Ian Coss is host and creator of “The Big Dig” podcast, produced by GBH, which unpacks why the endeavor was so difficult and what it represented more broadly about ambitious efforts like it. He joins WITHpod to discuss lessons learned from the project, his storytelling process and why big infrastructure projects so often fail.

What’s Next for Biden? with Jamelle Bouie with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-07-16
Duration: 00:52:44
Shownotes: The Democratic Party coalition is a complicated one to say the least. A growing number of Democrats have called on President Joe Biden to withdraw

from the 2024 presidential election in recent weeks. Those encouraging him to step aside have cited concerns about his fitness for office and ability to win reelection. Jamelle Bouie is a New York Times opinion columnist and is a co-host of the Unclear and Present Danger podcast. He joins WITHpod to discuss the lack of mechanisms to force an incumbent president to withdraw from the race, the mostly unprecedented set of circumstances surrounding all of this, the case for and against Vice President Kamala Harris as a replacement Democratic nominee. Note that this conversation was recorded on Friday, July 12th before the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump at a campaign event in Pennsylvania.

SCOTUS Doing Its Worst - Strict Scrutiny Crossover with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-07-09
Duration: 01:02:57
Shownotes: Another year, another pretty wild Supreme Court term. SCOTUS recently ended its term with a number of big decisions including ruling that former president Donald

Trump is immune from prosecution for his “official acts” in office. And it also overturned the Chevron doctrine, reversing a 40-year-old precedent that afforded federal agencies a degree of discretion in interpreting ambiguous laws. As always, there’s a lot to unpack and we’re excited to share our third crossover episode with the hosts of the Strict Scrutiny podcast, Chris’ wife Kate Shaw, and her co-hosts Melissa Murray and Leah Litman. They join to discuss some of the most alarming actions from the super conservative majority of the Court, attacks on government agencies and more.

The End of Libraries as We Know Them? with Brewster Kahle and Kyle Courtney with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-07-02
Duration: 00:57:40
Shownotes: Could the future of libraries as we’ve known them be completely different? Our guests this week say so. Megapublishers are suing the Internet Archive, perhaps

best known for its Wayback Machine, to redefine e-books as legally different from paper books. A difference in how they are classified would mean sweeping changes for the way libraries operate. Brewster Kahle is a digital librarian at the Internet Archive. Kyle Courtney is a lawyer, librarian, director of copyright and information policy for Harvard Library. He's the co-founder of Library Futures, which aims to empower the digital future for America's libraries. They join to discuss what’s animating the lawsuit, information as a public good and the consequences should the publishers ultimately prevail.

WTH is Project 2025? with Thomas Zimmer with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-06-25
Duration: 01:01:05
Shownotes: Project 2025, also known as the Presidential Transition Project, is a collection of policy proposals from The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. The group’s

920-page “Mandate for Leadership” is an extremely granular playbook that includes sweeping policy changes aimed at reshaping and dismantling American government. It’s pretty alarming. With so much at stake, we thought it would be good to do a deep dive into what the document contains and what it could portend for a possible Trump second term. Thomas Zimmer is a historian at Georgetown University. He’s studied and written about Project 2025 extensively, including for his Democracy Americana newsletter on Substack. Zimmerman is also the host of the “Is This Democracy?” podcast. He joins WITHpod to discuss what Project 2025 proponents aim to accomplish, how the plans within the mandate reflect broader American right ideology and more.To learn more about the MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event and to get tickets, visit: msnbc.com/DEMOCRACY2024

Criminal Justice, Faith and Politics with Rep. Jasmine Crockett with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-06-18
Duration: 00:54:44
Shownotes: Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett is one of the most interesting figures in Congress. You may have been introduced to her in recent weeks following a

House committee during which Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene insulted her appearance. The verbal spat between the two took the internet by storm and became a viral moment. But that exchange, and her clapback, is only one part of her story as a rising star within the Democratic Party. She joins WITHpod to discuss the impetus for her political work, how her faith keeps her grounded in the often vitriolic world of politics, serving as a criminal justice advocate and more.

The Stakes for Antitrust with Timothy Wu with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-06-11
Duration: 00:44:33
Shownotes: We’re sharing another episode in our WITHpod 2024: The Stakes series, in which we choose specific areas of policy and talk to an expert about

Trump and Biden’s records on the topic. We couldn’t think of a better person than our guest this week to help unpack the two candidates’ stances on antitrust. Timothy Wu is the Julius Silver professor of law, science and technology at Columbia University. He’s known as the "architect" of the Biden administration's competition and antitrust policies. Wu joins WITHpod to discuss Trump and Biden’s different views on corporate power, the current antitrust landscape, major mergers being challenged this year and more.

Winning Elections in the Disinformation Age with Sasha Issenberg with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-06-04
Duration: 00:50:33
Shownotes: One of the most pressing challenges for candidates and campaigns today is how to win in a world where disinformation is so pervasive. Why is

the information environment in this election year so hard to parse? Our guest this week has written about the keys to winning campaigns for more than a decade. Sasha Issenberg is a journalist and author of numerous books including his latest, “The Lie Detectives: In Search of a Playbook for Winning Elections in the Disinformation Age.” He joins WITHpod to discuss the often insidious nature of disinformation, work to curtail its spread, how we can make sense of a world awash in lies and more.

Reimagining Leadership & Protests with Eddie S. Glaude Jr. with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-05-28
Duration: 00:53:21
Shownotes: Its been four years since the murder of George Floyd at the hands Minneapolis police officers and the unrest that was unleashed in the wake

of his death. And now we’re in a moment where another global protest movement is flourishing in denouncement of the Israeli war in Gaza. This week, we’re taking a look at the historical lineage and efficacy of protests, as well as ways we might rethink mobilization. Our guest this week has spent decades researching and writing about the dynamic nature and effectiveness of social movements. Eddie S. Glaude Jr. is the James S. McDonnell distinguished professor of African American studies at Princeton University and is the author of numerous books including his latest, “We Are the Leaders We Have Been Looking For.” Glaude joins WITHpod to discuss inflection points in historical and contemporary mass movements, reaction to recent protests on college campuses, why he says we must avoid “outsourcing” change and more.

The Stakes for Climate and Energy with David Roberts with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-05-21
Duration: 00:52:07
Shownotes: We’re back with another episode of our WITHpod 2024: The Stakes series, in which we choose specific areas of policy and talk to an expert

about Trump and Biden’s records on the topic. This week, we’re discussing what’s at stake for an area of top salience: climate and energy. There’s a lot to unpack. David Roberts is the founder of the Volts podcast, newsletter and community. He joins WITHpod to discuss the Biden administration’s record action on climate, rollbacks that would be likely during a second Trump term, why this moment is such an inflection point and more.

Resisting The Right-Wing Attack on Democracy with Ari Berman with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-05-14
Duration: 00:59:43
Shownotes: This week, we’re sharing a recording of an event hosted at the Center for Brooklyn History where Chris interviewed author Ari Berman. Berman is the

national voting rights correspondent for Mother Jones and has written numerous books including his latest, “Minority Rule: The Right-Wing Attack on the Will of the People—and the Fight to Resist It,” which is the subject of this conversation. They discuss parallels between founding fathers’ ideologies and contemporary figures, threats to our democracy and the movement to counter regressive efforts.

The Stakes for Reproductive Rights with Jessica Valenti with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-05-07
Duration: 00:52:50
Shownotes: We’re sharing another episode in our WITHpod 2024: The Stakes series, in which we choose specific areas of policy and talk to an expert about

Trump and Biden’s records on the topic. This week, we’re discussing the seismic changes to reproductive rights over the past few years and both candidates’ stances. Jessica Valenti is an author and the founder of abortioneveryday.com. She joins WITHpod to discuss Trump creating the conditions for Roe v. Wade to be overturned during Biden’s term and what the overturning of it has meant, the status of abortion laws across states, why she feels hormonal birth control will be taken away from teenagers and more.

Inside The Trump Courtroom with Lisa Rubin with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-04-30
Duration: 00:52:53
Shownotes: If you’ve been following the news at all, you’re aware that former president Donald Trump is on trial in a New York criminal court and

is facing 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. And there’s a lot to unpack. Our guest this week has been in the courthouse for this criminal trial and has been closely following the ins and outs of the case. Lisa Rubin is the MSNBC legal correspondent and a former litigator. She joins WITHpod to discuss the backstory of the trial, flaws in the legal system, how she says Trump has abused it, key figures and more.

This Moment in Tech with Meredith Whittaker with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-04-23
Duration: 00:55:41
Shownotes: It’s been a wild last year or so in tech. We’ve seen a marked rise in the development of artificial intelligence, large language models and

prolific growth of augmented reality systems. At the same time, it can feel like we’re moving backwards as concerns continue to rise about user privacy and the methods by which personal data is collected and monetized. Our guest this week points out that protecting privacy requires tech companies to ditch traditional business models that monetize user surveillance. Meredith Whittaker is president of Signal App and serves as the chief advisor for the AI Now Institute. She joins WITHpod to discuss the rise of big tech, the trajectory of the internet from being more commercialized to open, concerns about tech’s role in American democracy, her thoughts on proposed TikTok bans and more.

The Stakes of Tax Policy with Kimberly Clausing with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-04-16
Duration: 00:39:12
Shownotes: We’re thrilled to share the second episode in our WITHpod 2024: The Stakes series, in which we choose specific areas of policy and talk to

an expert about Trump and Biden’s records on the topic. This week, we discuss the candidates’ stances and records on one of the most important and contested topics: tax policy. Kimberly Clausing is the Eric M. Zolt Chair in Tax Law and Policy at the UCLA School of Law. Before that, she was the deputy assistant secretary for tax analysis in the U.S. Department of the Treasury. Clausing also served as the lead economist in the Office of Tax Policy during the first part of the Biden Administration. She joins WITHpod to discuss Trump vs. Biden tax and economic policy, notable changes in IRS funding, who is most affected by recent major tax legislation and more.

The Stakes of Immigration with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-04-09
Duration: 01:05:14
Shownotes: We’re excited to share the first conversation in our WITHpod 2024: The Stakes series. For the first time since 1892, we have an election in

which both candidates have presidential records, which provides a unique opportunity to cut through messaging and rhetoric and culture war flotsam and actually take a hard look at what each man has actually done as president. On The Stakes, WITHPod will choose specific areas of policy -- immigration, taxes, climate -- and talk to an expert about the two candidates' records on the topic. We’re starting with one of the highest salience and most complex policy areas: immigration. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy director at the American Immigration Council, joins to unpack immigration policies under Trump vs. Biden, border enforcement, the state of the asylum system and more.

The Story of an Israeli Dissident with Meir Baruchin with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-04-02
Duration: 00:51:11
Shownotes: Our guest this week was thrown in jail and fired from his job after social media posts he made about Hamas’ attack on Israel on

October 7th. Meir Baruchin, 62, is an Israeli history and civics teacher who was held in solitary confinement for four days after posts he made denouncing the war in Gaza. There was an adjudicated process in which he was later found to be wrongly fired from his job in the central Israeli city of Petah Tikv. He was later reinstated. Baruchin joins WITHpod to discuss the political persecution he says he’s faced, the intense suffering he’s witnessed, the ongoing legal process he’s experienced and more. UPDATE: Since publishing this episode, Baruchin was granted a permanent injunction against the Ministry of Education and the municipality of Petah Tikva, which will allow him to continue teaching and physically re-enter his classes.

The State of Polling with Nate Cohn with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-03-26
Duration: 00:52:21
Shownotes: There’s so much discourse about polling and it seems like there’s a poll for nearly every political issue. At the same time, polls often don’t

successfully help us to predict the future, including election outcomes. What contributes to the mismatch between what we expect of them and what they actually deliver? Nate Cohn is the chief political analyst at the New York Times where he created the Times/Siena poll. Cohn points out that, among many things, polling plays a “central role in the way we understand the way campaigns ought to behave.” He joins WITHpod to discuss the complexities of polling, survey methodology, systematic biases and more.

“Who’s Afraid of Gender?” with Judith Butler with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-03-19
Duration: 00:51:15
Shownotes: Why have attacks on gender become so pervasive, especially within right-wing movements? Our guest this week points out that “the question of gender is fundamentally

linked with the future of our democratic world.” Judith Butler is a philosopher, gender theorist and cultural critic. They are also a distinguished professor in the graduate school at the University of California at Berkeley. Butler is the author of numerous books, including their latest, “Who’s Afraid of Gender?” They join WITHpod to discuss their seminal work, thinking beyond gender binaries, the obsession with gender as a tool to further authoritarian movements and more. You might also enjoy these WITHpod conversations:Treating Trans Youth with Dr. Izzy Lowell The Fixation on Anti-Trans Legislation with Chase Strangio

BONUS: TikTok’s Uncertain Future with Jacob Ward with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-03-16
Duration: 01:00:35
Shownotes: If you’ve been following the news, you’ve seen that this week the House passed a bill designed to force the sale of TikTok from its

Chinese parent company. If you’re confused about the ins and outs of this issue, we did an extensive exploration of it with NBC News technology correspondent Jacob Ward last year. So, we thought it would be good to re-share this TikTok 101. This conversation was originally recorded in April 2023. From the original description: TikTok is one of the fastest growing social media platforms in the world, and now has over a billion users worldwide. But its future in the United States remains in limbo. The Biden administration, citing national security concerns, has demanded that the Chinese-owned company be sold, or face a federal ban. Montana lawmakers have already passed legislation banning the platform on personal devices, sending the bill to the governor. A lot of questions remain about the feasibility of statewide and federal bans, and why, exactly, do U.S. policymakers view this platform, that started as a lip syncing app, as such a threat? Jacob Ward is the NBC News technology correspondent and is author of “In The Loop: How Technology Is Creating a World Without Choices and How to Fight Back.” He joins WITHpod to discuss what’s driven the app’s exponential growth, the company’s lack of transparency in the past, the case for and against it, what could be ahead on the regulatory front and more.

Confronting Christian Nationalism with Doug Pagitt with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-03-12
Duration: 00:58:19
Shownotes: Our guest this week recently traveled down to the border to confront the so-called “Army of God” as part of a larger project of providing

alternative ideologies to Christian nationalism. Doug Pagitt is a pastor, author and the executive director of Vote Common Good, an organization aimed at influencing evangelical Christians. His group has been on a nationwide tour focused on directly engaging evangelicals in key swing states with the hope of swaying a critical percentage of them against former President Donald Trump. Pagitt believes a small portion of these voters are swayable and that if they are engaged, election outcomes can be flipped. He joins WITHpod to discuss the trajectory of evangelical politics, what he’s learned on tour and what’s at stake in this year’s election.

A Mediapocalypse? with Ben Smith with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-03-05
Duration: 00:49:27
Shownotes: It can feel like the news industry is in a moment of crisis. Over 500 journalists were laid off from news outlets in January 2024

alone, according to a report from outplacement firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas. These layoffs are part of a broader trend of seismic changes within the media industry over the past few decades. As disinformation concerns continue to rise and we prepare for another consequential election, why are newsrooms drastically reducing headcount? Ben Smith is editor in chief and cofounder at Semafor, a recently launched digital news platform. He is author of “Traffic: Genius, Rivalry, and Delusion in the Billion-Dollar Race to Go Viral,” which unpacks the ups and downs of the digital media business. Smith is also a former New York Times media columnist and the former editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed News. He joins WITHpod to discuss how we got to this moment, the impact of evolving news consumption habits, changing revenue models and more.

The Explosion in Green Tech with Jigar Shah with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-02-27
Duration: 00:56:29
Shownotes: Nuclear power contributes to nearly 20 percent of the electricity generated in America, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. Enormous growth has occurred since

the signing of the Inflation Reduction Act in 2022, which allocated more money towards climate, and green energy subsidies than any piece of legislation in American history. But a lot of work still remains. Jigar Shah is director of the Department of Energy Loan Programs Office, a role in which he oversees investing and scaling carbon free energy. Before this position, he was a clean tech investor. He joins WITHpod to discuss recent inflection points, the future of nuclear, the importance of remembering that “big things” can be done and why he’s more hopeful now about the space more than ever.

Protecting Voting Rights with Eric Holder with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-02-20
Duration: 00:44:26
Shownotes: The Department of Justice, created in 1870, was initially formed in part to enforce Reconstruction era laws aimed at ensuring voting rights for formerly enslaved

people. Yet, nearly 150 years later, voting access is still under attack. Eric Holder made history as the first black U.S. Attorney General, serving in the Obama administration. Holder now serves as the chairman of the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, which focuses on fighting back against gerrymandering to achieve fair maps. He joins WITHpod to discuss the fight for voting rights, growing redistricting concerns nationwide and how concerned he is about the possibility of former president Donald Trump being reelected.

2020: The Year Everything Changed with Eric Klinenberg with full AI transcript and summary

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Update: 2024-02-13
Duration: 01:00:05
Shownotes: 2020 was undoubtedly one of the most consequential years in history. The ongoing impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, along with other cascading crises, can still

be felt in almost every facet of our lives. Our guest this week points out that in order to heal, we must take time to reckon with what we lived through. Eric Klinenberg is a sociologist, the Helen Gould Shepard Professor of Social Science at NYU and the author of “2020: One City, Seven People, and the Year Everything Changed.” Klinenberg is also the director at NYU's Institute for Public Knowledge. He joins WITHpod to discuss stories of people he profiled in the book, the importance of grappling with what we experienced, the increasing pressures of daily life and more.

Winning Progressive Change with Deepak Bhargava with full AI transcript and summary

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