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Episode: Kansas City Dad Bods, Jason’s Nap Era and World Series Preview with CC Sabathia | Ep 106
Author: Wondery
Duration: 02:19:38
Episode Shownotes
92%ers, we are back with another episode of New Heights! In this episode, we are joined by an incredible guest MLB legend CC Sabathia! Before we get to CC, we address Jason being called out to kick for a good cause, provide an update on the ‘Heights Hotline,’ and react
to the famous reactions we got from our Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants review. We’ve also got a full recap of Jason getting Outta the House at the Eras tour in Miami, Travis breaking down the Chiefs' Super Bowl rematch against the Niners, and a look at some of the best internet reactions to Pat Mahomes ‘dad bod’ TD that broke the internet. We also get into everything else from Week 7 in the NFL including Jason’s thoughts on Saquon going off against the Giants, reactions to a huge NFC North showdown, and try and explain why Jets fans might be losing their minds. Finally, we sit down for an incredible conversation with CC Sabathia. The guys get into everything from why this might be the best World Series of all time, if NFL players could make it in the majors, the hitters he’s glad to never face again, and so much more! You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting http://wondery.com/NewHeightsOffer now....Download the full podcast here:Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMbApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynwFollow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshowSupport the Show: PELOTON: Find your push. Find your power with Peloton at http://onepeloton.comMETA QUEST: Check out Golf+ and see what else is possible on Meta Quest. Hit up https://www.meta.com/quest for more (Golf+ for ages 13+) AG1: Try AG1 today and get their special offer of TEN, yes ten, free travel packs, AND a bottle of Vitamin D3K2 with your first purchase at http://drinkAG1.com/newheights.AMEX: Experience the powerful backing of American Express. For terms and to learn more, visit https://americanexpress.com/withamex.LOWES: Download the app http://lowes.com/hometeamFARMER’S DOG: Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at https://www.thefarmersdog.com/newheights Plus, you get FREE shippingSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Summary
In Episode 106 of "New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce," the Kelce brothers invite MLB legend CC Sabathia for a lively discussion about various sports topics. The episode delves into Jason's views on the Cleveland Guardians, Travis' take on NFL matchups, and the historical potential of the World Series. They touch on Jason's charity kicking challenge and humorous anecdotes from their personal and sports experiences. The conversation also explores injuries in the NFL, standout player performances, and the challenges of transitioning between sports, all while highlighting Sabathia's valuable insights into baseball and its playoff dynamics.
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And I can prove it to you. You know I play jazz.
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Sometimes when you close your eyes... Dude, every jazz solo I ever saw you play... A little sexy sax. Welcome back to new heights. Ladies and gentlemen, a one tree show produced by wave sports and entertainment. Yeah, baby. Brought to you by Peloton.
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Why don't you tell the people about this amazing episode? Oh
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Oh, we got an incredible episode lined up here. We're going to talk about the Chiefs staying undefeated in the Super Bowl rematch against San Fran. Saquad's big return to the Meadowlands. We're also going to get into time out of the house. That's right.
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In particular, my time out of the house. We're also going to be joined by legend CeCe Sabathia. How about that, baby?
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Former Cleveland Guardian. To be honest, I kind of like the Guards. I like the Guardians.
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I'm going to be very honest. I don't think Guardians is a good team name. I get that it's the thing on the two statues. The two statues on the bridge. I would rather have been the Cleveland Statues. I think that's cooler than Cleveland.
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I do not like the Cleveland Guardians one bit. Just being honest.
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I don't know about the statues, dude.
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The Cleveland Pillars. The Cleveland Stones. Like, it could have been so many other things. I said Guardians is a stupid name. I don't like the Guardians.
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I don't know why. Carnegie Bridge.
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Yeah, exactly. Carnegie's, I mean, I don't know.
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We're not gonna get in on this, man. I'm with it, man.
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I don't like that one, I don't like Commanders. Maybe it's just because I'm too old now that I just don't like new names. What are other expansion names?
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Dude, I mean, I'm still waiting on the Utah Hockey Club to get a name, man. Just be the Yetis, man. Come on, man. Please. Yetis would have been great. Come on. The Utah Yetis?
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That shit sounds sweet. And there's a Utah Hockey Club? So weak. That is such a preppy fucking name for a goddamn team.
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No, it's the same thing as the football team.
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You have to go to the game. You have to go to the game in like a suit and tie. You gotta have your blazer on and a tie on. Otherwise, you don't get into the club.
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No, man.
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It's just terrible.
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It's gotta be just a placeholder until they find their like real name. It can't be called the fucking hockey club.
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Who knows? They'll probably do. Yetis is way better. Yetis is a great name. What's another expansion team recently? Ooh, what's the Kraken? That's not bad.
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The Kraken was sweet, yes, he had a Kraken.
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It's not bad.
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I like that one.
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The most recent football team is the Texans. Is that the most recent expansion, like brand new football team? I mean, other teams have moved location.
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Yeah, nobody's switched names.
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I like the name Texans. We've been through this in the last year. Like Texans, I think it's a pretty good one. It's not very creative, but I like the Oilers better. All right, well, let's give it a little. Okay, anyways.
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Let's get this show started with a little bit of...
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New News. That's right. New News is brought to you by Timberland and Vans. Nobody like my butters. You do love your butters, man. And I got my Vans on, but they look like sneakers, man. Let's start this thing off with a little kicking challenge.
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The first bit of new news, Jason, our episode with Pat McAfee last week, you have officially been called out by our friends at Timberland and Vans. Called out? Let's watch this clip. Called out for what?
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How you doing? This is Steve Van Dorn from Vans. We got Famous Daniel here. We made some special shoes up right here. Checkerboard, football cleats.
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Oh my gosh.
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Let's see if you can kick him in your tits to match a 100k donation.
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Okay. I like how he ended that video.
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He said he was Famous Dan? Do you know who that Dan was? I don't know who that guy was. Yeah, he's a big TikToker. Okay. All right.
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No, I'm kidding. I mean, he made it. There's no chance I'm going to make this. You can't make a field goal, Jason?
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Not in Tim's. Why do you think you can't make a field goal in Tim's? Because they're heavy-ass boots and my hip flexors don't work because I ripped them off the bone when I had sports hernia.
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Pat McAfee just talked about how he tore his hip flexor playing soccer last week. Do you know what it's going to be like with my big, goofy ass trying to kick a ball at this age? I'm not messing with you. You were just in the NFL last year.
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And now I am not.
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Pat's been out for like five years.
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Yeah, let me tell you, it drops quick. I get underneath that squat bar and I'm like, I don't know what the hell I'm doing still trying to squat 315.
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Why the fuck are you under a squat bar?
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I don't know, just because I like hurting my back. I think I just love the feeling of my knees cracking while I'm a messed up individual. For some reason, I like it.
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I'm a little fucked up.
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Connor. Barwin one time punted a ball after practice and his knee was never the same. It bothered him for the rest of his career.
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Like, yeah, you got to understand you can't be all quad right there. You can't be all VMO. Yeah, you got to be a little bit. Yeah, you got to be hip flexor. You got to be everything's got to work together when you're kicking, man.
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Because if you get high breaks, that thing if you're doing it wrong, listen, if it's for charity.
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I'll tear my hip flexor for charity. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
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It's a Cleveland ball player right there.
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All right. I don't really know how this is going to be facilitated, whether I have to make it, what the deal is, uh, with Timberland and bands, but the challenge is accepted. Yeah. Famous Dan was a famous Dan Stan. What was that? I think it was Dan.
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Brandon's gonna type. It was famous.
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Dan.
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It was Dan. You were right.
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You gotta give him a name.
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Thank you, Intern Brandon. Well, I'm gonna have to go straight on. I can't soccer style in Timbs, right? No, no. It's gotta be blue. It's gotta be blue rose toe, like toe, right?
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Square toe that thing.
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You can get it in there. Should I put like a little, you know the old square toe cleats they used to make specifically for kicking?
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What are you talking about? You talking about the steel toes that you wore during the season last year?
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I did this.
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This dude was out there in steel toed cleats. It was crazy.
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I do. I do have a modified cleat, but it was not the flat front the way they usually literally make like a flat front.
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You got to put the cleat like a frame with like a little bit on it with a little flash card that says, like what, how it was made and like how many games you played in it?
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I'm gonna make a whole video with Don the Cobbler in South Philly. He was the one who used to hook me up, Don the Cobbler. They put tar on it? I didn't even know there were cobblers.
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That's funny.
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I thought that was like an old, that was a profession that went extinct when they invented machinery. I didn't know there were still cobblers, but there are both.
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Stay tuned to all the new heights, social channels and tune in next week to see what we have in store and how you can participate in this. This fun charity fundraiser that involves Jason trying to make a field goal in Timberlands.
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Alrighty, huge announcement. We've officially started the heights hotline. That's right. And we want to hear from you. We're trying to figure out ways to hear from our fans and everybody out there that listens to this show on a weekly basis.
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We obviously appreciate you guys so much. So we've decided to create a hotline number. That's right. The number is 929-399-7260. Hopefully somebody will put that number on the screen.
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It's like 1 800 new heights or something.
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Yeah, what does that spell? Brandon said those are hard to get.
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This is, this is hilarious.
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Again, that's 929-399-7260. You can call in and ask us questions and we will replay the actual audio. So there's a chance you make it on the show. which I think is pretty cool. Without us just reading it, we actually hear your voice.
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The topic for the first Heights Hotline, one that will be put in the episode, is going to be relationships. That's right, ask us any questions you have about relationships.
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Yeah, leave us a voicemail and ask to solve any issue or whatever questions you may have.
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Oh yeah, well, next caller, this is the latest man. How can I help you? We're trying to be our own Leon Phelps. This is pretty good.
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So yeah, the only thing left to do is, is record the outgoing message. So should we do that right now?
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Yeah. Yeah, let's go. We got to get it. What's the record?
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If it's free, give me three. Let's keep this thing moving. We're still in the, uh, Wondry Plus realm with our, uh, film club. All right. Now, speaking of our bonus content last week, we released our first new heights film club episode. How about that?
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And got, uh, we got some fun replies from a few familiar faces. Hey. We got a shout out from Bridget herself, Blake Lively. Shout out to Blake. And Blake saw our Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants clip and posted this response on Instagram.
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I knew it. I knew those pants didn't have anything to do with it.
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You're a psycho.
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I called it from the moment I saw it. These pants aren't important at all.
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It's just the title. That's it.
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That's all it is.
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It doesn't have anything to do with it.
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But Blake, thank you so much for proving me right and for Uh, offering that bit of, uh, knowledge that the author actually didn't want the pants in it, but instead wanted to have some type of magical thing because of Harry Potter and... So good.
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Yeah, it's great.
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Yeah. I love it. And what a great response. And we needed that. We needed that clarification.
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We did. We did. Blake was also not the only cast member we heard from. Uh, we also got a couple of mentions from the one and only Tibby. That's right. Amber Tamblyn. I approve of this poster and both of you.
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A bunch of pants, a bunch of females, a bunch of hearts, XO, Tibby.
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Shout out to Amber. Appreciate you. You catching the Wondry Plus or at least hearing about it and giving your approval. We appreciate that. Any thoughts on the next Film Club movie?
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Should it be a Thanksgiving slash holiday theme since it will come out in November?
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I think we did a chick flick. Now we got to balance it out. and do just the most masculine movie of all time.
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All right, let's see. Let's let's take it to the 92 percenters on some some masculine movies, maybe some Terminators, maybe some.
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What are some of the opposite ends of the spectrum of Sister in the Traveling Pants? What movies do you guys think we can do? I also want to hear what the Swifties think are like the masculine movies.
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Like what do you think? Oh man, this would be good.
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Rambo freaking die hard. Really? Any eighties or nineties action movie has got to be just like commando. This would be good. This would be good. Blood sport. Blood sport is the manliest movie that should win. I fucking love blood sport.
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God, I love that movie.
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I'm down to watch it.
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We'll see what you guys say on that front. And once again, we also want to mention that new news is brought to you by our friends at Timberland and Vance.
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I'm about to go get some fresh butters right now. Let's talk a little out of the house. Moving on to out of the house. Out of the house is brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express. Jason got out of the house this week. I did. I did.
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How about it? This weekend, I should say, in Miami. And we got to talk about it. You took a nap at the Arrows Tour.
00:14:40 Speaker_01
I did not take a nap. What is that all about? Travis, you know I didn't take a nap. I did not take a nap.
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How are you? This show is absolutely electric. It's the greatest show that's ever been on stage. And you're over here falling asleep?
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Not only was it the greatest show, but obviously I went to the two London shows. This Miami show was incredible. I think part of it's like, I don't know if it's back the fact that we're back in the US because I think the London crowd was incredible.
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But the rain and everything, dude, it was like, on another level. I text you halfway through it. Like, dude, this rain, Tay is killing it.
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Dude, when reputation came on and she came out in the new outfit and the rain was coming down and the place could have fucking erupted. I mean, it did like it was the amount of energy was insane. It was so exciting.
00:15:31 Speaker_01
But back to this photo, I'm going to give a little, I guess, background to this. So Kylie is holding Elliot, right? Ellie was just with me, we were dancing, and I was sitting down. So I'm on the same level with her.
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Yeah.
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And I'm trying not to we're out in the middle of the open right here. Uh, and we brought a bunch of people to the show because a bunch of people have been asking us, Hey, when are you going to Taylor Swift shows?
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And mom went for the first time and we're trying to figure out, we go out there and I realized I'm in like the middle of the open. Like it isn't like a box. It's like a close.
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Like I'm so I'm like, okay, I'm gonna sit down and not be, I don't want to like, I don't know. I felt like I'm standing, I'm holding Ellie. I feel like I'm a, like kind of in a fishbowl, like everybody's staring at me. So I just sit down.
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I'm dancing with Ellie. Ellie goes over to Kylie.
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and then i'm just like sitting here and i'm just like feeling it and i'm like oh and i'm tapping my thigh and i'm just like in the moment listening to the song and then all of a sudden i go on twitter and i see this fucking picture and i'm like dude what the fuck like i'm not even sleeping
00:16:36 Speaker_01
And I can prove it to you. There's evidence in this photo that I'm not sleeping. You calling Bo Allen a liar? Bo didn't say I was sleeping. Bo did not say I was sleeping. He just posted the picture.
00:16:46 Speaker_11
He didn't say I was sleeping. I thought you said you were sleeping. No! You were just feeling the groove, huh?
00:16:51 Speaker_01
Jets Jake, zoom in on my right hand in post. Make sure that Travis sees this. My hand is hovering. You can't sleep with your hand hovering above your knee. It's impossible.
00:17:02 Speaker_11
Nice.
00:17:02 Speaker_01
I'm not in major pain. How am I gonna, I can't sleep with my eyes open, much less with my hand hovering above my knee. That's because I'm slapping my leg. I was going like this, I'm going like this. And you know I play jazz.
00:17:16 Speaker_01
Sometimes when you close your eyes.
00:17:17 Speaker_11
Dude, every jazz solo I ever saw you play.
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Little sexy sax. I'm seriously I'm like, so I'm kind of happy again. But this is like one of my favorite parts about the show. Because the best of the rain had just like started to get into my face. Elliot was with mom.
00:17:42 Speaker_01
So I'm like, Okay, and I'm just sitting here. And I'm tapping my leg and I'm just in the moment. I invite Bo Allen and his mom. It's, it's, it's her birthday. He's my sister. Nice. And then all of a sudden friendly fired.
00:18:00 Speaker_01
Like I'm nervous about all these other people getting pictures with me and Ellie. And I'm trying to have a moment. And then all of a sudden I see this betrayed by one of my best friends.
00:18:11 Speaker_11
That's how it happens. That's not betrayal, that's just a good friend. That's just called being a friend. It's called being a best friend. Well, I had all the FOMO in the world with the entire family and a lot of our friends being there.
00:18:24 Speaker_11
I had a bunch of friends that were also down by the stage that had been to a few shows overseas, and they were saying the same thing that you're saying. The Miami Stadium was just on another level. Dude, it was incredible. It was incredible.
00:18:37 Speaker_11
Man, I wish I was there. I wish I was there. Also, there was a little bit of confusion among the Swifties. They apparently confused Kylie with Bo Allen. Those aren't two people that I think ever should- Not sure how you get those two mixed up.
00:18:55 Speaker_11
I'm sure Bo was flattered.
00:18:56 Speaker_01
I don't know who's more disrespected, Kylie or Bo. Oh, that everyone thought a former nose guard in the NFL is now a female or Kylie that everybody thought you were a hairy nose guard with your arms exposed.
00:19:14 Speaker_11
We would like to recreate this comment section with a little dramatic reading.
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Travis will play the miscellaneous brewer and Jason will play shells ray. Okay, let's go. Let's see what our voice acting skills look like.
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Sound like Oh God, miscellaneous brewer. He's a brewer. So he's a drunk. Kylie is so beautiful down to earth. Look at those ripped field hockey arms. I mean, she's just The glue, the neck, the foundation Kylie is giving us Midwestern moms life.
00:19:49 Speaker_12
Cause a great Midwestern mom voice.
00:19:51 Speaker_01
All right. Shells Ray response. Uh, where do you see her arms? Lol. Kylie is sitting in front of Donna. Someone else's holding Wyatt.
00:20:03 Speaker_12
Isn't that her dancing around Jason in that cowboy hat. It looks and look at those guns.
00:20:09 Speaker_01
No, that's a man. That's Bo Allen. Kylie is sitting in front of Donna holding Elliot.
00:20:16 Speaker_12
Sorry, I put my glasses on and clearly that's not Kylie. Okay. But whoever that woman is, good on those muscles. Sorry, I'm blind.
00:20:30 Speaker_01
whoever that woman is. Yeah, and finally, we also heard from the mystery woman in question herself, Bo, Bo BBL Allen. And he said, she wishes she had this ass.
00:20:45 Speaker_11
Jesus.
00:20:45 Speaker_01
Which, I'm not gonna lie.
00:20:47 Speaker_11
Who doesn't?
00:20:48 Speaker_01
I do not. I'm very happy she does not. As bootylicious as Bo Allen's behind is I'm starting to throw up in my mouth thinking about Kylie having Bowie.
00:21:01 Speaker_11
Well, let's keep it moving. And overall, did the family have a good time at the show? Everyone had a good time. Who didn't like doesn't have a good time.
00:21:07 Speaker_01
And everyone, not only everybody have a good time. But everybody was has been texting over the last couple days since then. Like, dude, She's just incredible. And the show's incredible. Miami was another level of it.
00:21:22 Speaker_01
I'm excited for her to be back out on tour for this final leg of the era's run here.
00:21:28 Speaker_02
Yep.
00:21:29 Speaker_01
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. It was an incredible trip, so keep killing it, Tay.
00:21:33 Speaker_11
Keep killing it.
00:21:33 Speaker_01
Yeah, shout out to everyone that went to the Ares tour down in Miami. Special shout out to my friends that came along.
00:21:40 Speaker_01
Obviously, maybe King Swifty now, Bo Allen, who knows way too many Swifty references, his sister Grace, and of course, the the birthday woman herself, Susie Allen, as well as Donna Kelsey's first show, Elliot Kelsey's first show, Wyatt Kelsey's first show.
00:21:56 Speaker_01
It was a it was an awesome time down there, man. It was great.
00:21:59 Speaker_11
Yeah. And shout out to Tay Tay for powering through a few, uh, range shows there.
00:22:03 Speaker_01
Dude.
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00:22:09 Speaker_01
All right, let's get into some week seven recaps, starting with the chiefs, chiefs 28, 49ers 18 and the super bowl rematch. Uh, yeah. What are your thoughts, Trev?
00:22:21 Speaker_11
I mean, it's, it's tough to call it a super bowl rematch. I mean, It's there were different guys out there.
00:22:27 Speaker_02
Yeah.
00:22:27 Speaker_11
Different guys out there. Obviously the same organization, same head coach, a lot of the, a lot of the same big time players, but are big name players, familiar faces.
00:22:35 Speaker_11
But, um, at the end of the day, we had a lot of guys step up, uh, on our team, at least that, uh, that didn't play in the Superbowl. And then on top of that. You know, it was just a, it was a tough game, man.
00:22:45 Speaker_11
It was a, it was a, it was a get dirty type game. I mean, we ran the ball a lot. Kareem hunt was, uh, was getting downhill and finding, finding extra yards after contact. Same with, uh, my guy, Carson steel.
00:22:59 Speaker_11
Dundee hitting the hole like a maniac man, and it was just, it started off a little slow for us, but I think we ended up, you know, catching some wind, feeling some confidence there, and really just playing together, man.
00:23:13 Speaker_11
Just being accountable when your number's called. And we found ways to put up some touchdowns, man. And that was the biggest thing going into that game as an offense, was, man, when we get in the red zone, man, enough of these field goals.
00:23:25 Speaker_11
Even though we love Harry, love Harrison Bucker, and he's gonna make some big field goals for us again this year. Let's put up some touchdowns, man. We, we work, we work our tail off to get in that red zone.
00:23:35 Speaker_11
And then all of a sudden, you know, we settle for three and it's just, you know, let's reward ourselves by getting that ball in the end zone. And that's what we did, man.
00:23:41 Speaker_01
And nobody is a better at getting it in the end zone after the biweek than Andy Reed.
00:23:46 Speaker_11
All right.
00:23:47 Speaker_01
Now at 22 and four, he has the highest winning percentage after the buy in NFL history. Yeah. What does Andy do differently other than other coaches during the buy? I don't know. I'm not sure.
00:23:56 Speaker_11
That's his secret sauce, man. He's got the formula, man. He has a unique way to find routines that challenge everybody in the building to be accountable, if that makes sense. Like, he has a way to challenge the offensive line.
00:24:11 Speaker_11
He has a way to challenge the receivers, you know, knowing that a lot of guys are banged up. He has a way to challenge Pat Mahomes. And on top of that, he has a way to challenge the coaches to be able to put us in successful positions. And I think
00:24:24 Speaker_11
You know, you give him that extra week of preparation and to think about it and to like really, really put a game plan together. Coach Reed does it better than anybody, in my opinion. I just and I think that record proves it.
00:24:38 Speaker_01
Yeah, I think a lot of it, like you just said, is you give Andy's a great coach. And when you give any great coach more time to prepare, they're going to be that much more dangerous.
00:24:49 Speaker_01
And you guys came out right from the gate, and it felt like the offense was humming. I know there's some interceptions and some turnovers, but.
00:24:56 Speaker_07
It was going.
00:24:57 Speaker_01
And then on top of that, I mean, we gotta talk about Spags. I know.
00:25:01 Speaker_10
Oh man, come on now, baby.
00:25:03 Speaker_01
Yeah, baby. It's Spags we trust. Brock had a rough day out there. trying to throw the ball. Now he was missing some horses. You know, they've had the injury bug just like you guys have.
00:25:13 Speaker_11
And you hate to see you going down in the middle of it.
00:25:15 Speaker_01
That was terrible. I hate watching it.
00:25:17 Speaker_11
It sucks, man. And guys are it's it's really unfortunate, man. This year just seems like injuries are happening to a lot of teams. And it's like big name guys on the on on the team are getting hit with them.
00:25:29 Speaker_11
And yeah, you just hate to see it, man, especially when it's when it when they're good dudes, man.
00:25:34 Speaker_02
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:35 Speaker_11
So that never makes it easy. But at the same time, man, that's football, brother. You got to find a way to the next man up has got to has got to be ready. And and that's just, you know, unfortunately, the game we played in the game we love, man.
00:25:47 Speaker_01
Debo Samuel has pneumonia.
00:25:49 Speaker_11
That sucks, man.
00:25:50 Speaker_01
How rare is that?
00:25:50 Speaker_11
I don't know that I've... Especially, like, right now.
00:25:54 Speaker_01
Healthy guy.
00:25:55 Speaker_11
Yeah. Hopefully Debo gets good, gets healthy quick, man. We never like to hear that.
00:25:59 Speaker_01
For sure. Defense is dominant. They finish with three interceptions, one sack, five tackles for loss, and six quarterback hits. Insane stat. The defense hasn't allowed a 300-yard passer. since the Super Bowl against the Eagles. Shout out to Jalen Hurts.
00:26:14 Speaker_01
Rookie safety Jaden Hicks came up with one of the biggest plays of the game when he picked off Brock Purdy in the fourth quarter. It was Hicks' first career interception. How about that?
00:26:24 Speaker_11
Jay Hicks, baby. Right on time, man. Especially big time, big time on the goal line too. Man, you see one of those things, man. That's one of those, you jump off the bench like, woo!
00:26:38 Speaker_01
Stole one, baby. Yeah, baby. You already talked about... Kareem Hunt and Nicole Harmon, but obviously both of those guys coming in and having big games. We talked about the Niners having injuries.
00:26:49 Speaker_01
Obviously, you guys have been thrust with a bunch of them as well. And you guys haven't got to step up. Kareem Hunt ends with two touchdowns on 78 yards rushing. Kareem! Nicole had a couple cool design plays as well as a reverse on a round.
00:27:05 Speaker_11
A few jet sweeps, had a big punt return. McColl is just, he's always there, man. He's always ready. And for whatever reason, man, he's just got the 49 in his number. Last time we were in San Fran, or San Francisco, I should say, he had a big game.
00:27:20 Speaker_11
I think he had something like two or three touchdowns, big time in the return game. On top of that, he had a lot of jet sweeps as well, man. I don't know if...
00:27:29 Speaker_11
If they, they realized he was, he's one of the jet sweep Kings out here, man, is what he does. You just get the ball in his hands running fast and good things are going to happen.
00:27:36 Speaker_01
Something that Andy does so well, as well as the, the coach for the Buccaneers and Baker and what they're doing down in Tampa, they get guy, they get the ball to really athletic guys in space.
00:27:48 Speaker_01
Like they'll take the shots down the field when they need to, but they do such a good job of, Hey, let's just get it to a really fast guy in a lot of open area.
00:27:56 Speaker_01
Like, and it seems so simple, but like, no, they're create, he's creative with doing that.
00:28:02 Speaker_11
You know what I mean? Cause I mean, all that stuff can, it can get shut down if you get, if you, if you're showing any tells or correct, the defense can scheme you up with that kind of stuff. But at the same time, man, yeah.
00:28:12 Speaker_11
Get the ball in McCole Hardman's hand. I mean, let him go ahead and rock. Hand that thing off to Kareem. Yeah, exactly.
00:28:19 Speaker_01
If you give a fast guy space to be fast, it's going to be a good recipe.
00:28:25 Speaker_11
It felt like Worthy was going to just absolutely take it to the house. And for whatever reason, it just, like 49ers players just popped out of the sky and just like surrounded him.
00:28:34 Speaker_11
I was like, man, I could have swore that he was going to take that to the house.
00:28:38 Speaker_01
It had to bubble just like a little bit. And I feel like guys got out in front maybe a little bit too much.
00:28:42 Speaker_11
Yeah, you'd already know. You never know on some of those jet sweeps and end arounds how that thing's timing up, because you're so focused on the defense and trying to get your guy that you just never know where the guy with the ball is.
00:28:54 Speaker_01
The other guy that continues to play well, even though everybody likes to highlight his touchdown to interception ratio, is Pat Mahomes, or Pat Truck Holmes, as he might be referred to now.
00:29:04 Speaker_11
Pat Truck Mahomes. I like to call him Pat Vic.
00:29:08 Speaker_01
Pat Vic.
00:29:09 Speaker_11
Yeah, using those legs, baby.
00:29:11 Speaker_01
First, he had the longest run of his career, a 33-yard scamper Like he kind of used his quarterback ness to his advantage.
00:29:22 Speaker_11
Get out of here. You watch it again. That Kareem pushes the guy out of bounds.
00:29:27 Speaker_01
All right. All right.
00:29:28 Speaker_11
Watch it again. The guy Kareem is literally over there in the flat. All right. All right. Gets away. Kareem sees 53 pushes him. He loses balance.
00:29:36 Speaker_01
Okay.
00:29:36 Speaker_11
And then he gets in the way of 92. I'm not trying to hear this man.
00:29:41 Speaker_01
Touche. I'm sorry. I didn't see the push.
00:29:43 Speaker_11
I hear, I hear, I hear what everybody's saying. Some quarterbacks definitely take advantage of that. I think Pat has been pretty solid with if he's getting out of bounds, he's doing it because he can't do, he can't get any more yards with his legs.
00:29:57 Speaker_11
He's not going to try and trick a guy of going out of bounds and then do it. It's like the old fake slide. I don't, I don't, I just don't see Pat doing it. Yeah.
00:30:04 Speaker_01
Well, I think you're right. He definitely was pushed.
00:30:06 Speaker_11
He never, he never looked like he was running out of bounds.
00:30:09 Speaker_01
He was running towards the sideline. The other guy slowed down, but that was more because they thought that he was going to get forced out. I think you're right. I mean, it's a good, it's a good point out, Trev. I missed that.
00:30:20 Speaker_11
I hear what everybody's saying though. I get it. Sometimes quarterbacks are protected on that sideline and it can get guys to play a little bit more cautious and not just absolutely try and take his head off.
00:30:29 Speaker_11
Like the good old days of football right now.
00:30:32 Speaker_01
After the game, Pat said he didn't realize that that was his longest run. Neither did I. I need to get my yards up because 33 is not that long. If for a guy that scrambles as much as Pat, you would think that he would have a longer one. Right?
00:30:50 Speaker_11
I mean, I've seen him take off on some guys now. I didn't realize that 33 was his longest either.
00:30:57 Speaker_11
I know there was the one in the playoffs in 2019 against the Titans right before half that he actually cut back and got in the end zone on that one, like rumbled and bumbled and stumbled his way into the end zone, almost fumbled it, but he held on to it.
00:31:10 Speaker_11
I thought that one was longer, but I guess 33, I mean, numbers don't lie. History don't lie, man.
00:31:17 Speaker_01
We got Pat McAfee, our friend of the show, obviously, with our latest guest before this episode, had this tweet. Pat Mahomes rolling with a little Forrest Gump chip. Yeah, is that a fair? I don't think Pat really runs like Forrest.
00:31:29 Speaker_11
He doesn't have any knee drive, are you kidding me?
00:31:30 Speaker_01
That's all that Forrest has. Forrest is robotic.
00:31:32 Speaker_11
Forza's got that real high knee drive. Pat runs like he doesn't have any knees. Pat is like Lucy Goosey. He is, I'll say this, there's a meme or there's like a gif online right now of an ostrich running away from a dog.
00:31:46 Speaker_11
And he's just like weaving in and out. I'm just like that. I mean, that's Pat Mahomes. A little top heavy with the skinny legs and he's out there just kind of like leaning. I mean, he's scampering though. He's out of there. Ostriches can roll now.
00:31:59 Speaker_01
Dog, this is so accurate. I thought of Kyler Murray was doing it yesterday too and the hips were going all over the place huh it kind of reminds me of you remember that Dak Prescott warm-up that he did the one year and it's like hipster he's like
00:32:26 Speaker_10
He's shooting the A's.
00:32:27 Speaker_01
Yeah, where the hips don't move similar to like the rest of his body. Whenever I think of Pat running, I always think of the hips. Those are immediately where I go. Chiefs linebacker Drew Twank rule on Patrick Mahomes' running style.
00:32:42 Speaker_01
Maybe people underestimate what's under that dad bod.
00:32:46 Speaker_12
Shout out to Pat.
00:32:47 Speaker_01
Pat Vick! Then on that same drive, fourth and one, Pat runs it into the end zone and trucks Mustafa, who I think, if we're being honest, I think he was laying the wood multiple times in the game.
00:32:59 Speaker_11
All game. All game he was, yes.
00:33:01 Speaker_01
I think he was going for the ball. It looked like he was trying to reach and get the ball out of Pat's right hand and just was not ready for the guy.
00:33:07 Speaker_11
I don't think he was ready for the end. I mean, yeah. Hey, you got to be a ballplayer. I'll tell you what he rookie in the league guys got a lot of upside flies around. I mean, I wasn't ready for him a few times.
00:33:20 Speaker_11
He's definitely he came downhill and got a few of our running backs. So the guys definitely got a lot of a lot of promise to be a great player for the Niners, not Not that he isn't already, but this was kind of his welcome to the NFL moment.
00:33:33 Speaker_11
He even said it was online. So he's a good sport about it. And that's how you know you're confident that you're a good player, man. You can understand that, all right, listen, man, there's other good players out here. Sometimes you just get got.
00:33:45 Speaker_01
Sometimes, like we've talked about, everybody gets got. The Chiefs, with that touchdown, went up 21-12 at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Pat on the play said he wasn't even trying to lower his shoulder.
00:33:55 Speaker_01
He was really trying to absorb the hit because he knew it was coming. That dad bod, man, I had enough weight on me where he just went down. A lot of NFL fans ran with this. comparing the bod of Mustafa and Patrick homes.
00:34:13 Speaker_01
Dude, this is such a bad picture of Pat that they'll never just let him live down.
00:34:17 Speaker_09
It's just always gonna be my dog hadn't seen son in like three months, man.
00:34:23 Speaker_01
And then as you already alluded to Malik Mustafa on online was a good sport about it. I ain't gonna lie. I'm getting cooked.
00:34:31 Speaker_07
Oh, yeah.
00:34:32 Speaker_01
Also had this special formation unleashed wonder how much more we're going to see this this year with Carson Wentz out on the field. How about that?
00:34:40 Speaker_11
Carson, baby.
00:34:41 Speaker_01
So you guys go tackle over.
00:34:43 Speaker_11
Yep.
00:34:44 Speaker_01
So the center is actually Wentz is behind the center. And Joe Tooney is snapping him in the ball. Mahomes is behind Cree, but Cree doesn't have the ball. You're in the backfield. Hunt is... I don't even know what position that is.
00:34:57 Speaker_01
He's like... It's like a wing. A wing, but his hand's on the ground. I don't even know... I mean, this is why it's so fun. Who the hell knows what's about to happen in this formation?
00:35:06 Speaker_11
Well, Fred Warner knew, unfortunately, he he stuffed it.
00:35:10 Speaker_11
I mean, we got some yards, don't get me wrong, but we thought that was going to be a guaranteed touchdown because it was just I mean, it was it's tough to those one off plays when you practice them so long.
00:35:20 Speaker_11
This thing's been in the playbook for, I mean, a long, long time. And we we had practiced, you know, getting that thing perfect, making the exchange smooth and getting the right guys out there.
00:35:31 Speaker_11
And sure enough, is a fun way to get our guy Carson Wentz in the game, baby.
00:35:35 Speaker_01
I will say running at the tight end and tackle over. Normally, at least I feel like when we try to do it, you go tackle over in short yardage and like goal line situations because it's heavy man coverage.
00:35:47 Speaker_01
And when you have the tackle over more, the man coverage guys have to go and push towards that side of the formation. So it leads to like a huge... Running away from it, yeah. Yeah. But what do I know?
00:36:03 Speaker_11
Kareem almost, you know, strong-armed his way through some tackles there. But we ended up finding a way to get that thing in the end zone. And that's all that matters, baby.
00:36:14 Speaker_01
Everyone's banged up from both Super Bowl teams. It's the Niners are out. I mean, Debo, Ayuk. I don't even want to list all the guys because I think it's more than that. You guys are down people. Is the Super Bowl hangover a real thing?
00:36:30 Speaker_01
I mean, you guys have won back-to-back Super Bowls, and you guys are 6-0 right now, so I don't... Yes and no.
00:36:35 Speaker_11
I mean, there's definitely something about, you know, the feeling you have after a Super Bowl. You know, you want to...
00:36:43 Speaker_11
First of all, you want to you want to get that opportunity back like it like it burns your fucking soul that you want to get that opportunity back.
00:36:51 Speaker_11
And then on top of that, man, you just have to have the fortune of being successful or I mean, being have the fortune of being healthy and and having your best players out there at the right times and the big moments.
00:37:01 Speaker_11
And you got to find a way to win ballgames. And and, you know, that's not easy, especially when you have success, because you can get caught up in, you know, kind of some of the stuff you've done last year.
00:37:14 Speaker_11
The really good coaches find ways to keep it fresh, to keep it new, keep putting their players in successful positions. And we've been lucky that we've had two of the best coordinators to ever do it, in my opinion, and Coach Reed and Spags.
00:37:29 Speaker_11
And obviously, I'm saying this as the entire coaching staff is chiming in on these game plans. And it's a lot of hard work that you got to be able to go back and dig deep and fight through a lot of stuff that got you to that Super Bowl.
00:37:47 Speaker_11
And sometimes you just got to be fortunate. And at the same time, you just got to be ready for anything to happen, man.
00:37:54 Speaker_01
LeBron stat of the game. McCall Hardman is the first player since 2020. Naeem Hines to record 15 plus rushing yards, 15 plus receiving yards, and a 50 plus punt return yards in a single game. That is definitely a LeBron stat.
00:38:09 Speaker_11
Yeah. I mean, it's a shout out to, shout out to Cole for getting in on the stats, man. LeBron stats, that is.
00:38:15 Speaker_01
Next week, the Chiefs are away versus the Raiders. The Raiders. The last time the Chiefs played the Raiders, as every Raiders fan in Tahoe let us know, the Chiefs lost on Christmas day.
00:38:26 Speaker_11
It was like- Yeah, definitely. They were fired up to play a division rivalry that had got the better of them over the course of the past couple of years. They were ready to play and they came out and they smacked us, man.
00:38:38 Speaker_11
We weren't ready for it and we gotta definitely make sure that we don't get complacent this week and we come ready to play because that team, that's a fiery team, man. They play their tails off every single day.
00:38:50 Speaker_01
Chiefs are 5-0 at Allegiant Stadium since it opened in 2020. Raiders just signed former Bearcats.
00:38:56 Speaker_11
Yeah, Dez. I got Dez Ritter in there, man.
00:39:00 Speaker_01
What, who is the start? Is, is Minshew? Minshew's been in and out.
00:39:03 Speaker_11
I think Minshew's in. I think O'Connell just got banged up, so they had to bring in somebody. All right. All right. Now, 92% is we're excited to be back for another week with our friends over at MetaQuest.
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Let's talk about some of the other big storylines from Week 7, including the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:43:04 Speaker_11
You know it. Eagles 28, Giants 3, and Saquon's return to the Meadowlands. And boy, was it a return. I'm not even going to say it. I don't think it was a revenge game. But I think Saquon definitely appreciated how hard everybody was blocking for him.
00:43:21 Speaker_11
on this thing because he had 187 total yards and a touchdown. We can watch these highlights all day. I mean, he was absolutely fucking rolling and just dragging guys. Yes, he was. He had 176 of that 187 on the on the ground.
00:43:39 Speaker_11
The suck, the suck, the second most against a former team in NFL history. The first was Cedric Benson with the Bengals when he played the Bears. 189 on the ground.
00:43:51 Speaker_11
So yeah, hey you go say Quan was asked about The emotions surrounding this game in his postgame interview to be honest.
00:43:59 Speaker_11
I'm so happy this game is over I don't think I should get besides the day any more questions about the Giants But like I always said, I'm thankful for that organization They're the team that drafted me.
00:44:13 Speaker_11
I still got nothing but love and respect for all the guys over there, but I'm happy to be an Eagle. And that's about as classy as you can get as a player. And that's what you love to see.
00:44:23 Speaker_01
Yeah, man.
00:44:24 Speaker_11
He was also asked about seeing the fans burning his jersey. He replied, I don't think I ever experienced anything like that in my life. In that moment, I was ready for third and one. Let's just say that.
00:44:36 Speaker_11
Yeah, well, it might have been a little revenge game, especially if they're out there burning jerseys. Is this even fair to call it a revenge game for Segawon?
00:44:42 Speaker_01
I don't know, revenge game? I don't think it's a revenge game. I mean, it's just, he's playing his former team.
00:44:48 Speaker_01
It's not like, I mean, there's obviously bad blood there in some ways, but Saquon was very adamant that he still has a love and respect for everybody in that organization. Sometimes it just doesn't work out.
00:45:00 Speaker_01
Like obviously, you know, the Giants weren't willing to spend the amount necessary to keep them. And that's the way the business works. And Saquon ended up signing with the Eagles.
00:45:12 Speaker_01
You know, I think it probably felt good to go out there and play really well against a team that, you know, you at one point probably envision playing your whole career for.
00:45:21 Speaker_01
And obviously with, you know, the fans, this whenever fans are getting into the action, it energizes guys. And for sure, I think he was excited to get out there and play really well.
00:45:32 Speaker_11
Should we encourage fans to boo owners and managers more?
00:45:38 Speaker_01
Uh, I think fans should do whatever they want. I think, you know, I think if it feels right to boo owners and managers, boom, I don't really know the setting. I guess you could do that at games, but I don't know how that would come across.
00:45:49 Speaker_02
Yeah.
00:45:49 Speaker_01
We're booing them. But, um, you know, I had a tweet that obviously I said, I didn't really understand why I hate Saquon is getting all this hate.
00:45:56 Speaker_07
Saquon, nice. Love a good wordplay, man. Fuck.
00:46:00 Speaker_01
Listen, I get why the fans booed him. I get, you know, he's playing for a rival. I get all that. And that New York fans are upset that he played for the Eagles. 100% get that.
00:46:09 Speaker_01
The act like he's the bad guy in this situation or that it's his fault that this didn't work out, I think is bogus. And I think, you know, at the end of the day, the business side of it didn't align with the Giants in Saquon.
00:46:23 Speaker_01
And the Giants had an opportunity to make it a line and they felt like they didn't want to. So I don't know how say Quan is a bad guy here for going out and getting what he's deserved.
00:46:30 Speaker_10
I'm with you, man.
00:46:31 Speaker_01
And to have a star player that is a hard worker, a great guy in the locker room. unbelievable player, athletically, mentally. I just like, I don't know what else you want. I just don't know what else you want. Like, what are you trying to keep around?
00:46:48 Speaker_11
You love to see those guys.
00:46:50 Speaker_01
I get it. They're in a rebuilding year. Either way. I really, I, listen, I was a part of the decision in Cleveland when people were burning LeBron's jerseys. That's a much different situation that happened here.
00:47:01 Speaker_10
Never been mine.
00:47:03 Speaker_01
I still got my shit.
00:47:07 Speaker_11
I didn't get a heat jersey, but I got some of those heat kicks. I got a few kicks that he wore down there in South Beach.
00:47:15 Speaker_01
I just feel like, you know, I don't think this is the same situation.
00:47:19 Speaker_11
Well, shout out to Saquon for having a big day. He helped out the Eagles against his old team. And shout out to the Eagles defense. Maybe the best performance of the year so far this season. Eight sacks, god damn. That's a rough day for a quarterback.
00:47:35 Speaker_11
They also let up zero offensive touchdowns for the second week. Defense caught a stride, baby. Held the Giants to 119 total yards. Big off-season addition, D.N. Bryce Huff recorded 1.5 sacks over the last two games since switching to a four-point stance.
00:47:54 Speaker_11
How about that? The old four-pointer. Both hands in the ground, man.
00:47:58 Speaker_01
He's clearly stated he prefers rushing out of a four-point stance, and that's probably making a big difference. Let's be honest, though.
00:48:04 Speaker_01
The reason there are more sacks and the reason Bryce Huff is played better is because they're getting teams into known passing situations.
00:48:10 Speaker_01
They're getting them into third and long, they're getting leads on offense, and they're getting the opportunity to rush the passer. I think the defense of what they've done the last two weeks has been impressive.
00:48:20 Speaker_01
It's also been against two, like really bad offenses. And like, listen, man, you gotta keep anybody when you keep, when you keep teams, this is what you're supposed to do when you play bad offenses. You're supposed to do this.
00:48:32 Speaker_01
You're supposed to get a tech. So this is a great sign. But like in order for this to continue, four point stance, two point stance, who gives a shit? Get him in the third and long and you're going to get sex. Nice. That's what it comes down to.
00:48:45 Speaker_01
All right. And I think that Bryce Huff is playing better. The whole D line is playing better. The Giants offensive line. I mean, they're out their best player. Thomas didn't start the game. So, yeah, they're feasting. And that's a good sign.
00:48:59 Speaker_01
But I think the big thing is we got to continue to do a great job on first and second and Vic Fangio has said this much. And we used to say it a couple of years ago, you have to earn the right to rush the passer.
00:49:09 Speaker_01
Most of the sacks in this league are not coming on first and second down. You'll get one occasionally off a naked or like two minute situation or something like that.
00:49:18 Speaker_01
But the vast majority of sacks are coming in second and long, third and long, staying ahead of the chains as a defense and having the lead as an offense. And if they keep doing that, these numbers are going to keep being pretty good.
00:49:31 Speaker_11
Yeah. All right. Now, let's talk about some numbers that do matter, and that's your fourth down success on offense. We talked about Sirianni and his fourth down call is not working, but that is not the case this past weekend.
00:49:44 Speaker_01
No, not at all. Especially the fourth and three to AJ Brown.
00:49:48 Speaker_11
How about it, baby? Up top. Eagles went for it on fourth and three from the 41 in the second quarter. And Jalen connected with, you said it, AJ Brown for 41 yards down the field. Absolutely epic, man.
00:50:02 Speaker_01
I mean, they're not expecting it. If you're trying to do something unexpected, throw a goal ball on fourth.
00:50:07 Speaker_11
Everybody, you want to come up on the line. We still got that dog out there. We like him one-on-one. I don't know if you know that. He's one of the guys we like to go to in that type of situation.
00:50:18 Speaker_01
Not a bad guy to go to in any situation.
00:50:20 Speaker_11
There you go. He's out there with the pink shoes again. Gotta love the pink cleats. And then with eight minutes and 33 left in the third quarter, the birds go for it on fourth and two on the five-yard line.
00:50:32 Speaker_11
Jalen scrambles for four yards to get the first. And then, of course, Jalen finishes it off with a little tush push two plays later. Tush push it in just like that the narrative the flips now all of a sudden we like going for it on fourth down.
00:50:48 Speaker_11
You know, I mean, shit's good. It's rocking.
00:50:50 Speaker_01
I mean, I hope out of birds fans. I hope people remember this because I feel like a lot of the times there's selective people remember when you go for it on fourth and you don't get it. more than when you go for it on fourth down and you do get it.
00:51:03 Speaker_01
For whatever reason, that like is entrenched in your head when you don't get points versus, you know, two fourth down decisions that led to touchdowns, right?
00:51:11 Speaker_01
And a game that ultimately without both of those decisions is much closer than the final score ended up being. Hey, they were the right calls. I don't know. It's one of those things. You go for it and you get it. It's the right call.
00:51:21 Speaker_01
You go for it and don't get it. You're an idiot.
00:51:23 Speaker_08
You should do that, dude.
00:51:24 Speaker_01
What are you thinking? How could you make that great job, coach?
00:51:29 Speaker_11
LeBron stat of the game. Saquon Barkley has the most rushing yards in Eagles history. Hey! Through his first six games of the season. That's a pretty good one. That's pretty good. He's in good company.
00:51:42 Speaker_11
I mean, Shady, he was working cats for a long, long time in Philly.
00:51:46 Speaker_01
Shady was definitely.
00:51:48 Speaker_11
Shout out to Saquad. Next week, the Eagles head to Cincinnati to play the Bengals. Back in the natty, baby. You gonna head back to Cincinnati and watch the birds?
00:51:57 Speaker_01
Man, I would love to.
00:52:00 Speaker_11
Get a little Adriatico's pizza?
00:52:02 Speaker_01
I don't think I have time. I think for some reason I'm gonna be in Pittsburgh.
00:52:06 Speaker_11
Get a little Skyline chili? That's not a far trip.
00:52:09 Speaker_01
I was just back in Cincinnati this past week for homecoming. I didn't stay for the game, but I was there for the week.
00:52:14 Speaker_11
Get a little Sigma Sigma in? Get a little drink out of your mug or what?
00:52:17 Speaker_01
No, no mug.
00:52:18 Speaker_11
Both teams are coming off beating the Giants and the Browns and back to back. We kind of seems weird that schedule the schedules. Yeah, that is. We aligned like that.
00:52:29 Speaker_01
Yes, it's an Addy man there. It's there. I guess they're playing better. It's weird. Their offense looked really good against better teams in the last two weeks.
00:52:38 Speaker_01
They've kind of struggled a little bit offensively compared to what they were doing against like Washington and some of these other teams. But hey, they got Joe Burrow, they got some horses out there at wide out. I think they're gonna be pretty good.
00:52:50 Speaker_11
Come on now. So I'll be a fun game to watch. Eagles have their hands full for sure, man.
00:52:53 Speaker_01
Yeah. Before we get to our interview, we're gonna get to some of the other games across the league from week seven. Lions take down the undefeated Vikings in an awesome game. I mean, just an epic, epic game.
00:53:05 Speaker_02
I didn't get to watch all of it, but yeah.
00:53:07 Speaker_01
Uh, it was, did not disappoint. The lions have now scored more touchdowns, uh, than Jared golf has had in completion. That's Jesus golf is killing it. Ben Johnson's killing it. Jameer Gibbs was playing out of his mind.
00:53:22 Speaker_11
What?
00:53:23 Speaker_01
Yeah. And they needed it too. Cause Montgomery was, I mean, he got hurt early and was playing a little bit limbered. It looked like Gibbs showed up. The timing of the offense, the creativity is just so impressive to watch right now.
00:53:37 Speaker_11
They're in rhythm, baby.
00:53:38 Speaker_01
And the Vikings, I mean, this was the clash of the Titans right now in the NFC. Both of these teams have been probably the two best ones.
00:53:46 Speaker_11
We were talking about it the other day. Yeah. Best division of football right now, if you look at the numbers and you look at the records right now.
00:53:52 Speaker_01
That's right. Did not disappoint Vikings almost got it late with that fumble recovery for you.
00:53:58 Speaker_11
No, I thought they had it man I thought they had it when I was watching the replay of how the game ended. It's just like oh That's they're gonna leave that one like man.
00:54:08 Speaker_01
We should have won it We should have had it Vikings go up and then on but to golf's credit lines. They did not blink Not a second
00:54:18 Speaker_11
Denver 33, New Orleans 10. I'm not gonna lie, I thought New Orleans, New Orleans is banged up obviously, didn't have Carbeck there in QB. A little Sean Payton revenge game going back to his little stomping grounds where he won a Super Bowl.
00:54:32 Speaker_11
September feels like a long time ago for the Saints fans.
00:54:36 Speaker_01
for a team that started started pretty much hotter than anybody putting up 50 burgers and blowing teams out. But like you said, they've had the injury bug bad. They've had a bunch of guys especially up front.
00:54:46 Speaker_01
And as you know, once the O line has been decimated, Especially that offense, they run the, it's so much predicated on like run and play action and the outside zone working in that Kubiak system. Man.
00:54:59 Speaker_11
It's tough, man.
00:54:59 Speaker_01
It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be very tough.
00:55:02 Speaker_11
Jacksonville, 32. New England.
00:55:05 Speaker_01
New England, 16. Nice, we almost did it at the same time. We were almost in sync. Gave us a little coaching drama after the game. Pat's head coach, John Mayo, called his team soft.
00:55:17 Speaker_01
In quotes, we're a soft football team across the board We talk about what makes a tough football team and that's being able to run the ball Stop the run and that's being able to cover kicks. We did none of these I mean very few times Do I think?
00:55:35 Speaker_01
The head coach calling a team soft is like the right message to be sending even if it's like I'm all about being honest and keeping people accountable. That defense is different. They've had some injuries. They've had guys leave.
00:55:50 Speaker_01
Obviously, that defense, even last year with Bill, they were, when we played in week one, they were really good. But they also had, Judon was still there. They had a bunch of guys healthy.
00:56:00 Speaker_01
Like now, they've had some, the defense has changed a little bit. They've had guys in and out. And I got a ton of respect for Gerard Mayo. I mean, ton of respect. As a player, as a person, I've heard nothing but great stuff.
00:56:12 Speaker_01
I'm just talking about in general terms, and he could be right. I mean, maybe they are soft. I don't fucking know. I haven't watched as much tape as Gerard Mayo has. That's for damn sure.
00:56:21 Speaker_01
I just know most of the time when I hear coaches saying stuff like that, it's meaningless garbage.
00:56:26 Speaker_11
I hear you, brother. It's tough following a guy like Bill Belichick's shoes.
00:56:31 Speaker_01
Thousand percent. Maybe I'm being too up in arms about it.
00:56:34 Speaker_11
Maybe you're fucking spot on. Seattle, 34 Atlanta, 14. Seattle got some defensive players back. Gino Smith leads the NFL in passing and ranks sixth in completion percentage.
00:56:46 Speaker_04
Yeah.
00:56:46 Speaker_11
How about that? on pace for 4,821 yards at a 68% rate. All right, now. Buffalo 34, Tennessee 10. Yeah, I think everybody saw this one coming. Josh Allen, 21 for 33 for 323 yards and two touchdowns. Josh looking like Josh.
00:57:06 Speaker_11
And Mari Cooper, who had four for 66, got his first touchdown as a Bill. Here we go. Looks like the Bills are back on track. Cincinnati 21, Cleveland 14. Nick Chubb scored his first touchdown back. Shout out to Chubb. Get back out there, baby.
00:57:21 Speaker_11
over 398 days after his leg injury and versus the Steelers. Chubb is back out there playing, running the rock for the Browns.
00:57:30 Speaker_01
Green Bay 24, Houston 22. In a game that came down to the wire, but really Green Bay, without the turnovers, kind of was dominating most of this game. First victory over a team with a winning record for the Packers.
00:57:43 Speaker_01
And Houston has proven to be tough, similar to KC. They continue to just like find ways to win. Like all their games have pretty much been close, but CJ Stroud and company are just so good at the end of games.
00:57:54 Speaker_01
Packers might have the hottest vibes in the NFL right now. Let's look at this tweet. Piss hot. Well, their social media team's doing their job. How important is hot piss to success in the NFL? Uh, I don't even know how to answer this.
00:58:10 Speaker_01
Am I the only one that kind of hates social media teams for NFL teams? Like they've turned into like these meme things and like, that's all they do with play. I like, they got the cameras all around and I listen, I I'm on a podcast.
00:58:24 Speaker_01
I'm on every fucking commercial that there is. I get it. I'm part of the issue as well. I fucking hate the social media teams for teams now. I just I just cannot stand them.
00:58:33 Speaker_01
I don't know why It's like well you guys just get the fuck out of my face on this fucking worry about football and then they're like talking shit to people They're like talking shit to play like we just shit. What the fuck?
00:58:44 Speaker_11
What don't we create these this bulletin board material? Yeah, don't be creating this bulletin board material hot piss Yeah. Well, Matt LaFleur on Packers players preparing for their first noon game of the year.
00:58:57 Speaker_11
He said they got to wake up with their piss hot. So that's where the, uh, the social media team, uh, made sure it was good.
00:59:02 Speaker_01
They capitalized. They capitalized.
00:59:06 Speaker_11
Indiana 16, Miami 10, not related to the game, but dolphins are saying, uh, we could see Tua next Sunday against the Cardinals. How about it, man?
00:59:15 Speaker_01
We were talking about this on the Monday night countdown, Ryan Clark, like every single neurologist that they talked to did not say like that he should stop playing football.
00:59:26 Speaker_01
And they all don't know to what extent continuing to play football or continuing to get concussions is doing to like long term affect him. Whether anybody else wants to like talk about it, I guess I will right now.
00:59:40 Speaker_01
Like this has been the like big shadow in the distance of the NFL for the last decade ever since that concussion movie came out. Like the reality is nobody knows.
00:59:51 Speaker_01
It is scary to watch a guy go out and have the amount of concussions and the type of concussions that Tua has had and think that like he's not doing something long-term here. But the neurologist clearly don't know that he is.
01:00:03 Speaker_11
And there's no signs telling him that.
01:00:05 Speaker_01
Yeah, this is one of the things that I think the NFL really needs to do. Like I know we're doing the Guardian caps.
01:00:13 Speaker_01
They're doing a great job of instituting rules and procedures in place that limit helmet to helmet contact and protocols that allow for safer return to play.
01:00:25 Speaker_01
I really think that there should be more research done into the longevity and effects that concussions have and ways to mitigate the potential symptoms.
01:00:32 Speaker_01
Cause like, I don't know, it just feels like something that the NFL can be pioneering, especially with the amount of money that it makes and the amount of resources and attention that it gets.
01:00:41 Speaker_01
that it can be a part of potentially developing treatments, protocols, lifestyle factors that can mitigate the potential long-term ramifications of some of these things that I think is in the background of a lot of NFL players' minds.
01:00:57 Speaker_11
Yeah. Well, you just said a lot of big words and my brain is turning. And I just want to tell Tua, man, we're all supporting you, brother. Go out there and Just play healthy, man. Play this game you love, man. And wish you the best of luck, brother.
01:01:12 Speaker_11
Washington 40, Carolina 7.
01:01:14 Speaker_01
The Red Rifle Renaissance was short-lived, unfortunately, in Carolina, or has been short-lived. Got out to a fiery start, but obviously, Panthers are still not a very good football team, unfortunately. Washington 40, Carolina 7.
01:01:28 Speaker_01
The Panthers decline to even put Bryce Young in when they're down 37-0. Should they even go back to Bryce Young? I don't know if I'm Bryce Young. I don't know. Do you even want to go back in in this situation? I guess you do. You always want to play.
01:01:46 Speaker_01
I mean, they just have so many issues. Hey, it's Canales' first year and they're trying to get it fixed. Hopefully they can. Get it fixed in the future. I don't know. There's still a long season left. How do, is it, it is, it must be so hard.
01:01:59 Speaker_01
Like being that bad and knowing you still have 11 games or nine, 10 or 11. What are they at? What's the carrot? Like, bro, I'm just being honest. I've played meaningless football games and it's not fun. It is awful.
01:02:15 Speaker_01
But usually there's like two, maybe three at the end of the season that you're like really trying to hammer out week seven and you're one in six. That's a bad feeling, brother. I imagine. Let's get fired up, boys.
01:02:29 Speaker_01
Can you imagine the guy giving pregame speeches before the game when you're one and six?
01:02:37 Speaker_07
There's no speeches, Don.
01:02:38 Speaker_01
Let's go! And you're just in your head like, dude, will you shut the fuck up? We're one and six. Let's fucking just go out there and fucking- That's tough, man. We all know what's about to happen.
01:02:49 Speaker_11
Come on, man. We can't have that mentality. We can't have that mentality, man. Why are we 1-6?
01:02:57 Speaker_01
Because we're soft. All right. Pittsburgh, 37. New York Jets, 15. The controversial decision for the Steelers to start Russell Wilson over Justin Fields pays off. I mean, listen, I think Justin was playing really well. Russell got it done. I don't think
01:03:15 Speaker_01
It was weird jets have been so good defensively the last few years. Now they've got their D line has changed a lot and it feels like that's affected them quite a bit.
01:03:24 Speaker_01
It felt like Pittsburgh just made place like even on some of these deep balls that Russell through like there were some Yeah, there were some really good plays made by the wideout.
01:03:34 Speaker_11
So and the running backs running back. Had 101.
01:03:39 Speaker_01
And it was just Jay dude, he was on till now he was like, on Twitter. I mean, he told us a few weeks ago. He's like, Oh, they need to hire Mike Vrabel. Then on Twitter after the game. He's like, Oh, they shouldn't go defense.
01:03:50 Speaker_01
They can't go defensive coach again. Like he has no idea. The best part about this is every New York Jet fan has no idea why they still suck. And they're all just trying to justify why they're still terrible. And they can't figure it out. Nobody can.
01:04:04 Speaker_01
You have one of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game. a defense that was supposed to be one of the best in the NFL. You just trade for Devontae.
01:04:12 Speaker_01
And I'm scared was breeze out that all this money on the offensive line and they still can't fucking win. It's fucking crazy.
01:04:18 Speaker_11
It's football, baby.
01:04:20 Speaker_01
You just never know the fans. They're like they're starting to go crazy.
01:04:24 Speaker_11
Yeah. Well, they're not out of it.
01:04:26 Speaker_01
They're not. They're not Carolina Panthers yet.
01:04:28 Speaker_11
It's still kind of still in it. Still kind of early. And the AFC East is not like the NFC, NFC West or NFC North.
01:04:37 Speaker_01
Yeah, NFC North, yeah. It ain't the conference that's, or the division that's loaded this year. You got the Bills coming on strong now, but there'll be some space in the bottom of the playoffs on the AFC side to sneak in there.
01:04:50 Speaker_01
And you get Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs. Anything can happen. Game also gave us the Coach Quote of the Week.
01:04:56 Speaker_01
Brandon Marshall stopped by Mike Tomlin's post-game press conference and asked him if it was one of the boldest decisions ever to start Russell Wilson. And Tomlin replied, that's why I'm well compensated.
01:05:10 Speaker_07
Nice. Hell yeah, Tom.
01:05:11 Speaker_01
We could just put Coach Quote of the Week in as Mike Tomlin quote, because every week he's going to give something gold. It's the best.
01:05:19 Speaker_11
Dude, did you hear his quote a few weeks ago? I forget who they were playing, but it was like a Monday night or a Thursday night game.
01:05:26 Speaker_01
I heard it, yeah.
01:05:27 Speaker_11
He hit him with the, we gotta stop kicking our own butt. If we stop kicking our own butt, we can start focusing on theirs. It's such a banger. It's so good. He delivers it too, man. It's a fucking genuine as hell. So good.
01:05:44 Speaker_01
This is the best. Then we got the Monday night games. We had the Monday night games. The Chargers couldn't get it done against Arizona. Kyler Murray was scampering all over the place.
01:05:55 Speaker_11
He is fast, though, and those legs he did.
01:05:58 Speaker_01
He looks and feels like he's a video game and like everything about him. Like, it looks like you created a player. You made him as short as possible. His helmet's fucking enormous. And it just feet are moving so quick.
01:06:11 Speaker_13
It's so good.
01:06:12 Speaker_01
It's outrageous how, um, And his feet like I can't even describe it. He can throw the ball.
01:06:19 Speaker_11
He's got like short arms and he can still throw the ball a mile.
01:06:21 Speaker_01
He slings. It's he slings.
01:06:24 Speaker_11
It's when he's on. It is fun to watch. Fuck it.
01:06:27 Speaker_01
Baltimore 41, Tampa 31 in a game that was probably not as close as the score indicated. Tampa got out to a quick lead. Baker Mayfield had a ball in and then obviously Mike Evans goes down with the hamstring.
01:06:41 Speaker_01
And, uh, Chris got a couple of interceptions, unfortunately. And, uh, against a team like Baltimore, man, it's, it's hard, you know, any little bit of thing.
01:06:50 Speaker_11
It's hard, especially when you don't stop the run.
01:06:52 Speaker_01
Dude. Got to stop the run. They did stop the run in the first half though. They did a good job first half. They're doing good. And Lamar was actually throwing pretty damn well.
01:07:05 Speaker_11
Well, Lamar Lamar is 23 in one against NFC teams, which is a fucking mind blowing stat. His only loss is actually to Daniel Jones in New York football giants. How about that? And that does it for our week seven roundup. How about it? All right.
01:07:22 Speaker_11
All right, let's answer, uh, maybe one of your, uh, not dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions. Just dumb ass people. No dumb questions is brought to you by meta quest. That's right. Expand your world.
01:07:35 Speaker_01
Alrighty. First, no dumb question. What breed of dog would make the best quarterback?
01:07:40 Speaker_11
Hmm.
01:07:41 Speaker_01
That's actually, it's gotta be smart.
01:07:43 Speaker_11
It's actually a dumb ass question. Um, I think, I think, yeah, obviously you gotta be smart. You gotta be able to get along with other dogs.
01:07:52 Speaker_01
Oh, that's an interesting, I didn't even think about that. That's a good trait.
01:07:55 Speaker_11
So you gotta have a little bit of a friendliness to you, but you gotta be, it depends on what kind of quarterback you want.
01:08:01 Speaker_01
The one I thought about right away, because I always think about intelligence when I think of quarterbacks, is a border collie. And border collies, they herd sheep, like they're like in control animals.
01:08:11 Speaker_01
You saying they need to get along with other dogs is a great point that is making me rethink that.
01:08:17 Speaker_11
Would it be like a mixed breed?
01:08:19 Speaker_01
Well, I mean, listen, I'm a big Mutzer where it's at. There's just, you got to do it responsibly. But yeah, I think mixed breeds are when I think of dogs that get along with dogs or like anything, really, I think a golden retriever, right?
01:08:31 Speaker_01
They're just like the happiest dogs on the planet. Nine times out of 10.
01:08:34 Speaker_00
Yeah.
01:08:35 Speaker_01
Labs. German Shepherd is a powerful animal. Efficient Malamute. Is that the one that like is like the Secret Service dog? Don't know. Better. Yeah, I think it is. Got like the strongest bite force. Damn. But do you need to be tall? Should it be a big dog?
01:08:54 Speaker_01
Because it needs to be able to see over the pocket.
01:08:56 Speaker_11
Yeah, there you go. A little bit bigger. Like great Pyrenees. I see. That's the thing. I don't know a lot of breeds.
01:09:01 Speaker_01
I would say poodle, but I think they're too fancy. They're too like high maintenance. You know what I mean? Yeah. But the ones that I think are really good usually are kind of like down to earth and like with the team, like Pat's not high maintenance.
01:09:14 Speaker_01
You've seen his body. I saw there was a, there was a bit on Derrick Henry that said he doesn't eat fried food anymore. And I'm like, man, That's why I can never be a running back. That's just like too much of a commitment. I can't give up fried food.
01:09:24 Speaker_11
Yeah. I don't. I don't even. I don't think that really. Some people just love football more than me. Yeah. I don't think that means that makes you a better football player. I think that's just what he feels like he, his diet needs to be.
01:09:35 Speaker_01
I'm going to say height is important.
01:09:37 Speaker_11
Yeah.
01:09:38 Speaker_01
I want a tall quarterback that can.
01:09:39 Speaker_11
I'm going, I'm going Doberman.
01:09:41 Speaker_01
Doberman.
01:09:42 Speaker_11
Smart, athletic, tall.
01:09:44 Speaker_01
It's got a good blend of athleticism.
01:09:46 Speaker_11
I don't know if those things get along with everybody, but they're always out front, you know.
01:09:51 Speaker_01
I can't, I can't disagree with anything you just said. Definitely not an Irish Wolfhound. They are stupid as boxer rocks.
01:09:58 Speaker_07
I love my dogs.
01:09:59 Speaker_01
Your dogs are very... I mean, Nessie is, she's got some smartness to her. Oh, what was Balto? Balto was a... Husky? The Disney movie? Balto? Balto. He's like the lead sled dog in the sled dog movie?
01:10:15 Speaker_10
Sled dogs or huskies, yeah.
01:10:16 Speaker_01
Alright.
01:10:17 Speaker_10
teamwork. Huskies are good to know how to work within a team.
01:10:21 Speaker_01
Then you got the one at the front. That's like the, the, the captain.
01:10:23 Speaker_10
Yeah.
01:10:24 Speaker_01
I think I'm gonna go Husky.
01:10:25 Speaker_10
There you go.
01:10:26 Speaker_01
Big enough. Not like overly big, pretty athletic, smart work with the team. Yeah. I think that's the one.
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01:14:43 Speaker_01
The 20th overall pick in the 1998 MLB draft from the University of Hawaii, or Hawaii. He is a six-time All-Star, 2007 A.L. Cy Young Award winner, ALCS MVP, two-time MLB wins leader, and a member of the Cleveland Guardians Hall of Fame, our hometown.
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That's right, baby. Also, don't forget this, a World Series champion. Please welcome C.C. Sabathia!
01:15:10 Speaker_13
Woo! That was a hell of an intro. That was a hell of an intro. Appreciate it.
01:15:15 Speaker_01
Heck yeah, brother.
01:15:16 Speaker_11
This man is decorated, dog.
01:15:18 Speaker_01
Man, thanks for joining us, Cece. This is awesome. Can't tell you, I mean, we grew up watching you play and we saw your whole career. This is an honor to have you on with us. How's it going?
01:15:28 Speaker_05
No, it's good. I mean, it makes me feel old when I hear people say they grew up watching me play.
01:15:33 Speaker_11
Oh, listen, you already know. It's silly, man. I'm playing with guys that were born in 2004, man. How crazy is that? So I'm like, I'm sitting here like, man, I was in high school in 2004. This is crazy.
01:15:49 Speaker_05
It's crazy. You go from being like the young guy in the locker room to like the young OG, and then you're just the OG.
01:15:55 Speaker_05
Where like guys are like, yeah, I mean, you were one of my guys growing up and you got, I mean, it's good to be that guy, you know what I'm saying? But you got to accept it. It's cool.
01:16:03 Speaker_01
For sure.
01:16:03 Speaker_10
Heck yeah.
01:16:04 Speaker_01
I was there actually when you were the young guy. I bought it, man. The day you opened against the Baltimore Orioles, I was at that game and I still remember it.
01:16:15 Speaker_01
Cause you were the talk of the town coming out of nowhere, big left-hander and bro, it was awesome. Looking back, being there and watching that. I don't know what to feel like to start your major league debut. Huh?
01:16:28 Speaker_05
No, it was, it was crazy. You know what I was thinking? I mean, just being out there, I couldn't feel my legs the whole time. Like, I was like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're just so hype.
01:16:36 Speaker_05
Like, you don't, you know, you don't know what's really going on. But the whole time I was thinking, I was like, damn, I should have went to sleep last night.
01:16:42 Speaker_03
Like, it was a day game.
01:16:43 Speaker_05
It was a one o'clock game. I didn't go to sleep till like five in the morning. And then like the second day, I was like, I'm fucking exhausted right now. Like, I should have gotten some sleep.
01:16:51 Speaker_07
Bro, that adrenaline was pumping. That's too funny.
01:16:54 Speaker_05
That whole year, like 2001, I mean, that team was so great. I played with a bunch of Hall of Famers. I had Robby and Omar up the middle. And I just felt like I got a chance to learn how to be a professional. I didn't really know anything.
01:17:06 Speaker_05
I was 20 years old, man. I was fresh out of high school. A football, basketball player, really just an athlete and kind of fell into that pitcher mode. And Um, and it kind of took off.
01:17:17 Speaker_05
So, uh, yeah, I was really learning on the job and to have those type of players around me, uh, it was, it was a blessing, man. It was, it was really cool.
01:17:24 Speaker_11
That's awesome. The 90, uh, guards were some of my favorite teams ever. And like you were, you were coming into like, kind of like the tail end, a lot of those guys careers. And it was like, man, they're about to just hand this thing off to CeCe.
01:17:38 Speaker_11
He's about to take us right back to the World Series. We already know. And no, man, it was awesome. I remember Jason talking about that Baltimore game, man, is absolutely insane. I was going to ask you, I had no idea you were at the University of Hawaii.
01:17:51 Speaker_11
Same.
01:17:53 Speaker_05
No, so I didn't go. I had a football scholarship to play there. When I was in high school, I played football, I played basketball, I played baseball, I played everything. And I could never get a school to commit to me.
01:18:05 Speaker_05
Like UCLA would say, okay, you can come here to play baseball, but we don't want you to play football. USC would be like, we want you to play football, but we don't want you to play baseball.
01:18:13 Speaker_05
I thought as soon as I got on the campus and somebody saw me, they was going to turn me into an offensive tackle. But I wanted to make sure that I still could play baseball. So the guy in Hawaii was like, we'll let you play badminton here.
01:18:24 Speaker_05
We don't give a shit. So I was like, that's where I'm going right there. So I ended up signing to go to Hawaii and never went scholarship because I got drafted.
01:18:32 Speaker_01
For sure. Well, that's a good reason not to go. We had this later in the rundown, but because we're talking about it right now, We got your highlights. Bro, you were a baller in football.
01:18:45 Speaker_12
Big, big as hell. He was a dog.
01:18:47 Speaker_01
Can you put this on here? There we go. Thank you, Brandon. Check him out. Look at the big fella.
01:18:52 Speaker_13
Bro, I'm the same size right now than I was back then.
01:18:56 Speaker_01
You are enormous. I don't think you're playing tackle, bro. You're playing tight end.
01:19:00 Speaker_05
Nah, but you gotta think. You gotta think. As soon as I got on, I was 250 right there. As soon as I got into pro ball, I was 285 immediately. Wow. So I would have made for a good tackle.
01:19:11 Speaker_11
That's too funny, man. You are athletic as all get out, man. Golly. What was your favorite sport? My favorite sport was football. I love playing football.
01:19:21 Speaker_01
What'd you like so much about football?
01:19:23 Speaker_05
Football was always my favorite sport. I always grew up playing it out in the streets, and I just always understood football. I could sit down and watch a whole game, and I was just always intrigued by it.
01:19:35 Speaker_05
So I didn't get a chance to play it until I was in high school because of the weight limits and all of that stuff.
01:19:41 Speaker_11
Oh man, you already know.
01:19:42 Speaker_05
I grew up playing soccer, you know what I mean? I grew up playing soccer as a kid and then I got to my freshman year and then just fell in love with the game of football. So it was always my favorite. They didn't have the Southpaw out there slinging it?
01:19:54 Speaker_05
Nah, well, I tried that, man. So my first two years, I played quarterback. And then I showed up my junior year, bro, I was 6'6", 250. They were like, yeah, we're going to need to put you at tight end.
01:20:07 Speaker_09
You can help us out a lot more right here, catching the ball. I get it, man. I got a similar story.
01:20:12 Speaker_01
Before we get into the Indian stuff, obviously everybody's talking about the World Series happening right now. Your former team, the Yankees, taking on the Dodgers. I guess let's step into that real quick. What do you think about the matchup?
01:20:24 Speaker_05
No, I think this is the biggest, best matchup that I feel like we could have had in baseball. The biggest stars are on stage.
01:20:32 Speaker_05
I mean, we got Shohei Otani, we got Aaron Judge, you got Juan Soto, you got Mookie Betts, you got Walker Buehler, you got Garrett Cole. The list just goes on and on. You got New York against Hollywood.
01:20:43 Speaker_05
I mean, I think this is the World Series that everybody's kind of been begging for for the last 10 years, you know, and we finally got the matchup. So I'm super excited for, you know, what's to come.
01:20:53 Speaker_05
And to be honest, just watching these playoffs, every game has been exciting. Man, like even just the Guardians and Yankee series.
01:21:00 Speaker_05
I mean, it went, you know, he won five games, but every game was, was, you know, right down there to the nail guys hitting big homers. And what I've loved about this playoffs the most is like the stars have been delivering.
01:21:11 Speaker_05
It's been Juan Soto delivering. It's been Aaron Judge. It's been Otani going off. So, you know, we're seeing our biggest stars on the biggest stage and they're, they're showing up and they're showing out.
01:21:22 Speaker_05
And, uh, I'm excited for this, for this Friday to see, you know, these two heavyweights go at it.
01:21:27 Speaker_11
I am getting pumped up for it too, man. I just, I love going to World Series games, man. I think I've made it to like six of the last seven. I think since 2000, what was it? 15, when the Royals won it.
01:21:39 Speaker_11
That was like my first experience of like World Series baseball. And I was like, man, these games are fucking lit.
01:21:46 Speaker_12
God, lit.
01:21:49 Speaker_11
Like it was lit in Kansas City, like when the Yankees, when you were, what was it, 0-9? When you guys won it, like how crazy were those games? Was it still the, was it the new stadium or was that the old?
01:22:04 Speaker_05
It was the first year in a new stadium. So it was almost like we had to kind of win, you know? So it was that pressure of, you know, the boss bringing, you know, he had signed me, AJ, Tex, signed for Nick, I mean, traded for Nick Swisher.
01:22:17 Speaker_05
So it was kind of the pressure of, you know, us wanting to win in a new stadium. But we had the whole, the core four. So like at this time, somebody asked me yesterday, like, how did you feel at this time going into the World Series?
01:22:29 Speaker_05
I was calm because we, I just, I had Derek, I had Mo, I had Andy, you had Jorge. I had all these guys that had been there before. I'm just kind of riding on their coattails. You know what I mean? Like, I had kind of figured out during that year.
01:22:42 Speaker_05
No, but I figured out during that year that if I just did my little part and not try to do too much, I feel like, you know, it helped me be able to be better in those bigger moments. I feel like in Cleveland, in 07, we had the best team in the league.
01:22:56 Speaker_05
We were young. I was the leader of that staff. And I feel like if I pitch better and if I'm able to, you know, put stuff, you know, if I'm able to make those moments a little smaller and, you know, be able to show up bigger in those moments,
01:23:09 Speaker_05
we win the World Series. So that's why I was just, you know what I mean? Like trying to learn from those experiences in 07 and 08.
01:23:15 Speaker_05
And in 09, I'm just like, I'm just right behind these guys and doing my little thing and, you know, end up, you know, with a ring.
01:23:21 Speaker_11
Man, I feel you on that one. And I ended up obviously sticking around in KC, but like learning from the moments that I had previous in the playoffs, man. It's like you look at those moments like, man, I could have, I had control of that.
01:23:35 Speaker_11
If I could have just tweaked it here, if I could have showed up for my guys right here, right here, man, you just know that you could have definitely propelled the team. And that's the greatness that you bring to the game, big dog.
01:23:45 Speaker_05
But that's me with the city of Cleveland, though, in that organization. Because I feel like it's just been starving for a World Series. And 07, we were closed. 16, they were closed. 16, yeah. But that team in 07 was really, really good. And who knows?
01:24:00 Speaker_05
We may stay together. I may not end up a Yankee if we win the Royal Series in 07. You know what I'm saying? You never know how stuff turn out.
01:24:08 Speaker_01
You know what I'm saying? They didn't have the pocketbooks to keep it. You never know. Let me ask you this because Philadelphia the Phillies have been close the last few years.
01:24:25 Speaker_01
You were just talking about the locker room and like the core for what is it that enables a team that has like the talent to do it between getting it done and knocking it down? What do you really think that is in baseball specifically?
01:24:37 Speaker_05
It's just momentum, to be honest. If you look at the Phillies running into the Mets, it was just they played them at the wrong time.
01:24:45 Speaker_01
Hot bats.
01:24:47 Speaker_05
Hot bats. And then sometimes when you play those teams in your division, you look at the Phillies when they beat Atlanta a couple years ago, when Atlanta was the best team in the league. When you go and play teams in your division in the playoffs,
01:24:57 Speaker_05
Like, the Mets don't care about going into Philly. You know what I'm saying? That's a big advantage for the Phillies. Like, going into Citizens Bank and, like, having to play, you know, in that park. The Mets do that shit all the time.
01:25:09 Speaker_05
So, it doesn't bother them. They can go in there in October and show up and, you know, hit big home runs. So, it just, it makes it hard when you play those teams in your division.
01:25:19 Speaker_05
And I think those three teams, for the next five years, are going to be battling it out for the division and to see who's getting to the NLCS, to be honest. Nice.
01:25:28 Speaker_01
Who do you think is going to take the World Series if you don't mind me asking?
01:25:31 Speaker_05
Is that true? I got to go with the Yankees. I got to feel it. I think it's going to be a long series though. I mean, I have friends. I mean, I'm really close with Mookie Betts. I'm really close with Freddie Freeman. You know, I root for those guys too.
01:25:45 Speaker_05
But, you know, being here, being a Yankee, being, you know, in New York, you know, I really, I've just been watching this team all year and it would, It would be big for us and me if they were winning the World Series.
01:25:57 Speaker_05
So I'm excited and hopefully they can get it done.
01:26:00 Speaker_01
Awesome. Do you have a favorite stories from your time with the Yankees or the Guardians? Favorite teammates maybe? You played with some iconic people, especially with the Yankees, obviously. But anything you want to share?
01:26:15 Speaker_05
Yeah, I've got a chance. I got lucky, man. I got a chance to play with some Hall of Famers, like I said, in Cleveland. Yeah, playing with Tone, Robby and Omar up the middle. I can give you a quick Robby Alomar story.
01:26:30 Speaker_05
He's probably, not probably, he's the smartest baseball player I ever played with. My rookie year, I go 17-5 that rookie year, 2001, and I'm starting game three of the DS against Seattle. Playing at home,
01:26:44 Speaker_05
And the first thing, I think I gave up a run or two, maybe even three runs in the first inning. And I'm a little nervous. I mean, I'm 21 years old. You know, it's my first playoff game.
01:26:53 Speaker_11
Crazy.
01:26:53 Speaker_05
I'm walking off the field and Robbie comes running by me. He goes, hey, Papi, what's wrong? And he goes, you're a little nervous. And I go, yeah, I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I'm a little nervous, but I'll be fine. And he was like, he came to me.
01:27:05 Speaker_05
I sat down on the bench. He came to me. He was like, don't shake Eno off the rest of the game. Like whatever he puts down, just, just throw the pitch and, you know, we'll live with it.
01:27:14 Speaker_10
Lean on your guy.
01:27:15 Speaker_05
He was at second. Enar was a rookie, too. He was at second base, giving Enar the pitches. He called the game from second base. I didn't give up a run for the rest of the game. He called the game from second base. However, he was giving Enar the signals.
01:27:29 Speaker_05
He was giving Enar the signals, and he was giving me the pitches. And I won six innings, gave up three runs. I didn't give up a run the rest of the game.
01:27:36 Speaker_01
That's you ever heard of that? Have you ever heard of a second base doing? I've never heard of that. No, that's amazing, bro.
01:27:41 Speaker_11
You think him and him and Sandy just him and Sandy just talk so much that Roberto ended up finding a way to like kind of pick Sandy Alomar's brain, his brother's brain, or was he just.
01:27:52 Speaker_05
I think that and just him, just the ability of just being able to, he just knew the game. Like he would always, and that's how I kind of, I learned pitching from sitting next to great hitters.
01:28:01 Speaker_05
Whether it was him or Eddie Murray, you know, I would sit on the bench and these guys would know what was coming next. You know what I'm saying? Just by whatever the count was, who the guy was on the mound, you know, who the guy was in the box.
01:28:14 Speaker_05
And that's how I kind of learned how to sequence my pitches and kind of learned how, you know, to read guys' swings and different things like that. I didn't watch a lot of video. I would just read guys' swings and kind of pitch to my strengths.
01:28:25 Speaker_05
And I got that from sitting next to guys like Robbie and Eddie Murray and Juan Gonzalez and just really soaking in from hitters.
01:28:31 Speaker_01
One of the things I think is the coolest thing in baseball is that, that cat and mouse chess match is going on between the hitter and the pitcher and the catcher, like what you're deciding to throw, how you're setting pitches up, like what, how much goes into it from like a game plan before the game and like knowing what each batter's weakness is, how much of it is, you know, what your, cause everybody knows your fastball and slider were like the biggest things you got, you had going on, but like what goes into the pitch selection,
01:29:01 Speaker_01
That process, I don't even know how to ask the question, but it's something that's cool as heck watching.
01:29:06 Speaker_05
Yeah. No, it is. I mean, and it's a lot that it just depends on the guy, right? Like a guy like Garrett Cole does a lot of prepping. Like he sits down and he does a lot of prepping. He's going through, you know, every lineup, every scenario, every hitter.
01:29:21 Speaker_05
And he's a guy that can tailor his game. He can throw every pitch for a strike. Any and every quadrant.
01:29:27 Speaker_02
Right.
01:29:27 Speaker_05
So he can pitch really to guys' weaknesses, where a guy like me, what you just said, my fastball, my slider, my strength, right? So I got to stick to my strength.
01:29:35 Speaker_05
So if it's a guy like Mike Trout that's good on sliders, and the slider's my strength, well, we gonna see who's fucking better today. Like, I can't do what I can't do. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I can only do what I can do.
01:29:48 Speaker_05
So, my strengths are my strengths.
01:29:50 Speaker_05
So, once I figured that out about myself, it was less prep for me because now I can just go out and really just pitch to my strengths and really, you know, command the plate the way I know how to and not try to worry about what everybody else is doing.
01:30:03 Speaker_05
So, it didn't really do me any good to watch anybody else's film because I'm not going to pitch the way that guy pitched you anyway. I'm going to go to what I can do, what I have that day, and we're going to figure it out.
01:30:15 Speaker_05
It was always just a lot about me reading swings and figuring out what I had that day. My catchers did a lot of prep and I relied on them a lot. I didn't shake off a lot. Whatever they put down, I would just throw a conviction and we're going with it.
01:30:30 Speaker_01
One of the reasons I think it fascinates me is because I feel like the pitcher-catcher relationship is very similar to the center quarterback relationship for what you just said.
01:30:37 Speaker_05
I was getting ready to say that.
01:30:38 Speaker_01
There's a lot of communication back and forth. You each have prepared in your own way to be ready for the game, and you kind of, the best tandems figure it out together. But what do you think of the modern state of pitching, man?
01:30:50 Speaker_01
I don't know what to make, like,
01:30:52 Speaker_11
Jason's talking about moving the mound back. He said it's too easy.
01:30:55 Speaker_01
No, man.
01:30:55 Speaker_11
It's too easy to pitch these days, man.
01:30:58 Speaker_05
Get this jabroni out of here, man. It's not too easy to pitch. These guys, the hitting philosophy has changed. These guys don't try to put the ball in play as much as they did anymore. Now it's just all about launching and getting their A-swing off.
01:31:12 Speaker_05
And the lineups are constructed where you have to kind of pitch through the lineup. Everybody's trying to do one thing in a lineup and that's just hit the ball over the left field wall or the right field wall.
01:31:23 Speaker_05
So that makes it a lot easier for me to pitch when all you're trying to do in every single count is just jack a ball over the wall and not trying to put the ball in play or not trying to put the barrel on it.
01:31:32 Speaker_05
And that's what made the Guardians so good.
01:31:34 Speaker_11
They were just finding a way to get on base. Yeah.
01:31:37 Speaker_05
Yeah, last year, really great. They didn't hit for a lot of power, but they were on base and they can put the ball in play there and strike out a lot.
01:31:42 Speaker_05
This year, they were doing that where they put the ball in play and not striking a lot, but then hitting for slugging. They were hitting doubles and homers and Naylor and, you know, Ramirez. So that's what made them so great this year.
01:31:53 Speaker_05
So I think the game is kind of coming back and reverting back to where, you know, it's more emphasis on putting the ball in play and not just, you know, exit v-low and launch angle.
01:32:04 Speaker_05
And I think we've been changing the rules so much for hitters that it's kind of swinging where you have to change the philosophy. We can't keep changing the fucking rules. We can't keep changing the rules when these guys want to hit 230 with 30.
01:32:18 Speaker_05
You know what I'm saying?
01:32:19 Speaker_11
You sound like me and Jason when they keep changing these rules in football, man.
01:32:23 Speaker_05
Oh, my God. But you know what's crazy is that like, it's cool and I mean, I'm sure it's frustrating for you guys, but as a fan of the NFL, it's cool that they're willing to try different rules and change different things about the game.
01:32:36 Speaker_05
Where in baseball, it took us forever to get rid of the shift where we all knew that that was the right thing to do, right? Or put the pitch clock in.
01:32:43 Speaker_05
So it's just baseball, you know, we get so much grief when we change the rules where now I'm watching the fucking kickoff in the NFL and I've never even, you know what I'm saying? But as a fan, it's cool to see that. And the NBA does that.
01:32:55 Speaker_05
I feel like baseball, we need to, you know, stay up to speed with, you know, keeping our game relevant. And I think, I feel like this year we've been seeing the payoffs from that.
01:33:04 Speaker_01
It's definitely feel like it's led to more exciting play. It feels like it's led to more offensive production. Some of the rules they've changed.
01:33:11 Speaker_05
The games are shorter. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You can watch a full game and not feel like it's taking up your whole day and we're not missing any action.
01:33:19 Speaker_01
Right, right. How do you think you would have handled the pitch counts and the less… I feel like you were still pitching full games at times in your career. That never happens anymore. Has that happened once in the playoffs so far?
01:33:34 Speaker_01
Has there been a starting pitcher that's pitched all nine innings yet? I don't think so.
01:33:39 Speaker_05
That would be. That's a great question. I don't think there's been a guy that's thrown a complete game yet. And no, I wouldn't have done well with it. Not in my prime.
01:33:48 Speaker_09
I mean, you know what I'm saying? Don't take my happy off the mound.
01:33:51 Speaker_05
Oh, it's not happening. I watched one of these guys, one of these aces come out. It was the fifth inning, he had 89 pitches with no gripes. Like, if that was back in the day, I mean, there's no chance. That wouldn't even have been thought.
01:34:03 Speaker_02
You know what I'm saying?
01:34:04 Speaker_05
Like, you don't even get off the bench until I got 120 pitches in the playoffs. So it's a different philosophy. But I feel like everybody's built these super bullpens.
01:34:14 Speaker_05
where, you know, you look at... Yeah, you look at the two teams that are in the World Series, like, they're gonna be games where it's gonna be reliever that's gonna start the game in the World Series.
01:34:23 Speaker_08
That's crazy.
01:34:24 Speaker_05
You know what I'm saying? So, just the way that the teams and the rosters are constructed, the bullpens are the best part of these guys, these organization's teams.
01:34:33 Speaker_11
Back on to the World Series, you think Sheltani finds a way to throw an inning here or there?
01:34:39 Speaker_05
Man, it'd be crazy if he closed out a game, right? Woo, man, I'm not gonna lie, that would be nuts.
01:34:45 Speaker_11
That would be nuts. You wanna talk about bringing baseball, yeah, that's awesome, man.
01:34:49 Speaker_05
I mean, I think, you know, the Dodgers is short, you know what I'm saying, on pitching. I mean, if he's healthy enough, why not bring him back, you know?
01:34:56 Speaker_07
Right.
01:34:56 Speaker_05
Yeah. That's what you paid him to do. And he can do it at a high level and he's been throwing. So, if he's healthy, I mean, I don't see why not. I'd be interested to see how they use him going forward anyway.
01:35:07 Speaker_05
You know, if he's going to be a starter, if he's going to be, you know, long relief out of the bullpen. I mean, I'll be interested to see and maybe we can get a preview right here. Nice. There we go.
01:35:15 Speaker_11
Well, my guy, Anthony Rizzo was caught, uh, always calling the bullpen, uh, in the fourth inning, prank calling the bullpen. And in the fourth inning, it got out that he was doing that all year this year.
01:35:26 Speaker_11
Did you guys ever have that on any of your teams? You have somebody that was always prank calling you guys in the bullpen or.
01:35:32 Speaker_05
Now, you know, who was the biggest breaker on all the teams that I played with was Brett Gardner. But, uh, I mean, he would do. I mean, like, wow, crazy.
01:35:40 Speaker_05
I mean, at one time, we had our video guy, he took his starter for his key, he took the battery out. So this guy took the truck, he bought a brand new truck, he took the battery out of the The unlock button.
01:35:58 Speaker_05
So the guy takes the truck back to the GNC place and is like, oh, you know, something's wrong with the truck. They give him a new one, he takes it out again.
01:36:05 Speaker_05
And then when they open it up, he had put a picture of himself this size in the battery thing in there. That's a good bit right there. But when you said in the bullpen, man, the whole time, like your stomach is just hurting, right?
01:36:23 Speaker_05
Like as a bull, cause you don't know, as soon as the phone ring, you're like, this is me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, is it for me? Do I need to get ready?
01:36:29 Speaker_11
Especially in a big moment in the playoffs.
01:36:32 Speaker_05
So I can only imagine every fourth inning, like he's calling down there and like, somebody's like, damn, they're about to shit on themselves getting ready.
01:36:39 Speaker_11
I want to hear one of these things, man. They got to record one of these things. Is he calling like the pizza? Like delivery guy, like, hey, can I put in an order for a pepperoni, a 12-inch pepperoni, and you got the hot wings today?
01:36:55 Speaker_11
I gotta hear one of these things. Rizzo's funny as hell for that.
01:36:58 Speaker_05
Nah, they definitely should record it. Rizzo is funny. And that's a, like I said, I mean, that's a good way to loosen it up and keep it light.
01:37:06 Speaker_05
But it's hard, man, during the baseball season to have different ways to, you know, it get monogamous, you know, 162 throughout the season.
01:37:15 Speaker_01
How do you guys get ready for 162 games? Jesus. Like, I know pitchers obviously not doing all of them.
01:37:21 Speaker_13
It's crazy to even think about, man. I was about to say. Yeah.
01:37:25 Speaker_01
It's insane to me that there's that many games. As a football player, once a week, that feels like too much. But three games a week? Four games at a time?
01:37:36 Speaker_05
Every day. I mean, it's every single day. But I feel like your schedule with football is like you're home all week, right? But every day you're up. from like nine to five, like meetings from nine to five. Yeah. So it's just like, so every day is meeting.
01:37:51 Speaker_05
So it's, I mean, it's basic. So, so for us, basically the same thing, like we know we have to be up at the park by the buses at two, two 30.
01:37:58 Speaker_02
Got it.
01:37:59 Speaker_05
Our day really don't start until like 11. Yeah.
01:38:02 Speaker_02
Yeah.
01:38:02 Speaker_05
So you get up, I mean, do whatever you need to do. Buses at two game at seven. I mean, it just becomes, it comes, it becomes a part of your life.
01:38:12 Speaker_02
There you go.
01:38:13 Speaker_05
For me as like a pitcher, watching position players, like I would always ask, I'm like, how do you guys do this shit every day? Or like Jorge, catching 140 out of 120. You know what I'm saying?
01:38:24 Speaker_05
Like throughout the summer and you got these different pitchers and guys coming in. So being a position player in the big leagues is vastly underrated. I feel like doing what Kyle Rifkin did is incredibly underrated.
01:38:37 Speaker_05
And we'll never ever be fucking touched again. Nobody will ever come close to doing that.
01:38:43 Speaker_09
They won't let you.
01:38:43 Speaker_05
So, no, they won't even, I mean, yeah, it's, I mean, in every sport though, right? Like, every sport now they have load management where guys ain't playing. I mean, I just saw M.B. say he'll never play a back-to-back again in his career. That's crazy.
01:38:56 Speaker_05
Yes. I mean, it's just a different mentality. It sounds crazy to me, too. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, it's just one of those things where, you know, you're watching these guys get up and do this every single day.
01:39:08 Speaker_05
And that's why, for me, I love to watch like the guys now like Manny Machado or Freddie Freeman or Mookie. These guys post. And I know how hard that is to do in this day and age. And you got to tip your hat to these guys.
01:39:21 Speaker_11
I mean, Freddie with his ankle right now.
01:39:23 Speaker_05
Freddie with his ankle right now.
01:39:25 Speaker_11
He is literally hobbling around the first base.
01:39:28 Speaker_05
But do you know how inspiring that is for other players to see a guy go through a whole summer? Yes. And then, you know what I'm saying? That's a huge rallying thing for the locker room.
01:39:39 Speaker_13
That's a guy I want on my team.
01:39:41 Speaker_05
Give me that guy.
01:39:42 Speaker_13
Yeah. I'm not trying to be funny, but 30% of Freddie Freeman is better than 100% of anybody else. Shit, give me that guy, bro.
01:39:53 Speaker_01
Hell yeah. We're going to get to this, to the start of your career with the Guardians, but we were talking about rules and how they've changed some things. I got to ask you this question. What is one rule that you would change to make baseball better?
01:40:06 Speaker_05
The biggest rule I would change to make baseball better, it would be every getaway day. So every game that you play on the road at getaway day, it would have to be a day game. So like, so like you guys, so like every game, so like as a Yankee,
01:40:20 Speaker_05
We come in to play the Phillies on a Thursday. I would want that to be a day game and not a seven o'clock game so I can get out. Not a night game. If that's a day game, we can get into the next city or get home at a reasonable hour.
01:40:32 Speaker_05
But the Yankees, we always, because we're always the gate for the Dodgers or Boston or whoever else, then we always get a night game. And then we are in at four or five in the morning with a game the next day.
01:40:43 Speaker_05
So it would be universal getaway day has to be a day game.
01:40:47 Speaker_11
I mean, that seems fair. For sure. It definitely seems fair.
01:40:50 Speaker_05
It seems fair, right? But that shit don't happen, man.
01:40:54 Speaker_11
Have the players presented that as an option?
01:40:56 Speaker_05
It only affects such a small portion of the league that nobody has really presented it. That makes sense.
01:41:05 Speaker_07
Yeah.
01:41:05 Speaker_05
But I have been, you know, in the league office, I've been saying, you know, that we need to correct this and get, you know, make it an even playing field travel-wise for everybody.
01:41:14 Speaker_05
Because I feel like that's such a big thing now with guys, you know, with their sleep and, you know, getting their rest.
01:41:19 Speaker_05
And I feel like it puts some of these bigger market teams, the Phillies, the Dodgers, the Yankees, at a disadvantage when they're getting in at five in the morning to every city.
01:41:28 Speaker_01
The TV networks want to keep them night games too, just because it's like primetime and stuff like that. But sometimes you got to look out for the players for sure.
01:41:35 Speaker_05
Yeah, especially when you're playing 162 throughout the summer. Fuck you, but we give us one or two.
01:41:39 Speaker_01
You know what I'm saying? We got plenty of TV games.
01:41:44 Speaker_11
So I saw you at the, actually last year's World Series. I saw you down there in Dallas and I realized that you're staying involved with the MLB. You're in like an ambassador's program. Is there, is there, can you elaborate on it?
01:41:56 Speaker_05
Yeah. So I started working with the league in 2021 as a special assistant to the commissioner. Helped them with players, appellate relations. I have a lot of relationship within the league. You know, we go around and do meetings and,
01:42:08 Speaker_05
you know, and let Rob get in front of the players and, you know, any questions that they have, they can kind of, you know, address him right in front of them, you know, and have these meetings. When I was playing, I didn't have that access.
01:42:19 Speaker_05
I feel like it's kind of helped, you know, with player relations or having guys feel comfortable coming to the league office with, you know, whatever problem that they have. You know, I was able this last year to do, you know, some things at Rickwood.
01:42:32 Speaker_05
We had the game at Rickwood, Alabama, between the Giants and the Cardinals. I threw a big softball game down there, you know, just kind of honoring Willie Mays. So I've been able to stay, you know, in the league office and stay within the game.
01:42:45 Speaker_05
And that's been a lot of fun. And for me, when I got done playing, I retired, I was like, ah, I'm done with baseball. Like, I won't be around baseball. I won't watch baseball. I'm a huge fucking baseball fan.
01:42:56 Speaker_03
I love baseball.
01:42:58 Speaker_05
We're a baseball family. So it just keeps me in the game, man. I love it, man.
01:43:01 Speaker_11
Hell yeah. CC, have you thought about getting into the broadcasting stuff? I know you'll dabble a little bit here and there, but have you ever got approached by some of the networks or thought about doing it?
01:43:12 Speaker_05
Yeah, you know what? My last year in 2019, I actually worked at ESPN when GetUp first opened, when they first opened that Seaport studio. Yes. Yeah. It was good for me to be able to do that. And I was like, yeah, nah, this is not what I want to do.
01:43:26 Speaker_05
Because if that next year I would have signed up and I would have did, you know what I mean? I would have went full bore. And like, I don't like, I feel like I can talk about sports in my own way and not be in a suit.
01:43:38 Speaker_05
I don't want to be dressed up talking about, you know what I'm saying? And I watch all sports. And for me, I want to talk about every sport. I watch a lot of NFL. I watch a lot of basketball.
01:43:49 Speaker_05
Obviously, I love baseball, but I mean, I want to talk about everything. And I feel like, you know, when I was at ESPN, they just had me only talking about baseball.
01:43:56 Speaker_09
Nice, well, let's talk about some other sports. I think we got, we play the Las Vegas Raiders this week, man. I heard, I think you might be a Raiders fan.
01:44:10 Speaker_13
I am not a Raiders fan anymore, not for the rest of this season.
01:44:14 Speaker_05
I'm on it with Saquon and the Eagles, bro.
01:44:22 Speaker_13
The Raiders just, they make it so hard to be a fan, bro.
01:44:26 Speaker_05
Like, from trading Devontae to not getting a quarterback in the offseason to just everything that goes on. I'm a diehard, you know, I'm a diehard Raider fan. Like, it runs through my blood. I have to go through
01:44:40 Speaker_05
one or two games a season where I'm in Vegas, I have to go to a game in person. And I did that last week. I went to my Steelers game and the Raiders Steelers game, but it's hard. It's so hard. I have to root for a winner, man.
01:44:52 Speaker_05
And I feel like the Eagles are going to bring me some joy here on the East Coast. So I'm rolling with the Eagles, dawg.
01:44:58 Speaker_01
We got to get to a game, man. We got to go. What's your favorite sport to watch then? Besides baseball, is the NFL the next thing you like watching the most?
01:45:06 Speaker_05
Yeah, you had the NFL and then basketball, obviously, but I watch a lot of Premier League soccer. I go over to watch a lot of soccer. I'm actually going over next month to watch Real Madrid, watching Bopé over there.
01:45:17 Speaker_05
Like I said, when I was saying earlier, I couldn't play Pop Warner football growing up, so I had to play soccer. My dad was like, you're going to play something in the winter. So he had me playing soccer and I kind of fell in love with it.
01:45:27 Speaker_05
And like I said, I understood a lot of sports when I was young and I really just fell in love with it. So I still go over there and watch a lot of Premier.
01:45:34 Speaker_11
I feel like we, all three of us kind of have that similar like appreciation for all sports and understanding all the games rule or yeah, every, each game's rules and everything. Tell me this though, man, cause you, you could play in high school.
01:45:46 Speaker_11
We were talking about it earlier. We saw the highlights. Do you, sometimes you watch the, you watch these NFL games. You're like, man, I could've did, I can do that.
01:45:54 Speaker_13
I could've done that. Absolutely not. I'm not going to sit here and disrespect you guys like that.
01:46:01 Speaker_05
I wouldn't take it as disrespect. I wouldn't take it as disrespect. I mean, yeah, I was pretty good in high school. I don't know how I would have went in college.
01:46:08 Speaker_05
Like I said, that first year when I got drafted by the Indians back then, I was 255 pounds. I went home that off-season when I came back in February, I was like 285, 290.
01:46:18 Speaker_05
So I'm telling you, if I show up on a college campus, I'm an offensive tackle right away. So you know what I'm saying? Life might have been a little different. No, I mean, I appreciate what you guys can do out there.
01:46:32 Speaker_05
And no, I mean, it would have been interesting, but I don't know if I could have played as long as I played in baseball in the NFL.
01:46:39 Speaker_11
Man, 19 in football is insane. I mean, my guy, Mercedes Lewis, though, he's doing a tight end right now. He's in his 19th year. And man, hats off to Sadie's. He's unbelievable throughout his entire career.
01:46:52 Speaker_11
I remember watching him over there in Jacksonville and just in awe that I'm still, you know, he's still in the league doing it at the highest level, man. Which is crazy.
01:46:59 Speaker_11
AJ Brown, Philadelphia Eagle himself, has said he can play in the MLB, stands on it every time he's been asked about it. Do you think he could touch anybody in the league?
01:47:14 Speaker_05
You know what? I've seen AJ swing and I've watched. He was like a pretty good player. I saw him do some perfect game. He went through like the high level perfect game stuff.
01:47:22 Speaker_05
So yeah, I think any guy like that that played baseball for that long throughout high school has a chance to still play and swing a bat. You can see Donovan Mitchell, a guy like Donovan Mitchell. He can, you know, he still swings. He can still play.
01:47:33 Speaker_05
I feel like Kyler Murray. Yeah, he was... You know, he played baseball through college. So I feel like...
01:47:40 Speaker_11
Pat Mahomes out there playing baseball.
01:47:43 Speaker_05
Pat was a really good baseball player. Yeah. And I feel like it shows up a lot in his football game. Just watching him, like, he runs around out there kind of like a shortstop. He's flipping the ball with both hands.
01:47:53 Speaker_02
Isn't it crazy?
01:47:54 Speaker_05
You know, he's throwing from every angle. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of the good quarterbacks are like that, where they're like, it's like the baseball effect where you can kind of throw from, you know, all the angles.
01:48:04 Speaker_11
Yeah, it's a whole nother skill set. Really. He's just out there almost like a and one basketball player, somebody that's at the park that really knows how to dribble the just different or have their own version of it, man.
01:48:14 Speaker_11
Well, actually, how what do you think the easier transition is baseball to football or football to baseball?
01:48:20 Speaker_05
I think it would be baseball to football. I think it would be harder to transition from football to baseball. I mean, and this is even, like, for me, when I got drafted, because I was a football player, you know what I mean? I was just an athlete.
01:48:35 Speaker_05
I got drafted in the first round. Even when I got drafted, I was on the phone with Dan O'Dowd, and I'm like, am I playing first base or am I pitching? Like, I had no idea, you know what I mean? And in my mind, I was like, hey, I can go play baseball.
01:48:45 Speaker_05
I can take this million dollars. I can do this for two years, and I can go back to college. Chris Winkie had just did that. You know what I'm saying?
01:48:52 Speaker_05
So like there's guys, there was examples of me, like there was examples of guys that had took the baseball money and then went back to college to play football.
01:48:59 Speaker_05
And I was like, all right, so if this shit don't work out, then I can just go back and play football. And that was always my fallback plan. I think it would be a lot easier if you're doing both.
01:49:08 Speaker_05
If you pick baseball, you can always fall back to go play football.
01:49:11 Speaker_11
We tried to have a fallback guy, Tim Tebow, do it not too long ago, man. Tebow is in the minors a little bit. There have been some guys that have tried. How difficult is it to get drafted and then immediately go into the minors?
01:49:25 Speaker_05
It's extremely hard. Especially from high school, right? Like, somebody like me, you know, I was a guy, like, I went from my mom washing my uniform after the game to, like, now I'm a percussionist. You know what I'm saying?
01:49:38 Speaker_05
Like, this is every single day. Like, in high school, you're playing Tuesdays, maybe Fridays. And then when you turn pro, like, I was 17 years old still. I didn't turn 18 until, you know, three weeks after I got drafted.
01:49:50 Speaker_05
So, like, I didn't know how to wash clothes. Like, they just drop you off in the middle of North Carolina. And you're a pro. You got to figure out how to get to the ballpark. You know what I'm saying? You got to figure out how to manage your money.
01:50:02 Speaker_05
You got to figure out what you're going to eat, how much fuel you're going to have, you know, throughout the day, how to work out, how to do kind of everything. So you go from being like an amateur, and you're literally, you're a pro.
01:50:13 Speaker_05
And it's just you and a bunch of other high school cats and, you know, 15 other Dominican guys that's trying, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all literally down there trying to figure it out. Like, it's just like, It was a culture shock. It was rough.
01:50:27 Speaker_05
I mean, the first three nights of my professional career, I called home crying. I was like, if I come home, do I got to get his money back? And my mom was like, you better stay right there.
01:50:37 Speaker_03
Good advice, mom.
01:50:41 Speaker_09
Do not leave until it's shot clear.
01:50:44 Speaker_13
If it's shot clear, then you can come home.
01:50:49 Speaker_05
It's pretty rough, Mike. So that's why, I mean, I have a junior in college right now. He goes to the University of Houston. And I wanted him to get that college experience.
01:50:57 Speaker_05
I wanted him to be able to grow up, be a man before he entered that minor league because, you know, he didn't have to make a decision. I had to make that decision because me and my mom needed the money. He didn't have to make that decision.
01:51:09 Speaker_05
He can grow up. You know, go out and play some college baseball, grow, mature, and then become a pro. I hear you.
01:51:16 Speaker_01
Man, we got to get to Cleveland.
01:51:17 Speaker_11
Yeah. Well, you already know we got to talk some Cleveland ball, baby. Yeah.
01:51:20 Speaker_01
What was your time like in Cleveland? Not just as a player, but like in the city. Like, what do you, what do you remember and like really take away from your time in Cleveland?
01:51:29 Speaker_05
No, I love Cleveland. I mean, I always tell people like, you know, I was born and raised in Vallejo, California, right?
01:51:34 Speaker_05
Like I was, I mean, if you open up my soul, there's a little, probably a box in there with Mac Dre playing, you know what I'm saying? Born and raised in Vallejo, California to my soul, but I grew up in Cleveland.
01:51:46 Speaker_05
Like, I got to Cleveland when I was 17 years old, and I stayed there until I was 28. Three out of four of my kids were born there. You know, me and my wife got married there. You know, I lived with a host family in Shaker Heights my first two seasons.
01:52:00 Speaker_05
I mean, I love the east side of Cleveland. We really, really enjoyed the east side. I mean, I was going to Randall Park Mall to get all my clothes, you know what I'm saying? So I'm, you know what I mean?
01:52:13 Speaker_05
Like I'm really ingrained in, I'm going to Nets and Shaker Square to be, you know what I'm saying? Like these are my spots. So.
01:52:19 Speaker_11
I used to jump to, I used to run over to Shaker Square to go see you play. Cause they take the rapid right down the gateway district. Oh yeah.
01:52:27 Speaker_05
You know, that was my home. And, and, you know, I stayed there in offseason. I mean, I went to Cavs games. I was there when it was tractor trailer and Ricky Davis. I grew up in I grew up in Cleveland, man.
01:52:46 Speaker_05
That city holds a special place in me and my wife's heart. And even my kids, if you go talk to my oldest son right now, he's an Ohio State fan. And my daughter, they love being from Westlake. Or they say Westlake, Ohio. But they're from Cleveland.
01:53:02 Speaker_05
So it's very near and dear to our hearts. And like I always say, I grew up born and raised in Cali, but grew up in Cleveland. That's awesome, man.
01:53:10 Speaker_11
You're talking about the Cavs, man. Did you ever catch LeBron, the wave of LeBron before he got drafted to Cleveland? Like, did you catch him at St. Vincent, St. Mary?
01:53:18 Speaker_05
I did. So we had this program with the Indians, what the Guardians called. We do it too, Snoop. I know it was the winter development program. So they would bring us all to Cleveland the month of January. So we would be up there the whole month.
01:53:33 Speaker_05
So our big league trainer, his name was Paul Spokooza. He was a, he would referee AAU in high school games. So one year in the winter, he kept talking about this kid. He was like, oh, you got to come see this kid play. Blah, blah, blah.
01:53:48 Speaker_05
He's telling all of us. He's telling me, Dave Risky, all these different guys that are with the Guardians at the time. He's like, oh, you got to come see this guy play.
01:53:56 Speaker_05
And we're all like, no chance we're going to see an eighth grader go play basketball. We got better shit to do.
01:54:00 Speaker_04
We got better shit to do.
01:54:03 Speaker_05
That offseason, we didn't go. We come back the next offseason, he's like, all right, I got a better prop for you. Like, the kid's playing right across the street. Like, he's playing in the Cavs arena. We can walk underneath. We can go.
01:54:16 Speaker_05
We can watch the game. He was a freshman. He had 40, 18, and 20.
01:54:20 Speaker_04
It was unbelievable.
01:54:24 Speaker_05
It was unbelievable. And then ever since then, like, every time I was going, every time I came back to Cleveland in the wintertime, I was figuring out a way to go watch LeBron. I even watched him play high school football.
01:54:33 Speaker_09
I was about to ask that, because you're the football player too, man.
01:54:36 Speaker_05
I got a chance to go see him play high school football. I met Mav, and Rich, and all those guys. Very, very young, very early. So I've been knowing those guys a long time.
01:54:44 Speaker_11
Man, I'll tell you what. I try and tell people about, because I went and saw him at the Weinstein. I saw him at Cleveland State. I mean, he was selling out arenas so much. You couldn't put him in a high school arena for the big time games.
01:54:57 Speaker_11
You had to go to a bigger arena. And man, it was unbelievable. I was sitting up in the nosebleeds, and you could still see how big he was on the court compared to everybody else. It was ridiculous.
01:55:09 Speaker_05
And you could see the stars that would come see him play. Like, it would be everybody would show up in Cleveland. Like, from Shaq to AI to whoever else, like, just coming to, you know, going to the games and, like,
01:55:20 Speaker_05
Even back then, like you said, Trav, like you can see he was way bigger than everybody and way more skilled, but he would always make the right basketball play, right? Like, he can score 60 points in those games.
01:55:29 Speaker_05
He would always end up with 24, 8, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's making the right basketball play. Every time I've watched him play since he was in the freshman high school, he's done the right thing on the court every single time.
01:55:43 Speaker_05
His basketball IQ is off the charts.
01:55:44 Speaker_11
Yeah, man, I still remember going to that game though, man. It was unbelievable. He went off the backboard in a game, and at that point in my life, I was just like, man, I want to be the next LeBron James!
01:55:56 Speaker_11
Ended up choosing basketball over hockey going into high school. And a lot of that was because I was like, man, this dude just makes basketball look so fun and just sports look so fun, man.
01:56:06 Speaker_05
Was that a big thing for you guys, living in Cleveland, choosing over hockey? Because hockey is a big sport out there, right? It's a big winter sport.
01:56:13 Speaker_11
Yes. I mean, we grew up playing hockey, at least since I was five. I think Jason was a little bit older. But when he got into it, I immediately got into it since the lowest level of, of at least organized hockey.
01:56:26 Speaker_11
And on top of that, man, we just we had so many. We grew up with the same guys, the same teammates throughout our lives. So it's like we we had a connection with like the team and everything.
01:56:37 Speaker_11
And that was that was definitely the hardest thing for me going into high school was figuring out which winter sport I was going to play. Was it going to be hockey or hockey or basketball? And I ended up hanging up the skates. But
01:56:47 Speaker_01
Yeah, it was weird cause we played everything and we even played like two sports in the same season. I like look back and I'm like, how the hell did we even do that? Like how did Trav play basketball and hockey?
01:56:56 Speaker_01
I like wrestled and played hockey one year. I'm like, like it was, it's weird thinking back that we were even able to do that. You know, our parents somehow made that work. I don't even know how they facilitated that.
01:57:07 Speaker_05
I was just looking at a picture of my mother right now. My, my, my guy's got football pads. He's got a baseball bat over there. He's got like, you know what I'm saying? Like just in the mud room right now. Like it's like, it's crazy.
01:57:17 Speaker_01
And I feel like it's baseball deals with this a lot where kids like just play baseball year round, definitely in the South, for sure. I'm such a big proponent of playing as many sports as you can while you're young, because it just develops you more.
01:57:29 Speaker_01
But it feels like I know hitting is like, you want to be a good hitter, you got to hit a lot, right?
01:57:35 Speaker_05
But too much anything is a bad thing, right? You don't say like, you don't have to hit that much to be like, we didn't hit that much. Like I was I played 16 baseball games when I was a kid. You know what I'm saying?
01:57:44 Speaker_05
Like, we played the little league schedule. And then when it was in August, we played football or whatever else. Soccer. And then basketball or soccer. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're playing the sports.
01:57:53 Speaker_05
And I think, yeah, I think a lot of these kids get burnt out in their sport, whatever it is, because they just specialize way too early. And I feel like you play these other sports, it makes you so much a better athlete.
01:58:06 Speaker_05
And it makes you better in your main sport. Right. Like football made me so much better as a baseball player. Basketball made me so much better as a baseball player because of footwork and like being so big or being able to move around.
01:58:17 Speaker_05
You know what I'm saying? Like these, I mean, I'm sure with hockey and you playing center or you know what I'm saying? Like you playing quarterback and like, you know what I'm saying? Like these things,
01:58:25 Speaker_05
make you into your ultimate athlete when you play just one thing.
01:58:30 Speaker_05
Yeah, you can get good at that one thing, but you're not as athletic as you ultimately could be if you play these other sports or even like your mentality playing your main sport changes when you play these other sports.
01:58:43 Speaker_11
You just become more well-rounded, man. I'm with you, man. I promise.
01:58:46 Speaker_01
I watch Trav out there shaking guys sometimes. I'm like, man, he's just out there playing basketball.
01:58:49 Speaker_13
He's playing who? If you watch him off the line.
01:58:56 Speaker_11
If I just had the ability to dribble while doing that, if I just had the ability, I'd be in the NBA.
01:59:06 Speaker_09
He trying to tell y'all.
01:59:08 Speaker_01
No. He's got LeBron, the same Vincent St. Mary in his head. He's like, well, I'm hitting.
01:59:12 Speaker_05
But I feel like the same thing, like, with Myles Garrett, too. Like, he's the same. He's kind of like a hooper like that, where he just moves fluid, and he's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's pretty cool to see.
01:59:21 Speaker_01
He had this one move last year, he hit over a center. I forget what team he was playing, but he's literally like acting like a basketball player, doing a crossover before the snap, and then hits him and kills him on a one-on-one.
01:59:33 Speaker_01
I was like, dude, thank God I'm not that center, because I don't know what the hell you would even do. Like, what the heck is that freaky move right there? But.
01:59:40 Speaker_05
Yeah.
01:59:41 Speaker_11
We talked about a little bit about Roberto and Omar and maybe even Diaz. Who were the guys that like, that mentored you when you first got into the league? Maybe even back when you were playing in the minors, who was that one guy?
01:59:56 Speaker_11
Me and Jason always like to try and figure out the one person you could always lean on and show some love to because they helped you out a tremendous amount. Who do you think that guy was for you?
02:00:06 Speaker_05
You know what? It was, you know, real early in my career, it was Manny Ramirez, guys. Manny? Yeah. Yeah, Manny. It was. And Manny was a first. Man, he was a first-rounder, I think, in 93. I was a first-rounder. I came out in 98.
02:00:23 Speaker_05
And we would all, like, in Winter Haven and Spring Training, we all kind of stayed at the same hotel. Like, the young guys in the minor leagues, we all stayed at the hotel. And, like, some of the younger big leaguers, would stay at the hotel.
02:00:34 Speaker_05
And Manny would kind of stay at the hotel in his younger days. And when I first came around, he would take me out to eat and all this different stuff.
02:00:40 Speaker_05
And, um, one time we're coming back from eating and this is like, I mean, we're hanging out maybe like a year or two now. And this is like, you know, the third time this spring training that we're coming back from eating.
02:00:51 Speaker_05
And he goes, he looks at me, he goes, poppy, why you never speak Spanish? And I would go, bro, I'm from fucking the land.
02:00:59 Speaker_13
The whole time I think he was mentoring me because he thought I was Dominican.
02:01:09 Speaker_05
It was Manny early. We have a great relationship. That's awesome, man. David Justice was there early, but when I first got to the big leagues, it was Ellis Burks. Ellis Burks was the guy who, he bought me my first suit when I got, when I made the team.
02:01:24 Speaker_05
And he really, that first year, he really taught me how to be a pro. Took me under his wing, told me what to do and what not to do. Because I was so young, I was so green, I had no idea.
02:01:34 Speaker_05
I mean, I didn't even know how many innings you had to pitch to get a win at that point. You know what I'm saying? So, I was really, really, really learning on the job and Ellis did a good job with me. Nice, man.
02:01:45 Speaker_01
We asked this question to not knowing who mentored you. Do you have one guy one moment that was like you're welcome to Major League Baseball moment?
02:01:53 Speaker_05
The best story I feel like where I felt like I was like one of the guys was so after my my first start, I think I don't think I won that game. Maybe not. I didn't win the first start. So the second start we pitch in Detroit.
02:02:08 Speaker_05
And I went five innings I gave up four runs. We fly to Baltimore and we get in early we go out to dinner. I ended up getting a win that night in Detroit. We go to dinner, the guys take me out and I had like a suit on.
02:02:20 Speaker_05
And I just remember guys like stuffing like money in my pockets. Like everybody was like, they took me out and they were like giving, everybody handing me like money, like cash.
02:02:28 Speaker_05
I just remember like waking up the next day, I had all this money, all this cash. One of the best moments of my life.
02:02:34 Speaker_13
And I just felt like, you know, that, yeah, it was like one of those, like, welcome to the team kid, you know, kind of moments, which was, which was pretty cool.
02:02:42 Speaker_05
That kind of made me feel like I was a part of, you know what I mean?
02:02:45 Speaker_01
That's dope. I like that better. Dude, in the NFL, we take the rookies out and they got to buy like this absurd dinner where they spend all their money.
02:02:53 Speaker_13
I like that better. Let's give the young guys some cash.
02:02:56 Speaker_01
I like that. That's the way it should be.
02:02:59 Speaker_05
Yeah. And that's, I mean, it was, When I first got called up, it was a lot of hazing. It was a lot of like, you know, the young guys have to do this, do that. And now it's a lot different. I mean, you know, for me, I want it to be different.
02:03:10 Speaker_05
I want the young guys to come up and feel comfortable, you know, be a part of the team. You know, I didn't want any of them to go through kind of the stuff I went through. So we kind of changed the culture a little bit.
02:03:20 Speaker_05
And now these young guys get to come up and feel comfortable. So it's good.
02:03:23 Speaker_01
That's awesome. Nice, man. How many? 19 seasons?
02:03:28 Speaker_05
19 seasons, yeah. I was lucky.
02:03:30 Speaker_01
You said you threw until you couldn't anymore. Have you tried to throw a baseball? What does it feel like now if you tried to do that?
02:03:36 Speaker_05
Man, if I try to throw hard, it's not good. I play catch with my sons all the time. I have a 4-2. 14-year-old that plays and you know, I'm playing catch and throwing BP with him. But yeah, my shoulder's done. Which is good.
02:03:49 Speaker_05
That's a good thing because I would still be trying to play. Like the Yankees in the World Series right now, I'd be calling catch like, y'all come out the bullpen right now.
02:03:56 Speaker_05
It's a good thing I can't throw right now because I would be itching to come out of somebody's bullpen right now trying to get another ring.
02:04:04 Speaker_11
I've been saying it for the past three years. Everyone keeps asking me about retirement. I'm like, man, I'm gonna play till the wheels fall off. I just fucking love competing, man.
02:04:13 Speaker_11
I like being out there on the field and showing up for the guys next to me. It's just what I love to do.
02:04:18 Speaker_11
So I can only imagine what it really felt like when that shoulder started to really mess up for you and you weren't able to have the success that you wanted to have. I'm sure that was a tough time for you to come to realization with that.
02:04:30 Speaker_05
It was, but it was like I knew I was going to be good at retirement. I got hurt in 2014, which is Jeter's last season. And I didn't really travel that year. And it was like, I had my first summer off. You know, we played a whole summer.
02:04:56 Speaker_05
So we don't like, we never get Memorial Day or 5th of July. Like, we don't know what that's like. So that first year, that first summer, I was like, oh shit. I'm gonna be like really good at retirement.
02:05:08 Speaker_05
So after that, like every year, it kept creeping into where I was like, every road trip, like I'm packing. I'm like, fuck, man. I'm like, I'm, you know, like we're before I'm happy to like pack and go with the guys. And like, you know what I'm saying?
02:05:20 Speaker_05
Hit the road. Now I'm, you know, upset. I'm missing this, this game or this daughter's competition or this stuff.
02:05:26 Speaker_05
So it got to a point where it was like, you know, when I started, you know, getting upset about packing, it's like, it's time for you to be home. Yes, for sure.
02:05:34 Speaker_05
And now I'm in the locker room with guys that have more in common with my 14-year-old son than they have in common with me. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's time to go.
02:05:43 Speaker_05
I mean, as much as I love to compete, as much as I love the game, I don't miss anything about it. I got my feel out of it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I won a championship.
02:05:51 Speaker_05
I got, you know, I got to do it at the highest level with, you know, what I consider one of the better, one of the best organizations. So I don't miss it at all. You know what I mean? Like I'm good with it. And I mean, I just love watching baseball now.
02:06:05 Speaker_11
I love it, man. And like you said earlier, you're still doing a lot with the league and being that voice for players and that connector. We got a segment on the show called We Gotta Ask, But You Don't Have to Answer.
02:06:17 Speaker_11
So let's wrap this crazy cavo up with the segment. And it's exactly what it sounds like, CeCe. We're going to ask you some rapid fire questions. And I mean, you can literally tell us the fuck off or you can answer them and we'll have some fun.
02:06:29 Speaker_11
Jason, go ahead and start with the first one.
02:06:31 Speaker_01
Yeah. Are pitchers the most superstitious professional athletes out there?
02:06:36 Speaker_05
I think baseball players in general. I think baseball players have to be the most superstitious athletes on the planet, for sure.
02:06:42 Speaker_01
I can agree to that. Do you have any weird superstitions you've seen over the years? What's the weirdest one?
02:06:50 Speaker_05
I mean, Jeter ate the same thing every single day. He would, like, peanut butter and honey sandwich. He would take a bite of it and then throw the rest of the shit out. I just gotta get one in. I just gotta get my bite in.
02:07:01 Speaker_05
It was, you know, like, he must have did that one time, didn't have time, had a great game. You know what I'm saying? But and then for me, like it was always like, so before my starts, I had to be in the hot tub at like 423.
02:07:11 Speaker_05
Yeah, I had to be out of the hot tub at like 434 on the training table for like time.
02:07:17 Speaker_01
So like, it's the same way.
02:07:19 Speaker_05
You had to be walking out of the out of the locker room at four at 636. Like what my jacket and everything like so it was always like about the time for me. Same.
02:07:29 Speaker_01
I would always go in and there's always a list on the in the locker room for football that tells you what time each position has to be out. And I would go and find out when the centers and quarterbacks had to be out for snapping.
02:07:40 Speaker_01
And I would work back every 15 minutes, I would have like markers, okay, at one hour before that, I'm taking my pre workout drink and doing this at 45 minutes, I'm taking my anti inflammatory at 30 minutes.
02:07:59 Speaker_04
You gotta make sure that thing gets some time to kick in.
02:08:05 Speaker_11
That's two for me. You guys are crazy, man. I can't do that, man. I'm so bad with time, and I'm the most inconsistent person in the world. So I was like, man, let me not just set myself up for failure here on these superstitions.
02:08:15 Speaker_05
So you don't have any kind of routine like that? I'm just gonna show up to the ballpark and just play some football, man. No routine like that? You don't have no routine like that before the game with time?
02:08:23 Speaker_11
I mean, other than making sure I take that anti-inflammatory about 45 minutes before I go out on that field. That's about the only one I got. And sometimes I even forget to take that until I'm right about to go out there.
02:08:33 Speaker_01
Well, have you ever been out there and realized you forgot to take it?
02:08:36 Speaker_11
Yeah.
02:08:38 Speaker_01
It's like, why do I feel so bad? Oh, yeah.
02:08:40 Speaker_12
That's why.
02:08:41 Speaker_11
All of a sudden, you turn on the film on Monday morning. You see, man, Travis was real slow on the first quarter.
02:08:49 Speaker_05
Nah, I've never been to the bullpen without my anti-inflammatory. Or Torridol, whatever I gotta take. Alright, man. For sure.
02:08:56 Speaker_09
Whichever one it is. Cici, what's the toughest ballpark you ever played in?
02:08:59 Speaker_05
Toughest ballpark? I think Fenway's the toughest ballpark to play in.
02:09:03 Speaker_09
Fenway?
02:09:05 Speaker_05
I think so. I mean, just the atmosphere, the green monster. You have to change the way you pitch in that part. And like, you know, we talked about it earlier. I don't like to change anything. I pitch to my strengths. I do what I do.
02:09:17 Speaker_05
And there you have to actually change the way you pitch because of the wall. So I think Fenway was always the toughest place to pitch.
02:09:22 Speaker_11
What a home field advantage, man. That's crazy.
02:09:25 Speaker_01
Do you have one batter you faced in your career that just like, you know, you're glad you never got to face him again. He just for some reason had your number.
02:09:34 Speaker_05
Man, I mean, I wish it was just one guy. I wish it was just one guy. But Manny Ramirez, for sure. I mean, Manny, he would always get me in the biggest spots. And then Evan Longoria. Evan Longoria, I mean, it got to a point where I was just like,
02:09:52 Speaker_05
I mean, there was one game where Tony Pena, he was our catching coordinator. He was like, just throw them all sliders today. So, it was like a game where I would just throw them all sliders and he was like, just throw them all change-ups today.
02:10:05 Speaker_05
You know what I'm saying? Like, there's really nothing I could do to get him out. Like, he just saw the ball out of my hand so good that the one time I ran over to him, I was like, bro, I'm gonna start throwing to you underhand.
02:10:15 Speaker_05
It's nothing like... I'm gonna completely change the subject.
02:10:19 Speaker_11
I'm just gonna turn right hand and I'm just gonna start throwing this thing over here. Who's on your Mount Rushmore of pitchers?
02:10:26 Speaker_05
Wow, I've never been asked that question. I would have to go Ferguson Jenkins for sure. I would have to go Bob Gibson. Randy Johnson. The unit. And I'm putting Pedro up there, man.
02:10:43 Speaker_01
Pedro.
02:10:43 Speaker_05
I mean, yeah. Pedro's nasty, bro.
02:10:46 Speaker_01
Got those flexible fingers. I still remember that. Pedro got those flexible fingers.
02:10:50 Speaker_09
Alien fingers.
02:10:51 Speaker_05
Yeah. That's crazy. Pedro was nasty, man. Pedro was nasty. And he, like, he would come after you. You know what I'm saying? Like, he pitched any time, and he would come after you. So those would be my guys.
02:11:02 Speaker_11
Pedro, do you see Pedro with his fingers back? Do you start stretching your hand every day? You're just, I need that, I need that extra. I can't just tailor something.
02:11:10 Speaker_05
It's funny that everybody knew that about him, right?
02:11:14 Speaker_01
Do you still believe in the motto, mass equals gas?
02:11:18 Speaker_05
Absolutely. Absolutely. I had to be over 310 to be able to throw the ball over 95. My biggest I pitched at was like 338. That's a big man. Yeah, my Milwaukee days, yeah. Milwaukee, early New York days, I was like 330. I went on a trip to Italy one time.
02:11:32 Speaker_05
I came back. And I was like, I didn't weigh myself, I was just pasta and wine. Bro, I came back, I was 346.
02:11:47 Speaker_13
I never get on a scale that is like 346. And it's in December, you know what I'm saying? I got like six weeks before I need to be back to 290.
02:12:01 Speaker_05
Oh, wow.
02:12:02 Speaker_09
Everybody's like, what's CeCe running the polls for? He's like, man, I heard he went to Italy, man. Don't go to Italy in the off season, man. This shit crazy.
02:12:10 Speaker_05
I was doing a lemonade diet where I was doing the cayenne pepper with the lemonade. I was crazy. Nice detox. I got down, though. I got back.
02:12:19 Speaker_11
Listen, man, we're the Kansas City Dab-Bods over here. We just make it shake. We make it shake. I love it.
02:12:24 Speaker_11
All right, and then what's your advice to kids getting into baseball now, man, if you had just a little bit of advice you can give to some of our younger viewers, man?
02:12:33 Speaker_05
Man, my advice would just be just to enjoy the game. Don't take it too serious. Play other sports, but have fun and enjoy the game and really be a fan of the game. Watch baseball. Go to games if you can. Go out and play with your friends.
02:12:49 Speaker_05
I think the more that you're a fan of baseball, the more you fall in love with it and the better you become as a player. But I think you really need to be a fan of this game to understand it and to really know what it is, to love it.
02:13:01 Speaker_05
I'm with you on that, brother.
02:13:02 Speaker_01
Hell yeah. That's all we got. Appreciate you, man. CeCe, you got any questions for us before you hop up out of here?
02:13:08 Speaker_05
I mean, you guys both played in Super Bowls or at the highest level. What would your advice be as far as
02:13:17 Speaker_05
getting there or, you know, working towards, like, did you ever, did you work, because I never worked to play in the, like, in the World Series or to be in the Hall of Fame or, like, it was just always just trying to get better one day at a time.
02:13:29 Speaker_05
Was that with you guys or was it like, no, I'm trying to win Super Bowls or this is, like, my goal?
02:13:35 Speaker_01
Well, I'll answer first because I feel like Travis, they've won, like, two in a row, so they might already be thinking about the Super Bowl, but for me... Right now. No, you're always focused on, winning the day, right?
02:13:46 Speaker_01
You're always focused on just getting better in any way, shape or form. And you're week by week. I think everybody starts the season with like you, you want to win the Super Bowl and that's like the end goal.
02:13:57 Speaker_01
But I don't think that that's like where you're at at any moment until you're there, if that makes sense. Like it's always about man, we got to be, you know, if we're playing Cleveland this week, how do we be Cleveland or what did I do last week?
02:14:11 Speaker_01
How do I not make those same mistakes again and get better this week? And to me, I felt like I was never, you know, that was always the main dream.
02:14:21 Speaker_01
But there were always shorter term goals that were kind of getting you on the right, keeping you on the right track. Right.
02:14:27 Speaker_01
Like doing your job, getting better every day and, you know, staying in the moment, I think help you achieve all those goals, those long-term goals.
02:14:38 Speaker_11
Yeah.
02:14:39 Speaker_01
What about you, Trev?
02:14:40 Speaker_11
I kind of go along the same lines as what you were saying, CeCe. One of my coaches in college used to say, feed the fire. Fuel that knowledge and that love for the game and really understand it to the minute details.
02:14:56 Speaker_11
I have never been satisfied watching myself on film. I literally am my worst critic.
02:15:01 Speaker_11
And I feel like if guys take that mentality, not only in sports, but just in life of always trying to find ways to better themselves, you'll slowly start to take steps up that staircase of success and find ways to, I don't know, get better at whether it's catching the football, throwing the football, blocking, things like that.
02:15:23 Speaker_11
I always try and take the, four, four or five months that we have in the offseason to find one thing to really like understand to a whole nother level. And this year it was how to recover better, how to recover faster throughout the week.
02:15:38 Speaker_11
What are some things that I can do? And it's just been a whole like, I don't want to say change the routine, but it's just been a whole fine tuning of the routine throughout the week. So that even in, you know, week four to week 10,
02:15:50 Speaker_11
to week 16, to week 20, if I'm fortunate enough to play in the Super Bowl, I found a way to be at my top and best physical form for the guys around me and just be accountable, man. But I would say just be your own worst critic in life, man.
02:16:07 Speaker_11
You can't tell me I played terrible, man. I'll be the one to say it first.
02:16:11 Speaker_01
I hate myself.
02:16:11 Speaker_05
I've already told myself. That's what people always say about playing here. Like, how can you handle the pressure of playing in New York? No, I already put so much pressure on myself. You know what I mean?
02:16:21 Speaker_05
Like, if I give up a run, I'm already... You know what I'm saying? So there's no amount of pressure that you can put on me that... External pressure that's gonna break me, you know?
02:16:33 Speaker_02
Absolutely.
02:16:33 Speaker_05
I got another question about one more football, if y'all don't mind.
02:16:37 Speaker_05
about, it's just like, I watch so much football and I see everybody talk about offensive lines and, you know, this offensive line's bad, that offensive line's bad, but the defensive lines have, every team has a freak on their defensive line.
02:16:49 Speaker_05
Like, every single one, whether it's Max Crosby or Joey Bosa or JJ Watt, like, why won't they take some of these guys that don't make it on the defensive line, turn them into offensive linemen so you can kind of match some of these bodies in these fucking,
02:17:04 Speaker_13
The skill set that these guys have, like, it's crazy.
02:17:07 Speaker_01
Yeah.
02:17:07 Speaker_11
It's a good point, man.
02:17:08 Speaker_01
It is crazy. I think, one, those defensive guys are, it's a sexier position. That's what I would want to play. So all those guys want to play, right? Everybody wants to get sacks. They don't want to have to block Miles Garrett.
02:17:20 Speaker_13
You don't have to think as hard. You can kind of just go and play your game. Every team has a freak, though. Every team has, like, one or two on the defensive line. At least one.
02:17:28 Speaker_01
And to kind of talk about this a little bit more, like, most of the best offense alignment
02:17:33 Speaker_01
were those like most of the best offensive lineman in the league at least I don't want to like not all of them but a lot of those guys were former position players right like I was a linebacker growing up Lane Johnson played tight end and quarterback Jason Peters who played with the Eagles for a long time was a tight end in college so
02:17:51 Speaker_01
there are a lot more skill and athletic guys switching to the offensive line for exactly what you're saying. Like you can't just be a big, like strong guy anymore and be a successful offensive lineman. It's gonna be really hard to compete.
02:18:06 Speaker_01
You gotta be a crazy athlete now and all that other stuff. And those are rare people. It's rare human beings to find six, six dudes that are athletic, big, strong. Like they just,
02:18:19 Speaker_07
tough. Yeah.
02:18:21 Speaker_01
Yeah, exactly.
02:18:22 Speaker_05
But I just, I just, I feel like so many offensive linemen take so much shit or these offensive line period. Cause they're like, but it's like, do you, do you see what I'm like? Yeah. You see what I have to do over here?
02:18:32 Speaker_05
We just come on out here and try and do it. Every offense is like, oh, the offensive line is terrible.
02:18:38 Speaker_13
No, fuck that.
02:18:38 Speaker_04
Look at
02:18:43 Speaker_13
They're deep in the line and they're fucking blocking. That's crazy.
02:18:45 Speaker_01
The other thing with O-line is if you do your job nine out of 10 times, it's a failure. If you give up one sack in a game, I had a bad day pass blocking. I could have had 39 snaps and I got my job done, but that one is going to haunt me in my head.
02:19:02 Speaker_13
It's like being a relief pitcher. That's like being a closer, right?
02:19:06 Speaker_01
Yeah.
02:19:07 Speaker_13
Yeah. One pitch.
02:19:08 Speaker_01
So frustrating. These guys get paid too. They're pretty damn good.
02:19:12 Speaker_03
They're pretty damn good.
02:19:15 Speaker_01
My fire is fueled back to what Travis saying, because the World Series is coming up. We're going to see a world champion announced in a couple of weeks. And it's baseball season right now, man. I can't thank you so much.
02:19:26 Speaker_01
Thank you enough, CC, for coming on. It was awesome talking to you. Yes, sir. Getting your story and also just your frame on this series that's about to happen. You're the best, brother. Appreciate it. Thank you so much.
02:19:36 Speaker_05
I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Big fans of y'all. So anytime y'all want me to come on, anytime I'm on. Hell yeah.
02:19:41 Speaker_11
You're the best, brother. We'll definitely have to get a few rounds of golf in over there on the east coast.
02:19:46 Speaker_01
That's what I'm saying. Jersey, this is an easy one to get in.
02:19:49 Speaker_11
Exactly. Absolutely.
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Hit up on trout. And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to my man, CC Sabathia for joining us. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube to the New Heights channel and follow New Heights on Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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