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Episode: Ep 270: Sebastian Stan

Author: Plosive
Duration: 01:05:20

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The MCU’s Winter Solider – and star of ‘A Different Man” and ‘The Apprentice’ – Sebastian Stan is this week’s dream diner. But we better watch out, he might prank us.Trigger warning: this episode contains some chat about dieting.Sebastian stars in ‘A Different Man’ which is in cinemas now.He also

stars in ‘The Apprentice’ which is in cinemas now.Follow Sebastian on Instagram @imsebastianstanOff Menu is a comedy podcast hosted by Ed Gamble and James Acaster. Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Summary

In this episode of 'Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster', the hosts invite Sebastian Stan, known for his roles in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and 'A Different Man'. The conversation touches on humor in filmmaking, exploring the themes of identity and self-acceptance in 'A Different Man'. Stan shares anecdotes about his culinary preferences, including cheat days and notable dishes. The hosts engage in light-hearted discussions about reality shows, time travel in films, and pranks, highlighting the whimsical nature of the podcast. Stan's dream meal is revealed, accompanied by humorous insights into his personal life and experiences in the entertainment industry.

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Welcome to the off-menu podcast, taking the pickle of conversation, dipping it in the batter of friendship, frying it in the oil of humour, fried pickles.

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Frickles. Frickles! That's it, Campbell, my name is James Acastle, together we own a dream restaurant, every single week we invite the guest and ask them their favourite ever, starter, main course, dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order.

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And this week, our guest is... Sebastian Stan!

00:02:21 Speaker_14
I like frickles, man, but sometimes when they're the big spears, there's too much liquid in them, so I prefer a frickle that's sliced.

00:02:28 Speaker_12
Yeah, I like it to be, you know, in like coined coins. Frickle coins. They're nice. Yeah, when they're long, they're gonna be full of molten pickle juice. Yes. And you're in big trouble if you bite into that. Sebastian Stan is a wonderful actor.

00:02:44 Speaker_12
Yes, he's absolutely fantastic. We are huge Stan-Stans. Yeah. We like so many of his movies.

00:02:49 Speaker_14
Please don't say that to him. Huh? Don't say I'm a Stan-Stan to him. I bet he's never heard that before. Because sometimes these Hollywood actors, they don't know what's going to happen, do they?

00:02:58 Speaker_14
You know, they're going around all day, they're being thrown into situations to talk about their films, and I don't know how Sebastian Stan is going to react to, let's be honest, an odd man. Yes. Saying, I'm a Stan Stan.

00:03:10 Speaker_14
Surely people have said I'm a Stan Stan to him before. Yeah, but not immediately in a professional context. Because, you know, this is a small studio, I think he's going to be scared.

00:03:18 Speaker_14
And then I know you're going to bring up Marvel and some of your theories. All I heard is that, you see, this is a professional. context. For him, he's been told it is. Compliment received. He doesn't know what he's coming into.

00:03:29 Speaker_12
He thinks it's a professional context. Well, listen, talking about professional context, A Different Man is out now. Yes.

00:03:36 Speaker_14
It's Sebastian's new film. That's the name of the film. We're not saying it's A Different Guest now. We're not saying he's cancelled while we've been talking. Because I said I was a stand stand. Yeah, A Different Man is coming in.

00:03:45 Speaker_12
Yeah, yeah, no, A Different Man is here because I've blown it.

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A Different Man is a psychological thriller comedy about a man who undergoes facial reconstruction surgery only to become obsessed with the actor who plays him in a stage production based on his former life. It sounds super fascinating.

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I'm really excited to see it. And also the film is the pass of the torch from non-disabled actors portraying characters with disabilities to actors with disabilities playing who they want to play. So beyond villain, victim or outcast roles.

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I think it's really exciting.

00:04:14 Speaker_14
James didn't read that, if anything. He just came up with that.

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I just came up with it, I just know it anyway because I'm a Stan Stan. But like, I'm really excited to go, because like, the storyline itself already has got me hooked.

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But also like, what the film is doing beyond that, also is like really exciting and interesting, so I'm really looking forward to hearing what Sebastian has to say about the film.

00:04:34 Speaker_14
Absolutely, his co-star is Adam Pearson, who has been, you know, I think a bit of a mainstay of British TV, I've seen him on various things, so I'm excited to see how he tackles this role, very exciting.

00:04:45 Speaker_12
Very excited to have Sebastian on the podcast, but of course, if he says the secret ingredient, an ingredient which we deem to be unacceptable, we will have to kick him out of the Dream Restaurant. Yes, we will.

00:04:53 Speaker_14
And the secret ingredient this week is... Winter peas! Winter peas, of course. Sebastian played Bucky the Winter Soldier in the Marvel Universe. So, winter. Yes, winter. And then we googled what foods have the word winter in them. Well, that's not true!

00:05:08 Speaker_14
You said winter peas straight off the bat. I did. And then we googled to check if winter peas were a thing. Benito did. Benito rarely thinks I've got it right.

00:05:15 Speaker_12
Yes. So he googled it first. Everything that James has ever said. So I said winter peas, and he was like, well, I'm gonna google an actual thing that has the word winter in them. And it's like, oh, okay. Fair enough. Yes. But he admits it, that I was right.

00:05:28 Speaker_12
Yeah.

00:05:28 Speaker_14
Well, let's speak to Sebastian Stan, shall we, James? Yes! This is the off-menu menu of Sebastian Stan! Welcome, Sebastian, to the Dream Restaurant. Hello.

00:05:46 Speaker_12
Welcome, Sebastian Stan, to the Dream Restaurant. Been expecting you for some time. Thank you.

00:05:50 Speaker_14
Were you surprised by the genie there?

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Uh, yes, yes I was.

00:05:56 Speaker_12
It's very nice of you to say that, but you were surprised. Have you ever had like a surprise like that on set? An explosion go off when it wasn't supposed to?

00:06:03 Speaker_10
Yeah, somebody brought in that fart machine at one point, you know, the one where you put under the seat. Yeah. And, um, that one was going around for a little while. That was sort of funny because you could be having a really intense conversation.

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But it still works. It still gets people laughing.

00:06:21 Speaker_14
It's good stuff. I wasn't there for that, but even just the description of the fart machine, I'm on board with it as a joke. It's always a good time.

00:06:29 Speaker_12
I imagine though, it depends where you are. Whoever bought that fart machine in, I reckon there's a certain place down the call sheet where past there, you can't be the guy who's bringing in the fart machine.

00:06:40 Speaker_12
If you're pretty new, and you're still feeling it out with people, and the fart machine goes off, and number one on the call sheet was the one who is meant to look like they farted, they're gonna go...

00:06:50 Speaker_10
I think it's usually, yeah, I think it has to be, you know, you have to be in it for a couple of weeks and get to know people's humor and stuff. I once worked on this movie and we all got along really well.

00:07:01 Speaker_10
And then I remember it was one of the actors' birthdays and I got them like a whole animal farm. Oh, wow. They were like rabbits and llamas and pigs and like everything. They just came with everything at the trailer.

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And, you know, they were so surprised to find geese like coming out of it.

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coming out of the trailer, but you know, it has to be, yeah, I may not, you know, I wouldn't want to do that to like Daniel Day-Lewis or something, and it has to be the right kind of film and whatever, you know.

00:07:33 Speaker_14
Unless his character that he was playing was like a farmer, in which case that would be fantastic for him, wouldn't it? He'd love that.

00:07:38 Speaker_10
Yeah, I mean, listen, he's, I was just reading, he's made a cameo in his son's movie, so he's returned after seven years, little bit, but we'll take it, right?

00:07:49 Speaker_12
Interesting. A method actor making a cameo in their kid's movie, because he's in character around his son all the time. Surely his son at some point is going to go, Dad.

00:07:59 Speaker_10
I wonder. I don't know what the part is, but I'm sure it's just as committed as always.

00:08:05 Speaker_12
Well, apparently he'd go home in character anyway, so I'm sure his son's seen it all before. Yeah, yeah. He's never met his dad. Yeah, he doesn't know who his dad is. It's just a string of characters. Let's talk about A Different Man, your new film.

00:08:16 Speaker_12
What can you tell people about it who don't know about it?

00:08:18 Speaker_10
Jesus I mean, it's just like it's like a Rubik's Cube trying to explain it I'll just say that most people that see it go I've never seen anything like this movie and That's usually a good sign and in the world where we're like getting everything all the time in a trailer

00:08:35 Speaker_10
It's just one of those films where I think you don't anticipate what happens and it's long story short, it's about an actor who has neurofibromatosis, which is a real thing, a real condition.

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And he decides to undergo a reconstruction surgery for his face and desperately wants to fit into the world and look like everybody else. And he successfully undergoes it. And then instead of all of his sort of

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preconceived dreams coming true as life turns down a spiral of self-hatred and obsession and identity breakdown. And the way that sort of happens is really, really unique and very funny and also like supremely tragic.

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I mean, it's quite exciting that theme of the film about who should play certain roles as well.

00:09:28 Speaker_12
That's one of the themes that's in there and you must have had loads of like great conversations on set about what you wanted to do with the film and different people's opinions.

00:09:39 Speaker_12
Did it lead to interesting conversations away from the film as well in your life, in your job? that came from like your experience of doing this?

00:09:48 Speaker_10
Well, yeah, I mean Aaron Schoenberg who wrote it and directed it is disfigured himself.

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He's got a cleft palate and his previous film as well sort of dealt with, you know, disfigurement and disability and sort of our uncomfortability around it and the lack of conversation around it.

00:10:06 Speaker_10
And he encountered in his previous film by casting Adam Pearson, who's great in this film, a lot of backlash towards the fact that maybe him being accused of sort of exploiting Adams by casting him.

00:10:20 Speaker_10
So then when he was writing this movie, he thought, well, I can't really get an actor just in prosthetics because then I'm not representing, you know, in the right way. So if I'm trying to cast someone appropriate and I'm accused of exploitation,

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and then I'm casting an abled actor to play someone disfigured and I'm also getting accused for that, then ultimately nothing happens and nothing moves forward and there's no conversation out of it.

00:10:46 Speaker_10
So he was like, okay, I'm going to make a movie where I can do both. And I'm just going to kind of see how it translates and I'm going to have these two characters sort of go at each other.

00:10:57 Speaker_10
It's incredibly smart because I feel like he really flips in the movie all of these misconceptions that we have about, you know, what a disabled person should be like or what kind of roles we've seen them in.

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I mean, Adam in this film is such a different character. than we have ever seen him play, period, but even then we would have imagined him.

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So he's really found a way to kind of, A, get the movie made and also find a way to bring people to kind of talk about it and offer like a further perspective on it.

00:11:32 Speaker_12
We're going to get into your dream menu in a minute.

00:11:35 Speaker_14
It's such an interesting discussion about films, but now we do have to be really stupid for a bit. Yes, that's fine. From a different man to a different menu, Sebastian. Oh, lovely. The perfect link, would you say? Well, you are what you eat.

00:11:49 Speaker_12
Yeah, yeah. You were in one film. In Fresh, you were what you ate. You were eating humans.

00:11:55 Speaker_10
That's right. Yeah. Remember that? Yes, I do, yeah.

00:12:01 Speaker_14
A lot of James's questions to actors are to say a film and then go, do you remember that?

00:12:05 Speaker_12
Which we're assuming you do actually remember. Not all actors we've had on do remember that. Yeah, that's true.

00:12:10 Speaker_10
Yeah, I do. I mean, that was a lot of fun.

00:12:14 Speaker_12
Well, the scene when you're preparing it all, it actually genuinely looks quite delicious for a second there, which is worrying.

00:12:20 Speaker_10
Well, there was a chef on set who was preparing things right on the dot, but it's interesting when something gets passed and you label it a certain way, because then you're looking at it differently and kind of looking for things in the meatballs, you know.

00:12:36 Speaker_10
But that movie, it's funny. I hear a lot about that movie. People still kind of come up and ask me about it. And I never knew how it was gonna do.

00:12:46 Speaker_12
I think, because it messes with your head a bit, that film, because it does make you, you're a very charismatic cannibal killer. And you do make the food look pretty delicious.

00:12:58 Speaker_12
It does get in the audience's heads more than if you were just like some crazed monster who we were terrified of. You kind of go, oh, maybe I want to be a cannibal. Sebastian Stan made it look quite nice.

00:13:10 Speaker_10
I think that that's what was interesting about that movie because the way that the writer had written it, you know, she made it so normal in a way. It was, you know, everybody, we were all like, let's just try and play this as real as possible.

00:13:24 Speaker_10
We're not going for shock or laughs or whatever. It was just, and then maybe the audience will get behind it. But yeah, I mean, I think the music alone in that movie made me want to be a part of it. Maybe even more than the subject matter.

00:13:42 Speaker_12
We always start with still or sparkling water.

00:13:44 Speaker_10
Sparkling. It's sparkling all the way. To the point where sometimes I worry that I'm... Is sparkling even real water?

00:13:51 Speaker_14
Well, this is the thing. It's the ongoing debate. I think there was actually, there was some science came out recently. I'm across the science. I know you're across the science. Yeah, I'm across the science, man. I get all the papers.

00:14:03 Speaker_14
And apparently sparkling water has been proven to be as hydrating as still water. Because that was always the thing, right? People were like...

00:14:10 Speaker_14
It's not hydrating you because you're just drinking all the fizz and the bubbles, but I think, yeah, you'll be fine. You can just drink it all day long. What do you love about it?

00:14:18 Speaker_10
It's refreshing. I feel like I don't, you know, for still water, I have to drink like room temperature. I can't drink it cold. But then sparkling water has to be out of a fridge. Yeah. I feel like it can be, it can give you that satisfaction.

00:14:30 Speaker_12
Yeah. If you were to, in a scene, have to down a bottle of still water and act like it was refreshing, would that be the biggest acting challenge?

00:14:41 Speaker_10
Yeah, sure.

00:14:42 Speaker_12
Yeah, pretty huge.

00:14:44 Speaker_10
I recently had to down water as vodka, right? Like in the thing and that was like a very funny situation to kind of try and do.

00:14:52 Speaker_12
See Hugh Jackman, punk Taron Egerton, in an interview they did, he pretended to down a miniature of vodka at the start of their interview and completely Taron Egerton was like, you are crazy.

00:15:05 Speaker_10
But it was water.

00:15:05 Speaker_12
It was water. He absolutely nailed it.

00:15:08 Speaker_11
Yeah, it made him look like a dick in front of everyone, in front of the press, there's a junket going on.

00:15:12 Speaker_12
They're like absolutely fuming for the rest of the day, I imagine.

00:15:16 Speaker_10
He's very funny, Hugh Jackman. I've only met him a couple of times, but I get a sense that he'd be a lot of fun to work with.

00:15:24 Speaker_14
Yeah, he's bringing in the fart machine.

00:15:26 Speaker_10
He probably would.

00:15:27 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:15:28 Speaker_10
He's the fart machine guy, you know. And then break into Les Mis. Yeah.

00:15:35 Speaker_12
You usually get put with Anthony Mackie with Junkets when it's like Marvel stuff. So you two have to sit and do the interviews together.

00:15:42 Speaker_10
Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that happened because about six or seven years ago, cause I, I was so bad at, at junkets. I was always so quiet that they're like, we need to give him the loudest man on the planet to revive him. And he, and he does.

00:15:59 Speaker_10
I mean, Anthony is just so, you guys would have such a blast with him on the, on the show. Like he, he's, he's big time.

00:16:06 Speaker_12
I've seen him in interviews. Has he got a boat or something? Or was that just in the show that you guys did? I think that was just in Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

00:16:14 Speaker_10
He has a boat. I think he has a boat. He also goes fishing. He goes hunting. He's been trying to get me down there to go hunting with him for a long time.

00:16:22 Speaker_10
I'm like, Anthony, I don't, can you imagine me with a rifle down there in the backwoods of New Orleans? I mean, but it would be fun. I think we should, I would do that with him and film it because it just would be ridiculous, you know, in a good way.

00:16:36 Speaker_12
Oh, people would watch a whole series of you two going hunting together.

00:16:39 Speaker_10
Yeah, Into the Wild. But he loves that thing, like, you know, he'd be the one to, on that, there's those shows, you know, that take actors and put them on a mountain and then they have to kind of like survive. Yeah, that wouldn't be me.

00:16:52 Speaker_14
That wouldn't be you? No. How long do you think you could survive on a mountain? What's he got with him? What have they given him? Good question. I don't think it's, I'm not thinking of that show, uh, Naked and Afraid. Do you know that show?

00:17:02 Speaker_12
Yeah, that's when they're naked.

00:17:03 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got more than that, I'm imagining, like, you've got some more to... Yeah, I mean, he's not gonna sign up to Naked and Afraid, is he?

00:17:11 Speaker_12
Sebastian Stan?

00:17:12 Speaker_10
Naked and afraid. Just the one way to go out. The last hurrah. Return to innocence.

00:17:23 Speaker_14
I don't know why anyone agrees to that show, to be fair.

00:17:27 Speaker_10
It's fascinating, isn't it? I don't know either. There are people that do really well on it. I mean, somebody's cut out for it.

00:17:35 Speaker_14
But I just think, no matter how well you do on it, you're still butt naked on TV the whole time. And you've got to carry around the mic in a little bag and it looks really undignified. There's no winners. Have you seen Naked Attraction?

00:17:45 Speaker_12
Have you seen that?

00:17:46 Speaker_10
I have seen it. We were just talking about it. Were you? Just talking about it. Yeah, we were. Because we're talking about wild shows here. And that one, that's hilarious, isn't it? It's really like a car accident. Constantly enamored.

00:18:02 Speaker_14
Yeah, just the way the thing slides up and then from the feet to the middle is some of the worst moments on TV I've ever seen, I think.

00:18:10 Speaker_12
Imagine being behind that screen, what it's got above your dick. I'm just thinking, I actually hope that I get eliminated now, because I'd like them not to see my face for this to go on TV.

00:18:22 Speaker_12
At that point, I'll be like, I'm happy going home at this point.

00:18:25 Speaker_10
But they've got to be... I mean, I wonder what the submission process for that is. What are the questions that they ask?

00:18:35 Speaker_14
Yeah, I think they just send through a photo and full-length naked photo, but this producer looks at it on really slow internet So it loads up from the bottom so they can imagine they can imagine the reveal.

00:18:45 Speaker_12
I do what it'll be like Sometimes I pretend to be on naked. I've got electronic blinds That's amazing.

00:18:52 Speaker_10
It goes into a courtyard in a certain place.

00:18:55 Speaker_12
Yeah, yeah. So who's judging you? The postie. The postman and various people.

00:19:02 Speaker_12
Well, one of the most common problems is that the blokes who go on it are very afraid of, you know, looking small on TV, trying to make it look as impressive as possible before going on, but then there's a very fine line where

00:19:17 Speaker_12
if they just get all the way boner, they got to go home. It's like, you can't, we can't put that on TV. So they're like, I've got to make it as impressive as possible without getting too impressive. Yeah.

00:19:27 Speaker_10
But that would be even so... Sorry about this. It'd be so psychotic, wouldn't it? Like, you're like, your brain's just trying to figure out where to send blood to begin with. And it's like, you're just like, there, now!

00:19:42 Speaker_10
There's a million people that are on the other side just waiting. And it's...

00:19:47 Speaker_14
Apparently the studio is freezing cold as well. Yeah. So they're battling against the elements. That's not helping. Yeah. That's not helping anybody.

00:19:53 Speaker_12
POP LOBS OR BREAD! POP LOBS OR BREAD, SEBASTIAN STAN! POP LOBS OR BREAD!

00:19:57 Speaker_14
None. Ah, none. Great.

00:19:59 Speaker_10
That would be the bread.

00:20:00 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:20:01 Speaker_10
That would be the bread.

00:20:01 Speaker_14
I'm glad you said none. For a minute I thought you said none, and I thought, oh no, this is going to be a shorter episode.

00:20:05 Speaker_10
No, no, no. I love, bread and butter is the greatest food you can ever have.

00:20:10 Speaker_12
Yeah, it is delicious. None as well. We don't get none. We've had none a bit in the past, but not that often. It's great to have a shout out for none.

00:20:16 Speaker_10
Really? Yeah. No, I mean, especially here in England, I feel like it would be really good.

00:20:21 Speaker_14
Is that something that you do whenever you come over to England, is go for a curry?

00:20:26 Speaker_10
Um, no, that's not where my mind, my mind goes. Uh, no, I, but, but, but I do love, I have had Indian food here. It's great. But not, naan is like one of those breads that I could eat all the time.

00:20:41 Speaker_05
Are there dips with naan breads?

00:20:42 Speaker_12
Not naan bread. I've called it naan bread. That's the ultimate white thing to do. Yep. I'm gonna call myself out on that. I just said bread, bread. I'm an idiot. Keep that in the edit, Benito. I need to be on my toes.

00:20:55 Speaker_12
I don't want this sugar-coated and put out so that I make out like I'm better than I am. The world needs to hear that I just said bread, bread.

00:21:03 Speaker_10
Just the reactions. Come on.

00:21:07 Speaker_12
Ben's used to this. He just sits there and takes it all. Oh yeah, he's just sitting there. He doesn't care. He ain't listening to us. What do you make of him so far?

00:21:16 Speaker_10
He seems like a thinker, but because he has to, I think. He doesn't have much choice. I wonder if he hears you guys in his sleep.

00:21:30 Speaker_12
Yeah, that's a good point, actually. I would worry about that for him, because he's in the room for this, he's then editing it. He does a very good job of the edits as well, to be fair to him.

00:21:40 Speaker_12
So he must listen to it more than he needs to to make it good. And then he's got to put it out.

00:21:45 Speaker_10
and then he's on a whatsapp group of us to sort out when we're coming in for it and we consistently get the dates wrong and yeah mess up so oh when you're coming in oh yeah we're not good people to work with are you do you like you turn up here on a sunday and go oh this is the wrong day we'll just

00:22:01 Speaker_10
pop in at 4am and yeah, we'd be ready to go. So that might be a very interesting show.

00:22:08 Speaker_14
Talking about food at 4am. Yeah. And obviously it's, you know, booking guests is difficult because you've got to balance people's schedules and all of this sort of stuff. And then also he's got to deal with our schedules as well.

00:22:17 Speaker_14
So the guy, the guy, which are busier than you might imagine. I'm sure given the conversation so far. You probably think this is all we do.

00:22:24 Speaker_12
Yeah, but we've got we've got other stuff Well, that's the most insecure thing we've ever said to a guest No, I thought I saw a ring on that ring on that ring finger.

00:22:35 Speaker_10
So yeah. Yeah, there you go Yeah, so that's what you've gone. Yeah, I'm married your marriage. There's there's life in that. Yeah

00:22:46 Speaker_12
Let's get into your dream menu proper, your dream starter.

00:22:49 Speaker_10
I like yellowtail sashimi. I also really like a good strong butter lettuce salad.

00:22:57 Speaker_14
You really put some sauce behind saying that though.

00:23:00 Speaker_10
Yeah, well it's funny the butter lettuce because like it's like a very simple one, but I still I think it's effective, you know, like some olive oil I think and salt.

00:23:09 Speaker_12
I'm actually not familiar with butter lettuce.

00:23:11 Speaker_14
I think you are. I don't think I am. You will have had butter lettuce, but you might not be familiar with it.

00:23:15 Speaker_10
No, I'm not familiar with the term. There's this Italian restaurant in New York called Via Corotta and they do these little toasted bread like with butter and like anchovies and salt on it as a starter and that is like the best.

00:23:33 Speaker_12
I can see the dreaminess in your eyes. You're going off somewhere else in your eyes there and your mind.

00:23:37 Speaker_10
You clearly love this. I felt it when I said that. It felt right. I felt the butter.

00:23:43 Speaker_12
Melting. Do you take other people to that restaurant, introduce them to that starter? Many people. What's it like when they're about to take a bite, are you watching them and being like, I hope they like that?

00:23:52 Speaker_10
Not everybody has the same reaction as I do, but I mean that one's pretty well known in New York. Like I feel like via Corotta people know it. It's definitely... a good splurge food-wise.

00:24:06 Speaker_14
It's always so intense isn't it when you take people to a restaurant that you really like and make them get the thing that you really like and then it's just so nerve-wracking watching them eat it, waiting for the reaction.

00:24:16 Speaker_10
Well is that something you guys do all the time?

00:24:18 Speaker_14
All the time, yeah. Every day of my life. Because of this podcast, we get asked a lot for our food recommendations or restaurant recommendations.

00:24:25 Speaker_10
That's incredible though. That's great, isn't it? Because then you go, like, I was just telling Adam Pearson, who's in the movie, I was like, we need to do the trip, basically, you and I. Those movies, I mean, it seemed like a dream come true.

00:24:37 Speaker_12
Those guys have both been on this podcast and obviously we asked them about that.

00:24:41 Speaker_10
Really?

00:24:42 Speaker_12
Yeah, it does sound great.

00:24:44 Speaker_10
They're incredible and they clearly were eating in that movie for real. These were really good restaurants and they were having wine. I mean, it just seems like a dream.

00:24:52 Speaker_12
You and Adam should do it.

00:24:53 Speaker_10
It would be great. Dean Street Townhouse, by the way, here has that loaf of bread that's pretty great as a starter.

00:25:00 Speaker_12
Oh, I mean, you can make your whole menu bread. The things that were mainly bread-based. What's this loaf of bread that Dean Street Townhouse do?

00:25:09 Speaker_10
I don't know what it is, but they, again, they just, the way that it comes out, it's like warm and steamy and stuff. It's great.

00:25:15 Speaker_12
I hate to come back to a film we've already mentioned, but you were saying about when you really like a dish and then you're watching someone eat it and you're invested in it.

00:25:22 Speaker_12
How do you think that fresh guy, that cannibal, he makes someone a special dish and he thinks this is his favorite food, he loves it. It's made out of a person, obviously, because he's a cannibal and loves eating people.

00:25:32 Speaker_12
And he's serving it to a friend and they're about to eat it. How do you think he feels? Watching them?

00:25:37 Speaker_12
Yeah, he's got that thing of like, I hope they like it, but also, surely in his head somewhere he's got to be like, I mean, to be fair though, it is a person. It's an acquired taste. Yeah, it's an acquired taste as a human being.

00:25:48 Speaker_10
Well, that particular character, at least in the movie that I played, for him it's like he's just found out the greatest secret in the world that no one knows and he's just told it to you. So he's like, right? The expectation is that big.

00:26:07 Speaker_12
He wouldn't even be thinking.

00:26:09 Speaker_10
No, there would be no concern.

00:26:12 Speaker_12
So we're going for the anchovies on the toast for your starter. Yeah, delicious.

00:26:16 Speaker_14
Great. Absolutely love anchovies. I'm in a big anchovy phase at the moment. Anywhere it's available, I get anchovies.

00:26:23 Speaker_12
I always think of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. That's what I think of anchovies. That was the first time I ever heard of anchovies.

00:26:28 Speaker_14
On the pizza?

00:26:29 Speaker_12
Yeah, I was a little kid and they would hate anchovies on the pizza. Michelangelo especially was just like... I can't have them on the pizza. Doesn't want it on the pizza.

00:26:35 Speaker_10
Like pineapple, no way.

00:26:37 Speaker_12
You don't like pineapple on the pizza?

00:26:38 Speaker_10
No, I can't do. I can't mix sweet and salt, like I can't really do. I have to really space it out. It's bizarre.

00:26:45 Speaker_12
I've just come back from a holiday. I went to Japan for a holiday and we went up into the mountains to see flying squirrels. Very exciting day. And an Australian man came out to be our tour guide, but he lived in Japan for quite a while.

00:27:00 Speaker_12
And he was telling everyone, this is what we're going to do. We're going to go up there and behave like this and don't do this. But he wanted to put a bit of fun into it and not just all rules.

00:27:08 Speaker_12
So he went, I've actually got a flying squirrel with me in this, uh, in this bag here. And obviously all the adults were like, yeah, bullshit, just get, get on with it. But all the little kids were like excited about it.

00:27:18 Speaker_12
And then he got this bag backpack, he put it on the front and he was talking to this flying squirrel that was in the bag. It's clearly a cuddly toy, but it was a bit that he does as part of it. And he was like,

00:27:28 Speaker_12
The the squirrel would like to know what kind of toppings I like on my pizza And then he told the squirrel in Japanese that he liked pineapple and all the kids lost their minds And we're like what like properly we're not going into the mountains with this guy if he liked pineapple on his pizza And he got really shy about it than the tour guide after that He felt a bit shy that he'd told us all that he likes pineapple on his pizza but I was unclear as to why that was in the storyline for them and

00:27:55 Speaker_10
It's a specific thing. I'm just realizing when you were telling that story, I'm listening to it and the whole time I'm trying to guess the next time you're going to scream. I'm trying to catch it before it happens.

00:28:05 Speaker_12
There's no more screaming. There's not often screaming after this, but I might still do it at some point. Before you, Sebastian, I could throw in some extra ones.

00:28:13 Speaker_10
I know, it would be funny if you just walked down the street at one point and just randomly did that.

00:28:19 Speaker_12
Well, this is the irony of it all, is that because I shout out of nowhere on this podcast, I walk down the street, and then people who have seen the podcast... And now they're doing it to you. Millimeters from my face, And I do, I proper get scared.

00:28:35 Speaker_10
It's funny, isn't it?

00:28:36 Speaker_10
Because it's the same with like acting sometimes, like people just, they'll see something and they'll latch on to it and then they want desperately to share it with you and you're like, thank you, but you know, I'm just trying to get on with this day.

00:28:47 Speaker_14
This has been shared with me multiple times this morning. People shout that at me, pop it on some bread, and it's when I'm on stage doing standup, it's not even my catchphrase. So they're shouting his catchphrase at me.

00:28:58 Speaker_12
Pretty cool.

00:28:58 Speaker_14
Not for me.

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Not for Ed, it's a waking nightmare, his career's in tatters.

00:29:03 Speaker_10
You gotta have your own, you gotta get your own out there.

00:29:05 Speaker_14
I gotta get my own catchphrase rather than welcome to the dream restaurant. And I have a wife.

00:29:12 Speaker_10
That is my catchphrase. I do have to say that a lot. It would be hilarious if you said that just randomly. I'm just gonna have a tea, I have a wife.

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00:31:32 Speaker_10
Your dream main course. I mean, is there anything better than like spaghetti and meatballs? I don't know. Like that one, it's easy any day of the week, but then a good skirt steak or a good burger.

00:31:44 Speaker_12
Well, we could do spaghetti and meatballs and inside the pile is like a burger right in the middle.

00:31:50 Speaker_10
A surprise burger?

00:31:51 Speaker_12
When you finish all the spaghetti and meatballs, there's a perfect burger in there. Just for the road.

00:31:56 Speaker_10
If you wanted. No, I think the spaghetti and meatballs are brilliant.

00:32:00 Speaker_14
How much can you eat in a sitting? Are you like, can you go for it? Do you have to stop yourself eating too much?

00:32:04 Speaker_10
No, but you know how it is. Like it's, I think with especially like, you know, exercise and like diet, trying to kind of keep in shape and stuff.

00:32:12 Speaker_10
Like I usually find that I have to have these cheat days, you know, and then the cheat days become these crazy days where you could, but then for instance, I, you know, maybe I won't have breakfast that day because I know that the lunch is going to be this glorious thing and you can properly enjoy it.

00:32:30 Speaker_10
You got the rock with his cheat days. What does he have, like four baked brownies or something? Or a whole platter of pancakes?

00:32:40 Speaker_14
Trays of sushi as well. Which to me, sushi is not a cheap food. A tray of sushi to me is like, I'm being healthy today. I'm going to eat a tray of sushi. But The Rock is having a tray of sushi being like, oh, I'm so naughty. I'm The Rock. Naughty boy.

00:32:52 Speaker_14
I'm going to drink a bottle of this tequila that I own.

00:32:56 Speaker_10
Yeah. I don't know how he does it. I mean, he's pretty wild, but he's also so disciplined. Yeah, it's really crazy, you know, but it works for some people.

00:33:06 Speaker_12
Do you want to know what this married guy does in a cheat day? I'd love to. I'm married, I have a wife. He loses the ring. That's your whole day? Yeah.

00:33:16 Speaker_11
And you post it on Instagram, you go, it's a cheat day everyone, the ring's coming off, and then there's various selfies of you and people that you're cheating with.

00:33:25 Speaker_14
It's awful. My wife's fine with it because, you know, I put it in the calendar.

00:33:29 Speaker_12
Yeah, she accepts it's a cheat day. And it goes both ways.

00:33:32 Speaker_14
She'll hate this bit.

00:33:33 Speaker_12
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:34 Speaker_14
I don't know.

00:33:36 Speaker_12
It's alright, she doesn't listen to anything I do. Spaghetti and meatballs, for me, is like a cartoon food. Yes. Like, I saw it in cartoons before I had it. Yeah, like,

00:33:46 Speaker_10
The dog's one, where they pick on the same one and then they... Lady and the Tramp. The dog's one.

00:33:52 Speaker_12
But yeah, stuff like that, where I was like, I want to eat that because it looks so delicious in the cartoons and get you meatballs.

00:34:00 Speaker_10
Maybe that's why as kids, because like, don't you remember like having to eat your vegetables and never wanting to and everyone's just trying, because we don't see them in cartoons maybe. Maybe that's the deal.

00:34:10 Speaker_14
Yeah, there's no like, like a cartoon dog eating a big plate of vegetables being like, oh, that's delicious.

00:34:15 Speaker_10
Mm-hmm.

00:34:16 Speaker_14
That might change things. If Lady and the Tramp were having to go at a big plate of broccoli.

00:34:20 Speaker_12
Yeah? It's just because broccoli is not a great tasting situation. Although, you know, are you familiar with Wesley Two Scoops Berry?

00:34:29 Speaker_12
No, so when I was a kid, I'm me and I was a kid too gladiators You must be familiar with the show gladiators the TV show gladiator fantastic show.

00:34:39 Speaker_12
Yeah fantastic show And we had over here as well and there was a series where it was like the American gladiators and the UK gladiators meet in and it was like this hyper this big like we're gonna find who the ultimate champion is and

00:34:53 Speaker_12
And the American contestant was called Wesley Two Scoops Berry, and he was called Two Scoops because his mother would try and get him to eat his broccoli when he was a kid, and she'd say, just two more scoops.

00:35:04 Speaker_12
Which for me was always confusing, because I was like, you don't scoop broccoli, but I still, like, I really liked Wesley Two Scoops Berry. He could jump over a car. Two cars. Huh? Two cars. End to end.

00:35:14 Speaker_14
Yeah, he had like a home VHS of him jumping over two cars, and his mother always gave him two scoops of vegetables.

00:35:20 Speaker_12
Yeah. And that made me want to eat vegetables. That's the first thing as a kid that made me want to eat vegetables was Wesley Two Scoops Berry because he was so great.

00:35:27 Speaker_10
That's why we need superheroes because it's, especially when you're a kid, it's all you look at, you know, like the comic books and all that. I remember Gladiators when I was growing up. That's why, also wrestling.

00:35:39 Speaker_10
I was a big, big wrestling fan for the same reason, you know, I just loved I kept thinking that it would be so cool to walk into an arena with a song.

00:35:48 Speaker_12
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of my favorite parts of like, I didn't really watch wrestling, so I didn't have the TV channels it was on, but I knew what songs they walked on to because my friends had the music that they bought on CD.

00:36:00 Speaker_12
So I was listening to those all the time and playing them. Yeah.

00:36:02 Speaker_14
Imagining walking in. Yeah. I mean, I still, I still watch wrestling because I'm essentially a 14 year old boy and I still think about wouldn't it be great to walk into a stadium to my own music. Even though he's a comedian and he can walk on stage.

00:36:18 Speaker_14
But then I just do comedy. I don't get to body slam anyone or anything.

00:36:21 Speaker_12
But you are a superhero as well. So you get to experience that. You've experienced a taste of that.

00:36:26 Speaker_10
Oh, yeah. For sure. I mean, it's the most gratifying thing in the world. Like when you, you know, when you have like a kid that comes up to you and just like, is that arm metal? You know, and you're like, yes, of course.

00:36:39 Speaker_10
But you know, it's just a camouflage now. That's good. Um, and they're like, oh interesting.

00:36:45 Speaker_12
That's good because like recently, uh, as of, I don't know when this podcast actually gonna go out, but we lost Maggie Smith and someone told me a story about her when, uh, you know, a kid who was a fan of Harry Potter went up to her and said, is it true that you can turn it to a cat?

00:36:59 Speaker_12
And she told the kid to pull themselves together. I've got more respect for that to be honest. She said pull yourself together.

00:37:06 Speaker_10
That's so funny. I would have, I still think of her as Wendy. Oh yeah. Remember that movie? Yeah, Hook. Yeah, that movie I was obsessed with when I was a kid.

00:37:14 Speaker_10
Because I really, I couldn't, you know, I'm like the whole concept of Peter Pan and this guy going back, it was just so great.

00:37:22 Speaker_12
Well, that's come up on this podcast a few times because of Bangarang. That scene when they're eating, especially when there's nothing, it looks delicious.

00:37:30 Speaker_10
No, no, no, for sure. As a kid, all the colors and everything in there, you're like, what is that made of? Did you ever want to eat Play-Doh when you were a kid?

00:37:37 Speaker_14
Yeah, big time.

00:37:38 Speaker_10
Me too. I don't know why. Would have loved to have eaten it. Looked delicious.

00:37:42 Speaker_14
Yeah, when I still see it, I'm like, oh, you could squeeze it. Because it smells, it smells kind of nice as well, right? It smells like sort of clean and you don't want to see what it tastes like.

00:37:50 Speaker_12
There's flavours. We did a live tour of this podcast around the UK and we would ask the audiences their menus and read them out. They'd write them before we went on stage. We'd pick them out and read out the best ones.

00:38:01 Speaker_12
And one person for their dream drink said they would like the fruit shampoo they use, but it has to taste as good as it smells. And that got an applause from the entire room. The entire thing was like, yeah, I'm going to drink my shampoo if it didn't.

00:38:14 Speaker_14
That might say more about our listeners than the sort of UK populace as a whole. But yeah, a lot of shampoo drinkers listen to this. I think it would pair nicely with some Play-Doh.

00:38:24 Speaker_10
The only thing I can think about with shampoo is that prank I've seen on YouTube at one point where there's, where they go around, there's a guy kind of washing his hair. He doesn't know that there's someone above him that keeps squeezing shampoo.

00:38:36 Speaker_10
He keeps trying to get the shampoo out. It's like a nightmare. You can't get it out. I feel like you guys would be great at pranks.

00:38:51 Speaker_12
Would we be good at pranks? We love Jackass. We love Jackass. Steve-O was sitting in that seat. No, we've washed it since. But Steve-O, we had Steve-O in it.

00:39:00 Speaker_10
What a voice, right? It's such a specific character.

00:39:05 Speaker_12
Every time I'm watching anything with a man or whatever, my... Fucking hell. What a Freudian slip. I was gonna say my girlfriend, but I went to say my sister. What do you think about that? Don't ask James about his cheat days.

00:39:21 Speaker_12
Anyway, my girlfriend always, if I'm watching a Steve-O thing, says from the other room, is that Whoopi Goldberg?

00:39:27 Speaker_14
When Steve-O was on the podcast, we had loads of people saying he sounds exactly like Whoopi Goldberg.

00:39:31 Speaker_10
I never ever thought, I never made that connection in my head until now. Maybe that's what I'll be doing after this, going to see how that works.

00:39:40 Speaker_14
Get someone to send you, and not label them properly, clips of Whoopi and clips of Steve-O, and you can see if you can work out the difference. Yeah, I mean, probably from what they're saying, you better work out.

00:39:57 Speaker_10
Your dream side dish, Sebastian? Fries. Definitely. Always wins. Like really crispy fries. Mashed potatoes.

00:40:05 Speaker_14
Oh, you could go for all the potatoes. We could get you a potato platter with all the different potatoes.

00:40:09 Speaker_10
I know. Are people like really, really specific, intricate with these? Because I still feel like there's a few that you don't... That question, right, that everyone's like, if you had your last meal, what would it be?

00:40:22 Speaker_10
Like, it's always just the most generic of stuff.

00:40:25 Speaker_14
I mean, at least for me, but... Well, yeah, sometimes, yeah, it depends. We've had guests on who are like, I want this thing from this restaurant in this year. And all, yeah, like, people who have really, like, it's just one specific thing they want.

00:40:38 Speaker_14
And then, obviously, I think the answer is fries a lot of the time, because they're just everyone's favorite.

00:40:43 Speaker_12
yeah yeah it's not about you know it's got to be what you genuinely want to eat as well yeah anyway anyone who comes on here and tries just to say stuff to be smart and try and go I'm going to say what other people haven't said we can see through that exactly I mean like you know I'm going to be honest like that guy was to that lion squirrel just simply going pumpkin seeds yeah yeah yeah what they are nice though if you toast them up

00:41:07 Speaker_10
They are, actually.

00:41:08 Speaker_12
Your pumpkin seeds, no.

00:41:11 Speaker_10
I do like pumpkin seeds. I never thought I would. But also if you put them in a butter lettuce salad with avocado.

00:41:18 Speaker_12
Well, you could have the butter lettuce salad also as your side dish. You could have some fries and some salad. I think we'd allow that to be more than one thing, you know?

00:41:27 Speaker_14
With pumpkin seeds. So you brought up the pumpkin seeds as a joke, but now you're having pumpkin seeds. You know what else is really good? Toasted pecans. I'd say they're my favourite nut when they're toasted or roasted with salt.

00:41:42 Speaker_14
They turn into almost like a sweet. They're so delicious, they're almost dairy-like. I agree, actually.

00:41:48 Speaker_12
They are the sweetest of the nuts.

00:41:50 Speaker_14
Raw pecans, I'm not interested. Shout out to the macadamia as well, if we're talking about the most delicious nuts. Roasted, salted macadamias just cover me in them.

00:41:59 Speaker_12
Every time people say macadamia nut, I just think of that film Best in Show. You've seen that?

00:42:03 Speaker_10
Great movie.

00:42:04 Speaker_12
I haven't seen it in a while. Christopher Guest is talking about his dog. It's called Harlan Pepper, the character. He says he used to be able to name every single type of nut that there was. And he's just going like, cashew nut. They go, macadamia nut.

00:42:19 Speaker_12
He says, that's the one that would send my mother through the roof. I always figure if someone says macadamia nut, I just think about Christopher Guest doing that character.

00:42:28 Speaker_10
He was so funny. He was so good. And also the one waiting for Guffman.

00:42:33 Speaker_12
Yeah. They're making the Spinal Tap too? You excited about that?

00:42:37 Speaker_10
Here's a very embarrassing thing. I actually have never seen the first one. Wow. It's the one I have not seen that they're in.

00:42:43 Speaker_14
I mean... That's the one that everyone's seen who hasn't seen any of the others.

00:42:47 Speaker_12
Yeah, you've seen Waiting for Guffman and not Spinal Tap. You might be the only person who can say that.

00:42:51 Speaker_10
And it's Rob Reiner, right? Who did that, I think. Which is also crazy, because he's done such eclectic different movies, but... Yeah.

00:42:57 Speaker_12
Well, that was during... I mean, that run of films that he did around then is bananas. It's Spinal Tap, I don't know if it's in this order, When Harry Met Sally, A Few Good Men... And then Misery. Misery. And Princess Bride.

00:43:11 Speaker_12
I think it's like five films in a row. All different, all completely different genres. Is there a director you'd really love to work with?

00:43:18 Speaker_10
I mean, I mean, hmm, that's really, it's kind of a harder question than I thought. I would always have said, you know, like Martin Scorsese. I mean, it just feels crazy to me of like a world without him. I can't even picture it.

00:43:34 Speaker_10
I feel the same way about Jack Nicholson. Like I'm like, I'm, cause these guys are so much older now. So I, it's really strange to watch them get older. Cause then I feel like,

00:43:43 Speaker_10
Do you feel that way now like people we grew up with when you see them older like you feel your own age as well?

00:43:48 Speaker_12
It's like yeah, I'm going through a phase of trying to watch all the Scorsese movies I've not seen King of Comedy.

00:43:54 Speaker_10
That's one of my favorite films ever. It's just incredible that film.

00:43:56 Speaker_12
It's so genuinely funny as well. It's one of the few people talk about like When someone's doing stand-up comedy in a film, it rarely works. It's rarely His end monologue at the end of that that he does on late night is genuinely good

00:44:10 Speaker_12
And I think the whole movie would fall apart if it wasn't. It's really hard to get that right in a film, I think.

00:44:15 Speaker_10
Speaking of food and Morris Corsese movies, I actually feel like if you watch Morris Corsese movies and anytime they have those big Italian dinners, you're always somehow hungry, like watching that. You're like, oh, I want to have.

00:44:28 Speaker_14
Yeah, what they're having, you know feel like any any sort of Mafia film or TV show I'm rewatching The Sopranos at the moment.

00:44:34 Speaker_14
I'm putting on weight at the same time because I'm ordering cold cuts I'm ordering so much gabagool and you know, I'm just eating it at the fridge like Tony I'm breathing heavily through my nose I'm constantly in my dressing gown, but you've got it when you see it on the screen.

00:44:50 Speaker_14
You've got to have it I'm ordering big subs, you know

00:44:52 Speaker_10
I'm just picturing one day like your wife waking up and you're just in the kitchen and like in like a tank top and like a kimono and shorts just like eating a sandwich and she's like, what are you doing?

00:45:03 Speaker_14
Yeah, she wouldn't be confused by that. She knows I'm rewatching The Sopranos.

00:45:06 Speaker_11
She knows that's what's happening. Yeah, it just looks like the geese flew away. Yeah, you're having a midlife crisis.

00:45:14 Speaker_14
walking down to collect the paper at the end of the path.

00:45:18 Speaker_13
I mean, I like that guy.

00:45:19 Speaker_10
Someone comes up to you and goes, excuse me, sir, do you know the time? No! Your dream drink? I think it's somewhere between a really chilled gin martini with a twist. Or a Negroni. Empress Gin. That's a really good Empress Gin.

00:45:40 Speaker_10
Also, Empress Gin with tonic is really good. I know that's like gin and tonic is whatever, right? But that gin with the tonic is a really good drink.

00:45:50 Speaker_12
Made well, it's a completely new drink. Gin and tonic. When someone makes you a proper good one, Yeah. Yeah. You are. Oh, okay. This is totally different to what I've been drinking. Um, yeah. And it is just like spending a bit more time.

00:46:02 Speaker_14
And gin having like the gin having a bit more flavor to it rather than just like bog standard gin.

00:46:07 Speaker_10
Yeah. And this one sort of turns purple when you pour it in there. It's, it's very, uh, that also gives it a little effect, but for some reason it just compliments it. Well, that's crazy. It turns purple. Yeah. How does that happen?

00:46:20 Speaker_14
I don't know. I'm across the side, so I'm sure it's good.

00:46:22 Speaker_12
The first time someone did that and you didn't know it was going to happen and you saw it turn purple, did it remind you of Thanos and you got angry?

00:46:29 Speaker_10
Oh, I thought you were going to say New Year's Eve. No, Thanos. That motherfucker! I don't think about it as much as you think.

00:46:42 Speaker_12
I would if it happened to me. I would if it happened to me, I'd think about violence all the time. You got snapped. You got dusted.

00:46:48 Speaker_10
I'd be fucking furious at that guy. I know. Well, it was amazing how well that villain was. In a way, he actually was, you know, he was having kind of his own midlife crisis, and then turned on the world.

00:47:00 Speaker_10
Yeah, there were levels, there were levels to that.

00:47:02 Speaker_12
What do you think that was like for your character, obviously a lot of characters happen to, but you're there, you've been in Wakanda fighting, and then you feel a bit, oh I feel a bit shitty, and then suddenly you're on this massive battle, you're in a completely different place,

00:47:16 Speaker_12
Did you think at some point you had to like get yourself Bucky had to get himself together? Okay, fuck it.

00:47:20 Speaker_12
It's a different battle now a lot of shit's happening I'll get caught up on it later or was Bucky like guys Please catch me up on what's been happening because like I can't just go into this fight not knowing I've got to know what's going on I think I think the minute he's so used to fighting and enemies at the minute he sees it It's like yeah right back in it.

00:47:39 Speaker_10
Sure. It's uh, but the version you described would have been I think more cinematic wait timeout What the fuck is happening around here? I just, I wanted to go to the bathroom and I came back and like everything's a different world.

00:47:56 Speaker_12
Yeah, because they even knew this was like a different Thanos from a different time and that Thor's already cut the other guy's head off. Yeah.

00:48:02 Speaker_12
But actually this is someone else from a different time, but we still need to, we kind of messed up with the time travel thing and just, or whether it's like we'll catch you up later, but the baddies are the same ones as before.

00:48:12 Speaker_14
I feel like you've thought about this more than anyone else on the planet. No way, man.

00:48:16 Speaker_10
It's interesting though, that movie does spiral down a rabbit hole. You find yourself kind of going and asking different things, because once the time thing gets flipped, anything is possible, you know?

00:48:27 Speaker_10
It's like, we can all keep doing what we're doing, but then Doctor Strange can turn back time. Like, I mean, you can't fuck with that.

00:48:37 Speaker_12
That's why it's very important that he doesn't have that stone anymore. If he did, every movie would just be like, yeah, there you go.

00:48:46 Speaker_14
I would like to see like a caper film with him where he's just fucking around with time for a laugh Yeah, yeah, yeah keeps going back in time to the same spot.

00:48:53 Speaker_10
Yeah Over and over again.

00:48:56 Speaker_12
We had a cartoon here when we were kids called Bernard's watch. You familiar with Bernard's watch? It was good, but it's really good.

00:49:02 Speaker_12
It was good, but like everyone had the kind of same problem with it But like it was a little kid and he had a watch that could stop time But he could just walk around then do whatever so everything would freeze the only British thing that I remember when I was very very little is a very controversial show called Benny Hill

00:49:21 Speaker_12
He should never be in possession of Bernard's watch. If it was Benny's watch it would be a very different show.

00:49:26 Speaker_14
He causes enough trouble when time's moving normally, right? Chasing those poor ladies around. Chasing those poor ladies around the trees and stuff. We do the music.

00:49:33 Speaker_14
It does blow my mind that Benny Hill was such a big export across the Atlantic that that was a thing.

00:49:37 Speaker_10
It's weird. I remember just growing up and seeing that show when I was little and then Beverly Hills 90210, strangely, and Baywatch. They were massive in Europe.

00:49:50 Speaker_14
Yeah, the two representations of different cultures. Benny Hill and Baywatch. Yeah.

00:49:55 Speaker_12
I could have done a crossover episode where Benny's chasing the ladies but it's all in slow motion.

00:50:01 Speaker_14
Yeah. Or the beginning of the Baywatch titles at the beginning but with the Benny Hill music in the background instead. Oh yeah, that'd be good. Cadbury chocolate.

00:50:10 Speaker_12
Cadbury chocolate? Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.

00:50:12 Speaker_10
It's such a thing, isn't it?

00:50:14 Speaker_12
It's good stuff. Well, American chocolate is shit.

00:50:17 Speaker_14
Maybe wrap up to that slowly before... Okay, well, Hershey's is the worst thing I've ever tasted.

00:50:22 Speaker_10
No, no, no, you can't compare those. But Tony's chocolate is this new... It's fairly new, right? Yeah, from Holland. Unbelievable.

00:50:31 Speaker_14
Also they, because of all of the, they're not like solid standard chunks in the bar, you end up breaking off a bit to be like, I'll just have a bit, but it comes off at a weird angle and then you break up another bit, and then it's gone.

00:50:42 Speaker_10
There's half, it's just gone, you did it. Do you remember Kinder Eggs? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were great. I remember when you, Crack that thing open a little astronaut would come out. Yeah, or it'd be like a stupid one.

00:50:54 Speaker_10
You'd be like, no, I gotta get another one.

00:50:56 Speaker_12
Yeah There was a period of time where it was always a little like China terrapin Like playing the pan pipes or like with a surfboard as there's other different terrapins. Yeah, that was when I got into kinder eggs That was your favorite era of kinder.

00:51:10 Speaker_12
I want to get all the terrapins that you got in the kinder eggs I got a few it was a great brilliant idea.

00:51:14 Speaker_10
Whoever invented the kinder egg.

00:51:15 Speaker_12
Yeah, I

00:51:16 Speaker_14
The toys came in phases like Marvel, didn't they?

00:51:20 Speaker_12
I think they still do Kinder Surprises, but they're not as popular that Marvel would consider doing a crossover with them. That would be the pinnacle of your career, right?

00:51:29 Speaker_12
If someone said, we're going to do you in a Kinder Egg, from any film you've been in.

00:51:33 Speaker_10
Yeah, that would be like, I made it.

00:51:37 Speaker_12
I guess it would probably be Marvel.

00:51:39 Speaker_14
I don't think it'd be the cannibal in the kinder egg or you as Tommy Lee It just ends up being a mistake. I mean by someone just does one. Yeah randomly, so I'd buy the Tommy Lee kinder egg. Yeah 100% Yeah, I mean

00:52:00 Speaker_14
I'd recognize him on Naked Attraction straight away, Tommy Lee.

00:52:02 Speaker_12
Yeah, Tommy Lee on Naked Attraction, surely. For everyone else, it's just the feet, but Tommy.

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00:53:49 Speaker_12
Your dream dessert, Sebastian, we've just been talking a bit about chocolate and we've kind of like stumbled into the desserts already.

00:53:54 Speaker_10
Your eyes really lit up when you're talking about chocolate. In the US, there's something called Jenny's ice cream. I don't know why, it's phenomenal. It's the best ice cream I've had. Do you guys have good ice cream here?

00:54:04 Speaker_12
yeah well it's not really we do but i wouldn't say it's like uk brand so i mean if i go out i'm just gonna get ben and jerry's so we got a lot of the same brands that yeah you would have and then there's a lot of good ice cream places but when we go to the states that's when we're excited to have ice cream yeah well you'll text me pictures of ice cream from america

00:54:25 Speaker_12
Yeah. And, and, and especially like they've got, you know, you've got so many flavors of Ben and Jerry's that we don't have. So that's my first port of call.

00:54:33 Speaker_12
Once when I, when, you know, before we started recording today, you were saying like, come in and work in here. And when you arrive, you're a bit jet lagged. I arrived in Canada once. I had a gig that night.

00:54:42 Speaker_12
I was meant to do a show that night, but I missed the show because I'd gone out, got a tub of Ben and Jerry's that you can't get here. And halfway through just passed out on my bed.

00:54:52 Speaker_10
Cause of the sugar high.

00:54:53 Speaker_12
I was just, I was jet-lagged, but also I was just so into eating this Ben & Jerry's it put me into this like hibernation state. And I just, I just, that was it. And I woke up, the gig had already been and gone.

00:55:03 Speaker_12
I had multiple texts on my phone from the promoters and everyone. And just a Ben & Jerry's tub in my hand and a spoon in the other, just on my bed.

00:55:10 Speaker_10
That's one of the most terrifying things. It's like when you wake up and like, you see your phone's just been going or something and people have been trying to get, you know, reach you for whatever reason. But I, speaking of pranks, it's so silly.

00:55:25 Speaker_10
There's another one I saw recently on YouTube and it's like, It's really bad. Like these guys clearly have known each other for a long time.

00:55:33 Speaker_10
I don't even know what it's called, but like, they, they like got together and like, they had like a celebration night, you know, taking shots and hanging out and all this stuff.

00:55:43 Speaker_10
The next day, the guy, one of them wakes up and he's strapped to a hospital bed and he doesn't know where, how he got there. And they're like, you've been in a coma for 10 years.

00:55:57 Speaker_10
And his friend comes in, in prosthetics, having gained weight, and he's like, you have a son, and I've been taking care of him. And he's just, it's terrifying, honestly, but it's horrifically funny.

00:56:09 Speaker_10
And he, you know, it's like, he just doesn't know what to do with it. I didn't know you liked pranks so much. They are good, practically. I think, yeah, I mean, you have to, you know, you want to be safe. I'm not like, but like, it is funny sometimes.

00:56:27 Speaker_10
You've got to keep surprising yourself and your friends.

00:56:30 Speaker_12
It's fun to do that. Have you ever played a prank on anyone that you're particularly proud of?

00:56:39 Speaker_10
It's so stupid. But I have a friend who like, he always manages, he can fall asleep anytime. I saw him fall asleep in the middle of a nightclub. Like he took a nap and like came back and was like right back as if he got reinvigorated.

00:56:55 Speaker_10
And I'd be so jealous of him. Cause I'd be like, how do you do it? How do you just fall asleep? Falls asleep very easily all the time. So one time he was staying over, he lives in LA, came to New York and he was crashing over my house.

00:57:07 Speaker_10
And he fell asleep and I took headphones and I put it over his head, over his ears, and I plugged it into like the fucking speakers.

00:57:17 Speaker_10
And I went and researched T-Rex, like, you know, the dinosaur in Jurassic Park, when like at the very end where he's like, dun, dun, dun, dun. And he's like.

00:57:31 Speaker_10
and the thing falls or whatever and I cranked that up and I just pressed play just trying to wake him up and all I got was just this one quick like little skinny two.

00:57:41 Speaker_12
I was like fuck. It's almost more satisfying than him completely being terrified just very lazily just going, hey man.

00:57:50 Speaker_10
I'm like well god forbid there's ever a fire or anything and you're in the house and we'll never make it.

00:57:56 Speaker_12
That's what he'd be like after the blip though if he got snapped by Thanos. He'd just be like, right back in, hey, okay, cool. Okay, it was a different battlefield, but I've pretty much got my bearings.

00:58:08 Speaker_10
Yeah, I've just been napping again. He's like, in a totally different city, doesn't recognise it.

00:58:14 Speaker_12
So, is Jenny's Ice Cream your dream dessert?

00:58:17 Speaker_10
I'll put that one out there, because maybe if someone does go to America, they'll remember that one and they'll try it. What's the best flavour of Jenny's? Oh man, there's like a peanut butter chocolate one.

00:58:29 Speaker_10
There is kind of like a chocolate chip Rocky Road situation. There's like a one with like a brownie swirl. I love all that.

00:58:36 Speaker_14
Some people are like, oh, I only like, I want just like one flavor of ice cream, just like plain little vanilla. I want, just throw everything in there. I want chunks. Yeah. I don't, I don't know about the vanilla one time only.

00:58:49 Speaker_10
Yeah.

00:58:50 Speaker_14
These people are being contrary just for the sake of it. Right. Pretending they've got sophisticated palates, but they're boring as hell.

00:58:56 Speaker_12
Yeah, I try not to like, you know, rise to it, but whenever someone is, it's like, I'm just gonna get a scoop of vanilla. I was like, are you, you know, we're out of nice cream paper.

00:59:04 Speaker_10
It seems like such a waste of, it's a waste of opportunity. That's how it feels. Yeah. Because it's like, if you're gonna do it, you might as well go for it. Yeah. You're not even getting your bang for your buck, right?

00:59:14 Speaker_10
Like, it's like, it's, I wanted to make some analogy that I'm too tired to make.

00:59:19 Speaker_12
But yeah, I think we know what we're saying I feel that we should like plan a prank to do on a On one of your like maybe we could get Anthony Mackie and we could assist you in pranking him.

00:59:30 Speaker_14
No, absolutely What if we do have him on this podcast because he said he'd be really good if we do manage to book him for this podcast We're happy to prank him on your behalf

00:59:38 Speaker_10
Um, if you do, yes, I mean, then maybe you need to email me and I'll, I'll have to figure out how to, how to do it, but... We could just keep pouring shampoo on him?

00:59:48 Speaker_12
Does that work if it's not in the show? And he can see us?

00:59:58 Speaker_10
We gotta think we gotta think somehow but but it's possible I mean he would he'll get me back or he'll try to get me back But if he gets angry at the prank you have to admit that you were involved in it because if we go Oh, no, it was Sebastian and then you deny all knowledge of it.

01:00:13 Speaker_10
Yeah, it would be like Imagine if to do this podcast he has to drive like 45 minutes to a warehouse somewhere in like South London and it's just in the dark and you guys are sitting there by candlelight.

01:00:27 Speaker_12
If it's in a warehouse he should open the door and it should be full of people and then he realizes it's the rap battle from 8 Mile.

01:00:35 Speaker_11
And we've set him up.

01:00:36 Speaker_12
You've gotta do it again.

01:00:37 Speaker_11
And he's gotta go up.

01:00:38 Speaker_12
He's gotta go up there. We could get Eminem. Then you could join in as well. Your surname's Stan. You could get up. You've written Eminem loads of letters. Actually, that's when you and Mackie would join forces, surely. Because you both hate Eminem.

01:00:52 Speaker_12
You're Stan and the guy that he beat in the rap battle.

01:00:54 Speaker_10
By the way, do you remember that movie, How Good That Was? Yeah, it was incredible. And also, thank you for reminding me, he is in that film. He's great in it.

01:01:03 Speaker_12
He's great in it.

01:01:03 Speaker_10
He's in so many good movies actually, but like- That doesn't matter, we're gonna prank the fuck out of this guy. We're gonna prank him so hard. But that would be, it would be funny, like he's just, he thinks he's going to a podcast, but it's a rave.

01:01:15 Speaker_10
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just waiting for him.

01:01:18 Speaker_12
He's got, I mean, hopefully, cause like today, and you know, this is a trick of the trade that I didn't know happened, but like someone arrived before you, who's called a go-ahead, right? Who kind of turns up here first.

01:01:30 Speaker_12
Which happens sometimes if people are like, you know, have busy schedules and they're going from one place to the other. So if Mackie, I would worry that I'd go ahead and arrive there and text him and go, this is a fucking raid. This is not a podcast.

01:01:42 Speaker_12
They're setting you up for a prank. I think Sebastian stands behind him. You do not come here, Anthony.

01:01:47 Speaker_10
It just goes to, it's like, I'm just recreating that movie, The Game on him. He's involved in high speed chase all the way to Mexico. It just goes. on and off.

01:01:58 Speaker_10
I always thought it'd be funny to do like a movie about actors that take the roles to like the next level, you know, but anyway.

01:02:06 Speaker_12
You go really extreme. I still think there's like maybe you and him should join forces and prank Eminem. I think that is a, you know, as much as I'd like to.

01:02:14 Speaker_10
Why do I feel like that would fail? Yeah, I don't think that would go well.

01:02:18 Speaker_12
You never know what mood Eminem's going to be in.

01:02:20 Speaker_14
But you know. You can get him.

01:02:22 Speaker_10
The two of you join forces. I could also see him just unfazed. Like the same stoic face, no emotion, and just walk out.

01:02:32 Speaker_14
I've never seen him like giggling in an interview. I don't feel like he would like chuckle at a prank.

01:02:38 Speaker_10
Yeah, me neither.

01:02:39 Speaker_14
Yeah, to be fair.

01:02:42 Speaker_12
I'm going to read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it. You would like sparkling water. You would like naan for poppadoms or bread. You would like anchovies on toast from Via Corotta in New York.

01:02:52 Speaker_12
Main course you want spaghetti and meatballs. A side dish of fries and butter lettuce salad. Drink an Empress Gin with sunflower seeds and avocado. Pumpkin seeds, sorry.

01:03:04 Speaker_12
Drink Empress Gin Martini with a twist, and dessert you would like, Jenny's Ice Cream, a bunch of different scoops. We kind of like, we shouted out a few, the brownie swirl, the peanut butter chocolate. Have them all in a bowl together.

01:03:16 Speaker_10
I mean, one doesn't, or shouldn't survive that meal.

01:03:21 Speaker_12
Sounds good though, right?

01:03:22 Speaker_10
Does it sound good hearing it back? Yeah, I mean, honestly, if that was the way to go, that would be, I think, okay for me.

01:03:30 Speaker_14
We're going to go and plan this prank, but thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Sebastian.

01:03:34 Speaker_10
You guys are amazing. Thank you for having me.

01:03:36 Speaker_14
Thank you, Sebastian. Thank you so much to Sebastian for coming on the Off Menu podcast. He loves pranks.

01:03:47 Speaker_12
He loves pranks. That's the main thing I felt like, you know, no one else has found that out in an interview with Sebastian Stan so far.

01:03:54 Speaker_14
I'm starting to think we should do another podcast about pranks.

01:03:57 Speaker_12
Well, maybe a YouTube series where we prank people.

01:03:59 Speaker_14
Because look, he enjoyed food and he enjoyed talking about food. I really liked Sebastian. I thought it was a fun interview. But he really came alive when we started talking about pranks.

01:04:08 Speaker_12
Yeah he liked pranks a lot and remembering pranks he had seen and so like I think that maybe that's one where we do like just people's favorite pranks. Yeah. So rather than pranking people we talk about pranks that they love.

01:04:21 Speaker_14
Or I'd go and watch a feature-length film where it's just Sebastian Stan dramatically describing pranks he'd seen.

01:04:27 Speaker_12
Or recreating pranks that he's seen. Yeah. Remember there's that film, is it called Act of Violence? I think there's a film where they get these warlords to recreate horrific things that they did.

01:04:42 Speaker_12
And then by the end, they're actually confronted with the reality of what they've done for the first time. That's not going to happen with Stan. Maybe Sebastian Stan recreates pranks he's seen.

01:04:52 Speaker_14
He's not going to be confronted by the horror of the pranks. He's going to love the pranks even more. I can't stress enough, because you're listening to this, how excited he was to talk about the pranks. Yeah, it was beautiful.

01:05:05 Speaker_12
We're gonna get Mackey on this pod. Get Mackey on the pod whether we'll prank him or not Remains to be seen or let the secret ingredient mac and cheese Maccy D's Maccy D's That's good.

01:05:17 Speaker_12
Although if he listens to this episode now, which he could because we just talked to his buddy Yeah, he'll know the secret ingredient for when he's on he's not listen to this Anthony Mackie might listen to this. He'd be surprised.

01:05:28 Speaker_14
We should also say that Sebastian is playing Donald Trump in The Apprentice, which, you know, it's just been the US election, James. So it's crazy that we didn't mention that to him. But to be fair, we got waylaid with pranks.

01:05:40 Speaker_12
Yeah, and it's not crazy, because we actually did it ages ago, and he was promoting a different film.

01:05:45 Speaker_14
Yes.

01:05:45 Speaker_12
And now, because of the scheduling, it's coming out now, and we look crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:49 Speaker_14
But we're not the crazy ones. No, we're not the crazy ones. Well, if anything, Donald Trump is the crazy one.

01:05:52 Speaker_12
Yes. And put that out, Benito. Don't edit that out. I know you love Trump. Don't edit it out. Don't edit it out, Benito. Keep it in there. Donald Trump, you're crazy. We're recording this now, before the US elections, because I'm going away.

01:06:04 Speaker_12
So, we don't know who's won yet. No. But you're listening to it the day after. Yeah. So you know who won, and so help me God, better not be the crazy guy. Benito, take off that MAGA hat. Benito, take off that MAGA hat right this instant.

01:06:16 Speaker_12
This is what you get when you make us record something about your beloved Trump. The Apprentice is in cinemas now. The monkeys are in charge of the bus. The monkeys are in charge of the bus. Hashtag. Sebastian did not say winter peas, either.

01:06:27 Speaker_12
No, he did not say winter peas. That's good. We had some butter lettuce. Some butter lettuce, which I was unfamiliar with. Yeah. That was exciting, but that's as close as we got to winter peas. There weren't any winter peas there.

01:06:38 Speaker_14
There was going to be some more butter lettuce chat, I think, but then Sebastian remembered a prank.

01:06:43 Speaker_12
Yeah, yeah. Then pranks come into things, and we've talked about pranks for a while, so.

01:06:47 Speaker_14
I wish you guys could see Benito when we work with him.

01:06:49 Speaker_12
Yeah, yeah. He hates working with us. He hates it. Benito sits there behind his laptop just staring ahead looking like he's just praying for the sweet release of death. You're a thinker. He's a thinker.

01:07:04 Speaker_12
It's the first time someone's labelled him as a thinker. Yeah. And that was a very nice way of saying this guy is zoned out. This guy looks sad.

01:07:11 Speaker_12
This guy looks sad and like he's not listening to what's going on in the room and he wants to be at home with his partner and his dog. Yeah. Look, go and see a different man. It's in cinemas now. Get yourself along to watch it.

01:07:25 Speaker_12
Thank you so much, Sebastian, for coming to the dream restaurant. He'll be listening to this.

01:07:28 Speaker_14
Yeah. Also, he was jet lagged. And I feel like, you know, when you do something when you're jet lagged and it doesn't feel quite real, it's almost like a dreamlike thing. Yeah. That chat would surely be something in a few days.

01:07:39 Speaker_14
He's going to be like, did I do that?

01:07:41 Speaker_12
Yeah, did one of them at one point go off on a story that went nowhere about an Australian man in Japan talking to a fake flying squirrel in a backpack about what toppings he likes on his pizza? I love that story.

01:07:53 Speaker_12
I don't think that's the last time we're gonna hear that story. No, I think about it a lot.

01:07:57 Speaker_12
me and my girlfriend talked about it afterwards how when we're on those kind of things guided tours or whatever we both do this where instead of getting invested in the information we're being told and all the new things we're learning we get invested in the tour guide and who they are as a person and we start thinking about like their life is like what their life is like how they got into all this yeah if they're enjoying this what they think of the group yeah all that sort of stuff so when that guy did the

01:08:25 Speaker_12
the little skit with the flying squirrel in the backpack and was talking to it and saying he wants to know what toppings I have on my pizza and told it I like pineapple oh he doesn't like he won't come out the bag because I have pineapple on my pizza I was like this is an interesting fella yeah I want to know more about this guy

01:08:41 Speaker_14
I had a Uber driver yesterday who put on Waze, you know that app that tells you where to go, but he had one of the novelty voices on it.

01:08:50 Speaker_14
I was playing really loudly, I don't know what it was, but the voice is a lady's voice that started by saying, hello Scorpio, we are about to undertake a long and arduous journey. We will be changed by the end of this.

01:09:05 Speaker_14
And it'd be like, left, take the next left, riches lie down that path. Oh wow. But he's not reacting to it.

01:09:12 Speaker_14
He's just following the directions and me and Charlie are sat in the back just fucking killing ourselves laughing, texting each other, going, hello Scorpio.

01:09:21 Speaker_13
He's used to it. Yeah.

01:09:23 Speaker_14
Yeah, but it's like it was like a sexy voice as well. It was like this has been very intimate. It's kept saying that At the end we reach his destination. Oh, I don't know.

01:09:33 Speaker_14
I think we got out by then, but he's getting off with it by the end of it He's also he was a great guy as well as we went under a tunnel and the bike went past the delivery bike went past it He lost it laughing

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Really? He was going, oh, the person is waiting for their food and they're under the water. He's calling them up going, do you want some fish?

01:09:52 Speaker_11
We've got to get this guy on the podcast. We've got to get him on. Do you want any fish? He kept saying. We talked to him about delivery. I know you ordered a burger, but I got you some fish because I went under the water to get it.

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He was laughing so much. I like it.

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That is funny to imagine that that's what happens.

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Absolutely. My name is James Acaston. See you next week. See you next week.

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