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Episode: Ep 266: Ella Purnell

Ep 266: Ella Purnell

Author: Plosive
Duration: 01:15:11

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‘Fallout’ and ‘Yellowjackets’ star Ella Purnell plays the Off Menu game this week. It’s always the quiet ones… Ella Purnell stars in Sky Original ‘Sweetpea’ which is available on Sky and the streaming service NOW from 10 October. Follow Ella on Instagram @ella_purnell Recorded and edited by Ben Williams for

Plosive.Artwork by Paul Gilbey (photography and design).Follow Off Menu on Twitter and Instagram: @offmenuofficial.And go to our website www.offmenupodcast.co.uk for a list of restaurants recommended on the show.Watch Ed and James's YouTube series 'Just Puddings'. Watch here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Summary

In this episode of 'Off Menu', hosts Ed Gamble and James Acaster invite actress Ella Purnell, noted for her roles in 'Fallout' and 'Yellowjackets', to discuss her culinary favorites while playfully engaging in the Off Menu game. Ella shares her menu selections, including warm sourdough with Marmite butter, pork soup dumplings, a nostalgic burger from 'Spy Kids', a side salad, and doughnuts from Adventure Island. The conversation also touches on her upcoming Sky Original series 'Sweetpea', where she portrays a morally complex character, adding depth to her insights on food and personal experiences shaped by childhood memories.

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00:01:56 Speaker_13
Welcome to the off-menu podcast. Taking the Mars ice cream of conversation. And eating that. Oh, I love one of them. And then having another one of humour. Because I can only have... I can't have one in a row, James. I need two in a row. That's a gamble.

00:02:11 Speaker_13
You must like a Mars ice cream.

00:02:13 Speaker_14
Yeah, it's just, you know, I think everyone always, it's always a bit disappointing when you just choose something that's just one thing and you eat it. Yeah.

00:02:22 Speaker_14
For the beginning, you know, I mean, it's good that you added another Mars ice cream, I guess.

00:02:26 Speaker_13
Yeah. But, you know. I thought you were going to say it's disappointing when you want a Mars ice cream and all they have in the shop is a Snickers ice cream, which is still nice, but it's not as good as a Mars ice cream.

00:02:34 Speaker_13
The nuts get in the way of the caramel. And I like nuts. Of humour.

00:02:39 Speaker_14
That's a gamble, my name is James A. Cassett. Together we own a dream restaurant. Every single week we invite in a guest and ask them their favourite ever starter, main course, dessert, side dish and drink. Not in that order.

00:02:48 Speaker_14
And this week our guest is... Ella Purnell!

00:02:52 Speaker_13
Ella Purnell is a wonderful actor, James. She's in Fallout, which is one of my favourite TV shows of the last year, I'd say. It's absolutely incredible. She's in Yellow Jackets, which I also love. and she's in a brand new show called Sweet Pea.

00:03:06 Speaker_13
Yes, it's out tomorrow, as of when this is coming out. Yeah, it's out on October 10th. Yes.

00:03:12 Speaker_13
So it will be, it will be out probably, if you're listening to this on the day that it comes out, it's out tomorrow, but most of you will probably hear this after, so it is out now. It is out now. On Sky and now. And I'll play the serial killer.

00:03:24 Speaker_13
It's very exciting. Yes, it looks really cool. I'm very excited to see Sweet Pea.

00:03:28 Speaker_14
We'll have a little chat about that. And look, you know, here's the crazy thing. Yellow jackets. I thought Ella was American. Yeah, this always blows your mind, doesn't it, acting?

00:03:38 Speaker_13
It's amazing the accents she does in that.

00:03:40 Speaker_15
Mm-hmm.

00:03:41 Speaker_13
Proper just thought that's an American person. Could you not ask her about doing accents? Because I feel like you ask every actor who does accents about accents. And then what they do is they say, can you do accents?

00:03:53 Speaker_13
And then you go, no, and you get really shy. And then I have to say, yes, you can do Shrek. And then you have to do Shrek. Okay, well, I won't ask about accents because I don't want to do Shrek. Will you do Shrek quickly now?

00:04:01 Speaker_12
Don't care! I will never do suck for you!

00:04:04 Speaker_13
Good, that's out the way. But if Ella says a secret ingredient on which we have pre-agreed, she will be kicked out of the dream restaurant. And the secret ingredient this week is... Nuka... Nuka Cola! Nuka Cola. That's from Fallout. That's from Fallout.

00:04:18 Speaker_13
That's a brand of soft drink. Ed loves it.

00:04:20 Speaker_14
Yeah. You would drink Nuka Cola, wouldn't you? I'd drink Nuka Cola in a heartbeat. What do you think it tastes like? Like cola, just normal cola.

00:04:26 Speaker_13
Really?

00:04:27 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah.

00:04:27 Speaker_13
I think it's got some spicy, like, radiation in it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think they'd want the spicy radiation though, because they all live in underground communities to keep away from the radiation.

00:04:39 Speaker_13
Yeah, but then you want a little bit of it just to keep life exciting in your cola. Yeah, drinking my cola, wearing my pip, boy.

00:04:47 Speaker_14
So yeah, we will kick Elle out.

00:04:52 Speaker_13
No.

00:04:53 Speaker_14
Yes! Yeah. Um, yeah, but... Well, the listener can't see, but Ed's just like... I'm proud of myself. Got the dopiest smile on his face, Ed. He's really smiling, eyes half-open, just looking around. Oh, I'm sleepy as well. It's really early in the morning.

00:05:06 Speaker_14
Yeah, it's quite sleepy. But yes, if Ella says Nuka-Cola, we'll have to kick her out of the drink restaurant. Hopefully she won't.

00:05:12 Speaker_13
We'll get to hear her full menu. Yes. This is the off-menu menu of Ella Purnell. Welcome, Ella, to the Dream Restaurant.

00:05:27 Speaker_14
Welcome, Ella Purnell, to the Dream Restaurant. We've been expecting you for some time.

00:05:31 Speaker_03
I'm so excited to be here.

00:05:32 Speaker_13
Surprised?

00:05:32 Speaker_14
Do you feel surprised?

00:05:33 Speaker_03
I feel surprised. Thank you so much.

00:05:35 Speaker_13
For the listener, Ella said that she'd not heard the podcast before because you wanted to be surprised. I wanted to be surprised. And are you surprised right up top by that huge introduction?

00:05:43 Speaker_04
Yeah, I'm shocked. I'm appalled, actually. I'm shocked and appalled.

00:05:46 Speaker_14
There's a fine line between surprised and appalled and I've crossed over into it.

00:05:50 Speaker_03
Already? What, 30 seconds in?

00:05:52 Speaker_14
I do that for everyone just so you know. It wasn't just because you said I want to be surprised. I was like, I'll give you a surprise. And then I did that stupid thing.

00:05:58 Speaker_04
Why did you tell me that? Now I don't feel special anymore.

00:06:01 Speaker_14
I'll do something later on. It was louder than normal. It was louder than normal. Yeah, because I was trying to surprise you because I knew that's what you wanted. Yeah, so I really bought it.

00:06:10 Speaker_04
And that's because I'm a genie.

00:06:11 Speaker_14
Yeah, he's a genie. He's a genie in this. I'm a genie in this.

00:06:14 Speaker_04
In this? You're a genie in this?

00:06:15 Speaker_14
Yeah, I'm a genie in this. Because I can get you food from anywhere for your dream meal. Because otherwise the whole podcast would fall apart.

00:06:24 Speaker_04
Right, of course, that makes sense.

00:06:26 Speaker_13
So is that a surprise that he's a genie?

00:06:28 Speaker_04
Well, I saw the lamp when I walked in here, so I assumed there'd be some sort of genie involved in the menu.

00:06:35 Speaker_13
And I'm just realising now the lamp does ruin the surprise, Benita, so we shouldn't really have the lamp in here. How am I meant to appear?

00:06:41 Speaker_04
Unless I rub the magic lamp three times. Come on, guys.

00:06:43 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:06:44 Speaker_04
Come on. These are basic genie rules.

00:06:46 Speaker_14
We never actually have anyone rub the lamp. So for some reason, I'm just always, just whenever I like, just popping out the lamp.

00:06:52 Speaker_02
Oh, OK.

00:06:53 Speaker_14
So we've kind of changed. But then when we did the live shows, we had a giant lamp on stage and the guests did have to rub the lamp before.

00:06:59 Speaker_04
Right.

00:07:00 Speaker_14
But that's because everyone could see us.

00:07:02 Speaker_04
Right, it kind of does ruin that. Yeah, you should have one of those floors where you pop out the floor.

00:07:06 Speaker_14
Yeah, we should do that.

00:07:07 Speaker_04
There's probably a technical name for those.

00:07:09 Speaker_13
No, I think it's called the floors where you pop out the floor.

00:07:11 Speaker_14
I think so too. If someone offered you a play and was like, Ella, we need you in this play, but you got to pop out the floor, would you do it?

00:07:19 Speaker_14
But how many times would they have to say you're going to pop out the floor during the play for you to say no?

00:07:23 Speaker_04
Oh, that's a really good question. Also very oddly specific.

00:07:27 Speaker_13
And weirdly phrased.

00:07:29 Speaker_04
I don't know. I've never done it, so I don't know how much I'd like it. I think I'd quite like to... It's like, I love roller coasters. I'm thinking of it like a roller coaster. It's kind of like the opposite of the drop. It's the lift.

00:07:39 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:07:40 Speaker_04
Well, I guess you do have to go up to come down, don't you? Oh, that's very deep. So deep.

00:07:44 Speaker_14
What the hell? It's ten past nine in the morning, guys.

00:07:46 Speaker_04
That was so profound.

00:07:48 Speaker_14
People listening to this won't know. Ten past nine. I'd rather just drop out.

00:07:53 Speaker_04
Gosh, I surprised myself with that. I'd like to do it quite a few times. I'd actually say I won't do the play unless I can do it at least 10 times.

00:07:59 Speaker_13
Well, every entrance of your character needs to be from the floor. Yes, at least.

00:08:03 Speaker_04
That would be kind of amazing.

00:08:04 Speaker_14
Would you want them spread out, though?

00:08:05 Speaker_04
Because what if they were like... Oh, yeah, definitely spread out.

00:08:08 Speaker_14
Yeah, if not 10 in 10 minutes.

00:08:09 Speaker_04
Oh, God, no. No, because... Who's supposed to pop it out the floor?

00:08:15 Speaker_13
How would you feel about dropping through the floor, though?

00:08:19 Speaker_04
Hmm, another good question. Is that safe?

00:08:20 Speaker_13
Yeah, it'll be safe.

00:08:21 Speaker_04
Is it like the floor just disappears and I just fall through it?

00:08:24 Speaker_13
Yeah, like it's a trapdoor, you just go. Oh, okay.

00:08:28 Speaker_04
Now, I think I'd like that less because I'm quite accident prone. So like one, the odds of me hurting myself, if I'm doing it 10 times, I'd say like 50%, I'd say quite high.

00:08:37 Speaker_04
If I'm doing it two times, it's still 50%, but it's like less injuries, you know what I mean?

00:08:42 Speaker_13
And it's every night, it's a play.

00:08:43 Speaker_04
It's every night. It's a lot of injuries and a run.

00:08:45 Speaker_13
It's twice on a Saturday, yeah.

00:08:46 Speaker_04
How long's the run, you know?

00:08:47 Speaker_13
Oh, months I think. Oh, it's really successful. Months?

00:08:50 Speaker_14
Months, yeah. Months long. Yeah, yeah. People love it.

00:08:52 Speaker_04
It does really well. I'm out, you've lost me.

00:08:54 Speaker_14
That bit in Prestige where he removes, because he drops through the floor as part of his act, one of the magicians does.

00:09:01 Speaker_04
Oh, that's right.

00:09:01 Speaker_14
And the other magician sabotages him by removing the crash man. So he goes, I would just think that every night. I'd go, what if another magician is sabotaging me? Do you know what I mean?

00:09:11 Speaker_14
But you're a genie, you can kind of... Genies and magicians, that's rough rivalry, that's worse than... Oh, it's a rivalry?

00:09:18 Speaker_04
Genies and magicians? Yeah!

00:09:19 Speaker_14
Surely genies win every time? Yeah, yeah.

00:09:21 Speaker_04
Genie trumps magician?

00:09:22 Speaker_14
Genie trumps magician. You'd think so, right.

00:09:24 Speaker_04
That makes sense, that feels right.

00:09:25 Speaker_14
Yeah, but then magicians, we're their biggest threat because we can take all their business, we can do any magic trick.

00:09:30 Speaker_04
I mean, they're kind of impostors, actually, in your industry.

00:09:33 Speaker_14
Yeah, they are. They're fake genies. Yeah.

00:09:35 Speaker_04
Yeah.

00:09:35 Speaker_14
They are fake genies, and that's what we call them, and I thank both of you for recognising that.

00:09:40 Speaker_14
We're talking about you acting in plays, but come on sweet peas coming out tomorrow tomorrow It's looking at Benito there because he uh, he was very confusing wasn't he before Before we started I think you're doing great Benito.

00:09:54 Speaker_14
Yeah, but he was confusing before we started recording a wee bit Yeah, as we know today is the 9th of October and tomorrow the show comes out sweet pea the show Yeah, it's always the quiet ones. It is. That's the tagline.

00:10:06 Speaker_14
What can you tell people about sweet pea?

00:10:08 Speaker_04
What can I tell people? Okay, so Sweet Pea, it's a show about a quiet young woman. Well, she's got a lot to say, it's just no one's listening.

00:10:18 Speaker_14
Played by anyone we know?

00:10:20 Speaker_04
You may have heard of her. Her name's Ella. She's great. Yes. Fantastic.

00:10:25 Speaker_13
She comes up through the floor a lot.

00:10:26 Speaker_04
Quite clumsy about accident prone. It's funny because every time she just appears in the scene, we don't know where she comes from, she just pops up through the floor.

00:10:34 Speaker_04
No, Rhiannon is very quiet, she's sort of overlooked, very invisible, and then she discovers this intoxicatingly addictive taste for murder. Can you tell I've been doing loads of press and this is my, like, stock, my kind of cork brush?

00:10:45 Speaker_12
Make her feel special!

00:10:47 Speaker_04
Sorry, I don't know... Surprise us, Ella! Remember how much I let you down when I told you I do the Janey thing every time?

00:10:55 Speaker_14
Yeah, sorry.

00:10:56 Speaker_04
Sorry. She, uh, she, she kills people and it's, um, it's, she likes it. Ooh, that sounded not great. Uh, well, let me go again.

00:11:02 Speaker_13
Actually, that's selling the show to me. She kills people and she likes it. She kills people and she likes it.

00:11:06 Speaker_14
To be honest, that's a good tagline as well. It's always the quiet ones, but it could have just been, she kills people and she likes it. And I would watch that.

00:11:13 Speaker_04
You know, we were going between the two and it was, it was, it was a toss up. It's very close.

00:11:17 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:11:17 Speaker_04
We ended up with, it rolls off the tongue quicker, easier.

00:11:22 Speaker_14
How do you play someone who, because like in some things, like at the start someone already is a serial killer, but how do you play someone who discovers they like it and make that believable?

00:11:33 Speaker_04
Actually, good questions. I found that quite difficult, but it ended up being really necessary, I think, because we're trying to do female Dexter, right? We're trying to get the audience to feel conflicted.

00:11:43 Speaker_04
You know, the whole first episode is about you relating to this character. People don't see her. She has to kind of smile through all of these really shitty things that happen to her. And it's relatable, I hope.

00:11:54 Speaker_04
And people should be able to relate to her emotions, but not necessarily her actions. Don't kill people. That's the message I would like to spread. It's sort of, I have, it's a disclaimer. I've got to get it in every interview. Don't kill people.

00:12:07 Speaker_04
So it's kind of necessary, I think, for you to see, follow her journey. And in the end, you're kind of slightly rooting for her. You want her to stand up for herself. Maybe not that way. Maybe other ways.

00:12:18 Speaker_14
It's fun, isn't it? Because, like, you know, with stuff like that with Dexter, you know, you're like, well, obviously, I don't think he should be murdering people.

00:12:28 Speaker_04
Obviously.

00:12:28 Speaker_14
But, you know, it's a TV show, it represents other things. And he's murdering bad guys.

00:12:33 Speaker_04
Exactly. Exactly. Well, that is interesting, because she kind of comes up with his moral codes throughout the show, where she's like, right, I've, I've now, I've, you know, I've killed someone. I need to, I need to kind of justify this.

00:12:43 Speaker_04
So she decides, well, okay, good people deserve to live and bad people deserve to die. And she's kind of playing God in this, in this way. And then that's, that's the progression of the series is that moral code sort of blows up in her face.

00:12:54 Speaker_13
I'll tell you my issue with Dexter briefly while we're on it. Yes. I never liked that guy.

00:13:00 Speaker_04
Interesting! I think you're really in the minority there.

00:13:03 Speaker_13
I don't like him. I don't like him. And not just because of the murders. Before the show even starts, the opening credits, he eats his breakfast really weirdly. He flosses weird. Do you remember the opening credits?

00:13:13 Speaker_03
I do! I do!

00:13:14 Speaker_13
Okay, well, how's about this for the opening credits? He cooks some bacon, eats it, then cooks an egg and eats it. Yeah. He doesn't have them together.

00:13:22 Speaker_04
I just put that down to like fancy editing. But you're right. It's the order that he does it. But what if he thought, I'll have a light breakfast and then he realised I'm still hungry. And he gets up and cooks the rest of it.

00:13:34 Speaker_13
He does it with juice as well though. He doesn't eat it all on the same plate at the same time. He makes the juice, makes the coffee. So that, immediately I'm going, there's something up with this guy.

00:13:43 Speaker_14
And they chose that as the opening credits. It's not just a... They're choosing that to show who this guy is. It's not just a one-off. You thought, oh actually I want more than that.

00:13:51 Speaker_04
What does that say about someone?

00:13:53 Speaker_14
It says that, show you what, he's a psychopath.

00:13:56 Speaker_04
This guy probably kills people. To be fair, if I was hanging out with someone and they sat down, ate their bacon, got back up, cooked an egg, sat down, I'd be like, this person kills people. I've got to go home.

00:14:06 Speaker_14
Something's going on here.

00:14:08 Speaker_04
Yeah, yeah.

00:14:09 Speaker_14
Are you much of a foodie?

00:14:10 Speaker_04
I do kill people. Do you? Am I much of a murderer?

00:14:13 Speaker_14
Imagine if this was just a sting for the FBI.

00:14:16 Speaker_04
Sorry, I've now actually forgotten your original question because I was thinking so much about what you didn't say.

00:14:19 Speaker_14
Killing people. Yeah, yeah. Do you like food like Dexter likes food?

00:14:23 Speaker_04
Yeah, but I do cook it mostly all in one go. I do love food. I'm a big foodie. I love food. That's why I'm so excited about this podcast. But I thought I'd actually get food.

00:14:33 Speaker_13
Oh no, a lot of people make that mistake. No, no, no, we don't give anyone food. What we do is we make people talk about food until they're really, really hungry. So you'd be like shaking by the end.

00:14:44 Speaker_04
And you always do it like first thing in the morning before anyone's had any breakfast.

00:14:48 Speaker_14
So we're all psyched about it. But you'll enjoy the meal that you have after this way more than you would have if you were eating on a podcast.

00:14:57 Speaker_02
That's actually true.

00:14:58 Speaker_14
So we have made your meal for the day better by talking about food first and then you go and do that.

00:15:02 Speaker_03
You're a glass half full kind of guy.

00:15:03 Speaker_14
I see what you're doing. Well, I'm getting paid.

00:15:09 Speaker_13
The rest of the time, God no. You couldn't be more wrong, Allah.

00:15:11 Speaker_14
You don't want to talk to me outside of this. I'll try and like put a positive spin on the podcast while I'm on it.

00:15:19 Speaker_04
I appreciate that.

00:15:20 Speaker_14
Yeah, when that light's red, I'm a very upbeat guy. First of all, we always start with still or sparkling water.

00:15:27 Speaker_04
Still, I have a theory. So sparkling water, we need to call it something else because it doesn't taste anything like water. Sparkling water should taste like, it should taste neutral, just fizzy. And sparkling water doesn't taste neutral.

00:15:39 Speaker_04
It tastes bitter and sour and like something else. It's like a unflavored soda. I know I've just described sparkling water. It's sour. I hate it. I really don't like it. And it really bothers me that it's called sparkling water.

00:15:52 Speaker_04
It should be called something else. It should have its own name. We should come up with a name now then.

00:15:56 Speaker_14
Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So for the listeners now 919 Why are you doing time checks like we're on live radio We were named for sparkling water, I want people to know what pressure we're under. Ella was like spouting philosophy earlier.

00:16:13 Speaker_04
I really was, I came in so hot about all my best ideas.

00:16:15 Speaker_14
I think you're going to be okay, but Ed and I aren't fine on all cylinders. We've got to come up with a new name for sparkling water at 9.19 in the morning.

00:16:23 Speaker_04
It should sound how it feels.

00:16:25 Speaker_13
So sour is the word you've used a few times.

00:16:27 Speaker_04
Yeah, it's bitter.

00:16:30 Speaker_13
Bits of sour bubbles.

00:16:31 Speaker_04
People can't see me but I just made it.

00:16:34 Speaker_14
Yeah, I mean that'd be, I don't know if I could pronounce that. Yeah, how do you spell that? Every time, do you want still or... Less people would be asking for that.

00:16:45 Speaker_04
It's also slightly off-putting. If the waiter offered me that, I'd look at him and say, no, thank you.

00:16:51 Speaker_14
Yeah, it would remind you of like, oh, that's how it's going to feel actually. So I'd rather just have the still water. And still or tap? If you go into places, are you a tap person?

00:17:02 Speaker_04
I don't really care. About the difference?

00:17:07 Speaker_13
It feels like they're trying to rip you off as well.

00:17:08 Speaker_04
It does. They are.

00:17:09 Speaker_13
When they say still or sparkling water, you know there's a third option.

00:17:12 Speaker_04
You know.

00:17:13 Speaker_13
But no one's saying it.

00:17:13 Speaker_04
Why do they ever tell you?

00:17:14 Speaker_13
Yeah, they should say still, sparkling or tap.

00:17:16 Speaker_04
They shouldn't assume that you know that they have a tap. They may not have a tap.

00:17:19 Speaker_13
That's true. I wouldn't go to a restaurant that didn't have a tap. That would be a real suspicious thing to do.

00:17:25 Speaker_04
But you wouldn't know. You wouldn't know.

00:17:26 Speaker_13
How would you know yet? Okay, well, I'd go in and go, first of all, do you have a tap? And then I'll eat your food if you've got a tap.

00:17:32 Speaker_04
Hi, can I see a menu? And also, do you have a tap?

00:17:35 Speaker_13
Can I see a menu and your tap? Take me back there and show me you've got a tap, otherwise it's weird. I would like to see the tap.

00:17:40 Speaker_14
I think if you are ordering tap water, it would be good to see the tap.

00:17:45 Speaker_04
Are you going to judge the restaurant on the cleanliness of their tap? No, you're right, there's a massive lime scale build up on that tap. Oh God, I wouldn't want to eat there. I wouldn't want the tap water, that's for sure. No, then I'd get still.

00:17:56 Speaker_04
Yeah, maybe that's the standard we need to be setting.

00:18:02 Speaker_14
Can you think of like, so if you are having tap water and this is your dream meal, is there a tap that you've seen in your life that you'd like, that's the tap I would like to come from?

00:18:12 Speaker_13
It's honestly the first time we've ever asked this. Is it? I was going to say, it's usually hard.

00:18:16 Speaker_04
We've done over 200 of these. That's a great question. I haven't seen that many cool taps in my life, to be honest.

00:18:23 Speaker_14
Come on, come off of it.

00:18:23 Speaker_04
What, have you seen a lot of cool taps?

00:18:24 Speaker_14
Ella, you're a big star. Yeah.

00:18:26 Speaker_04
I am a big star. Are you telling me they don't have good taps? Guys, all taps kind of look the same.

00:18:35 Speaker_11
Are you joking?

00:18:36 Speaker_04
Are you high as a kite?

00:18:38 Speaker_11
Do you want a separate hot and cold tap or a mixer tap?

00:18:41 Speaker_04
Oh no, I hate when they do it separately. Because then when I'm trying to wash my face in warm water, it's hot, cold, hot, cold, hot, cold, I can't. It's too stressful.

00:18:49 Speaker_04
And then a berm of it, and then it's too cold, and then you end up just doing cold, and then you're cold, and it's a very stressful experience. I don't want to have to hold my hands separately and then mix them together.

00:18:58 Speaker_04
Trying to mix hot and cold water in a bowl hand is really uncomfortable. I clearly have a lot of, I didn't realise I had so strong feelings about taps. But no, that really does bother me, actually.

00:19:08 Speaker_14
You are being surprised in this podcast, but by your own opinion.

00:19:11 Speaker_04
I didn't know I had so many.

00:19:13 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:19:14 Speaker_04
Wow. Thank you so much.

00:19:16 Speaker_14
So you would like a mix of tap. I like a mix of tap. But for a drink, surely, you don't want a mix of tap. Oh no. No, but I wouldn't turn the hot. I'm going to say that's unfair of you.

00:19:25 Speaker_14
Because you led Ella down this path of choosing the mixer tap, and now you've gone and fucking got me.

00:19:29 Speaker_04
I feel tricked. You have tricked me.

00:19:31 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah, it's a gotcha interview. Sorry Ella, you've been gotcha'd.

00:19:34 Speaker_04
But when it's one tap, you just turn the cold bit on. I wouldn't turn the hot and the cold if I was drinking water.

00:19:39 Speaker_13
No one wants to drink warm water.

00:19:41 Speaker_04
Does anybody want to drink warm water?

00:19:42 Speaker_13
I bet there are people. Some people will have a mug of warm water in the morning with like a slice of lemon in it.

00:19:48 Speaker_03
Okay.

00:19:50 Speaker_13
Okay.

00:19:51 Speaker_03
Okay.

00:19:52 Speaker_14
POP DOBS OR BREAD! POP DOBS OR BREAD ELLA PURNELL! POP DOBS OR BREAD!

00:19:55 Speaker_04
Bread, please.

00:19:56 Speaker_15
Yeah.

00:19:57 Speaker_04
Bread, please. Can I get specific?

00:19:59 Speaker_15
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay.

00:20:00 Speaker_04
Hair? With butter? My little butter?

00:20:03 Speaker_14
Of course.

00:20:03 Speaker_04
Okay, Marmite butter.

00:20:05 Speaker_14
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

00:20:07 Speaker_04
Oh, fantastic. I love this restaurant. It's great. Yeah. I love Marmite and I love butter and I like them together. Mix them together.

00:20:15 Speaker_14
Have you had Marmite butter? I have.

00:20:17 Speaker_04
It's a place in Wales called, I'm going to say Heaney's or Healey's. Heaney's, definitely an N. Heaney's. And they do Marmite butter with sourdough and it's unbelievable.

00:20:26 Speaker_04
I actually once asked them for three extra bits of Marmite butter and I put them in a to-go box and they I don't know why they looked at me like that was unusual, because I feel like a lot of people must do that.

00:20:35 Speaker_04
They're known for their marmite butter. And he looked at me like I'd offended his ancestors, or like I'd done something deeply, deeply wrong.

00:20:41 Speaker_13
Maybe they're used to people enjoying the marmite butter, but they're not used to people being like, package them up like they were doing shopping.

00:20:47 Speaker_04
But I feel like, yeah, fair, but also not fair because you're going to be known for it. You should really be known for it.

00:20:56 Speaker_14
It's not like you can get it anywhere else. It's not like you're like, oh, that was great. I'll get some Marmite butter on the way home.

00:21:01 Speaker_04
It's not like I can just go home and make it myself and mix a bit of Marmite and butter together. It would be ridiculous.

00:21:05 Speaker_14
You can't do that. I could never do that. You wouldn't get the ratios right.

00:21:07 Speaker_04
It wouldn't be right. It wouldn't be right.

00:21:08 Speaker_14
And is it sourdough you're having? I think you could do that.

00:21:10 Speaker_04
Yeah, I think so. What?

00:21:11 Speaker_14
I think you could give that a go. No, you couldn't. No? Are you talking about? Maybe you could.

00:21:15 Speaker_04
I'm sensing some tension here, guys. Are we alright?

00:21:18 Speaker_14
I've had enough of it.

00:21:19 Speaker_04
Shall we take a quick break?

00:21:21 Speaker_14
I've had enough of it. It's been so many episodes of this.

00:21:26 Speaker_04
How many episodes have you done? How many, Benita? Too many. Too many. 200 many. He doesn't know.

00:21:31 Speaker_13
James doesn't know. He's got no idea. Over 200. Over 200, yeah. Over 200, this contrarian bastard. I'm just saying, I think you could mix marmite and butter together.

00:21:39 Speaker_15
I think you could.

00:21:42 Speaker_13
It wouldn't be the same experience, sure, but maybe they put something extra in there.

00:21:46 Speaker_04
What if it is? What if it is?

00:21:48 Speaker_13
That's the end of their business, I guess.

00:21:50 Speaker_04
Sorry, I really do like them. I'm so, so sorry. Just dragged them through the mud.

00:21:55 Speaker_14
Shouldn't have looked at you like that. That's what they get. Warm sourdough? Yeah. With the marmite butter from Heaney's?

00:22:03 Speaker_04
Yeah. And then you just, you don't spread it with a knife. You just, you take the bread and you use the bread as an edible spoon and you just dip it. And also you get in there fast before anyone else can have any.

00:22:15 Speaker_04
I've got three younger brothers, so I learned to eat very quickly and a lot. So it's embarrassing when I go out for dinner with people because they don't get to eat because I've eaten it all for them.

00:22:25 Speaker_13
Yeah. Because you're just always aware that someone else could have it first.

00:22:28 Speaker_04
Yeah. Elbows up.

00:22:29 Speaker_13
Yeah. Elbows up.

00:22:31 Speaker_04
Ready to throw hands.

00:22:32 Speaker_13
It's like your brothers are there all the time.

00:22:34 Speaker_04
They are. They're there all the time. All the time. It's really hard.

00:22:38 Speaker_13
People having dinner with you going, Ella, there's three boys standing behind you.

00:22:43 Speaker_14
For the listener, there are three boys in the studio now. It's 9.26. And Ella's got three boys standing behind her. Your dream starter?

00:22:56 Speaker_04
My dream starter? I'm going to go for soup dumplings, because I love them, but specifically from a place in New York called Zhou Shanghai. And there's a very specific way you have to eat them as instructed by me, and I get to watch you eat them.

00:23:08 Speaker_04
We're eating together. I'm not eating alone. It's just part of the soup dumpling experience is the eating of the soup dumplings.

00:23:16 Speaker_13
Yes, I would say that goes for all food.

00:23:19 Speaker_04
That may actually be accurate. Now who's being profound? Now who's self-aware? Look at us all just slowly achieving enlightenment. Look at that.

00:23:31 Speaker_12
What an attitude. Gorgeous. Sorry. No, don't be sorry. You're right. It's a true part of the experience of the food is eating the food. Yes, I suppose so. Just fucking destroy it.

00:23:42 Speaker_04
No, but specifically with this, it's an interactive experience.

00:23:45 Speaker_13
Yes, I do know what you mean. I was being facetious.

00:23:47 Speaker_04
No, I do agree with you. I care a lot about mouthfeel of a food. It can't be too squishy or too crunchy. It has to be the perfect mouthfeel. But this is not so much about... I'd actually say the mouthfeel of a soup dumpling is quite bad.

00:24:01 Speaker_04
but the experience of watching someone eat it, and the sound effects, it's just very good, it's all very good.

00:24:07 Speaker_13
Take us through the technique, how do you want people to eat it?

00:24:11 Speaker_04
You have to bite the tip off, and then drink the soup out the dumpling, out the spoon.

00:24:15 Speaker_14
Oh, I did not expect this.

00:24:17 Speaker_04
And then, yeah. No, no, this isn't dumplings in soup, this is soup in dumplings.

00:24:21 Speaker_14
Yes, I know it's soup in dumplings, but I thought, so here's me with a soup dumpling.

00:24:24 Speaker_04
Right.

00:24:25 Speaker_14
Just pop it in.

00:24:25 Speaker_03
No.

00:24:26 Speaker_14
Pop it in whole. Wrong. Let it pop. Let the soup flow over my tongue. Burn your mouth. Huh? Burn your mouth.

00:24:34 Speaker_13
No, no, no.

00:24:35 Speaker_04
That's the thing, you burn your mouth. You don't have a feeling in your mouth then. It's not the first time he's been accused of this.

00:24:43 Speaker_14
You don't have a feeling in your mouth. Yeah, yeah. Every time. Kiss my girlfriend, she says that to me. You have no feeling in your mouth. Get out of my sight. I have feeling in my mouth.

00:24:54 Speaker_14
Although once, Ed and I went for a meal and everything was like Szechuan pepper stuff. So it numbed up your tongue. And then we had soup dumplings and it goes over the tongue.

00:25:05 Speaker_14
So I didn't, I guess on that occasion, I didn't have feeling in my mouth, but it was pretty great.

00:25:10 Speaker_04
I'm going to try that. That's really inspired me.

00:25:13 Speaker_13
I do completely agree with you. That's how I eat soup dumplings. Yes. Bite a little bit off. So there's a hole so some steam can come out. So it cools down and then you drink some of the soup.

00:25:21 Speaker_04
Correct.

00:25:22 Speaker_13
You get a taste of the soup and then the dumpling. Correct.

00:25:23 Speaker_04
It's like a two course meal. Do you bite the top or the side?

00:25:27 Speaker_13
I think I bite the top.

00:25:28 Speaker_04
Right.

00:25:29 Speaker_13
Because I don't want it spilling out the side.

00:25:30 Speaker_04
The nipple.

00:25:31 Speaker_13
Yeah, the nipple. I bite the nipple. But if you put it on the soup. It's 9.30 in the morning. You put it on the spoon. And then bite the nipple.

00:25:39 Speaker_03
And then you bite the nipple. And then you drink the soup.

00:25:42 Speaker_13
And then you eat the... Yeah.

00:25:43 Speaker_03
It's good. It's good.

00:25:44 Speaker_13
I guess if we're extending the analogy. No.

00:25:48 Speaker_03
Okay. No, we found the line. Yeah, yeah. We found it.

00:25:51 Speaker_13
I checked with James and no. Yeah, he made eye contact with me. That was enough. I don't like that. I'm going to talk to HR after this.

00:25:58 Speaker_03
Do you have an HR department?

00:26:00 Speaker_14
Yeah, called Benito! Is it Benito, U, HR? It's called Benito and he does not listen.

00:26:06 Speaker_03
You seem busy.

00:26:07 Speaker_14
He doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. We go and slack each other off to him and he just ignores us both.

00:26:13 Speaker_04
Therapist as well then. Therapist, HR.

00:26:15 Speaker_14
But bad at all of it. Busy, aren't you Ben? Very busy. The worst in the biz. I can't imagine what you're talking about with this soup dumpling.

00:26:24 Speaker_14
I can't imagine how you're making it work, because to me, it's so wobbly that you couldn't tip it and have a drink out of it, because it would just all splat all over you.

00:26:36 Speaker_04
And that's part of the experience, is that if you bite the nipple and not the side, chances are you're going to spill it, because you've got to tip your head back so far. So you're biting the side? Well, it depends.

00:26:50 Speaker_04
It depends on how it's made, because I had one quite recently. By recently, I mean yesterday. No, no. What day is it? Two days ago. And I bit the top and it was too much. What is it? Dough? Bread? What is it made of? Yeah, dough, I guess.

00:27:03 Speaker_04
I speak, I said, what is it made of? It's like I've never spoken English before. What is made of?

00:27:08 Speaker_13
What is dumpling?

00:27:09 Speaker_04
What is dumpling?

00:27:10 Speaker_13
Yeah, I know, because that's where they pinch at the top when they make it.

00:27:12 Speaker_04
So there's a bit more dough.

00:27:13 Speaker_13
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:15 Speaker_04
So it depends on the dumpling, but if you do that and you tilt it back, it does spill down you, and that's the soup dumpling experience.

00:27:21 Speaker_13
But if it's on the spoon, you're catching some of the soup in the spoon anyway, aren't you?

00:27:24 Speaker_04
Depends how big the spoon is.

00:27:26 Speaker_13
And how big the dumpling is.

00:27:27 Speaker_04
And how big the dumpling is.

00:27:28 Speaker_13
Have you seen the ones that are massive, that come with a straw stuck in them? What?

00:27:32 Speaker_03
What?

00:27:32 Speaker_13
I don't know where they do them, but I've seen them. It's a bit Instagrammy, but they do huge ones, stick a straw in it, and then you drink the soup out with the straw.

00:27:40 Speaker_04
That's a game changer. My mind is blown.

00:27:42 Speaker_13
I think that's disgusting.

00:27:43 Speaker_14
I don't think that tastes as nice as these little ones. No, because then you're basically just having a bowl of soup and then at the end you get like a bunch of pasta or whatever.

00:27:52 Speaker_12
I do see kind of what you mean actually.

00:27:55 Speaker_14
But it's not actually eating a soup dumpling is it? It's like... Well, what's the dumpling? It's dumpling. I thought you said bread earlier. You left that alone.

00:28:03 Speaker_04
No, I see. So I see. So then we're back to the next thing, because with the regular soup dumpling experience, you're doing soup, dumpling, soup, dumpling, soup, dumpling, soup. With this one, it's soup, soup, soup, soup, soup, soup, soup.

00:28:11 Speaker_15
Yeah.

00:28:12 Speaker_04
Big dumpling.

00:28:13 Speaker_15
Yeah. Yeah.

00:28:13 Speaker_04
And it's it's not quite the same. But I mean, how big is the dumpling? It's quite It's like when you see the clam chowder in a bread bowl. It's not for me.

00:28:26 Speaker_13
Because then with the clam chowder you're just left with so much bread afterwards.

00:28:29 Speaker_04
Wet bread.

00:28:30 Speaker_13
Yeah, wet bread. Yeah, no one wants that.

00:28:32 Speaker_04
No, I like my bread dry. With marmite butter on it. Buttery, yeah. That's wet! Or is that oily?

00:28:38 Speaker_14
Yeah, that's not wet.

00:28:39 Speaker_04
Glad we cleared that one up. What kind of soup is in the soup dumpling? Chicken, pork. I don't eat fish, so I never really go for like the shrimpy, prawny ones. Not for me.

00:28:54 Speaker_13
Yeah, normally pork, right? Pork. Yeah, like pork broth.

00:28:58 Speaker_14
Pork broth soup dumplings is what you would like? And you would like to watch us eat them as well?

00:29:04 Speaker_04
Mostly, yeah. It is part of the experience. I don't eat them on my own very often. I really just like introducing people to the experience. It's really fun. I love a game. I love an interactive food experience. I love watching people spill on themselves.

00:29:16 Speaker_04
I think it's hilarious.

00:29:17 Speaker_13
Interesting. Are you dipping the dumplings in anything, like the vinegar, soy mix with chili oil or anything?

00:29:22 Speaker_04
Yeah, I won't really dip it, but I will, because, you know, when they get stuck together, the soup dumplings, then they rip and then the soup falls out and then you've just got a dumpling, you haven't got, the soup part's gone.

00:29:30 Speaker_04
So I like to take the vinegar, smush it around, break the dumplings up, and then so that it's all, you know, it's all mixed up.

00:29:38 Speaker_13
But when you break the dumplings up, you're being very careful to not rip them. It's like surgery.

00:29:42 Speaker_04
It's like operations on that game.

00:29:44 Speaker_13
Yeah, it's another game. I love a game. Famously.

00:29:48 Speaker_04
Famously. As of right now, I love a game.

00:29:50 Speaker_13
What's your favourite game?

00:29:52 Speaker_04
Very good question. Very good. Top three. Twister. I really do love a game. Twister, guess who, but you have to ask the character traits. You can't, you know, ask them what they look like. It's got to be like, is your character having a brat summer?

00:30:03 Speaker_04
It's got to be like that.

00:30:05 Speaker_04
uh number three oh that's a tough one there's one called watch your mouth and you put this bit of plastic in your mouth and it holds your mouth and heart like this yeah and then you have to say things sorry i'm just realizing yeah you can't see me i am being perceived yeah we can see you uh i am indeed real and alive yeah and you have to say things to be able to guess what you're saying right those are my top three i'm obviously those first two twister and guess who they're classics how did you discover uh what watch your mouth

00:30:30 Speaker_04
People buy me games as gifts quite often. I get quite a lot of gifts, don't mean to brag. And I got given it and then we played it after having a couple drinks. It was really good.

00:30:40 Speaker_13
Have you ever combined watch your mouth with gesso? Or Twister. Or Twister, at the same time.

00:30:44 Speaker_04
Wait, no, but that's good, right? How have I not thought of this? This is so smart. It could be really good with Twister, right?

00:30:51 Speaker_04
Because you're saying left hand on green, but you're actually saying... And you don't know what they've said, so you've got to guess. Yeah.

00:30:59 Speaker_13
Who's going with that colour? Yeah, exactly.

00:31:02 Speaker_04
Yeah, we know whenever wins on guess who because it's too hard, but it's really funny. So about again, it's about the experience It's not the way that you play it. No, I never would when when I play I never win.

00:31:10 Speaker_14
It's what I mean like that Okay. Yeah, so you play a quick game of guess who now with the just I'm just thinking of one of these two I Feel but you gotta play like your rules. You asked me I

00:31:22 Speaker_04
I really don't want to. Go on. I can't.

00:31:25 Speaker_14
Just go for it.

00:31:25 Speaker_04
Because my question is always really mean. I just, I can't do that to Ben.

00:31:28 Speaker_13
It's okay. So it's Ben. So we're going for Ben, are we? Hang on. Why can't you do that to Ben, but you don't mind doing it to me? Well, you've already been... Is it because you can think of mean things for Ben, but not for me?

00:31:42 Speaker_13
Or is it because you absolutely don't mind tearing me apart?

00:31:44 Speaker_04
Can it be both? They're not, they don't seem mutually exclusive.

00:31:47 Speaker_13
Yeah, they're not mutually exclusive.

00:31:48 Speaker_14
Right? Yeah, you've been sitting there being like, do you want a mix of tapioca? If you have that, you're a fucking idiot. So you deserve everything you get. Yeah, that's fair.

00:31:56 Speaker_13
Would you eat a soup dumpling with the watch your mouth thing in? How would you manage that?

00:32:01 Speaker_03
How are you coming up with these?

00:32:02 Speaker_04
How are you doing it?

00:32:04 Speaker_13
This is why I can't leave the podcast.

00:32:05 Speaker_04
He's the best in the biz. Truly, you're blowing my mind. No, you could physically not, I think. I don't think you could swallow. Can you swallow with your mouth open?

00:32:14 Speaker_14
God, that was... I think some people can. I saw it on Taskmaster. I just did it.

00:32:20 Speaker_03
Is that what you were doing when you took your sip of water?

00:32:22 Speaker_14
Benito looks disgusted. On Taskmaster, Benito, there was a task on Tessa Burch's series because she's the one who can do it.

00:32:29 Speaker_03
That was insane. You did it again.

00:32:31 Speaker_14
Yeah, I did it again. I just wanted to check it wasn't luck. For the listener, Ed is sat on his chair drinking water like a swan.

00:32:41 Speaker_03
Like a turtle that can't get back in its shell, but it's really trying.

00:32:45 Speaker_13
Yeah, that's good. That's a good clue for me on Guess Who. Does your character look like a turtle trying to get back into its shell? Yes, it's Ed Gamble.

00:32:53 Speaker_04
Very good. Do you get that a lot?

00:32:55 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah.

00:32:56 Speaker_12
I'm so sorry. That's alright. It's a good vibe.

00:32:58 Speaker_14
Just so you know, we're going to carry on with the menu, but the game of Guess Who is still open. I am thinking of one of these two. And if at any point you want to ask me a question about it, you can. Dream Main Course.

00:33:15 Speaker_14
We've got soup dumplings for the starter. Great starter, by the way.

00:33:18 Speaker_04
Oh, thank you.

00:33:19 Speaker_14
Really good.

00:33:19 Speaker_04
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Okay, I've got a good one. Have you ever seen Spy Kids?

00:33:23 Speaker_13
That's the first time anyone's gone into that.

00:33:30 Speaker_14
OK, I've got a good one. Have you ever seen Spy Kids? I haven't. I know what film you're talking about. I know Spy Kids, the film.

00:33:36 Speaker_13
I probably have seen Spy Kids, but I don't remember any of the food in Spy Kids.

00:33:41 Speaker_04
OK, well, there's not much. Actually, that's not true, because apparently, I found this out recently, the entire film, I think, is sponsored by McDonald's. Don't know how that happened. Great collab.

00:33:50 Speaker_04
Anyway, there's a scene where they're at the safe house.

00:33:52 Speaker_13
How many times have you seen Spy Kids? You're a big Spy Kids fan.

00:33:56 Speaker_14
So you and your three brothers watched it a lot, don't you?

00:34:00 Speaker_04
Yeah, I watched it a lot on my own. I spent a lot of time alone as a child, as you can probably tell. And I watched a lot of Spy Kids. I really loved Spies. I sort of have a very weird obsession with Spies.

00:34:10 Speaker_14
They're cool. Spies are cool.

00:34:11 Speaker_04
Spies are objectively cool. No one's like, that spy's a nerd. Because even being a nerd spy is still cool.

00:34:19 Speaker_13
Because you can't trust that they're a nerd either. Because there's probably a spy thing.

00:34:22 Speaker_04
Exactly. Anyway. I'm quite obsessed with like, you know, when you see, um, you know, it's like an older movies, like when, when they do gadgets and they've got like, you know, phones or make believe like things that they've just invented for the film.

00:34:34 Speaker_04
And they're always like really naff, but kind of amazing. You really want one. So they've got this sort of microwave, it's called a rehydrating machine. And one of the, the, the female spy, uh, the two, the female child spy, uh, Carmen is her name.

00:34:45 Speaker_04
I've just remembered that. She pulls that little packet. She's like, Look, we're going to rehydrate this. Can you tell I'm an actress? That was incredible reenactment.

00:34:53 Speaker_14
You just got the part in Spikens too.

00:34:54 Speaker_04
That was amazing. There's so much feeling when it's done.

00:34:56 Speaker_14
There's already a Spikens.

00:34:57 Speaker_04
She's like, look, we found this packet. We're going to rehydrate it. And she puts it in the microwave. No, sorry. Rehydrating machine. And it's the most gorgeous looking burger you've ever seen in your life. It's like a burger on steroids. It's massive.

00:35:09 Speaker_04
First of all, it must be a fake burger. It must be made of marzipan or something. It can't be a real burger. There's no way.

00:35:14 Speaker_14
It's gorgeous.

00:35:15 Speaker_04
I need to find a picture of this. It just looks incredible and I'm not a burger person.

00:35:19 Speaker_14
Google Spy Kids Burger.

00:35:23 Speaker_04
Thank you. Rehydrating machine.

00:35:25 Speaker_14
And if you can't find an image of it, go on videos. Surely someone's clipped it up. It just looks so good. Download Spy Kids.

00:35:32 Speaker_04
I'm sure it tastes fantastic. I think about it a lot.

00:35:37 Speaker_13
It's that added technology element that's kind of cool as well, because you're like, imagine if that thing existed, then you could just have that.

00:35:44 Speaker_04
No, I'm talking about when they come out with all these gadgets and they're just so silly and they would never work in real life. But you're like, Imagine if it did.

00:35:50 Speaker_13
Yeah. Yeah.

00:35:51 Speaker_04
So cool.

00:35:51 Speaker_13
I think in maybe in Red Dwarf, there's a machine where they just put in whatever they want and it just it makes it straight away. That's the dream.

00:35:59 Speaker_04
Yeah. In Spy Kids, he's got a pair of glasses.

00:36:02 Speaker_13
Sorry to get you off Spy Kids.

00:36:06 Speaker_04
he's got a pair of glasses and it comes out with like all of these different lenses it goes like and it's like he's got like 12 lenses that come out of this one monocle yeah and on a nine-year-old boy that's it's hilarious and brilliant and i just think you want that as well yeah i would like the glasses as well you want the monocle with the multiple lenses and you want the rehydrating burger which is the rehydrating machine i also think later in the film Benito's found it apparently have you

00:36:31 Speaker_04
Okay, there's a video, isn't it?

00:36:33 Speaker_14
Ella, full disclosure, that looks like a normal burger.

00:36:36 Speaker_04
No, no, play the video. Ben, you're doing me dirty here. Come on, help me out.

00:36:41 Speaker_14
Okay, so we're watching the clip.

00:36:42 Speaker_04
See, that's the rehydrating thing. Look how cool this tech is.

00:36:46 Speaker_14
The screen's gone over, that's pretty cool. It kind of looks like a tumble dryer. A little tumble dryer. That's a normal-sized burger has just come out.

00:36:54 Speaker_13
Yeah, but when you're a kid... A very normal looking... Wait, it does look so normal!

00:36:58 Speaker_14
It looks like a... that is a... Ella, Ella, I'm gonna say it's a Big Mac. That's a Big Mac. I mean, you told us it was sponsored by McDonald's. That is just quite a nice looking Big Mac.

00:37:08 Speaker_04
You know what, guys?

00:37:09 Speaker_13
You are right.

00:37:09 Speaker_04
I'm quite disappointed.

00:37:10 Speaker_13
It looked so much... But in your memory, it's amazing.

00:37:13 Speaker_04
In my memory, it was like... I would, like, rewind it and rewind it and rewind it and say, Mum, please, can I have a burger? Mum, please, please, please. And it was amazing. And now I've kind of ruined my choice.

00:37:23 Speaker_14
Well, we didn't know that that was going to happen just then. We thought your description of it sounded so good.

00:37:28 Speaker_04
I really thought you guys were going to be like, wow, the burger! But the concept of the machine is amazing.

00:37:33 Speaker_13
I don't want a Big Mac for my... No, but you can have the burger from your memory.

00:37:37 Speaker_04
Right. Yes. Okay. Can I have the burger that only I can remember?

00:37:40 Speaker_13
Yes.

00:37:41 Speaker_04
Just close your eyes. And imagine, you're like, do I trust you? And imagine the best burger you've ever possibly imagined. That's what it was in my head.

00:37:52 Speaker_14
Well, going to the Red Lion when I was a kid in Wellham, you know that? And having the burgers there, my memory of them is that they were as big as my head. And they were amazing. And everything was like, the cheese was really thick.

00:38:07 Speaker_14
And I had the one that had a fried egg on it as well. Didn't eat it separately, like Dexter had it on the burger. and I had to eat it with a knife and fork, like a big pie it was so big.

00:38:16 Speaker_14
I'm sure that if I went back in time and saw it, it would just be a normal burger.

00:38:20 Speaker_04
Well, it's all relative because you were smaller, weren't you? So you probably did need a knife and fork.

00:38:24 Speaker_14
Your head's bigger now, yeah. My head's grown, but like... I didn't want to say it, but... Thank you. It'd be scary if that was... It would be really scary. If I had this head as a kid, yeah, that would have been scary. But I didn't, yeah.

00:38:39 Speaker_04
Also, I feel like food just never ended when you're a child. You know, when your mum's like, you've got to finish your plate. It's like, it just, it just keeps going. It never ends.

00:38:48 Speaker_13
Never happened to me. Really? Yeah, I was a big fat kid.

00:38:51 Speaker_04
Were you?

00:38:51 Speaker_13
I finished everything.

00:38:53 Speaker_04
Okay.

00:38:53 Speaker_13
Seconds. Seconds all the way.

00:38:55 Speaker_04
Seconds.

00:38:56 Speaker_13
Yeah, yeah.

00:38:56 Speaker_04
Seconds, thirds. No food you didn't like?

00:38:58 Speaker_13
No, not really. I tried to tell everyone I didn't like tomatoes once because I felt like I shouldn't like something. I felt weird that all my friends all had things they hated. So I was like,

00:39:08 Speaker_03
Were you like secretly eating them in your bedroom?

00:39:10 Speaker_13
Yeah, I loved them, absolutely loved them. Huge bowls of tomatoes, yeah. But no, I loved tomatoes, but I was like, I don't like tomatoes guys, I'm cool too.

00:39:18 Speaker_04
Right, right, right, right. No ketchup though? That's tough. Tomatoes, you've gone for one that's kind of like, I mean, no bolognese, no tomato pasta?

00:39:27 Speaker_13
I think raw tomatoes I was saying that I didn't like.

00:39:29 Speaker_04
Oh, okay, fine, fine, fine. But I did, I did like them.

00:39:31 Speaker_13
You did like them.

00:39:33 Speaker_04
Oh, you've just been outed. You've outed yourself.

00:39:35 Speaker_13
Yeah. Oh, no, I'm out and about now. Oh, you're out and about. Still eating tomatoes in your bedroom.

00:39:42 Speaker_14
Everyone that you went to school with doesn't know you were lying at the time. So if they listen to this and go, I can't believe Gamble was lying about... We all believe that he didn't like tomatoes.

00:39:49 Speaker_04
Changing a lot of lives right now. This is a big moment.

00:39:51 Speaker_14
Huge. This is a podcast exclusive. You would like the burger that, from your memory, from Spy Kids.

00:39:59 Speaker_04
Yeah, I guess so. I'm a bit disappointed with my option now. Where's my choice?

00:40:02 Speaker_14
From your falsely remembered version of Spy Kids is the burger that you would like for your dream main course. Spy Kids Memory Burger.

00:40:09 Speaker_04
Yeah, fine. I'm committing. I'm locked in. Yeah.

00:40:12 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:40:12 Speaker_04
Okay. I'm gonna stand by it.

00:40:14 Speaker_13
Yeah.

00:40:15 Speaker_04
I'm owning it. Yeah. Even though it was a bit disappointing.

00:40:18 Speaker_13
Are there chips in your memory as well? They are eating the chips.

00:40:23 Speaker_04
It was like just a plate with a massive burger.

00:40:26 Speaker_14
Yeah.

00:40:28 Speaker_04
It's so disappointing guys. I mean, my heart hurts.

00:40:31 Speaker_14
I do encourage everyone listening to this to watch the video.

00:40:35 Speaker_13
It's very funny when you see how normal the burger is. And how much it's clearly a Big Mac and fries.

00:40:40 Speaker_04
But I wonder how many people can relate to what I'm saying because I think a lot of people think that burger was amazing. Spy Kids was huge! But the Spy Kids kids...

00:40:51 Speaker_13
We're not doubting that Spy Kids was huge. We've never once disputed that Spy Kids was huge.

00:40:56 Speaker_14
Listen, they got like, what, two sequels?

00:40:58 Speaker_03
It was huge.

00:40:59 Speaker_14
But like, even the Spy Kids kids in that clip don't seem fussed about that burger. They get it. They're doing something else while eating it.

00:41:08 Speaker_04
They're not even like... They're arguably disappointed. They don't care.

00:41:11 Speaker_14
They're like, this is a normal burger. We know it's just normal.

00:41:13 Speaker_04
Yeah, fine.

00:41:14 Speaker_14
But that's nice that in your head it's great and that's what you're getting for your meal.

00:41:17 Speaker_04
And that's what I'm getting because it is off menu, isn't it? I get to choose whatever I want. Yeah. Choose whatever you like. That is the rule of the game. So if it's your memory, it's fine.

00:41:23 Speaker_13
I love that it's a game now. Everything's a game.

00:41:27 Speaker_03
Everything's a game if you're competitive enough. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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00:43:23 Speaker_14
Your dream side dish?

00:43:24 Speaker_04
Side's hard, because I'm not really much... I really like the concept of a salad, but I never like the actual salad.

00:43:31 Speaker_04
And especially when you're a bit full, and you've had something quite hot and heavy, and then you feel a bit weighed down, and you think a salad's going to undo that damage, because it's cold and refreshing and green, it's like a bright colour, and it never does that.

00:43:44 Speaker_04
It's always disappointing. So not a salad, but I wanted you to know that I went there.

00:43:49 Speaker_13
Do you like the idea of a salad?

00:43:51 Speaker_04
I would like to eat the concept of a salad, but not the actual salad.

00:43:53 Speaker_13
Hey, well, look, you may spike his memory burger. Spike his memory burger. The concept of a salad would be an appropriate side.

00:44:00 Speaker_14
Yeah, we'd absolutely suit it, but I'm happy to whittle this down one dish at a time until we get to your side.

00:44:04 Speaker_04
No, no, no, we don't have to do that. Let's just go through all the food.

00:44:06 Speaker_14
So salads, salads are out.

00:44:07 Speaker_04
No, I would like it to be really cheap prawn crackers, like the ones from like, I want them to be like 60p, out of a packet from Tesco's or Lidl and they're greasy and that's why it's good, it's nice.

00:44:23 Speaker_04
When I get crisps from the shop, I always look for the prawn crackers first.

00:44:27 Speaker_14
Right.

00:44:27 Speaker_04
Which is funny because I don't eat fish. Prawn crackers I don't think have any traces of actual prawn in them. Do you think they do? Yeah. I don't think they do. I'm pretty sure they're probably vegan or something.

00:44:37 Speaker_13
They don't taste fishy though.

00:44:39 Speaker_04
No, they don't.

00:44:40 Speaker_13
Yeah, they're crispy, they're greasy.

00:44:41 Speaker_04
Prawn cocktail.

00:44:42 Speaker_13
Prawn cocktail crisps have no... They're mainly just tomato ketchup flavour. Yeah, I don't think they have any actual prawn in them. But prawn crackers I think Oh, like made of prawns, yeah.

00:44:52 Speaker_14
He just raises his eyebrows and nods his head while looking at his screen.

00:44:56 Speaker_04
They're vegan, aren't they?

00:44:56 Speaker_14
Yes, prawn crackers contain prawns. That's what AI overviewers said.

00:45:01 Speaker_04
What does AI know, eh?

00:45:02 Speaker_14
What does the internet know?

00:45:05 Speaker_04
Well, maybe I do like fish then, but just in cheap prawn cracker flavours.

00:45:09 Speaker_13
From the supermarket, you want supermarket prawns?

00:45:11 Speaker_04
Yeah, I just want really shit ones. I don't like them when they're fancy and come from a nice restaurant. It's not the same. I want them to be really greasy. I want them to make my fingers feel bad after I've eaten them.

00:45:25 Speaker_14
Your fingers have to feel bad?

00:45:26 Speaker_04
Yeah, like you've got to wash your hands after. Which I suppose you should probably always do, but I don't do it very often.

00:45:32 Speaker_14
Mix-a-tap? Washing your hands under the mix-a-tap?

00:45:35 Speaker_04
Yeah, hot cod, hot cod, hot, like that.

00:45:37 Speaker_14
Yeah, you like to do it like that.

00:45:39 Speaker_04
Yeah, I've got to make the sound effects too when I do it.

00:45:40 Speaker_14
Yeah, you've got to say hot, cold, hot, cold. So these are like the white prawn crackers, not like the Thai prawn crackers where it's like they're a bit brown.

00:45:47 Speaker_04
No, that's too nice.

00:45:48 Speaker_14
You want bog-standard prawn crackers.

00:45:50 Speaker_04
Yeah, that's a bit like polystyrene.

00:45:53 Speaker_13
Yeah, yeah, I know.

00:45:54 Speaker_04
But less squeaky than I imagine eating a bit of polystyrene would be. Never done it.

00:46:00 Speaker_14
Meme of I, but do you know what? Fuck that.

00:46:02 Speaker_04
Imagine I got it and I was like, my perfect side dish would be polystyrene.

00:46:05 Speaker_13
I don't care who I offend with polystyrene. I hate polystyrene.

00:46:08 Speaker_04
Do you?

00:46:08 Speaker_13
Yeah, I hate it. Why? I don't see the point.

00:46:11 Speaker_12
What?

00:46:11 Speaker_13
What do you mean you don't see the point? We can surely come up with something better by now that's not squeaky and makes me feel weird when I touch it.

00:46:18 Speaker_04
Oh, it makes you feel weird when you touch it?

00:46:20 Speaker_13
Yeah, and the idea of... My worst thing is imagining someone soaring through some polystyrene.

00:46:25 Speaker_03
That is bad. Yeah, it's bad, isn't it?

00:46:26 Speaker_13
Oh no, I don't like that. I've done it before. What?

00:46:28 Speaker_14
I've sawed through a massive block of polystyrene with a saw. Why? I had to get a giant polystyrene W into a car boot and I couldn't, so I had to saw it into two Vs.

00:46:41 Speaker_12
So what are you talking about? I've got questions.

00:46:44 Speaker_14
Yeah. I was collecting giant yellow polystyrene W's at the time. I was going through a phase.

00:46:49 Speaker_04
How many did you have?

00:46:50 Speaker_14
I think we got like five or six in the end. I can't remember exactly how many, but like, yeah, we got a fair few.

00:46:56 Speaker_04
So when you saw it, you stick it back together again on the other side?

00:46:59 Speaker_14
We actually didn't end up sticking it back together again. It was just knocked around in my friend's sister's garage for a few years. I don't know if it's even there still.

00:47:06 Speaker_04
I bet they were thrilled, that friend.

00:47:07 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah. She ended up with, yeah, the one that was in half and another one, that sister. So, like, she had those.

00:47:13 Speaker_04
You need to find someone that collects polystyrene Vs. Vs, yeah.

00:47:16 Speaker_14
And donate.

00:47:17 Speaker_04
Then they would be delighted. Yeah. God, that would be the greatest collab of all time.

00:47:21 Speaker_13
Make that person's day. Now, Ben seems like he has more questions. I definitely do. You can't ask, you can't talk. Ella said she had questions and then didn't ask any of the questions that I thought you were going to ask.

00:47:29 Speaker_03
I asked loads of questions, just because they weren't the ones that you wanted. Was it your questions? Yeah. I've asked my questions, like, very much.

00:47:36 Speaker_13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've cleared it up.

00:47:37 Speaker_03
What are your questions?

00:47:38 Speaker_13
Why, why, why did you do this?

00:47:40 Speaker_03
Why is my main question.

00:47:41 Speaker_13
Why? Why were you collecting polystyrene W's?

00:47:45 Speaker_04
Oh, right, that is the obvious question.

00:47:47 Speaker_14
Yeah, of course. I was in a band called The Wow Scenario.

00:47:51 Speaker_04
Oh, right. Oh, it does make sense.

00:47:53 Speaker_14
Someone told us, hey, I know someone who's got a giant polystyrene W. You can have it on stage when you do your gigs. So, went to pick it up, and then we went to get it, and it was, like, huge.

00:48:02 Speaker_14
And we had to, like, try and put it on the roof of the car. but it was like gonna fly off and it was very, it was, and then I brought it home.

00:48:10 Speaker_04
Honestly it was quite light, it was quite light, it would have just flown in the air.

00:48:13 Speaker_14
That's what we were worried about in the dual carriageway, if it flies off, you know, the roof and then like takes someone out.

00:48:19 Speaker_14
But we got it home and my dad was like, that is not coming in the house, like it's no, you've got no choice, you've got no say in this old man, we're having to do this.

00:48:26 Speaker_14
And then we're talking to a guy, a local photographer, and we're like, here's an idea for our photo shoot we're gonna do with you. Got this giant yellow W, we're gonna bring it along to your studio. And he went, I've already got one, I don't need it.

00:48:38 Speaker_14
We're like, what are you talking about, you've already got one. And he showed us a picture, we're like, that's identical to our one. And he was like, yeah, well this... Connections, I've got them in their windows.

00:48:47 Speaker_14
They've got this whole thing for people leaving school about what next. It's this whole campaign they're doing. They've all been given these giant yellow doubles. They all hate them. They don't want them in their shops. They're taking up too much room.

00:48:58 Speaker_14
So they just gave me one for free. They all just want rid of them. So then at the time, me and my friend were like, let's get loads and fill the whole stage with them. And we'll do that.

00:49:07 Speaker_13
How many did you need though? Because you're called the wow scenario.

00:49:09 Speaker_04
I mean, it's unbelievable that you've managed to acquire five of these.

00:49:12 Speaker_14
Yeah, we got quite a few of them, and then we kind of ran out of steam and just forgot about it. The band broke up. The band broke up.

00:49:20 Speaker_14
And then, like, my friend Ben, who, like, kept at least one of them for us in his garage, moved house and forgot about it. So the people who came in after him would have opened that garage door and been like, what the hell? Who's this guy?

00:49:31 Speaker_04
I mean, look, there's worse letters to collect, isn't there? I feel like W, out of all the letters, is probably the most versatile.

00:49:36 Speaker_14
Well, you know what I'm going to ask? What is the worst letter that you could collect?

00:49:40 Speaker_04
Well, an S can only be two Cs. A W can be an I, an N, a Z, or two Vs. An R is pretty shit. An R could be an I, could be two I's, or an L, I suppose, or an W could be an L as well. An I, an I is probably, well, no, there's got to be others, come on.

00:49:57 Speaker_04
B, B, what can B be? Two C's, I suppose. A, um, sorry, this is my podcast now.

00:50:03 Speaker_14
We're going to clip this up. This is the rantings of a madman. Like, I've never had a guest do such a model, an intellectual model like this, I'm so insane. Go through all the letters and what they could be if you chopped them up. And not in order.

00:50:19 Speaker_14
Not in order, just all over the place. And just for the listener, we haven't sped it up.

00:50:25 Speaker_13
That is the speed that Ella was talking about. That was amazing.

00:50:28 Speaker_03
I'm so, so sorry.

00:50:28 Speaker_13
I got kind of excited. But it's interesting, all the letters could be chopped up to be other letters. Yeah.

00:50:35 Speaker_04
It is interesting. That's why I got so excited, because I've never thought of it before.

00:50:39 Speaker_13
I think C is the worst.

00:50:40 Speaker_04
C is the worst. That's very smart. C is good.

00:50:43 Speaker_13
C can't be anything else.

00:50:44 Speaker_04
C is terrible. No. C can't be anything.

00:50:48 Speaker_14
C is useless.

00:50:50 Speaker_04
Sorry.

00:50:51 Speaker_14
And that'd be the worst one. If I was taking that on top of the car, if that blows away, it'll boom around back to you. You're in big trouble.

00:51:02 Speaker_03
This is my favourite conversation I've ever had. I'm going to be thinking about this for such a long time.

00:51:08 Speaker_14
Most guests come on here and say that. It's the best conversation I've ever had.

00:51:11 Speaker_04
Do they? But do they talk about chopping up lettuce?

00:51:13 Speaker_14
No, they don't. Oh, listen, you're the best guest.

00:51:15 Speaker_04
No, they don't.

00:51:17 Speaker_14
Thank you so much. No question. Did we get your dream side?

00:51:19 Speaker_04
Hold on. It's really, really warm.

00:51:20 Speaker_14
Did we know what your dream side was? My dream side?

00:51:23 Speaker_13
Yeah, prawn crackers. Oh, it's prawn crackers, of course it was. That's how we got to it. All the concept of a salad. All the concept of a salad, but not the actual. We can give you both. Am I allowed to? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:32 Speaker_04
So this is the weirdest meal?

00:51:33 Speaker_13
If one of them's a concept, you're allowed to.

00:51:35 Speaker_04
Okay, fine. If one of them's a memory.

00:51:37 Speaker_13
Yeah.

00:51:38 Speaker_04
I'm going to be very hungry after eating memories and concepts.

00:51:41 Speaker_14
I'm not sure you've had any food yet.

00:51:42 Speaker_04
I've had water.

00:51:43 Speaker_14
You're not doing much to, like, dispel the... stereotype of actresses. Most bits imagine me, I just like the concept of salad.

00:51:54 Speaker_13
The starter, I just want to watch other people eat.

00:51:56 Speaker_04
Yeah, that is the most Hollywood shit I've ever heard. I like the concept of food.

00:52:05 Speaker_14
Your dream drink?

00:52:07 Speaker_04
Diet Coke.

00:52:11 Speaker_14
I almost don't want to ask any questions, it's a very funny delivery. Diet Coke, so why is that your favourite drink?

00:52:16 Speaker_04
It's such a boring one. How many people come on here and say Diet Coke? But it's true.

00:52:19 Speaker_13
Diet Coke's great.

00:52:22 Speaker_04
It's the cure for all ailments. I can't even say it. But it is the cure for hangover and nausea.

00:52:31 Speaker_14
When have you been the most nauseous? What has made you the most nauseous?

00:52:34 Speaker_04
That's a weird question, isn't it? It's a very weird question. What's made you the most nauseous?

00:52:39 Speaker_14
It is pretty weird.

00:52:39 Speaker_04
I like it. What has made me the most nauseous? Food poisoning. Oh, I've got a great... I won't tell it.

00:52:44 Speaker_14
Go on. You can't do that.

00:52:46 Speaker_04
You can't go on a podcast and say, oh, I've got a great... It's kind of food-related, but it's kind of gross.

00:52:50 Speaker_14
Yeah, we've had a lot of gross stories on this.

00:52:52 Speaker_04
And it involves me outing a chain, which I don't know how you feel about that. I don't want to be sponsored by them.

00:52:56 Speaker_14
No, we're not sponsored by nothing. Go for it.

00:52:58 Speaker_04
By nothing.

00:52:59 Speaker_13
We are, James. Huh? We record loads of adverts all the time. And if it's one of our sponsors, we'll bleep it.

00:53:06 Speaker_04
Yeah, bleep the whole story. I went on a date once with this really fit guy. He was a model, gorgeous.

00:53:16 Speaker_14
Shout out to that guy.

00:53:17 Speaker_04
So hot, unbelievable. Do you want to shout him out? No, thank you. He's going to listen to this and he's going to be thrilled. Maybe he won't.

00:53:24 Speaker_14
Buddy, if you're listening, we hope you're having a good day. No fit guys listen to this. Yeah, that's a point.

00:53:29 Speaker_04
He's Australian. He's Australian. I've got to get to the other stories, I'm so embarrassed.

00:53:32 Speaker_14
No, no, keep describing this guy.

00:53:33 Speaker_04
Okay, he's Australian. He doesn't know London very well. He comes to London and we meet up and I can't believe my luck.

00:53:39 Speaker_14
And so I take him to... I've never heard anyone so excited about a date.

00:53:43 Speaker_13
Actually, especially not... I can't believe this. It's rare you hear a woman say that. I can't believe it. I can't believe my luck. He's so fit.

00:53:52 Speaker_04
He's excited about the concept of a date. Okay, guys, I'm cool. I'm playing it cool. I think it's very nice. Yeah, look at me, playing it cool. In hindsight, did not play it cool.

00:54:00 Speaker_04
Took him to a Mexican chain restaurant that I loved, that back in the day, this was a while ago, it was about 10 years ago, was quite cool and quite trendy. Don't know if it is anymore, but it was back then.

00:54:11 Speaker_15
Okay.

00:54:11 Speaker_04
Took him there, had a great time, had a little snog at the end, ate loads of food, good chat. I was thinking, I've done it.

00:54:18 Speaker_13
Did you snog him and then say, I can't believe my luck?

00:54:21 Speaker_04
I was like, I can't believe, you know, it was sort of like, and I was also hyperventilating and crying at the same time. Bit breaking away, going, my luck! Yeah, but like that, really high pitched.

00:54:31 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah. Wait, when you snogged, did you have the stuff in your mouth from that game you played?

00:54:35 Speaker_03
Yeah, I was doing it with Watch Your Mouth.

00:54:38 Speaker_14
Watch Your Mouth, you put that in.

00:54:39 Speaker_04
I was like, I can't believe!

00:54:41 Speaker_14
Like that, it was like that, it's fantastic.

00:54:43 Speaker_04
God, I sound so cool in this story.

00:54:46 Speaker_14
It's a cool story. Anyway. We know that it's leading up to you shitting yourself.

00:54:49 Speaker_04
So, yeah. You just ruined the punchline. Do you like doing that? Do you like taking people's joy away? Yeah. Do you like doing that?

00:54:56 Speaker_03
Well, everyone knows that's what's fun about it.

00:54:59 Speaker_04
Unbelievable. I really thought, right, yeah, there's a long story short is the next day was Halloween. I invited him to a party.

00:55:06 Speaker_13
So I don't know why that's made me laugh so much. Long story short, it was Halloween. The next day was Halloween.

00:55:12 Speaker_04
Next day.

00:55:13 Speaker_13
You invited him to a party.

00:55:13 Speaker_14
So this is like two days in a row you've seen the... Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:55:16 Speaker_04
He was only in town for a short amount of time. Yeah. I went to the party, it was very, you know, Halloween-y, very hot. I looked very hot, I'm gonna say it, guys. I really dressed up.

00:55:27 Speaker_14
He can't believe his luck.

00:55:28 Speaker_04
He's saying, I can't believe my luck.

00:55:30 Speaker_14
What was the hunk dressed as for Halloween?

00:55:32 Speaker_04
Batman or something, I can't remember.

00:55:34 Speaker_14
Come on, it was the hunk, he can remember? I don't know.

00:55:37 Speaker_04
I mean, look, it's safe to say we never spoke again after Halloween.

00:55:40 Speaker_14
Okay.

00:55:41 Speaker_04
So, yeah, I went to this Halloween party and we walked in, I looked incredibly fit. and I shit my pants in the middle of this Halloween party.

00:55:52 Speaker_04
And right after I shit my pants, I turn to him to say I've shit my pants, but I projectile vomit all down Batman. And then he turns to me and he also projectile vomits. We have to leave the party, right?

00:56:08 Speaker_03
That's the first thing that's come to mind.

00:56:10 Speaker_14
I'd say the party's over for most people. Everyone's going home. Everyone's going home. Happy Halloween.

00:56:16 Speaker_04
God, this is such a horrible story, but it's also so fucking funny. Anyway, so we never spoke again. And turns out this restaurant had this this crazy outbreak of norovirus. I was so unwell for about a week. It was so embarrassing.

00:56:32 Speaker_04
We it was just it's the worst. It's the worst. It keeps me up at night. But also because of the three brothers, I tell it all the time. I tell the story all the time.

00:56:39 Speaker_14
It's great.

00:56:40 Speaker_04
It's hilarious.

00:56:41 Speaker_14
Great story.

00:56:42 Speaker_04
It's also just after that. I just I couldn't believe my luck. Sorry. I have to say. I had to do it. I'm so sorry. I just, I had to end like that.

00:56:50 Speaker_13
Was fit Batman projectile vomiting because you projectile vomited or did he also have norovirus from the restaurant?

00:56:58 Speaker_04
Yeah. Yeah. My publicist is in there wanting to, to fall into a hole into the ground. I'm going to get fired from my, from my publicist.

00:57:05 Speaker_14
Your publicist knows what does the rounds on social media. This is absolutely The best thing that could have happened. Sweet Pea is going to be watched by everyone.

00:57:13 Speaker_04
I've ruined my life. I've ruined it. Yeah, no, I don't. He also had norovirus.

00:57:17 Speaker_13
Yeah. So that must have made you feel a bit better about it.

00:57:20 Speaker_04
Oh, it did. I mean, look, we're all human, aren't we? You know? Nobody is strong enough to withstand the amount of tacos that I ate full of norovirus. I've eaten straight norovirus. I mean, look, it's going to happen. It's fine. Really, it's a good story.

00:57:35 Speaker_04
It could have been an amazing, and that's how I met your mother moment. It just, neither of us were strong enough. Also, it's good for Halloween.

00:57:43 Speaker_13
Projectile vomit's good for Halloween, isn't it?

00:57:44 Speaker_04
So on brand.

00:57:45 Speaker_13
If you'd been dressed as the girl from The Exorcist, it would have been perfect.

00:57:49 Speaker_04
That would have been so good. Also, why don't we just like pretend that was part of the Halloween, you know, party decorating.

00:57:57 Speaker_13
It's hard to do that, I guess, when you stink of sick and shit. Also, you made a big thing about, you're like, I look fit. I look so fit.

00:58:06 Speaker_04
I did.

00:58:06 Speaker_13
What a waste of an outfit.

00:58:08 Speaker_04
Had to burn it. Yeah, that would be crazy. I didn't burn it. My mum had to come pick me up, though. Oh, so embarrassing.

00:58:14 Speaker_03
Mum, you picked me up and shot myself at a party.

00:58:18 Speaker_14
I'd shat myself, and as I turned to tell my date, I'd shat myself, I'd puked all over him. And then he puked. And then he puked. Can you come and pick me up, please?

00:58:25 Speaker_04
Please pick me up. So anyway... Diet Coke. How did we get onto that? Diet Coke, right.

00:58:30 Speaker_13
And then you had Diet Coke the next day, and it cured your asthma.

00:58:32 Speaker_04
Oh, and it cured my... That's... Yeah, yeah. That is how... Why did I tell that story? We can believe that whole thing, right?

00:58:38 Speaker_13
Yeah, we're going to bleep the heart. It's going to be one long bleep.

00:58:41 Speaker_04
We can. We won't.

00:58:43 Speaker_14
We can. We know what our listeners like. Yeah. There's been many stories told in this podcast of people shitting themselves. That's one of the more dramatic ones.

00:58:53 Speaker_04
Was it? I like a good dramatic reading.

00:58:55 Speaker_14
It's a good one. Do you want to tell my shit myself story?

00:58:57 Speaker_04
Thank you, Ben.

00:58:59 Speaker_14
I mean, I hate to have to say this, but which one? I mean, loads of times.

00:59:06 Speaker_03
How many times?

00:59:07 Speaker_14
As an adult. We can't go right back to when you were a little baby. As an adult twice, I think. I think I've told both of them on the podcast. One was when I had a quesadilla from a truck.

00:59:22 Speaker_14
Mexican food truck then did a TV show the next day I was in LA did a stand-up set and then instant and then my agent and stamps it didn't go well and my agent at the time wanted to go to a steakhouse though I went to the steakhouse shit my pants and While you're at a urinal was that a year ago you were in a bar

00:59:40 Speaker_04
Bathroom?

00:59:40 Speaker_14
It doesn't count! What are you talking about? It doesn't count if you're in a bathroom! I wasn't sitting on the toilet.

00:59:46 Speaker_13
His story is not, I was sat on the toilet. I shit myself all the time.

00:59:51 Speaker_14
I shit myself this morning. I was sitting on the toilet, thank God. Once again, the old toilet caught it. But I repeatedly shit myself every day into a toilet. Oh no, I did it again. Oh, phew. Don't want to tell people this. Fine.

01:00:10 Speaker_04
At least you're on private.

01:00:11 Speaker_14
I was having a... I was urinating, standing up with my trousers and pants on.

01:00:16 Speaker_04
No.

01:00:17 Speaker_14
And then shat in.

01:00:17 Speaker_04
Really?

01:00:18 Speaker_14
Yeah, because I thought... What did you think? This is a fart. Yeah.

01:00:22 Speaker_04
One of those, eh?

01:00:23 Speaker_14
Yeah. He's one of the men who stand at urinals and fart while they're pissing. The whole bathroom was empty.

01:00:28 Speaker_04
No one was in there, so I was like... I've never pissed standing up, so I wouldn't know how easy or not easy... I don't know the connotation, so I don't know what that means.

01:00:34 Speaker_14
It's the best feeling in the world.

01:00:35 Speaker_13
There's men who stand and... That's the best feeling in the world. There's men who will proudly fart while they're stood up. Yeah, they're bad men.

01:00:45 Speaker_04
Most people fart when they're standing, don't they?

01:00:48 Speaker_13
Do you pause the pee to fart?

01:00:49 Speaker_04
Who knows how they do it? You see a beatboxer and they can do like...

01:00:59 Speaker_14
The bassline and the drums at the same time.

01:01:01 Speaker_00
You're like, how the fuck is this guy?

01:01:02 Speaker_14
That's what these guys, these men are like.

01:01:03 Speaker_03
The bassline and the drums at the same time is so good. That's gonna live in my head rent-free. That's amazing.

01:01:10 Speaker_14
But yeah, that's when I did it. Benito is demanding that you say more about Diet Coke, but I don't know if you want. You don't have to.

01:01:21 Speaker_04
I'm trying to get a Diet Coke sponsorship. I don't know about you guys. I'm out here trying to get free Diet Coke for life. Do you remember the Nando's Black Cars? I don't know if they were actually real or not.

01:01:28 Speaker_14
They were real. We know people about them.

01:01:30 Speaker_04
Oh yeah?

01:01:31 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:32 Speaker_04
Alright, weird flex.

01:01:33 Speaker_14
I've seen them.

01:01:36 Speaker_04
I'm trying to get a Diet Coke black car, that's just all I want.

01:01:38 Speaker_13
And that's why you told the puking story.

01:01:39 Speaker_04
Because I think that's going to really help their brand. Really help their image. That it cures all ailments, that's the focus. It can cure norovirus.

01:01:52 Speaker_13
can cure norovirus.

01:01:53 Speaker_04
Wow. I've said it now. Yeah. Am I going to double down? Yes, I am.

01:02:00 Speaker_13
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:01 Speaker_04
It can cure.

01:02:02 Speaker_14
This has gone very Joe Rogan this podcast. Oh yeah. It's bound to happen eventually. Yeah. We'll eventually get straight into those waters. Yeah. Pull that up Bonito.

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01:02:59 Speaker_10
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01:03:26 Speaker_14
Your dream dessert.

01:03:28 Speaker_04
The doughnuts from Adventure Island on Southend-on-Sea. You ever been there? Adventure Island, Southend-on-Sea? No. It's so good.

01:03:35 Speaker_13
Ben is calmly nodding because of course he's been.

01:03:37 Speaker_04
And you've had the doughnuts, I assume. Everyone's had the doughnuts. No, you haven't. He likes theme parks and stuff.

01:03:43 Speaker_14
He's definitely been to the, yeah.

01:03:45 Speaker_04
You like a theme park? I love a theme park. I love a roller coaster. It's my second favourite after games.

01:03:53 Speaker_13
I love that that your thought process there was like, oh no, I've just I've just betrayed games By saying I like roller. I love roller coasters. They're my favorite.

01:04:01 Speaker_04
I'm nothing if not loyal. Yeah, very loyal And I love a list.

01:04:05 Speaker_13
So it's important to me to know what my favorite things are in order But interestingly lists are not at the top of the list.

01:04:11 Speaker_04
Oh shit You keep doing this, you keep sort of confusing me and you give me a lot to think about. I'm going to go home and I'm going to just lie in the dark looking up at the ceiling thinking about where lists ranks on my list of favourite things.

01:04:28 Speaker_14
Do you love lists more than games and roller coasters?

01:04:30 Speaker_04
I use them more than I use games. And I definitely visit a list more than I visit a rollercoaster. Rollercoaster, you can't do too much, it loses. That's why I came in really strong with that opinion. I do feel quite strong about it.

01:04:43 Speaker_04
You can't do a rollercoaster too much, it loses the impact. Once you know where the drop is, it's less fun.

01:04:50 Speaker_13
You forget.

01:04:51 Speaker_04
Or close your eyes.

01:04:52 Speaker_13
But with a list, it's fun every time, right?

01:04:58 Speaker_04
Yeah, it is.

01:04:58 Speaker_13
You can't close your eyes with a list.

01:05:00 Speaker_04
I quite like re-prioritizing lists. I do it like multiple times a day. Like, oh, that doesn't deserve number two. That should be really like number ten. Yeah, big list person. I keep lists of everything. Didn't weirdly make a list for this.

01:05:11 Speaker_04
Yeah, that's interesting. Sort of the only thing I should maybe have made a list for.

01:05:15 Speaker_13
Yeah.

01:05:15 Speaker_04
But I wanted to be surprised.

01:05:16 Speaker_13
Yeah, yeah. And we've been surprised by some of your choices. And I wanted to surprise you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:20 Speaker_03
Did I succeed? Are you surprised?

01:05:22 Speaker_14
Oh, very surprised. Constantly. Been so many surprises. I didn't expect you to puke after shitting yourself. Yeah, you thought you knew the ending of that story, didn't you?

01:05:33 Speaker_04
No, I didn't. No, you didn't. No. The surprisee becomes the surprise-er. Yeah, exactly. I spent a lot of time in Southend-on-Sea. My nan lives there. And I spent a lot of time there when I was a child. Arguably too much time.

01:05:48 Speaker_04
Had my birthday party there when I was nine. That's nice. Yeah, it was really nice. Really, really nice.

01:05:53 Speaker_03
It was a really, really good time.

01:05:56 Speaker_13
Why are you so aggressively telling us it was nice?

01:05:58 Speaker_04
Because it wasn't very nice.

01:06:00 Speaker_13
Okay.

01:06:01 Speaker_04
Because it was fine. It was just, it was, um, it's a birthday party and I, you know, I didn't, I didn't have a ton of friends.

01:06:08 Speaker_04
And so I invited, I invited nine people and then my mum made me invite everyone in the class, which was just, it just automatically, it's very embarrassing. You've got to get on a train.

01:06:16 Speaker_04
By the time you've got there, you know, you've spent two hours on a train with 23 people that don't like you very much. And then you get to Southend-on-Sea and it's raining and no one's been to Essex before.

01:06:26 Speaker_13
Yeah.

01:06:26 Speaker_04
You know?

01:06:27 Speaker_13
So you've got to introduce all these kids to Essex. So then you go, welcome to Essex. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:30 Speaker_04
And you know, I'm now picturing myself like a sort of a nine-year-old Essex tour guide. Yeah. And then you say, try these donuts. But the donuts were a hit. Maybe that's why I want the donuts, because it's a happy memory.

01:06:41 Speaker_14
Because all the kids thought you were cool.

01:06:42 Speaker_04
Because all the kids were like, yeah, she's really cool.

01:06:45 Speaker_14
Do they have anything on them, these doughnuts?

01:06:47 Speaker_04
Sugary, sugary doughnuts. Are they fresh? Yeah. 12 little ones in like a bag. They're just like, it's nostalgic. And it's, and it's, I guess, like the sugar high combined with the, with the roller coasters. It's just like, it's a good time. It's a good day.

01:07:02 Speaker_04
And then, you know, you eat as many as you can. You feel really sick. Again, that's part of the South Island Sea experience. It's feeling sick on the roller coaster. And they're hot. I said that already. Sugary, did I say that? Lots of sugar?

01:07:12 Speaker_13
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:13 Speaker_04
We know that they're sugary.

01:07:13 Speaker_13
Do they come with like a sauce or anything? Or are they just plain, the little hot... I don't think so.

01:07:18 Speaker_04
I'm not really much of a sauce girl. I don't really... I never liked the sauce. I like my crumble plain. I don't like really ice cream or custard or anything on the crumble. Is that a red flag? You're looking at me like that.

01:07:29 Speaker_13
No, no, it's a red flag. I think it's interesting, but you know.

01:07:32 Speaker_04
Both of your voices went very high when you said that. You're betraying yourselves. No, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. It's alright. I really tried to get away.

01:07:40 Speaker_03
Yeah, that was quite disappointing.

01:07:43 Speaker_14
Well, look, I was more like, oh, why have we jumped to crumble straight away?

01:07:48 Speaker_04
Oh, right.

01:07:49 Speaker_14
You know, it was like, I think it was to illustrate that you're not a source girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough.

01:07:55 Speaker_04
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:56 Speaker_14
Do you want to have a guess at who I'm thinking of? Because otherwise, the listener is going to be like, why did that game of guess who just never?

01:08:03 Speaker_04
Yeah, let's do it.

01:08:04 Speaker_14
Yeah. So do you want to ask me one of your famous questions?

01:08:06 Speaker_04
I think you should ask me.

01:08:12 Speaker_14
So you're thinking about one of these two.

01:08:14 Speaker_13
Never try and game the gamer.

01:08:21 Speaker_04
I'm thinking of one of the people in this room but it could also be you. One of the three people, not including me.

01:08:30 Speaker_14
Ask the question. Huh? Ask a question. Yes, I will. Ask a question. When they were a little boy, did they frequently eat a dish called the picker's basket?

01:08:43 Speaker_04
None of you have got very, oh no, maybe you've all got very good poker faces. Is it Ben? Are you Ben? Hold on. I'm going purely off the poker face. What do you mean, what is this game?

01:08:56 Speaker_14
I thought you're thinking of one of them.

01:08:58 Speaker_04
No, you're thinking of someone. Oh no, I'm thinking of someone.

01:09:00 Speaker_14
You're thinking of someone, and I'm asking you, based on your rules.

01:09:04 Speaker_04
Wait, no, no, no, hang on.

01:09:05 Speaker_14
So Ella doesn't know our backgrounds enough to know. No, no, no, we've got the game wrong. Well, Ella flipped it, didn't she?

01:09:09 Speaker_04
I've got to think of someone.

01:09:10 Speaker_13
I know more about you guys.

01:09:11 Speaker_04
But then, hang on a minute, why have you asked me questions?

01:09:15 Speaker_13
Because that's how Guess Who works.

01:09:16 Speaker_04
No, it is.

01:09:16 Speaker_13
You told me to.

01:09:17 Speaker_04
No, but then... So true. Also, this is a very hard game because I don't know you guys. We've just met. I don't know anything about you.

01:09:23 Speaker_13
Okay, okay, I'll do it. I'll do it when there's more. Do you know anything about the people on Guess Who?

01:09:25 Speaker_03
I guess not.

01:09:27 Speaker_13
Yeah.

01:09:28 Speaker_03
I guess not.

01:09:28 Speaker_13
Okay. But it can't be a background question. It has to be a vibe question. Okay.

01:09:32 Speaker_14
Do they look like, if they picked up... Oh, I say yes or no.

01:09:36 Speaker_04
That's how the game works.

01:09:36 Speaker_14
...a bowl full of cereal, their little wrists would snap?

01:09:43 Speaker_04
Yes.

01:09:44 Speaker_14
Is it Ben?

01:09:45 Speaker_04
No.

01:09:46 Speaker_14
Is it me? Yes!

01:09:47 Speaker_04
I can't believe you just asked me a question and I guessed the person. I've so grossly misunderstood the concept of guessing. I quite like it. I quite like this game. This is good. It's good in person. It's a good in person game.

01:10:01 Speaker_13
We don't need the board actually. Delighted to be last on the list of people whose wrists would snap if they picked up a bowl of cereal.

01:10:09 Speaker_03
I mean, your wrists don't look like they would snap.

01:10:15 Speaker_04
Also, what's quite hard is that you have to not look at the person to check their wrists. I didn't walk in here and immediately look at everyone's wrists.

01:10:24 Speaker_04
So I actually only picked you because you were the only person whose wrists I could see in my peripheral vision.

01:10:27 Speaker_14
So you couldn't see Ben's?

01:10:28 Speaker_04
Well, I didn't want to go like that because you were looking at me. You would have seen me go like that.

01:10:32 Speaker_13
I thought you would have made a wrist list.

01:10:34 Speaker_04
A wrist list? Well, I've walked in, I've gone on my phone and gone, best wrists. From one to three.

01:10:41 Speaker_14
Weren't you already meant to be thinking of someone? So you should have already been thinking of me.

01:10:45 Speaker_04
So then when I asked you that question... Usually I've got a board in front of me, I've never done it like this and I sort of had to do a little bit of mental gymnastics to get there and then now I understand the concept of the game and now I'd like to play a game.

01:10:57 Speaker_14
Okay, well now I'm thinking of someone.

01:10:59 Speaker_04
And I've got to ask questions?

01:11:00 Speaker_14
Yeah. Yeah.

01:11:02 Speaker_04
Oh, but this is mean. No. Because I don't know you.

01:11:05 Speaker_14
You can't hurt their feelings, these guys.

01:11:07 Speaker_04
Or mine.

01:11:07 Speaker_14
I'm thinking of one of you three.

01:11:09 Speaker_04
So wait, I... No, hang on. I've got to do the mental gymnastics again. You're thinking of someone... Yeah.

01:11:13 Speaker_13
See, now you're getting annoyed, but you were the one who tried to... No, I know, but this is the problem with games.

01:11:17 Speaker_04
I am very competitive and I'm annoyed at myself because I haven't immediately grasped the rules of the game that I came up with. You see what I mean?

01:11:24 Speaker_14
Yeah.

01:11:24 Speaker_04
Oh, I see what you mean. I'm getting very annoyed.

01:11:26 Speaker_14
I'm thinking of someone in this room. I'm thinking of someone in this room, but you have to ask me a question. I have to guess who you're thinking of. Yeah, and it has to apply to their vibe. Yeah. Or your imagined history of them.

01:11:36 Speaker_04
Oh, yeah, true. Is your person, yeah, look like they could be like, are they like a live action animated? They look like they're an animated cartoon character. Do they look like they're the face of a cartoon?

01:11:47 Speaker_13
Uh, yeah.

01:11:49 Speaker_04
Sorry, just having a look.

01:11:52 Speaker_13
Just look straight at me, by the way.

01:11:54 Speaker_04
No, I'm allowed to move my eyes now.

01:11:56 Speaker_13
I'm allowed to look at everyone.

01:11:58 Speaker_04
I'm allowed to look at everyone, so I'm really taking advantage of that moment. It's funny because actually now everyone looks a bit animated.

01:12:03 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah.

01:12:03 Speaker_04
Do you look like you could be like a Scottish White Walker from Game of Thrones? Wow.

01:12:10 Speaker_14
I have not seen Game of Thrones, but I'm going to say yes.

01:12:13 Speaker_04
Are you Ben?

01:12:14 Speaker_14
Yes.

01:12:14 Speaker_04
You don't look like a white walker, by the way. It's just because you've got blue eyes. It was the only thing I could think of.

01:12:18 Speaker_13
Yeah, you could be... It's literally just the blue eyes. Yeah, yeah.

01:12:22 Speaker_04
I also don't know where Scottish came from. I think it's because you've got a bit of stubble, and in my head that's like stubble equals Scottish. I don't know why. It's a weird connotation.

01:12:31 Speaker_13
Yeah, it's weird. So you're learning about yourself in this game as well. Yeah, good game.

01:12:35 Speaker_04
Yeah, unfortunately. I'm not learning good things about myself.

01:12:37 Speaker_13
This is how we like to come towards the end of the podcast.

01:12:40 Speaker_04
We've been talking for a hundred years.

01:12:44 Speaker_13
That's what we like. We like people to feel like it's been a hundred years and for them to go... At the end of it. Yeah, yeah.

01:12:51 Speaker_04
No, I've had a great chat. This has been really fun.

01:12:53 Speaker_14
Do you want to play another round before I read you the menu?

01:12:55 Speaker_04
Yeah, go on. But should we let someone else have a go?

01:12:57 Speaker_14
Yeah, Ed, think of someone. Okay. Do you want to ask Ed?

01:13:01 Speaker_04
I feel like all of us should ask questions. Are you not allowed to speak?

01:13:04 Speaker_14
Ben's not allowed to speak. Me and you can take turns asking Ed a question.

01:13:07 Speaker_04
Okay. Do you want to go first? Should I go first? There we go, there's the sound again. That's my thinking sound. Do you look like you were bullied as a child?

01:13:22 Speaker_14
I mean... Does that mean all my questions are really mean and I can't... No, it's fine, but bearing in mind that what you're trying to narrow this down to is between the three of us.

01:13:31 Speaker_14
You were not narrowing it down very, I mean... Can I get rid of that question?

01:13:35 Speaker_13
You have to force people to come to your birthday and stuff then.

01:13:37 Speaker_04
I know. It's literally no wonder I had no friends. I was actually just a bully. I was a bully. I wasn't bullied. I was the bully. No one wanted to hang out with me. I was so mean.

01:13:44 Speaker_13
You can throw that question out and start.

01:13:46 Speaker_04
I'm gonna throw that question out. Can you go? I'm panicking a bit.

01:13:48 Speaker_14
Yeah. Did the person you're thinking of once shit themselves and then puke all over their date? Yes. Is it Ella? Yes. I'm gonna read your menu back to you now, see how you feel about it. Did you write that down the whole time? You would like tap water.

01:14:02 Speaker_14
Pop it onto bread, you want warm sourdough with marmite butter from Heaney's in Cardiff. Starter, you would like pork soup dumplings from Joe Shanghai in New York. Main course, you want the Spy Kids burger, but like from how you remember it.

01:14:19 Speaker_14
Side dish, you want a concept of salad and cheap supermarket prawn crackers. Drink Diet Coke and dessert, donuts from Adventure Island in Southend-on-Sea.

01:14:28 Speaker_04
Yeah, that sounds like a lovely menu. Yeah, you happy with that? Yeah, I am really happy with that.

01:14:33 Speaker_14
We haven't even talked about you and all your mates eating each other on the island. This is a food podcast.

01:14:37 Speaker_04
I think seeing as we just talked about a bunch of school kids going to Adventure Island, we might need to just clarify that that's not what you're referring to, question mark?

01:14:46 Speaker_14
No, I'm not referring to that, I'm referring to you and your friends, all eight, with the plane crash.

01:14:50 Speaker_04
Yellow Jackets.

01:14:51 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah, the TV show.

01:14:54 Speaker_13
I'd say lead with Yellow Jackets TV show. You buried it in the headline there. They all ate each other. Not you and all your friends ate each other on an island.

01:15:03 Speaker_04
We've never had Adventure Island when you took all your friends to Adventure Island, you gave them the donuts and then you ate them all. Only one child returned back to London that day. And happy birthday me. Yeah, Yellow Jackets.

01:15:16 Speaker_14
That's messed up.

01:15:17 Speaker_04
That is really messed up.

01:15:17 Speaker_14
We've never had anyone on the podcast before who's been that heavily involved in cannibalism and this is a food podcast.

01:15:23 Speaker_04
I know. It's a bit of a thing. I'm going to get a reputation because it's happened in two shows I've done, that one and Fallout. Yeah, people are starting to talk.

01:15:32 Speaker_13
It's not good. But it's always in a situation where it gets a bit desperate, right?

01:15:36 Speaker_04
I'd hope so.

01:15:38 Speaker_13
You've never been in a show where you're like, oh, I'm hungry. I'll just eat a

01:15:40 Speaker_04
No. Well, in Fallout, I don't eat anyone, but the ghoul does eat other ghouls, sometimes humans, I think. Actually, I don't think he does eat humans. He makes arse jerky out of another ghoul's bum, obviously.

01:15:57 Speaker_04
He wouldn't make it out of his elbow, would he? Silly.

01:16:00 Speaker_14
Well, if you don't know your arse from your elbow. Wow. Best in the biz. He's the best in the biz. Quick question before we go then. You've got to eat another actor who you've worked with in the past. Just who's it going to be?

01:16:16 Speaker_14
It has to be someone you've worked with.

01:16:17 Speaker_04
That's a really good question, because are you going to go for... What's the context? What's the circumstances? You've got to eat them. I've got to eat them because I'm desperate, because I'm very, very hungry.

01:16:26 Speaker_04
Or you've got a gun to my head and you're like, you've got to eat them now, but I'm not that hungry. How hungry am I?

01:16:31 Speaker_14
You're very, very hungry.

01:16:32 Speaker_04
I'm very, very hungry. Am I starving? Am I on like, is it a yellow jacket situation?

01:16:35 Speaker_14
It's a yellow jacket situation.

01:16:37 Speaker_04
So I want someone with like big muscles, right? Because then that's like more protein probably. Who's the most muscular actor I've worked with? The guy that I threw up on was pretty muscly. He's not an actor that I work with.

01:16:50 Speaker_04
But he is someone that I know that's got muscles. I'd probably eat him. Or Aaron from Fallout. He's been working out a bit lately. I'll eat him.

01:17:01 Speaker_14
What's his surname?

01:17:02 Speaker_04
Moten, Aaron Moten.

01:17:03 Speaker_14
I'm Moten, you're getting eaten.

01:17:05 Speaker_04
Yeah, sorry Aaron, he's a lovely guy.

01:17:07 Speaker_14
That's a compliment, you just said he's muscly.

01:17:08 Speaker_04
Yeah. I did actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:09 Speaker_13
We're working out.

01:17:10 Speaker_04
Yeah, I forget that that's a compliment.

01:17:11 Speaker_13
But much to his detriment because now he's getting eaten. The more you work out, the more likely you are to be eaten. That's the mole of the podcast. Wow. Didn't expect it to end like that, but thank you so much for coming to the Dream Restaurant, Alice.

01:17:22 Speaker_13
Thank you guys so much for having me.

01:17:24 Speaker_02
So nice to meet you.

01:17:29 Speaker_13
There we are. Wow. What an app. Wow. What an app. What a chat. Twist and turns. She's so much fun. I loved that.

01:17:37 Speaker_14
Yeah. I mean, it's nice to have the memory of a food on the menu, especially when, but it was sad to show her that it wasn't what she remembered it.

01:17:47 Speaker_13
But that's memory for you. It was sad though, had to put someone through that. Yeah, hopefully she can forget about that and go back to her original memory. Which is like the platonic ideal of a burger from Spy Kids.

01:18:01 Speaker_14
Yeah, yeah, hopefully. That is her dream meal. Didn't say Nuka-Cola though, so that's good.

01:18:06 Speaker_13
Said Diet Coke, went with the traditional Diet Coke rather than Nuka-Cola. We could have pushed it.

01:18:11 Speaker_14
Yeah. So the listeners might have a go at us for that. We got sidetracked with the vomit story, and Benito did say to us, maybe talk more about Diet Coke, and maybe that's where he was heading.

01:18:21 Speaker_13
But that's unfair, I think, to push people into the secret ingredient, I think is unfair. I think it's unfair.

01:18:27 Speaker_14
But maybe people were like, well, you didn't get a brand. What if she meant Diet Nuka Cola?

01:18:33 Speaker_13
She said Diet Coke, which is the brand, right? So I think we've got to accept that. But also then we wouldn't have heard about the doughnuts.

01:18:42 Speaker_13
Exactly, we wouldn't have heard about those lovely doughnuts, and we wouldn't be able to say, watch Sweet Pea everyone, it's on Sky!

01:18:49 Speaker_13
Yes, watch Sweet Pea, it's on Sky, and now it comes out on October 10th, that is tomorrow if you're listening, to this on the day that it's released, but otherwise it is out now on Now and Sky. I'm gonna watch it, I'm excited.

01:18:59 Speaker_13
I'm gonna watch it, I'm excited. I am currently on tour, doing my show Hot Diggity Dog until the end of November. Come along, going to loads of different places. If you live in London, I'm doing the London Palladium on November 23rd.

01:19:11 Speaker_13
I'm also in Manchester, well Salford, next year, January 19th and 20th, at the Salford Lowry, filming some shows. That's exciting, filming the shows. So come along.

01:19:23 Speaker_14
Not much news over here. I guess I'm going to go home and try and lift a bowl of cereal just to prove some people wrong. But that's about it.

01:19:33 Speaker_13
Yeah. Thank you for listening to the Off Menu Podcast. Goodbye.

01:19:36 Speaker_02
Goodbye.

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01:21:32 Speaker_05
Hello, my name's Sarah Pascoe. Guess what? I've been on Off Menu a while back. Can't remember what I said. Vegan butter, I think. Anyway, I'm now going on tour with a new show. It's called I Am a Strange Gloop. The tour starts in June 2025.

01:21:46 Speaker_05
Come and join me. I might talk about food, if that's what you need. Bread or poppadoms, I'll shout. Stealing content of Off Menu. I will probably talk about other things as well, and I might not shout bread or poppadoms.

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