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Episode: Chloe Fineman x Gwyneth Paltrow: Mastering Impressions, Being Multi-Dimensional, and Embracing the Unexpected

Author: Goop, Inc. and Audacy
Duration: 00:43:27

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Women in comedy have always existed, but there was a renaissance maybe 10 years ago. After Bridesmaids came out, "I remember being like, 'I didn't know we could do that,'" says Chloe Fineman. In this special episode of The goop Podcast sponsored by Polestar, Gwyneth and the SNL mainstay explore

their familial roots, being multi-dimensional as both women and performers, the art of impressions, and more for an inspiring conversation on creativity, ambition, and finding your path. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized. You do? Yeah. Did you hear about that? I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected, and we made it the one.

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In a sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.

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Nothing in itself is addictive on the one hand. On the other hand, everything could be addictive if there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled.

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I now know that nobody changes until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.

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I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is The Goop Podcast. Bringing together thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start conversations.

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Because simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world. Here we go. Hi everyone, and welcome to The Goop Podcast. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, and today I'm catching up with the insanely talented Chloe Fineman.

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You know her from her spot on impressions and hilarious sketches on Saturday Night Live. But today we're diving into Chloe's journey into comedy, the magic and madness of SNL, and the wellness rituals that keep her grounded.

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With both of our hectic schedules, we're squeezing in this conversation on the go as I drive her to rehearsals at 30 Rock in New York. So let's get into it. Hey, Google, take us to Rockefeller Center. Sure. Rockefeller Center. OK.

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OK. Oh, and just a little bit of traffic.

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You are on the fastest route, despite heavier than usual traffic. You should reach your destination by 1.32 PM.

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How many years have you been on SNL now this is my 6 year 6 year, yeah, it feels like it went by really fast, but also because we had covid for a lot of that of course, yeah, it's an absolutely insane. I'm like a senior how did you get the job.

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Gosh, I was in LA doing groundlings. Yeah, and deeper than that I Was single and was using Instagram to like attract men and I wanted to date someone funny So I was like putting out a lot of like weird

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stuff because I didn't want to do tinder and then like good strategy yeah I was like I'll find the right person and so started doing that and then like found out I could do impressions and then it's sort of like snowballed wait you didn't know you could do impressions before you started trying to pick up men

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In your whole life? I could do like, like a Hebrew school teacher. That was like... What's that one? A weird Hungarian rabbi that my friend, he was like, talk like this.

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And he was like, he'd take us and get to the mouth and like we are... Like, so my friends all like made fun of teachers and stuff. And then it snowballed. Yeah, because I got into comedy like really late in life. How late? Like 27.

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That's so inspiring. Hey, thanks. It is because I hear like so many women are like, I don't know, I don't know, you know, and I want to follow a dream and I don't know if I should.

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Yeah. What's your feeling? Well, I feel like I literally went here. I went to NYU right here and did classical theater and thought I would be like an indie drama girl. And then it just like, it wasn't fun.

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And then I also feel like women in comedy have always existed, but there was sort of like a renaissance. I don't know, maybe like 10 years ago when I... With who? Like, who were you looking at?

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Well, I always, like, worshipped Margaret Cho, but I feel like after Bridesmaids came out, like, I remember seeing that in the theater and being like, I didn't know we could do that. Oh. And, yeah, it was, like, amazing.

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And then, you know, like, Amy Schumer and Kristen and, like, Ali Wong stand-up specials. Like, women were, like, dirty and special. Yeah.

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So what was the first impression that you did where you thought, oh, this is like, was it on Instagram? Because I remember during COVID, I found you on and you got me through COVID with those impressions on Instagram.

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You commenting got me through COVID. My best friend and I were like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

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So what was the what was the one that sort of cracked it open. I really feel like it was probably to bear more.

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Yeah, that one is a class that's an easy one being from California. She sounds a lot like a lot of my friends like. We're those girls except like you just like on the left there you go.

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How do you study, like, what is, I don't think I can do impressions, I've never really tried, but like, what is the technical breakdown of how you do, ooh, Leon's Bagel is very popular today. Oh yeah, super. How do you break it down technically?

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Or is it just the ear?

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I think it's both. I think I got lucky in drama school voice and speech class where for four years, three days a week, you'd have somebody correct people's bad way of talking.

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I don't know, I got really used to looking at someone's mouth and how they tighten their lips or what they do. The mouth is, I think, the secret sauce.

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That's so interesting that you say that, not to interrupt. No, please. Because when I went to go do my first movie with an English accent, I was like 22.

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Emma?

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Emma, yes. Thank you for this. Of course. Thank you. Oh, yeah. And everyone was like, oh my god, this American girl is going to play our English heroine. And they were all bent out of shape. And I was like, shit, I really better

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figure out how to do this accent and it was all about mouth muscles like I thought it was going to imitate the sounds.

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But then my my voice coach Barbara Barker he was like no no you've got to relearn how the mouth goes in this town on this and where you sort of you know sort of let the jewel that all that kind of yeah.

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And that and so it was like a workout my my mouth would be like exhausted after a day which really only happens, you know one other time in life.

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Yeah, neck and jaw and all of those things. No, but it's really true. It's like, is there voice forward or head voice, chat, all that silly technical stuff that I was like, why did I go to school for this? This is crazy.

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And then it's the fun of watching interviews forever and ever. Oh, right. So you study the person? Yeah. And I think it's just like finding what you think is funny right.

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So who what is there one that you haven't done that you are studying currently, I mean use you've definitely been really have to crack oh my God, yeah, can you do it, I not yet like.

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It's very like love. It's very nasal though, I hate my voice. I have a really nasally voice.

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Honestly, I have a nasally voice and I think if someone is similar, like a cousin to me, not that we sound similar, but in my head I'm like I have to do a lot of

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guesswork here in my mind you have like a state you like speak very properly like your vowels are good. Okay, you have a New York thing so you'll be like and they're like love. I love. How do you say in California like love. Maybe.

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Like, I say, like, and? A little bit. Or how do you say love? Like, I love this, I love that. I love. Yeah, you have like a love. Love, right. You really like, it's like in your mouth. It's like all I have.

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We almost did you last year on the show and it didn't make it and I'm glad.

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Darn it. I live for the day that you do me on Saturday Night Live. It's happening. What would the context be? of what it would be.

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It was something like, it was like yoni, vagi. Yeah, can't escape the yoni and the vagi. But I love that, that's what I love. That's so funny.

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Yeah. Can you teach me how to do one? An impression? Yeah. Who do you want to, I don't know, who are your

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Let's see, you do Drew, you do Nicole Kidman, you do... Nicole's very like... Like soft and like intimate. Drew you could do.

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I don't know if I can.

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It's like, say like, like. Can't do it you can say like like yeah, I'm like oh My god, so it's like oh oh Yeah, so it's like you there you go. Oh my God. Oh. My. God. Yeah. And then you lisp, like lisp it.

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It's so good.

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Very like expressive. It's so good.

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I love it. It's so funny. So you didn't grow up like with a ton of comedy in the House, what my dad is really really fun.

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Yes, yeah, he's crazy what did he what was his job. He is retired now he's 81 wow yeah, yeah, how old are you I'm 36 wow so he had a dad old dad, okay, yeah, my sister when he was 23 and then had me a 45. I feel like a big age difference. All right.

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Oh yeah, we're good. Was it two different ladies? Okay. Yeah, so his ex-wife is a hippie and my sister grew up in a commune in Mendocino. Oh wow. So we're like jubu hippie-do. I love it. That's so funny. So that's where I got like all my like

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well-organic, like we're very that. That's so good. We have that in common. So you guys laughed a lot in the house? Totally. And he was really into improv when I was little. No way! Yeah.

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So this makes total sense.

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It totally does. He and my mom go to improv every Saturday still. Do they get up and do it? Huh? Oh my God! Yeah. Every Saturday in San Francisco. I bet that's going to keep him alive forever. It will. He like,

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He was a little sick over the summer, and then it was like, if I can just get back to improv. Oh my God, that's so sweet. I'm probably going to have to go on Saturday. To improv? When you go home for Thanksgiving? Because it makes him so happy.

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I know, but you're so famous. They can't put you on improv. I've been going to this class with my dad pre-SNL. What? It's really cute. Yeah, it's like they found friends late in life. Wow. Yeah. And my mom is a painter and she's like the WASP-y side.

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God, so we have the same vibe. We are the same. I know, not sure what you got, but we are WASP-Jew.

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We have the WASP-y mom and the Jew dad. It's a good combo, by the way. Yeah, how so? Go on. Well, I just think, you know, it's so crazily opposite. Yes.

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I mean, really people, I remember when my husband Brad, you know, cause first he obviously, he had met my mom and my, you know, my, you know how my mom and oh, and she's sort of so patrician with the voice and, you know, the manners and everything's wonderful and art and Mozart and Bill Evans and, you know, sort of like a cousin of Meryl Streep.

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And then he met my cousins from my dad's side. And they literally talk like that. Like, they're like, Gwynny! And he was like, okay, wow.

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And I just think it's a great mix because it's like, you have all of the warmth and like the, you know, delicious Jewish thing. And then you have kind of the waspy thing. And I don't know, I think it's a good taste.

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My dad's thing that I hate, but he has always said it is dress British, think Yiddish. Oh my god, that's so good! But it's kind of, you know, dapper. Yes. That's his, like, whole MO. Okay.

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I mean, that's so... Yeah. Did you grow up practicing both at all?

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I grew up... It was funny, like, we always, like, did both. And then when I was, like, in kindergarten, I met these girls in kindergarten. They were really funny and they were Jewish.

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And then I was like, well, I'll just go to Hebrew school so we can all hang out. So I grew up way more Jewish, but we do the Christmas and... You do both. Yeah, we do both.

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Yeah, you gotta. Yeah, I think, you know, yeah, like let's milk this for all its worth.

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right, yeah, you've done your big tree and it brings my mom a lot of joy.

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Yeah, my mom to I mean I think when I I'm older than you so I think it was still like when my parents got married it was still pretty.

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You know they got married in 1969 and it was really controversial really like nobody wanted them to marry each other. Whoa. They got married in, like, the oldest Episcopal church in the country. Where? The main line outside of Philadelphia. Oh, yeah.

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And my grandparents on my dad's side were really upset. Really? Yeah, really upset. Everybody was really upset. They did not want the interfaith. Do you hear, like, shiksa? Was that a thing? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she gets that's the best word.

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Yeah, I've never heard that. That's like a ticket for a Christian guy.

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Really?

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I shake it, shake it. That's so funny.

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I even have like my sister. I remember dating this guy and like my sister's way of saying that, like, he wasn't Jewish. She was like, he's really blonde. I was like, OK.

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in a gross way, yeah, but yeah, I mean my dad like very much like made my mom learn how to like cook and they're like certain things she had to like. do. Right. But never had to like convert. But she didn't convert. Yeah. No.

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My mom would never.

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Never. No. No.

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I think it's a lot. I think it is too. And I also think how great to also just respect both. A hundred percent.

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A hundred percent.

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Because there really are amazing things that you can bring from both worlds. And sometimes there are definitely some discordant things. Yeah. But sometimes, I don't know, I always feel like these opposites actually make can make a really interesting.

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Right 100% I've been the House.

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Yeah, really open broaden people's horizon.

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So you're like celebrating I'm always like cultural celebration. Yeah, yeah, a 100%. But did you have a bomb it's fun. Yeah, it was hot pink. I like it. I didn't have one because, well, my mom, you know, I don't know.

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been into it, but yeah, also my dad, I guess about mitzvah is like a relatively new thing. Oh yeah, so he said to me what are you 13 you're going to become a man.

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I guess I guess not my my bot mitzvah dreams were we can you can always still do it that's true you can in terms of partner.

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What's the deal do I have yeah, I have a boyfriend you have a boyfriend, yeah, we met at the groundlings weirdly. Long ago. six or seven years. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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So what's, what's happening here?

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I know. Do I need to call this guy? Possibly. I think so. I think so. You know, like we're not getting any younger. I think we're, we're too late bloomers. And so that's nice. Yeah.

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But I think like one should be the late bloomer and one should be like, yeah, let's go.

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And how, like, do you plan to be on SNL for a lot longer? How does it work? Like, how do people decide?

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I don't know. I mean, I think you have, like, a seven-year contract. I'm really happy to be a part of the 50th. It feels really, like, magical. And, like, every week you're like, oh, my God, I'm acting with Dana Carvey. This is insane.

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But, yeah, I mean, I think I really like movies and I have, like, a darker side to myself. Oh, that's fun. Yeah.

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That sounds really fun.

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Yeah. You're so inspiring to me because you're like, women can be more than one thing. Thank you. And I feel like that's rare. And even still, it's hard. Like, even in comedy, it's like, yeah, you can go do this. You can have a company.

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You can... Like, when did you reach that moment where you were like, I want more?

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I think it was a... I think really, like, what happened was I really burnt out on movies. Yeah. And...

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I had just done so many nonstop and I was sort of it going at this like breakneck pace and and then when I had my daughter I was like OK fuck that's like I don't want to do this anymore and that but I I'm

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I feel like I'm such a creative and I had all these other interests. So I was like, okay, well maybe I'll just try this thing. And people thought I was really insane. I got so much shit for it.

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And I think people did not understand why I was pulling away from acting and why I was moving into this lifestyle space. But I do think, to your point, women are so multidimensional.

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we especially in chapters like we have all so much and we you know, it's really I think you know when you give yourself the space as a woman to kind of explore. Who you are and what else is out there.

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I think everything becomes so expansive so I guess it was kind of around one. I had my my kids and I I didn't want to like you know be and just this one to pass like making a movie by you know, yeah, I just couldn't. I don't know.

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but I think that you should absolutely take that time and go right.

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Yeah, I mean SNL I think I think people stay as long as they can like physically and or I'm a morning person so I feel like that's like inherently it's hard. A couple times, yeah.

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And I mean, the adrenaline and like hours is really, I don't know how you guys do that week after week.

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I don't, I think it's your adrenaline. It's not like the healthiest job in the world.

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Right.

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I'm like, when do I exercise? You know, like there's like, right. When you wake up for a 9.30 clock, you're like, oh, is it better to sleep usually? Right. But yeah, it's really delightful.

00:19:40 Speaker_03
But it is a thing where you're like, I want to do more creative things. Like my sister's a painter. And what does she do? She's like big oil paintings. Yeah, she lives in London. Who are her influences? Gosh, Danny Fox is a big influence. Okay.

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Vanessa Bell.

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I don't know her.

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She was like, back in the day. Okay. Some other lady, I'm forgetting. But yeah, she's kind of all of, my mom was a, so we're, but all that to say is like, she's just always doing like nine million creative things. Right. Like furniture and this and that.

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And you're like, Because it all comes from the same wellspring, right? Yeah, totally. Totally. I think that's right. Even, like, beauty. You're like, why can't people just paint in all these different ways?

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So what would you want to do if you were going to start a business? Start a business?

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Yeah. I'd like to do something with my sister. We have like little collabs that we've sort of done a little. We did these actually with Sophie Ratner. Oh my God. Pimping her out. That's awesome.

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Yeah, but I think making like... With Sophie Ratner? Yeah. Her mother delivered my son. Are you serious? I swear. No way! Her mother delivered Moses Martin. No way! Yeah. I did not know that. I knew her mom delivered babies.

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Yeah.

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That's so cool.

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I know.

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And she came on Goop because my gynecologist called me and was like, my daughter's becoming a jewelry designer.

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That's so funny.

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Well, you look at her stuff and I was like, this is really good. That's Now there are a whole bunch of girls out there like obsessed with you and following you and is that what is that like for you.

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I really weird really really. Yeah, I think I like

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Well, I'll say like in on the one hand, I very if anyone is like, hey, I'm a fan or showing like love in any way, I really try and go out of my way to like support them because like Amy Schumer, Natasha Lyonne, Aubrey Plaza have been very like, oh, that's really.

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Yeah. And I think for women, that's so not rare, but like you, it's something I'll never forget is like people having your back. So if that comes about, I'm always like. Do you need help? I'm here.

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I mean, there's always going to be like 20 percent of me that's like a psychopath.

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That is not true.

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Like a competitive, jealous, crazy person. But 80 percent, I'm like, we have to like help each other. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah. Who's your favorite host that's come on or top few?

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Gosh, I will. OK, the top few. There's like two sections. One is like we have like Probably like five men, there's like one woman, so I always love them. Right, of course.

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Because I'm like, without fail, my stuff will get on and we'll get to do my sense of humor. Yes, exactly. Any women is like peak. When Kristen hosted, that was really special. Right. We did a Pilates sketch that me and my friend came up with. Oh, yes.

00:22:52 Speaker_03
That's so funny. Thank you. And the fact that she even wanted to do it, I was like, oh my god. That's so cool. Yeah, that one was epic. That was so funny. You know, Pedro hosting, I really loved. Ryan Gosling. And now you had this big hit with Domingo.

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I know. I mean who now isn't it weird how you never know you never gonna be never know because it was like low in the show address rehearsal and we're like.

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I mean I guess and then it just exploded did you write that I did not I was like he was one of those things where this sweetie guy Jimmy Fowley in these And Suti and Kira, these two other writers, just gave a gift to the women. Oh, that's so nice.

00:23:33 Speaker_03
And it's really fun when we get to do stuff as a big group together. You never forget that.

00:23:37 Speaker_04
I loved how Ariana Grande did that off-key singing, which is actually really hard to do. She is one of my favorite hosts. Yeah, she's incredible. Incredible. It's bananas. level of, I mean, talk about impressions. Yeah, yeah.

00:23:56 Speaker_03
You guys, that was so funny when you did that. She wanted to do that. Like I, you know, like when we pitched to you, the host in Lauren's office and stuff, like, I don't know how it's been.

00:24:07 Speaker_03
Like lately, it's like we all just kind of do a joke pitch and it's not like a real thing. And I was like, there's a Timothee Chalamet lookalikes. Maybe it's like a Coolidge soundalike. Like it wasn't anything I would write. And then she was like,

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We have to do it. And I was like, what? So I had like all this other stuff I was going to write and then we pivoted. To Jennifer Coolidge. Yeah.

00:24:27 Speaker_04
How do you do that impression?

00:24:28 Speaker_03
Just like, oh my gosh. Wow. But that was hard because her impression is like legally blonde Jennifer Coolidge and mine is white lotus Jennifer Coolidge.

00:24:40 Speaker_00
Oh, I didn't realize.

00:24:41 Speaker_03
Like watching her. Hers is very like, Wow, I don't know my eyes are trying to win was like smoker right. So it's like a weird exercise in trying to like match each other so fun. Yeah, so good.

00:24:58 Speaker_04
Oh my God, she's really special. Yeah, she's really incredible. I mean that's such a gift to be able to not only do impressions but saying impressions the way she does yeah bananas.

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Yeah, I'd say like of every table read we've had, that was the one where I was like, holy fucking, like, there's nothing this person can't do. Yeah, it's nuts. And they're like lovely. Oh, truly. You're like, yeah, I was, I don't know.

00:25:25 Speaker_03
I was like, you just never know with like a pop star.

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Yeah. Yeah.

00:25:28 Speaker_03
She didn't have like a crazy team of like a hundred people. She was like a real person. Yeah. Are there ever, like, A-holes that come up? Totally.

00:25:36 Speaker_04
Really? Oh my god, you have to tell me off.

00:25:39 Speaker_03
Well, yeah, yeah. No, there are.

00:25:41 Speaker_03
I mean, I think it's also like, it's like a weird thing where it's, someone said it's like you're throwing, like, a birthday party for someone, so you have, like, the emotions of, like, if someone threw you, like, a big surprise party.

00:25:55 Speaker_03
And so you're either, like, love it, or you're, like, kind of, like, a monster, and it brings out a lot of, like, neuroses for people. Wow. Yeah, not everybody. It's been pretty good, but I think there's just a few where you're like, oh my god. Yeah.

00:26:12 Speaker_04
Yeah, isn't that weird? Sometimes on movie sets, too, you're just like, what is your problem? How are you really going to behave like this? I've had a few. How do you not laugh?

00:26:31 Speaker_04
Because I'm really bad at that, especially when I do scenes with Robert Downey, and he'll do something so weird and unexpected, and I can't, I can't, it's like I can't.

00:26:44 Speaker_03
How do you, is there a trick? Film stuff, like when we're doing the pre-tape stuff, I'm really bad about breaking, and no one knows that. Okay. Because it's like, I don't know, it feels safer. There's something, spooky about a live audience.

00:27:00 Speaker_03
I think I've heard you notice that with people like people have been on the show longer feel more comfortable breaking I think like my first 3 years on the show you're like if I laugh I get fired right right now, yeah, you're like no actually it's like how people have fun with you right right, it's like a way more.

00:27:16 Speaker_03
But isn't it like.

00:27:18 Speaker_04
Like certain things, like Will Ferrell or whatever. Like one time I was on and I was like, I'm never gonna get, I'm not gonna make it. Like I'm really not gonna make it. And I did make it, but I almost didn't make it.

00:27:32 Speaker_04
And it's like, it's like the funeral giggles. Like, cause you know, it's, and you're like, I, my body has hijacked me completely and I can't. Sometimes I bite my,

00:27:42 Speaker_03
Lip. I feel like I gotta get better about breaking. No. But you do, like it's like, or like allowing yourself to like have, like Heidi broke last year and that was like the first time she'd ever broke on the show. What happened?

00:27:56 Speaker_03
It was this Beavis and Butthead sketch and everyone, it like exploded. It's like why this sketch worked so much. It's because like she can't stop laughing. Oh really? I gotta go watch it. Oh it's amazing. And I feel like it like freed her up.

00:28:10 Speaker_03
And she's in her seventh year, maybe.

00:28:12 Speaker_04
Wow.

00:28:13 Speaker_03
Yeah. It's just like people like to laugh. I think sometimes you like forget you're on a comedy show. Right. So like. Right, right, right. Like military about it.

00:28:22 Speaker_04
Right. I remember like back in the day, Mike Myers, I did a movie with him and his impression of Lauren was so good. Do you guys all do that?

00:28:33 Speaker_03
Yeah. This is great. Weirdly, like, I did Martha Stewart, like, our last show. Oh, how do you do that? I was like, I'm basically doing, like, woman Lauren. It was just like, it was her, like, it's wonderful.

00:28:51 Speaker_03
And it's very, and I was like, oh, they're very similar. That's good. And she kind of articulates. I know I'm doing Lorne Martha, but I was like, they must, they're clearly friends. They talk so similarly to me. Oh, my God.

00:29:06 Speaker_03
Have you seen her Netflix documentary?

00:29:07 Speaker_04
Yes, I just saw it.

00:29:08 Speaker_03
Incredible.

00:29:09 Speaker_04
It was so good.

00:29:10 Speaker_03
And she was like, I was 40 and gorgeous. I was like, you are so funny. And yeah, you're right.

00:29:17 Speaker_04
And she admits to like banging some other guy.

00:29:20 Speaker_03
It was a wonderful Irishman.

00:29:23 Speaker_04
It was so good.

00:29:26 Speaker_03
And then I was like, it's not an affair, it was the Duomo. It was romantic. She was so perfect. Oh my god.

00:29:33 Speaker_04
Yeah, she just made out with some guy. Yeah, she was totally legendary in that thing.

00:29:38 Speaker_03
Do you think your mom was formed by her at all?

00:29:43 Speaker_04
No, my mom isn't domestic like that. So where do you get it?

00:29:48 Speaker_03
Did you get it from your dad? Yeah, I got it from my dad.

00:29:51 Speaker_04
Cooking. Yeah. My mom is actually a really good cook. She just doesn't like it, and it really stresses her out. So it's kind of not worth it, you know? But my dad was like, you know, he always grilled and made stuff. And then we kind of learned together.

00:30:08 Speaker_04
So when I was probably like 18 is when I really started like we would be in the kitchen next to each other.

00:30:16 Speaker_04
And then he would call me and he'd be like you know, he's to watch the food network on and be like can you believe that they you know make salad dressing like this is unbelievable. What's the tap like with like like shaking.

00:30:31 Speaker_02
Yeah, like in a in a jar.

00:30:36 Speaker_04
I think it was more that my dad was so like he loved us so much and just wanted to express it every conceivable way. So like food was another way to do that, you know what I mean? Do you cook?

00:30:53 Speaker_03
No, not enough. I'll cook a Japanese sweet potato. My mom is like domestic goddess. Yeah, she bought your cookbook right away. Thank you made a lot of it thanks burgers, healthy salads all of it, yeah, he's the real deal.

00:31:11 Speaker_03
But I feel like I like PTSD watching the Martha doc when she was like like why would you could an orange with a small not like that's my mom. My mom's a lot nicer. Yeah, that was something.

00:31:24 Speaker_03
Yeah, but like cooking, she's very like, no, cube it, Chloe, cubes, cubes. So I kind of like let her and my sister do it.

00:31:33 Speaker_04
My husband accuses me of that too, because I'll be like, oh, do you mind helping me chop this? And I'm like, not like that.

00:31:38 Speaker_03
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:39 Speaker_04
Like, who would even think to cut an onion like that?

00:31:41 Speaker_03
No, that's my mom.

00:31:42 Speaker_04
And then he's like, are you OK? It's an eggplant.

00:31:45 Speaker_03
Eggplant. No, it's the eggplant.

00:31:48 Speaker_04
And then I'm like, wow, I'm a real... I don't think my standards are as high as Martha's because who can frost a cake like that? I know. No one's as high as hers. I'm also a terrible baker. Like, I'm a really bad baker.

00:32:04 Speaker_03
Because it's accuracy. Like, I like, yeah, I like, like throw Japanese sweet potato, like let it caramelize, like oven, long time, good. But measuring stuff, I'm like, absolutely not. Terrible. Yeah.

00:32:26 Speaker_04
If you were going to learn how to do something, what would you do?

00:32:29 Speaker_03
if I was going to learn how to do it. I can't sing, so that would be up there. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm like tone deaf. No way, that's impossible. Yeah, I'm the worst singer. No way. No, I swear to God. That can't be. This is true story.

00:32:41 Speaker_03
If I've ever had to sing on this show, I know I'll like come out, we'll be on the stage, and then I see three women in like sparkly blazers and they go in the booth and sing over me. Wait, what? How is your ear that good and you can't sing?

00:32:55 Speaker_03
I can't, I'm tone deaf.

00:32:58 Speaker_04
Really? This totally blows my theory about accents.

00:33:01 Speaker_03
Yeah. Even for me to sing as Timothee Chalamet a couple weeks ago, and it's all these beautiful singers, and then I'm like, ah! There's just a disconnect.

00:33:12 Speaker_04
But you do a good Timothee Chalamet impression. Sure, I do that, yeah. But not the singing part.

00:33:17 Speaker_03
I couldn't. It's trying to sing as him. I was like, oh my god, this is like my nightmare. How do you do that impression? Just like, I think it was like, the way he would be like, New York, like growing up in New York, I'm an actor.

00:33:29 Speaker_03
And then just like laugh, like, ha ha. because he's kind of like awkward. He's like the most serious like he's he's got like a cool dichotomy to me. Yeah he's like boyish like awkward kid and then just like serious like driven actor man.

00:33:47 Speaker_03
He's a really good actor.

00:33:48 Speaker_04
He's amazing. I was really impressed with him I have to say. I didn't know what to expect you know because sometimes These like young dudes, you're like, let's see if you live up to the hype. But wow, he really did. And then some.

00:34:03 Speaker_04
Cigarettes, I haven't seen cigarettes for sale in forever.

00:34:06 Speaker_03
Right around when Goop started, you were spinach and cigarette. What was your quote? Oh, yeah. You're like, I'll have the spinach, but I'll have the cigarette.

00:34:17 Speaker_04
Yeah, I used to smoke one cigarette a week. And then it went down to like, one a month or one at a party, then I went to one at a party, and then I was like, I just, I'm not doing this anymore. Well, you justified me smoking all throughout college.

00:34:30 Speaker_04
Great, well, feather in my cap. Do you have wellness routines? Are you into that? Totally. Or now that all the macrobotics have closed.

00:34:41 Speaker_03
No, I know. Well, it's kind of funny, like, and I felt like this when I was in LA for like this past week. I feel like my wellness journey got really healthier when I came to New York, because you don't think about it as much.

00:34:55 Speaker_03
I feel like LA, I'm in my car all the time, and I would be like, I have to restrict that elimination diet life and exercise. And then New York, you just kind of eat pizza and walk around, and you lose like 10 pounds. I think it's great.

00:35:12 Speaker_04
I've been in New York again all fall. God, I really loved being here and I love walking around and I feel like I feel like I'm kind of in my 20's again, yes, it's like. You know once the kids leave and you're like wait a minute.

00:35:30 Speaker_04
I I have like needs and a personality. Yeah, I'm just guess I'll be in New York. It's been it's been really yeah, there's like a

00:35:39 Speaker_03
I don't know, like an energy to it. I do wish I would be like better during the show of like, not as much like candy and stuff. And I do Tracy, I love Tracy. Oh, isn't it great? It's the best.

00:35:54 Speaker_04
I love Tracy. I feel like it's the only thing keeping like my ass from hanging on the back of my knees. Yeah. She's just figured it out. Here you are at Rock 30 Rock. Here we go. Before you go, we're going to have a spa moment together.

00:36:10 Speaker_04
On the side of your seat, press the button in the middle. Massage, massage, start, start. Oh my gosh. Oh my god. OK, here's your Thera mask. Ooh. Your Thera body.

00:36:24 Speaker_02
Oh, this is great.

00:36:24 Speaker_04
Because you're going to work all night. Ooh. Look, Lima laser. Yeah, it's like red light. Oh wow, this is good. We're really gooping it up in here, guys. We're really gooping it up. This massagers re yeah.

00:36:42 Speaker_04
Do you know pollster has a breathing meditation app they do say Gwyneth Paltrow is dropping off and on a normal a totally normal now and and in a poll star and you need to just chill before you go break the Internet with Ariana Grande and then you can listen to the breathing app.

00:37:02 Speaker_04
Oh, wow. And get a massage. I'm actually really relaxed. This was like such an extreme pleasure. I've been your fan for so long. I've been your fan forever, ever. I mean, you're so talented and so lovely. And this was so nice of you.

00:37:18 Speaker_04
Thank you for letting me take you to work. What time am I picking you up?

00:37:21 Speaker_03
You're picking four in the morning. Like, actually.

00:37:31 Speaker_04
Thank you so much for tuning in to this special episode of The Goop Podcast.

00:37:35 Speaker_04
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00:37:45 Speaker_04
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00:37:59 Speaker_04
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