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Episode: A D.C. Hail Mary, the Coma Jets, Jameis Hero Ball, Freddie’s Slam, and Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

Author: The Ringer
Duration: 01:45:34

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The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal to discuss the Cowboys falling to the 49ers, the Commanders' Hail Mary win vs. the Bears, and Jameis Winston and the Browns upsetting the Ravens (2:08). Next they ask, "Are the Jets done?" after their loss to the Patriots, discuss Buccaneers-Falcons,

identify the most up-in-the-air division, get into Colts-Texans, and more (21:47). Then they check in on their NFL futures bets and guess the lines for NFL Week 9 (46:29), discuss an exciting World Series (1:21:41), and close the show with Parent Corner (1:29:08). Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Cousin Sal Producer: Kyle Crichton The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We have a lot of NFL stuff to discuss. We're going to also talk about Yankees, Dodgers, and we're going to do Parent Corner, and obviously, Guess the Lions. It's all next. By the way, we did this live on YouTube, which we do every Sunday night.

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Well, you're listening, so you're not seeing our faces, but you will be hearing the dulcet sounds of Pro Jam. All right. It's the bill Simmons podcast live on YouTube. Happy national tight ends day, Sal.

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Oh, you know, I, I didn't even know until they tell me that it's actual tight ends day.

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I mean, we just gotta take it, you gotta pay tribute to all these tight ends across America, high school, college, pro, yeah, it's actually literally National Tight Ends Day today.

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You hate the National Days, this was one of your rants a few weeks ago on Paraglider. I do, I do. This has to be the worst one of all.

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It is the worst. You know, it brings up, what do we do with Aaron Hernandez? Do we thank him? Do we wish his family a National Tight Ends Day? I don't know. I'm gonna start here, Sal. Teams under 500 through eight weeks.

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Oh good, maybe he'll forget about the Cowboys that just lost.

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Yeah, okay, keep going. The Cowboys. Under 500. Oh. The Bengals, the LA Rams, the Jets, the Browns, the Colts, and the Jaguars. Under 500, we are at eight weeks, which is almost the halfway point.

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We can't figure out the halfway point because it's a 17-week season, but just a super weird season in a lot of different ways. But what's out of those teams? Dallas, Cincinnati, Rams, Jets, Browns, Colts, Jags. Most surprising under 500 teams here.

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I think I had like six out of seven make the playoffs. I have to pick one. Yeah. My team, I have to say my team, I really thought we were gonna have 11 wins this year, and now there's a path that leads into the ocean right now.

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I don't, and I was gonna come on and be like, I don't care, we lost, whatever, I was gonna do that pouty seven-year-old thing. They sucked you in.

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They sucked you in with the comeback.

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They did, they sucked us in. They sucked me right back in, and I don't know what's going on with, I don't know our identity at all. I could not tell you. I don't think we could run the ball very good, but,

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You told me before the year, running backs didn't matter.

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I might have been wrong about that. Was that a bit? I might have misspoke. Yeah, let's chalk that up to a bit.

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I was trying to be funny. Who's Dalvin Cook this week? Who's next week? Is LaDainian Tomlinson, is he still retired? I'd kill for a penalty. Christian Akoye? Yeah.

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Who else?

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Anybody from the past? Priest Holmes?

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Yeah, Sean Alexander would be good. Oh, Sean Alexander would be fun.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. We were trying to figure out if Zeke plays for any other team. Like if he would have been able to forget about start, like would, would he be a backup? But it's just a disaster. And I think Collinsworth hit it.

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We like to make fun of him, but you know, Dak is not a threat. to run, and when he's not a threat to run, you know, you could play him like any other quarterback. It's not just, you know, isolated to him. There's a lot of the quarterbacks like that.

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Once you know you can take that part of the game out of there, you can kind of stifle them, but damn it.

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So you think that's the problem, that Dak's not a threat to run? Definitely one of them.

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He would take off three or four times. Um, we you know, we should have been at this one exactly opposite what I thought. I thought we were going to come out guns a-blazing after the bye because McCarthy actually has a good record after the bye.

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I thought we'd be ready. They would be pissed off. They have to show that Joe Montana thing at the start of every Cowboys 49ers game.

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Not enough players say it, but you know that they should be, you know, they just want to annihilate these guys and it turned out to be both teams kinda sucked, and then the Niners grinded us out, and then it was just too little, too late.

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Yeah, it's like one of those teams is a round one loser, and the other one's not a playoff team. Right, that's fair. Probably the Niners. The biggest loser of the day was Dwayne Wade, who had the worst statue of all time. Did you see it? I did.

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What did you think it looked like? I actually thought it looked like somebody who had emerged from a fire and lived. It was like Jim Carrey's fireman, whatever his fireman ed sketch.

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Can you imagine having a statue look that bad of yourself, like being unveiled? What would you even say? Uh, thanks? There's never been a worse sports statue ever. I mean, it got rightfully killed today.

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I don't even know, it was like Goyom or something, like who was it? It really looks like a freaky, like some kind of Lord of the Rings character or some shit. It's so funny.

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How many guesses would you have taken before you knew that was Dwayne Wade? You're like, hey, a famous athlete got a statue today. That would have taken me 700 guesses.

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I would have guessed Sam Cassell like 500 times first, and then I still would have been wrong. Well, so he's the most bummed out today. The second most bummed out is the Bears, who, what are we calling this? The Hail Maryland? What is this?

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Oh, that's, yeah. Yeah. I was trying to think of a name. don't know. What's that number 29 who's now famous for not being in the play until the last second?

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You know, he apologized on Twitter already, which I thought was a good move and is not going to take back the fact that his back was to the play. I've never seen anything like that. Did he think there was like five more minutes in the time?

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I'm going to do the podcast for the first seven minutes. Is that all right? And then you tell me when you're doing guess the lines and I'll turn.

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The funniest thing was he ran in and it looked like he got a hand on the, he was one of the many guys. I mean, there was five bears defending probably a yard of the field. And none of them, we've had all of this, we've million Hail Marys on YouTube.

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all this evidence of the most dangerous way this could go is if it gets tipped backwards and they have nobody in the end zone. It was like the kind of thing that happened when we were kids in like 1976.

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Like they would show in the beginning or like the Alcoa great finishes and we're like, oh man, can you believe they did that? It's 2024, it's impossible.

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Well, I think his guy was supposed to be Noah Brown. I don't know, maybe people are taking it too far, but I think he was supposed to shadow Noah Brown all the way down the field

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And then by the time he turns around, it's like, who the hell's Noah Brown? And then he's like, all right, I'll just go to this ball, and then you're right. Yeah, the one thing is, I don't know how much teams practice this.

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Do teams practice this on defense at all? At all. Like on offense, I could see, and then I guess there has to be a defense, but it's a second team, right?

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Yeah, there should be three people who are just told, stand on the goal line, don't budge, just stay there, don't let anyone go behind you. Our friend Kyle Brandt called it Noah's Ark. Pretty good. You like that, because Noah caught it?

00:10:30 Speaker_04
Yeah, yeah.

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I don't know. Maybe there's no thing. It was certainly one of the best Hail Mary's of all time. I still, what's your favorite Hail Mary other than, you can't count the Pearson and Staubach.

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What's your favorite?

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Because my favorite is still Flutie. The fact that he threw it that far. It was still, there hadn't been that many yet. He overthrew basically everyone on the field. It was a famous game. I think it was a Friday.

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That was probably, people like the Cordell Stewart one was a good one.

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I think the foodie was Friday after Thanksgiving, is that right?

00:11:03 Speaker_02
Yeah, I think it was.

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Was that a thing? And that was his roommate, Willem was his roommate, so that was kinda cool. I'll tell you what, I didn't think that, I don't know that Jaden Daniels did the best job of getting that ball there.

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I kept yelling, I'm like, at some point he's gotta step up in the pocket, right? Like you can't just hang out by the 30, I guess he did a good job getting, creating enough time for all the receivers to get down there.

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But he was about three yards short. And then it was just nonsense. I mean, I can't kill him because it worked, but it was just tipped back flukishly.

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Well, I think he forgot that he had broken ribs or whatever he has. I think he can throw it further than that.

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There was a great Billy White Shoes Johnson one where it got tipped and he caught it on the three or four yard line and then he had to make a couple guys miss and beat somebody. That was probably my other favorite one. But this one,

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I mean, when you talk about, usually this happens with like shitty teams. This was a really important game. It's a potentially devastating loss for the Bears because the Bears are four and three now, but they're in that gauntlet of a division.

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It's going to take 10 wins to get the NFC anyway. And then you think about it for Washington where You know, they're 6-2, they have the Giants left, the Saints, Tennessee, they play your team twice.

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It's basically, like Daniels would really have to get hurt for like two months, I think, for them not to be a 10-win team. But the thing that I was shocked by was how good their defense was. Like they harassed Chicago for three and a half quarters.

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Swift finally broke like a 55 yard touchdown. And then Caleb got a little momentum, but they got a goal line stop on the fumble. And it just, it felt like their defense ran out of gas. But I continue to be impressed by Washington.

00:12:46 Speaker_05
We needed Chicago to win because we have that first to four bet, right? We have- Oh, the exact order of fan door bet. Yes, exact order of NFC North. We have Detroit, Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota.

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And we kind of would have been right there if they had won.

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We were congratulating each other when there was like 20 seconds left, which was a mistake in retrospect.

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Yes. And Washington is in my team's division. And yet I thought, That's crappy if Washington doesn't win this game. I feel like the right team won the game Ultimately, but I also feel like and they remember they flex this game. Yeah suspicious.

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You think that's a little suspicious. Oh The flex they flex it too late afternoon it felt like a week 18 game that the winner got the seven seed and

00:13:34 Speaker_02
Oh, like an NBC game, yeah.

00:13:35 Speaker_05
Yeah, but nobody wanted the seventh seed. It was just that much, you know, Washington was better. They had 140 more yards of offense. They had like six minutes more possession, but they couldn't put it away. And then they did.

00:13:48 Speaker_02
Yeah, because I was going to ask you, better win or worse loss. But I agree with you. I think the right team won the game. Like Washington should have put the game away. I'm not really positively sure why they didn't.

00:14:00 Speaker_02
And then it ended up working out for them anyway. But I thought they were the better team. And for the Bears, like, you know, awful loss, you let it get away. But it really would have been them stealing that game, it felt like.

00:14:13 Speaker_05
Yeah, that's a terrible way to end and everything, but you give it to the 609-pound lineman to score from the two-yard line, that was bad too. So you could point to a few things.

00:14:24 Speaker_02
They were two and 12 on third down. Yeah. But I mean, two huge brain farts, giving it to the lineman, that was stupid.

00:14:33 Speaker_05
I exaggerate, he might not be that heavy. If he's not that heavy, please tell him your apologies.

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And then the Hail Mary defense, I just don't think there's any excuse to ever give that up. And I know they have to practice that at some point, but you know. There was that, what was the one when Jacoby Myers threw it backwards?

00:14:53 Speaker_02
That's probably the dumbest thing any team's done this decade. When the Pats lost that game against the Raiders. It was a tie game, it was about to go into OT and they're somehow throwing it back.

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Well, here's the thing, they'll let any receiver be in front of them, right? You're making a wall, right? So if you're gonna let everybody be in front of them, you'd be dumb to let anybody behind you, right? Especially left unattended.

00:15:16 Speaker_05
And that's exactly what happened. I don't think they practice it, I really don't.

00:15:21 Speaker_02
Yeah, you're almost better off having all 11 guys in the end zone in like three levels and just doing it that way. We went this long, I didn't mean to save this for later, where the Washington fans were with the Dan Snyder era, really from

00:15:38 Speaker_02
I don't know, since they won the Super Bowl and it's been pretty rocky and we've talked about it a lot on this podcast and Washington fans like Dave Chang, Nathan Hubbard, House, obviously have talked about it a bunch.

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This was an unbelievable Washington football moment. I mean, this was like...

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you know, this has been such a feel-good season for them in so many different ways, with the number one reason being we don't have Dan Snyder anymore, this reviled owner, then they get this quarterback who's amazing, he's hurt, he might not play all week, he plays, we end up with this Hail Mary signature moment, and you think like, this is the kind of shit that happens to teams that might have a special season.

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I don't think they're gonna win the Super Bowl, but it's the kind of thing that happens when you're like, oh man,

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Washington's in round two, and I'm not actually surprised, because this happened, and this happened, and this happened, but I would say this is probably the most grateful fan base out of the 32, right?

00:16:33 Speaker_05
Well, for sure, yeah, yeah, just the turnaround, but our friend David Chang did text us when it happened, and he either said, I want to find it, did he say it was one of the top 10 happiest he's ever been, happiest moments he's ever had, or sports moment?

00:16:48 Speaker_02
No, he said it was the top 10 greatest moment of his life. Yeah. All right. So 10 greatest moments of his life. He's had two kids, so there's three. Wow. It's Jim Davis, Sal Varian. Two children, so there's three. I don't know.

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I don't know what the other seven are. He's had some luck at the craps table. I was going to say, there has to be a craps run. It has to be one of the six.

00:17:09 Speaker_05
When Washington broke the Ravens preseason win streak of like 15 games, he was pretty happy then. I don't know.

00:17:17 Speaker_02
Maybe trying Bianco's garden pizza, whatever that, summer garden pizza, that's probably number five.

00:17:22 Speaker_04
Right.

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Oh, Linsanity's definitely up there. I know for a fact that Linsanity's gotta be in top 10 for him. He does his, he loved that. Anyway, congrats to Chang, congrats to all the Watson fans. And while we're congratulating people,

00:17:39 Speaker_02
and not in the baby doll Dixon way, actual congratulations. Congratulations to the Browns fans. They're begging for a new quarterback for two months. And then Watson gets hurt.

00:17:52 Speaker_02
Jameis comes in, who you've been calling for Jameis I think every week since maybe week two. And he comes in, he throws for 334, three TDs, has a game-winning drive with 236 left, down one, and they end up scoring a TD. Has the classic just,

00:18:08 Speaker_02
Awful Jameis pass, just an absolute train wreck of a pass that the guy drops as part of the fourth quarter comeback, Kyle Hamilton. And then they win it, and now the Browns who are, we had crossed them off last week, and maybe they're not a cross-up.

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I don't even have to think anymore. We gotta keep them crossed. We said we have to keep them crossed.

00:18:26 Speaker_05
We agreed, we agreed. But I think you're right, and since you mentioned Babydoll, I think the fans are happy, but they're also probably like, We've all known that this team is better without Deshaun Watson.

00:18:39 Speaker_05
It's like a guy who comes back, he's like, I quit smoking, I can breathe again. Baby doll, we told you years ago this would happen. Why didn't you stop smoking, throw out the Marlboro Reds in 2006? It would have been so much better.

00:18:53 Speaker_05
But it's all about cutting bait, just knowing when. And everyone's so stubborn about when it's done.

00:18:59 Speaker_02
Well, the owner clearly, when we discussed it many weeks ago, I was thinking it's like, Both you and I have been married for a while. It's like when you're arguing with your wife about something, you know, she's like, my neck hurts.

00:19:11 Speaker_02
I think it's the pillow. You should get a new pillow. And then they don't. And like three weeks passed. Did you get a new pillow yet? No, no, I'm going to get one, but my neck hurts. It's like, you should get a new pillow.

00:19:20 Speaker_02
And then eight weeks later they get the new pillow and they're like, Oh my God, this pill is so much better. My neck doesn't hurt anymore. And you're just like, I fucking told you eight weeks ago to get a new pillow.

00:19:28 Speaker_06
Right.

00:19:28 Speaker_02
That's good. That's basically Jameis Winston. It's like, I fucking told you get a new quarterback.

00:19:33 Speaker_05
But from a financial perspective, let's say you had some interest financially, which the Browns do. They really want this to work out because they mortgage their future, everybody's future in the whole town, whatever.

00:19:44 Speaker_05
I might compare it to buying a house, right? And then the house has ghosts, and you're like, all right, I gotta put up with these ghosts. I don't wanna lose money reselling this house.

00:19:56 Speaker_02
No, that's a bad example.

00:19:57 Speaker_05
No, you gotta make, no, and then you're just terrorized by this ghost for months, you and your family, before you're like, all right, forget it. I'll take the $50,000 loss.

00:20:04 Speaker_02
Or you befriend the ghost. So that's the good version of the story, I think. Okay, yeah. It's fine. Cleveland was eight for 15 on third down. I think they had probably 15 first downs in the first five weeks of the season.

00:20:19 Speaker_02
They, all right, that's fine, we can't cross them off, but we gotta talk Baltimore. So their defense has allowed 21 passes of 25 plus yards. Eight weeks into the season. It's their eighth loss in the last two minutes where they had a lead since 2022.

00:20:40 Speaker_02
And what was interesting about this one was, Even with Jamis Winston, I felt like the Browns were going to at least get a field goal and win the game. Didn't you? And they got the ball back up down one with like two and a half minutes left.

00:20:51 Speaker_02
I was like, oh, they're going down. Like I wasn't afraid.

00:20:53 Speaker_02
I know the Ravens have had some injuries, a couple, two of their starting cornerbacks didn't play today, but I just had no doubt unless Winston threw a terrible pass, which he did and they dropped.

00:21:03 Speaker_02
But I, I would have been surprised that Baltimore stopped them.

00:21:06 Speaker_05
But listen, he threw three bad passes. He didn't throw 15, which is what Watson did all the time. And you're right, and back to the Ravens, what'd we say? They had given up 84 fourth quarter points in seven weeks, so now it's 93 in eight weeks.

00:21:22 Speaker_05
That's too many, Bill. That's way too many. Yeah, I think it's too many. They may have enough offensive weapons to keep up and win 10 or 11 games like that, but that's gonna kill them in January, absolutely.

00:21:35 Speaker_02
Well, it turns out Jameis Winston is better at quarterback than Deshaun Watson. That's one of our big lessons. Cross-off teams, so we're keeping Cleveland, I guess.

00:21:45 Speaker_02
Pats, Carolina, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Miami and the Jets, Giants, and we're adding New Orleans this week, so somehow we're at 10 cross-off teams in eight weeks, which I think is aggressive, but I don't think any of those teams make the playoffs.

00:22:01 Speaker_05
No, it's fine, but if we did it the other way, I don't know if we would be able to pick.

00:22:06 Speaker_02
Be able to come up with 10 teams.

00:22:07 Speaker_05
Right, yeah, I don't think we could. But that's good, yeah, I think you're right. I mean, the Saints, some of these teams are unbearable to watch.

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00:24:31 Speaker_02
They're two and six, is this it? We're done, are we done with the Jets? They would have to go... 8-1? Yeah. Unless you think 9-8 can make it in the AFC, which is possible, but even that 7-2, Rodgers is 7-14 in his last 21 start to finish starts. Right.

00:24:57 Speaker_02
I don't see it. I think they're done.

00:25:00 Speaker_05
Oh, I think they're done too. And I don't know why we're comparing them to, I don't even know why Aaron Rodgers is a factor.

00:25:06 Speaker_05
You got to take a look at this offense and going into today, they had scored two points more than last year's jets with Zach Wilson. So at two and six, we would have crossed Zach Wilson off, right? We would have said, that's it.

00:25:18 Speaker_05
And that's why I love, love, loved your team today. Plus seven. Now they almost blew it.

00:25:22 Speaker_02
You had another wisest wager that you're six and two in the rain Sunday pregame. Congratulations.

00:25:28 Speaker_05
Thank you for knowing, but I really did like them. I mean, there had to be a little bit of a revenge thing. You have to play with some kind of pride. I think you may have had the bet. Now it all flipped on the drill.

00:25:37 Speaker_05
As soon as Drake may got hurt, they're like, oh, this sucks with percent, but it's still the jets. This is still a dysfunctional team. And I know they probably what they might've been like five and three.

00:25:47 Speaker_05
If that field goal kicker, Greg, the leg does his job.

00:25:51 Speaker_02
He's cost them three games. He cost them four points today. The PAT was massive. It completely changed the game. Did you think in a million years he was making the 44 yarder? Like in a million years?

00:26:05 Speaker_05
No, no. There's no way that was going through. It's weird though, because guys are now in 57 yarders to the middle of the net. Why is Greg DeLegge not good?

00:26:14 Speaker_02
It's weird that he's still their kicker. I mean, I thought he was going to be done last week. We assumed he was going to be the fall guy last week and he wasn't.

00:26:22 Speaker_05
I think they just look like assholes if they fire like two components in a week. They have to spread out. You gotta spread out your firings.

00:26:27 Speaker_02
They don't look like assholes?

00:26:29 Speaker_05
No, no, they're good. They've saved a lot of face.

00:26:33 Speaker_02
Well, Brissette came in and he threw for 132, 16 for 24. It was the best he's played all season. I think they would have won that game with May. I mean, the Jets defense was impotent.

00:26:44 Speaker_02
Did one sack, they weren't doing anything, and their offense wasn't any great shakes either. But this was a disgraceful loss because the Pats aren't good. The Pats were somehow kind of pressuring Rodgers. You gotta give it up to Mayo.

00:26:59 Speaker_02
He took a ton of shit all week from everybody, including me, and he deserved it. And calling the team soft, all that stuff. But that team roasted the occasion. They, in the fourth quarter, really fought for the game. Like, you gotta hand it to them.

00:27:11 Speaker_02
The receivers, they must've had seven, I don't know how closely you watched it, but they must've had, I would say seven killer, seven killer drops. Like, first series, made perfect pass down deep. I think Boutte dropped it. But, the...

00:27:28 Speaker_02
I think that the receivers were murdering them and they still won. They were seven for 15 on third down with a bunch of drops.

00:27:34 Speaker_05
Perfect. Right, seven for 15, you'll kill for that, right? The Jets were four for 10. And total, I mean, I could read you, I mean, there is a stat that's spectacular and it's funny.

00:27:46 Speaker_05
The Jets scored 20 plus points, committed zero turnovers and held their opponent to under 250 yards offense from 1940 until today, teams were 756 and 0 when they hit those three metrics. Unbelievable.

00:27:58 Speaker_02
Well, I had the Jets and the over in a tease, which was 35 and a half. And I didn't think they're, it's fine. I was, it was, you know, the Pats won, which is, it was fun to beat the Jets and make Rodgers upset, but I still think it was a good bet.

00:28:15 Speaker_02
I don't quite understand how the Jets didn't win, but when you watched it, They just seemed so poorly coached and so discombobulated. Like, first half, they were calling timeouts over and over again, just with the ball.

00:28:29 Speaker_02
Like, because they didn't communicate whatever the play was in time. They had delay of games in bad spots. They just do not look like a well-coached, crisp team at all.

00:28:40 Speaker_02
So, whatever they thought they were going to accomplish firing Salah, it didn't work.

00:28:43 Speaker_05
It wasn't a good bet, though, I hate to say it. Here's the thing, you can go back, and if it's in red, if everything's in red, you'll see it's not a good bet. If it's in green, that means you won. A little Christmas element to it.

00:28:55 Speaker_02
I don't regret the bet. Even the Jets score, they go ahead. Berset's gotta go all the way down the field. He's gotta go 70 yards with less than three minutes left. The guy can't run and he can't throw deep. And he just somehow easily did it. Made plays.

00:29:13 Speaker_02
Like the Jets, I don't know what they were doing. So, Mike Greenberg, because this is what everyone has to do at ESPN now is just completely overreact and do the hyperbole things and hope they can get cut in a vote into a internet thing.

00:29:30 Speaker_02
He did this tweet that ended, the Jets of 2024 are one of the truly colossal failures in recent sports memory and it only gets worse from here. The Jets over under was nine and a half wins.

00:29:43 Speaker_06
Yes.

00:29:43 Speaker_02
Nobody even wanted to pick them to win the AFC East. It was like, ah, can we take, Buffalo's got 60 plus million in dead calf space. I can't name two of their receivers. They have injuries on the defense. Miami.

00:29:58 Speaker_02
Like, anyone who picked the Jets, he didn't feel good about it. We did it in our over-under pod. I don't think this is a truly colossal failure. None of this stuff made sense as they were doing it.

00:30:08 Speaker_02
Like, I didn't understand the Devante Adams trade two weeks ago when they made it. What's the problem? Their problem is defense.

00:30:14 Speaker_05
You'd have to say, because you read in the beginning of the podcast, you read seven teams that are under 500. There were a couple of those teams that were over under was nine and a half, right? Yeah.

00:30:23 Speaker_05
I wouldn't say the Cowboys are a colossal, one of the most colossal collapses in sports history right now, right? Would you? I mean, it's bad. It sucks. They should be better.

00:30:34 Speaker_02
To me, a failure is like if the Lions were two and six. Right. Then I'll be like, holy shit, this team has so much talent. They were almost made the Superbowl last year. How are they two and six?

00:30:46 Speaker_07
Yeah, right. Same thing.

00:30:47 Speaker_02
The Jets is like, all of this is conceivable. Anyone who rooted for the Jets knew that this was lurking in there. I picked them to win the division because I didn't want to pick Buffalo. I didn't feel awesome about it, but it seemed like conceivable.

00:31:01 Speaker_02
But somebody like JJ was like, I'm never taking Sala. Remember, JJ was like, I'm out in the Jets, I'm shorting them. Sala's a terrible coach. I think a lot of people thought this might happen.

00:31:11 Speaker_05
We knew Sala wasn't effective. We didn't know that Aaron Rodgers, we had no idea what form of Aaron Rodgers we were going to get.

00:31:19 Speaker_02
Right, was he going to be able to move?

00:31:21 Speaker_05
Right. Well, we did know Hassan Redik was going to show up like that. That wasn't looking good. So at what point did you like that? Did this become so high? I mean, you got to add the New York element to it.

00:31:32 Speaker_05
A New York over nine and a half is like a 12th, basically. Right. So that's it.

00:31:36 Speaker_02
I mean, you could say it's definitely there's some organizational failures to it, like the fact that they didn't get rid of Salah in February, right?

00:31:45 Speaker_02
The fact that they thought Devontae Adams was gonna be the fix, like make the offense better, when their offensive line isn't even that good, and Rodgers seems pretty banged up.

00:31:53 Speaker_02
But I just think this was probably somewhere between an 8 to a 10 win team. And they've underachieved from that. The kicker cost them three games. But I'm not shocked by this.

00:32:06 Speaker_02
I know Jets fans who are like, I'm dreading this season, I think we're fucked, I think Rogers is gonna suck. They went through this with Brett Favre in 2010, remember? Was it 2010? 2009, one of those years. So anyway.

00:32:18 Speaker_05
I think it's just assumed in New York that if you have a Super Bowl winning quarterback on your team, he's definitely, no matter how many decades removed, he's definitely gonna have to do the same.

00:32:27 Speaker_02
You know what I realized? I think Brady and now LeBron too, because I don't know if you saw LeBron on Saturday night, but I was actually home, because I went to the Dodgers game. I came home and I watched the second half of the Lakers.

00:32:40 Speaker_02
LeBron was absolutely incredible. They were down seven to start the fourth quarter, and he scored like 16 points in like five minutes. I think he ended up with like 16 points, six assists, five rebounds. He was amazing. He single-handedly swung the game.

00:32:55 Speaker_02
They're 3-0, but I think him and Brady, have completely ruined our ability to properly assess old athletes. It's like Rogers is 40 and torn Achilles. The odds of this going well are probably 50-50.

00:33:09 Speaker_02
But it's just because Brady and LeBron are so incredible. it seems now conceivable that anybody can just keep going, and the history says they can't.

00:33:19 Speaker_05
You're not wrong, and I almost think the 40-plus athletes need to help themselves by announcing, hey, I'm not gonna be a Brady or a LeBron.

00:33:27 Speaker_05
Like Joe Flacco, she'd be like, I'm gonna have some nice moments, and maybe I could take this team to the playoffs, but don't expect me tossing the Lombardi in the Tampa Bay, whatever that's called, anytime soon.

00:33:39 Speaker_02
You're right.

00:33:40 Speaker_05
Yeah, they could help themselves.

00:33:41 Speaker_02
Anyway, here's a game. You've seen eight weeks of the NFL season except for the Monday night game. How many QBs would you take before Aaron Rodgers right now? And this is a really interesting exercise.

00:33:54 Speaker_02
I'm just gonna list guys and you tell me when I stop. So every guy I list you would take. Every person I list, unless you tell me stop, that's somebody you would take over Rodgers. For this year? Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen. Stop. No, go ahead.

00:34:14 Speaker_02
Keep going. Jaden Daniels, CJ Stroud. There's six. Brock Purdy, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Jordan Love. Now we're at 12. Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield. 14. Yep. Kurt Cousins. Yeah. All right. Now it's going to get fun.

00:34:45 Speaker_02
Kyler Murray. Trevor Lawrence.

00:34:53 Speaker_06
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

00:34:56 Speaker_02
All right. That's your first. I don't know. You might be Caleb Williams.

00:35:00 Speaker_06
Yeah.

00:35:01 Speaker_02
All right. Sam Darnold.

00:35:05 Speaker_05
Right there. I mean, some of these happen to be the same, right?

00:35:08 Speaker_02
And Drake May. Yeah. So I had the same. So I had Cousins was the 15th. Kyler was the 16th. And we both would have rather have Kyler and the Rodgers. That's 16.

00:35:18 Speaker_02
So now he's in the bottom half of starting quarterbacks and it's him, Lawrence, Caleb, Darnold, Tua, Drake May, whatever that group is. So he's in

00:35:28 Speaker_05
No doubt about it. You don't even have to do all that. They have something called stats and QB ratings and QBRs and all that.

00:35:33 Speaker_02
Yeah, but I think people still feel like he's a top 10 QB and he's just not. There's no scenario where he's a top 10 QB anymore.

00:35:38 Speaker_05
He's banged up too, like I'm not gonna make an, certainly not gonna make an injury excuse for him, but he just doesn't look like, I feel like he's constantly thinking, oh wow, there's nine more weeks, and that's if we don't make the playoffs, and then there's more, right?

00:35:54 Speaker_05
Doesn't he have that look to him? Like I can't, I'm not gonna make it to the finish line.

00:35:58 Speaker_02
He looks like a, yeah, like he's like a marathoner on mile 16, but he's got like a pulled hamstring.

00:36:03 Speaker_05
It's the 5G, it's gotta be the 5G, but yeah.

00:36:07 Speaker_02
He's done another magical thing. He's gotten our cousin Jimmy back invested in football again. He knows what happens on Sunday afternoons. You couldn't have said that since 2005. So congratulations to Aaron. All right, couple more questions.

00:36:24 Speaker_02
Did the Falcons win the NFC South today?

00:36:27 Speaker_05
Yeah, and maybe the NFCs too, I don't know.

00:36:32 Speaker_02
They beat the four and four Bucs, they beat them twice, so the Bucs would have to be a game higher than them. They're five and three, the Falcons. They have the Giants left, New Orleans, Carolina, Las Vegas, and Denver.

00:36:43 Speaker_02
And I don't really, even if Cousins got hurt, I mean, they took Penix eighth, he's what, 23 years old, he could probably come in and hold the fort. And I just feel like this is a wrap now. Plus Tampa, you felt the Evans-Godwin thing today.

00:37:00 Speaker_02
Even though Mayfield was good, he had a lot of completions, he was able to move the ball, they had more total yards, but guess what, really nice to have those guys.

00:37:07 Speaker_05
I'm mad at us, meaning me and you. We had a plan. It wasn't even a concept of a plan. It was an actual plan that we're gonna wait three weeks and then take the Falcons, and it would have been about even odds or something.

00:37:19 Speaker_05
And even before this week, it was minus 210, and now they're minus 370 in the South, and they swept Tampa, who's the only team that's gonna compete with them in that division. I don't need to see Derek Carr's comeback. It's fine.

00:37:34 Speaker_02
How many touchdown passes for Kirk Cousins last four weeks?

00:37:40 Speaker_05
Does he have 11? Does he have 10? Yeah.

00:37:44 Speaker_02
Now imagine, they have no pass rush, and Tampo is able to hang around in this game partly because Atlanta can't do anything. Imagine if they had somehow, Danny, not Danny, Sheil Kapati and I talked about this on Thursday.

00:37:57 Speaker_02
Imagine if they had taken one more defensive guy at number eight instead of Penix.

00:38:02 Speaker_06
Yeah.

00:38:04 Speaker_02
Would have helped. Tampa had 432 yards today and they lost. One other thing that happened in this game, is Kyle Pitts, is he alive? Is it official?

00:38:16 Speaker_02
Is he, did our five year odyssey, are we at the finish line and we can now put him in a fantasy lineup and feel okay about it?

00:38:24 Speaker_05
The tight ends, I'm glad you brought this up, Bill, because it does happen to be national tight end. It is. Congratulations again to the tight ends.

00:38:32 Speaker_05
But maybe this is something with tight ends where, hmm, I'm trying to think because Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, probably on a lot of waiver wires, you know, three weeks ago. Goddard, Goddard was another one.

00:38:46 Speaker_05
Goddard, now like Mark Andrews is a top tight end in the league or right up there. It's very strange with them and I wonder if the two deep and everything else is affecting it.

00:38:55 Speaker_05
But yeah, four for 91 yards, two touchdowns, you can't sit them in fantasy now.

00:39:00 Speaker_02
No, no, there's, there's a lot of pretty good tight ends that are all around the same and I don't, you know, there's no rhyme or reason to starting whoever. Here's, here's another question.

00:39:13 Speaker_02
I think the Bulls, the Bills have locked up the AFC East even more than anybody. I told you. Four wins ahead of everyone else in the division right now.

00:39:24 Speaker_05
It's us, we all have it. We have the AFC figured out. We have Chiefs, Ravens, Texans, Bills on a par let. It basically pays even odds, right?

00:39:32 Speaker_02
Yeah, that's gonna win.

00:39:33 Speaker_05
I'm not shook by any of it, even the Ravens. I know their defense is bad.

00:39:38 Speaker_02
Most up in the air division for you, would you go NFC West or AFC North? AFC North has Baltimore versus Pittsburgh. NFC West has three teams now with four losses, the Seahawks, Rams, and Niners, and they're all playing each other in the future.

00:39:55 Speaker_02
The Niners seem like a guy gets injured every week now. It's just part of watching a Niners game. Somebody's gonna limp off. But I personally would say NFC West, but what would you say?

00:40:05 Speaker_05
Yeah, I'd say NFC West. Now maybe more stupid to look at 49ers minus 130 and say, oh, McCaffrey's gonna come back soon. Why aren't we just jumping on this? Another team was 130, that was the Falcons, we let it go.

00:40:17 Speaker_05
But the Seahawks are last in terms of odds. Like they were at the top, right? Then two weeks ago, we were like, oh man, they're winning by default. But yeah, you can get them at five to one. And then the Cardinals can play with anybody.

00:40:32 Speaker_02
We had, when we did our futures draft, One of the bets I liked was three NFC West playoff teams. And I can't remember, it was like, the odds were really good on it. And I just thought, I didn't know who it was gonna be.

00:40:45 Speaker_02
And I'm still not totally sure who it's gonna be, but something weird's going on with Arizona. They had no business whatsoever beating the Chargers on Monday night. I still don't know how it happened.

00:40:55 Speaker_02
It was the classic touchdown, fumbled through the end zone. We were like, ah, the other team's winning now. It's just, it's a lock. And then today,

00:41:02 Speaker_02
It was almost a take the game off the TV, Miami has this game, and then Arizona kind of hung around, hung around, and all of a sudden they're stealing the game.

00:41:09 Speaker_02
With Chad Ryland making the winning kick, the dude who literally got the Pat's Drake May last year because he was such a bad kicker. So now the cards are somehow 4-4 and have gotten their ass kicked a couple times.

00:41:22 Speaker_05
I don't really get that bad. And you look at that box score, everything's pretty even, right? Like it came out strong, but I think there was a little bit of a nobody believes in us. Nobody believes in our travel plans.

00:41:33 Speaker_05
They played Monday night and then they have to go cross country, you know, play the Sunday 1 p.m. game. And then they just stuck around, stuck around. I got the running quarterback who moves the ball and they were right there against the Dolphins who

00:41:47 Speaker_05
I don't, again, you can't circle any team on their schedule for a win. No.

00:41:53 Speaker_02
Tua, I thought their plan with Tua was, everyone was so worried about him playing this week. It was just like, you have to throw the ball in two seconds or less.

00:42:02 Speaker_06
Yeah.

00:42:02 Speaker_02
Just make a decision quick. If it's not there, just sail it. Don't keep it, don't hold it. Yeah, the NFC West, I have no idea who's, what are the odds in that division? We should probably do this.

00:42:14 Speaker_05
So Niners are minus 130, Cards plus 420, Rams plus 490, and Seahawks five to one.

00:42:23 Speaker_02
What do you think's the best bet out of those four?

00:42:25 Speaker_05
I hate to say it, but that team we saw tonight, that was, what was that, like a five or a six for the 49ers?

00:42:34 Speaker_02
Yeah, but I'm still subscribing a year from hell for them.

00:42:40 Speaker_05
Really?

00:42:42 Speaker_02
Can I offer you the Rams? Well, that was my preseason pick. Just the plus 490, now they have everybody back. They're at Seattle in week nine. And if they can win that one,

00:42:58 Speaker_02
They'd be four and four, but they played Miami, they played the Pats, they played New Orleans, they played the Jets. Their last two games are Arizona, Seattle, or home. I could see them getting the 10 wins. And the cup thing, I never believed.

00:43:10 Speaker_02
People are reporting that. I never believed that. I thought that was like a classic, I need something for my report on TV today. I don't know who reported it. I just don't believe it. I don't know why they would have traded him. He's got a good contract.

00:43:24 Speaker_02
You know, like you don't trade him unless you're like one and eight and your season's over. Their season wasn't over. They had him coming back in Puka. Why would they be shopping? It was stupid.

00:43:34 Speaker_05
Their defense isn't great, but their offense is really good. I mean, Puka was supposed to be limited all over the damn place, right? And Kyron Williams just scores every game. He's in the end zone every single game.

00:43:49 Speaker_05
It's Derrick Henry without the 160 yards.

00:43:52 Speaker_02
Yeah, I'm not saying the Rams are gonna win the division. I just like those odds the most, the plus 490. The cards to me seem like smoke and mirrors. Seattle has really gotten their ass kicked a couple times, which I think is a bad sign for them.

00:44:06 Speaker_02
It doesn't seem like they can play two good games in a row.

00:44:10 Speaker_03
And Metcalf, the Metcalf injury hurt them too.

00:44:14 Speaker_02
Last question. Is Anthony Richardson gonna still be starting in a month?

00:44:21 Speaker_06
Can I give you some stats?

00:44:24 Speaker_02
First half today, two for 15. For the game, 10 for 32. Threw a pick at the end of the first half, which was one of the five worst passes of the year, and he also has one of the other five. 44.4 completion percentage for the year.

00:44:42 Speaker_02
So nine passes, five of the nine, every nine he throws are incomplete. And they're not just incomplete.

00:44:49 Speaker_02
I would say I was with somebody that I was saying it was like, I probably have made this joke before, but when you watch like you have a little boy, like a six year old, and they're trying to piss in a urinal and it's just going everywhere.

00:45:01 Speaker_02
That's what his passes look like. He has no idea where they're going, but it also seems like at any time he could throw a 70-yarder and hit somebody in stride, but the next one will be like, oh, bounce one.

00:45:12 Speaker_02
He's just, he's no idea where the ball's going.

00:45:14 Speaker_05
Well, that's the thing. I like looking at the halftime, the 1 p.m. Eastern games. I like looking at the halftime stats for quarterback because there's always a few that are in the 30, 40, 50 yards. And he had like 68 yards. I'm like, oh, he's okay then.

00:45:26 Speaker_05
I'm like, wait, let me gaze, let me just move my head to the left and see completion attempts. And he was, what'd you say, two for 15? And they're all bad throws. I like him, nice guy. And then he took himself out because he was tired.

00:45:40 Speaker_05
It's a tiring game, it is.

00:45:42 Speaker_02
Tough one. I think, I personally thought they should have benched him at halftime for Flacco. Because I thought that was a winnable game. really struggles. I mean, they've been pulling out these games.

00:45:53 Speaker_02
They lost Diggs today, so now they don't have Diggs or Collins next week. It's basically Tankdale or Bust. It feels like they can't really protect Stroud. And they're kind of hanging around and just kind of outwitting these teams down the stretch.

00:46:06 Speaker_02
But when you watch them, It feels pretty flimsy, and I like them. I said last week to you, I thought the Texans and the Packers, I wanted to see what they would look like in December when they have everybody back.

00:46:18 Speaker_02
They feel really gettable week to week now. I really thought Stroud was under siege. It was against the Colts. It's like the Colts have a good defense.

00:46:25 Speaker_05
Yeah, the Colts play them tough, though. They, for some reason, are always in there with them, but if all they have to do, I know that's not all they have to do, but they're minus 850 to win the division. They're gonna take care of business there.

00:46:38 Speaker_02
Uh, the, and Jordan Love hurt his groin. So when we talk about the Detroit game, that's something that happened, uh, in the Packers game.

00:46:46 Speaker_05
So that was another, uh, I mean, he's won three games and Malik Willis has won three games, right?

00:46:52 Speaker_02
Jaguars lost again. They lost Christian Kirk. Yeah. T Higgins decided, uh, on Friday to hurt his quad after I did million dollar picks. Thanks. Thanks T. Um,

00:47:05 Speaker_02
And I ended up having to try to hedge the Bengals bet that I already had, except that they're gonna throw on them all again. They got killed by the Eagles.

00:47:13 Speaker_05
I almost wanna cross them off. I know we can't, but that is.

00:47:18 Speaker_02
We do this every year, there's a 3-5, 2-6, 3-6 team that turns it around second half and we won't have, next week at the top of the pod we'll try to figure out who that team is because it happens every year and we know it's gonna happen.

00:47:30 Speaker_02
And they're a candidate.

00:47:31 Speaker_05
We'll be over the hump, the nine games for some, so yeah.

00:47:34 Speaker_02
It will have to be somebody that's 2-7 or 3-6 or 3-5, like one of those records. That's fine. But the Eagles, sure, they look good, they made some plays, but I also think if you're playing the Bengals with Chase and that's it.

00:47:48 Speaker_02
There's also some awful Zach Taylor play calling. I can't say he's been awesome this year. Some weird fourth down stuff. The Chiefs beat the Raiders but didn't cover. The Lions killed the Titans.

00:48:04 Speaker_02
and then the Broncos beat the Panthers by 14, covered the 14, 13 pointees that I called in on the ringers Sunday pregame. Browns. I didn't make fun of it. Plus 20, over down to 31, Chiefs, and then the Broncos, covered easily.

00:48:24 Speaker_02
I didn't even have to sweat it. The Chiefs were the closest, I guess. Yeah, and they were up by 14 the whole game. Yeah, yeah. So the Panthers are 51 and 140 the last four weeks. Yeah. I don't know why we didn't get them for worst record.

00:48:42 Speaker_05
Your South bet is just looking golden. I was laughing at you. I'm like, these teams play each other. They're going to have 20 wins just playing it, you know, that whatever, just with a few more, they can't, they're never going to get that there.

00:48:54 Speaker_05
What is it? 30 and a half is the number.

00:48:57 Speaker_02
Yeah, 30 and a half. They got 12 in eight weeks, so they'd have to get 19 in the last nine weeks to beat me, like over two a week. Let's take a break for the podcast. This episode is brought to you by Uber Reserve.

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Second item of equal or lesser value. Terms apply. See app for details. So we did a futures draft before the season. And my number one bet was NFC South under 30 wins plus 155.

00:50:32 Speaker_02
You took that Detroit, Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota exact bet plus 600, and Caleb over 18.5 interceptions with your first two. Is Caleb gonna get that?

00:50:41 Speaker_05
Oh, where is he?

00:50:43 Speaker_02
Oh man, he was really on track. You might be sweating that one out. Let me see. Um, some ones that we hit though, during this Mahomes Stroud and Lawrence four K yards was plus four or three. I think that's going to hit unless somebody gets hurt.

00:50:58 Speaker_02
Houston AFC South plus a hundred. Uh, I had that one's going to hit. You had cousins come back for the year plus four 30. Is he the favorite now? Um, he's gotta be, well, it was Rogers and cousins were up there. Oh, you've got that. Yeah.

00:51:14 Speaker_02
Walker for the NFC West rushing leader, all the Niners guys got hurt.

00:51:19 Speaker_05
It's him or James Conner?

00:51:21 Speaker_02
Yeah, I guess he's got hurt.

00:51:22 Speaker_05
Conner Williams is good too.

00:51:23 Speaker_02
I had Detroit for the one seed plus 480, that's looking good. This one hurts, Hutchinson, Mo Sacks, 11-1, and he was cruising, he got hurt.

00:51:31 Speaker_05
Well on his way, yep.

00:51:32 Speaker_02
You had Tyreek 13 TDs plus 360, that's not happening. But you had lamb most receiving yards in the NFCA East, plus 115. I think that will happen. Who's beating that? It's like almost 200 a day. Yeah, if neighbor stays hurt, yeah, it could be all right.

00:51:49 Speaker_02
I lost on Pats being last on this team. I have the Seahawks over eight and a half with the Pats under four and a half, three to one. You had Pats' worst record, Lions' best record, 36 to one. That's still in play. No.

00:52:02 Speaker_02
You need one more Panthers win probably.

00:52:04 Speaker_05
No, the Panthers, you're so good with that South bet because the Panthers are gonna win two more games, so. Right. What are you at, 14 then? Yeah, you're set.

00:52:15 Speaker_02
You had Atlanta, KC, Jacksonville, and Houston all to make the playoffs, minus 160. That's not gonna win, and then we can keep going. But those were our favorites. One of the ones was NFC East, more wins than the NFC South, minus 175.

00:52:28 Speaker_02
And we loved that one. So the NFC West, three playoff teams, that was plus 550. You had Daniel's Offensive Rookie of the Year six to one.

00:52:36 Speaker_05
I know that, I know that.

00:52:37 Speaker_02
That was a good one. But we hit a lot of these. Seahawks playoffs, plus 168, I think that's in there. Harbaugh Coach of the Year, et cetera, et cetera. What are we gonna do with the money? With all the money? With all the fake money we didn't actually win?

00:52:52 Speaker_02
All I want is for us not to look terrible when we do these futures.

00:52:56 Speaker_04
I know.

00:52:57 Speaker_02
Like we have that, I have that NBA super boost, OKC 55 plus wins, Cleveland 45 plus, Phoenix 45 plus. I'm feeling great about that. And they boosted that to like plus 280, something like that. Okay.

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00:53:52 Speaker_02
Before we do guess the lines, here's the playoff picture. Six win teams, Detroit, Green Bay, Washington. Philly's five and two, Atlanta's five and three. But then, Chicago's four and three, Seattle, Tampa, Arizona, San Francisco, all four and four.

00:54:09 Speaker_02
So the AFC is like, we're not gonna know what happens for two more months. AFC, KC's seven and oh, Buffalo and Houston six and two, Pittsburgh's five and two, Baltimore's five and three. That's five teams. Then you have the Chargers in Denver,

00:54:24 Speaker_02
Denver's 5-3, the Chargers are 4-3, Indy's 4-4. There's gonna be an awful AFC playoff team.

00:54:31 Speaker_06
Yeah.

00:54:32 Speaker_02
I think it's official. Yeah. We're going to be like, we might be able to bet against Bo Nix in a playoff game.

00:54:37 Speaker_05
Denver is, um, well that's kind of how I felt about Chicago and Washington and fans of both cities will be mad, but I was like, look at my chops.

00:54:45 Speaker_05
I felt like, Oh man, who would, who was salivating more me knowing I could bet one of these teams in the playoffs or the two seed that is actually going to play this team in the playoffs. But Yeah, Denver doesn't seem ready to me just yet.

00:54:58 Speaker_05
I know they beat up on the Panthers. It gets a little rough for them coming up. But their overall run was 5.5. They're at 5 already.

00:55:05 Speaker_02
Like that could be Buffalo hosting Denver as like 10.5 point favorites, right? Yeah, that'd be a fun one. MVP, Josh Allen is the favorite on Fando at plus 320. Lamar is plus 350. Mahomes is plus 450. Goff is 7-1 and Daniels is 9-1.

00:55:26 Speaker_02
And I don't think anyone else is really in the mix at this point.

00:55:30 Speaker_05
I still like Goff here. I'm still going Goff. I know they, I mean, they scored a billion points and he didn't contribute accordingly, like a guy would score that many points, but his numbers, what did he do?

00:55:45 Speaker_05
In the last four games, he has 13 incompletions and they have 23 touchdowns. Like you show that stat to the Panthers coach and he's like, what? What league is that? Did I get in that league? That's ridiculous numbers.

00:55:59 Speaker_02
He's like, can I get in any league? Dave Canales, who fake punted from, did you see that one today?

00:56:05 Speaker_06
I did, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:07 Speaker_02
The desperation fake punt on a bad team that goes terribly is the announcer never knows what to do. That's like, oh boy, just when you thought it couldn't get worse for the Panthers. It's like one of those, they're just so bummed out.

00:56:22 Speaker_05
The announcers of the Panthers-Broncos games might not know what to do anyway, but just because they're putting that slot. It's Chris Myers, let's just say who it is. It actually wasn't, it was down. Chris Myers says, I'm right here. Hey!

00:56:41 Speaker_05
Yeah, but Pierce not kicking that field goal on fourth, I don't know if you want to talk about it real quick, but against the Chiefs, I think he kind of cut it to four. And then, I mean, they had first and goal at the one.

00:56:53 Speaker_05
It was like fourth and goal from the three. What do you need to see? Your team's going backwards. Bring the field goal, now's when you bring the field goal kicker out.

00:57:00 Speaker_02
Pierce's field goal decisions this year have been one of the secret joys of YouTube TV's multi-view. It's either Jada Davis' Hail Mary or Pierce kicking the field goal to cut it from eight to five last week.

00:57:14 Speaker_02
That were my two favorite moments of the year. That was the best. And it's still a one touchdown game. I have to say, I think Allen at plus 320, even though he's the favorite, is probably the one I would bet if I had to bet any of those.

00:57:29 Speaker_02
Yeah, because if they're a one or a two seed, he's gonna be the reason, right? There's no other reason.

00:57:35 Speaker_05
He's excellent, and I feel like they have eight pass catchers now. And he finally threw an interception. He had nine games in a row without a pick.

00:57:44 Speaker_02
Still cool. Guess the lines, week nine. Somehow the Jets are playing on Thursday night. I feel like this team has been on national TV.

00:57:54 Speaker_02
The only bigger nightmare than being a Jets fan is being, everyone else still likes watching night games on television, because we have to fucking watch this team again.

00:58:02 Speaker_05
The schedule makers got bored or something, they put the Jets, the Steelers, and the Giants, and some kind of bingo hopper, and they just kind of like, all right, just you play Thursday, and you play here, and then you'll play each other six times, and we'll have you against the Texans on Halloween.

00:58:17 Speaker_02
Well, this is in New York, or I guess in New Jersey, which I don't know if that helps the Jets. I think people will be surly, I think alcohol will be served and consumed, and I don't think it's gonna be a happy sporting event to go to.

00:58:34 Speaker_02
The good news for the Jets is that the Texans are down to one receiver. Now, from what I saw today, I think they could probably run the ball with Bonner, but I have the Texans as favorites.

00:58:45 Speaker_02
I have the Texans favored by one and a half at the New York Jets.

00:58:49 Speaker_05
All right, here's what infuriates me. The Texans are a lot better than the Jets. And I'm not just saying, because one team's six and two, and the other's two and six. So I also had the Texans favored, but by three. And I thought it was a little light.

00:59:03 Speaker_05
The Jets are favored by one and a half. Oh, wow. The Jets are favored by one and a half. What do you need to see out of the Jets anymore?

00:59:13 Speaker_02
Well, what you saw today was a team that, yeah, they seem like they wanted the season end, except for a couple of guys.

00:59:20 Speaker_05
Can they play a capable quarterback and survive? I don't like this line. This makes me wanna skip the week, because I'm not gonna do well the rest of the games if I can't hit this. Where do you think this line ends?

00:59:34 Speaker_05
Well, maybe it'll flip, we've seen one and a half slip the other way, like two, but, oh no, Texans are favored by one. Jets are favored by one. Oh, I'm sorry, it did flip already, I'm sorry. It did flip, the Texans are one and a half.

00:59:47 Speaker_05
When I wrote it down an hour ago, it was Jets one and a half.

00:59:50 Speaker_02
That's what I did, so I hit that exactly.

00:59:52 Speaker_05
You got it exactly, all right, I was just insulted that the Jets at one point was favored. You got it exactly.

00:59:59 Speaker_02
I feel like you're on the Jets. You got it anyway. Sunday marquee game is great. Lions at Green Bay. Sadly we don't know if Jordan Love, what his status is going to be.

01:00:12 Speaker_02
I just picked it like he's going to play because I assume he's going to play the Lions by three.

01:00:18 Speaker_05
Wow, so you think Jordan Love, with Jordan Love, the Lions, well you're gonna, you get it anyway. It's three and a half. But I thought Green Bay would be a one point favor with Jordan Love.

01:00:29 Speaker_02
I'm so off today, so off. I have three watchable games, and the first one is your team, because it's Falcons, Cowboys. You kinda need the game.

01:00:44 Speaker_06
Yep.

01:00:45 Speaker_02
I'll go this far. I kinda like watching Atlanta. I think they're a fun hang every week. Yeah, I enjoy watching their team. I like their offense, their defense. They can't rush the passer, so the other offense is always good. Their games are fun to watch.

01:01:01 Speaker_02
I have the Falcons minus three over the Cowboys. I think you can throw on them. I think you could actually potentially beat them.

01:01:08 Speaker_05
All right, I'm gonna get this one. I said Falcons by one, and it's one and a half. But it probably will move up to a number you have. Yeah, it depends what version you're getting, right?

01:01:17 Speaker_05
If Cousins is in sync, and Kyle Pitts is alive, and Mooney and all those guys are clicking on offense, great, so they have fun to watch.

01:01:27 Speaker_05
But if it's 17-15, and they're trotting Ku out to kick a 54-yarder that means something or doesn't, I hate that version.

01:01:38 Speaker_02
Bears are the second rewatchable game. They are at Arizona. This game will be, I think, interesting and compelling. And I have the Bears favored by one.

01:01:51 Speaker_05
Ooh, all right, I get this. I had Arizona by two, and it's Arizona by one and a half. Don't agree. Don't a lot of people from Chicago live in Arizona? Like isn't that the transplant? Is it, yeah, so there's one, yeah.

01:02:09 Speaker_05
I think there's a lot, like that's the national migration.

01:02:11 Speaker_02
Like it's a little closer to Illinois, to just like soon down there. Yeah, I don't know what the point is, but.

01:02:17 Speaker_02
Well, I mean, if you had the two residents saying, hey, you balance it, you gotta get out of Arizona in the summer, and Chicago, that's the most fun time to be in Chicago.

01:02:25 Speaker_07
Right, a lot of Bears fans say that's what I'm saying.

01:02:29 Speaker_02
Well, didn't they used to be, they were the Chicago Cardinals, right?

01:02:33 Speaker_03
Cardinals.

01:02:34 Speaker_02
Yeah, they moved from Chicago to Arizona.

01:02:39 Speaker_03
Before our time, please. Way before our time.

01:02:43 Speaker_02
You know, there's something on, speaking of Chicago, there's something on Instagram of all of Walter Payton's touchdown throws. Really? He was by far the best non QB thrower of anyone who did that.

01:03:00 Speaker_02
And I was thinking like, I still have him number one for any running back I've ever seen, Walter Payton. And we didn't get to see him that much in New England.

01:03:08 Speaker_02
I mean, it was only like every once in a while, but we'd see the clips, but I just thought like he was the best at everything. I don't know if there's been anyone like him since.

01:03:16 Speaker_05
He was dazzling, they say Jim Brown before him. But yeah, he could do it all. You know what, and as a quarterback too, let's go back to your list of who's better than Rodgers.

01:03:25 Speaker_02
Would you take Walter Payton or Rodgers? Right now.

01:03:30 Speaker_05
Forget 78, right now I would take Walter Payton.

01:03:34 Speaker_02
He was so good. Who's your number one? Would you say Emmett just out of loyalty?

01:03:37 Speaker_05
Well, I would, but I mean, what are we saying? Because like, best hang, best to watch was Barry Sanders, there's no doubt.

01:03:45 Speaker_02
Yeah, but if I'm trying to win games and win the Super Bowl, if I had one game, I would take Emmett. If I had a whole season, absolutely Walter Payton. But I thought Emmett, for one game, with a decent offensive line, was getting you 155 yards.

01:04:00 Speaker_02
And he was gonna move the chains 11 times.

01:04:04 Speaker_05
We'll probably forget names like Dickerson and guys like that, but I even put Terrell Davis pretty high in terms of getting the game right.

01:04:10 Speaker_02
So that's the other one for me, because it was a short prime, but those two years where it just seemed like he could run 45 degrees and go six yards a thing, he'd be the other one for me.

01:04:20 Speaker_02
Out of the 21st century guys, I don't know, a lot of people would have Tomlinson here, and he never quite got there for me. He's better in fantasy than real life. Peterson, I don't know. Last one for the watchable, Seahawks-Rams.

01:04:37 Speaker_02
It's in Seattle, and I have the Seahawks by two and a half over the Rams.

01:04:42 Speaker_03
That's exactly what I had. It's one and a half, though. Ooh. It's three-three. Three-three.

01:04:51 Speaker_02
Very watchable.

01:04:51 Speaker_03
I have some real losers in here, though. Go ahead.

01:04:55 Speaker_02
I did something today, because we had the eight early games today, by the way. I did the multi-view for the big TV. I put Green Bay Jacksonville on its own TV on the side. And then I had the other three games, Browns, Miami, and Buffalo.

01:05:15 Speaker_02
I had them on a three-team multi-view, but I kept clicking. That was the one I was controlling with my finger, like on the remote. Kind of kept on the Browns, but if it was a commercial, we'd zoom back for all three.

01:05:27 Speaker_02
I watched eight games at the same time. I was really proud of myself.

01:05:30 Speaker_05
What a world this is, right? Yeah, so did I. And you didn't mention Red Zone once. You don't need it.

01:05:35 Speaker_02
Watch the games. Listen, those are red zones for the kids.

01:05:39 Speaker_05
They're giving us the games.

01:05:40 Speaker_02
For people like my son. Yeah.

01:05:41 Speaker_05
They're putting filet mignon in front of us. Why are we grabbing the mashed potatoes? Come on.

01:05:47 Speaker_02
Fairly watchables. Buffalo is home for the Miami Dolphins. And I think this goes right into the Vegas zone. And it's bills by five.

01:05:57 Speaker_05
That's what I said. It's six and a half. Ooh, out of the Vegas zone. Well, they beat him 31-10 week two, right?

01:06:05 Speaker_02
Yeah, they killed him. If I'm playing the Dolphins after watching that game, I'm playing everybody tight, and I'm making Tua try to hold the ball for two seconds, because I think he's under direction not to.

01:06:20 Speaker_02
Brown's home for the Chargers, and you could have argued this should have been a watchable. I have the Browns favored by one and a half.

01:06:32 Speaker_03
Oh, I got this right.

01:06:33 Speaker_05
I had Chargers by two. It's Chargers by two and a half. That's stupid. I don't agree with that. I don't even like this Chargers team. I don't know. So you had that game on a multi-view? Oh no, that was the late afternoon.

01:06:49 Speaker_02
That was a later game.

01:06:50 Speaker_05
I watched that game. I look at that, I'm like, I feel bad for everyone who has to sit in traffic because they bought tickets to Saints Chargers. Disgusting.

01:07:01 Speaker_02
I'm on some threads about, you know, there are 10 receivers picked in the first 37. Harrison, Neighbors, Odunze. The Pats had the 34th pick in the second round. Brian Thomas went 23rd. Casey traded up for Xavier Worthy at 28. So five guys I really like.

01:07:26 Speaker_02
Ricky Pierce all 31 look good tonight. Leggett on Carolina, he's at least done a couple things. Keon Coleman I think has been good on Buffalo 33. We had the 34th pick traded back with the Chargers.

01:07:42 Speaker_02
They took Ladd-McConkie 34th, we took Jalen Polk 37th who I think has the worst stats of any receiver who's had over like 10 targets this season. Somehow the Pats have done it again with second round receivers. I don't know how we do it.

01:07:57 Speaker_02
I'm not crossing him off, but I'm just saying, I was thinking about it as Lad McConkie was like the star of the Chargers game.

01:08:03 Speaker_05
No doubt. Did you cross him off your fantasy teams? He was on at least two of your fantasy teams, Jalen Polk.

01:08:08 Speaker_02
Not anymore, he was waived a long time ago. Yeah, so we traded, we had the 34th pick. We traded back for the 110th pick, traded back three spots. and went from 137 to 110.

01:08:24 Speaker_02
So they moved to 27 spots to not have Ladd-McConkie, who just seems like he gets open and makes big plays all the time. And actually catches the ball. He used to work out for you all the time. Catches the ball, like everyone else in the Patriots.

01:08:40 Speaker_02
Washington's at the Giants. I couldn't go higher than four in this. I have Washington by four.

01:08:49 Speaker_03
Um, you get it. I said two, and it's three and a half. I don't know why I said two, that was dumb. It's five-five.

01:09:00 Speaker_05
This was 21-18, right? Who won this? Washington won the first time, 21-18.

01:09:04 Speaker_02
Well, that was the one where they didn't have the backup kicker.

01:09:07 Speaker_05
That's right.

01:09:08 Speaker_02
And then couldn't, they had to go for it when, yeah.

01:09:11 Speaker_05
Yeah, Washington didn't score, touchdown, yeah.

01:09:14 Speaker_02
Ravens, Broncos, I'm putting the Broncos right away on Moneyline, Underdog Alert, because... After a loss? Huh? After a Ravens loss? No, I'm not betting it, I'm just saying, like that Ravens, Ravens at home, minus seven.

01:09:37 Speaker_02
against Denver, and the reason you have to do the, that's my pick, but the reason I have them on alert is, it just seems like when the Ravens play a shitty team, they just decide to play shitty.

01:09:47 Speaker_02
Or like a mediocre team, like they rise to the occasion and get some good teams, and a game like this, they're like, ah, Bo Nix, he can't throw the ball. They think they'll just show up, and then all of a sudden it's 14 to 12 with four minutes left.

01:10:00 Speaker_05
What'd you have? I could see that. I said five and a half, but Fandel disagrees with both of us. They say this is gonna be a shellacking. Eight and a half they went with, so you win.

01:10:14 Speaker_02
You know, Fandel, I say this out of love, and it's a compliment, because FanDuel's been great to us, and they're an awesome partner, and I like FanDuel. They rebranded those RSNs.

01:10:25 Speaker_06
They did, yeah.

01:10:26 Speaker_02
And I was watching the Warriors-Clippers game tonight, and it said the FanDuel Sports Network. It was kinda cool. It was actually, it seemed pretty smart that they got all those RSNs. It's just like automatic promotion.

01:10:38 Speaker_05
All your boosts popped up. Did you see your boosts promoted on that? No, that sounds great. Yeah, you're not getting paid for that? No, I didn't see it, I didn't see it. I didn't see it.

01:10:51 Speaker_02
They should, they should though, why not? I just like fan duel sports that work so much more than ballets, whatever the fuck ballets was. All right, last one for semi-watchables. Eagles, Jaguars in Philly.

01:11:06 Speaker_02
Doug doesn't, did we lose coach Middle State tomorrow? This week you mean? Well, tomorrow's when they fire coaches.

01:11:15 Speaker_05
Oh, I see. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Oh, man. I'm going to pull the plug three times. By the way, this was flexed out of the night game, right? That's how much they hate middle seat.

01:11:25 Speaker_06
Yeah.

01:11:26 Speaker_05
This is now a late afternoon game. I think this is it for him. This is he doesn't leave Philly. They give him a cheesesteak and a bus pass. And that's that.

01:11:37 Speaker_02
we'll always have him and Nick Foles somehow beating the Patriots and Belichick and Brady. We'll go down 40 years from now, people will just be staring at the box score going, wait, what happened?

01:11:48 Speaker_05
That kills you. That's top three for you, worst. I think if you, there's probably too many Yankees shit in there.

01:11:54 Speaker_02
No, the worst ones are the, the two Giants ones were worse than the Eagles ones.

01:11:58 Speaker_03
Yeah, all right. Yeah, so this doesn't crack the five, I don't think.

01:12:02 Speaker_02
The first Giants one, they played better than us. I know we were supposed to win, but that team was running on fumes, and the Giants played great that game. They beat the shit out of us. They deserved to win. The second one was bullshit.

01:12:13 Speaker_02
I don't know how we didn't win that game. That second Giants team has to be one of the worst Super Bowl champs ever. I have no idea how we lost that game. Gronk was hurt. So stupid.

01:12:27 Speaker_02
I actually watched that game two summers ago, and I was just like, how the fuck did we lose this game? Eagles, Jags, I have Eagles minus six.

01:12:35 Speaker_05
You're closer, I said five and a half, it's seven.

01:12:41 Speaker_02
Can we urge America not to tease the Eagles? You won't do Eagles?

01:12:45 Speaker_05
No.

01:12:46 Speaker_02
What's him do? Keep the Eagles at your dirty mouth. Eagles, Ravens? You wouldn't do it. No.

01:12:49 Speaker_05
Really? Don't trust the Eagles. You don't think they're back on track? Don't trust the Eagles. That's true. You know, you did warn us, because when you said Sirianni's got that swagger, and then it goes the other way, right?

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01:14:40 Speaker_02
The Raiders are officially unwatchable. And yet, I don't know how the Bengals can be favored by more than seven, seven and a half. So I went seven. I didn't even feel good about that.

01:14:55 Speaker_05
You're good. See, this is where you pull away. I said six.

01:14:58 Speaker_03
I didn't even think they were that strong. Eight and a half is the number. Oh, that's stupid.

01:15:04 Speaker_02
Jesus, they stink. I mean, talk about no pass rush, no pressure or anything. Holy shit. Hertz has to feel like, he probably didn't even get touched in that game.

01:15:15 Speaker_05
No, and I was push pushing from the three yard line. He didn't even care. We saw Desmond Ritter come in for a play, for one play. Yeah. And I was like, oh, and then, oh, where's he going? What happened? Not that we haven't seen enough of him.

01:15:28 Speaker_02
Did we have a nickname for Desmond Ritter? Did we? What'd we have? Middle seat says? No. Feels like something you would have come up with. Other poop fact of the game. Titans are home for the Patriots. And this is a 1.5 if I've ever seen it.

01:15:47 Speaker_02
Titans by 1.5 over the Pats.

01:15:49 Speaker_05
That's what I said. I tried to think about it and I gave up and so I went to the go to one and a half. It is three. The Titans are a 3.5. They're terrible. Jesus.

01:15:59 Speaker_02
They're awful. Talk about poor, like to go from Mike Vrabel to the coaching, I don't know Mike Vrabel, I don't, like I didn't, I thought like we're friends. I couldn't believe they fired him. Thought he was a really good coach.

01:16:12 Speaker_02
They have this team now that just gets like torched on special teams. They just give away games. They gave away that Bears game week one. They do two, three stupid things every week. I agree.

01:16:25 Speaker_05
The stupid, you know, I don't know what happened on the ring of pregame show today because like these guys laughed at me when I made the bills, my best bet last week against the Titans. And it took them a minute to get rolling.

01:16:35 Speaker_05
And then this week they're like, all right, which big favorite loses it's Detroit, right? I'm like, no way. They can't get out of there. They're scoring a college game.

01:16:46 Speaker_02
Well, we're not done with the poop fact that we have our own category. One, two, three, four, five. I wrote down seven O's. It's the Poobfecta. Saints at Panthers. Holy moly, will I not watch one minute of this game.

01:17:04 Speaker_02
You could bring in TVs and I would throw them against the wall over watching this.

01:17:12 Speaker_05
They toss you 10 iPads, the Apple Store brings them to your house. No, not putting them on.

01:17:16 Speaker_02
My goal next week is to not watch a single play from this game, unless it's cut into a game I'm watching where they're like, let's go to Carolina.

01:17:24 Speaker_05
We already saw it. There was a 47-10 in the original, right?

01:17:29 Speaker_02
When we were talking about the Saints with the 99 Rams. No, they've lost six straight. I have a Saints minus three.

01:17:37 Speaker_03
okay this floored me and you get it again i think you you won the week at this point yeah i said two i said two and a half it's six and a half

01:17:48 Speaker_02
Well, Rahim said this on the Sunday pregame show today, which is excellent, you should watch it on YouTube TV every week. Cousin Sal's on it.

01:17:56 Speaker_02
11 o'clock on Sundays, YouTube TV, put it in your library on YouTube TV, YouTube TV, great product, and then it's right there. And Rahim was like, his model had them, what, 16 points behind every other team?

01:18:10 Speaker_06
Right. Yeah.

01:18:12 Speaker_02
Minus 16 or something. Which is like kind of being borne out week to week to week where they're just getting slaughtered.

01:18:17 Speaker_05
Yeah.

01:18:18 Speaker_02
So, yeah, maybe that's why.

01:18:19 Speaker_05
Six and a half. Well, I guess cars coming back. Oh, they're just so bad. They're just so bad. They lost 28-14 to Denver. Yeah, I guess it makes sense.

01:18:29 Speaker_02
Sunday night, Vikings-Colts in Minnesota. Flexed. I don't know how you start Richardson in this game. with the way the Vikings and Flores, you have to start Flacco, but I think they're just kind of pot committed to Richland at this point.

01:18:48 Speaker_02
I have Vikings by four and a half.

01:18:52 Speaker_05
I thought with that explanation, you're gonna go higher. I went five and a half, it's six and a half.

01:18:58 Speaker_07
Let me count, there's no way, right? Four, five, six, seven, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10. No, not that.

01:19:06 Speaker_05
Yeah. Well, you'll put that in a teaser. I mean, the Vikings coming off a loss on extended rest. You love that. If Flacco plays, I'm betting the Colts.

01:19:19 Speaker_02
I think the Colts have been playing pretty well. Their quarterbacks really hurt them, but I think their defenses look better. They can run the ball. I like their receivers. I just think their quarterback's just been bad.

01:19:29 Speaker_05
I think I don't like them because they have a lot of fantasy players who have let me down, and it might be because of Anthony Richardson, but Michael Pittman.

01:19:36 Speaker_05
Those are a ton of second-tier receivers, like Pittman and Flowers, and I have all of them that just don't ever produce.

01:19:44 Speaker_02
Monday night. Somehow the chiefs are home for another Monday nighter. The league's really throwing them some bones this season.

01:19:50 Speaker_04
Yeah. I'm like, are you playing a Monday night at home and narrowhead edges bring on a Sunday, Mike, come on. I don't want to go to Minnesota.

01:19:58 Speaker_02
It's reason chiefs home for the bucks. And I'm going to say chiefs by seven.

01:20:09 Speaker_05
I said six, nine and a half. Oh, Jesus. They're just killing Tampa.

01:20:17 Speaker_03
Not the Chiefs necessarily, the odd Fandle, just no respect.

01:20:23 Speaker_02
And they put up some lot of yards today.

01:20:25 Speaker_05
Yeah.

01:20:27 Speaker_02
Well, that's it. Another win for me.

01:20:30 Speaker_05
Yeah, you're up. I need you on codeine. This is a problem. 531, you're up after nine weeks.

01:20:37 Speaker_02
Thanks again to Workday for sponsoring this segment. Be a finance and HR rockstar with Workday. To learn more, visit Workday. Yeah, I knew I was getting super sick on that last Sunday and then I got killed. I was sick all week. You were delirious.

01:20:56 Speaker_02
I was like so sick.

01:20:58 Speaker_06
I know.

01:20:59 Speaker_02
I had it a few weeks ago. Sucks. Yeah, I thought, I was like, am I dying? Like, is this just what happens when we get old? Because I was sick all the way to like Friday.

01:21:07 Speaker_05
I do wonder that. Yeah, I was like, is this something I would have been able to shake off at 33? But then I'm like, no, I don't think so.

01:21:14 Speaker_02
The good news is on Tuesday, or maybe Wednesday, one of those days, I couldn't get out of bed. I needed something to watch, and I'd gone through all the Soprano seasons. I'd finished season seven.

01:21:25 Speaker_02
So I was like, do I just run it back and start in season one? I was like, nah. So I put on that Aaron Hernandez show.

01:21:32 Speaker_06
Oh, yeah.

01:21:34 Speaker_02
And I thought it would be like this terrible show that I, it would like, I'd be in a haze. I'd be barely paying attention, but I'd kind of enjoy it. It wasn't bad. I kind of liked it. Really? Yeah, I kind of did.

01:21:47 Speaker_02
And all the stuff that's been cut out on Twitter about Aaron Hernandez trying to run that out and up. They pulled out the funniest stuff, like the Belichick guy who's doing this crazy SNL impersonation of Belichick.

01:22:00 Speaker_05
Yeah, all the reveals. The reveals are big, right?

01:22:03 Speaker_02
When Kraft walks in the room, it's a big thing. When you're watching it hour to hour, it doesn't seem as bad. I gotta be honest, I kind of avoided the Hernandez story. I knew he had a couple crimes. Well, you're watching the nonsense version, though.

01:22:20 Speaker_05
Watch the three documentaries that are out on it.

01:22:23 Speaker_02
But I didn't watch any of those, so I didn't know a lot of the background. And the show lays it out, kind of how he ends up unraveling. I don't know, it was pretty compelling.

01:22:34 Speaker_02
It wasn't great, but it was no better or worse than all the other stuff I watched, like the Menendez Brothers. They're all the same show. But the bonus for me was it was a typical kind of stupid brain salad show, but it was my team.

01:22:53 Speaker_02
So it was like, it was the Patriot uniforms. It's like, oh my God, that's Alex Guerrero. And then Kraft comes in and it's some actor playing Kraft and Myra Kraft's there.

01:23:00 Speaker_02
And I don't know, I kind of, I was like almost unconscious, but I kind of enjoyed it.

01:23:04 Speaker_05
Yeah, I've been going back and forth between Menendez and Hernandez. And you're right, they are kind of the same, but yeah, but there's just, it just, they need consultants though. When like, they're going to take, when Aaron Hernandez,

01:23:16 Speaker_05
is six feet out of the end zone and they call it a touchdown. Like, come on, if I want that, I'll watch the real games.

01:23:23 Speaker_02
This is the agency I've wanted to do forever, the sports movie, sports TV consultant agency.

01:23:27 Speaker_05
How is that hard?

01:23:29 Speaker_02
Yeah, they had, like a recurring thing is his brother is an aspiring quarterback, because he played like a UConn. Let's just say they didn't use any CGI for the throws.

01:23:40 Speaker_02
I do feel like the sports scenes now in all these shows and movies are amazing, because they can just CGI the crowd. You really feel like you're watching a game. They're much better. I don't know, it kept my interest.

01:23:51 Speaker_05
They're much better. And the Gronk guy is hilarious too, and he's like good friends with Gronk, which is the guy who plays him. Oh, is that true? Yeah. Yeah. He's been his body double in commercials and everything else. So they're, they're buddies.

01:24:04 Speaker_02
I was thinking they do this based on a true story thing.

01:24:08 Speaker_06
Yeah.

01:24:09 Speaker_02
And what that, that gives you a ton of leeway, right? So they could kind of sneak two or three things in there that aren't necessarily true.

01:24:16 Speaker_02
Like why not just have Hernandez get drunk with Belichick one night and try to make a move on Belichick and Belichick. Like what, what are the lines of things you can do on a, based on a true story?

01:24:27 Speaker_05
I think it's, um, there's been so many of these and, uh, I don't even know, like the Freddie Mercury one was nuts. Like when, when and where he was sick at the time, they really took liberties with that.

01:24:38 Speaker_02
The Elton John one was supposedly crazy. Like once, once it's based on, you can do basically whatever you want.

01:24:44 Speaker_05
Yeah, like Dahmer dated Princess Di. It doesn't even matter anymore. It's really nuts the way they put it together.

01:24:50 Speaker_02
Could he have a kind of a sexting relationship with Roger Goodell? Just throw that in there for no reason? I think so. Hey Roger, what are you wearing tonight? I don't know.

01:24:59 Speaker_02
It just feels like, I wish they would almost get crazier when they do these shows. No one's really been successful suing

01:25:05 Speaker_05
on something like that. So I wonder if you take it to the extreme.

01:25:09 Speaker_02
Yeah, like how far could it go? I guess everything has to be rooted in fact, but like when he goes in, there's a scene where he asks Belichick for a trade, right? And it's just the two of them in the room.

01:25:19 Speaker_02
So there's no way to actually know what happened. And Belichick's like, we just gave you a new contract. What are you talking about? We can't trade you. But like, what if that didn't happen? Could Belichick sue? It's like his word against the dead guy's.

01:25:31 Speaker_05
Right.

01:25:32 Speaker_02
It's too hard to prove. Yeah. I don't know.

01:25:35 Speaker_05
Aaron, which one's the dead guy?

01:25:36 Speaker_02
Oh, Belichick's not the dead guy. Belichick was pretty lively last week. He was throwing darts left and right. I know he was. Yeah, it was just kind of nuts that that guy was on our team.

01:25:46 Speaker_02
As now we've been further removed from him, like, holy shit, this guy was a fucking maniac.

01:25:52 Speaker_05
He played a year as a murderer. Right. He played a full year.

01:25:57 Speaker_02
after the murders. It didn't take much to set him off, I'll tell you that much.

01:26:02 Speaker_02
And then he got this house and he had this whole wall of guns, which I know it's based on a true story, maybe it was three guns and they decided to add 12, but he had like a fucking Tony Montana wall of guns in case somebody came after him.

01:26:15 Speaker_02
He was just absolutely out of his mind. They kind of intimate that there was some CTE stuff with him too, which I'm sure is true.

01:26:21 Speaker_05
Of course, yeah. I think they took a look at his brain, it wasn't pretty.

01:26:26 Speaker_02
Yeah, there's two left, so he still has a couple murders left and some jail, so we'll see how that goes, but yeah. Good luck. I don't know, we're running out of guys like this to do shows about.

01:26:38 Speaker_05
Yeah, you're right.

01:26:39 Speaker_02
They're almost gonna have to start running back things that they've already done. Like, I know they did Bundy five years ago, but maybe just bring him back again.

01:26:46 Speaker_05
Are you saying step it up, athletes? We need more atrocities for the current athletes?

01:26:54 Speaker_02
Come on, Shohei, what are you doing here? Yeah, I would watch nine episodes of the Shohei Interpreter thing.

01:27:00 Speaker_04
I would too.

01:27:01 Speaker_02
That sounds great. It's gotta be coming out, yeah. So I went to game two yesterday, and neither of us have done a pod since that Freddie Freeman game, which I think was the most important baseball game probably the last eight years.

01:27:16 Speaker_02
Is that fair, since Coach Game Seven?

01:27:17 Speaker_07
Yeah, I think that's good, yep.

01:27:19 Speaker_02
Like one of the five most memorable baseball games of this century. I felt like everybody was watching it or knew about it. It was a Friday night, big stars, the biggest two franchises we have, and really like a crazy memorable game.

01:27:36 Speaker_02
And then the game yesterday was pretty good too. And then Otani gets hurt in the eighth inning and the crowd, he doesn't get up. And the crowd was like, that was it. The crowd was dead after that.

01:27:48 Speaker_02
It was just like, they heard the headlights, but it seems like he's gonna play game three. I'm like a pig in shit watching how bad it's going for Judge. Does that make me a bad person? I don't know.

01:27:58 Speaker_05
No, I don't think so.

01:27:59 Speaker_05
I think it's a lot of fun, but I, I'm going to sound like a sap here, but you know, for that game one, the overall ratings were great and the LA ratings were superb, but the New York ratings weren't so, weren't as high as they expected.

01:28:14 Speaker_05
And they, they chalk it up to, well, when one New York team is out, those fans don't care. So like Mets fans aren't watching as much of the Dodgers, Yankees. I can't get enough of it.

01:28:24 Speaker_05
Like just growing up and seeing them having played each other in that uniform matchup and everything, I kinda hate them both. I definitely hate the Yankees more. And the LA backdrop and everything, it's just beautiful. It's beautiful.

01:28:38 Speaker_02
And the Dodgers have incredible fans. And I've been saying this since we moved out here. I think you took me to my first Dodger game like 20 plus years ago. Yeah, we double dated. But like the amount of jerseys,

01:28:52 Speaker_02
I was trying to think like, what's the best final event game to go to out of the four sports? And I actually think it's the World Series.

01:29:00 Speaker_02
Because Super Bowl, you have a lot of people who don't care about either team or they're just there, it's corporate. Basketball and hockey, it's super exciting, but it basically just feels like a bigger version of the conference finals.

01:29:14 Speaker_02
It doesn't feel different. It feels important, but it doesn't feel like any like crazy more weight than, I don't know, game seven of the Eastern finals. It just feels different.

01:29:26 Speaker_05
Going as a non-fan?

01:29:27 Speaker_02
Like you're not, I mean, I know you're- I'm saying whether you're a non-fan or a fan, it's just, there's a different vibe to it. It really feels like so special.

01:29:34 Speaker_02
Like they have the different, all the stuff before the game, the banners they put up, the special hats with the logos that sell out immediately, like everything about it. It's all good.

01:29:45 Speaker_05
But the intensity, and I don't know, you can make a case that there's, for all those sports, there's intense, but when I went to game two of Mets-Dodgers, even though they won by, it was like six, three bases loaded, and the fans were going nuts.

01:29:59 Speaker_05
I'm like, I have nowhere to hide. I wanna hide somewhere. I wanna be home right now. Why am I doing this to myself? So that's a tough thing to match.

01:30:09 Speaker_02
We had, I wasn't driving yesterday, but we left after the bottom of the eighth, because the Dodgers were up three runs. And I think we would have stayed if it was a one run game. I also wasn't in charge, but it's a two and a half hour decision.

01:30:23 Speaker_02
If you stay for the final out, it's just an extra two hours, so you just have to decide. If it was the Red Sox, obviously I wouldn't have left, but I don't know of another, team in any sport that has that kind of traffic decision after.

01:30:40 Speaker_02
It's two and a half hours. That's like driving from Boston to Greenwich, Connecticut.

01:30:45 Speaker_05
It's no picnic getting there either, no matter where you live. And I think people in small towns listen to this and like, what's wrong with these guys? We have a team in Kansas City and it's fine. We're in and out. You don't understand.

01:30:58 Speaker_05
It's like a nine hour commitment, the game being three hour. And four of those hours are definitely gonna suck. So you really gotta wanna go.

01:31:08 Speaker_02
Yeah, we left at 2.45 yesterday for the game started at 5.15. That's too late. And then the game, no, we were able to, I was with somebody that knew some secret roads. There's like that whole secret road universe too.

01:31:24 Speaker_02
But yeah, it's like after the game, if you leave at the same time of everybody pouring out, you're in the parking lot for two hours.

01:31:31 Speaker_06
Right, yeah.

01:31:33 Speaker_02
going one mile an hour stop, one mile an hour stop. Oh, this person wants to get in. Fuck you, I'm further ahead than you. And it's just, that's two hours. And I don't know how they haven't figured this out.

01:31:44 Speaker_02
They make the most money out of any baseball franchise. Have they not figured out any version of trying to fix this?

01:31:50 Speaker_05
And here's what's bad about it. You got happy Dodger fans who were immediately put in a shitty mood hour or two of trying to, you know, not getting a fender bender, weaving in and out of that, you know, whatever, Vince Scully drive.

01:32:03 Speaker_05
And then you got the angry fans who left because their team lost, who are just on 10, you know, who just want to kill anybody. Aaron Hernandez remake right there.

01:32:14 Speaker_02
But the funniest part of all of this is it's such a fucking hassle to get there and to leave. But then when you go there, it's one of the best stadiums in any professional sport. It's out of control. That's so cool.

01:32:27 Speaker_05
Everybody should go now.

01:32:28 Speaker_02
It's it's I think to me, how many must stadiums are there for you? Uh. Because I actually thought Dallas was, when we went to Dallas, I thought that was on the list for me, the Cowboy Stadium. Fenway's gotta be there. Wrigley? Dodger Stadium?

01:32:50 Speaker_02
What else would you say?

01:32:51 Speaker_05
Lambeau, Lambeau definitely. Lambeau. Clippers? Put it in there, only because it's so different.

01:32:56 Speaker_02
I haven't been there yet, I don't have an answer.

01:32:58 Speaker_05
Everybody loves it. Everyone goes wild for it. People are pretty fired up for the wall. Yeah. The wall is t-shirts being thrown by the actual athletes on a screen.

01:33:08 Speaker_02
I've never been to the Montreal stadium, the hockey stadium, but I, I don't know like how cathedrally it feels when you go in there and how much history you can feel, but that's one I've always wanted to hit.

01:33:18 Speaker_05
Well, you don't, you don't like the college ones, but there's probably four or five we should hit before it's over.

01:33:23 Speaker_02
Well, college there's like another 10, right?

01:33:25 Speaker_05
Yeah.

01:33:25 Speaker_02
Yeah. I was just going pros. Yeah, college, there's a million of them. How many have you, how many have you actually gone to? Probably not that many. I haven't gone to that many either.

01:33:35 Speaker_05
Not too many. Syracuse was fun because it was right by me and it was loud, but not too many other than that. And Rose Bowl and Oregon was great. How was your Halloween party? It was good. Nephew Kyle and I went, we had the same costume though. What was it?

01:33:51 Speaker_05
Kyle, who are we? Matt Foley? It was an SNL theme. which I thought was good, because it's a- Double Matt Foley's? Yeah, it's the 50 year, I'll send you the picture. And Don Barris' girlfriend was also Matt Foley.

01:34:04 Speaker_05
But yeah, we did the 50 year, and it was kind of a good theme, because it spans a lot of generations, and you got a good sense of who got to see, you know, like, oh, this is one you watch, oh, interesting, you watch these.

01:34:17 Speaker_05
So yeah, that was, yeah, nephew Kyle and I, we just stood on opposite sides of the yard the whole night.

01:34:22 Speaker_02
Was anyone the more cowbell guy, or no?

01:34:24 Speaker_05
Yeah, our friend Will Burke, that was another Cowboy Bell guy. All right, let's do Parent Corner, what do you got? Let's do it. All right, so, I mean, I got so much stuff. It's at a wrestling tournament, 6.15 in the morning Saturday.

01:34:39 Speaker_05
Wrestling tournament? Yeah, like the real stuff, the high school stuff, but that's, whatever, we went and he lost and that was that. All right, here's something. A girl likes my 10-year-old Harrison, and we found the note

01:34:54 Speaker_05
And he was at this stage where he doesn't want anything to do with girls, right? He's all sports. I think sports is the cool thing, right? We found the note and it fell out of his backpack and it really did. We didn't go digging.

01:35:04 Speaker_05
And it said, thanks for everything. I love you. And then the girl's name, I'm not going to say. Uh, it was like, thanks for everything. I love, what are they? I love you, Aaron Hernandez. What is going on? He's thanking, getting thanked for everything.

01:35:19 Speaker_02
How do you know Aaron Hernandez?

01:35:22 Speaker_05
What's everything? They, they take off to Aspen after school. Like, so after we, uh, we had to ask him about it and, um, And he immediately gets defensive. He's like, I don't even know her. It's not for me. I don't care.

01:35:37 Speaker_05
Like three things that could not all three be true. And I was thinking like, when I was 10 or 11, I had my first girlfriend, and my parents did this to me. And you hate it, right?

01:35:48 Speaker_05
And they're like, oh yeah, you like her, and she likes you, and where are you gonna go? Are you gonna go after school? Are you gonna go somewhere? And I'm sure my parents did it to them. but it's not the right thing to do, right?

01:36:01 Speaker_05
Because I'm just pushing him further away, right, from the whole thing if I'm making fun of him. So is there any way to make fun of the situation?

01:36:10 Speaker_02
So this is, my wife and I talk about this a lot. She's like, you make it worse when you make fun of Ben. He gets mad.

01:36:15 Speaker_00
Right, right, right. But it all works out.

01:36:17 Speaker_02
I didn't know how to, I don't know how to converse if I'm not making fun. I can't just become another human being.

01:36:26 Speaker_05
Is there anyone else that does that though? Do we have any friends that play it cool and be like, I'm just going to be respectful and not asking that. No, right?

01:36:37 Speaker_02
There are probably better parents than us. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, sure. We're fueled by sarcasm and ridicule as a way of parenting our kids. They don't want to hear it from us. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what it is. So what'd you do with the note?

01:36:53 Speaker_02
Did you put it in the fridge?

01:36:53 Speaker_05
Well, I didn't do anything. No, no, no. He ended up tearing it up even though he claimed it wasn't for him and it had his name on it and everything. It's so stupid, but I just don't know.

01:37:03 Speaker_02
Well, tell me when Ben had that girlfriend for like six months. 10? 10 or 11, like fifth grade, right? 10, it's like a little platonic frisky. Nothing's actually happening, but you take pictures together.

01:37:15 Speaker_05
but it all works out. They're okay, right? It's not gonna be like, oh no, my father made fun of me, so I can't touch a girl until I'm 27.

01:37:24 Speaker_04
No, Mac, I'll tell you about Harrison, man. He's already a ladies' man. He's 10 years old, he hasn't even got the puberty bike. Look at his balls sticking out of his shorts. He doesn't know left from right. That is one horny 10-year-old, Mike.

01:37:41 Speaker_05
We don't have control of these kids anyway, right? You send them to school as a boy, they come back a girl, you know? Teachers can do it without your permission. It's crazy what goes on. Happens all the time.

01:37:57 Speaker_02
The boy stuff only gets worse. Yeah. See, Harrison's a lot like Ben.

01:38:03 Speaker_06
Yeah.

01:38:05 Speaker_02
It's only, just wait. But it flips. I think he's right.

01:38:08 Speaker_05
Because Ben was like, girls are yucky too, for a minute, wasn't he?

01:38:13 Speaker_02
Yeah, and then it completely flipped. But hated questioning, hated being interrogated in any way. Gets mad all the time. We can never get information from him. Who is that? What happened with her? Leave me alone.

01:38:30 Speaker_02
My parent corner, my son really wanted to go to this Tower of the Creator listening party at the Clippers Arena tonight. And he never really asked me for anything.

01:38:39 Speaker_02
Obviously, I have connections with music and was able to help out with some tickets, but we had to use this Intuit Dome thing. Have you downloaded that app yet? I haven't, but I heard it's not easy.

01:38:54 Speaker_02
First of all, it has one star on Apple, which I think is maybe high, out of five. Super hard. So the person who's getting the tickets, they were trying to transfer it to him and it wasn't working because he signed up today.

01:39:12 Speaker_02
Maybe there was like, whatever. So they had to transfer it to me and then I couldn't transfer it to him and it was on the thing. He's now yelling at me. I'm like, all I did was try to get you with it. Now it's my fault. I don't understand why you can't.

01:39:25 Speaker_02
They just like instantly start turning on you. And I'm into a dome hell. Then I'm like, you just log in as me, just put it on your thing, log in as me, and you'll be able to get the ticket.

01:39:36 Speaker_02
He logs in as me, it locks out the account, now I have to change my password.

01:39:40 Speaker_02
I'm trying to watch Niners Cowboys, prepare for the pod, he's yelling at me, it's just going back and forth, now I changed my password, it's on, I gotta figure out how to transfer it.

01:39:52 Speaker_02
And it's now my wife's involved, now she's yelling at him, and all this is going on during the first half of the game as I'm trying to figure out, guess the lines, all that stuff. And it's just this two-hour odyssey.

01:40:04 Speaker_02
And then I don't hear anything for a little bit. He's panicking. Third quarter of the game, I don't hear anything for a half hour. And I'm like, hey, did you get in? And he just replies, yeah. No, thank you. No, thank you. No. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you.

01:40:26 Speaker_02
That was really nice. Thanks. I'm, I'm so glad I'm in. I'm pumped. Hey, I know I was a pain in the ass. Sorry. Just yeah. Three words, three letters. Yeah. So that was it. That's what it is when you're trying to do something nice for your son.

01:40:40 Speaker_02
Are you still mad at you? He's probably mad. He's a fucking dad. Into it Dom. So stupid.

01:40:47 Speaker_05
You wouldn't have had to change your password. I would have gotten in 10 minutes before.

01:40:51 Speaker_02
I don't know that this Intuit Dome, where they measure your biometrics, and they take pictures of your face, and nobody else can use your account, and you can't transfer tickets. We might have gone too far.

01:41:02 Speaker_05
Well, and it's cashless once you get in, and you wave it like a wand, and you just take food. I don't even think there's a concessionaire from what I was told. You take food, and it knows what you took, kind of like from a mini bar.

01:41:15 Speaker_02
It does feel like a 2006 J.K.O. bit that you would have done. Where you go in and you just take like $700 of food and try to see how much you can get through without actually paying for all that. Whatever, I don't understand it.

01:41:30 Speaker_02
It's a little creepy though. I don't know if I like it or not. Apparently there's like 2,000 cameras in the building and they can photograph everybody at all times. They know when you walk in. It's definitely, I guess, what the future's gonna look like.

01:41:43 Speaker_05
And then there's the cheering section and all that, right?

01:41:46 Speaker_02
The wall. Durant said it was good. Yeah, he said it was, all right, I'm going next week, so I'll be able to report back.

01:41:51 Speaker_05
All right, you gotta report back, because I'm excited about this.

01:41:54 Speaker_02
All right, that's it for Parent Corner. Anything else you got?

01:41:56 Speaker_05
Yeah, through the Ringer with Tate Frazier. He's a delightful man, lots of fun. We got against the Lodz a couple times on Ringer Podcast Network, the Ringer Pre Game Show, Sundays, and on Cousin Sal's winning weekend this Friday.

01:42:11 Speaker_05
I should have you guess who my guest is. Major movie. Aaron Hernandez? It's Aaron Hernandez, shit.

01:42:17 Speaker_02
Tower of the Crater?

01:42:18 Speaker_05
Well, that wasn't fun. You guessed right away, yeah. How about this, I'll give you three guesses, and I'll give you these two hints. He was featured, he starred in a movie about sports gambling, and he was- Matthew McConaughey. Oh, you son of a bitch.

01:42:36 Speaker_05
You got it.

01:42:36 Speaker_02
Well, that was an easy hint. I'd like to for the money.

01:42:38 Speaker_05
Yeah, no, I shouldn't have said that. It's a good movie. You didn't think it was like Paul Newman?

01:42:42 Speaker_02
Piven was like the Chad Millman character in it.

01:42:44 Speaker_05
Yeah, right. I got Matthew McConaughey, that's fun.

01:42:48 Speaker_02
So you liked it for the money? I kinda like it. CR wants to do it for Rewatchables. He's been pushing it.

01:42:53 Speaker_05
I wanna watch it again because I remember, you know, because we're nuts and I know the premise was a little bit out there, but I'm gonna watch it again.

01:43:02 Speaker_02
Alright. Cousin Sal is always, good job by you! Good job by you, buddy! Alright, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Cousin Sal. Thanks to Kyle Creighton and Steve Cerruti as well. Don't forget you can watch

01:43:17 Speaker_02
clips from this podcast, as well as the entire show on the Bill Simmons YouTube channel. New Rewatchables coming Monday night. I'm going to have another podcast on Tuesday. I'll see you then.

01:43:51 Speaker_02
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