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Episode: A.A.R.M. Pt 2

Author: Audacy & Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey
Duration: 01:27:38

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This week we’re breaking down “A.A.R.M. Pt 2”. The office gets to give Darryl a proper send off, Andy’s audition for “America’s Next A Cappella Sensation” goes awry, and Dwight proposes to Angela Martin. We hear more clips from Jessica St. Clair as well as clips from Santigold on what

it was like to be a judge for “America’s Next A Cappella Sensation”. The ladies break down the Dwight and Angela Martin proposal scene, Angela shares about the first time she met Aaron Rodgers and Jenna breaks down elevator shoes. So don’t tell Creed’s parents, this is a great episode! Check out Catie’s Etsy store Ravens and Widow - https://www.etsy.com/shop/ravensandwidow Check out Office Ladies Merch at Podswag: https://www.podswag.com/collections/office-ladies Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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In this episode of 'Office Ladies,' hosts Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey discuss the finale of 'The Office' titled 'A.A.R.M. Pt 2.' They share memories of filming the emotional proposal between Dwight and Angela, highlight celebrity appearances by Aaron Rodgers and Santigold, and recount amusing audition mishaps involving Andy Bernard. The hosts reflect on the significance of their experiences on the show and what the series means to them and its audience. Key moments include heartfelt farewells, nostalgic reflections, and humorous anecdotes, underscoring the lasting bond formed among the cast and the beloved legacy of 'The Office.'

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Hello. Hi, everybody. It is AARM Part 2. You know what that means. Next week is the finale.

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Yeah.

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Wow. This is Season 9, Episode 25, written by Brent Forrester and directed by Dave Rogers. And here's your summary. Newly convinced that Philip is his son, Dwight unromantically proposes marriage to Angela. She says no.

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With the help of the documentary crew, Jim reassures Pam that she is more than enough for him. Daryl's coworkers make one last request before he leaves. Andy's singing dreams are shattered by Clay Aiken. And Dwight proposes again.

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romantically to Angela, and she says, yes, nothing says romance like a bullhorn. That's one of my favorite parts of that scene. Well, everyone, I am holding my pockets mug again, but it's not because I have a soapbox today.

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It is because we have found Katie. Katie, the maker of the Pockets mug and the Hummingbird mug. Which I am holding right now as well. Kaia Goodwin from South Carolina went full mom detective, although she actually solved this case.

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So, slightly mom detective.

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Yes. She found Katie and Cassie was able to get in touch with her. And everybody, Katie has an Etsy store for her pottery. It's so beautiful. Katie, you are so talented. Jenna and I have already picked a few things we want to buy. It's true.

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We told Katie we would share about her Etsy shop. Now, I believe she's willing to make more pocket mugs, but please be kind to her because she is just one gal making amazing pottery.

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So we don't want to overwhelm her. With pocket mugs and hummingbird mugs, you have to be patient. She makes everything herself.

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Yes. Her Etsy shop is called Ravens and Widow, and we will link to it in our stories.

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We sure will.

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Cheers, lady. Cheers. All right, so here we go. Fast fact number one, let's talk about the next a cappella sensation celebrity judges, Aaron Rodgers, Clay Aiken, and Santigold. Can you believe it? We got these three? Amazing.

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So when we got the script for this, when we did the table read, there were just like placeholders. It was like pop star, country star, and athlete. And we found Sante Gold and Clay Eakins through Alison Jones.

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But our own Brian Baumgartner is how we got Aaron Rodgers.

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That's true.

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Because he had met Aaron at like a celebrity golf tournament or something. Yeah. And Aaron Rodgers was a huge fan of The Office. Like super fan. Super fan. He even came to set one time.

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Remember when we were filming and he wanted to take pictures with all of us? Yes. So after the table read, Brian went to Greg and the producers and was like, hey, how about athlete is Aaron Rodgers? I mean, he would flip out to do this.

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And that is how we got Aaron Rodgers, who, by the way, had just recently led the Green Bay Packers to victory in the Super Bowl and was the Super Bowl and NFL season MVP for that season.

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Yeah. You know, I have a little bit of an embarrassing story. of when I first met Aaron. Okay. So Brian had done the golf tournament with him. Yeah. And they became friends.

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And I don't know if it was like a few weeks later or what, but Brian texted me and was like, hey, my friend's in town. We're going to go have dinner. Do you want to join us? I'm going to get a group of people together for dinner. I was like, sure.

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Sounds great. All I knew was his friend played sports. Right? That's it. Brian didn't say anything else in the text.

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So I go to this dinner and man, oh man, am I noticing people like from every walk of life tripping over themselves to say hi to Brian's friend.

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And I'm sitting next to him at dinner and we're talking about work and stuff and I go, so you play football? And he said, I do. And I said, that's so fun. That's really cool. And I was like, what position do you play? He said, I'm a quarterback.

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And I go, wow. That's like big time. And then we don't really talk any more about it. We just talk about all kinds of other stuff. And this is when I had just started dating Josh.

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And the next day, he and I are on the phone, and he was like, how was your dinner with Brian and his friends? I said, so fun. I met such a nice guy. I think he's a quarterback for, I think, Seattle, something with a bird, maybe a hawk.

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And he goes, what's his name? And I said, Aaron. And he goes, no, no, no, there's no quarterback named Aaron for Seattle. He goes, I go, well, I think he's a pretty big deal because people were really excited to meet him.

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And then he goes, is it Aaron Rodgers age? And I said, yes, that's it. And he goes, oh, my God, that's crazy. You had dinner with him. You had no idea. He was just so nice and just unassuming. And anyway, I didn't know he was the quarterback for Green Bay.

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Well, I have a really fun audio clip for later in the episode because there was somebody else who also did not know who he was when they met him on our set that day. Oh, yeah. I'll save it. But it made me chuckle.

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Well, I'm a huge football fan, a football person, and I remember when he came to set and I was just so tickled that he was so excited to take a picture with me. Yeah. You know, because I was like, you're Aaron Rodgers.

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Oh, there were so many fantasy football teams on our show. The whole set was so excited to have him visit.

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It's very true. Well, I'm excited to talk about another big guest star from this episode. It's our fast fact number two, and it is Santigold. Angela, we have a story about her. We were at a benefit, a fundraiser where she was performing.

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Yes, we got pretty excited. This is recently. This is a long time since she's been on the show.

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Yeah, this was just a few years ago, you guys.

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It was. First of all, I'll say we were right at the front. Like, we were right at the lip of the stage. We were dancing hardcore. Yeah, we were. She was playing Creator, my favorite song. And can we have it, by the way? Could we listen to some of that?

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Oh my gosh, yes. Can we? Can we play a little bit of it? I'd like to.

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Because I want you to understand, this is what Angela and I are rocking out to at, like, the front of this performance. The very front of the stage. Yes.

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All the attention that it brings. Tell me no, I say yes, I was chosen. And I will deliver the explosion. Can't say it's going to get me far. Do no good to say what you are. I run the streets and I break up houses. River runs deep in the flames.

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OK, so that is one of my songs I listen to when I want to feel like a badass boss lady. That's right. So we are two badass boss ladies. We are rocking out at the foot of the stage. And she says, everybody come up. Come up. Come on stage and dance with me.

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We're like, we will. We're like, heck yeah. We start to mount the stage and a big, beefy guy, he was a bouncer. Like a bouncer person. Yeah, who worked at the venue, was like, you will not be going on stage.

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And she was like, you are, come on up on stage. We're like, she's saying we can go. And he's like, I'm saying you cannot.

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We almost got thrown out. I mean, one or two gals made it up on stage. We didn't.

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I was jealous.

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He pretty much, like, just gently picked me up and set me on the ground.

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He shut it down pretty quickly. But he was like, I will ask you ladies to leave if you do not stop trying to climb on the stage. I was like, oh no, we don't want to get thrown out.

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We don't want to get thrown out. Also, you guys, we were totally sober. We were. We were just really excited. She said, come up on stage.

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She did. But I know Santi, and she's an amazing person. And I traded text messages with her, and she said that she would send in audio clips for this episode. Here's the first one. She's going to tell us how she got her job on The Office.

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Oh, my God, I just watched the link that you sent me. It's so funny. He's so great. So, yeah, I, I, I was a huge fan of The Office from the beginning of The Office. I was a fan of The Office when it was just the UK version of The Office.

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And then when it turned to the US version, I remember it was so different, but yet I don't want to say funnier, but it kind of was. It was just so good. And so from the very beginning, I was watching it and I had seen pretty much every episode.

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So what happened was I, it was like I had been touring for quite a while and, and I wanted to do something just that seemed fresh and knew something that I didn't know how to do. And that seemed fun. So I started, I started taking some

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acting classes and I went on, I think it was my very first audition was for Anchorman 2. And I went and the casting agent, she said that I did really, really well and she really liked me.

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And then she was like, but because I had never acted before, the director wanted to go with someone who had more experience. So, you know, so I didn't get that. But she was like, really nice. So she called me very shortly after.

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And she's like, but would you want to come on The Office? And I couldn't believe it. I was like, that was like my dream. Like it because I just really wanted to be on something funny. Like, I don't think I even really wanted to ever be an actor.

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I just wanted to be on something funny. And The Office was like my number one wish list. So, yeah. So and I get to come on and just play myself. And so that's how that happened. And I was so excited about it. It was like a dream come true.

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Aw, so fun. Well, Dave said that she was super sweet and very talented. Dave also said she was so friendly and really warm. But then when the cameras started rolling, she had to just switch into just like pissed off.

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And he said it was a really funny thing to watch her have to do that.

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I can relate.

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Well, I have more audio clips from Santi that I'll play later in the episode. But now, Angela, it's over to you for Fast Fact 3.

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Yes. OK. So you guys know that I have been watching The Office A Look Back. It's the bonus feature on Disc 4, Season 9. I have some more to share from it. I am titling this first part, Feeling All the Feels. OK. Here's the cast talking about the show.

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Very cheesy music, just wow.

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We knew we were a part of something different and new, which was always thrilling.

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I can't think of another thing that I've done for this long that is so important to me.

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I was on the set for this finale and I was looking around and I was just struck by the fact that there's no way you could assemble this type of cast again.

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It was just my absolute pleasure to be a part of this show. I'm really proud of what we did.

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I've been waiting here for 45 minutes.

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And the people are amazing.

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What's great about the show that in its heart is an optimistic show and I think that that is its legacy.

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Gosh, Angela, I was trying to eat a snack while you played that clip, and then I got choked up. I couldn't swallow.

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I watched it all happen. It's pretty emotional to watch this. OK, and then I wanted to share a second part, which is just us reflecting on, will it hold up?

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And then also sharing the fact that we were entering those weeks where it was like our last table read, our last hot snack, our last time in hair and makeup, and it was really hitting us all. I hope it holds up.

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You know, I turn on Nick at Night, and I see Roseanne, or I see Everybody Loves Raymond. They're great. Seinfeld holds up. Years later, you watch these shows, and they still make you laugh, and I just hope we're one of those shows.

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I don't think anybody thought we would go over 200 episodes. It is very emotional right now on the set. Everything is the last something.

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And I have one more thing to share. It's from my digital clutter. It's dated May 10, 2013, which was after this episode aired. And it's from Dave Rogers. Hey, gang.

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I just wanted to thank everyone again for really kicking ass and doing what you do to make AARM such a truly special episode.

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I could not be happier or more proud of what we accomplished, and I am thrilled with the amazing feedback we've been getting from fans and critics alike.

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I am so honored to have earned the opportunity and trust to direct and edit such a pinnacle episode.

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Greg, Claire, and I are deep into the finale, and I can tell you that that, too, will be an unbelievably spectacular sendoff for one of the greatest television shows of all time. See you soon. Dave.

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Oh, that's really sweet. You know, in that first clip, I guess I said something about how I didn't think I had been involved in something for so long that had such an impact on my life or something like that. Yeah. And I remember thinking that.

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I remember thinking like how my memory of high school or my memory of college, those years are like were so influential on my life and were so formative. And the office was both of those combined together. Yeah.

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Like, that's how much time we spent there.

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Yeah. A lot of life happened. Well, that was Fast Fact 3. I'll be sharing more next week.

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OK.

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So get your tissues ready for next week, lady.

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OK. I'm not ready for next week. I know.

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I'm not either. I'm not.

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Well, why don't we take a break, and we'll be back to break down AARM Part 2.

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Oscar is holding Philip. Philip's being a little fussy. And Dwight comes over and offers to hold him. And immediately, Philip stops crying. I want you guys to know this really happened.

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If you notice, there's no cutaways because when Rain held the baby, the baby actually stopped crying instantly. It was really amazing. And if you watch Oscar's reaction, it's really earnest. He's like, wow, I'm impressed. Rain is the baby whisperer.

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Well, this was a callback to the viewing party episode in Season 7 when Dwight is the only one who can calm Cece. That was like a plot point of that episode. But when we got on set, we found that it was also true that Rainn Wilson could calm babies.

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Yes. It's just so wild. I mean, he is a tall person. I think maybe they feel safe in his arms. He's kind of like a big person to wrap arms around you.

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I don't know. I know. He's the baby whisperer. Yep. Well, now Dwight is going to take Philip into his office. He's actually on a mission to find out now if maybe Philip is really his son. So they're going to play a game called Shrute or Consequences.

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How great were our toddler actors, Vince and Evan?

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I know.

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So cute.

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So, so good. Well, you know, in this scene, Dwight is trying to get Philip to choose between a dirty old beat or a check for a million dollars.

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And I don't know who appeared in this scene, if it was Vince or Evan, but he was only supposed to point to the beat. But he said, beat. Oh, it's so cute. And Dave said he was so excited.

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I bet. But just everything. He put his little hand in his jean pocket. It was so, gosh, it was so cute.

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So, you know, lady, I was a producer on this season. And one of the things that's really cool about that is that I have a lot of digital clutter. And so I'm going to get out a little producer digital clutter for you.

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Yay.

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So I'm not very good at saving personal emails, but when I've produced things, I keep very detailed folders. for my producing work. Okay. So I went into my folder and I found a document titled, Shrewty Things Baby Phillip Can Do. Okay.

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So sometimes the writers would do a breakout room.

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Yeah.

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Where they would just pick a few writers to go into a room and sit there and pitch ideas on a very specific thing. So here are some of the things that were pitched that did not make it. The baby crushes an empty soda can in his hands.

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Philip eats dirt from Dwight's potted plant. Angela says he has never eaten dirt before. Dwight realizes the dirt in the plant is from Shrute Farms. This one I really liked. The baby keeps walking into the manager's office.

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People joke that he really wants to be manager. That's cute. And Dwight notices. This one also made me chuckle. Pam's mom brings her baby Phillip into the office, and Jim's Phillip pranks Dwight's Phillip.

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And finally, Dwight has a spare mustard-colored shirt hanging on the back of his office door. Philip pulls it down and covers himself with it like a blanket. That's cute too.

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I know, but this was like a three-page document of all the different things that baby Philip might do to reveal that he's actually Dwight's son.

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Our writers were the best. The best. That's what they would also do with talking heads. Yes. And that's how we would get candy bags. Our next scene takes us to the break room.

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I absolutely love this Daryl runner in this episode, where everyone wants to spend time with him. They're really bummed he did the Irish exit. And Aaron says, OK, listen, for the next 12 hours, we each get 90-minute segments with Daryl.

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And Daryl's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute, OK? Maybe I made the mistake of sneaking out of here. That's on me. But I'm not going to spend the rest of the day here doing stuff with you guys because you're feeling sentimental.

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And they're instantly like, no, you have to. So Daryl said, fine, pick one thing, one thing, and I'm going to do it with all of y'all. We don't know what that thing's going to be, but they've got to go figure it out.

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Well, now we're going to check in on Andy Bernard. The last time we saw him, he was frustrated because he felt like there were certain contestants who had feel-good stories and they were getting more attention than the other people in the line.

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Yeah, so Andy was going to make sure he had a feel-good moment.

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He's going to rejoin the line dressed as an older man. He has put on age makeup.

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But Casey Dean just recognizes him immediately. And Andy's like, no, no, no, I'm an old man. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah.

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And she's like, you are shorter than before. And he's like, yeah, I took my lifts out because this character is my real height, unlike Andy Bernard. Lady, this sent me on a Google search.

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I became really curious about lifts in your shoes and how those work.

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Well, there's a lot in Hollywood.

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Well, that's why I got curious about it, because I've heard that. I've heard that the male stars wear the lifts in their shoes. If they're a little shorter. Yeah. But I'm like, how does it work?

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Well, I guess that you can wear a regular shoe, and it's just like how you imagine. There's just a little wedge that you put inside the sole, and then it bumps you up a little bit.

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Also, you might see some of your shorter male actors in a lot of cowboy boots.

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Because they have a little bit of a heel. That's a natural lift, right? Like just the shoe gives you a lift. Right.

00:25:58 Speaker_04
Well, I guess one of the problems with putting lifts in your shoes is that if you go more than, I mean, a half inch, then your heel pops out the back of your shoe. So you can actually like end up walking out of your shoes.

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They invented something called elevator shoes that look like a regular shoe, but they're more like a woman's wedge, like a wedge heel.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Are you talking about a sneaker that might have a little heel built in? No, no. Not what I'm wearing?

00:26:33 Speaker_04
No. That is not an elevator shoe because I can see that it has an exaggerated heel.

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Oh, it's sneaky.

00:26:40 Speaker_04
Yes. The elevator shoe, I watched a whole YouTube video on it by this guy who was reviewing the best elevator shoes. He was riveting. And yeah, it looks like a beautiful, I think it's even an Italian made leather businessman shoe.

00:26:59 Speaker_04
But on the inside, I don't know, it's like the way they designed it, it just looks like a shoe, but it makes you like two inches taller. That's a lot. It is. I would be like 5'3". I don't know. Maybe you need an elevator shoe. I have questions.

00:27:16 Speaker_04
What's it like to walk in them? Can you turn your ankle easily? No, it's easy to walk. According to the video, they're really comfortable and easy to walk in and actually better than putting a lift in your shoe because this forms around your foot.

00:27:30 Speaker_04
The lift, this guy was saying, is actually kind of dangerous because you can walk out of your shoe, you can twist your ankle, you're not actually getting good arch support.

00:27:39 Speaker_04
So, gentlemen out there, if you're looking for a lift, I guess the elevator shoe is what you should look into. Is your way to go.

00:27:46 Speaker_06
Mm-hmm.

00:27:47 Speaker_04
Now, the lift, obviously, you can put in and out of different pairs of shoes, which I guess gives you variety, but I don't know.

00:27:55 Speaker_05
Well, Andy Bernard probably would love an elevator shoe.

00:27:59 Speaker_04
I think he would, but not for this character, not for Old Man.

00:28:03 Speaker_05
No, not for Old Man. Old Man is shorter. Well, you know, Andy dressing up as an old man isn't going to help him because someone that works for the show comes out and says, you know what? We're done taking auditions.

00:28:13 Speaker_05
They need everyone in the line to go home. And Andy is furious. He's like, no. And he runs past the security guard into the building. Casey's going to help him out. She's going to form a distraction. She jumps on the security guy's back.

00:28:27 Speaker_05
And I love her last moment where she's like, you won't be seeing the last of Kasey Dean. We love Kasey Dean. But Andy makes it inside. He does.

00:28:36 Speaker_04
The audition moderator who gave the bad news is Ryan Bailey. He's been on Chicago Med, Arrested Development, and How I Met Your Mother. And you know, last week, we had these great audio clips from Jessica St. Clair, who played Kasey Dean.

00:28:50 Speaker_04
And she told us an amazing story about this scene right here. You have to hear it.

00:28:56 Speaker_13
Something that was funny and weird was that I was I believe like four months pregnant but I hadn't told anybody and so I did share it with the makeup artist because I was like sorry my face is so puffy and I look a little bit like the Hulk.

00:29:14 Speaker_13
But, you know, I'm pregnant. I haven't told anybody yet. And so she's like, OK, OK. And there is a scene where I have to jump on the back of a security guard who's trying to, like, drag me off the set.

00:29:28 Speaker_13
And I really wanted to impress, you know, the director and, you know, and all this one of my favorite shows. And so I really went crazy and I like launched myself onto this gigantic gentleman like a, like a cat, like a rabbit cat.

00:29:44 Speaker_13
And after the second take, the director ran out and he said, I don't want to step into your personal space, but the makeup artist has let me know you're pregnant. You might not want to throw yourself onto that man so violently.

00:30:00 Speaker_13
And so I did spend a couple of takes going, God, I hope I didn't knock that baby out of me. That'd be a real shame. Maybe it would have been worth it for the show.

00:30:15 Speaker_05
Oh, Jessica, she is so funny to me. I know. I think she's one of those people that can just read the phone book and I'd be laughing.

00:30:22 Speaker_04
I know.

00:30:22 Speaker_05
Is that still an expression? People don't even say it anymore. Because we don't really get phone books anymore.

00:30:27 Speaker_04
OK, insert read boring item and I'd still be laughing. Well, she also sent us in an audio clip just about her general takeaway from getting to do the show, and I want you to hear that too.

00:30:38 Speaker_13
So I was so excited to be with Ed in a scene. Anytime I get to be with someone from the UCB, it's very easy. It's like super easy lifting because you kind of know each other's rhythms.

00:30:50 Speaker_13
And if somebody improvises, you're ready to improvise back with them. I can't remember if there were too many things that were actually improvised. They were short little scenes, but I'm sure there were little bits and bobs back and forth.

00:31:06 Speaker_13
One of the things I love about Ed is he's not only wildly funny, but he's quite charming, so I didn't have to act too hard, you know? He's a real gentleman and a scholar, so it was really fun to get to have like a little romantic moment with Ed.

00:31:22 Speaker_13
And I remember being very panicked that I had to sing. I do that strange like, but like, I'm not a singer. I mean, I'm pretty sure I was kicked out of my college acapella group, the Miss Chords, because

00:31:40 Speaker_13
instead of singing the harmony like I was supposed to, I would just sing the melody. And they finally, they were like, we're not hearing any alto. I'm like, and you never will, bitches, because I don't know how to do that.

00:31:50 Speaker_13
So I remember being a little nervous about singing. I just had to sort of go for it and hope that it wasn't too offensive to anybody's ears. She's so funny. Everything about that clip is so funny to me.

00:32:07 Speaker_04
If you guys want to hear more from Jessica, you have to listen to her podcast, The Deep Dive, that she does with June Diane Raphael, or download her audio book, The Art of Small Talk, that she did with Casey Wilson, because it's more of that.

00:32:23 Speaker_04
So funny.

00:32:26 Speaker_05
Well, now Dwight is going to return Philip to Angela. Oscar's going to ask Dwight if he got Philip to eat. He said he won't take the bottle. And Dwight says it's because he's of superior intelligence.

00:32:36 Speaker_05
He knows when he's being tricked out of a real breast. And that's when Kevin says, well, yeah, he's not that smart. He doesn't know where I hid his toy duck. Yeah, Kevin. I know. He's still jealous. Now we're going to go to Jim's desk.

00:32:53 Speaker_05
There is the biggest envelope ever. This is a bullsh** card for me.

00:32:58 Speaker_04
I was gonna play a bullsh** card. Really? Yes! I was gonna finally play a bullsh** card here.

00:33:05 Speaker_04
You know, last week we talked about how Jim seemed to, on the fly, get an idea that he needed something from the documentary crew, and they immediately agree to whatever favor he needs. Mm-hmm.

00:33:19 Speaker_04
Now, I'm like, how many hours have passed and they have somehow assembled this disc for him?

00:33:26 Speaker_05
Nine years of footage. Nine years of footage. They edited together so quickly. Well, my bulls*** card wasn't so much about that. It was more, I titled it Big Envelope Cringe. Why? Why is your bulls**t card about the size of the envelope?

00:33:41 Speaker_05
Because it's like laughable to me. It is a giant gray envelope and then written in huge letters. It says, Jim! It's sharpie. It's like, Cameron, did you catch the envelope? Okay, let's make it bigger. It's like almost the size of like an iPad.

00:33:58 Speaker_04
Okay, the size of the envelope did not bother me in any way. It felt appropriate for a disc. So we're playing two bull**** cards. I guess so. I mean, I just want to know how they got through all of this footage so quickly. I mean... Impressive.

00:34:17 Speaker_05
Very impressive. Well, big envelope or not, Jim is very happy to have it.

00:34:22 Speaker_04
We're going to go back to the auditions. The last person is on stage. It's a young woman.

00:34:29 Speaker_05
Yes, she's very talented. She's singing Beautiful by Christina Aguilera, and it's going very well for her.

00:34:35 Speaker_04
So this gal who's singing, her name is Rachel Crow, and she was a contestant on the first season of The X Factor when she was 13 years old. I have an audio clip.

00:34:55 Speaker_08
But I gotta stay true

00:35:07 Speaker_05
I mean, that's amazing.

00:35:10 Speaker_04
She brought down the house. She went all the way to the quarterfinal round. And after that, she went on to star in the TV series Schooled. She did our show. She's done a fair amount of work in animation.

00:35:23 Speaker_04
In fact, she's the voice of Tip in the Netflix show Home Adventures with Tip and O. She's phenomenal.

00:35:30 Speaker_05
What a voice. I know. Well, I was going to point out one other person in this scene, and that is Clay Aiken. I was really rooting for him in American Idol. I will never forget his performance of Bridge Over Troubled Waters. Oh, right. So good. Yeah.

00:35:45 Speaker_05
And I brought a clip of that.

00:35:47 Speaker_04
I'm loving today.

00:35:48 Speaker_08
Like a bridge over troubled water, I will ease your mind.

00:36:10 Speaker_04
Ooh, that still packs a punch. I mean, I get chills. It's so beautiful. Wow. Wow. Well, let's see. I've got a little location breakdown for you. We shot this on location. All of us had the day off. It was two days off. Ed filmed these scenes.

00:36:40 Speaker_04
They were in Burbank, and we did not get to meet any of these folks on the day.

00:36:46 Speaker_05
No, we didn't. I know. Well, Andy is going to try to sing for them, and it does not go well at all.

00:36:56 Speaker_04
Yes, he enters as the old man, but it's very clear he's not really an old man. Aaron Rodgers calls him out, but he's going to go ahead and start singing. He's going to sing, You're Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile. And you know what?

00:37:11 Speaker_04
They aren't feeling it.

00:37:12 Speaker_05
They're not feeling it. So he quickly switches gears and he starts singing the Cornell fight song Yep. I was curious if that is the actual Cornell fight song. I assume it was. And I found a compilation of Cornell a cappella groups singing it. Well, OK.

00:37:31 Speaker_07
Far above Canuca's waters, with its waves of blue, stands our noble alma mater, glorious Dubuque.

00:37:49 Speaker_05
That's precious. How perfect is it, though, that they're acapella groups, Andy would be so proud, but the judges are not impressed. They're not.

00:37:58 Speaker_04
And then Andy has a full meltdown.

00:38:01 Speaker_05
Yeah. I can see them all trying not to laugh. All of the judges are trying not to laugh.

00:38:07 Speaker_04
Yes, I asked Santigold about this. Here's what she had to say.

00:38:11 Speaker_10
I think for me, probably the funniest part and the hardest part to hold it together was when I said to him that he couldn't just sit there and cry. And he's like, I can't sew, just sit here and cry. And he's like, really, like, yells it.

00:38:25 Speaker_10
Just now watching it, I watched it and, like, I forgot the whole thing. And it's so funny. I mean, he did it differently every time. So every time was like new opportunities to crack up laughing, so.

00:38:35 Speaker_10
But I think that's part of the fun of it, to have to hold it together is also the fun of it and to come up with other things to do besides laugh. But I really enjoyed it. I mean, it was kind of like everything that I thought that I wanted it to be.

00:38:49 Speaker_10
It was. And I remember talking to my friend who was like my main friend that we loved The Office together. And I told him that I was on The Office and he didn't believe me.

00:38:58 Speaker_10
And he's like, you're kidding me, you know, because it was like a dream for that to be the first thing to do. And also because it's so many years later now and a lot of people had no idea that I was ever even on there. And, you know,

00:39:09 Speaker_10
The Office has had such a continually growing fan base. It seems like it had a whole new life all over again, which is great. It's like a legacy.

00:39:17 Speaker_10
And so people have discovered me on the end, on the end episodes, and been like, oh my God, are you in The Office? It's really funny, because it's so unexpected, and it's such a nice surprise. So it just keeps surprising people all these years later.

00:39:33 Speaker_04
So Angela, since I knew that this was Santi's first on-camera acting job, I just kind of asked her in general, like, how was that, like, coming onto the set? And she told a story that I think you'll enjoy. Here it is.

00:39:48 Speaker_10
Yeah, so the day, the day of, I remember, They told us to wear our own clothes because we were supposed to be playing ourselves, so that part was simple.

00:39:56 Speaker_10
We just got out of hair and makeup and then went in, and it was just me, Clay Aiken, and Aaron Rodgers. And I knew who Clay Aiken was, but I did not know who Aaron Rodgers was, and I don't know anything about football.

00:40:08 Speaker_10
So I asked him, I said, oh, what do you do? And he's like, oh, I'm a football player. I said, what team do you play for? And he said, I believe he said the Green Bay Packers, if that's a team. I'm so bad. I still don't know about football.

00:40:19 Speaker_10
But and then I asked him, what city was that? And he told me. And for some reason, I thought he was joking. And I was like, no, for real. What city is it? And he's like, no, that really is it. So it's kind of a funny intro.

00:40:31 Speaker_10
We end up getting along really well and having a lot of fun throughout the day.

00:40:37 Speaker_10
But yeah, I remember that they were changing the lines a lot, which made me feel a little bit anxious because I'm not used to that and obviously didn't have any experience.

00:40:47 Speaker_10
With any of it at all, it was also new, but the improvisational aspect was so actually fun to be in and watch Ed Helms just master. He was so funny.

00:41:00 Speaker_10
It was hard not to laugh, but at the same time, it was fun to just be in it with him and just get to experience it. and not fall apart. But we did it, obviously, several times and every time he did it different and every time it was like hilarious.

00:41:21 Speaker_10
And so I always I don't know, I always just really have a fun time watching people who master their crafts and just being able to just be a witness of it. I remember the experience being more like me getting to watch him.

00:41:33 Speaker_10
I'm really, really enjoying that and just being part of it at all, you know.

00:41:41 Speaker_04
Lady, I just love this runner of people asking Aaron Rodgers, what is it that you do? Oh, football. That's so neat. Like, I don't know why. It's just very funny to me.

00:41:55 Speaker_05
Well, in my experience, he was really kind in the moment.

00:41:59 Speaker_04
Well, Dave Rogers said all three of these guys were so great to work with. He remembered that Clay Aiken was really funny and had a great sense of humor, and he said he was really great at doing improv.

00:42:13 Speaker_04
Dave said that Aaron Rodgers was really down-to-earth, super friendly. He came in really prepared. He knew all his lines and gave great reactions. He really came off very relaxed and natural.

00:42:25 Speaker_04
And he said that our editor, Claire Scanlon, was a huge fan of Santigold and was so bummed she couldn't be there. So Dave asked if Santi would mind writing her a note and autographing it and giving it to Claire, and Claire was over the moon.

00:42:45 Speaker_05
That is so sweet of Dave and so thoughtful.

00:42:47 Speaker_04
I know.

00:42:48 Speaker_05
But also so nice of Santigold to be like, sure, no problem.

00:42:51 Speaker_04
I know. Well, I want to give a big thank you to Santi for sending in all those audio clips. You know, she has a podcast as well, Ange. It's called Noble Champions, and here's how it is described.

00:43:03 Speaker_04
Noble Champions is a modern-day salon created and hosted by the multi-platform visionary artist Santigold.

00:43:10 Speaker_04
In each episode, she sits down with some of today's leading artists, authors, activists, and progressive thinkers who stand up, stick up, and speak up for important causes.

00:43:21 Speaker_04
The first season is out now, and she's going to have new episodes premiering this fall, so check it out.

00:43:25 Speaker_05
Great. We'll put that in our stories. I would love to give her a shout-out as well. I love NPR's Tiny Desk Concert series, and Santigold's is so great. So if you're a fan of that series and haven't seen hers, it's a great watch.

00:43:39 Speaker_05
And I'll put that in stories as well. Great. Well, why don't we go to break? Because when we come back, Phillip and Kevin are finally going to make amends. Well, I want to go to break because...

00:43:50 Speaker_04
Angela, you brought in like two coolers worth of food today. And I've been waiting patiently to get to eat it. Will you tell everybody what it is?

00:43:59 Speaker_05
Yeah. So Josh and I sold a cookbook. I've shared that with you guys. And this week is the cookbook photography. And what that means is we're making like 11 recipes a day and then professionally food styling and taking the photos.

00:44:13 Speaker_05
It's turning out so fantastic. But it also means every day Josh is bringing home like 11 recipes. My fridge was so full. So today I said, you guys, I'm bringing in food for everyone. I have lasagna rolls. I have an amazing chicken and rice soup.

00:44:30 Speaker_05
I also have brisket. with all the sides. I also have chocolate chip muffins. I have millionaire bars, no-bake chocolate and oatmeal drops, an almond cake. So we're going to have a feast at lunch.

00:44:44 Speaker_04
You told me about this last night and I've been distracted because I can't wait any longer.

00:44:49 Speaker_05
The coolers are sitting right next to me.

00:44:52 Speaker_04
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00:48:06 Speaker_04
All right, we are back. Our bellies are full. I just ate the most delicious brisket with potatoes and carrots. And then I had a pecan cookie for dessert. Yes, Josh, you fed us all today. Thank you so much.

00:48:20 Speaker_04
And all of these things that I just ate are going to be in the cookbook, Ange?

00:48:23 Speaker_05
Yes. I know.

00:48:25 Speaker_04
This is going to be a good cookbook.

00:48:27 Speaker_05
It's looking so beautiful, too. I'm really excited about it.

00:48:30 Speaker_04
Well, we're going to head over to accounting, and Oscar and Angela, they need to try to smooth things over with Kevin. So they're going to present him with a gift from Phillip.

00:48:42 Speaker_05
Yes, Phillip got Kevin a $25 iTunes gift card. There's only $7 left on it.

00:48:48 Speaker_04
Yeah.

00:48:49 Speaker_05
But it's from Philip, and Kevin is very moved by this. He has a talking head where he says he and Philip are going to be best friends. Yeah. He's kind of standoffish at first, but, you know, he likes you when he starts buying you things.

00:49:03 Speaker_04
I mean, this is the advice that they give you if you're going to have a second kid. They say, have the baby buy a gift for the first kid. I've never heard that. To butter them up? Oh, you didn't know that? I didn't. Oh, my gosh.

00:49:17 Speaker_04
I mean, I remember I was five years old when my little sister Emily was born, and she gave me, in the hospital, when I visited her, my parents were like, Emily got you this. And it was a little dog, and I named it Prancy.

00:49:31 Speaker_04
And it was my favorite stuffed animal, and I still have it on my shelf in my office today.

00:49:36 Speaker_05
And I guess when you're that little, you're not like, oh, the baby can't walk. or speak, but bought me a gift.

00:49:43 Speaker_04
Yeah. I mean, I immediately liked her. I was like, this kid is terrific.

00:49:49 Speaker_05
This kid is really good at giving gifts. Yeah. Well, that says a lot about Kevin, where he's at.

00:49:55 Speaker_04
I know, right? About a five-year-old.

00:49:57 Speaker_05
Yeah. Well, the whole group has decided what they want to do with Daryl. They have decided they all want to dance with him. And Daryl says, all right, you're going to need some good speakers. Let's go.

00:50:09 Speaker_05
I do have a bullsh** card to play here in Daryl's office. What is it? Daryl left. He got his things and he left. And he had no plans to come back to his office, right? Sure. Well, guess what was sitting in the corner? What? His fakie bass fish thing.

00:50:27 Speaker_05
Oh, that he brought up from the warehouse to this? Yes, he left it behind, along with a box of some other things, but sitting right there is the fakie bass thing. You know what?

00:50:38 Speaker_04
I'm gonna say he did that on purpose. He's not taking it with him. Maybe he doesn't need that in his snazzy new athlete office. I guess not. Maybe he's going for a new decor now that he's like a big deal agent guy. So he just left it.

00:50:53 Speaker_04
He's like, anyone want it? It's here. Yeah, maybe. Dwight has called Angela into his office. He tells her to close the door and have a seat. He believes Philip may be a shrewd.

00:51:05 Speaker_04
And as such, Philip is entitled to a farm and inheritance and the right kind of upbringing, you know, under rigorous shrewd traditions.

00:51:14 Speaker_05
He also says that Angela will be compensated with a marriage proposal as well. It's kind of an afterthought to his speech. And there was a lot to play in this scene. Yeah. At first, Dave wanted me to be excited about the idea. of Dwight raising Philip.

00:51:33 Speaker_05
But then when he says, and of course, a marriage proposal will be also offered to you, I'm supposed to then turn and be like, no, that's not how I want this. And so once again, Angela says, Philip is not your son, and she leaves. Yeah.

00:51:48 Speaker_04
Meanwhile, in the break room, Jim has brought Pam in, and there's a laptop sitting on one of the tables and a DVD. And it's clear he's going to play this DVD for her, but Dwight interrupts him.

00:52:03 Speaker_05
He throws the now beanbag at Jim's head and hits him right in the head. Yeah. Serious. Serious. So is Dwight just walking around with beanbags in his pockets? Yes. Yes.

00:52:16 Speaker_04
I believe he is. So Dwight says, I'll be right back. And Pam waits for a second. And then she is like, no, I got to see what this is. I'm going to put this DVD in the computer. She doesn't wait that long. She doesn't.

00:52:29 Speaker_04
And now we're going to cut back and forth between this scene with Jim and Dwight and what Pam is doing in the break room.

00:52:37 Speaker_05
I loved the scene, how it cut back and forth. I thought it was so beautiful. I loved seeing the footage of early Pam and Jim. It was really emotional to watch.

00:52:47 Speaker_05
It was emotional to watch as someone who worked on the show and was in these scenes to see the progression of the characters, but then as a fan and then as someone who's been re-watching them with her best friend, it was a very layered emotion for me.

00:53:00 Speaker_05
Yeah.

00:53:02 Speaker_04
Well, we got a few fan questions about this montage that Pam is watching.

00:53:07 Speaker_04
One from Randy C. in Columbia, Maryland, who said, Jenna, when filming the sequence where Pam watches the DVD, was there anything really on the screen, or was it put in during post-production?

00:53:18 Speaker_05
Oh, we also had a fan question from Angela K. in Los Angeles. What did she say? Jenna, were you actually watching the footage in the video? And may I also add that your performance in the scene is beautiful and made me tear up.

00:53:32 Speaker_04
Love it. Well, I'll have you both know, Randy and Angela Kay, I was watching it. And I was watching it for the first time. Oh, wow. When they started rolling. Oh. I knew what was coming. I knew I was going to see this montage of us as Jim and Pam.

00:53:50 Speaker_05
But there's no way to prepare yourself for it.

00:53:52 Speaker_04
There's not.

00:53:53 Speaker_05
Because there were so many wonderful moments.

00:53:56 Speaker_04
Sarah R. from Cleveland, Ohio wanted to know who created the video. It was Claire Scanlon. She collected the images. Dave Rogers gave her a few suggestions. There were a few suggestions in the script.

00:54:11 Speaker_04
She picked out the song Open Your Eyes from Snow Patrol. Dave said that he believes John Krasinski came in and worked on it a little bit with Claire. He knew what was on it, but I did not. But this was the last scene that we shot for this episode.

00:54:28 Speaker_04
So this was a Friday. It was evening. It was just us on the set. It was very quiet.

00:54:35 Speaker_04
Really kind of reminded me of when we did Casino Night, when everybody else had gone home and we had like a smaller group for this really emotional moment between these two characters.

00:54:44 Speaker_05
Well I'd also love to give a big shout out to Dave Rogers for how he directed this because I thought it was really beautiful that you watched all of this just heartfelt emotion from Pam and then Jim is talking to Dwight

00:55:00 Speaker_05
about Pam at the same time and Dwight is thinking about Angela. When Jim tells Dwight to forget about fear and doubt and do whatever he can to get the one woman who's going to make everything worth it, to just do it.

00:55:14 Speaker_05
And he says, you love Angela, you probably always have. And Rain is Dwight, his performance is brilliant too. He's tearing up and he tells Jim he's a good assistant. So there's so much emotion happening in these two moments.

00:55:29 Speaker_05
I thought it was really well done.

00:55:30 Speaker_04
Well, this whole thing ends with Jim walking back into the break room, seeing that Pam has watched the video, and handing her the original teapot note, the one he took back and put in his pocket all of those years ago.

00:55:49 Speaker_04
We got a fan question from Laney B. in Westerville, Ohio, who said, was it always the plan to revisit the teapot card Jim wrote for Pam? Or was it something that the writers remembered and wanted to incorporate into the episode?

00:56:04 Speaker_04
Lainey, it was not always planned. Like, not from when we did that first Christmas episode, did anybody say, one day we're gonna reveal what was on this note. It sort of took on a life of its own. People became so curious what was in the note.

00:56:21 Speaker_04
that Jim didn't give Pam. And I've told this story before, but when we were pitching to Greg about season nine, I said, Greg, we have to read the teapot note.

00:56:34 Speaker_05
I mean, it's the greatest callback of the whole series. It's brilliant. This is a fantastic idea. Did they lose their minds when you pitched it?

00:56:43 Speaker_04
Well, I felt like I kind of had to convince them a little bit because... What? Here's the thing. Greg said, I don't think we'll ever be able to write anything that would satisfy everybody's imagination of this note after all these years.

00:57:00 Speaker_04
Like, the beauty of the note is that as the audience member, you've written the perfect thing on the note.

00:57:08 Speaker_05
That's brilliant. I mean, he's so smart. Right? That is a very smart take. But it's enough for me to just see it. Well, that was the thing.

00:57:17 Speaker_04
We didn't have to read it to you. You just needed the satisfaction of Pam getting it.

00:57:23 Speaker_00
She finally gets it. Of Pam reading it.

00:57:25 Speaker_04
Yes. And then you still get to fill in the blank, but you get that closure. I've told this story before too, but John Krasinski wrote the note. It was a private note.

00:57:38 Speaker_05
That he wrote to you as Jenna. Correct. About being your scene partner all those years. Yes.

00:57:45 Speaker_04
So it was kind of like a goodbye, thank you note. I still have it. It's private. I'll never reveal what was in it, but it was a beautiful, beautiful note from one scene partner to another.

00:57:59 Speaker_04
It made me cry, so when you see me crying in the episode, those are my real tears.

00:58:04 Speaker_05
I did notice when you were reading it, it seemed like some genuine surprise that you didn't know what was going to be given to you.

00:58:13 Speaker_04
Yes, they told me they were going to let John write the note, but I thought he was going to write it as Jim to Pam. So as I'm reading it and I'm realizing that it says, Dear Jenna, and then it's just,

00:58:29 Speaker_04
this beautiful letter about what it has meant for us to work together and be these scene partners. And, you know, it's like to be Jim and Pam, you know? Yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, my gosh. Oh, oh, my goodness. Yeah, you see it.

00:58:42 Speaker_04
Your face goes through a bunch of realizations. Yeah. And I think you can see John watching me read it. Yes. I think you see him be like, OK, I'm standing here as she reads this letter.

00:58:57 Speaker_05
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I agree with Greg. I'm glad you've never shared what you actually read, what was from John to you, because I don't want to break that fourth wall.

00:59:09 Speaker_05
I want to imagine this moment between Jim and Pam, and I want to imagine what I would have wanted Jim to say.

00:59:16 Speaker_04
Well, as a wrap gift at the finale, I wanted to return the favor. So I bought a little teapot, and I wrote a note to John from Jenna, my own little teapot note to him, thanking him for all those years working together and what it had meant to me.

00:59:35 Speaker_04
I mean, I'll never have a scene partner like that again. I feel like I have a work partner and a creative partner like that here with you, Angela. This is like another moment of like chemistry that you just You can't plan for it.

00:59:52 Speaker_04
It's just like, it's perfect. But to go on a nine-year journey with another actor in such an intimate and vulnerable way as our characters do, it's pretty special. I mean, we're bonded for life, for sure.

01:00:05 Speaker_05
For sure. It's nine years. Yeah, I feel the same way. And you know, we reached out to Dave about this episode, and he shared something about this scene, about how they would cut from Jim and Dwight back to Pam.

01:00:17 Speaker_05
And it's something he fought for, and that was to keep the music playing under the cutaways. And at first, I guess Greg wanted to take it out whenever they cut to Jim and Dwight.

01:00:28 Speaker_05
But Claire agreed with Dave, and they said it would be a great tool that the documentary filmmakers could use to underscore these two moments. And he really felt like it tied the two scenes together.

01:00:39 Speaker_05
And ultimately, Greg agreed, and they kept the music throughout both scenes. And I do think it tied them together beautifully.

01:00:46 Speaker_04
So there's one more thing about this scene that caused quite a stir after it aired. And it all has to do with a little mistake that they made. You know that very first slide of the little slideshow where Jim has written a note to Pam?

01:01:03 Speaker_05
Yes, he wrote, Beasley, you think I'll have regrets. I asked the dot crew to help me show you why I won't dot, dot, dot.

01:01:13 Speaker_04
Well, when this episode first aired, Pam's last name was misspelled. It was spelled B-E-E-S-L-E-Y, but that's not how you spell Beasley. you spell it B-E-E-S-L-Y.

01:01:30 Speaker_04
No E. No E. And fans were like, Jim misspelled his wife's name in the love tribute video. But then people started arguing over what is the correct spelling of Pam's last name. There's been several versions online. Well, here's what I can tell you.

01:01:53 Speaker_04
In the very first page of every script, there's a cast list. And from script number one to script finale, Pam's last name has always been spelled B-E-E-S-L-Y. That's how Greg intended it.

01:02:09 Speaker_04
However, it is misspelled a couple of times in early episodes and then in this episode. But in business school at her art fair, it's spelled correctly. In the credits for Threat Level Midnight, it's spelled correctly.

01:02:24 Speaker_04
On the big poster outside their wedding, where they misspell Jim's last name, Halpritt, her name is spelled correctly. So that is the correct spelling. You heard it here. You heard it here.

01:02:37 Speaker_04
And Angela, when you made us those matching blue hoodies, you spelled it correctly. I did. So I have a hoodie with Beasley on the back. I don't know how this happened exactly, but it has been corrected.

01:02:51 Speaker_04
So they corrected it for the DVDs, they corrected it for syndication, but on the first viewing it was spelled wrong. But you know, there were some people who tried to justify it by saying, hey, Jim didn't make the video, the doc crew made the video.

01:03:05 Speaker_04
The doc crew didn't know how to spell her last name. But also doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the doc crew to get everything right. I mean, literally what they're supposed to do is just document.

01:03:17 Speaker_05
Well, let's move to the bullpen because Erin is queuing up the music. There are disco lights. It is time to dance. And I thought you might like a breakdown of this dance sequence. Please.

01:03:28 Speaker_05
When the music starts, the kitchen door opens and Daryl is standing with his back to the bullpen and a leather jacket with his collar up. He spins around. His first dance move is with Stanley. They do a series of handshakes and then chest bump.

01:03:41 Speaker_05
Then Daryl and Nellie have a very sexy dance.

01:03:45 Speaker_04
I was like, that's a couple I hadn't thought of before, but okay.

01:03:51 Speaker_05
Then Daryl and Toby do a dance for... What are they doing? Are they pretending to ride a pony? Are they pretending to rope a cow? Well, it's like the... Yeah, are they lassoing one another? One another? I don't know.

01:04:04 Speaker_05
Then Daryl and Phyllis do a really fancy choreographed kickball change spin then a dip move. Phyllis was having fun in real life in that moment. For sure. All of her dancing days coming back. Then Daryl does air guitar with Creed and then with Meredith

01:04:21 Speaker_05
Daryl doesn't really dance, but Meredith waves her hand over his crotch and then spanks his butt. And then at 17 minutes and 23 seconds is my favorite. It is Daryl, Kevin, and Oscar. They're doing a very Madonna, Vogue kind of dance moment. It is epic.

01:04:39 Speaker_05
Then Pam and Jim and Daryl and Aaron form a line and dance kind of like a, I don't know what that was, a Congo line kind of thing? Kind of. And then it ends with Daryl and Aaron spinning in a circle holding hands in front of reception.

01:04:52 Speaker_04
We got a lot of fan questions about this. People wanted to know if music was really playing or if we had to do that thing where you're dancing to silence. Oh, yeah. Music was really playing.

01:05:03 Speaker_04
It was playing low, but we had it so that we could dance to the beat. But there were two rehearsals for this. Our resident choreographer, Marianne Kellogg, came in, and she worked with each person on what their dance with Daryl might be.

01:05:21 Speaker_04
So that was all planned. It wasn't like we just did impromptu moves or anything. Dave said it was actually a fairly complicated scene. It had to be carefully choreographed with camera and with Daryl's movement through the office.

01:05:35 Speaker_04
He wanted to make sure that everyone was in focus and had their moment. We had a fan catch that I know about.

01:05:45 Speaker_04
From personal experience, it was Kelly Y. from Carver, Massachusetts, who said, I have been waiting nine seasons to tell you this background catch that I notice every time I watch this episode.

01:05:57 Speaker_04
At 17 minutes and 45 seconds, when Jim and Pam are dancing in the background, you can very clearly see John mess up his dance move and mouth the words, oh, shit. Kelly said this makes me crack up every time. Kelly.

01:06:15 Speaker_04
John and I were added to this dance scene at the very last minute. I don't know why, but we had not been at the other rehearsals. And so on the day, we got our dance moves, and we were so clumsy. And we kept messing up.

01:06:34 Speaker_04
And we were cracking ourselves up, because we were like, why can't we do this simple dance move? But this is just such a wonderfully joyous moment in this finale before the finale.

01:06:51 Speaker_05
And Daryl has a talking head where he says, you know, leaving quietly seemed dignified, but having Kevin grind up on his front while Aaron pretended to hump him from behind is a more accurate tribute to his years there.

01:07:03 Speaker_05
He said he's really going to miss these guys. Yeah.

01:07:10 Speaker_04
Well, now everyone's leaving for the day and they say, we'll see you at Poor Richard's. Because remember, everybody's going to gather at Poor Richard's because the documentary is airing tonight. Yeah. Oscar says, I'll drop Philip off at my mother's.

01:07:23 Speaker_04
I love that Oscar's mother is Philip's babysitter. I know. How cute. And he says, Angela, you can't come with me because I don't want my mother to know I'm living with a straight woman and get her hopes up.

01:07:35 Speaker_04
So Angela is going to drive to Poor Richard's by herself. But oh boy, Dwight comes out of nowhere. He's got a siren on top of his car and a bullhorn, and he's shouting at her to pull over.

01:07:49 Speaker_05
Well, I have a lot to say about this scene. We wanted it to feel as real as possible.

01:07:56 Speaker_04
OK, well, we have a fan question from Rachel S. in Shetland, Scotland, who wanted to know, how did you do this driving scene and pulling over? I think that's you in the car, Angela. Am I right? It looks like you.

01:08:11 Speaker_05
You are correct. So we did a combination, and I have a lot of pictures from this particular scene. I brought my camera to set that day, and also Steve Burgess took a bunch of pictures. We did a combination of my car being pulled,

01:08:27 Speaker_05
where I'm not driving, that's in the straightaways. And then where we pull off the road is really me. That's what I thought. Yes, that's really me. When he cuts you off and kind of forces your car off the road.

01:08:39 Speaker_05
Right, because it had to be us because I get out of the car so quickly. And they had cameras everywhere. They had cameras mounted to the car. They had lipstick cameras inside so they could catch a bunch of different angles.

01:08:50 Speaker_05
And then we also did have stunt drivers for when the cars were going really fast on the straightaway. Okay. Okay.

01:08:55 Speaker_04
Well, when you get out of that car, Angela, talk about coming in hot. You are pissed. I'm pissed.

01:09:03 Speaker_05
I just got run off the road. I mean, you'd be pissed off. Yeah. So here's the thing. When we did the first take of this, it just felt a little stiff, right?

01:09:15 Speaker_05
And Dave and Brent were like, you guys, why don't you at the beginning improvise to get into the main beat of the scene to the proposal? So we were like, okay.

01:09:25 Speaker_05
So I thought I would play you the scene and then I'll tell you the parts that were improvised. Okay, great.

01:09:33 Speaker_07
Pull over. Why? Move to the side of the road. Why? Pull over.

01:09:46 Speaker_17
Dwight, what the f*** is your problem? Who drives like that? I love you, and I don't care that Phillip's not my son. I will raise a hundred children with a hundred of your lovers if it means I can be with you.

01:10:00 Speaker_05
Can you put that down?

01:10:04 Speaker_17
This expresses how loudly I love you. It's too loud.

01:10:14 Speaker_18
This is a ring. taken from the buttocks of my grandmother, put there by the gangster patriarch of the Coors dynasty, melted in a foundry run by Mennonites.

01:10:25 Speaker_05
Okay, yes! Yes, I will! I love you! I love you! And I lied to you. What? Phillip's your son.

01:10:41 Speaker_17
What?

01:10:42 Speaker_05
Why would you say that? I just needed you to want to marry me because you wanted to marry me.

01:10:47 Speaker_17
Get out! I'm a dad! You're a dad!

01:10:57 Speaker_05
Oh, it's so good. It's so fun to re-watch that, I have to tell you guys. We really Man, we put our hearts out there for that scene. So the parts that are improvised are Dwight, what the f*** is your problem? Yes. And then him saying, shut up, woman. Okay.

01:11:15 Speaker_05
And then me saying, who drives like that? And him saying, listen to me. Then we start the scripted part with, I love you and I don't care that Phillip's not my son. I improvise, can you put that down and it's too loud?

01:11:29 Speaker_05
And then Rain rift off a scripted line about that's how he expresses his love. And then after Angela says she will marry him, we kissed and I said, I love you. And that wasn't scripted. And Dwight said, I love you.

01:11:46 Speaker_05
And then we went into the beat where I shared with him that I had lied to him. And the scene was supposed to end with Dwight just saying, get out. But then Rain improvised, I'm a dad. And I said, you're a dad. And then we kissed again.

01:12:03 Speaker_04
So Angela, we did get a fan mail flurry here. People really want to know how Do you or the writers justify the fact that this DNA test said that Dwight was not the father? People want to know, did Angela pay them off? Did Dwight take the wrong diaper?

01:12:26 Speaker_04
There were a lot of babies at the family portrait studio. Tell us what you think.

01:12:34 Speaker_05
Well, I understand the fan mail flurry over this because it was set up that it might not be Dwight's child, right? Very clearly. This is how I always made it make sense for me.

01:12:49 Speaker_05
When Dwight takes the diaper, Angela doesn't know if he got Phillips or not. She goes with him. She's very invested. This could end her marriage. And although she loved Dwight, she thought it was over for them. They had missed their moment.

01:13:07 Speaker_05
And she had built this whole life with the state senator, for better or for worse. So she sat there with him and waited for the results. And they held hands because I think it was as big for her as it was for him.

01:13:20 Speaker_05
She didn't know if he was going to find out the truth that she knew all along. Okay. And she didn't say anything because she wasn't ready to tell him.

01:13:31 Speaker_05
And then when they said, it's not your child, she is relieved because now she can keep her life intact. And there's a lot of sadness for her as well.

01:13:44 Speaker_04
But what you're saying is that, and you've said this before, that she never really consummated her relationship with the senator. The only person she was sexually active with was Dwight. This was Dwight's baby.

01:13:58 Speaker_04
But somehow, something sort of serendipitously happened in the testings. But somehow, something went wrong in the testing facility, or maybe he grabbed the wrong diaper. And that's why the test result said that.

01:14:14 Speaker_05
I think he grabbed the wrong diaper. Okay. There were a lot of babies there that day. Okay. I think he grabbed the wrong diaper, but Angela couldn't be sure, and that's why she followed him there.

01:14:25 Speaker_05
And then I think there were many times she wanted to tell him, but she thought he had moved on. And then I think she didn't know how to tell him. I just wanted to add one final thing about this scene that I will never forget.

01:14:39 Speaker_05
After we did the take that we knew was the one, you know, we were both crying. Rain and I were both tearing up. Dave yelled cut, and I looked over to our first assistant camera operator, Chris Workman, and he was wiping tears away from his eyes.

01:14:54 Speaker_05
And it just made me so happy. You know, our crew was rooting for this couple. Rain and I were rooting for this couple. And I asked Brent Forrester, our writer, what it was like to write this proposal scene. And here's what he had to say.

01:15:06 Speaker_12
There were moments on the office where it seemed like something sacred had happened on set. Jim and Pam getting married at Niagara was a moment like that, where everyone who was there seemed like they had been transformed by seeing it live.

01:15:21 Speaker_12
And another moment like that was Dwight proposing to Angela in the second to last episode.

01:15:26 Speaker_12
We knew in the writer's room that we had created something clever with Angela's lie to Dwight, but we didn't know how it would play until the actors showed up on set.

01:15:37 Speaker_12
Well, Angela Kinsey and Rainn Wilson had been playing these characters for nine seasons, and there was so much real emotion pent up. When Dwight proposed to her, And she accepted, there was this feeling of joy on set.

01:15:52 Speaker_12
And then she reveals that he's also a father. Now Rainn Wilson is a father, and the joy of that moment seemed to hit him by surprise. And it rippled through him and Angela and the whole set.

01:16:10 Speaker_12
The director called cut and everyone just looked at each other with these gentle smiles on their faces like they had seen something sacred. The writers set it up, the actors bring it to life.

01:16:23 Speaker_12
And when the actors bring to life real sacred emotions of joy and love, I think that's the highest that our art form can achieve.

01:16:35 Speaker_04
Oh, that's beautiful. I know. Yeah. What a wonderful thing to say, Brent. Thank you. Well, I know there's something crazy about this day of shooting.

01:16:45 Speaker_04
This must have been very emotional for you, Angela, because this day of shooting started with this scene, this proposal scene. Then y'all broke for lunch, and we read the finale. We had a giant table read. With hundreds of people. Yeah.

01:17:02 Speaker_04
So you went from that to the final table read.

01:17:09 Speaker_05
To then all of us being together at Poor Richard's to watch the beginning of the documentary airing. Yes. I was a hot mess all day. I cried off and on all day. I remember being so tired that night, just emotionally so tired.

01:17:24 Speaker_05
I have pictures, Jenna, of you and I walking in together to that final table read, holding hands. We were so, oh man, just overwhelmed by the moment, and we walked in together holding hands.

01:17:40 Speaker_04
Next week, I'm going to play an audio clip of Greg's speech to us before we read that final episode. It's really beautiful.

01:17:53 Speaker_04
But I mention all that because when we go to this next scene where we're all gathered at Poor Richard's as a group and we're going to watch the documentary, all of us are coming off of that very emotional table read.

01:18:08 Speaker_04
And I'll just never forget sitting in that group scene together. It was kind of perfect.

01:18:13 Speaker_05
Yeah.

01:18:14 Speaker_04
It really created that moment in us. And I have a picture of you and me and John and Rain from the bar. Yeah. Sitting there. Yeah. It's one of my favorites. So here's what happens.

01:18:31 Speaker_04
Angela and Dwight arrive to Poor Richard's, but the bartender is refusing to put the documentary on because there is a college baseball game on.

01:18:41 Speaker_05
Can I give the bartender a shout out? Please do! The bartender is played by Scott Robinson. He is a longtime friend of Kate Flannery and I. He is an amazing improviser and performer. In fact, he and Kate had a hilarious lounge act they did for years.

01:18:57 Speaker_05
Oh, it's so good. So good. It's called The Lampshades. It was described as America's favorite dying lounge act. They even at one point had their own single called Out of Space. You got to hear it.

01:19:30 Speaker_09
She packed my bags last night, pre-flight. Flight. Zero hour, nine AM. I'm gonna be high as a kite by then. By then. By then.

01:19:54 Speaker_07
By then.

01:19:54 Speaker_09
By then. By then. By then.

01:20:00 Speaker_04
This show is so funny. I saw it two times, maybe three times. I can't get enough of it. Kate would wear this jumpsuit, this crazy wig, and she would do this like full squat. and that deep squat and then pop up and do a high kick.

01:20:23 Speaker_04
It was incredible, very athletic.

01:20:25 Speaker_05
In a red romper. Yep. And Scott was such the perfect scene partner in the lampshades.

01:20:31 Speaker_04
His character's hilarious. I mean, it's what you imagine, just like slick back hair, like pencil mustache and his little cigarette.

01:20:39 Speaker_05
Cigarette hanging out of the corner of his mouth the entire show.

01:20:42 Speaker_04
Yep. So this episode is going to end with Andy entering, which was so great to have Ed Helms back with us in this big group scene.

01:20:51 Speaker_04
And he's going to be the tie-breaking vote that's going to get the bartender to switch it from baseball to the documentary. And it begins. Yeah. And it begins with the first few lines of the pilot.

01:21:08 Speaker_04
We had a fan question from Amy A. in Pasadena, California, who asked, were we actually watching something? Or was that audio added in post? No, Amy, we were actually watching it. Dave put together a short video.

01:21:25 Speaker_04
So you saw the logo that came on before the documentary. He said, if you look closely at the names in the end credits from the previous show, he put his nephews Jaden and Owen on there. So sweet.

01:21:40 Speaker_04
But we were really watching that first scene of Jim in Michael's office. And it was really sentimental.

01:21:48 Speaker_05
Yeah.

01:21:50 Speaker_04
That is A-A-R-M. Part two, everyone. I can't believe it. I want to give a big thank you to Santigold, Steve Burgess, Brent Forrester, Dave Rogers, Jessica Sinclair. And now next week is the finale.

01:22:06 Speaker_14
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01:22:09 Speaker_04
Oh, before we go.

01:22:12 Speaker_14
Brian Selengo or Selenjo sent in a song he wrote about the podcast. I think it's very sweet.

01:22:18 Speaker_16
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01:24:37 Speaker_14
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01:25:48 Speaker_04
Wow, I don't even know what to say. That was so beautiful. It was so nice.

01:25:56 Speaker_05
It was so lovely. Well, and I love that Keanu made it in. That was so wonderful. Thank you, Sam, for sharing that with us. Sure.

01:26:07 Speaker_14
Thank you to Brian for reaching out.

01:26:09 Speaker_05
Yeah, that was really, really lovely, Brian. Thank you.

01:26:13 Speaker_04
I know that it would have meant so much to Phil to be in that. So thank you for giving us that too. And we're not going anywhere. And we're also going to keep trying to get Keanu on this podcast.

01:26:25 Speaker_05
So we can't finish this out until we speak to that man. OK. But we have lots and lots of more Office Fun stuff coming your way. And we're excited to start sharing about it with you all. Thank you so much. I'm so emotional. for this community.

01:26:42 Speaker_05
You've meant so much to Jen and I. Okay. We'll see you next week.

01:26:46 Speaker_03
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01:26:55 Speaker_05
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