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Episode: "3 Presidents"

Author: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
Duration: 00:57:07

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On our first triple-guest podisode, we let our pal President Biden bring along two friends, Former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Let’s get a little less-SmartLess together… on an all new SmartLess.This episode was recorded on March 28th, 2024. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to

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In this 'SmartLess' episode titled "3 Presidents," hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett engage with President Joe Biden and Former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton in an unprecedented triple-guest interview. The discussion seamlessly blends humor with profound political insights, exploring themes such as the politicians' achievements in healthcare, job creation, global leadership, and democracy. Despite the underlying challenges of navigating a fragmented media landscape and political polarization, the three presidents share heartfelt reflections on public service, emphasizing dignity, decency, and the importance of connecting with diverse audiences. Through candid anecdotes and thoughtful discourse, the episode underscores the ongoing commitment to democracy and leadership that transcends party lines, all while maintaining the signature joyful tone of the podcast.

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00:00:03 Speaker_06
Fellas, how you doing? How are you? Was getting in okay? Or was there cavity searches?

00:00:09 Speaker_05
There was a cavity search. It wasn't long enough, actually. And Sean's went back for seconds. And they said, we don't have anybody come back for a second. It's not Thanksgiving. You're clean. He said, can I come back tomorrow to get cold leftovers?

00:00:29 Speaker_06
Welcome to Smart List.

00:00:48 Speaker_05
Guys, take a breath and think about what this is about to be. It's fucking insane, you guys. It's insane. Do you guys have good questions? Sort of. I have areas.

00:01:00 Speaker_06
Way to not prep. I did prep.

00:01:02 Speaker_05
I had a lot of conversations with people.

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Um, I've got I've got 18 questions.

00:01:08 Speaker_05
Oh good. I'll just I'll just follow you I wanted I was not joking when I said I think it's good that we have questions, but I also want to entertain conversations and listening conversations And through conversation questions will come out.

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Is that right?

00:01:21 Speaker_07
I think so. Oh boy So, how are you guys feeling when you woke up today knowing that this is gonna happen?

00:01:26 Speaker_06
Are we rolling right now? Yeah. Yeah.

00:01:28 Speaker_07
Are we really?

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Yeah. Yeah. Oh

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Oh, this is a whole different... I gotta put on my radio voice. We can say where we are, because it's... After the fact, yeah, we're at the... So... So we're here... No, don't say it!

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No, I'm kidding.

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Well, we're here on Central Park South.

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We're here on Central Park South with a beautiful second-story view of the park, if second-story is beautiful views. A little rainy. Treetops is nice. A little rainy. And we very rarely have more than one guest. Sometimes we have two.

00:01:58 Speaker_05
When were the times we did it?

00:02:00 Speaker_07
When we have bands on, a lot of the time we have two.

00:02:03 Speaker_06
Like Billie Eilish and Finns. Radiohead. Radiohead. Duran Duran. Killers.

00:02:10 Speaker_07
Oh no, that was just Simon. Duran, Duran, Depeche Mode.

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The Killers, Depeche Mode.

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Depeche Mode, right, that was great.

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So today we're doing a first time, it's a little risky, there's three of them. But it's kind of a band full of rock stars. Just bear with us. Yeah, they're like the police. Yeah. So, you'll be familiar with one of them.

00:02:33 Speaker_06
The other two, he wanted to bring along, I guess, his buddies. He gets a little nervous. We've had him on the show before. He wanted to do it again. They're guys he worked with, I guess.

00:02:41 Speaker_06
Yeah, we don't really do repeat guests, but we made an exemption here, and we certainly don't let people bring buddies, but he was insistent.

00:02:49 Speaker_05
And... Can I just say... I'm excited, too. Can I just say, we're sitting here in this hotel room, as we've already said. It's 2024. Four years ago, less than four years ago, we started doing this podcast. It was a COVID baby, as we call it.

00:03:05 Speaker_05
Came out of the gate with Dax Shepard. Came out of the gate with Dax Shepard, which was great, but I set the bar high with Dax. And then, now here we are in New York. Four years later, scraping the bottom of the barrel.

00:03:15 Speaker_05
And we're looking at... With a dude and his buddies. We got Rob Arm-Yarv. Arm-Yarv. And we got Bennett Barber-Cow. And we got MGT, Michael the G Terry. Yeah. And we're all here in New York, and it's fucking wild, guys.

00:03:31 Speaker_05
Yeah, we're all... And I want to say to you guys... Yeah, it's pretty cool. This is cool. This is one of those life moments, right? You gotta stop and, like, recognize it. Michael, I just want to say, Michael, how is it for you? Delightful. Delightful.

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That's it.

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Delightful. And I'm proud of us. We haven't screwed it up yet.

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Bennett, what do you think? It feels... It's amazing. It's weird, right? Wow, these adjectives are incredible.

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We've been saying to take a breath.

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Rob, yell something from over there. How are you feeling? Fantastic! Ah, that's Rob.

00:03:57 Speaker_06
We did limit them each to one word we did say. And Rob doesn't even have a microphone, so thank you for your contributions.

00:04:04 Speaker_05
We have been reminding ourselves to be present, though, and take a breath. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool.

00:04:09 Speaker_07
Now, Will came up to get a ride with my guy that I sometimes hire for, like, when I do a Broadway show.

00:04:19 Speaker_05
Mikey, who drove him when he was doing... Do you know Sean did a play on Broadway last year? No. What was it called? And it was called Go Get Me, Oscar. I think.

00:04:30 Speaker_06
Right. And it was, wasn't it at the Topachico? Yeah, the Topachico Theater.

00:04:40 Speaker_07
And so he came, so Will, I said, do you want a ride? Because I think Jason's close, really close to the hotel. So Will came straight up. The first thing, I put my pants on and I walked out to the living room with my shirt and my pants on.

00:04:52 Speaker_07
I reached in my pocket and I found money. I found like 30 bucks.

00:04:55 Speaker_05
Great story. No, but here's the best part. Sean pulls out and he goes, he turns to Scottie and he goes, look at this. And we go, what? And he goes, he's got like $31. He goes, look at all this money. And we go, yeah. And I go, so the pants are clean.

00:05:08 Speaker_05
Obviously, today's a big event for you. Yeah, exactly. He hasn't been here for six months.

00:05:13 Speaker_07
I haven't been here for six months, so I just put these pants on. And I was like, oh, I guess I wore them out.

00:05:18 Speaker_06
And there was just the one pair of socks that you stole from a youngster you were babysitting?

00:05:24 Speaker_07
I know, you don't know where the skin ends and the sock starts.

00:05:26 Speaker_06
You know, it's a fairly high-class guest today. You didn't think you'd go with a full-length sock?

00:05:31 Speaker_07
And Will doesn't have socks at all on. I know, but that's the way to go. I know, I should have gone full-length.

00:05:35 Speaker_05
Shani, how do you decide what clothes stay here in your apartment in New York? Like, what's the math that you do on that?

00:05:41 Speaker_07
Um, I don't, I, I just, you know, there's like a couple of t-shirts and clearly a couple of pants and, uh. I mean, pants is a stretch. They're jeans. No, they're not. They're pants. Sorry, they're stretch jeans.

00:05:52 Speaker_05
No, no, no. They're, they look like jeans. They're dress pants.

00:05:55 Speaker_06
They're brushed cotton jeggings.

00:05:56 Speaker_05
Yes, thank you. But they're in a five pant cut. Jason's in corduroys and a, and a. Yeah, but Jason, I mean, Jason looks like he's doing a whole different.

00:06:06 Speaker_06
But I'm also living here, and I don't have, you know, President of the United States clothes with me, you know?

00:06:12 Speaker_05
You look good. I said before, you look very rugged and sexy. Thank you very much. I'm playing a guy that's made a lot of bad decisions. You know what I like about it?

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Your hair is long enough that when you're wearing the headphones right now, it's keeping the hair back, and you've got kind of like a soccer, like a European soccer player vibe. He's slowly winking at you. The slow winks, we could do without.

00:06:29 Speaker_06
And they're half winks, too. God. They're more lid squeezes. That's so gross. So you guys have... Do you have important questions loaded? Do you have fun questions loaded? I have a little bit of both. A bit of both. You've got some policy questions perhaps?

00:06:49 Speaker_05
Mine obviously have more to do with relations with Canada. Right? Sure. Are we gonna... Is that one of the borders we're closing? I hope not. You know, because how are we going to get all our stuff across, eh? I'm still moving cigarettes.

00:07:05 Speaker_05
Fuck, I don't care. I'm muelling some of that sticky BC bud through the interior. I'm coming down through Fernie BC, eh? My brother found a good path last year.

00:07:19 Speaker_07
Let's see what they have to say about that.

00:07:20 Speaker_06
Sure, I want to hear what they have to say. Yeah, I wonder, I'm sure they don't want to get into the micro of policy and stuff like that.

00:07:27 Speaker_06
I'm sure they'd like us to find a middle ground between drive-time radio and some hard-hitting meet-the-press conversation.

00:07:35 Speaker_07
Yeah, but I mean, I can't, I don't know how to formulate those questions.

00:07:40 Speaker_05
Well, you know what's interesting is that the three of them obviously are very connected and they're all sort of from the same sort of class. of Democrats in that, right, that they were around. Obama was a rising star.

00:07:55 Speaker_05
You know, President Biden's been around since the 70s. He was a senator, et cetera. Obama came up as this young star in the early 2000s. Nobody will forget his fiery speech at the Democratic Convention in 2004, how amazing that was.

00:08:08 Speaker_05
So they're all part of the same... Clinton was a governor, and yeah. Clinton was a governor, and then he was a superstar back to back. Arkansas, right? Yes, Arkansas.

00:08:15 Speaker_04
Thank you. Good, Sean.

00:08:17 Speaker_05
but back-to-back president of the United States. So they all, I think, have very... My point is they're similarly minded when it comes to sort of policy. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

00:08:26 Speaker_07
Et cetera. And... Well, it's cool that they all are, like, together. I don't know that I've ever seen that or, like, witnessed that.

00:08:34 Speaker_05
Yeah. I mean, I don't even see George W. and his dad together.

00:08:39 Speaker_06
Didn't the three of them get together for the last election a bit? Didn't they sort of... You're thinking of the three tenors, I think.

00:08:47 Speaker_05
These are not... By the way, we have to do this. If we don't do the three tenors right after this, I quit.

00:08:55 Speaker_06
We should just start... Let's start the interview mistaking them for the three tenors. So, when do you guys... Have you been in rehearsals long? Because the Radio City show tonight should be getting the acoustics... We're so excited for the set.

00:09:07 Speaker_06
What's your warm-up like? Will there be solos or you guys just sing all the songs together?

00:09:12 Speaker_05
You guys are slimmer than I remember opera singers.

00:09:15 Speaker_06
And your accents are fantastic.

00:09:17 Speaker_05
Exactly. Well, guys, I'm honored to be here, not just with them. I'm honored to be here with you guys. This is a momentous occasion, not just in the podcast, but in life. Tell me your name. And I'm sorry, it's Will. It's still Will.

00:09:29 Speaker_05
And I'm really psyched that I get to be here with you guys during this. Likewise.

00:09:34 Speaker_06
It's not lost on me, not to pat ourselves on the back, but just to say briefly,

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very proud of us that we haven't screwed this up yet, and that Mr. Biden called us again, and wanted to do this again, wanted to bring his friend, like, just so, so flattered and humbled, and, yeah, that's, it's crazy. Ditto to all of it. Here we go.

00:09:55 Speaker_06
It's a, it's an all, an all-new, super presidential, smartless,

00:10:05 Speaker_00
I'm over there, right? We're just going to come in and adjust the microphones, too. Go for it. Yeah, thank you. So headphones on, yeah? Yeah, headphones on.

00:10:12 Speaker_01
You can grab those headphones right there, please.

00:10:13 Speaker_00
OK.

00:10:14 Speaker_01
And I'm going to swing this in a little bit. Thank you, sir. You're welcome.

00:10:20 Speaker_06
Mr. Clinton, have you done any time, Mr. Clinton, in Lake of the Ozarks? Oh, yeah. Right? Because that's in your neck of the old woods there.

00:10:30 Speaker_03
Yeah. Do you want it up or down? I've spent a lot of time.

00:10:33 Speaker_05
I've been to every- Number two, please.

00:10:36 Speaker_03
voting precincts in the northern Arkansas Ozarks. And I had one of the presidents of Walmart came from a little town in the Ozarks, near the lake of the Ozarks. And I went up there, had a day for him. I went up there once.

00:10:54 Speaker_01
I can hear fine. Okay, great.

00:10:55 Speaker_03
So I've moseyed around up there.

00:10:58 Speaker_06
But was that ever a vacation spot for you?

00:11:02 Speaker_03
No, I didn't take any vacations up there.

00:11:05 Speaker_06
I was working up there, but I was up there all the time. That's a big spot for folks in that part of the country.

00:11:11 Speaker_03
Oh, yeah, it's breathtakingly beautiful.

00:11:13 Speaker_06
Yeah, that lake gets a lot of work.

00:11:15 Speaker_05
Judging by your show, Jason, it seems like a pretty dangerous part of the world, too.

00:11:19 Speaker_06
Well, we didn't really spend a lot of time in there. Yeah, we didn't spend a lot of time with the nice part.

00:11:24 Speaker_07
Not much of a show in that. My family vacationed there once when I was a kid, and everybody got drunk. What a surprise.

00:11:30 Speaker_03
I still remember when it was all illegal. We had a sheriff from up there that had a jail where the cells were all below level. Below the water level? No, below ground level. So he was, they were all pot farms when it was all still illegal.

00:11:49 Speaker_03
He made a hell of a lot of money doing it.

00:11:51 Speaker_06
That's crazy. Is it legal in Missouri and Arkansas yet?

00:11:55 Speaker_05
Are you planning a trip?

00:11:55 Speaker_06
Sort of.

00:11:58 Speaker_01
You basically scout out every state. We're looking for a sequel. Can I go here? Is this OK? Well, it's a sequel. You know, we've done the opening.

00:12:08 Speaker_03
Honey, we're going to Missouri. It was more fun when it was illegal. Uh-huh. Yeah, exactly. Well, I love doing it. You should have had me writing some of your scripts for you.

00:12:21 Speaker_07
I want to start by, you know, first of all, this is huge for us. And what a massive honor it is to be sitting with the three of you looking at us. It's so bizarre.

00:12:31 Speaker_01
It's crazy. We're all wondering how we ended up here. No doubt about it. We've got questions for your staff.

00:12:37 Speaker_05
And your questions are only going to grow as to why you did it as we get into it. We were saying earlier, four years ago, we started this podcast during COVID as a way to kind of connect with each other.

00:12:47 Speaker_05
And we ended up connecting with a lot of people out there. And for us, it's a real thrill to be here. Did you ever get Trump? Couldn't make his deal. No, we're letting other people get him. Yeah. Well done, Will. Thank you. Very bravo, bravo.

00:13:01 Speaker_05
But it is momentous for us, and especially during this time that we're in right now, to have your time. So we thank you for your time. Yeah, yeah, this is huge.

00:13:10 Speaker_07
How do you all know each other? I'm kidding.

00:13:12 Speaker_06
That was my only... But it is... I've worked for both of them a long time. Yeah, I know.

00:13:17 Speaker_07
I know.

00:13:18 Speaker_06
It's not the first time that you three have combined forces to really kind of do what we all need you guys to do, which is keep you in office.

00:13:31 Speaker_06
But does it strike you as like, how is it even necessary to have half a president campaigning against the other guy? It is shocking to me that it takes the amount of effort to be competitive against someone who just

00:13:51 Speaker_06
in my opinion, as just running for the wrong thing?

00:13:56 Speaker_02
Well, a lot's changed. A lot's changed in how you communicate. A lot's changed in information. And so much disinformation out there.

00:14:03 Speaker_02
And, uh, you know, it's, uh, it's really, uh, and it's hard to communicate even today when you do accomplish some improbable things. Yeah. And, uh, but he, uh,

00:14:17 Speaker_05
Well, and I'll say that Mr. President, not to cut you off, but you have accomplished a lot of incredible things. And all three of you did in your presidencies, did amazing things.

00:14:25 Speaker_05
President Clinton, you left this country with a surplus, which is the first time it had been done in a number of years. President Obama, you passed the Affordable Care Act, really started to tackle social issues.

00:14:38 Speaker_05
President Biden, you know, you look at your jobs numbers, you look at the way you're battling inflation, which has not been easy.

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And you've done it with a lot of headwind, and you've had a lot of people, a lot of voices, and we live in a time where there are a lot of voices.

00:14:52 Speaker_05
And my question is, considering the amazing work that all three of you have done, and especially what you're doing right now, President Biden, It's so difficult, the messaging is so tough to get the message out there because there is so much noise.

00:15:07 Speaker_05
What can you do?

00:15:10 Speaker_02
Just keep talking about it. You just have to connect with people as to how they're being affected, why it's happening. And you know, one of the things that really startles me is I'm optimistic. I'm genuinely optimistic. And starting to break through.

00:15:25 Speaker_02
There's so much we have an opportunity to get done in ways that these guys set up and we're now going to be able to close down. But for example, you know, when we got elected, we were told we couldn't get anything done.

00:15:37 Speaker_02
We couldn't get anything passed. Well, we got a little thing called a billion, $300 million to rebuild our roads, highways, internet. We got the chips.

00:15:49 Speaker_02
I've traveled around the world and said, why don't you come and invest in the United States of America? We got $650 billion invested offline. And on the CHIPS Act, we got about $56, $70 billion. And they're employing people.

00:16:04 Speaker_02
It takes a while to kick in, though.

00:16:06 Speaker_06
But it seems like they're only watching certain things, reading certain things. Everybody's so siloed in the way in which they receive information.

00:16:19 Speaker_06
Could it be as simple as you, and you've got very smart people to suggest what it is that you do, but could it be as simple as just granting an hour to Sean Hannity and sit down and go, you tell me why

00:16:34 Speaker_06
The people who follow you think I'm not a good president. And just answer his questions. Call his bluff. I mean, because the information, the facts are all there.

00:16:45 Speaker_06
It's particularly for that group of people, what you do is so much better suited than what the other agenda is talking about. So is it just a matter of just getting on that network? I don't get it.

00:16:58 Speaker_01
First of all, you guys are exactly right. Joe's got an unbelievable record of accomplishment. Stunning. If you had told me that the unemployment rate after COVID was going to be back down to 4% or lower. Yeah. lowest in 50 years, isn't it? Absolutely.

00:17:16 Speaker_01
And if you had told me that 15 million jobs would have been created, that wages are higher now than they were pre-pandemic.

00:17:24 Speaker_07
Yeah. And the most jobs created in history, correct? In this four-year period, yes.

00:17:28 Speaker_01
That's unbelievable. In this four-year period. You've got African-American unemployment, right, which is always higher than the general population, the lowest it's been since record-keeping on the issue was taken. So Joe's got a strong message to tell.

00:17:46 Speaker_01
Jason, you're right. The media environment's changed.

00:17:51 Speaker_01
During Bill's presidency, during my presidency, you already had Fox and Rush Limbaugh and so forth, but it was still going through basic broadcast TV, and the average person was still kind of getting a mix. Some dissenting views.

00:18:07 Speaker_01
Part of what happened is that whole ecosystem moved on to social media. And once it's on social media and it's on an algorithm and everybody's just getting their news selected essentially to suit their biases, penetrating that is real tough.

00:18:27 Speaker_01
It is very hard.

00:18:28 Speaker_07
But what do you say to the people who say on the other side the same thing?

00:18:33 Speaker_01
You know, I would argue that actually they've got some legitimate points in the sense that there's a side that doesn't recognize conservative thought or isn't respectful to some traditional values that they care about and so forth.

00:18:52 Speaker_01
The difference though is, and Jason touched on it, there's a difference between facts and opinions. And the one thing that, our side still pretty much sticks to is the facts.

00:19:07 Speaker_01
You may not agree with whatever's in the New York Times or whatever's on MSNBC, but generally they're not going to just make stuff up. And, you know, look, I was in office in 2016.

00:19:24 Speaker_01
And I would have loved to pretend that the election outcome wasn't what it was. That was painful. Right? But we said, well, here are the facts. And there's a system of government that transcends, that is more important than whoever

00:19:44 Speaker_01
wins this particular election. We're going to abide by those facts and stick with democracy. And that is a shift that's taking place. Now, last point I'd make, though, because you asked, you know, Jason was asking, what do we do?

00:19:58 Speaker_01
I think Joe's point is right, and that is you just keep on showing up and delivering the message wherever you can, however you can.

00:20:07 Speaker_01
And if you talk to folks enough, all of us, Bill, Joe, myself, all have the experience of going to places where we may not be the most popular person. People may have some preconceived notions about Barack Hussein Obama, right?

00:20:25 Speaker_01
But if you show up and you make a human connection with people and you talk to them, we'll be right back.

00:20:35 Speaker_05
It makes your job harder, does it not?

00:20:37 Speaker_05
Or I'm asking you, when you wake up in the morning and you have people who say that they're opposed to what you do or what you believe or whatever, and yet you still have to govern and serve them, no matter what, and it seems, right?

00:20:50 Speaker_05
And the other guy, He has no problem throwing anybody who's not with him under the bus.

00:20:57 Speaker_02
Look, when I got elected, when I got elected, I said I'm going to be president for everyone. We have put more money into red states than blue states. Yes. Not a joke.

00:21:08 Speaker_05
Yeah.

00:21:08 Speaker_02
Across the board. Across the board, there's more money total invested in the red states than the blue states because I'm going to be president for everyone.

00:21:16 Speaker_06
Do they know that?

00:21:17 Speaker_02
Well, I think it's beginning, but whether they did or not, I have an obligation, it seems to me. Yeah. To take care of the country. That's the job. But it's beginning to sink in a little bit.

00:21:27 Speaker_02
And you know, you have, like, for example, did you ever think you'd see, these guys are great speakers, they're great presidents. Did you ever think you'd see a State of the Union like the two I've had? No. No.

00:21:40 Speaker_05
Yeah. Frankly, a little shameful. As the newest American here. Yeah. Because I'm Canadian.

00:21:47 Speaker_01
Yeah, I remember that. You know, Canadian... Well, look, I've got a Canadian brother-in-law. Canadians are interesting because they sneak up on you. You remember that movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers? Yeah. Like they look like us.

00:22:04 Speaker_01
But you don't really know. Wait, I saw you at the Raptors game back in the day. Actually, I love me some Canadians.

00:22:11 Speaker_07
I'm always looking behind me when Will and I are walking, just like a certain other Canadian.

00:22:15 Speaker_06
Is there, is there, there is, and I don't mean to sound cynical with this, but there is a bit of a show element that the other guy seems to really relish in.

00:22:26 Speaker_06
He loves being and saying things that really attract, you know, some views, some clicks, like, you know, He's a fun show to watch, I'm sure. Like the nicknames.

00:22:36 Speaker_06
Now, I know you three are uniquely qualified in keeping things classy and elevated and keeping, you know, respect around the office and the job, et cetera. But is there...

00:22:50 Speaker_06
ever a thought of how one might be able to tack slightly towards the show to sort of combat that a little bit. And you're starting to do it just a little bit, President Biden.

00:23:02 Speaker_06
And I think it's, it's really like people are loving, you're sort of giving it to them a little bit. Now, I know that's not, you know, some sort of contrived calculation you're making, but It's a response. Yeah, exactly.

00:23:16 Speaker_06
But is there any thought to, like, it's time to kind of pull the gloves off a little bit, and if they want to show, we'll give it to them.

00:23:22 Speaker_02
Well, I'm not so sure about the show, but I think if they want the truth, we'll give it to them. Yeah, amen. And just go straight at them.

00:23:29 Speaker_02
Look, you know, like I said at the gridiron dinner, you know, this guy came up to me, asked me if we could borrow some money. Yeah, that's a great line. And I, you know, I told him, Donald, I can't help you.

00:23:40 Speaker_02
But all kidding aside, we can make jokes about it. But the end result is, look, we've all know every major world leader. And I think one of the reasons Barack asked me to be vice president, I had some foreign policy experience.

00:23:56 Speaker_02
And I've known these folks for a long time. I go to all these conferences that we all know, and Bill just came back from one on his own. Great help to us in the Caribbean. And, you know, almost every single time, not a joke, guys,

00:24:11 Speaker_02
Whether it's the G7, the G20, all these heads of state, they'll wait till they can get me alone and grab my arm and say, you've got to win. Because, quote, my democracy is at stake. Their democracy.

00:24:23 Speaker_03
Let me, since I'm not directly involved, I'll give you an example that I just had. Not very long ago, I went to Prague, Czechoslovakia, to celebrate the anniversary. of the decision to expand NATO and include the Czech Republic and Hungary and Poland.

00:24:43 Speaker_03
And they know what it's like to live without democracy. They know what it's like not to be free. They are adamantly in favor of President Biden's support for Ukraine. And they think we did the right thing to expand NATO.

00:25:02 Speaker_03
And they know it's Russia's fault, not ours. what's happened in Ukraine. So it was amazing. All of them came up to me and said, please tell me you're not going to put us through all this again.

00:25:15 Speaker_03
Please tell me America's not going to run away from the world again. We need you.

00:25:19 Speaker_03
And in Poland, which is a very conservative country, culturally, religiously, they just voted overwhelmingly to throw out the old party because they thought they were too close to the Russians and put in

00:25:33 Speaker_03
of the government that you dealt with when Hillary was Secretary of State, because they support a free Ukraine. And I just showed up, man.

00:25:43 Speaker_03
I didn't go there to do a, they like me because I was with them in the beginning, but they are worried about tomorrow.

00:25:52 Speaker_01
I think Bill's points and Joe's point's important. You know, look, We all know America's not always lived up to its ideals. We got our warts, we got issues. But we do set the tone around the world.

00:26:14 Speaker_01
And part of what happened before Joe got elected, during that four year period, folks around the world started feeling as if you know, the ideals of human rights, freedom, democracy, that nobody was looking after that. Nobody was promoting that.

00:26:36 Speaker_01
Nobody was minding it. And people like Putin became emboldened. And you saw the Chinese and even countries that were democracies start backsliding because they do still look to America as an example of what they hope

00:26:58 Speaker_01
a multiracial, multiethnic, multireligious big country can look like, that maybe people can still get along and act decently towards each other, even if they don't all look the same and don't all talk the same and all come from the same place.

00:27:14 Speaker_01
That's what makes America exceptional. And if you start getting into a situation in which we don't believe our own declaration of independence, if we're not acting

00:27:28 Speaker_01
you know, on behalf of the things that we say we stand for, that has ripple effects all around the globe. And these guys are exactly right. I just came back from Europe, and every meeting I had, the only thing people were concerned about was

00:27:47 Speaker_01
what's going to happen in this next election because they understand what the stakes are.

00:27:50 Speaker_06
Were you surprised, I'm sorry, just on that point, President Obama, were you surprised during those five years of the last administration how quickly that protection and passion for democracy

00:28:06 Speaker_06
was diluted, how prime the country was to just sort of dissolve and get lazy with it and let it go.

00:28:13 Speaker_01
You know, I will say, and Bill saw this begin to happen during his presidency, it then accelerated during my presidency. I have been surprised that there haven't been guardrails inside the Republican Party. Trump didn't surprise me.

00:28:33 Speaker_01
I mean, you watch Trump's campaign, you watch his career. He's never changed. He's a huckster. He comes from New York. There's nobody in New York who does business with him or lend him money. He's not considered a serious guy here.

00:28:55 Speaker_01
So I wasn't I was surprised he was elected, but I wasn't surprised in terms of his behavior I did expect and I suspect Bill and Joe you'd agree with this that there would be some folks in the Republican Party who would say No, you can't go that far you can't start praising Putin and saying that his intelligence is better than

00:29:19 Speaker_01
the U.S. intelligence agencies.

00:29:21 Speaker_06
Were you surprised that there were 60-some million people that bought it and voted for him and then did it again?

00:29:28 Speaker_01
Well, you know, I think that we can't discount the fact that the world's changing quick. And when the world changes quick, people get scared, and they get confused.

00:29:43 Speaker_01
And we had a historic recession in 2008, 2009, where the financial system almost collapses. We end up having, you know, we'd obviously already gone through 9-11.

00:29:55 Speaker_01
You got globalization, you have suddenly people feeling as if they're losing manufacturing jobs. Some of the towns in Illinois where I was representing, Arkansas where Bill was working, you see people starting to feel like they're losing status.

00:30:12 Speaker_01
Suddenly you've got the internet and social media and people are being flooded with all kinds of stuff and they don't know how to sort it all out.

00:30:21 Speaker_01
And when people get scared and concerned, then the appeal of somebody who says, I'm gonna make it like it used to be where you don't have to worry about it. Men are men and women know their place. That message can sometimes have some appeal.

00:30:37 Speaker_05
Look, again, I love this country. I am so... You better. I'm Canadian. It is the best country in the world. Well, you've only been to two countries, but... But it's... CNN International, though. It's true. I agree with that.

00:30:54 Speaker_05
And by the way, it's a phenomenal country. When it's at its best, it is the best.

00:30:58 Speaker_02
The rest of the world looks to us. No matter what you say, no matter how you characterize it, there's not a single country in the world that does not think we're the single most consequential country in the world. Not a single one.

00:31:12 Speaker_01
Including our enemies.

00:31:13 Speaker_02
Including our enemies. I mean, across the board.

00:31:15 Speaker_01
If there's a problem around the world, You know, if there's a natural disaster, if there is a crisis, nobody's calling Moscow or Beijing expecting them to help. Everybody's looking to Washington.

00:31:27 Speaker_02
But beyond that, here's the deal. Look, think about it. When Trump got elected, he said he's going to go America first, America alone. Look who he talks about his best friends being, Kim Jong-un. I'm serious. Jack Nicklaus.

00:31:43 Speaker_05
Hey, listen. He won two golf championships last week.

00:31:46 Speaker_02
The regular championship and the senior. I told him when he won. I told him he came into the upstairs oval and we bumped into each other. He said something about playing golf. I said, look, I'll give you two strokes if you carry your own bag.

00:32:01 Speaker_04
Hey, do you know this?

00:32:02 Speaker_05
President Biden, do you know that Kim Jong-un, he had 18 holes in one once? Yeah, absolutely. We're not far off that with this guy.

00:32:09 Speaker_07
I'm looking forward to your guys' merch coming out.

00:32:12 Speaker_06
Go ahead. Do you guys have an apparatus, a mechanism whereby you can contact one another like this without anybody connecting? Like a bat phone? It's called a smartphone. Do you have one of these? But could you do that? Yes. Great. Okay.

00:32:32 Speaker_06
Do you guys text each other? Yeah, I mean, like emojis and stuff.

00:32:36 Speaker_02
I don't text much, but we pick up the phone and talk to each other. I love that. Do you really?

00:32:40 Speaker_06
With no one else listening and no one else connecting the call?

00:32:43 Speaker_05
We can't be sure of that. We're not positive of the cyber side. But does the president, like, he picks up and he goes, hang on, I'm going to add President Clinton. And merge calls?

00:32:52 Speaker_01
That's a little too advanced. You might need a 25-year-old aide to help on the merger thing, and I'll cut somebody off.

00:32:59 Speaker_07
I mean, 1 plus 1 plus 1 makes 10 with you guys, so I just... I want to know, like, do you all miss something specific about holding office? Obviously, except for you, because you're in office. But do you guys miss something?

00:33:11 Speaker_02
I miss not having an office. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:14 Speaker_01
Go ahead. Look, everybody talks about Air Force One, Marine One. It's pretty convenient, I won't lie. But I'll tell you the thing I miss the most is, you remember those music concerts I used to do at... You can basically invite anybody.

00:33:36 Speaker_01
And you have this concert. And I mean, we got Stevie Wonder, Paul McCartney. Everybody will show up. They'll show up. And they do these rehearsals the night before a lot of times.

00:33:54 Speaker_01
And you can kind of sneak down and you could just sit there and watch Mick Jagger practicing with BB King or something on a blues night. I do miss that. That's so good.

00:34:05 Speaker_03
I miss the fact they don't play a song when you walk in a room anymore. Sure.

00:34:09 Speaker_01
Oh, we should have done that today.

00:34:10 Speaker_03
I was lost for three weeks after I left office. But let me tell you something serious. This is one reason that I so badly want President Biden to be reelected. What I really miss is the job. Not doing it. I'm glad. I believe in the two-term limit strongly.

00:34:29 Speaker_07
Yeah.

00:34:30 Speaker_03
But what I learned was on the worst day, when nothing was going right, problems were everywhere, there was still something you could do that would make somebody's life better. I love that. There is no job like that on Earth.

00:34:44 Speaker_01
I love that.

00:34:45 Speaker_03
And I want somebody that I trust to make the most of that every day. Because there'll be bad days no matter who gets elected. But he'll get up and he'll start thinking about that. And I think his opponent will be thinking about himself.

00:35:04 Speaker_03
who I can get even with, you know, who I can send away, who I can manage. Joe Biden will make the best of the bad days.

00:35:12 Speaker_06
And the team that you have assembled and your comfort with deferment, you know, you're, I don't know, for me personally, I just, I love leaders that have the confidence to hire those that they respect, that might make them a little nervous.

00:35:32 Speaker_05
And also not to think that you're the smartest guy about it.

00:35:36 Speaker_05
You're going to have every, you know, we've had people like, we had leaders like that in the, in the middle part of the last century who were put into government by presidents of old and they, and they made a lot of decisions that they thought that they were right about and they were, they were,

00:35:51 Speaker_05
terrible people. And when you let somebody, when that happens, when you think that you've got all the answers is the moment you don't.

00:35:58 Speaker_06
Ron Klain, you know, bringing us out of COVID, like it's just and on and on and on. The way in which that you surround yourself with the absolute best this country has to offer.

00:36:08 Speaker_02
I made a commitment. I have an administration that looked like America. I have more women in my cabinet. I have more, I've appointed more black circuit court judges than every other president combined in American history.

00:36:19 Speaker_02
I've kept my commitment of putting a black woman on the Supreme Court. I've had an opportunity to go out and get the best people. And by the way, I sometimes pick up the phone and ask these guys who they think are the best people.

00:36:31 Speaker_02
And I'm looking for people that most of all, though, not just are good, but care about what they're doing.

00:36:38 Speaker_06
Whereas the other guy is only hiring people that won't talk back, you know? And that's like... Well, mine talk back. Yeah, love it.

00:36:45 Speaker_05
What are those things that you look back on? Because the other guy has, as we know, no capacity for this. And President Obama, I'll start with you.

00:36:52 Speaker_05
What are the things that you think about that keep you... Are there things that you look back and you go, geez, I wish that had worked out a little bit better?

00:37:01 Speaker_01
not necessarily regrets, but things that you would wish had... Uh, handing off the baton, uh, in 2016. Uh, definitely, but... I think Bill's point is the right one, which is... when you're sitting in that office, you are essentially a relay runner.

00:37:19 Speaker_01
You've taken a bunch of problems from the previous president, and you're working through them as best you can, you're running the best race you can, and then you hand it off. During that time where you've got the baton in your hand and you're running,

00:37:32 Speaker_01
If you are focused on every day, can I make things a little bit better? Because you're not going to make them perfect. There are too many problems. They're too hard. If you can make them a little better. then a lot of people are helped.

00:37:47 Speaker_01
So the Affordable Care Act wasn't perfect. We didn't get everybody health insurance, but we got- It was a big deal. Tens of millions of people. Yeah. Really big deal. We got tens of millions of people- You can say the real quote on this show, yeah.

00:38:00 Speaker_07
It was a big fucking deal.

00:38:02 Speaker_01
We got tens of millions of people health insurance, and My successor tried to kill it, didn't succeed because it was starting to actually work. You get it passed on to Joe, and what does he do? He then takes what's already in place and builds on it.

00:38:20 Speaker_01
You know, expands the subsidies so that more people can start getting on it. Expands Medicaid so that more people can get on it. And so, With all the changes he made, healthcare in America is still not perfect.

00:38:34 Speaker_01
There's still folks who are having a tough time. But what has happened is that even more people have gotten coverage.

00:38:42 Speaker_01
And now Joe caps insulin at 35 bucks, which means that people who've got diabetes and really desperately need help, they're not getting price gouged.

00:38:50 Speaker_01
And he's negotiating with Big Pharma to make sure that drug prices are affordable the way they are in Canada. Thank you, I'll take credit for that. So what you get are these incremental steps.

00:39:06 Speaker_01
To answer your question, Will, you're never satisfied when you leave, because there's always going to be a bunch of stuff that's undone.

00:39:13 Speaker_01
But I couldn't have done the Affordable Care Act if Bill hadn't made the efforts he did around the children's health insurance program. And Joe then builds on us. And that's what you're hoping for each and every time.

00:39:26 Speaker_01
And let me say this, last point I'll make. It's not always just Democrats. George Bush and I had a huge number of differences.

00:39:35 Speaker_01
But he set up this program called PEPFAR that provided drugs and support and help for people in sub-Saharan Africa and around the world who had HIV in the midst of the HIV-AIDS epidemic.

00:39:54 Speaker_01
And because of his program, millions of lives, tens of millions of lives were saved. And we then built on that program. So it doesn't just have to be a partisan thing.

00:40:07 Speaker_01
Part of what you want, though, is somebody with Joe's decency and basic focus on the American people and who have a sense of responsibility to say, all right, I've inherited some stuff. Some of it's good. Some of it are problems. What more can I do?

00:40:21 Speaker_01
And that's the attitude Joe has.

00:40:24 Speaker_07
We'll be right back. So then what are the issues coming up that people are focusing on that you believe are the wrong things or they may be the right things and what should they be focusing on?

00:40:38 Speaker_02
I think they should be focusing on a couple things. Number one, we're going to, in the second term, God willing, we're going to make sure that we do something about gun violence in this country.

00:40:47 Speaker_05
Yes.

00:40:48 Speaker_02
The idea that we allow assault weapons to be sold in magazines with 100 rounds is just bizarre.

00:40:54 Speaker_05
Well, President Biden, I'm so glad to hear you say that because that was going to be my other question, which is, the Democrats never said we want to take your guns away.

00:41:03 Speaker_02
Absolutely not. You never said that. You said, we've got to be smart about what's going on. You just don't need to kill a deer with an AR-15. The Second Amendment, which I, when I taught law school, the Second Amendment wasn't absolute ever.

00:41:16 Speaker_02
You weren't able to have a cannon when you were, you know, the liberty is ordered with the blood of patriots. I mean, that's a bunch of crap.

00:41:25 Speaker_00
Well, it kind of brings us back to... President, we have a listener question that he already knows about, but if you want to read it to him, it's a listener call-in question.

00:41:33 Speaker_05
Uh-oh.

00:41:33 Speaker_06
Okay. This is unusual, but I think I know where it's from. We have a caller here. Mr. President, I'm assuming he's talking about President Biden here. You have done so much for this country in the past three short years.

00:41:46 Speaker_06
You've been the architect of an incredible bipartisan infrastructure deal. Under your leadership, America has been running a white-hot economy. Inflation has been plummeting, and unemployment remains at an all-time historic low.

00:41:56 Speaker_06
But like so many Americans, I dread the possibility of having to listen to the grating voice of a narcissist man-child on our airwaves for God knows how many more years. He's a bully that can barely manage his own personal life.

00:42:10 Speaker_06
I have a feeling this is about me. Has the strangest tan. No, that's Will. and he takes golf way more seriously than any adult man should.

00:42:17 Speaker_06
So Mr. President, my question is, now that you're sitting directly across from Will Arnett, is there anything, is there nothing you or Congress can do to get him to shut his big fat mouth? I'll take my question, my answer off the air.

00:42:30 Speaker_06
That's Justin T. from New York City.

00:42:32 Speaker_05
Justin Thoreau.

00:42:33 Speaker_06
Justin Thoreau, sleeveless.

00:42:35 Speaker_02
We don't know if it's Thoreau. Justin, there are certain powers that are beyond the president. That's well beyond my presidential power.

00:42:43 Speaker_05
I asked you, President Biden, last time if you'd make me golf czar, and you never answered me.

00:42:49 Speaker_02
I had to call Trump. He wasn't sure.

00:42:52 Speaker_05
I want to know, like... I just wanted to say, we're kind of back where we started, which was the whole idea of the messaging and what's good for people. And we're all so hung up on, are you Democrat? Are you blue or red?

00:43:06 Speaker_03
Yeah, but that's what campaigns are for. Look, the average voter wants to do the right thing. but how much bandwidth they have for politics. I mean, you got to pay the bills. They got to take care of the kids' health care.

00:43:22 Speaker_03
They got to make sure your school business is all right if you have children who are school-age. I mean, there's just so many things they have to do. That's our job. That's partly why we're here. That's why

00:43:34 Speaker_03
You're doing a public service by asking us questions. That's what campaigns are for. That's what you have to use them for.

00:43:41 Speaker_06
It seems like they're sort of making it sort of this binary choice between social issues or pocketbook issues. And if you're going to go for the social issues, then you're going to take a hit on the pocket.

00:43:54 Speaker_06
If you're going to vote for pocketbook issues, you're going to lose all the social issues.

00:43:59 Speaker_02
But that's not, here's the truth. The truth is almost all the rational positions on social issues and on those issues that are like unions, for example, they all in fact grow the economy if you do the right thing. They grow the economy.

00:44:15 Speaker_01
The economy grew under Bill. It grew under Joe. It grew under me. And the reason it grows is when everybody's got a stake, when everybody's making money. Morale.

00:44:30 Speaker_01
When people are getting paid decent wages, they have decent benefits, they feel better, they go shopping, they might even listen to this podcast. They've got to be pretty bored. But the point is that American economic history shows whenever

00:44:53 Speaker_01
Prosperity is broadly based, and all of us ran campaigns with this basic premise that if you give everybody a fair shot, everybody does better.

00:45:04 Speaker_05
So this whole idea that we've got to somehow make it great again is a fallacy.

00:45:11 Speaker_01
It's such a joke.

00:45:12 Speaker_05
You've got to fill them with fear. Because we've never been in better. And my next question, die hard. Is it a Christmas movie?

00:45:19 Speaker_06
I'm kidding. President Biden, if you could resurrect one person from the past to come hang out in the Oval Office, you update them on the current state of things, what's their advice? Who would you bring in to give you some perspective on?

00:45:40 Speaker_02
It'd be hard choice for me between Lincoln, because we are such a divided nation and how he dealt with it, and possibly Possibly Roosevelt. But look, I think the country is in much better shape than we're talking about it. I don't mean financially.

00:46:03 Speaker_02
It is. We have the best economy in the world, the strongest one in the world, period. Everyone, if you know how China's going to eat our lunch, Notice who China's coming to talk to all the time now, right? The idea that Russia was going-.

00:46:17 Speaker_02
I want to tell you a quote. I got a call from Dr. Kissinger before he died, about ten days before he died. And I asked me to give him a call. And I call, and he said the following thing.

00:46:28 Speaker_02
He said, you know, he said, not since Napoleon has Europe not looked over its shoulder at Russia with dread. And then you guys came along, you strengthened NATO, you expanded it, and that's changed. You've changed it all.

00:46:41 Speaker_02
Well, this guy's changed it all, but he doesn't care. He doesn't care. And that's what the rest of the world looks at us and says, do you have any interest in our concern? And can you imagine us being able to avoid a European war?

00:46:53 Speaker_02
Can you imagine that's why the hell we set up NATO in the first place? Can you imagine what we're, I mean, there's, it's just, he has no sense of anything.

00:47:02 Speaker_05
Well, he doesn't, he doesn't believe in anything. We know that, right? There's no.

00:47:06 Speaker_02
Well, he believes in one thing. He believes in selling what he going to benefit him personally. Right.

00:47:12 Speaker_01
Well, and I do think that there's one other thing. You were talking about, Jason, social issues versus economic issues. And why is it that sometimes things look good, but people don't feel good all the time?

00:47:28 Speaker_01
Part of it is, as I said before, things are changing. Folks are nervous. But underneath all the polarization that people are getting through TikTok and you know, social media and cable news.

00:47:46 Speaker_01
Bill's point about the average person just wanting to do the right thing, they actually don't want folks arguing all the time. They're really not looking for sort of a death match, you know, on every single issue.

00:48:02 Speaker_01
They'd like to see people be treating each other decently.

00:48:05 Speaker_05
Right, they don't want to go to Walmart and argue with their neighbor.

00:48:09 Speaker_01
about whether they're a Democrat or not. Or if you're in a little league and you're sitting at your kid's soccer game and you've got the parent next to you, you want to talk about kids and soccer. And I do think that underneath all this

00:48:26 Speaker_01
demonization and anger that people make money off of, and that gets a lot of clicks. People do want to see some decency and common sense. And I think Joe represents that, and his administration represents that.

00:48:42 Speaker_01
And if we can break through, all of us doing the work of a campaign, just to remind folks of what Lincoln called the better angels of our nature, then I think we're going to be okay.

00:49:02 Speaker_01
But the challenge we've got is anger and resentment, and calling people names gets more attention.

00:49:10 Speaker_01
And we do have to... One thing we do have to... I'm not sure, Jason, that in order to do the show, the performance you talked about, that it has to be pugilistic, that it has to be... hitting the other guy in the nose. It does have to be entertaining.

00:49:29 Speaker_01
You do have to be able to... You know, Bill, Joe, me, you know, when I'm doing okay, you know, it's about telling stories that people can relate to. Because people can't relate to facts and numbers and figures as much as they can relate to stories.

00:49:47 Speaker_01
And personal experience. That's what people relate to. And that performing by telling people stories, reminding them, who they are, what family means to them, what it means to struggle and overcome.

00:50:03 Speaker_01
Joe, what he had to overcome in terms of getting where he was. Bill, a master storyteller talking about what it was like growing up single mom in Arkansas. Those are the things that really, I think, resonate with people.

00:50:19 Speaker_01
And if we can get more of that instead of the kind of name-calling that we're seeing out here, I think we'll do okay.

00:50:26 Speaker_02
That's why you let people know you understand what their concerns are. Look, I mean, think about it. Everybody's gone through some tough times. But one of the things they wanted, my dad used to have an expression, swear to God.

00:50:39 Speaker_02
He said, Joey, a job's about a lot more than a paycheck. It's about your dignity. It's about respect. It's being able to look your kid in the eye and say everything's going to be okay. And there's a shot of it.

00:50:50 Speaker_02
That's what the three of us have tried to do. We've tried to, we're not, if you, look, if you want to be, if you can earn a billion bucks and you do it legally, great. I'm a capitalist, fine. Just start paying your damn taxes.

00:51:02 Speaker_02
You know what a billionaire is paying taxes? There's a, by the way, We have just one example, the extreme. We have 1,000 billionaires in America right now.

00:51:11 Speaker_02
If they paid a 25% instead of 8.2% what they pay now, just 25%, it'd raise $400 million over the next billion dollars in the next 10 years. We could take care of child care, which increases productivity.

00:51:24 Speaker_02
We could take care of elder care, which increases productivity. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Screw 25. Why don't they pay 40? Look, here's the deal. That's what everyone else is paying.

00:51:33 Speaker_05
Now who's Canadian?

00:51:35 Speaker_02
That's what I was thinking. No, but I'm just making the point that you don't have to be extreme in anything to get this done.

00:51:42 Speaker_05
Don't forget that Trump's dad once said, get that family out of 14G. Hey, listen. Listen. If this comes out and we And it's helpful at all. Is there a chance that the three of us could be on a bill of your designation, President Biden?

00:52:05 Speaker_05
Maybe a special $250 bill or something. Something like that. With our dumb faces on it. Yeah, I think it should be. Think about it. Don't give us an answer. We'll see you at the inauguration. $3 bill. $3 bill. Thank you.

00:52:17 Speaker_07
Well, I've been called as queer as a $3 bill, but anyway.

00:52:19 Speaker_05
Honestly, listen, we've taken up way too much of your time. You gentlemen are very, very busy. We thank you. Really, really cool. Thank you.

00:52:26 Speaker_01
It's just moving to be a part of the three of you. Thanks, guys. Thanks for doing this. Thank you so, so much. Really important. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Had a great time. Thank you. Have fun tonight.

00:52:34 Speaker_06
All right, guys. Wow. Oh boy. That was cool. That happened right there. I'm very proud of us for keeping it together, keeping it classy.

00:52:45 Speaker_05
How are you guys feeling about it? That's crazy, right?

00:52:48 Speaker_06
Yeah. I feel like I'm in good hands, right? When I'm around those guys. Boy. Anyway, that was a real privilege for the three of us. I hope our listeners enjoyed that as much as we did, irrespective of your political affiliation.

00:53:08 Speaker_06
Being able, you know, three knuckleheads like us sitting across from three leaders of the free world is nothing the three of us ever expected we'd be able to do. So thank you guys as listeners for enabling that.

00:53:22 Speaker_07
How about the secret service people on the way in and on the way out?

00:53:25 Speaker_05
You know, Sean was disappointed because he had heard, he was having the impression that we were going to have a visit to the secret circus and he thought that that was the thing. He thought that there was a secret, yeah.

00:53:36 Speaker_05
And so he thought... That's why I bought peanuts. And he said he wanted to see bears riding bicycles.

00:53:41 Speaker_07
I'm like, I could see that at home for free. Wait, so let me ask you guys, were you nervous?

00:53:50 Speaker_07
Because at the beginning of it, I remember saying, I thought I'd be more nervous, but because they're so relaxed and they feel like, you know, they just speak so freely, you feel like you connect with them, that the nerves went away a little bit.

00:54:03 Speaker_06
They're very good at disarming the folks that are sitting across from them.

00:54:09 Speaker_05
They were very chillaxed. I found them to be very chillaxed, and that's how I would describe it.

00:54:15 Speaker_07
But then when I wasn't talking, I was nervous. I was listening to you guys.

00:54:19 Speaker_05
I gotta say, I felt pretty chillaxed. Like, I know, you know what I mean?

00:54:23 Speaker_06
If you say it one more time, I'm gonna hang up. I think it was you that explained to me what the Netflix and chill phrase is. I never knew what the hell that meant. It annoyed me quite a bit, but then was it you that told me it's code for having sex?

00:54:42 Speaker_06
Is that right?

00:54:44 Speaker_05
I don't know if I want to get into more like the fact that you're a dad or that we're back in 2017. I don't know which one I want to hit first. You know what I mean? Yeah.

00:54:54 Speaker_06
By the way, have you guys heard this band Public Enemy?

00:54:56 Speaker_05
Fuck me, man. You're killing me. This is a group. You are killing me. I do want to say with the presidents, it was incredible.

00:55:04 Speaker_05
You know, and I mentioned this too, which was that the one thing that you can't deny, no matter where you are on the sort of political spectrum, if you will, is that under President Biden, the Jobs numbers have been incredible.

00:55:17 Speaker_05
And I think that he has earned the moniker Joe Jobs. Joe Jobs. He is, to me, he's Joe Jobs. That is great.

00:55:25 Speaker_06
That's great. Joe Jobs. Joey Jobinstein. Sure. Whatever you want, Joey. Joey Jobs.

00:55:35 Speaker_07
Joe Jobs is great. I love Joe Jobs.

00:55:39 Speaker_06
Unemployment is at a 50-year low, right? I think we covered.

00:55:44 Speaker_07
The economy is at an all-time high. It really is.

00:55:47 Speaker_06
Inflation is going to work itself out, but that's not his fault at all. That was something that the COVID and the whole, all that other stuff, I'm not smart enough to describe.

00:55:57 Speaker_05
No, and we never went into that recession that they thought would happen, and that a lot of that was due to supply chain stuff, issues, et cetera, et cetera. So, we're definitely back on, but the one thing that you can't argue with is the jobs.

00:56:10 Speaker_05
Like, it's just irrefutable, right? So, again, I don't care where you fall. I'm not saying he's better than your guy or your guy, whatever.

00:56:17 Speaker_06
I mean, he is, but what I'm saying is... Whether you're Republican or Democrat, you need a job, and he's the guy that's bringing it.

00:56:23 Speaker_07
Yeah, because he's Joe Jobs. So you have Obama and Clinton, and then we used this one before, but it's pretty beautiful. Go ahead, Sean. Biden. Joe Jobs.

00:56:52 Speaker_05
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