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Episode: #2227 - Adrienne Iapalucci

Author: Joe Rogan
Duration: 02:43:58

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Adrienne Iapalucci is a standup comic. Her Netflix special "The Dark Queen" premieres on November 12.

 

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In episode #2227 of The Joe Rogan Experience, guest Adrienne Iapalucci discusses a variety of topics, including allegations against celebrities like P. Diddy, the chaos surrounding political campaigns, and the implications of automation and universal basic income on personal identity. She reflects on the importance of having a routine for mental health, critiques social media culture, and shares insights from her comedy career, highlighting the role of dark humor shaped by her Bronx upbringing. Iapalucci also addresses issues of mental health support for veterans and the need for systemic change in addiction treatment, particularly with psychedelics.

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The Joe Rogan Experience.

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Showing my day, Joe Rogan podcast, my night, all day. Of course.

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It's pretty tight. Is it tight, you mean?

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No, no, nice, like tight. Nice. Nice.

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I feel like they're going to sue me. For the shirt? I don't know. Do you sell it? I'm trying to.

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I don't think they want to sue anybody. No. I think they want to keep it on the DL, especially you, because you could just go on podcasts and talk about it.

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Not if I'm dead. I could talk about it until I'm dead.

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Let's see. If they haven't killed Malice, there's so many people that they haven't killed.

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I'd be a fun kill, though. They just come to the Bronx. It's so easy to just kill me.

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Right. Anybody gets killed in the Bronx. It happens all the time.

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Nobody cares.

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Yeah, probably.

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They don't care.

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Few people would be upset. And then it would go away.

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My mom.

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Like Epstein. Yes. That kind of went away.

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It did go away.

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The guy who tried to kill Trump kind of went away.

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It did. Well, didn't that guy get shot, though? Yeah, he's dead. Yeah.

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But now he's gone. Poof, gone. No one talks about it.

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Do you think P. Diddy is in prison waiting for the Clintons to just kill him?

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Do you think?

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Every day I'd be looking for them.

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I don't think the Clintons were involved with P. Diddy. Do you?

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No, but Epstein.

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Was Epstein involved with P. Diddy?

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No, I just feel like these pedophile rings have to cross points at some point.

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The P. Diddy thing sounds like just complete unchecked depravity. I don't even think he was gay. He was just fucking guys. Maybe he's gay, but it seems like he's just depraved.

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I think you have to be a little gay.

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Oh yeah, for sure. At least for like 10 minutes.

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He's at least bi.

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I mean, it might just be whatever drugs are taken. I don't understand it. I think I had peripherally heard that P. Diddy had big parties, but I never heard of freak-offs or any, I never heard of that stuff until pretty recently, like post-pandemic.

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Jamie, when did you first hear about P. Diddy parties?

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I mean, I would think that he, I've heard about him having big parties.

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Your mic has to be off because of Carl's breathing. I'm breathing pretty heavy still right now. I'm just trying to keep it down.

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Oh my God, he's so cute.

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He's adorable. Carl and Marshall, they go at it every time he comes through.

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First time I heard, I don't know. I've heard of, I don't even know what rumors I would have heard. I just heard, like, you know, he's got crazy parties. I had yet nothing.

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Yeah, it was never like in the zeitgeist. It was never.

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It's just weird, too, because he always had the white parties where you have to wear all white, and I just feel like that's the worst color for body fluid.

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Ew. Yeah, right? Just shit, blood.

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Maybe that's how he kept track of who he fucked. That person's already gotten it. That person's already covered in disgusting stuff. That's how he kept track of that. Oh my God.

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There's so many horrific accusations, though, involving young singers, young children.

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Yeah, it's disgusting.

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It's insane.

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He makes R. Kelly look like a decent guy.

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Yeah.

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It's so crazy.

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It is crazy. And meanwhile, the guy was like hanging out with Oprah, hanging out with Obama.

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Jay-Z.

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Everybody. Everybody.

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I'm sure the Clintons were there at some point.

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Maybe Bill.

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Bill is so nice.

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I went one time. Was he?

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He's so nice.

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So charming.

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He is, and he's actually still kind of good looking. Like even for an older dude.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, why not? He's still so good looking, and she's just so miserable.

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Well, she's publicly humiliated and she thought that her big retribution would become president. You know, become president. Sure. And then that would be it. All water under the bridge. I'm a strong woman. I'm running this country.

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And then America was like, nah.

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I mean, it doesn't matter what color you are. America does not want a woman in charge.

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Well, that's not exactly true because she won the popular vote.

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I mean, not Kamala, though.

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No. with her about, like, what would we do differently if you were president about the Israel-Gaza conflict? Sure. She would have something off the top of her head. What would you do differently than Joe Biden?

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She wouldn't say, I can't think of a thing. She would never say that.

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No. Kamala Harris is just not good. She's definitely not good at interviewing either.

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No, I mean, I don't know if she's good at running things, because you'd have to be behind the scenes to see how that works.

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But when it comes to talking off the top of her head, what she's good at is a pre-rehearsed speech that she reads off a teleprompter.

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Sure, but if someone asks you a rogue question, then you have to be ready to answer it.

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Yeah. Rogue questions. You have to be able to say what differentiates you from Biden. You have to. That's pretty simple. Yeah.

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You're just like, well, I'm still alive.

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Yeah, that too.

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That would be funny if she said that. Right. That's what she should do if she could be funny. People love a funny person.

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Well, I'm here. I can answer questions. I can look you in the eye. Yeah. She could have just been funny. I remember what I'm talking about. Yes.

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I was surprised she didn't come on the podcast a little bit.

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It seems like, and this is all reports, these are all anecdotal reports, right? But it seems like her campaign was kind of chaotic, like no one could make a decision.

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They had, I don't know how many conversations with my folks, but multiple conversations, giving different dates, different times, different this, different that. And we knew that she was gonna be in Texas, so I said, open invitation.

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Right, you said you can come whenever you want.

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Anytime, you pick a time, I will be here.

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And you would have been the best person for her to talk to, because you're not going to attack her. You would just ask her questions, but that's the problem. I don't know if she'd be able to answer those questions.

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I'll ask her questions, but I think they had requirements on things that she didn't want to talk about. She didn't want to talk about marijuana legalizations, which I thought was hilarious.

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Why?

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Because of her prosecuting record.

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Oh. Well, I mean, that was her old job, though.

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Yeah. And she put a lot of people in jail for weed. 1,500, apparently.

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That's not really that many, though, 1,500.

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Well, tell those guys. Those 1,500 together in a room. Are they still in prison?

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No. Oh, OK. Then they're fine now. Prison really builds character. You go in there, you really figure out what kind of person you are.

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I bet it does. Yeah. But when you are held past your release date to fight wildfires for the state, because Kamala Harris wants you to do that, with the swipe of my pen.

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Right. I mean, it's not like the worst idea.

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to just clean up the wildfires?

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Well, you should probably pay people for all work. Sure. You know, even prisoners.

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That's just free.

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I got a problem with all that. I mean, I have a problem with slave labor in prison because it's essentially mandated. Right. You have to have a job in some prisons.

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But I mean, what else are you going to do in prison?

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Read books, do push-ups. Not have someone tell you what to do.

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I'm going to want to do hair. I'm going to want to cook at some point. You just do need a routine. Otherwise, the time never... How many books can you read every single day?

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That's true. That's true. Yeah. How many yoga classes can you take?

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You just need a schedule kind of just to like, I don't know, that just helps your day go by. Like even if you hated it, you still need, like when I was on unemployment for a period, I'm like, I'm actually very bored. You know what I mean?

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Like you like it for a couple of days, but you need that routine to kind of like, I don't know, if I was in prison, I'd want a job.

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This is my fear when it comes to automation, AI, and then ultimately I think everyone's going to have to have universal basic income. I think all countries are going to have to have it. I think the United States is going to have to have it too.

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And people need a purpose. They need a thing. For sure. They need an identity. And a lot of people identify with whatever their job is. They take pride in it.

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It means something to them to show up at work and have people say they do a great job and you're very valuable to the company and the customers like you. All that stuff is really good for people. It's good for self-esteem.

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It's good for giving you a purpose. If universal basic income is a thing, which I think it's going to have to be a thing, it's going to be real weird psychologically for people to adjust to that.

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I think there'd probably be a lot of riots. Like, I don't know, what else would you do?

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Just riot with government money?

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Yeah, I was thinking Trump might not win, and there was going to be a bunch of riots, and I would be able to just get like a free computer. Like, I was kind of hoping for that.

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Well, you could buy a computer, Adrienne. You're a successful comedian. No, I want it for free.

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Listen, a free computer is better than a computer you have to pay for.

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Is it? Yeah. Wouldn't you feel guilty at all?

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No, if they're rioting, everything's for free. That's the rule.

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That was the rule during George Floyd.

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But that's what I'm saying. During Black Lives Matter, I lived by a CVS that was like getting broken into all the time. I have like shampoo and conditioner for years.

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Did you go in there?

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Yeah, why not? I was in there when it was happening. I was like, well.

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You're gonna get arrested.

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How? Don't say that.

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These are all jokes, right?

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Wink. They're all jokes.

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Wink is a lie.

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Listen, I was just supporting Black Lives Matter and that's how you do it.

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That's how you do it. You get shampoo for free. Shampoo and conditioner. Yeah. The most racist thing I ever saw was a CVS that had everything locked up except sunscreen.

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I mean that's pretty much how it is in every CVS. And white people don't buy sunscreen because we want to be dark. So no one's stealing it or buying it.

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Yeah, good call. Well, they do if they're worried about cancer. If you're one of those people, it puts it everywhere all over your face. Meanwhile, you're putting toxic chemicals all over your face.

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People do that and they're like smoking cigarettes. It's like, what are you doing? Just get cancer.

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Well, I was reading this thing where they were talking about that. See if you can find this. So what this person was saying was that people who spend less time in the sun are more likely to get deadly skin cancer.

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Is it because your body's not used to it?

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Yeah, you get cooked. Your body doesn't have any melanin, so you go out there and you get fucking burnt to death, and your body develops cancers. But also, you don't have vitamin D, so vitamin D is a critical hormone.

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It protects you from a lot of things. It's crucial for your immune system. It's crucial for a lot of different functions.

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It's also interesting, because one time we were at the cellar and Louie kept telling me that I needed vitamin D because I'm so white. And I was just like, is that a real thing? It just sounds like dick. I was like, wait, what?

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Yeah, you need vitamin D. I was like, is that a real thing? Yeah, you're so white, you need some vitamin D. So you need to get fucked by somebody. That's going to help you.

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That's the only thing that's going to help you.

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That's the only thing that's going to keep me alive.

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Imagine if that was true. Imagine if the only way you could maintain health is to get fucked.

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I mean, it makes sense. People that are homeless are just like fingering themselves all the time. There must be something to it.

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I think they're mentally ill.

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Sure, but they also are like, I want to stay alive. I want to prolong this homelessness. Keep me alive as long as we can.

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There's a book I read fingering yourself for health.

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I mean all of the homeless people on 6th Street They're just like fingering themselves constantly.

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Yeah, there's a lot of that I kind of activity. Yeah with the homeless Oh, I think they just give up on shame on everything and they just I think you're out of your mind You have to be out of your mind.

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You're like who cares?

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There's this poor lady on 6th Street. There's a gas station that I only go to if everything's gone totally wrong and I need gas for sure.

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You just run out of it.

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But you're like, you're there, you get out of your car, you're ready to fight people. It's a sketchy gas station. Oh, I guess.

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And there's this poor lady who, her head, instead of being like here, her head is like, it's like it's broken, her neck is broken. Okay. And so her head is like down here. And she has to look at you like this.

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She can't lift her chin off of her sternum, like literally down like this, and she's just a bag of bones, just barely alive.

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Like, okay, obviously we're not gonna help homeless people, like there's no money in helping poor people. Like, let's give them all fentanyl, clean up the streets, do the kindest thing we can for them.

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Odium?

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Yeah, if I'm on the street for longer than a week, please kill me, it's not going well.

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Some people have recovered. Some people have gotten their shit together. How many?

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How many CEOs were like I was on the street for years and then I got some vitamin D. Well how many CEOs enjoy life.

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That's the real question. Just because something's difficult to do doesn't mean it's good to do. Right. Sure. Like some people think that becoming extremely wealthy and running a major corporation

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because it's difficult to do that's something you should aspire to. But those guys all die young. They all have heart attacks and strokes.

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Yeah, it's a very high stress position.

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Insanely high stress, and the hours are insane, and you're probably fucking miserable other than the time you're doing coke and banging strippers.

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Right. I think I would like the rich part and then I would just do something with like animals.

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Oh Yeah, I love animals.

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I know you do people forget like well, I brought Marshall just for you I mean Marshall is so beautiful.

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Like if I ever go bald, I told you I want like a wig I don't know how white women are now just wearing golden retrievers wigs because it's beautiful his hair, but it would stink when it gets wet.

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I

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I mean, everyone thinks white people smell anyway. Remember the first time you heard that black people thought white people smell like dogs? We love dogs.

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I have never heard that.

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Oh, yeah.

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Really?

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They always think we smell like dogs. Try hurting my feelings.

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I guess if you're around dogs, I think human beings smell if they don't wash. That's all it is. Like, I don't think there's a difference in the smell of black people and white people. And this is coming from someone who does jujitsu. Sure, maybe not.

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So I smell people like that close when their chest pressed up against my face. I've never noticed a difference in human odor.

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All I know is black people think white people smell like dogs. Wet dogs when they get wet.

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Maybe that's just like a fun thing to say.

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I think it's more than one black person saying it.

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For real? Yeah. I've never heard. Jamie, you ever heard that? Nope. Jamie never heard it. Well, I hang out with a lot of black people.

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Maybe they always say it to you. Yeah.

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Weird.

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I'm like, that doesn't hurt my feelings. I love dogs. Yeah, dogs are great. They're amazing.

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If you're going to smell like an animal, I mean, that's not the worst one to smell like. Cats are kind of crazy because they never smell, and they don't even take showers. They just clean themselves.

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No, but if you get one of those hairless ones, you have to clean their nails and their skin and stuff.

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The hairless ones are fucking weird.

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They are, but I like them.

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Dude, white people really smell like wet dogs. Black people, the smell comes from hair follicles when they get wet. Hair follicles secrete an oil that spreads somewhat when wet and a small amount of water gets in. Okay. Interesting. Yeah.

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And that's from Quora. It's hilarious. That sounds like a white person. But that's hilarious. Go back up to that. Quora is one of those answer websites, right?

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Oh, I thought Quora like a black lady.

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Look at all the Reddit posts.

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I understand the Reddit posts, but here's my point. Quora is like one of those, like you can ask it, like, how do you make a nuclear bomb? Sure. Like that kind of stuff. And imagine if it said, do black people really smell like dogs?

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What do black people smell like when they're wet?

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I don't think they smell any different than anybody. But the point is, you could never have that question on a question web page. You can't? They'll take it off? No fucking chance. But you could have it about white people.

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Could you ask it what Indian people smell like?

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I don't think you should.

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But nobody cares about Indian people at all.

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Indian people do.

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Yeah, but you ever see what they're doing in India?

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If Vivek Ramaswamy becomes president, you're gonna have a real issue with this.

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I don't even know who that is.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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You don't know who Vivek is?

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I try not to pay attention to what's going on.

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Good for you.

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I really don't know anything.

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Good for you. That's so healthy.

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I know like very little.

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If you can exist like that, it's a good way to be. You know, there's plenty of people in this world that are paying attention.

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I know. I'm not one of them though.

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I don't have a problem with that. That's Ari Shaffir too, he doesn't know what the fuck's going on.

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Yeah, that's why we're good buddies.

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Yeah, he has no idea what's happening. He's, I mean... You talk to him about laws being passed, he's like, what? That's not real.

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Yeah, Ari's the best. But he's also so autistic, which is why him even producing my special was so good, because he's so focused and he knows exactly what to do.

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Very focused. Love stand-up as an art form.

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Love stand-up. He's the best at not killing seats for the show. He is the best person for that.

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Oh yeah, he knows how important that is. His special that he did, the Jew special, was so ridiculous because they had to keep those candles lit and so they had to constantly light them.

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I was there for it, I opened for it. It was so hot and he taped it in June. It was so hot. I was on stage, I did like 15 minutes, I'm like, oh it's really hot in here.

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Boy, there's a fire behind you.

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I know.

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You think about all those candles? How much fire is that? That's a lot of fire.

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It's crazy. It was a crazy moment.

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Did they have, like, fire extinguishers standing by in case some shit went sideways?

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Probably, I'm sure there were some like, there might have been a fire marshal they had to hire just to make sure.

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Probably.

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But even if the whole place goes on fire, what's he going to do? He's be like, well, there's a fire. What's he going to do?

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He's going to run away.

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Right. So what is he going to do? I mean, you would need so many fire extinguishers.

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No, they're little tiny fires. They're a bunch of little itty bitty fires. There's not like one major all consuming fire.

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What if it gets a hold of like the curtain?

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Eh. Do you have fire extinguishers? How far back was the curtain from that? Was there a curtain at all? There was a curtain.

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I'm pretty sure there was a curtain, yeah. I mean, it looks beautiful, though.

00:19:32 Speaker_01
Yeah, it's not as easy to light things on fire as you think. And if fire marshals are standing by with a fire extinguisher, they put that shit out real quick. And that would actually be kind of funny. Yeah, they probably keep that on the show.

00:19:42 Speaker_02
That'd be fun.

00:19:42 Speaker_01
Well, he was running that special forever for a long time. And then you know, the whole Kobe thing happened and he stopped and then he came back.

00:19:58 Speaker_02
What's crazy, I was with him in, I guess it was Charlotte when the whole Colby thing happened, and he was sick. I was like, oh, we were on the road. I was like, just go to sleep. And then I wake up and I'm like, what did you do?

00:20:08 Speaker_02
I was like, you're sick, you're supposed to go to sleep. And then I was like, oh, Ari. And then the funniest part is people are like, we're gonna kick your ass if you're ever in North Carolina. And he's like, I'm there.

00:20:20 Speaker_02
They're like, all right, well, if you come to where I'm at, we're gonna kick your ass.

00:20:26 Speaker_01
Well, he was really into making fun of people when they died, because everybody was really kind to people when they died. And he was always like, fuck them. Some of them were really funny. The Kobe one was not. But some of them were really funny.

00:20:40 Speaker_02
Sure. I also don't think he knew. He didn't know the daughter was there. He was just doing it about Kobe.

00:20:47 Speaker_01
Jimmy, your microphone is rubbing. Oh, um, yeah, but just he doesn't do that anymore. Thank God.

00:20:56 Speaker_02
What's funny is the Uber came to pick us up the next day, and it's just like a black dude picking us up, and he's like, I gotta go to the bathroom. He takes us to like a transient bus station. The Uber guy? Yes.

00:21:07 Speaker_01
Oh God.

00:21:08 Speaker_02
And I'm like, does this guy know? It's a setup. I'm like, are we gonna get murdered? The guy leaves for like 20, 30 minutes to take a shit.

00:21:15 Speaker_01
No way.

00:21:15 Speaker_02
Yeah, before we're going to the airport.

00:21:17 Speaker_01
No way.

00:21:18 Speaker_02
He did, and I was like, this is crazy.

00:21:20 Speaker_01
I would've ordered a second Uber to pick me up where the first Uber was.

00:21:23 Speaker_02
No, we were ready to get murdered.

00:21:25 Speaker_01
You're ready.

00:21:25 Speaker_02
We were just sitting there.

00:21:26 Speaker_01
The time is now. This is my fate.

00:21:29 Speaker_02
This is my fate. We're dying right now.

00:21:30 Speaker_01
Not if you die because Ari Shafir decides. First of all, for the longest time, Ari realized that he could not have a phone because he would be addicted to social media and it was terrible for his mental health.

00:21:42 Speaker_02
And that's what happened.

00:21:43 Speaker_01
And so he had a flip phone forever.

00:21:45 Speaker_02
Oh, I know.

00:21:46 Speaker_01
And I was like, good for you. Like David Tell still has a flip phone. He does. And it's brilliant. Like the people that do it, Sebastian Younger, he came in here, he still has a flip phone. There's people that that rock a flip phone.

00:21:57 Speaker_02
If he would have not had that flip phone, he wouldn't have done the Kobe stuff.

00:22:00 Speaker_01
Oh, 100%. But I think things like that ultimately are good.

00:22:05 Speaker_02
Yeah, he's not. He doesn't regret it. Have you talked to him?

00:22:08 Speaker_01
He shouldn't have done it. Right. But he now he knows he should have done it. And that's just another layer of experience in life and just overcoming this horrific cancellation.

00:22:18 Speaker_02
Should he not have done it, though?

00:22:21 Speaker_01
In hindsight, yeah, I think he's probably it's probably not a good thing to do. To mock a guy and his daughter who died in a helicopter crash.

00:22:28 Speaker_02
But he didn't mock the daughter. He just mocked him. True.

00:22:32 Speaker_01
Yeah.

00:22:33 Speaker_02
So I asked him, I'm like, do you regret doing it? He's like, no. And nobody, nobody really, like people were upset. That's the whole thing with cancellations. People are upset for like two, three days and then they forget.

00:22:42 Speaker_01
Well, especially in this new cycle. This new cycle is so crazy. It's just, no matter what happens, there's always something right around the corner that just covers it up.

00:22:51 Speaker_02
Just a new thing to get upset about.

00:22:52 Speaker_01
Yeah, just another wave comes in and you no longer, it fades. Whatever it is.

00:22:58 Speaker_02
Bridges, I mean, I think about the FEMA person who got fired because if you had a truck, you have you had like a Trump thing on your imagine. I know. But it's like if you have any signs, that means your house didn't get hit hard by a hurricane.

00:23:13 Speaker_01
No.

00:23:13 Speaker_02
Come on.

00:23:14 Speaker_01
No. Because you could have a Biden sign. Look, it doesn't matter. Right. Any sign. But that's what I'm saying. If you have any sign. Depends on how the sign was secured. Depends entirely on how the sign was secured.

00:23:21 Speaker_02
If your roof came off, you think that sign's going to be there?

00:23:23 Speaker_01
Bottom line is, that's not what she was saying. What she was saying is avoid all houses that have a Trump sign. You cannot do that.

00:23:31 Speaker_02
Oh, I know. But I'm just saying, what's funny to me is, if you have a sign and it didn't lift off the ground, how hard was your house hit?

00:23:38 Speaker_01
Could be flooding. Your house could have been completely flooded. You have no power, no electricity, no running water. Yeah.

00:23:44 Speaker_02
I guess.

00:23:45 Speaker_01
Your house needs to be drained. It's federal emergency management. It's not supposed to be federal emergency management for whoever this one person who's in charge with ideologically agrees with.

00:23:56 Speaker_02
Oh, absolutely. I was making a joke. If you have any sign there and it survived a hurricane, your house is probably fine.

00:24:02 Speaker_01
Right.

00:24:03 Speaker_02
Also, I want FEMA funds to go to the Fyre Festival. That's all our money should be going through is white guys trying to run a festival who fail.

00:24:11 Speaker_01
Do you know that guy's doing another one?

00:24:12 Speaker_02
I know. It's not a fire festival, is it?

00:24:15 Speaker_01
I think he's calling it Fire Festival 2. Is he? Yeah, and he's charging like a million dollars a ticket. His move is to just charge an insane amount of money and see how fucking stupid some people are. I mean, I love that. The whole thing was nuts.

00:24:33 Speaker_01
It's like one dude, it's always like some guy who you think could be selling Bitcoin or a pyramid scheme, and now he's decided to put on a music festival.

00:24:43 Speaker_02
Because he wants to be cool. You know what I mean?

00:24:45 Speaker_01
He wants to party with people.

00:24:46 Speaker_02
He wants to party with people. But didn't he get famous people to go? I think a lot of people pulled out.

00:24:54 Speaker_01
At the last minute?

00:24:55 Speaker_02
Yeah.

00:24:56 Speaker_01
Probably when they heard.

00:24:57 Speaker_02
No, but who was the guy that was like, not Jadakiss.

00:25:01 Speaker_01
Ja Rule?

00:25:01 Speaker_02
Ja Rule was doing it with him. I mean, if you have Ja Rule on anything, it's not going to do well.

00:25:06 Speaker_01
Was Ja Rule one of the organizers?

00:25:09 Speaker_02
I think he was just one of the faces of it. I don't know if he put money in it or not.

00:25:12 Speaker_01
Right, like you gave him a piece of it or something like that?

00:25:15 Speaker_02
I don't know, he was there, they brought all these influencers out. I mean, listen, if he pulled it off, it would've been pretty good. I mean, he did have everyone post at the same time, what was it, that orange box or something?

00:25:27 Speaker_02
So everyone saw it and they were like, oh, what's this? And then all these rich kids are there and they're crying. I mean, honestly, the Fyre Festival was for all of us. That's what it was.

00:25:38 Speaker_02
For all of us to see all these kids crying in these FEMA tents, it was amazing.

00:25:45 Speaker_01
It was amazing. See if you can find his videos where he's trying to promote Fyre Festival 2. So he's walking down the street of New York City saying that so many tickets are already sold.

00:25:56 Speaker_00
I think they sold a lot of tickets. I'm looking to buy one. I can't find the website to buy them. Not that I want to go. I just want to see.

00:26:02 Speaker_01
Well, it might not even be real. He might be completely insane at this point.

00:26:04 Speaker_00
There's a lot of press about it. About fire festival to get posted on multiple websites. Mmm. This was all happening. It could have just been a press release, right? Where where is fire festival to get somewhere in Mexico on?

00:26:17 Speaker_00
My god, I hope the cartel this year. No coming up.

00:26:20 Speaker_01
Yeah this year coming up. Yeah Wow

00:26:24 Speaker_02
Who the fuck is gonna- Who's going to Mexico for a fucking fire festival? That's crazy. Just go to Cancun. It's so much closer.

00:26:33 Speaker_01
Yeah, yeah.

00:26:34 Speaker_02
Fire festival.

00:26:35 Speaker_01
Go to Puerto Vallarta. You don't have to go to a fire festival. What's the place that all the kids go to? Tulum. They love to party in Tulum.

00:26:43 Speaker_02
Yeah, have it there.

00:26:44 Speaker_01
I don't know why Tulum. That's like one of the major places where they have those Aztec ruins, I think, or Mayan ruins. I don't know why Tulum is like the big... I guess it's like beautiful. It's like where hippies and psychedelic people go.

00:26:59 Speaker_01
They go to Tulum. They do a lot of Instagram posts.

00:27:02 Speaker_02
I mean, that's all. Everything's about Instagram posts.

00:27:05 Speaker_01
I was watching this lady and her boyfriend the other day. We were walking on the street and they had basically taken up the entire street.

00:27:12 Speaker_01
The girl was sitting on this like marble bench and she was posing and you couldn't walk in between the two of them. And he was like 12 feet away from her. So there was like like what is this.

00:27:21 Speaker_02
You're just stopping. Yeah.

00:27:23 Speaker_01
And it was a long photo shoot like it went on for a couple of minutes. It was fucking stupid as shit. She kept changing her her pose and her face and her the angle that he photographed her at, I wanted to take his phone away.

00:27:35 Speaker_01
I'm like, hey fuckhead, get out of the way.

00:27:37 Speaker_02
Yeah, they do that. I was in CVS and they were doing a sketch and everyone's like, you got to get out of here.

00:27:42 Speaker_01
A sketch in CVS?

00:27:43 Speaker_02
Yeah, there's a bunch of people with cameras, and they were trying to do a sketch, and they were screaming, and this girl was like... This girl behind the counter is a nice girl, and she's also a little bit slow, so she's trying to get these people out of there.

00:27:54 Speaker_02
It's just chaos. Everybody wants a sketch. I get why people steal in CVS, because nobody helps you, and you're like, I will just steal. It's just, you're better off stealing than waiting there for somebody to come help you. It's just a nightmare.

00:28:07 Speaker_01
The amount of people that I've seen working at those kind of stores that have like some sort of odd wound.

00:28:14 Speaker_02
An eye wound?

00:28:15 Speaker_01
Odd. Some odd, like something, like their head looks oddly shapen, like they get hit with a brick, like something off.

00:28:20 Speaker_02
Well, that's where veterans go to work. They send you back.

00:28:23 Speaker_01
To CVS? Yeah. Really? I don't know. No? You just making that up?

00:28:27 Speaker_02
I make a lot of stuff up.

00:28:29 Speaker_01
There's so many of these fucking sketches and pranks that people are doing now on YouTube. It's like everybody. If you look at kids today like they did some sort of a survey where they ask kids like what do you want to be when you grow up.

00:28:42 Speaker_01
And most of them said famous.

00:28:45 Speaker_02
Yeah I mean you could get famous opening like unboxing videos like I mean if you could do that why wouldn't you want to do that. I mean I'd have a kid just as if they could do that.

00:28:55 Speaker_01
Well, you know that kid on TikTok, Keith Lee? Do you know who he is? He just reviews food. No. With sort of a monotone voice.

00:29:01 Speaker_01
He's actually brothers with a ... He was an MMA fighter himself, and he's brothers with Kevin Lee, who was a top UFC contender at one point in time. He just does these sort of monotone videos where he reviews food.

00:29:15 Speaker_02
Is he like ... Super popular. Wow.

00:29:17 Speaker_01
Yeah.

00:29:19 Speaker_02
It's like, why even go to school if you could just unbox a video?

00:29:22 Speaker_01
One of our current studies shows that 27 million paid creators operating in the U.S., 11.6 million of them working full-time as creators. Wow. Is that our number one job?

00:29:34 Speaker_02
If you're from another country and you're like, why don't we just bomb America?

00:29:38 Speaker_01
That's crazy. Isn't the number one job driving vehicles in the United States, which is one of the things they're really worried about when it comes to automation, because that's one of the first jobs it's going to go?

00:29:49 Speaker_02
I've seen those cars, but there's no one operating them and they're just driving.

00:29:53 Speaker_01
They're weird. Okay, number one occupation. Retail salesperson is $3 million. Home and health personal care is $3 million as well. Both of them are $3,700,000. General and operations managers $3.5 million. Fast food counter workers $3,400,000.

00:30:11 Speaker_02
What's interesting is the retail and the home health aides, they're the same people doing both jobs because they can't afford to live on just one job.

00:30:19 Speaker_01
So drivers isn't even in the top 10. That's interesting. I thought it was like number one of the top ones. So cooks is 2,000,007 and that's number 10. Stockers, order fillers, 2,800. And so influencers was what 1 million. That's what it was 1 1.11. Oh 11.

00:30:39 Speaker_01
Wait a minute. So that's more than that. So what the fuck so go back to that chart again 11.6 That's crazy So it's the most common job. So why is it saying retail salesperson?

00:30:54 Speaker_00
It's like literally three times more common than that Dig into where they're getting their data from I guess but Wow It says retail has been the most common job in the US since 1997.

00:31:07 Speaker_01
Not anymore, bitches. That's crazy. So that means an influencer or content creator, whatever the fuck you want to call people. That's me too, I guess. That's the number one job. Podcasting.

00:31:18 Speaker_01
I used to have a joke back when it was just reality shows that there's going to be a reality show about a cameraman on a reality show.

00:31:28 Speaker_02
Somebody's filming him.

00:31:29 Speaker_01
Someone's filming the cameraman unreal. What a crazy job You are a cameraman on reality show and then someone's gonna say but who's the cameraman behind the cameraman, right?

00:31:38 Speaker_01
And then it's gonna be like two mirrors facing each other with the United States is gonna be filled with just camera people filming other camera people I'm into it It was a joke, but it's kind of true now.

00:31:50 Speaker_01
Like once, because back when I said this, this was like, you know, 2000 something when I was on Fear Factor, there was no social media stars. It didn't exist. And social media itself didn't exist.

00:32:03 Speaker_01
But now that it does, now that you see the impact that it has and how many people are making a living as air quotes content creators. It's kind of fucking crazy. It's incredible. Yeah. It's a totally new market that emerged out of nowhere.

00:32:17 Speaker_01
And according to that thing at least it's the number one job in the country.

00:32:22 Speaker_02
Yeah. I mean it makes sense. People are making a ton of money off of it. That's why people are like filming every single thing that they do. I'm just putting it on Instagram or tick tock.

00:32:33 Speaker_01
Well they learn from the Kardashians that it doesn't even have to be interesting.

00:32:36 Speaker_02
No, it doesn't.

00:32:37 Speaker_01
You just have to have a new scene every five seconds.

00:32:40 Speaker_02
And also if it's like something crazy, if somebody's fighting, like a fight.

00:32:44 Speaker_01
That helps. Yeah. But it doesn't even, that doesn't even matter. All you have to do is just constantly switch angles. Do you ever watch a reality show? Mm-hmm. The scenes constantly change. Just switching.

00:32:56 Speaker_01
My wife watches that stupid fucking Kardashian show. I watch it too, but sometimes- She puts it on in the gym.

00:33:00 Speaker_02
... it's so monotone. It's just one monotone person to another monotone person.

00:33:04 Speaker_01
She just likes the clothes and the pretty houses and design.

00:33:06 Speaker_02
I mean, listen, I've watched the Kardashians. I get it.

00:33:09 Speaker_01
But the point is, every five seconds, the camera changes angles. You never have like a podcast. It's just you and me. The only thing that changes is your camera's on when you're talking, my camera's on when we're talking.

00:33:23 Speaker_01
Sometimes it's both of us talking on camera.

00:33:25 Speaker_02
I mean, I wish Kris Jenner was my mother. I mean, the way she's made these kids so famous. Could you mind telling your kid to fucking have a sex scene and then release it? Do you think that she did that? Yes, she absolutely did that.

00:33:40 Speaker_01
For sure?

00:33:40 Speaker_02
I think so. Really? I'm pretty sure.

00:33:45 Speaker_01
I reserve judgment.

00:33:46 Speaker_02
I think she did, and I think it was the smartest thing she could have done for all their careers.

00:33:50 Speaker_01
Definitely worked.

00:33:51 Speaker_02
Absolutely.

00:33:52 Speaker_01
And everybody has sex. Right. If you want to watch, go watch.

00:33:56 Speaker_02
Go watch it. You would never think a mom would put that out there, but it was pretty brilliant. My mom would never do something like that for me.

00:34:03 Speaker_01
Well, you know, she's a little unconventional.

00:34:06 Speaker_02
Sure. Yeah, it takes an unconventional woman to, like, release your kid's sex tape.

00:34:12 Speaker_01
She kind of turned her husband into a woman and basically made the entire clan super rich. Even Rob is rich. Super rich. They're all rich. Crazy rich. Yeah. For no reason. Because of that text date. Right. But like that is kind of the seed. It is. Yeah.

00:34:30 Speaker_02
Ray J was more famous than Kim when they did that. Right. And now Ray J is like nowhere. Like if his mother also was on top of it with Chris he could have been a bigger star too. Nobody gives a shit about Ray J anymore.

00:34:43 Speaker_01
That's crazy that he didn't capitalize on that. Because his mom wasn't Kris Jenner. Right, but why didn't he figure out a way? I don't know. What's unique about her way of thinking?

00:34:55 Speaker_02
I think it's just Kim is very pretty.

00:34:57 Speaker_01
That helps. He's a good looking guy though. He's got a big dick.

00:35:00 Speaker_02
He is a good looking guy. Got a big dick, right? I assume. You know, I never saw the video.

00:35:05 Speaker_01
How dare you lie to me like that right to my face.

00:35:07 Speaker_02
That he has a big dick?

00:35:08 Speaker_01
No, that you never saw the video.

00:35:09 Speaker_02
I didn't. I saw the video, but I didn't see his dick in it. What did you see? I think I saw it too late. I seen it years later. I seen it years later. I checked it out too late when the dick wasn't in it. What?

00:35:20 Speaker_01
The dick was removed eventually?

00:35:22 Speaker_02
I think the dick was eventually removed.

00:35:23 Speaker_01
Come on.

00:35:23 Speaker_02
I don't know. I've been searching for it pretty hard.

00:35:26 Speaker_01
I bet Jamie can find it right now on Pornhub. Let's see. Can you find it? Pornhub's blocked in Texas, Joe. Oh no. Well, you know what? Why is it blocked in Texas? You got to have certain laws if you want to have free guns.

00:35:38 Speaker_02
Why is it blocked in Texas?

00:35:40 Speaker_01
That's the weirdest thing. It's not blocked. You just have to have proof that you're 18.

00:35:45 Speaker_02
How do you prove that? With your license?

00:35:46 Speaker_01
Upload, yeah.

00:35:47 Speaker_02
You have Kris Jenner say that you're over 18?

00:35:52 Speaker_01
You have to have proof.

00:35:54 Speaker_02
Okay. I guess. Well, I'm going to go home and search it.

00:35:58 Speaker_01
Well, porn addiction for kids is a real thing.

00:36:03 Speaker_02
I dated a guy that had porn addiction.

00:36:04 Speaker_01
Yeah. What happened?

00:36:07 Speaker_02
I mean, we broke up eventually. He was also a little autistic. And then he went to see a sex therapist and I think they were fucking. So I guess she fixed it.

00:36:15 Speaker_01
Fucked his sex therapist?

00:36:16 Speaker_02
Yeah. Jesus Christ.

00:36:18 Speaker_01
For real?

00:36:19 Speaker_02
I mean, that's what he told me. I don't think he was, like, lying about it. What a bitch. Yeah, but you have to, like, it's like any other addiction. You have to, like, stop doing it. I didn't even know he had it.

00:36:27 Speaker_01
I'm just focusing on the sex therapist. Yeah. Like, how crazy is it that she's fucking her clients? Maybe her boyfriend wasn't fucking her at all, and she was like, at least someone's obsessed with it.

00:36:37 Speaker_02
Well, maybe- Give it to me.

00:36:40 Speaker_01
Maybe that's how she cures you because if you're horny if you're like a healthy person who's just horny normally and The person you're with is not horny at all and you're exhausted by that But you're a sex therapist and then you're you're talking to some guys good-looking guys Like I want to fuck all the time.

00:36:58 Speaker_01
That's the thing with and she's like, you know what?

00:36:59 Speaker_02
I want to fuck all the time, too Sure, but like a porn addiction you're so used like he would have like 300 screens open at once So one person to him is boring So that's what porn addiction is.

00:37:12 Speaker_02
I'm exaggerating, but you need a lot of different things open, and it probably has to get more and more progressive for you to get off.

00:37:18 Speaker_01
Wow. Well, that's where it gets real weird, right? You start getting into the darker side of porn, like violent porn and choking and gagging, spitting and slapping and abuse, tying people up. That kind of shit.

00:37:33 Speaker_01
Because if you're just getting your jollies, if you're not just trying to masturbate and have a little fantasy, it's got to get darker and crazier. It's got to really freak you out.

00:37:44 Speaker_02
But that's why I think you have all those screens open. You're watching all of it at once.

00:37:48 Speaker_01
You're getting tiny dopamine hits from a hundred sources. Right. And then there's therapists calling you up, get over here. I got 300 other therapists here. You're a naughty boy. You're a naughty boy. Get over here.

00:38:01 Speaker_02
Yeah, so I mean, how did she say?

00:38:03 Speaker_01
How did he say that it started with the sex therapist?

00:38:07 Speaker_02
I don't know. He didn't tell me like the specifics of it. We had been broken up already. And we like remain friends. And he just told me that they started sleeping together.

00:38:16 Speaker_01
That seems crazy. That's like prison guards fucking the prisoners.

00:38:20 Speaker_02
I mean, if I was in prison, I would try and fuck all the guards. What else are you going to do? I would do everything. I'd become Muslim. I would become trans. I would do everything I could do in prison to pass the time.

00:38:30 Speaker_01
Especially if you have a long sentence.

00:38:32 Speaker_02
If you're there for life, I'm down to do everything. I'll do license plates. I'm going to do hair. I'm going to cook. I'm going to do everything there.

00:38:41 Speaker_01
Of course. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird how many people are in prison. I mean, we went over this the other day, how many people are in prison in the United States compared to like the rest of the fucking world.

00:38:55 Speaker_01
It's like we have the highest percentage of people that are in prison, I think, of any country in the Western world for sure. I mean, you got China's hard to count because you have essentially slaves.

00:39:07 Speaker_02
Well, also in China, they all live in like tiny boxes anyway, which are prisons.

00:39:12 Speaker_01
Yeah. Well, like you wouldn't say necessarily that the people that make your iPhone are slaves, but they're literally sleeping in dorms and they put nets around the building to keep them from jumping off.

00:39:23 Speaker_02
I'd rather be in prison. How do you get in prison in prison?

00:39:27 Speaker_01
They probably like give you less hours than the Foxconn workers. Sure. Probably get better food. How many people? End of 2023, the U.S. had 1.8 million people in prison, which is more than any other country.

00:39:41 Speaker_01
China had the second highest number of prisoners with about 100,000 fewer than the U.S. But the thing about China, again, it's not just the amount of people in an actual prison. You have to think about the actual people that are slaves. The U.S.

00:39:53 Speaker_01
has the highest incarceration rate in the world, 724 people per 100,000. England and Wales has an incarceration rate of 145 per 140,000, and Russia has 581 people per 100,000. So Russia's nipping at our heels. Russian people are fucking crazy, though.

00:40:15 Speaker_01
US has longer sentences than many other countries, which contributes to the high incarceration rates. I wonder how many other countries have private prisons, too. That's the dark part. Well, that's how you make the money.

00:40:24 Speaker_02
Yeah.

00:40:24 Speaker_01
Yeah. Profit. Profit off of people. I remember when I found out that prison guard unions were lobbying to keep marijuana laws because they wanted people to be in jail. I was like, what? Yeah, because they want to make money. They want money.

00:40:38 Speaker_01
They need that job. They need those contracts.

00:40:41 Speaker_01
So, many countries have private prisons, including United States has the most private prisons in the world, 158 facilities in 30 states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, Australia, high percentage of privatized prisons, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Japan, Brazil.

00:41:01 Speaker_01
When did they start with the private prison thing? What fucking monster? Okay, Google this. What was the first private prison? What fucking monster didn't see... didn't see the road ahead when you allow people to profit off of people being locked up.

00:41:18 Speaker_01
What monster didn't see you're gonna just have people lock more people up? 1984, these motherfuckers. It's George Orwell, literally is Orwell. I would have thought it was before that. No, it's a fairly recent thing.

00:41:31 Speaker_01
Prison used to be something that we used to have because we had to lock certain people up to protect them from society. And instead it became, hey, I think I can make money. I think I can make money off people in jail.

00:41:43 Speaker_00
They're using people like batteries to generate money. This thing says Louisiana privatized its penitentiary. I don't know if there's a big differentiation between that.

00:41:53 Speaker_01
Privatized, which was run as a factory. Yeah, inmates were used to produce cheap clothing for enslaved people. Wow. That's crazy. You're producing clothes for slaves.

00:42:07 Speaker_02
I mean, that is basically just Xi'an. That's what they're doing in China.

00:42:11 Speaker_01
Right.

00:42:12 Speaker_02
All those clothes that are like $2.

00:42:13 Speaker_01
Yeah, that's weird, right? I know. You can buy a total knockoff of a designer dress for like $4.

00:42:20 Speaker_02
I know. It's great.

00:42:21 Speaker_01
I love it. You love it. I think there's a documentary on that that I was watching. My kid was watching, and I walked in on it.

00:42:30 Speaker_02
Was it like the Xi'an documentary?

00:42:32 Speaker_01
Yeah, they were talking about these people like they lost the contract because they weren't able to produce things as fast as this company needed them. And it was just all about the knockoff industry over there.

00:42:42 Speaker_01
So if you're a designer, you might like that top that you're wearing and people like it. They'll just take that top and copy it exactly. and sell for $5. And you're like, what? That's $59 on my website. Nope, $5.

00:42:54 Speaker_02
Why are there not knockoff iPhones?

00:42:56 Speaker_01
There are. Not only is there a knockoff iPhone, there's a knockoff Apple store in China where every single item is not really Apple.

00:43:06 Speaker_02
But it works just as good. It does not work as good.

00:43:10 Speaker_01
I doubt it. How long does it last? Why wouldn't they cut corners? They're already lying to you.

00:43:15 Speaker_02
I know.

00:43:16 Speaker_01
Why wouldn't they put a cheaper chip in the laptops? Wouldn't they put cheaper screens? If you want to use Gorilla Glass and AMOLED displays, that's just expensive. Use some cheap ass five year ago bullshit and just sell it for morons.

00:43:30 Speaker_02
If it lasts for a couple of years, that's great.

00:43:32 Speaker_01
Five-year-old bullshit still works. Yeah. It does. It's not great, though. I mean, I drop my phone all the time. Sucks. Try to register with the Apple Store, and they're like, nah, player. This ain't an iPhone.

00:43:44 Speaker_02
That's why you need Riot, so you can steal the stuff. It all comes back to that.

00:43:50 Speaker_01
Stealing all this stuff. But someone's going to make the stuff. Slaves. Yeah, in China. Slaves in prison in China. Yeah. I mean, what percentage of—let's ask this. What percentage of our electronics is made in China?

00:44:05 Speaker_01
Probably 95% well lockets made in Japan and South Korea like Sony huge Samsung huge, they're probably one of the biggest electronic.

00:44:15 Speaker_01
I mean they make everything they make refrigerators They make like smart Refrigerators where you can like check your refrigerator with your phone to see what the fuck's in there make sure your refrigerator is like not doing something Yeah, check it on you What's going on in there?

00:44:30 Speaker_02
How many ice cubes have you made?

00:44:32 Speaker_01
you lazy bitch Where's my fucking ice? Ice cubes from your refrigerator or from your freezer? Are they the dirtiest ice cubes of all time? Like, I don't ever want those in my glass.

00:44:43 Speaker_00
I just remember all the, I think the Apple stuff is all coming from China.

00:44:47 Speaker_01
You nailed it. Oh yeah, all the stuff that gets made actually gets made from Apple. That's all China. Laptops and computer monitors, China supplies 92% of US imports. Phones, China supplies 74% of U.S. phone imports.

00:45:03 Speaker_01
So Samsung does not use China for phones. And I don't know if it's an ethical thing or what, but I think they make their phones in India and somewhere else. Maybe Vietnam.

00:45:17 Speaker_02
Today's is there a correlation between them like stopping killing baby girls in China with making all of this stuff Where they go like let's keep them alive so we could have them no I think they just woke up and said we have like 85% men right and all these poor women are fucked you know like oh

00:45:35 Speaker_02
They have to keep fucking all these guys. There's not enough women.

00:45:38 Speaker_01
They have to live with like three or four guys just to balance it out. Gross. Take turns.

00:45:43 Speaker_00
Competition. They're not as highly competitive in China it sounds like.

00:45:47 Speaker_01
Hmm. They relocated some of the manufacturing from China, Southeast Asia to avoid high labor costs. What? Those slaves are expensive, Adrian. Samsung also hasn't been able to compete with Chinese brands like Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo in the Chinese market.

00:46:08 Speaker_01
Interesting. I've never even heard of those brands. Yeah, they make, Xiaomi makes high-end Android phones. In the rest of the world, Android phones are huge. I know. Because everybody uses WhatsApp. They don't really give a fuck about iMessage.

00:46:24 Speaker_02
WhatsApp is big in the Hispanic community, too.

00:46:27 Speaker_01
WhatsApp is huge. I have friends that only talk to me on WhatsApp. I do too. Yeah. Like, well, Zuckerberg owns it. You know, he owns it. But I don't talk to him other than WhatsApp. He's a WhatsApp. But he owns WhatsApp.

00:46:41 Speaker_02
You talk to him on WhatsApp? Yeah, I talk to him on WhatsApp.

00:46:43 Speaker_01
What does he say? We talk shit about things.

00:46:45 Speaker_02
Yeah? He's like, what's up? He's a nice guy.

00:46:47 Speaker_01
He really is. Even though he's a billionaire. Yeah, he's a nice guy. It's when someone's, like, really rich, like, oh, that guy's not a person.

00:46:53 Speaker_02
Yeah, but he didn't start out rich, though, did he? No.

00:46:56 Speaker_01
Of course not. He invented Facebook.

00:46:57 Speaker_02
Yeah, but some people are rich and their families had money the whole time.

00:47:03 Speaker_01
That's weird, right? Because then you're insulated from birth and then you go right into a deeper layer of insulation where you're completely disconnected from people. That's when you get into Bill Gates category.

00:47:16 Speaker_01
Let's figure out a way to block out the sun.

00:47:20 Speaker_02
You're so rich where you're like, I really want to fuck shit up for everyone.

00:47:23 Speaker_01
Imagine! Like, I was reading this thing about Bill Gates' idea to block out the sun, and whoopsies. Whoopsies, Jimmy.

00:47:30 Speaker_02
Sorry. No worries. It happens. I'll clean it. I'm a woman. I'll clean it. I know my place.

00:47:38 Speaker_01
They were talking about Bill Gates has some plan to stop global warming and shoot particles into the air to block out the sun. And people are like, hey, do you know how many fucking people are on Earth? You can't just come up with that idea and try it.

00:47:50 Speaker_01
What about the rest of us? You don't need vitamin D. But imagine being so ridiculous. You're so wealthy that you think, oh, I could just block the sun.

00:48:00 Speaker_02
I kind of love it. I kind of love that this guy's so nuts.

00:48:04 Speaker_01
He is nuts.

00:48:04 Speaker_02
And then you're like, I'm just going to stop water from happening. I love so many of the things that can do that much damage to the world.

00:48:11 Speaker_01
I think people should just stop eating meat. And then he just tries to get everybody to eat stupid fucking fake meat.

00:48:17 Speaker_02
That's fine, but imagine blocking out the sun. That's crazy. Yeah.

00:48:20 Speaker_01
He's also buying farmland.

00:48:22 Speaker_02
To do what?

00:48:23 Speaker_01
Raise cattle? Who fuckin' knows. Probably grow his fake meat food.

00:48:27 Speaker_02
Like GMO shit?

00:48:28 Speaker_01
Yeah, well, fake meat is made out of plant protein. And so you have to grow plants.

00:48:33 Speaker_02
I've never had it. It's nasty. I bet it's disgusting.

00:48:36 Speaker_01
The thing about it is, like, if you want to have healthy vegetarian food, go eat Indian food. It tastes delicious. It's good for you. And it's vegetarian. Like, it just doesn't have to pretend to be a cheeseburger.

00:48:49 Speaker_02
Right.

00:48:50 Speaker_01
The fake cheeseburger stuff is all seed oils.

00:48:53 Speaker_02
Right, just eat legumes and whatever you're going to eat.

00:48:55 Speaker_01
Yeah, you can do it. If you want to eat healthy and have delicious food, Indian food's the way to go. There's an Indian food restaurant in Woodland Hills I used to go to all the time.

00:49:07 Speaker_01
It was this cool place, it was like, everybody spoke Hindi, and you went in there, and you had to just guess what you were eating. Everything was vegetarian.

00:49:15 Speaker_02
That's pretty scary to me.

00:49:16 Speaker_01
Oh, it was super, super authentic. It was like, there's this weird offshoot Indian community, and so they had this Indian grocery store, and then in the back of the Indian grocery store they had this cafe, and it was all Indian food.

00:49:28 Speaker_01
It was really good, though.

00:49:30 Speaker_02
They use a lot of spices, too.

00:49:31 Speaker_01
Oh, yeah. They know how to spice the shit out of those vegetables. But it was good. It was like delicious vegetables.

00:49:37 Speaker_02
It's pretty healthy. It's very healthy. It's like vegetables and all that stuff's pretty good.

00:49:42 Speaker_01
Also, they use a lot of turmeric and curcumin and all those spices. That's all anti-inflammatory, turmeric. Right.

00:49:50 Speaker_02
I mean, you have to be close to a bathroom, but it is pretty good.

00:49:53 Speaker_01
Let's go. You've got to be ready to go.

00:49:56 Speaker_02
I'm going to eat this on the run.

00:49:58 Speaker_01
But that's my point is like if you want to fucking eat vegetarian, if you want to eat vegetables only, there's a way to do it that tastes good and you don't have to pretend you're eating a fucking burger. Those burgers are nasty.

00:50:09 Speaker_02
I guess you just feel left out. Like what is the point of pretending to eat that?

00:50:12 Speaker_01
Well, it's because the people quit eating meat.

00:50:15 Speaker_02
Right.

00:50:16 Speaker_01
I understand that. That's what it is. No, they quit and then they want the meat back. They wish they could have the meat. Oh, you can pretend you're eating the meat. It even bleeds just like a burger. Gross.

00:50:26 Speaker_02
Just eat a burger or eat beans.

00:50:28 Speaker_01
It's also super duper unhealthy for you. It can't be healthy to manufacture it like that. It's so processed. If you want to eat vegetables, this is how you eat them. Come out of the ground, clean them up. Put some spices. Cook them. That's a vegetable.

00:50:44 Speaker_01
You don't run it through fucking machines and glop it up with oils and extract things and compress it. Shut the fuck up.

00:50:53 Speaker_02
You ever see what tempeh looks like? Oh, it's nasty. I know. My friend was eating it one time and I was like, that looks disgusting.

00:50:59 Speaker_01
I was watching the production of tofu from scratch with all these machines. Why would you ever think that's natural?

00:51:06 Speaker_02
And tofu doesn't taste good. I mean, I know it picks up the flavor, whatever it is, but on its own it has no taste.

00:51:12 Speaker_01
No, on its own it has no taste. It's a crude source of protein that doesn't have a lot of amino acids in it. It's not as bioavailable. But you can live on it. You can live on vegetables. You can do it. It's not advisable. You just don't have energy, though.

00:51:28 Speaker_01
No, you're missing so many things. You're missing creatine, you're missing a bunch of amino acids, you're missing vitamin B12. There's a bunch of things you're going to have to supplement with.

00:51:37 Speaker_01
You know, there's ways people supplement that can mitigate some of that.

00:51:41 Speaker_01
Algae is a good one because algae is kind of a life form that's different and you can get certain vitamins from algae that you can't get from just like plants that grow above ground.

00:51:53 Speaker_02
This sounds disgusting.

00:51:54 Speaker_01
It does sound disgusting. You know what vegans should really consider adopting into their diet? Mollusks. Because mollusks are actually more primitive than plants. You've got to go over the fact that they move. Venus flytraps move too. They do.

00:52:11 Speaker_01
Would you feel bad about eating a Venus flytrap salad? If you do, you're a cuckoo person. You're not just a vegetarian. You're a cuckoo person. Now you think the Venus flytrap is smarter than cabbage? That's stupid. That doesn't make any sense.

00:52:23 Speaker_02
Do vegetarians not eat any vegetables either? Aren't there some people that believe all that's- Oh, fruitarians.

00:52:28 Speaker_01
That's a fruitarian. Yeah.

00:52:29 Speaker_02
So then what do they eat?

00:52:31 Speaker_01
Well, those people eat cancer. They die. I mean, that's crazy. It's so bad for you to just only eat fruit. You're overwhelmed with sugar. You're eating sugar all day long. Sugar should be something you have every now and then, I think.

00:52:43 Speaker_01
I mean, I think sugar is generally, it causes all sorts of inflammation and it's not really good for you. It tastes great, but it's not good for you.

00:52:51 Speaker_02
You mean like fruit sugar or like- Even fruit sugar.

00:52:53 Speaker_01
I think you should get fruit sugar in the form of fruit only. You definitely shouldn't get it in orange juice. Sure. Orange juice is no different than drinking a Coca-Cola.

00:53:02 Speaker_02
But what if it's like 100% just orange juice?

00:53:04 Speaker_01
Doesn't matter. Your body's not used to processing all that liquid sugar. It's processing it the same way? Yeah, exactly the same way. Maybe even worse. Because some, like my daughter once got one of them little apple juices from Disneyland.

00:53:18 Speaker_01
And she looks at it and she goes, Jesus Christ, this has 18 grams of sugar in it. It's a little tiny thing.

00:53:23 Speaker_02
Yeah.

00:53:24 Speaker_01
Like, what is a Coca-Cola, Jamie? Is it 30? Let's guess. How many grams of sugar do you think Coca-Cola has in it? Probably about 40. 38. I say about 30. What do you think, Jamie? Like 30-ish? 39? OK. That's it?

00:53:41 Speaker_00
Sorry, that's what it is. OK.

00:53:43 Speaker_01
So what is 12 ounces of orange juice? 12 ounces of, let's say, fresh-squeezed. So you think you're eating healthy. Fresh-squeezed orange juice.

00:53:54 Speaker_02
You still have to be better off having a fruit juice over a Diet Coke. Or not a Diet Coke, a regular Coke.

00:54:00 Speaker_01
Not much. Well, they're both fructose, right?

00:54:04 Speaker_03
About 30.

00:54:06 Speaker_01
Yeah. Real similar. Real similar to Coca-Cola. You do get vitamin C. You get that. But if you want orange juice, you should get it from eating oranges. Because your body knows what to do with that.

00:54:19 Speaker_01
Your body gets a slice of orange and goes, I don't need to do with this. This is good. There's plenty of fiber in there.

00:54:24 Speaker_02
OK, so let me answer this. If you're drinking orange juice, how come your body doesn't recognize that as an orange?

00:54:29 Speaker_01
Because it's going straight to your liver. There's no breaking down of fiber. And you're getting a dose equivalent to eating eight oranges immediately. Your body's like, what the fuck is this? That's why soda's so bad for you.

00:54:44 Speaker_02
Sure.

00:54:45 Speaker_01
Your body's like, what the fuck is this?

00:54:49 Speaker_02
Well, I stopped eating sugar.

00:54:51 Speaker_01
Totally.

00:54:52 Speaker_02
I only have fruit, but other than that, I don't have any cookies or cake or any of that stuff.

00:54:57 Speaker_01
How do you feel?

00:54:58 Speaker_02
I feel better. I mean, I lost a ton of weight. You did. You look great. Thanks.

00:55:02 Speaker_01
How much did you lose?

00:55:04 Speaker_02
From the last time I was here, probably like 45, 50 pounds. But I also was working out, too.

00:55:08 Speaker_01
How do your joints feel? They must feel so much lighter.

00:55:10 Speaker_02
They do, but I have a friend who's like, losing weight, it doesn't matter how much you weigh, it doesn't weigh on your joints. And I'm like, you know that's not true.

00:55:18 Speaker_01
That doesn't make any sense.

00:55:19 Speaker_02
I know, but you just kind of have to let people think that, because what am I going to do, fight with you about it? Just, OK, fine.

00:55:24 Speaker_01
She said it doesn't make a difference in your joints?

00:55:26 Speaker_02
It doesn't make a difference how much you weigh on your knees.

00:55:29 Speaker_01
Is this a guy or a girl?

00:55:30 Speaker_02
A girl.

00:55:31 Speaker_01
Hm.

00:55:32 Speaker_02
And I was like, OK. I'm just like I was staying at her house, too. And I was like, I'm not going to fight with you about this.

00:55:37 Speaker_01
I used to notice the difference when I was fighting, when I would lose weight, when I would compete. So I used to weigh like 155 pounds, and I had to compete at 140.

00:55:47 Speaker_02
And just that 15 pound weight you felt?

00:55:51 Speaker_01
Oh, yeah. I felt so light. I felt so light on my feet. You feel a total difference. Well, I work out with a vest. I put a weight vest on. So it's a 25 pound weight vest. And I do like all these body weight exercises.

00:56:01 Speaker_01
When I get that, 25 pounds doesn't seem like much. I get that thing off me, I'm like, ugh.

00:56:06 Speaker_02
Yeah, I mean my back, everything feels better.

00:56:08 Speaker_01
Of course, your joints, everything. You're overstretched. But your legs are probably strong as fuck. I used to say that about Ralphie May. I'm like, bro, if you could lose weight, you could kick through a fucking building.

00:56:20 Speaker_02
But I think your knees are just like, we need a break.

00:56:24 Speaker_01
Right, but they will get a break. They're going to get a break because you're going to lose 400 pounds.

00:56:27 Speaker_02
If you lose 400 pounds, sure.

00:56:29 Speaker_01
I mean, but I was looking at his legs. I'm like, the muscle you must have in your legs. You go upstairs. Ralphie was performing in the belly room. I don't know how many people are going upstairs. Ralphie went into the belly room, so he had to go upstairs.

00:56:41 Speaker_01
You remember the belly room of the store? That's a fucking old school staircase. But I mean, how often are you doing that? Well, he's walking a lot because he was always walking. Just walking. Imagine if, okay, I weigh 205 pounds. If I had to put on a

00:56:58 Speaker_01
What did Ralphie weigh in his prime, if you had to guess?

00:57:01 Speaker_02
I have no idea. 500 pounds?

00:57:03 Speaker_01
If I had to put on 300 pounds. And I'm in shape. Imagine if I had to walk around the Comedy Store with a dumbbell on my back or a barbell on my back with 300 pounds on it.

00:57:17 Speaker_01
OK, but I mean, I can make it like 30 steps and I have to put it down and take a break for like five minutes and then try to pick it up again. I'd be exhausted. This dude's just walking around all day like that.

00:57:27 Speaker_02
But if you're walking around that much, you're going to lose a lot of weight to lost that much weight.

00:57:32 Speaker_00
That's what you lost. Yeah. He weighed almost 800 pounds. Yo.

00:57:37 Speaker_02
And just walking up the stairs at the belly room, he lost 300 pounds? Just once. One time. One time? That's crazy. Why are we not having all the fat people walk?

00:57:46 Speaker_01
Wow. He used to weigh over 800 pounds. He underwent gastric bypass surgery and lost 350 pounds, but is struggling with his weight. He blew out his gastric bypass twice.

00:57:56 Speaker_02
Well the thing is with I mean a lot of people I get those surgeries you're not if you're not figuring out the reason why you're overeating like that. It doesn't matter. You can still gain the weight back if you eat small meals all day long.

00:58:06 Speaker_02
I have friends that have gotten it and you just eat small meals all day long.

00:58:10 Speaker_01
Right.

00:58:11 Speaker_02
And you're just still gaining weight back.

00:58:12 Speaker_01
Yeah. Keep you at least maintain your weight. You can't keep as much in there at a time as like a giant plate of food. But.

00:58:19 Speaker_02
No, but if you eat little meals all day and graze, you'll gain the weight back. I know people that have had that surgery and you're like, oh, you just gained a lot of your weight back.

00:58:27 Speaker_01
Right. So they're not eating because they're hungry. They're eating because they're crazy. Well, they're eating.

00:58:31 Speaker_02
Right. It's like the same way people abuse anything, right? Like if it's alcohol or sex or drugs, you know, it's the same thing, right? You're trying to like numb out and fill a void.

00:58:39 Speaker_02
So if you don't actually address that, you're not going to just stop eating.

00:58:43 Speaker_01
So someone told me this, find out if this is true. Does Bruno Mars owe the MGM a ton of money from gambling?

00:58:51 Speaker_00
Is that true? I've seen the story where someone claims they were there.

00:58:54 Speaker_01
Yeah, I've talked to someone who would know who claims it's true. But isn't that crazy, if true, that even a guy like Bruno Mars, who's this super wealthy, super famous, super talented singer.

00:59:08 Speaker_02
It doesn't mean you don't have issues, though.

00:59:10 Speaker_01
Right, but the gambling one is a nutty one.

00:59:12 Speaker_02
It is. Well, my dad was a gambler.

00:59:13 Speaker_01
Publicly, for an MGM, he has no debt. Because MGM probably made some sort of a deal. Right. Because doesn't he have some sort of ... He has no debt with MGM. wink wink, so they have a deal.

00:59:25 Speaker_01
So what is, they have some sort of a, he has a residency there, right? I think so. The word is. Right. I don't know if he's got a gambling problem.

00:59:36 Speaker_02
My dad was a gambler, and he made no money. It's the craziest thing to be a gambler when you have no real money.

00:59:42 Speaker_01
Oh, it's a crazy one. It's a crazy addiction. It's an addiction that I first saw when I started hanging out in pool halls when I was 23. I became addicted to playing pool. I was playing it all the time. I blew my knee out. I needed to get knee surgery.

00:59:59 Speaker_01
And when I blew my knee out, it couldn't work out. So I had to wait for surgery. And so my ACL was all fucked up. And so I just started playing pool with one of my friends. And I became addicted to playing pool. And I would go there all the time.

01:00:10 Speaker_01
Because as a comedian, I didn't have a job. I just would go on stage at night. And during the daytime, I'd hang out in pool halls. And at nighttime, I'd hang out in pool halls. got around these people that I'd never known anybody like that before.

01:00:22 Speaker_01
Just fully addicted to gambling all day long. They would go to the racetrack. They would go to off-track betting.

01:00:29 Speaker_02
My dad used to take me to OTB as a kid. That's brutal. And that's when they used to let you smoke. You just come home smelling like smoke.

01:00:36 Speaker_01
It's disgusting. And you're hanging out in there as a kid.

01:00:37 Speaker_02
Me and my sister, we would hang out with my dad in the OTB for hours.

01:00:41 Speaker_01
I feel like such a good dad.

01:00:43 Speaker_02
Yeah you're way better dad. It wouldn't be bad if my dad was gambling and he was like you know he was a mailman. You can't you can't gamble. You can't do both of those things at the same time.

01:00:52 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's a crazy one. It's a really. Who was it that told us that the dad the dad was gambling so hard they lost their house.

01:01:04 Speaker_01
Fuck, I forgot the whole story, but it's just, you don't hear a story very rarely about a gambling addict who kills it and they retire in Vegas and everything.

01:01:14 Speaker_02
No, because you keep going until you eventually lose everything.

01:01:17 Speaker_01
Yeah, it's a dark one. Did you see Uncut Gems?

01:01:21 Speaker_02
No.

01:01:22 Speaker_01
You should see it. Well, it might be too close to home. It doesn't matter. It's Adam Sandler's, I think, his best movie ever, and it wasn't even a comedy at all. It's a drama. He fucking kills in it, too. It's so good.

01:01:34 Speaker_02
I have heard other people say that.

01:01:35 Speaker_01
It's so good. I gotta watch it. But it's, for me, like, having known those people, and it's so filled with anxiety, because it's a sports betting thing. Sports bettors are the craziest ones, because there's so many different ways to bet.

01:01:48 Speaker_01
You can bet the spread. You can bet parlays. You can do all.

01:01:51 Speaker_02
My dad, for a while, my dad was, like, taking money from his pension, which, like, yeah. So when he died, there was, like, really not that much money. My mom was forcing him to go to Gamblers Anonymous while he was also still gambling.

01:02:03 Speaker_01
It's not gonna help if you don't really want to stop right if you don't want to stop you're not gonna stop I think food is the hardest one Because food addiction you always have to eat food, right?

01:02:16 Speaker_02
All the other ones you can kind of just not eating sugar because once I start eating it I can't stop so then once it's like out of your system. You don't crave it anymore. I

01:02:24 Speaker_01
Well, that's because your gut bacteria changes.

01:02:26 Speaker_02
That makes sense.

01:02:27 Speaker_01
Yeah. What is it? Candida? Is that what it is? There's a specific type of gut flora that consumes sugar, and it thrives on sugar. And with people that eat a lot of sugar, it's very prominent in their gut bacteria. And it literally changes your brain.

01:02:45 Speaker_01
It changes your chemistry. It changes your mood.

01:02:47 Speaker_02
Doesn't sugar also just like a breeding ground for cancer, like when you have cancer?

01:02:51 Speaker_01
One of the things they tell you if you get cancer, stop all sugar, get on a ketogenic diet. So get your body to eat like high fats. Yeah, eat a lot of macadamia nuts and things with, you know, things you get a lot of fat from.

01:03:03 Speaker_01
And just that's your body starts burning fat, which you feel so much better when you live like that. Your brain works better.

01:03:10 Speaker_02
Yeah, for sure. You're just like in a brain fog.

01:03:12 Speaker_01
Yeah, for sure. For me, I mean, you know, I'm Italian, so I grew up eating pasta and bread and pizza. It was like common.

01:03:20 Speaker_01
And when I stopped doing it, when I went like on a carnivore diet, the first thing that I thought that was really bizarre was I wasn't hungry during the day. I never got this famished starvation feeling.

01:03:33 Speaker_02
Isn't it like if you're eating stuff that's high in carbohydrates like that, doesn't your blood sugar drop really quickly and stuff?

01:03:40 Speaker_01
Yeah, it spikes when you eat it. It's insulin. Your body produces a ton of insulin. You want your body to run on ketones. If your body runs on ketones, it works better.

01:03:52 Speaker_01
One of the things that I noticed almost immediately was when I came in to do podcasts, I was much better at it. my brain, just from a performance enhancing perspective, my brain functions better. I can form sentences better.

01:04:07 Speaker_02
If I was eating a lot of sugar, you almost get that same hungover feeling as if you drink. I've had that where if you binge eat sugar, and then the next day you're like, oh my god, I feel so hungover.

01:04:18 Speaker_01
It's similar. Yeah. It's similar. It's not as extreme, because you're probably not dehydrated too. But yeah, your body's like, what are you doing to me, man? What are you doing to me? It's not good. It's not good. Not at all. But it's so delicious.

01:04:31 Speaker_01
It is, sure. Cake is so fucking good while you're eating it. I know. While you're eating it, you're like, God, this is so good.

01:04:36 Speaker_02
That's how my dad felt gambling on the horses. He was like, this feels so good. So they would send us to Catholic school, and he would not pay tuition. And then they would call me in to talk to me. Oh, no. And I'd have to go talk to my dad.

01:04:51 Speaker_01
And he was gambling the money away?

01:04:53 Speaker_02
Yeah, my dad was always gambling.

01:04:56 Speaker_01
I think people need some excitement in their life, you know?

01:05:00 Speaker_02
Sure. And it's like, why are you doing that? What are you trying to numb out? Because God knows what he was, you know what I mean? Like everyone's kind of trying to fix their problems from their childhood or they're not.

01:05:10 Speaker_01
There's that, but I think with gambling, it's also it's excitement. Yes. And you get addicted to just having a purpose and having excitement. Your purpose is to figure out when the Knicks are going to win by 17 points. Sure. And if they win, you win.

01:05:24 Speaker_01
And then yes, I'm alive.

01:05:27 Speaker_02
It like spikes, like you're just like that feeling of like winning and then that feeling of losing.

01:05:31 Speaker_01
Well, that's the craziest thing about the Adam Sandler movie. There's a moment in it, spoiler alert, where he does make this big win.

01:05:37 Speaker_01
And so with this big win, he's going to be able to pay all these people off that are trying to kill him, and he immediately doubles down and puts it on another bet.

01:05:43 Speaker_02
You're like, what the fuck are you doing? Right, because that's the thing. You're chasing that high constantly.

01:05:49 Speaker_02
I had a friend who was a huge gambler, and he lost so much money, and no matter how much he gambles, if he's up $15,000, he's still chasing that $8 million loss.

01:05:57 Speaker_02
So it doesn't matter, he's constantly chasing that big loss, and no matter how much he wins, he's like, yeah, but I still lost all that other money, so I'm gonna keep chasing this.

01:06:08 Speaker_01
My good friend Dana White is a gambling addict.

01:06:11 Speaker_02
And also if you're super rich, you just have more to lose.

01:06:14 Speaker_01
Oh yeah, he goes hard. We went to visit him at Green Valley. Was it Green? No. River? Red Rocks? Red Rocks. We went to visit him at Red Rocks, Jamie and I went. And when we got there, he was $600,000 down. When we got there. That's crazy. Playing blackjack.

01:06:30 Speaker_01
But at the end of the night, he stayed till like six in the morning, he was $600,000 up. So he won that money back and then he got them for 600 grand. It's crazy. He's there all the time. He loves it.

01:06:43 Speaker_01
But he's worth, I don't know what he's worth, hundreds of millions of dollars. Right. He can get away with that. Sure.

01:06:49 Speaker_02
Not my dad who's making 40 grand a year.

01:06:51 Speaker_01
But it's nutty that even a wealthy guy, you would think, you're that wealthy, why would you want to gamble? It's just the feeling.

01:06:58 Speaker_02
There's nothing that replicates that feeling that you get when you're winning or losing.

01:07:03 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's a real drug. For sure, it's a weird one. It's a really weird.

01:07:07 Speaker_01
It's like it hijacks like your human reward system That's built to solve problems and overcome adversaries and you know conquer and get conquered like this It's hijacking that little part of your brain If you were a gambler, what do you think your game would be?

01:07:28 Speaker_02
Whenever I do it, it's just like slots.

01:07:30 Speaker_01
Really? That's the dumbest one.

01:07:31 Speaker_02
I know, because I don't really know how to play blackjack or anything. So I'm just like... I'm going to lose all my money.

01:07:41 Speaker_01
Would you want to learn, though?

01:07:42 Speaker_02
I would like to learn, yeah. I did learn blackjack a little bit. My friend was teaching me.

01:07:47 Speaker_01
I think I could learn blackjack craps. I'm like, you might as well be trying to teach me how to read ancient Hebrew.

01:07:53 Speaker_02
The weird one to me is someone who puts all the money on the red or black.

01:07:56 Speaker_01
Oh, roulette?

01:07:57 Speaker_02
Yeah.

01:07:57 Speaker_01
That's a nutty one.

01:07:58 Speaker_02
It is, because don't you have to get the number? How do you even bet on that? It's such a chance.

01:08:04 Speaker_01
I think there's a bunch of different ways you can bet. I think you can bet red or black. You can bet specific numbers. I think there's a bunch of different ways. But if you wanted to bet at all, red or black, I think you can. I know that.

01:08:16 Speaker_01
I think you can bet $100,000 on one roll. I think it's going to come out red.

01:08:19 Speaker_02
I don't know, I just imagine like the feeling you get putting, say you put a hundred grand down and then you lose and you're like, no! That's my children's tuition. There goes our house.

01:08:32 Speaker_01
But that thing addicts people. I mean, that's the argument why casinos shouldn't be everywhere because people would just, everywhere they would be falling into gambling addiction.

01:08:41 Speaker_02
For the most, I mean casinos, like there's one in Yonkers in New York. It's so depressing. It's just all old people that are there on disability just sitting there and they're doing that thing. The slots.

01:08:50 Speaker_01
The slots and you're smoking. I know. Just waiting to die.

01:08:55 Speaker_02
It's very sad. You're waiting to die.

01:08:56 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's a dark thing that you just sit these people in front of those things and just they press buttons. And all the lights are going on, so the little brain is getting activity.

01:09:06 Speaker_02
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. My mother told me that my grandmother was like a big gambler and she also didn't have money. It's crazy when people who are poor are gambling.

01:09:15 Speaker_02
And she would lose the money all the time, like the rent money. My grandfather used to hit her.

01:09:20 Speaker_01
Oh, God.

01:09:20 Speaker_02
I know, and I was like, I guess he didn't hit her hard enough to learn. Because she kept doing it. It didn't work.

01:09:27 Speaker_01
She just kept doing it. My grandmother used to run the numbers for the mob.

01:09:32 Speaker_02
Interesting.

01:09:32 Speaker_01
Yeah, she actually went to jail. She went to jail for like six months.

01:09:36 Speaker_02
You really are Italian. I didn't even know you were Italian.

01:09:39 Speaker_01
Yeah, my grandmother, she was addicted to the numbers, and she would always talk about the numbers. Like, I was gonna bet this, that, and that, but this one came through, and I changed my mind. She was always like, changed her mind at the last minute.

01:09:51 Speaker_02
That's gotta be the whole time, where you're just like, should I do this number, should I do that number?

01:09:55 Speaker_01
Most conversations I had with her were about either ghosts, psychics, or the numbers.

01:10:01 Speaker_02
I mean, do psychics work? Because wouldn't you think they could predict the numbers?

01:10:06 Speaker_01
Yeah, I think psychic phenomenon is an emerging property of human consciousness that's not quite there yet. I think that language didn't develop overnight. I think eyesight didn't develop overnight.

01:10:20 Speaker_01
And I think psychic connection between human beings is a real thing that nobody, I think some people are better at it. They have more of a gene for it or more of a, It could be like a biochemistry thing. It could be a psychology thing.

01:10:39 Speaker_01
There's something that you connect to sometimes where you know something.

01:10:43 Speaker_02
Right.

01:10:44 Speaker_01
But you don't know why you know it. There's when you know someone's going to call and then they call you thinking about someone they call you. I think that's real. I think it's just not you can't put it on a scale.

01:10:54 Speaker_01
I think the problem is it's too ethereal. It's like too ephemeral rather it's too It's not quite there yet, but I think it's an emerging thing that's happening.

01:11:04 Speaker_02
Would you want to know the day you're going to die if you could find out?

01:11:06 Speaker_01
No.

01:11:07 Speaker_02
Would you want to know how you're going to die?

01:11:09 Speaker_01
No. No. I'm interested in while I'm alive, just living.

01:11:14 Speaker_02
I would like to know the day.

01:11:15 Speaker_01
I wouldn't want to know. I don't want to know.

01:11:17 Speaker_02
Because then I would just take a lot more chances.

01:11:18 Speaker_01
You'd be freaking out the last few days.

01:11:20 Speaker_02
Sure, but I would probably do a lot of stuff now if I knew I was going to die at 70 or 80. Well, you probably are going to die at 70 or 80.

01:11:28 Speaker_01
Yeah, but you don't know for sure. You don't know for sure. Well, technology could come along and extend that quite a bit.

01:11:33 Speaker_02
Because then I would try and see if I could die before, just run across the highway.

01:11:37 Speaker_01
Really? Just beat the system?

01:11:40 Speaker_02
See if I could beat the system.

01:11:41 Speaker_01
You could always jump off a bridge. Imagine that.

01:11:43 Speaker_02
George Washington Bridge, if I was going to do it, that's the bridge to go off of.

01:11:47 Speaker_01
Do people do that?

01:11:49 Speaker_02
I'm sure they do. But you got to do it when it screws enough people like Labor Day weekend or something. Just hold that traffic up.

01:11:55 Speaker_01
I had a friend who jumped off the Golden Gate.

01:11:58 Speaker_02
I guess he died.

01:11:59 Speaker_01
He did.

01:11:59 Speaker_02
Do you ever see that documentary about the people that live?

01:12:01 Speaker_01
I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it. I know about it.

01:12:04 Speaker_02
It's interesting because some of the people that lived are like, as soon as you jump, you regret it.

01:12:07 Speaker_01
Yeah, of course. It's like your body's like freaking out. It's like, oh my God. You have three seconds to think about life before you plummet 75 miles an hour into the ocean.

01:12:17 Speaker_02
They always stop traffic, too, on the bridge.

01:12:19 Speaker_01
Which is weird.

01:12:20 Speaker_02
Right, because you're like, they're already dead.

01:12:21 Speaker_01
Pop out of the water and land in the middle of the road.

01:12:23 Speaker_02
Just go on the ground and look for them. What are we doing up here? Why can't I go over the bridge?

01:12:27 Speaker_01
Why are you stopping traffic on the bridge? I guess it's to make sure that nobody pushed them. Look for evidence of fingernails clawing at the poles.

01:12:35 Speaker_02
Sure, but the highway is fine, though.

01:12:39 Speaker_01
I agree.

01:12:40 Speaker_02
Just look on the edges.

01:12:41 Speaker_01
I think whenever they get a chance to shut things down, they like it.

01:12:44 Speaker_02
One time I got hit by a car, a drunk driver, and they shut the highway down. All the cars are there and you kinda just throw like, it's amazing.

01:12:52 Speaker_01
This is all from me. We did this. Yeah, fuck you. It's kinda weird.

01:12:56 Speaker_02
You guys aren't picking your kids up.

01:12:58 Speaker_01
Yeah, sorry.

01:12:59 Speaker_02
Because this drunk driver decided to hit me.

01:13:00 Speaker_01
Oh, guess you're gonna shit your pants. Sorry, not gonna make it home in time. That's true. Fuck yeah, it's true.

01:13:07 Speaker_02
I had a drunk driver hit my car and then asked me if I would help them push their car off the highway.

01:13:12 Speaker_01
Oh, that's adorable. Yeah, he was so wrecked. How drunk was he?

01:13:15 Speaker_02
I don't know, he went away in handcuffs, but like, he had an Audi and he, it wasn't even his car.

01:13:20 Speaker_01
Oh, Jesus.

01:13:22 Speaker_02
He was undocumented. Oh, Jesus. I don't even know if he, did he have a license? I don't know, but it was crazy, the whole situation. He was like, hey, can you push me off the highway? I was like, probably not.

01:13:32 Speaker_01
God damn, dude, that's how people die, too. A buddy of mine from high school died that way. He was changing his tire, side of a highway.

01:13:39 Speaker_02
That's crazy.

01:13:39 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's so dangerous. People don't fucking pay attention.

01:13:43 Speaker_02
They don't, especially if it's late at night?

01:13:45 Speaker_01
Well, especially now. This was many years ago, before cell phones, when this kid died. But this, like, now? The odds are, like, when I see people on motorcycles, I'm like, God damn, that's so risky.

01:13:56 Speaker_02
It's very risky.

01:13:57 Speaker_01
So few people are paying attention. I see people texting all the time.

01:14:00 Speaker_02
Everyone is texting all the time. I would rather drive with drunk drivers than people texting and driving. They're always all over the road.

01:14:07 Speaker_01
All over the road. And not only that, the amount of space you cover. Well, you look down at your phone for like a couple of seconds and type in a word. The amount of space you cover if you're going 60 miles an hour is really crazy.

01:14:19 Speaker_02
Of course, and then you're also not paying attention to the other people who are texting and driving.

01:14:23 Speaker_01
Exactly.

01:14:24 Speaker_02
It really is just like chaos. Maybe I'll get home, maybe I won't.

01:14:28 Speaker_01
Why don't we all have bumper cars? Let me ask you that. Wouldn't it be better if everybody had a big rubber thing all around the outside of the car so we could just kind of bounce off of each other?

01:14:38 Speaker_02
Probably. That would be a good idea. But then you also need people to die because we're just too overpopulated. That's where fentanyl comes in. Exactly. Give everyone fentanyl.

01:14:49 Speaker_01
Um, like if you were going to fix the homeless problem and you weren't going to use fentanyl, what would you do?

01:14:56 Speaker_02
I'm giving them fentanyl because it's like a nice way to go out.

01:14:59 Speaker_01
Right.

01:14:59 Speaker_02
It's quick.

01:15:00 Speaker_01
It is.

01:15:00 Speaker_02
And you're so happy. And then you're dead.

01:15:02 Speaker_01
They have Narcan everywhere, though. They just bring people back to life.

01:15:05 Speaker_02
But the thing is, it's like I never see Narcan anywhere.

01:15:08 Speaker_01
If you weren't going to like if you like for real if you were trying if you were just objective you weren't looking at this in terms of like what's the kind thing to do and you wanted to clean up the homeless situation.

01:15:19 Speaker_02
Well, you have to spend a lot of money on mental health. You have to care about the veterans. I have a whole joke about this on my special about how we don't really care about veterans.

01:15:29 Speaker_02
And I've dated a lot of veterans that come back, and they're so screwed up. And we're not actually helping them. And a lot of them end up on the street, and they're crazy.

01:15:38 Speaker_02
But they need a lot of mental health, and you have to kind of figure out how to go back into society. Like I've dated several veterans and like, they're crazy understandably, you know?

01:15:52 Speaker_02
You can't go to war for like eight years and then come back and work at Target. It's just not a way that that happens.

01:15:57 Speaker_02
So you would have to be willing to like help veterans, you'd have to spend money on mental health, but the problem is like doing those things doesn't really yield a lot of money. So people don't want to waste their money into it.

01:16:08 Speaker_01
That's what's fucked up. Right. They do whatever they can get away with. And if they get away with like using the veterans and not paying for them to be better, they just do.

01:16:17 Speaker_02
Also everyone's like well they can go to a VA hospital. It's like I've seen how hard it is to get services from there. And that's a person that's not really crazy and messed up from war.

01:16:26 Speaker_01
Right.

01:16:26 Speaker_02
So it's like you're making it so hard for these people that go and serve the country.

01:16:30 Speaker_01
I know. I talked to J.D. Vance about this. Talked to him about psychedelics. What did he say? Well, he wasn't aware of it, honestly. And so he was interested in it.

01:16:41 Speaker_01
And hopefully, now that he's actually the vice president, I could connect him with some people that could perhaps show him some things and explain to him all the different ways that they've figured out, especially in other countries like in Mexico, to help veterans.

01:16:57 Speaker_01
Ibogaine's a big one. Ibogaine, psilocybin, ayahuasca, all these different psychedelics have shown to have remarkable effects.

01:17:05 Speaker_02
Even for depression, I think people take it. They microdose.

01:17:08 Speaker_01
Yeah. Well, not just microdose. The Ibogaine one, I've never done that, but from what I understand, it's almost like a 24-hour experience that shows you a movie of your life.

01:17:25 Speaker_02
I don't want to see that.

01:17:26 Speaker_01
It shows you. Well, it shows you apparently. And this is just me hearing what other people told me. But it explains to you why you have these problems and shows you what developed where the issue started. And by seeing that, you could figure it out.

01:17:43 Speaker_01
You go, oh, OK, well, I won't do that anymore. Now I get it. Now I get what this hole I've been trying to fill is. I don't need to fill the hole anymore.

01:17:52 Speaker_02
But that's the thing. I feel like I know what was probably wrong in my childhood. I know that, but it doesn't fix me.

01:17:58 Speaker_01
Right. It's different. It's not just knowing it. It's like seeing it at almost like a subatomic level. Like seeing the process, seeing what's going on inside of you and recognize that this is a very bad path to follow.

01:18:15 Speaker_01
not just knowing it and still doing it, not just not being able to get out of a habit, not being able to get out of a pattern of behavior, but to see the source of it, the path, where it takes you, and the right way to go.

01:18:30 Speaker_01
And to see it laid out, where you go, oh, I could just do this and just let that go and move on and be a better person, be a healthier person, be happier. And so many people that I know have done that. They've stopped drinking.

01:18:41 Speaker_01
Stop opiates, you know opioids is a big one So the big one that it helps Ibogaine does and Ibogaine is like completely non-addictive Apparently, it's a terrible experience and nobody wants to do it again Ibogaine. Yeah, you do it.

01:18:55 Speaker_01
Is it it's from the aboga tree, which is an African tree that

01:19:00 Speaker_01
It's a very bizarre, I don't know what category of psychedelic it's in, but it's not technically, it's not like psilocybin, which is mushrooms, it's not like dimethyltryptamine, which is ayahuasca, it's something completely different, some different pathway, but particularly effective, again, I've never tried it, but everybody I've talked to that has, particularly effective in curing addictions.

01:19:25 Speaker_02
Interesting, I've never heard of that.

01:19:27 Speaker_01
Yeah, I know quite a few guys. My friend Ed Clay, he actually opened up a place in Mexico because he hurt his back. He's a jiu-jitsu guy. A lot of jiu-jitsu guys fuck their backs up. Like, my back's all fucked up.

01:19:38 Speaker_01
And then they probably get hooked on opiates and shit. Yeah, you get an operation or you get a pill. You know, you need some pain pills because you literally can't tie your shoes because your fucking back is flared up.

01:19:47 Speaker_01
And the next thing you know, you're hooked. And thanks to the Sackler family, those sweeties.

01:19:52 Speaker_02
They made so much money, though.

01:19:55 Speaker_01
Those fucking monsters. We were just talking the other day about they started the Valium thing, too. They were responsible for the Valium thing in the 1970s. Same family. It's a family of demons. Sure. Just fucking monsters. And no one's in jail.

01:20:12 Speaker_02
I watched a documentary. I guess it was about the Sackler family.

01:20:14 Speaker_01
Was it a Netflix one?

01:20:16 Speaker_02
I don't know. There was a couple. There was one on, I think, Hulu, and then there was one also on Netflix.

01:20:20 Speaker_01
Yeah, there was Dope Sick. I watched Dope Sick. What was the Netflix one called, Jamie? Painkiller. Is that what it's called? That's the Peter Berg one. Peter Berg came in and explained it all to us and talked about the documentary. It's fucking great.

01:20:36 Speaker_01
It's so good because it's like, they're such demons. And just to know that people like that exist and walk amongst us. That's it. Well, listen, speaking of Netflix, Matthew Broderick fucking kills it in that too.

01:20:48 Speaker_02
Go watch my Netflix special. Yes.

01:20:50 Speaker_01
The Dark Queen. The Netflix special. Tell her. Where'd you film it? We filmed it at The Cellar. Oh, nice. Nice. That must be good for you, right? Comfortable?

01:20:58 Speaker_02
Yeah, just because I'm used to it. But I got to tell you, your club is amazing. I love it.

01:21:02 Speaker_01
Thank you.

01:21:02 Speaker_02
I would definitely film something.

01:21:03 Speaker_01
Well, we love you, too.

01:21:04 Speaker_02
Yeah, I would definitely film my next one there.

01:21:06 Speaker_01
Everyone's been trying to get you to move here.

01:21:08 Speaker_02
I'm going to be moving here. Oh shit. I'm going to come here probably like a little bit in December and then I'm going to LA to promote the Dark Queen and then I'll be here in January. Oh shit. I know. Nice. And I'll be seeing Marshall all the time.

01:21:21 Speaker_01
So the last time I talked to you about this was in the bar at Mitzi's. You, me and Bridget.

01:21:24 Speaker_02
That's right.

01:21:26 Speaker_01
Do we push over the top?

01:21:27 Speaker_02
Well Ari said the meanest thing to me.

01:21:30 Speaker_01
Want to see the text that Ari sent me?

01:21:31 Speaker_02
Sure, yeah.

01:21:32 Speaker_01
He sent me a text like Adrian's coming to Austin. Convince her to move there.

01:21:36 Speaker_02
He's telling everyone that. He goes, well, fine, just be a feature the rest of your life. I was like, all right, Ari, I get it.

01:21:42 Speaker_01
I'll find it. Fuck, there's too many. There's too many, goddamn.

01:21:52 Speaker_02
But Ari's excited for the special. He's like, I think everyone's gonna be really upset. I was like, I hope so. Listen, I want people to like it, but I also know that it's trigger topics that people are going to be upset by.

01:22:03 Speaker_01
Of course, but that's your specialty.

01:22:05 Speaker_02
I know.

01:22:07 Speaker_01
You like doing that.

01:22:08 Speaker_02
But that's the thing, I think people think I'm trying to be dark. It's just kind of who I am.

01:22:13 Speaker_01
Well, you joke around like that offstage as well.

01:22:16 Speaker_02
Right.

01:22:17 Speaker_01
Yeah.

01:22:18 Speaker_02
And I think nothing of saying it.

01:22:19 Speaker_01
Well, if you were raised by a guy who took you to a smoke-filled off-track bedding when you were a little girl, when little girls want to go to the park and hang with their friends, and instead you're around a bunch of fucking gamblers and degenerates.

01:22:31 Speaker_02
I mean, yeah, my uncle was a hell's angel. It's just my whole, everyone's crazy in my family.

01:22:36 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's the way you make fun.

01:22:40 Speaker_02
Yeah, and I had a friend in grammar school that killed himself and we all went to the funeral and then went out after and all of our sense of humor is so dark. And you're like, oh, that's also where I got it.

01:22:49 Speaker_01
Where was this?

01:22:51 Speaker_02
In the Bronx.

01:22:51 Speaker_01
The Bronx. Yeah. Well, the Bronx is that's a high sense of humor type of place because there's just so much fucked up things going on.

01:22:57 Speaker_02
Right. And everyone's like kind of poor.

01:23:00 Speaker_01
Yeah. And they have the darkest senses of humor because they've experienced the most.

01:23:04 Speaker_02
My mom also has a dark sense of humor.

01:23:06 Speaker_01
Really?

01:23:06 Speaker_02
Yeah. So, like, it's just that's kind of passed down, I think.

01:23:11 Speaker_01
Well, I think your mom probably experienced a lot of fucked up things, too, obviously. And she was married to your dad, so that helps.

01:23:17 Speaker_02
She's married to my dad.

01:23:18 Speaker_01
Cops have the most fucked up sense of humor. Joke around with cops once they get comfortable with you.

01:23:23 Speaker_02
Oh, yeah. They see the worst shit all day long. Yeah, they have the most fucked-up sense of humor so to firemen 100% Yeah, anyone that has like a high EMTs anyone has a high P. What is it PTSD? Yeah, and I did a lot of guys with PTSD.

01:23:40 Speaker_02
That's your thing and I just give them more It's a cycle of PTSD Do you meet guys after shows like how do you meet them?

01:23:50 Speaker_01
Like they kind of have to know what you do before they see you. Otherwise, they're gonna go dog Jesus Christ

01:23:56 Speaker_02
I mean, I've had people like that. I think the tour preparing for the special was hard because it was just people coming out that didn't know my sense of humor.

01:24:03 Speaker_02
And if you don't know that and you're taking a chance on me, I'm not like that person to take a chance on. Right. Or I think sometimes they're like supporting a woman and I'm like, I'm not the right woman to take a chance on and support.

01:24:14 Speaker_01
That's okay.

01:24:14 Speaker_02
You're just not gonna be happy.

01:24:18 Speaker_01
He'd be so mad at you.

01:24:20 Speaker_02
I've had people walk out. I did that military joke in Texas, and like 20 cowboys just walked out. And I wasn't even saying anything bad about the military. I'm like, we just don't care. We don't care about them.

01:24:32 Speaker_01
Some people are just dumb, and they see it as, this is my chance to make a protest. Let me just get up right now.

01:24:38 Speaker_02
But they hung in so long through the show. That one was it? Yeah, it was probably 50 minutes in.

01:24:45 Speaker_01
Did you crack jokes about Jesus at all?

01:24:47 Speaker_02
Sure.

01:24:47 Speaker_01
And they were fine with that? They didn't walk. Maybe Jesus put them to the edge of their sheet.

01:24:52 Speaker_02
It's interesting because both sides have woke things they're upset about. Oh yeah. I woke people about Ukraine, the Middle East. I was doing jokes about the Middle East and this lady was like, next.

01:25:03 Speaker_01
And you're like, no. I used to have this joke about the Second Coming project. Do you know what the Second Coming project was? No. It was a thing that they were trying to do. Remember when Dolly the Sheep, when they first cloned Dolly the Sheep? Yes.

01:25:16 Speaker_01
Well, the idea was that they would take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they would clone Jesus.

01:25:23 Speaker_02
Great, do it.

01:25:24 Speaker_01
And my joke was, well, cloning is not an exact science. Like, if you want to do it now, like, they had to do, like, 20 dollies before they got one dolly. Like, pro is real. A lot of them come out all fucked up.

01:25:34 Speaker_01
Like, what happens if you clone Jesus and he comes back with Down syndrome? And so the whole joke is about following Jesus around and he's, you know, wearing a hockey helmet and turning dog shit into cookies. So did they actually do it?

01:25:48 Speaker_01
No, they never did it. It's kind of a bullshit thing. But this lady goes, next subject! And I just kept going on with it. I was like, no.

01:25:58 Speaker_02
Religious people are so weird to me.

01:26:00 Speaker_01
It's not even a religious thing. It's just some people just, they don't want to hear wild things. They don't want to hear things you're not supposed to say. They don't hear them all day at work. That's fine.

01:26:09 Speaker_01
And they come out in a comedy club and they want to sort of apply That's fine.

01:26:14 Speaker_02
But if you're willing to believe a wild story like that, how about believe this other wild thing could happen too?

01:26:19 Speaker_01
Well, the thing is, it wasn't totally a wild story. I think it was people that were ignorant as to the science that were proposing it because they thought this would be the pathway to bring Jesus back.

01:26:32 Speaker_02
What is Jesus going to be doing anyway? Well, who knows?

01:26:35 Speaker_01
I mean, depending upon what that means, right? If that is the pathway, let's just imagine, okay, everybody is thinking, if you're really religious, you believe that one day we'll have the rapture and Jesus will return.

01:26:49 Speaker_02
Okay.

01:26:49 Speaker_01
So if God created us in his image and God instilled in us an insane sense of curiosity that has led people to create things like genetic engineering, and cloning.

01:27:03 Speaker_01
And then we have an understanding of genetic material, not where we are now, but maybe in a future sense, where you could literally get a cotton swab from a person and reproduce them. Sure. That's all they need.

01:27:15 Speaker_01
Cotton swabs all they need for 23andMe, right? You get a little swab in your mouth and they sell your data to China. I would never do that. I did it. I just wanted to know what was going on. It was all things I knew.

01:27:27 Speaker_02
What did you find out?

01:27:29 Speaker_01
Mostly Italian, some Irish, 1% Asian, 1.6% African.

01:27:35 Speaker_02
You're 1% Asian?

01:27:36 Speaker_01
1% Asian, 1.6% African, yeah. I would think the Asians probably like Genghis Khan shit. I think Genghis Khan just fucked so many people. It just got to so many people, so many different places. That's crazy. It's crazy, yeah. That guy fucked everybody.

01:27:49 Speaker_01
He had, we've talked about it before, but I always forget the number, but there's a certain percentage of people on Earth that have his DNA, and it's astounding. It's an astounding number. It's pretty cool.

01:28:01 Speaker_01
Well, he also killed 10% of the population while he was alive.

01:28:04 Speaker_02
Yeah, and that's why he was, like, repopulating them.

01:28:07 Speaker_01
Well, took a lot of slaves, sex slaves. They called them wives back in those days. It was different. But when they would conquer people, he'd just take their wives, take everybody's wife, and fuck them.

01:28:16 Speaker_02
I mean, it sounds like the thing you should do.

01:28:18 Speaker_01
That was his move.

01:28:20 Speaker_02
It's not bad.

01:28:21 Speaker_01
It's interesting that all these years later, and you know, he's not thought of as a monster. He's thought of as like a historic figure.

01:28:27 Speaker_02
Yeah.

01:28:28 Speaker_01
Because of Hitler times 100. Sure. He was fucking insane. They used to light bodies on fire and then use them as catapults. They would launch them onto roofs to burn the roofs down. That's how they would scare people, just take victims.

01:28:43 Speaker_02
What a crazy way of doing that.

01:28:47 Speaker_01
They did so many insane things.

01:28:48 Speaker_01
One of the things they did was when they would capture a city, they would take the generals and all the different people and they would create a platform and lay all these people out and then stack the platform on top of them.

01:29:02 Speaker_01
Then they would all climb on top of the platform and eat. So they would eat lunch while they were crushing these people to death slowly.

01:29:11 Speaker_02
That's crazy. Were the people dead already?

01:29:13 Speaker_01
No, no, no. They killed them that way. Yeah. I think that's how he killed royals. That was his move for killing royal people. Like, instead of just slaughtering them outright and hacking them, they would just kind of crush them.

01:29:24 Speaker_01
They had a bunch of different ways they would kill people. They would take, when they would capture people, they would use those people at the front of the line and push them towards their own army.

01:29:35 Speaker_01
So they would sack a city, capture 100,000 people, take those 100,000 people and put them at the front line and press them to go further into the city.

01:29:44 Speaker_01
And those people would just get slaughtered in front of them and they would eventually kill everybody there.

01:29:49 Speaker_02
That's crazy.

01:29:50 Speaker_01
It was so crazy that there's a guy named Dan Carlin, he's got an amazing show called Hardcore History, and he's got this one episode called The Wrath of the Khan. It's five episodes, but there's one series, and it's all about Genghis Khan.

01:30:03 Speaker_01
And one of the stories is about the Shah of charisma. The Shah is making a trek to Jin China to see what's going on over there, like, what do you guys got? Talk to the king and see what's happening in your, whoever the fuck's running your city.

01:30:18 Speaker_01
And as they're going there, the roads were so fucked up with decayed bodies that they had abandoned the roads because all their wagons were getting stuck in the mud of decaying people.

01:30:32 Speaker_01
And they looked in the distance, they thought it was a snow-covered mountain that they were looking at way in the distance. It turned out it was a pile of bodies.

01:30:39 Speaker_01
They'd killed a million people and just stacked them on top of each other in the middle of the town. They killed the entire city. They killed everyone.

01:30:48 Speaker_02
That's crazy, and there's no one to clean up the bodies.

01:30:50 Speaker_01
They just left the bodies. They didn't give a fuck. They just kept moving.

01:30:52 Speaker_02
That's wild. Imagine living back then yeah, I know you know your wheelbarrow is getting stuck in someone's head.

01:31:02 Speaker_01
I know yeah People were taking gender studies in class today Just running for their lives It's crazy.

01:31:13 Speaker_02
Yeah, I Guess that we get to do stuff. That's sometimes so dumb and like people are like just fighting to stay alive. I

01:31:20 Speaker_01
Well, it's also interesting that over time, that becomes less and less acceptable. The horrors of Gaza, when we find out about it today, everyone's outraged.

01:31:31 Speaker_01
Back then, it wouldn't be the same type of horrors, obviously, because they didn't have missiles, but horrors are just horrors.

01:31:37 Speaker_02
Sure, yeah. You're just killing people.

01:31:39 Speaker_01
Yeah. So it's way grosser today.

01:31:42 Speaker_02
Well, it's because we also have photos and everything of it, right?

01:31:46 Speaker_01
Then they saw it in real life, which is way worse.

01:31:51 Speaker_02
You had to be there to see it, right?

01:31:53 Speaker_01
Right. But if you were alive in 1200, let's imagine you and I were alive in 1200. How many people do you think we would have seen get slaughtered with swords and arrows and shit in front of us by now?

01:32:02 Speaker_02
Probably a ton.

01:32:03 Speaker_01
You become desensitized to it. It becomes a thing.

01:32:07 Speaker_02
Like when I first started watching The Walking, what is it?

01:32:10 Speaker_01
Yeah, Walking Dead.

01:32:11 Speaker_02
Walking Dead. You're like, I can't believe they just did that. And then two episodes in, you're like, oh, this is normal to me. And it's got to be kind of what it would have been like back then.

01:32:18 Speaker_02
You watch someone's head get blown off and now you're like, oh yeah, that's just like a Tuesday.

01:32:23 Speaker_01
Yeah. People get real accustomed to things. And if you're real accustomed to barbaric living and slaughtering people and lighting them on fire and launching them and catapults onto the thatched roofs of these houses and watch them burn.

01:32:36 Speaker_02
Right. You can't imagine not doing that if that's all you say.

01:32:39 Speaker_01
That's what you do.

01:32:40 Speaker_02
Yeah.

01:32:40 Speaker_01
That's what we do.

01:32:41 Speaker_02
That's just what we do.

01:32:42 Speaker_01
Yeah. They didn't wash. They wore their clothes until they rotted off of their skin.

01:32:48 Speaker_02
Yeah, I mean, I think if they're like catapulting dead bodies, it's like, who cares what you're wearing?

01:32:53 Speaker_01
Sometimes they just lived off the blood of their horses. They would just drink the horse's blood. And that's what they sustained themselves with.

01:32:59 Speaker_02
But then you just need your horse to travel.

01:33:02 Speaker_01
Yeah, a horse keeps eating. You don't kill them. You just cut a little nick in their neck.

01:33:06 Speaker_02
And you just suck a horse's blood?

01:33:08 Speaker_01
Yeah, that's what they would do. They would take it and put it in a jug and drink it.

01:33:11 Speaker_02
You really could survive if you were just somewhere by yourself. Yeah, you could. You. I don't think I could, but I think you could survive.

01:33:19 Speaker_01
I would need stuff. You need a horse. You need stuff. You need physical things like you need shelter and knives and you need something to start a fire with. You need something that you can hunt with. Sure.

01:33:31 Speaker_02
But if I had that same stuff I would be dead and you would thrive.

01:33:35 Speaker_01
I wouldn't thrive.

01:33:37 Speaker_02
You would survive.

01:33:38 Speaker_01
For a little while.

01:33:39 Speaker_02
I didn't know you could drink horses blood.

01:33:41 Speaker_01
Yeah, but you've got to keep that horse alive. The horse is going to die. The horse is eating dead people. The horses don't eat meat. They don't? No. They do occasionally eat birds.

01:33:52 Speaker_02
What if they're starving? They won't eat like a person?

01:33:55 Speaker_01
No. No, they're not even interested in rotting bodies. They're herbivores. But they do occasionally eat birds. I'm learning so much. There's this really fucked up video of this horse following this bird, or it's a cow following this bird around.

01:34:08 Speaker_01
I've seen horses do it too, where they found like a ground nesting bird and they just eat it. And the mother bird's like flying at them, pecking at them like, shut the fuck up, I'm eating your baby.

01:34:19 Speaker_02
At least she tried.

01:34:21 Speaker_01
Deer do it all the time. Deer do it. It's so bad. Like they have this net that they use to catch birds. And the deer found the birds in the net. And so the deer would just go up to the net and feast like like a grapevine. Right. Like a buffet.

01:34:36 Speaker_01
Eat all these birds. And that's when we started understanding that if a deer catches a bird slip and they just eat them.

01:34:42 Speaker_02
Yeah, why wouldn't you? Because they eat plants. Yeah, but a bird is kind of like caviar to them, probably. Probably.

01:34:49 Speaker_01
They're like, mm, delish. Yes. A little foie gras.

01:34:53 Speaker_02
Don't mind if I do.

01:34:55 Speaker_01
Yeah. Have you ever seen cows eat birds? No. Find a video of cows eating birds.

01:35:00 Speaker_02
I've only seen cows eat grass.

01:35:02 Speaker_01
They eat birds. It disturbs the shit out of people who are peaceful. They're like, you know, I think the less suffering we have, the better.

01:35:09 Speaker_02
But also a bird can fly away. It's kind of their fault.

01:35:12 Speaker_01
Well, not babies.

01:35:14 Speaker_02
Survival of the fittest. You're dead.

01:35:15 Speaker_01
You're now dead. It's probably nature's way of keeping baby birds from overwhelming us.

01:35:20 Speaker_02
Why wouldn't you put your bird nest higher? It's on the mom.

01:35:23 Speaker_01
Look at this. Look at this cow. Oh, yeah.

01:35:26 Speaker_02
He's going right into his mouth.

01:35:27 Speaker_01
Yep. Yep. Chomp, chomp, chomp. Oh, yum, yum, yum. You're dead. Isn't it so weird that they decide that they want to eat that? Just weird. It's weird that they just decide. Look at the little kid. Right.

01:35:37 Speaker_02
Why wouldn't you just eat the kid?

01:35:38 Speaker_01
Yeah. If you're gonna eat that bird. Kid comes with people. People have guns. They figure it out after a while.

01:35:43 Speaker_02
They don't know. You think so? They know the guns are coming.

01:35:45 Speaker_01
They know that people can kill them. I definitely think they know that people are in control. I don't think they feel a sense of power.

01:35:52 Speaker_02
Also, you can't eat that kid in one gulp.

01:35:54 Speaker_01
Right. People are going to know.

01:35:56 Speaker_02
Right.

01:35:56 Speaker_01
Right.

01:35:57 Speaker_02
You could just eat it in one gulp. Yeah, you could just swallow the kid.

01:35:59 Speaker_01
Who knows what happens to the kid? I don't know what happens to the kid. She says I didn't eat nothing.

01:36:03 Speaker_02
I'll help you look.

01:36:04 Speaker_01
Yeah.

01:36:07 Speaker_02
You have a shoe in your mouth.

01:36:08 Speaker_01
I'll help you look. Well, that was a legitimate concern for people hundreds of years ago. Your kid would get eaten. Sure. If it was out in the yard, wolves would. I mean, that's like the big bad wolf. That's what all that shit was. Little red riding hood.

01:36:20 Speaker_02
Imagine like your kid survives cholera and then it just gets eaten. Ugh.

01:36:23 Speaker_01
Ugh.

01:36:27 Speaker_02
I can't believe that.

01:36:28 Speaker_01
Right, like that's not even that long ago that people were dying of cholera.

01:36:31 Speaker_02
How many years do you think that was?

01:36:33 Speaker_01
Who knows? I mean, how many different fucking diseases killed people just because of poor sanitation? That's what a lot of that stuff came from. Sure. A lot of that stuff came from poor sanitation.

01:36:42 Speaker_01
I mean, just think about how many people were just dying in these cities because of the plague, because they'd throw their shit out the windows. I mean. And there'd be rats and bugs.

01:36:53 Speaker_02
Yeah. I think I would learn pretty quickly if I threw my shit out the window once that, like, that's not great.

01:36:59 Speaker_01
I think you would think that, but there's people in India that shit in the street to this day.

01:37:03 Speaker_02
I mean, I watch a video where there's a parade and they're just throwing shit. That's part of the parade.

01:37:09 Speaker_01
Is that in India?

01:37:10 Speaker_02
Yes.

01:37:11 Speaker_01
Cow dung festival or something. Yes. Oh, cow shit's a different kind of shit. It's gross, but it's not like human shit. Human shit is the nastiest shit.

01:37:18 Speaker_02
I'm sure you don't think anyone's mixing human shit in at this dung festival.

01:37:22 Speaker_01
Yeah, I bet they're not.

01:37:23 Speaker_02
I bet they're like, hey, let's spice it up.

01:37:25 Speaker_00
Yeah, I bet it's not pure dung. It's not as clean as you think, maybe.

01:37:27 Speaker_01
Oh, Jesus Christ, they're just throwing at each other. Imagine, like, this is what you sign up for and they're all smiling. I don't get the appeal. I don't know. Maybe how, like, you know, if you eat a lot of sugar, you get that candida.

01:37:43 Speaker_01
And maybe if you play with shit enough, you get that shit bacteria.

01:37:46 Speaker_02
I mean, their teeth look so white because they're covered in shit. They're just covered in shit.

01:37:51 Speaker_01
Guys, shower up. This is ridiculous. We had to deal with the infections from the cow dung. How are they not?

01:37:59 Speaker_02
What is going on here?

01:38:02 Speaker_01
We won't get any infections from the cow dung, he says. Wait, what does he say?

01:38:05 Speaker_00
What was his statement? Because of the coronavirus and other viruses.

01:38:08 Speaker_01
But back it up before that. OK, here. Heaps of cow dung are brought in one place. We all play in it. We have had to deal with the coronavirus and other viruses. So we believe we won't get any infections from the cow dung.

01:38:23 Speaker_02
I mean, you see this and then you're like, you know what? It's not that bad that we're doing unboxing videos.

01:38:28 Speaker_01
I mean, these guys are basically content creators.

01:38:33 Speaker_02
They are content creators, but they don't know that. They don't know that we're watching these videos. I mean, can you imagine just being in there and just throwing shit at someone?

01:38:43 Speaker_01
How do they not know now, though? I don't know. It seems like in this day and age.

01:38:46 Speaker_02
I don't think that's an old video either.

01:38:48 Speaker_01
Do you see when they give Amazon Tribes Starlink and they give them phones?

01:38:53 Speaker_02
You said Amazon. I just thought of Amazon, like that I order stuff from.

01:38:55 Speaker_01
Oh, yeah. Not the other one.

01:38:58 Speaker_02
I just want regular Amazon that brings, I order stuff from Amazon that's like a $3 thing and somebody's driving to my house and dropping off like, whatever it is, floss.

01:39:08 Speaker_01
They figured it out. I never buy toothbrushes from the fucking store. I just click a link, bam.

01:39:14 Speaker_02
But it's like so, I'm spending such little money for stuff that someone's driving to my house to drop it off.

01:39:20 Speaker_01
Eventually it's just gonna be drones.

01:39:23 Speaker_02
I mean, drop it off at your head.

01:39:26 Speaker_01
Drop it off at your house. And then there's people that, those are some of the grossest people, people that steal people's packages.

01:39:33 Speaker_02
especially during the holidays.

01:39:34 Speaker_01
People are stealing. You don't even know what's in there.

01:39:37 Speaker_02
But that's the fun. You get in, you're like, this could be a TV. This could be an iPhone. It could also just be toothbrushes.

01:39:44 Speaker_01
There's so many funny videos of people getting busted, you know?

01:39:47 Speaker_02
I've seen them, yeah. People just stealing videos for like Christmas.

01:39:51 Speaker_01
If you live in a neighborhood where someone steals your packages, that's such a shitty feeling. There's fucking people in your neighborhood that are clocking what's getting dropped off at your house.

01:40:00 Speaker_01
Chris Rock used to have a bit about putting, if you bought a new TV, you had to be careful putting the box out on the street in the garbage, because people know you have a new TV.

01:40:10 Speaker_02
They know you have a new TV, yeah.

01:40:11 Speaker_01
And they want to break in your house and steal your TV.

01:40:13 Speaker_02
I mean, now TVs are like worth nothing.

01:40:15 Speaker_01
They're worth nothing. TVs, I remember in 1994, when I first moved here, I got a big TV for the first time. It was fucking big. It was like this big.

01:40:25 Speaker_02
1994 was a great year.

01:40:26 Speaker_01
It was like 24 inches. But it was like, Yeah, to pick it up, like it was a giant ass TV, like it had a whole back to it. Yeah, it was humongous. And then it was one of those years, like 94, 95, they came out with a plasma TV, and it was $20,000.

01:40:41 Speaker_01
And it was like 40 inches and flat. And because it was flat, it looked like shit, it didn't even look good. because it was 40 inches and flat, it was like $20,000. I remember thinking, that is the dumbest thing.

01:40:54 Speaker_01
I'm paying $20,000 for this space behind the TV. I don't give a fuck if there's space behind the TV. There's like six feet between the TV and the wall. What do I give a fuck? There's an extra 12 inches of TV behind it? What are you, stupid?

01:41:08 Speaker_01
You're gonna pay $20,000 because it's flat?

01:41:12 Speaker_02
I guess people want to hang it on the wall.

01:41:14 Speaker_01
It was a thing to let people know you had it. You had money. Yeah. You had a plasma TV. Right. See if you can find a plasma TV from 1995-ish. They looked like shit. I think it must have been 96 because that was when I first bought a house.

01:41:28 Speaker_01
They looked like shit. And they were $20,000. I was like, this is crazy. They were so heavy, those big TVs. Oh, giant. Might not have been 20 grand. I might be exaggerating. But it had to be like eight or nine. And this was like, again, 95-ish.

01:41:42 Speaker_01
How much did they cost back then?

01:41:44 Speaker_02
I remember that TV right there, the silver one, where it comes with its own stand, kind of.

01:41:49 Speaker_01
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that one.

01:41:50 Speaker_02
That's where you go over to the person's house. That person has the Super Bowl party.

01:41:56 Speaker_01
Yeah, you got to have friends help you carry that in. So it was Fujitsu in 95. Fujitsu introduced the first 42-inch, and it was how much money? Price. Right there.

01:42:11 Speaker_01
Sample price for the 42-inch was 1 million yen, but Fujitsu aimed to sell it for about 500,000 yen per unit. What is that in dollars? What's 1 million yen in dollars? It's like 15,000. 6,000, so 6,500 bucks.

01:42:31 Speaker_02
That's still a lot of money.

01:42:32 Speaker_01
Still a lot of money. So it wasn't 20 grand, I exaggerate.

01:42:34 Speaker_02
That's a lot of money still.

01:42:35 Speaker_01
But it was just, the regular TV was like 100. Like, what? How much is a regular TV? It wasn't that much money. But if you had that, you were the man. Like, oh, Bobby must be doing really well in Hollywood. Look at this.

01:42:48 Speaker_02
He has a flat screen television.

01:42:50 Speaker_01
Oh, 10 grand. By the year 2000, prices had dropped to 10 grand. Oh, prices had dropped to 10 grand. So maybe it was 20,000. So what'd they start at? Mm, interesting. See if it says up there. Oh, 14,000. OK, one of the first plasma TVs.

01:43:06 Speaker_01
I think it was a Philips that I saw. It was available at four Sears locations in the US for $15,000.

01:43:13 Speaker_02
Is there a Sears anymore?

01:43:15 Speaker_01
I don't know. I haven't seen a Sears forever.

01:43:17 Speaker_02
I remember when I was a kid, I got a Sears credit card, and I just bought my ex-boyfriend at the time rims for his car. That's what you just spend your money on.

01:43:25 Speaker_01
I don't even. Sears is almost like the the Bernstein Bears effect like the fact that you said Sears. I was like, oh, that's a thing But how could that not be a thing like Sears was huge Do they have any look there's no locations though.

01:43:46 Speaker_02
Oh

01:43:47 Speaker_00
I mean, it's giving me a store locator, but it's not showing me a map.

01:43:50 Speaker_01
But that's a weird one, like Sears. That had left my memory. Until this, and then you saying it. Even though I said Sears, available at Sears.

01:43:59 Speaker_03
It didn't hit your head.

01:44:00 Speaker_01
Then you started going, Sears, oh, I remember Sears. And then I was like, I remember Sears, too. Do you remember when Nobody Beats the Wiz? Do you remember that store? Yes, yes. Do you remember Crazy Eddie's? Yes. Crazy Eddie was actually crazy. Yeah.

01:44:13 Speaker_01
Turns out. There's nine left. Oh, wow. One in Puerto Rico, eight on the mainland. Interesting. We should take a road trip just to go to a Sears.

01:44:23 Speaker_02
We should go to one in Puerto Rico.

01:44:25 Speaker_01
We should bring Tony.

01:44:26 Speaker_02
Let's bring Tony. That'd be amazing. First of all, Puerto Ricans were not upset by it. I mean, I'm sure some were, but like, my friends were like, I'm still voting for Trump.

01:44:36 Speaker_01
Puerto Ricans can take a joke. They are some of the best shit talkers on earth. Absolutely. It's common in Puerto Rican communities just have fun and joke. Absolutely. It's not a super sensitive neighborhood or super sensitive ethnic group.

01:44:51 Speaker_02
No, but most people didn't care. They're like, I don't care.

01:44:54 Speaker_01
It was a stupid ding to do it there, but it turned him into a legend. How long has Trump won? If Trump didn't win, we were going to have to hide him.

01:45:02 Speaker_02
For real?

01:45:03 Speaker_01
Yeah, I was going to hide him. I was going to move him to Thailand or something.

01:45:06 Speaker_02
To Thailand?

01:45:06 Speaker_01
Yeah, he's got to get out of the United States for a while.

01:45:08 Speaker_02
For how long, though?

01:45:09 Speaker_01
While depending on how bad sideways things go if Kamala Harris becomes president a deep state takeover And they completely censor all social media remove everybody's guns force vaccinations on all your babies Everybody gets a sex change who knows just in Thailand and he's in Thailand with ladyboys Just drinking his life away because you can't believe you fucked it up for one shitty laugh Puerto Rico

01:45:33 Speaker_01
You know, there were stories that were ready to be published if Trump lost, blaming it on Tony.

01:45:39 Speaker_02
That's crazy.

01:45:40 Speaker_01
Yeah. Yeah. Blaming it on that one joke in Madison Square Garden where the facts is, and Tony will tell you, actually, Puerto Ricans voted 26 percent more for Trump, which is true.

01:45:51 Speaker_02
They probably did.

01:45:52 Speaker_01
Than ever before. Yeah. Well, people were fucking fed up. People were fed up. I didn't even vote. None of this makes any sense.

01:46:00 Speaker_02
I mean I think honestly most people right now their main concern is like they can't even afford groceries.

01:46:06 Speaker_01
Exactly.

01:46:06 Speaker_02
So they're like whoever I think is going to help me with that. Well listen I don't know what is true or not true but like people who are like I can't afford to feed my kids.

01:46:13 Speaker_01
It is so crazy. I was watching this guy on MSNBC and he was dismissing that in terms of like when people think a certain way like people have like a particular if they're a leftist or if they're a fundamentalist Christian.

01:46:28 Speaker_01
they have one thing in common, and that thing that they have in common is they want everyone to think like them.

01:46:35 Speaker_01
And this guy was saying that about young people listening to podcasts, and they're getting air quotes, radicalized, and that we need something that can do this from a feminist perspective, and teach young men feminism.

01:46:51 Speaker_01
The whole thing was so strange, but one of the things that he said that was the most strange

01:46:55 Speaker_01
He said, instead of these minor grievances like the price of eggs or someone is teaching your kids something in history that you don't agree with, instead of those minor things, what's major then, man? Food for kids, food for your family.

01:47:12 Speaker_02
History is just history.

01:47:13 Speaker_01
And history, well, he said something you don't agree with. I don't know what that means. But education is primary. It's one of the most important things for kids. For their view of the world, they have to be correctly informed.

01:47:27 Speaker_01
It really helps if you have a good education. And then if you have food, if you can afford eggs, that really fucking helps. And so this idea that these are minor issues, and the important issue is connecting men to feminism.

01:47:41 Speaker_02
Listen, you can do that if you want, but most people right now are like, I can't afford to pay for groceries for my kids. I don't even have kids, but people are like, I can't afford to buy groceries.

01:47:49 Speaker_02
People who are making more money now are like, I can't save any money.

01:47:52 Speaker_01
Yes, everything's more expensive. People are fucking out of touch. I'm clearly out of touch. Clearly. But I remember when I was poor. I understand it. I really do. And I know what the fuck is going on.

01:48:04 Speaker_01
And I know people are saying, hey, this isn't a minor deal. This is like one of the biggest deals. You guys fucked up the economy and you're gaslighting everybody and telling everybody you didn't.

01:48:14 Speaker_01
You guys have spent billions of dollars on a war that nobody agrees with, hundreds of billions, and you're gaslighting us.

01:48:21 Speaker_02
Yeah, I just also like these teachers that are just like spending all their own money for supplies. It's like, what are you doing? Crazy. Why do teachers not have supplies for kids? And you're right. They are the future generation.

01:48:33 Speaker_02
So if they don't have food and they don't have, they're not like being instructed in, you know, learning stuff and you have these schools where there's so many kids to one teacher.

01:48:40 Speaker_01
The United States is like someone who owes you money and they say they don't have it and they keep buying cars. That's what it's like.

01:48:46 Speaker_01
It's like, how did you have the money to spend all this money on another country when you don't have any money to spend on the education of kids?

01:48:54 Speaker_02
I mean, homelessness, the veterans. Let's just pick education.

01:48:59 Speaker_01
How much could they fix education with $175 billion?

01:49:03 Speaker_02
You shouldn't have a teacher that needs to buy supplies.

01:49:06 Speaker_01
And imagine this, imagine if companies were incentivized, like what if they got government grants based on how well the kids performed in the school districts. That would be great. Yeah, like literally make it like Halliburton for schools.

01:49:19 Speaker_01
Like you know Halliburton, they blew up Iraq, Halliburton comes in and cleans everything up.

01:49:23 Speaker_01
Have something that profits off these places getting better, and the better they do in terms of dropping in crime, education rates, graduation rates, college rates, everybody gets more money. Figure that out.

01:49:36 Speaker_02
I mean, they just want more money for prisons.

01:49:38 Speaker_01
They do that, too. That's true.

01:49:39 Speaker_02
If you don't spend it on education, then you could just have these people have to turn to crime and put them in prisons, and that's how you'll get money.

01:49:45 Speaker_01
There's a bunch of things they did in the 80s that still fuck with us today, and that's one of them. That's a big one.

01:49:51 Speaker_01
then the 80s must have been so wild because there's no computers and it's just like TV and the newspaper and everyone's running wild and Reagan's the president. So nobody thinks anything's real. He got a fucking movie star as the president. JFK's dead.

01:50:08 Speaker_01
Nobody still understands that one.

01:50:09 Speaker_02
Wasn't Reagan's, was Reagan's wife the one that was called the throwcoat?

01:50:13 Speaker_01
Allegedly. Yes.

01:50:16 Speaker_02
Give her her flowers.

01:50:16 Speaker_01
I think she is the throne queen. Well, I mean, you could bestow that upon someone to besmirch their memory. You could do that. It's hard to say.

01:50:24 Speaker_02
Is that necessarily a bad thing?

01:50:26 Speaker_01
But also the kind of gal that can capture up a president probably knows how to get things done.

01:50:30 Speaker_02
Yeah.

01:50:31 Speaker_01
Yeah, I would imagine.

01:50:31 Speaker_02
That's not necessarily a bad thing. Good for her.

01:50:33 Speaker_01
I think it's a good thing. Yeah. It's a, I mean, every guy would agree.

01:50:37 Speaker_02
Sure.

01:50:37 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's a good skill for a lady to have. Then there's the problem of how'd you learn that? Unless you're a savant, first dick you suck, you're just like, wow.

01:50:47 Speaker_02
Somebody had to just figure that out.

01:50:50 Speaker_01
There probably was glasses back in the Roman days.

01:50:52 Speaker_02
You think so? Oh, yeah.

01:50:53 Speaker_01
Probably guys showing each other how to suck each other off. Everybody was blowing everybody back then.

01:50:57 Speaker_02
They're just, you know, throwing bodies on fire, and then also there's throat goat glasses.

01:51:02 Speaker_01
Imagine what their balls smelled like back then.

01:51:04 Speaker_02
Disgusting. I can't even imagine that.

01:51:05 Speaker_01
Jesus Christ.

01:51:06 Speaker_02
You'd probably put shit on their balls so you couldn't smell what their actual balls smelled like. You're like, I'd rather smell straight shit than listen to that. So gross. That has to be the worst mouth.

01:51:18 Speaker_01
Did you ever see how they wiped their asses?

01:51:20 Speaker_02
Where, in the Roman times?

01:51:21 Speaker_01
Yeah, they would take a sponge that was on a stick, it was a communal sponge.

01:51:25 Speaker_02
A communal sponge, why did I just see this on like Instagram or something? Yeah, it's like just, I think I'm all set.

01:51:32 Speaker_01
I went to Pompeii, and I took my family there a few years ago. It's really interesting, because these people died like instantaneously, and then they've sort of uncovered a lot of it.

01:51:42 Speaker_01
And one of the things that they uncovered was like this communal like shithouse. So it's just like these holes around this, like a horseshoe pattern. Yeah, like that. So these holes, these dudes just sit there and just shat into the ground.

01:51:57 Speaker_02
So it's like kind of a toilet kind of idea?

01:52:00 Speaker_01
Kind of, but I mean, I don't think there's any water. And there's the sponge. That's the sponge. Look at the word they had a name for it. Xylospongium.

01:52:10 Speaker_02
How often did they change the sponge?

01:52:14 Speaker_01
They couldn't change it enough. Even if you had your own sponge.

01:52:17 Speaker_02
It's not enough, but like a month?

01:52:19 Speaker_01
You're dunking it into that fucking... Okay, hold on a second. Academics disagree to its exact use, about which the primary sources are vague.

01:52:27 Speaker_01
It has traditionally been assumed that a type of shared anal hygiene utensil used to wipe after defecating, and the sponge is cleaned in vinegar or water, sometimes salt water. Other recent research suggests it was most likely a toilet brush.

01:52:43 Speaker_02
Yeah, I mean, probably cleaning a toilet and also your asshole.

01:52:45 Speaker_01
Yeah, maybe it was all those things. Middle of the first century Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger reported that a Germanic gladiator died by suicide with a sponge on a stick.

01:52:57 Speaker_01
According to Seneca, the gladiator hid himself in the latrine of an amphitheater and pushed the wooden stick deep into his throat. Yo. Did he take that sponge off first? No, he wanted to die that way. He wanted to suffocate himself.

01:53:14 Speaker_01
That's how much he didn't want to fight in the gladiator wars.

01:53:17 Speaker_00
I see also shit stick.

01:53:19 Speaker_01
Means a thin stake or stick used instead of toilet paper for anal hygiene and was a historical item of material culture introduced through Chinese Buddhism and Japanese Buddhism. A well known example is, I'm not even going to try to say that word.

01:53:34 Speaker_01
Where'd it go? Oh. Well example dry shit stick from the Chen Zen I'm not gonna say that word in which a monk a monk asked. What is Buddha and master?

01:53:49 Speaker_01
Yun men on Mon answered a dry shit stick Buddha is a dry shit stick because everybody got a shit stick that had Everybody else's shit already on it and you just smear an extra shit on your butt It's like I'll just have my own shit

01:54:03 Speaker_01
Yeah, you're dunking it in the water, but how clean does it really get? And then it's just soaked in shit water and you're taking that and you're wiping your own asshole with it.

01:54:10 Speaker_02
I am glad I was not born during that time.

01:54:14 Speaker_01
What do you think people in the future are going to be saying about this time, though? What are they going to be most shocked that we did that was so stupid? I don't know. Because if we're looking back at Pompeii, what was Pompeii?

01:54:26 Speaker_01
What year did that go down?

01:54:31 Speaker_01
67 AD It's pretty wild when you're there It's it's weird because you get to see some of the bodies they preserved that are just completely frozen in place like the ash Overwhelmed them and they're just like like a almost like a little stone statue 79 AD you show me some of the photos of the Pompeii victims So there's like people that are like just piled on top of each other like that's it like right there

01:54:59 Speaker_01
They just were overwhelmed by ash, just volcanic ash, the volcano, the heat and the gases just killed everybody like almost instantly, just completely overran the town. It's pretty insane. Because it's just weird that people don't know that.

01:55:23 Speaker_01
Like when they're building these cities, they don't know that that can happen.

01:55:27 Speaker_02
I mean, I wouldn't know that that can happen.

01:55:29 Speaker_01
No, no one knew back then. But I mean, we know now. Look, look at that. That's so crazy. That's what it looks like. I mean, that's a human being that was just literally turned into a statue in place.

01:55:44 Speaker_01
There was one where these two guys were embracing, and someone tried to say that it was, perhaps they were lovers. And someone on Twitter was a very funny comment.

01:55:53 Speaker_01
They're like, Jesus Christ, imagine dying in front of your friend, then everybody finds it like, oh, I knew he was gay.

01:55:57 Speaker_02
Imagine like jerking off.

01:55:59 Speaker_01
Right, you die in the middle of it.

01:56:01 Speaker_02
You have your hand on your balls. And you're just fucking now frozen in time like that?

01:56:05 Speaker_01
Forever. At least nobody knows who you are.

01:56:07 Speaker_02
That's true.

01:56:08 Speaker_01
Yeah, those are the guys.

01:56:09 Speaker_02
I don't know, those people, yeah. That looks, that's on the way down.

01:56:13 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's a fucked up way to go. Instantaneously.

01:56:17 Speaker_02
Some people are like, that's Bob and Tom.

01:56:19 Speaker_01
And when I was a kid, Mount St. Helens blew up. What year was that, Jamie? I don't know. Mount St. Helens was in the Pacific Northwest, and it was a big deal. Because it was an actual real volcano that killed people in the United States.

01:56:33 Speaker_01
And we were like, whoa. Like, what? I thought volcanoes were like in other countries. So I was not even in high school. Yeah. That was a crazy one. How many people died from Mount St. Helens? Fifty-seven. Yeah.

01:56:51 Speaker_01
They knew it was an active volcano, but they didn't- And they still went? It's like people live on the side of active volcanoes. In Hawaii, there's a bunch of people that live on the side of an active volcano.

01:57:03 Speaker_02
When I was in Hawaii, I think there was one of the volcanoes did go off.

01:57:07 Speaker_01
Yeah. It happened when I was there, too. At the Big Island. The Big Island is very active. There's crazy film of lava overcoming this Mustang. Have you ever seen it? No.

01:57:19 Speaker_01
There's a Mustang parked in front of the street and the lava is coming from this eruption and it just slowly consumes the street and eats this car right in front of this dude's house.

01:57:29 Speaker_01
Like these people have been living there, chilling their whole life, coming home from school.

01:57:33 Speaker_02
Hi mom, I'm home. Does your insurance cover that?

01:57:36 Speaker_01
Probably not. They try to cover as little as possible. If you live on the side of an active volcano like.

01:57:41 Speaker_02
It's like hey I'm going to get volcano insurance.

01:57:43 Speaker_01
That's that's up to you player.

01:57:46 Speaker_02
But I want I want to have my expensive car.

01:57:48 Speaker_01
Yeah I had a friend who he had some crazy situation. I think he had like.

01:57:56 Speaker_01
Flood insurance, but he didn't have damage from water from a hurricane insurance So like your roof can get destroyed from a hurricane and you don't have insurance for that But you have insurance if like your pipes break like he got fucked in some sort of a weird loophole

01:58:14 Speaker_02
What's weird too with stuff like that, anytime it's like an adjuster, if you get the right adjuster, they can do whatever you want. But you have to get an adjuster who's gonna do it.

01:58:23 Speaker_02
I used to call and do appeals for health insurance stuff, and if you kind of sweet talk someone, they might just put it through for you. You have to just keep calling back until you get an adjuster that's gonna give you what you want.

01:58:37 Speaker_01
Or you have to charm them in person.

01:58:38 Speaker_02
Yes.

01:58:39 Speaker_01
Yeah.

01:58:40 Speaker_02
That's because they're just regular people.

01:58:42 Speaker_01
Right. And they could decide.

01:58:44 Speaker_02
Absolutely. They hold so much power sometimes.

01:58:47 Speaker_01
That's a crazy power to have.

01:58:48 Speaker_02
Right.

01:58:49 Speaker_01
You can get your house fixed.

01:58:50 Speaker_02
Right. Or like your car's totaled and we're going to pay for it or we're not.

01:58:54 Speaker_01
Yeah. Or you're going to have a shaky ass car for the rest of your life as you take it on the highway. You ever had a car that's fixed that really probably shouldn't have been fixed.

01:59:04 Speaker_02
I mean my first car I had was like a Ford Tempo and I remember the steering wheel like came off in my lap as I was driving it and I was just like picked it up and just kept driving.

01:59:16 Speaker_01
You put it back on.

01:59:17 Speaker_02
Oh I should not have been driving that car.

01:59:19 Speaker_01
Oh my God. When you're a kid and you buy shit boxes like the chances of those things just completely falling apart as you're driving are so high.

01:59:28 Speaker_02
My dad also would just wanna paint a car, so he would just start painting a car and prime it, like half of it, and then he would give up. So we'd have a two-colored car as a child. It's so embarrassing.

01:59:41 Speaker_01
Yeah, if you have a poor car, that's not good. Oh yeah, we had poor cars.

01:59:44 Speaker_02
Yeah, poor cars are not good.

01:59:44 Speaker_01
All the time.

01:59:45 Speaker_02
And then my mom got into a car accident and then we got a car with that money.

01:59:49 Speaker_01
Oh.

01:59:49 Speaker_02
The Ford Tempo was like five grand. It had bright red pleather inside. Bright red platter. I remember, yeah, I was driving with that car, me and my friends on the highway, and I'm like, oh, the steering wheel just came down, but it's still connected.

02:00:02 Speaker_02
It's like, just pick it up and, like, make the turn.

02:00:05 Speaker_01
Oh, so, like, the thing that adjusts the steering wheel dropped off?

02:00:08 Speaker_02
I don't know. It just, like, fell in my lap when I was driving, and I just picked it up and, like, still drove it.

02:00:14 Speaker_01
Jesus Christ. There's a lot of those cars out there. That's why we need inspections, Adrian. It's very important.

02:00:21 Speaker_02
My dad, though, knew a guy who would just keep passing that car.

02:00:24 Speaker_01
Yeah. Those guys are a problem.

02:00:26 Speaker_02
Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's a person that's not an adjuster, but if you know them, they'll do it for you.

02:00:32 Speaker_01
Yeah, my friend was telling me about that for muscle cars in Los Angeles, that there's a place you can go in the hood, and this guy will completely pass any car. I was like, that sounds like an FBI sting.

02:00:43 Speaker_02
Yeah, but there's so many things like that.

02:00:45 Speaker_01
Yeah. Well especially in New York.

02:00:47 Speaker_02
Yeah. I mean yeah.

02:00:49 Speaker_01
New York is all about knowing a guy.

02:00:51 Speaker_02
All about knowing a guy. It's all about like what you can get away with.

02:00:54 Speaker_01
Yeah.

02:00:55 Speaker_02
New York City is disgusting and I've lived there my whole life. I hate it but I can't imagine like living anywhere permanently for the rest of my life.

02:01:02 Speaker_01
What do you think is going to be the hardest adjustment about moving here.

02:01:08 Speaker_02
I don't know. I'm not sure. I mean, I can't live here during the summer. I can't do it like flying roaches, whatever those things are. I just can't. I'm out.

02:01:21 Speaker_01
Jamie, do you experience a lot of flying roaches?

02:01:24 Speaker_02
I just see them out. It was like 105 degrees here when I came last June with Ari, and it was just like, we were in his house. He got a really nice Airbnb.

02:01:32 Speaker_00
He probably brought them with him. There were a lot of crickets this year, but I don't think that's different.

02:01:37 Speaker_02
I mean, I was in the room, in the bathroom, and there was one like this big.

02:01:41 Speaker_01
A roach.

02:01:42 Speaker_02
Maybe they're cicadas, whatever they're called.

02:01:44 Speaker_01
Oh yeah, cicadas are very different than roaches.

02:01:46 Speaker_02
They look like roaches.

02:01:47 Speaker_01
People eat them.

02:01:48 Speaker_02
Sure, people eat people. It doesn't make it cool or right, but you can eat whatever you want.

02:01:55 Speaker_01
No, but it's like a delicacy. People enjoy it. Sure. I know a guy who does it. God bless. That's not for me. My friend Ryan Callahan, he had a recipe of how to cook cicadas.

02:02:06 Speaker_02
Don't they look like big roaches though?

02:02:08 Speaker_01
Yeah, like a bug.

02:02:10 Speaker_02
Anyway, I go to get Ari to kill it, and he's like, oh, it just flew. And I'm like, what? That is like a new fear unlocked. It flew?

02:02:18 Speaker_01
It probably was a cicada. It probably wasn't a roach.

02:02:21 Speaker_02
Maybe. It might not have been a roach, but like, I forgot it.

02:02:24 Speaker_01
That's what a cicada looks like.

02:02:26 Speaker_02
I can't.

02:02:26 Speaker_01
Fucking cool. They're fucking cool. See if you find cicada recipes. See if you can find Ryan Callahan's cicada recipe. My friend Ryan, he would cook them with teriyaki sauce and bake them.

02:02:39 Speaker_01
Yeah, apparently, look, I've gone to Mexico before, and at certain resorts in Mexico, they'll serve you like fried crickets.

02:02:45 Speaker_02
Sure. Have you seen that? I've heard about it.

02:02:48 Speaker_01
Yeah. Fried crickets or grasshoppers, I forget which one. But they're good. They taste good.

02:02:53 Speaker_02
They're probably crunchy.

02:02:53 Speaker_01
Yeah, crunchy, and it was kind of salty. It's pretty good. It's actually not bad for you, like legitimately.

02:02:59 Speaker_02
It's protein, right?

02:03:00 Speaker_01
Yeah. It's the same kind of animal protein that you get from a lot of different things. But protein from cicadas is apparently particularly good.

02:03:09 Speaker_02
It's like they're because they're big I guess probably a lot of protein those little fuckers I mean, I just remember being out like outside on like a bar here, and they were just That's all it is for you is the bugs The heat's not great.

02:03:21 Speaker_01
You can handle the heat

02:03:22 Speaker_02
I can handle the heat over those bugs. Just stay away from the bugs.

02:03:26 Speaker_01
I don't run into them. Why can't they fly? Adrian, I'm telling you, you're hanging out in the wrong spots. I'll show you where to go with the bugs.

02:03:31 Speaker_02
Sure, maybe I'm in the poor places, but their bugs are just, I can't deal with the flying.

02:03:35 Speaker_01
Just don't go where the bugs are. It's not that big of a deal. Mosquitoes are a pain in the ass sometimes.

02:03:40 Speaker_02
I don't care about that. I mean, yeah, it's not great, but those big things, I can't.

02:03:44 Speaker_01
Like Lady Bird Lake, if you go around there, there's gonna be a lot of mosquitoes. They're all over the fucking place. But that's also what the bats keep in check. Have you seen the bat emergence before?

02:03:54 Speaker_02
No.

02:03:54 Speaker_01
Oh, it's fucking cool as shit.

02:03:55 Speaker_02
Bats are actually pretty cute.

02:03:57 Speaker_01
Well, there's the bridge, right? The South Congress Bridge. And if you go by the South Congress Bridge, there's people every night that are waiting for the bats to leave. Because millions of bats leave.

02:04:09 Speaker_01
So as billions of critters have emerged for seven years, so is this Ryan? Okay, so you're showing, so you peel off the skin of these little fuckers.

02:04:18 Speaker_02
What is this guy doing?

02:04:19 Speaker_01
That's not Ryan Callion. I don't know who that guy is.

02:04:21 Speaker_00
I could find a video of him doing it then.

02:04:22 Speaker_01
Okay, but so this guy's just showing how you cook cicadas. So he's basically taking away the outside area and he made a cicada taco for this kid and this lady and they're eating it with a, hmm. She said she's freaking out, whatever.

02:04:40 Speaker_01
She said it's not bad. What was I just talking about before that though? We're moving on to something else.

02:04:46 Speaker_02
Oh, what I'll miss about being here as opposed to New York?

02:04:50 Speaker_01
Yeah, we talked about, oh, the bats. That's what we were talking about. The bats eating mosquitoes. Yeah, show the bats emerging from the South Congress Bridge. It's really crazy. I've only done it once, where I went out there and watched it happen.

02:05:03 Speaker_01
I would like to see it. It's like a million bats. It's like the sky fills with bats, and they kill all the fucking mosquitoes. They're deathly mosquitoes.

02:05:09 Speaker_02
Why are they not eating the squatters also? That's pretty cool though.

02:05:12 Speaker_01
I've never seen the photos of it. It's pretty badass. I've seen it live like that. And if you go under that bridge, you hear them. You hear little flying rats clinging to the roof.

02:05:24 Speaker_02
What else do they eat? They can't eat just mosquitoes.

02:05:25 Speaker_01
Mosquitoes. That's it? They're mosquito killers. They keep the mosquitoes in check. They probably eat a bunch of bugs. I'm sure they don't only dine on mosquitoes, but they're a significant factor in keeping the mosquito population down, allegedly.

02:05:37 Speaker_01
That's what I read. Let's find out if that's true. I think it's true, though. I think it's true. I think that's one of the main things that they help with.

02:05:44 Speaker_02
My friend, he lives in, I guess, the country, and he's trying to put up those places where bats will come to eat the mosquitoes. I guess you put up those little bat houses or whatever.

02:05:53 Speaker_02
You put pheromones in them, I guess, and he can't get them to come there, because he has a lot of mosquitoes, because he lives by a lake.

02:06:00 Speaker_01
Yeah, I bet bats, it's hard to get them to move in new areas, you know? Because I bet wherever bats live, if they live by a lake, there's probably plenty of bugs.

02:06:08 Speaker_01
Like, why would they take a risk to go somewhere where they're not sure if resources exist?

02:06:13 Speaker_02
I mean, they could just fly.

02:06:14 Speaker_01
Right, but they live under this bridge, and they've been on this bridge forever.

02:06:17 Speaker_02
Well, yeah, I don't think he's going to get these bats.

02:06:19 Speaker_01
But you know what I'm saying? Like, when bats find a spot that works, they're not migratory.

02:06:23 Speaker_02
Right. They're just going to stay there.

02:06:25 Speaker_01
Yeah, they're just going to stay there. So to get them to go to a new spot, he's probably going to have to bring bats. We actually had a bat expert on the podcast.

02:06:33 Speaker_02
Do you know what I need? I need an expert for pantry moths.

02:06:37 Speaker_01
We'll try to find you one.

02:06:38 Speaker_02
I mean, I have pantry moths for the last three months, and I can't get rid of them.

02:06:42 Speaker_01
They do migrate. Where they go they migrate seasonally flying south for the winter and they're returning north in the spring Interesting.

02:06:50 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's how I heard about it because there's a bunch more in houston, right?

02:06:53 Speaker_01
So they probably because houston doesn't get as cold probably but they probably have like an established range is what my point is It's like bringing them to a new range like to your friend's place.

02:07:03 Speaker_01
It's gonna be difficult because there's not a history of them being there But I wonder if what was that dude's name?

02:07:09 Speaker_01
What does it say it says they eat between 10,000 and 30,000 pounds of insects including mosquitoes and Every night on their nightly flights and harmful agricultural pests they got so Austin's bats.

02:07:22 Speaker_01
Oh, they're fucking huge They really they come in handy but fuck what was I Asking about other than that

02:07:30 Speaker_00
Merlin Tuttle.

02:07:31 Speaker_01
Yes, that's his name. Merlin Tuttle. So he is a bat expert. And he lives in Austin as well. Fascinating dude. He's been studying bats his whole life. He's a scientist.

02:07:41 Speaker_02
Is there still new stuff to find out about bats?

02:07:44 Speaker_01
Sure. Yeah. I mean, bats carry a lot of weird diseases. That's one thing, you know? That makes sense. Because they're eating mosquitoes. And there's some crossover diseases.

02:07:53 Speaker_01
The coronavirus essentially was a bat disease that they took and fucked with and made it vulnerable for humans. So they've done a lot of work with like bats and diseases.

02:08:04 Speaker_01
One of the craziest stories though, there's these two doctors or two scientists rather and they were in Africa and they decided to set up

02:08:14 Speaker_01
photography to film these bats as they were flying out of the cave, because there's a certain cave in Africa that has like some fucking insane number of bats. It's just filled with them. And when these bats flew out, they shit.

02:08:31 Speaker_01
So these guys are on the ground in front of the bat cave filming, and they didn't take into account they're gonna be covered in bat shit. Just millions and millions of bats shitting in their face. And they died.

02:08:48 Speaker_01
They died of some crazy hemorrhagic virus that just raged through their system. If you imagine you are a human being and you're essentially intravenously taking in bat shit into your system. It's going in your eyeballs, it's going in your mouth.

02:09:08 Speaker_01
It's going through the blood brain barrier, the bat shit's getting into your blood and it's circulating through your whole body and you just develop a horrible hemorrhagic virus.

02:09:20 Speaker_02
So you can't play in that shit like you can play in cow shit?

02:09:24 Speaker_01
No, I don't think so. I think bats eat a lot of living organisms, unlike cows. He's turning these crocodiles orange. Bat poop has turned these African cave crocodiles orange.

02:09:34 Speaker_02
I mean, that orange crocodile looks pretty cool.

02:09:36 Speaker_01
That's a pretty dope-looking crocodile.

02:09:37 Speaker_02
I'd like a pair of boots.

02:09:39 Speaker_01
Yeah, no shit, right? Like, natural? Nice. Natural orange crocodile from bat poop. You know, the bat guano is a very potent fertilizer, right? Because bat guano has like, it's, I think it has high levels of nitrogen.

02:09:55 Speaker_01
I think that comes from them eating all the insects. So that like, there used to be wars over bat shit. And that's where the term bat shit crazy comes from. I did not know that.

02:10:08 Speaker_01
Guano was like a very expensive commodity because people needed it to grow crops. So if you could get- That's crazy. Yeah, bat guano is apparently a very potent fertilizer.

02:10:21 Speaker_00
They have a 4,300 year old poop core in a Jamaican cave that they've been studying. What? 5,000 different species of bats have been shitting on for... Jesus Christ!

02:10:33 Speaker_01
Oh my God. Depositive in... Wow! Sequential layers by generations of bats for over 4,300 years and it's two meters tall. That is so crazy.

02:10:45 Speaker_01
Largely undisturbed and holds information about changes in climate and how the bats' food sources shifted over the millennia. Wow!

02:10:55 Speaker_02
Imagine going to Jamaica for spring break and that's where you go.

02:10:58 Speaker_01
That is so crazy. That's so nuts. I'm trying to find a picture of it but I don't see it. You know what I'm really fascinated with is things that existed like only in myth but that every culture has like dragons. Like I had this guy Forrest Gallant.

02:11:19 Speaker_01
He's a wildlife biologist and he thinks that there's a real possibility that dragons were an actual thing and that when they have led like when dinosaurs were around. No, no, they lived alongside humans.

02:11:30 Speaker_01
That's why there's all these records and all these different cultures. And, you know, there's Chinese culture has dragons. Japanese culture has dragons. Ancient Europeans have dragons. Like, dragon is not fire breathing. That seems to be bullshit.

02:11:47 Speaker_01
But maybe even... What kind of, like, what would their purpose be? Well, they're probably like a crocodile that flies. There was probably, like, more than one kind of really dangerous reptile that they called dragons. Like Komodo dragons.

02:12:02 Speaker_03
Right, Komodo dragons.

02:12:03 Speaker_01
Giant lizard, they call it a dragon, right? Crocodiles, dragons. The question is whether or not one of them actually flew. Because we know that pterodactyls were a real thing. And if pterodactyls— I mean, they probably were real then. Nah.

02:12:16 Speaker_01
I think it's probably something like that. You know, some kind of, like, enormous bird-type creature.

02:12:22 Speaker_02
I only want a dragon if it's going to just have fire come out of its mouth.

02:12:26 Speaker_01
All the time.

02:12:27 Speaker_02
That's the only kind of dragon I want.

02:12:28 Speaker_01
Sick it on your enemies. Yes. Shut the fuck up. Send it to your house. When you're in Game of Thrones and that lady's standing there and then you see the dragon's head slowly emerge behind her.

02:12:38 Speaker_02
I never watch Game of Thrones. I know. How dare you. I know. It's so good. I keep trying to get into it, and I can't.

02:12:45 Speaker_01
The new one is meh. The new one's two seasons in. The old one is so good. It's so good. It's so good. It makes you want a dragon. The lady who, was her name Vanaras? Who had the dragons? Is that her name?

02:13:00 Speaker_02
I haven't watched it. You didn't watch it either? Could you not get into it?

02:13:03 Speaker_01
She's too busy playing video games and golf.

02:13:06 Speaker_02
Bring me your, bring me your puppy. Bring me your puppy right now. Bring me Carl.

02:13:13 Speaker_00
I don't like fantasy of that kind. What kind of fantasy do you like? I don't know, like sci-fi stuff a little more.

02:13:20 Speaker_01
Have you seen a three body problem?

02:13:22 Speaker_00
No, it was on my list to watch it in. Dude.

02:13:24 Speaker_01
Is it good? It's really good. Really. By the guys who made Games of Thrones. Or the gals or non-binary folks. Whoever the fuck it is.

02:13:31 Speaker_02
Whoever made it.

02:13:32 Speaker_01
Whoever made Game of Thrones. That's a thing that you repeat without looking any further. I don't know what producers or whatever, but the point is, it is a really, really good show. Like, really fun. And science fiction.

02:13:44 Speaker_01
And my wife was not even into science fiction. She loves it.

02:13:47 Speaker_02
I gotta check it out.

02:13:49 Speaker_01
I really want Carl. Isn't he adorable? He's so cute. Yeah, he's gotta rest up for Marshall in about 15-20 minutes. He's gonna meet Marshall again.

02:13:58 Speaker_02
Marshall is just happy right now.

02:14:01 Speaker_01
Oh, yeah. He's happy when Carl's nowhere near him.

02:14:03 Speaker_02
He's like, Carl, please. I can't.

02:14:05 Speaker_01
Especially if he doesn't have a toy where they could play Tiger War.

02:14:08 Speaker_02
Right.

02:14:08 Speaker_01
If they can play tug of war, it's cool. But Carl is just a psycho.

02:14:11 Speaker_02
Oh yeah, as soon as I came in, he was just like biting my sneaker.

02:14:14 Speaker_01
Yeah, he just wants to fight.

02:14:15 Speaker_02
He wants to play. He's still so young though.

02:14:17 Speaker_01
Yeah, he's a little baby. But he's also a crazy dog. He's nuts. He's like a little torpedo. He launches himself through the air at Marshall.

02:14:25 Speaker_02
Yeah, like if he was a person, he'd be a dictator. He's like nuts.

02:14:29 Speaker_01
He'd be a gladiator. He'd be one of those dudes fighting in Rome. He's like just jacked. Yeah, he'd be one of them dudes fighting. He'd be like that, he wouldn't be the guy that killed himself with a shit sponge.

02:14:39 Speaker_02
No, no way. He'd be killing people with a shit sponge, just plunging it right in their throat.

02:14:44 Speaker_01
But you imagine if like today was the lion fight, you're like, I don't want to do this. I'd rather choke to death on a shit stick. Imagine how bad your life has to be.

02:14:52 Speaker_02
Yeah, I think you're like, I'm just going to off myself with this shit stick.

02:14:55 Speaker_01
Imagine like that's all you have to kill yourself is a shit stick. I mean, how bad your life has to suck to take this fucking sponge covered in other people's shit and just bypass your gag instincts and stuff it down your hole until you die?

02:15:12 Speaker_02
Imagine you don't die right away either. You definitely don't die right away. You're just like ingesting those fumes.

02:15:19 Speaker_01
Yeah. You're rolling up in the middle of killing yourself by stuffing it in your neck.

02:15:24 Speaker_00
I think someone thought that would kill them and they just tried smelling it until they died and it didn't work.

02:15:29 Speaker_01
Nah, they're probably used to that kind of smell.

02:15:31 Speaker_02
It's like smelling salts. I bet that shit wakes you right up.

02:15:34 Speaker_01
You want some?

02:15:35 Speaker_02
No. I used to work at a place that I'll do it, but I'm not gonna do it that close. Oh! That's what people do with the shit stick.

02:15:46 Speaker_01
Oh my god! That was the biggest one I ever got. Ever. Oh my god. I thought it had lost a little bit of potency from the other day. Yo! That one hit me harder than anyone I've ever been hit with.

02:15:59 Speaker_02
I thought it wasn't even that close to me. It's like chlorine, but the most chlorine. So I worked at a place that did abortions. It was like an OBGYN and they used to have that stuff to wake people up.

02:16:12 Speaker_01
Oh, fun.

02:16:13 Speaker_02
Ugh, God, that is so bad. You guys addicted though, you wanna try it again, don't you?

02:16:19 Speaker_01
No, I don't. You don't? You sure? I'm not a gambler. I'll give you a couple minutes.

02:16:21 Speaker_02
I'm not a gambler.

02:16:22 Speaker_01
Doesn't matter.

02:16:22 Speaker_02
I'll do it from further away.

02:16:24 Speaker_01
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

02:16:25 Speaker_02
Let's do it again. Let's do it again.

02:16:27 Speaker_01
It's one of those things where everybody does it and they're like, what the fuck? That was so bad. Let me do it again. Let me try it again. Let me try it again. Everybody wants to try it again.

02:16:35 Speaker_02
That was brutal.

02:16:36 Speaker_01
Yeah, it's rough. It's rough stuff.

02:16:39 Speaker_02
What do they use that for, besides?

02:16:40 Speaker_01
Weight lifters. Oh, if they get knocked out. No, no, no. They take it right before they power lift.

02:16:45 Speaker_02
Why?

02:16:48 Speaker_01
Apparently. I don't know the actual science. Maybe Jamie can look it up. The idea, I think, is that it shocks your system. It just jolts everything alive, and then you're like, fucking rawr! Then you can lift more weights. Allegedly.

02:17:01 Speaker_02
That's crazy, because I didn't even have it that close to my face.

02:17:04 Speaker_01
They used to use it with boxers, but they made it illegal. They would put it under a boxer's nose. To wake them up, right? To wake them up, yeah. If they got, like, rocked and hurt, they would snap them back. I don't even know if it works.

02:17:16 Speaker_00
Lots of athletes use it.

02:17:17 Speaker_01
What is it though?

02:17:19 Speaker_00
Is it legal for them? They're using the smaller versions. Why can't boxers use it then? I don't know that they can't.

02:17:25 Speaker_01
I don't think they can. I think smelling salts are illegal in between rounds. I think it actually was an issue that somebody brought up because

02:17:33 Speaker_01
I think someone was asking why someone, it was one of the fight men in the UFC, one of the, excuse me, one of the cut men in the UFC, was holding someone's nose open after they got rocked, like with his finger, but it was just to create more airway.

02:17:47 Speaker_00
It says because they can mask more serious injuries and cause further harm. Right, right, right. That's what disemboxing is.

02:17:53 Speaker_01
Yeah, that makes sense. So like, if you get rocked, and then they give you smelling salts, you might think you're okay, but really, you're still fucked.

02:17:59 Speaker_00
Right. The worst injury from them is what this is backing up. When I was looking into it is whiplash. It's not like burning your nose.

02:18:06 Speaker_01
That's hilarious.

02:18:06 Speaker_00
I was like, from just going like that. Because you can't not react that way. That's hilarious. People that are more hurt, get fucked up more.

02:18:14 Speaker_01
You need to do some neck exercises, homie. You get whiplash from that. That's ridiculous.

02:18:18 Speaker_02
You get into a car accident and you want to get more money, so you just do that for whiplash?

02:18:24 Speaker_01
Take a couple of blasts of that before the cops get there.

02:18:26 Speaker_02
What is that stuff? It just smells like ammonia, kind of.

02:18:28 Speaker_01
I think it is ammonia. Yeah. Yeah, it's just ammonia in crystal form. But this is this company is this product called ah, this is the strongest one.

02:18:38 Speaker_02
I mean, I've smelled it before, too. But like that is very strong. It was like it was like here and I smelled it.

02:18:43 Speaker_01
Yeah, it was this smelled so bad that it smelled inside the seals container. So a sealed plastic container on the outside. I could smell it through the container before it was even open.

02:18:55 Speaker_01
Then once I unsealed it and opened the bag, while this was sealed and with a top to the lid, so there's the top that's sealed over the bottle and then the lid on top of the top.

02:19:05 Speaker_02
And you still smelled it through that?

02:19:06 Speaker_01
Still smelled it through that. With the plastic seal, you gotta pull the seal back and everything. Once we open it up, I could, it's just, it's insane. Whatever the fuck is in, whatever it does to your system.

02:19:17 Speaker_02
How do they like get it in crystal form?

02:19:19 Speaker_01
No. Okay.

02:19:20 Speaker_02
You do first.

02:19:21 Speaker_01
Okay.

02:19:24 Speaker_02
Why would you go that close? That's pretty close.

02:19:35 Speaker_01
Get in there, girl. Big breath. Big breath. Big breath. Big breath. No, that was nothing. I smelled enough. That was nothing.

02:19:41 Speaker_02
I don't care. I'm not going to breathe in it. I'm going to lie. I'm going to pretend I'm doing it. You did it. You had the full experience the first time. That first time is brutal.

02:19:50 Speaker_01
Yeah. Doesn't it wake you up, though?

02:19:52 Speaker_02
It does, for sure.

02:19:53 Speaker_01
Yeah. If somebody had rocked you, if you're in there with some girl who's boxing you up, she's piecing you up. Right.

02:19:58 Speaker_02
And they just smell that.

02:19:59 Speaker_01
They get you in the corner. You're like, whew.

02:20:01 Speaker_02
And then all of a sudden, you're not even feeding it. I can see it making you angry, too.

02:20:03 Speaker_01
Yeah. I would think it'd probably be good to mask any symptoms of you being hurt.

02:20:09 Speaker_02
They should've had that on the shit stick.

02:20:12 Speaker_01
Yeah, imagine just swallowing a bottle of that to kill yourself. But that's better. Probably take a long time.

02:20:19 Speaker_02
You don't think you would die from that right away? It's ammonia.

02:20:22 Speaker_01
I wonder. Okay. How much ammonia would you have to consume for it to be lethal, Jamie?

02:20:28 Speaker_02
I feel like a cup.

02:20:29 Speaker_01
This is not even a cup. Well, that's in crystal form now. I think it'd be prolonged. Based on the amount of time, you're probably doing it. But if you just down this whole thing, it should kill you. I just swallowed it? Yeah, the whole thing.

02:20:40 Speaker_01
I feel like we shouldn't be giving anybody any ideas. Probably not.

02:20:42 Speaker_02
People who were eating Tide Pods don't.

02:20:45 Speaker_01
They were, right? That was real.

02:20:47 Speaker_02
That's a crazy time.

02:20:47 Speaker_01
I think China did that to us. I think they tricked us on the internet. Into taking Tide Pods? Yeah, they got some fake people to pretend to eat Tide Pods and talk to dumb kids.

02:20:55 Speaker_02
Remember when they were locking up detergent because kids were eating Tide Pods? We were like, I don't know, man. If you're eating those Tide Pods, you deserve it.

02:21:05 Speaker_01
Yeah. We're always going to have kids that do stupid shit. There's no way around that.

02:21:11 Speaker_02
Tide Pods is probably one of the top. I'm lucky Tide Pods weren't around when I was a kid. You would have definitely been eating them?

02:21:16 Speaker_01
I know somebody who would have eaten them. There's always that one kid in the neighborhood who'll do anything to get attention.

02:21:21 Speaker_02
They do feel cool, though. They're soft and ... What is in them? Detergent.

02:21:29 Speaker_00
Oh, sorry, Tide Pods. What are you saying, Jimmy? They were saying, this is probably how this got into sports, they thought it counteracted head trauma. Right, yeah. Like 50 years ago. Wakes you up.

02:21:39 Speaker_00
Not just, but I mean, fully, like, if you were knocked out, which, I mean, I know it would wake you up, but they thought it fixed you.

02:21:47 Speaker_01
Right, they thought it brought you back. That's insane. Well, they didn't know shit back then.

02:21:50 Speaker_02
I still smell it.

02:21:51 Speaker_01
I mean, when do you think they figured out brain damage? When they start figuring out if you get punched in the head too many times, you lose your ability to communicate.

02:21:59 Speaker_02
I think they probably knew it pretty early, and they were like, I'm betting on this game, though. Let them keep it in each other.

02:22:05 Speaker_01
Well, they definitely knew about it, because boxers were washed up, even in the 50s and the 60s. But I don't think they understood the extent of it until probably the 60s and the 70s. People started discussing being punch-drunk, punch-drunk boxers.

02:22:19 Speaker_01
I think boxers knew about it, but I think the general public, it wasn't really a big thing.

02:22:24 Speaker_02
What about football people, like concussions and stuff?

02:22:27 Speaker_01
Yeah, for sure. They get it real bad. All of them. All contact athletes, your head getting jarred like that. But I think for us, the big one was Muhammad Ali. Because Muhammad Ali was such a cultural hero.

02:22:40 Speaker_01
And to see Muhammad Ali in the later stages of his life, unable to communicate and shaking, it's very disturbing. Because as much as they try to tell you that had nothing to do with boxing, come on.

02:22:50 Speaker_02
It definitely did.

02:22:51 Speaker_01
Of course it did.

02:22:52 Speaker_02
You jostling your brain around.

02:22:54 Speaker_01
But there's also trauma-induced Parkinson's is a real thing. And so when you see people that are, like Freddie Roach, he was a boxer and now he's a famous trainer. He has trauma-induced Parkinson's.

02:23:08 Speaker_01
It's a shake that he tells you is from his career as a boxer. It's just something that happens to people. And so when you see it happen to someone like Muhammad Ali, you're like, fuck.

02:23:16 Speaker_02
Right, because this guy's like the sign of strength.

02:23:18 Speaker_01
Oh, not just a sign of strength, but the way he would talk was so different than any other boxer. He was so fast. He was so funny. Like Howard Cosell called him truculent once. He seemed very truculent, champ.

02:23:30 Speaker_01
He goes, whatever truculent is, if it's good, I'm that.

02:23:33 Speaker_03
That's a great answer.

02:23:37 Speaker_01
He had so many funny things that he said. He was the first guy that was talking shit in a funny way and getting the whole world to pay attention.

02:23:45 Speaker_01
He said one of his opponents, I forget who it was, he goes, if you ever dreams you beat me, you better wake up and apologize.

02:23:53 Speaker_01
He just said some funny funny things he would say but also like refused to fight in the Vietnam War He said hey, man, fuck you. I'm not going over.

02:24:00 Speaker_01
Yeah good for him Yeah, and then lost his title lost his ability to make a living for three years because of it Like the prime three years of his career was taken from him because he refused to fight in the Vietnam War so he was

02:24:14 Speaker_01
He was a lot more than just a fighter. He was like a cultural icon who defined rebelling against a corrupt and evil system. And then, you know, eventually at the end of his life, he was a victim of the sport that made him famous. And we watched it.

02:24:29 Speaker_03
Right.

02:24:30 Speaker_01
And that's the first time we ever watched someone go from, you know, just celebrated for the way he talked to being unable to communicate at all.

02:24:38 Speaker_00
This gives two very different versions of when it was discovered.

02:24:44 Speaker_01
Ancient Egypt 1848 Phineas Gage a railroad worker Survived a traumatic brain injury when an iron rod shot through his skull and destroyed much of his left frontal lobe Gage's personality changed dramatically in his case considered a landmark in the study of brain damage and personality We have pictures of that

02:25:03 Speaker_01
Yo, let's see the pictures. Oh boy. Oh boy.

02:25:08 Speaker_00
It says it went right through. Oh my God. He didn't apparently feel much pain. Oh boy. Heath was throwing up for every 20 minutes, but he was lucid and remained talking the whole time.

02:25:20 Speaker_01
So he just made his hair part over the hole in his head?

02:25:23 Speaker_00
It said he had obliterated his left frontal lobe. Oh boy. He survived the accident. A 13 inch railroad rod Is that the rod that he has in his hand? Yeah, I think so. Oh, Christ. He kept it? That could be a gun or something. No, that looks like the rod, dude.

02:25:39 Speaker_01
That's the thing that went through his fucking head and he lived. And now he's keeping it. Oh, that's what it looked like. Oh, my God.

02:25:50 Speaker_02
Wait, so it didn't go through his eye?

02:25:52 Speaker_01
It went through his head and destroyed his eye. What do you think that, what did it say it did to his personality?

02:25:58 Speaker_00
So this was like the first study in psychology, it's changed psychology.

02:26:04 Speaker_01
Right, what did they say, how did they say it affected his personality? Phineas Gage on second thought, that's interesting. What does that say on the top?

02:26:12 Speaker_00
The title of it?

02:26:13 Speaker_01
A re-examination of the famous case of a man whose personality changed from a grievous brain injury. Mm-hmm. Okay, wait a minute. Yeah Yeah Yeah, it's hard to know this is a funky site the dude who runs that sites funky

02:26:42 Speaker_02
I mean I bet he wasn't a good time to be around.

02:26:45 Speaker_01
Well it does definitely dramatically change people like I was reading about this guy who developed an ability to see mathematics in like geometric form. And it's called acquired savant syndrome.

02:27:01 Speaker_01
So this guy started creating like geometric art, like apparently had no interest in mathematics at all. And then I think he got mugged. I think he got beat up and then developed some bizarre mathematical ability.

02:27:15 Speaker_02
I mean, that's better than the people that have, like, traumatic brain injuries and become pedophiles. Like, definitely pray for the mathematic genius.

02:27:24 Speaker_01
Well, I know quite a few comics of Adam. Roseanne Barr, Kinnison, both got hit by cars, both changed their personalities dramatically afterwards.

02:27:33 Speaker_01
It's probably, like, quite a few people just got knocked in the head and then just became a different person.

02:27:38 Speaker_02
Right.

02:27:39 Speaker_01
Which is really weird. It's a sketchy thing.

02:27:42 Speaker_02
Oh, no, your joke was about somebody taking medicine.

02:27:46 Speaker_01
Oh, the joke about the Parkinson's drug. That's true. That's true. It's so crazy. Yeah. It's called a dopamine agonist. And apparently with some people it could completely removes their inhibitions.

02:28:00 Speaker_02
Right.

02:28:00 Speaker_01
He was gambling, gambling, gay sex just went off the rails. And when you lost like six hundred thousand or something somewhere in the neighborhood of that. Yeah. Lost everything.

02:28:12 Speaker_02
But then when he stopped taking the drug, he was okay. Got back to normal.

02:28:17 Speaker_01
He's like, what the fuck was I doing? He won in court, which is the craziest thing. He sued GlaxoSmithKline. He lost as much money as he gained back, and he was also raped twice. No, raped once, I think. He was raped. He was raped. He was raped.

02:28:33 Speaker_01
Yeah, he picked a guy up off Craigslist.

02:28:36 Speaker_02
I guess he didn't see that coming.

02:28:37 Speaker_01
He just became addicted to gay sex and gambling.

02:28:40 Speaker_02
It's crazy to like stop doing that and then you're like wow I remember all those dicks I took.

02:28:44 Speaker_01
Yeah. That was a crazy time. Well he was a different human like his brain like we don't think about it this way but your brain is essentially this.

02:28:56 Speaker_01
functional ecosystem of all these different things dopamine and serotonin all these neurotransmitters and and then the blood that's flowing through your body it's all operating on this sort of like fairly regular schedule of what's available to use and how you interpret consciousness based on the chemicals and then all of a sudden you introduce this new shit and

02:29:21 Speaker_01
And this new shit makes you want to suck cock and play bingo.

02:29:23 Speaker_02
It's just crazy that both of those things are like the same in this guy's head.

02:29:28 Speaker_01
Well, it's just wild impulses. I'm sure you had probably other impulses. I don't know if you got more violent, but that sometimes happens where people can't control.

02:29:37 Speaker_01
You know like someone cuts you off in traffic and you want to be like, oh, this fucking idiot. Right. They just fucking can't take it. They just want to just drive someone off the road. They just lose their impulse control.

02:29:46 Speaker_01
That happens to people with CTE as well. A lot of people with CTE, they have a very short fuse, like very short fuse.

02:29:53 Speaker_02
Didn't they make that happen with Aaron Hernandez?

02:29:57 Speaker_01
Yeah, they said he had the worst CTE I think that they had ever diagnosed and he was alive and 28.

02:30:05 Speaker_01
You know, so he wasn't, well, he's dead, obviously, because they did an autopsy, but I mean, he was alive at 28 before he killed himself with the worst CTE they had ever seen. So it hadn't even killed him, but it had destroyed his brain.

02:30:20 Speaker_01
I mean, his brain was destroyed. It was just filled with holes. That's crazy. Crazy. And they said that when they studied football players, there's some extraordinary number of football players that have CTE. It's in the high 90%.

02:30:38 Speaker_01
And this is not just college, this is high school, college.

02:30:41 Speaker_02
But all those people that have those high CTE counts, they're not killing people either. Some of them are.

02:30:47 Speaker_01
Not a lot. No, not a lot. But the thing about it is, first of all, when it's over, there's a lot of them that wind up killing themselves.

02:30:55 Speaker_01
That's a big thing that happens with fighters, it happens with soldiers also, the PTSD compounding the fact that they have brain injuries. A lot of heavy depression.

02:31:07 Speaker_01
So 345 NFL players, former NFL players, with chronic traumatic encephalopathy out of 376 former players studied. So out of all those people studied, only 31 dudes didn't have it.

02:31:23 Speaker_01
So it's ninety one point seven percent among those diagnosed in the last year two former players who once represented the teams paired in the Sunday Super Bowl Former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback.

02:31:34 Speaker_01
Could you do me a favor and just Google Aaron Hernandez CTE?

02:31:39 Speaker_00
with results Second highest you could have I don't know the stages but says stage three where she's ever seen in someone that young and

02:31:48 Speaker_02
Yeah, cuz he was yeah, that's what I was gonna say. He wasn't playing as long as some of these other people.

02:31:52 Speaker_01
That's what's crazy Some range of symptoms including emotional and behavioral changes memory loss and depression Yeah Yeah It's nuts. It's nuts, and it's 91% of the players.

02:32:06 Speaker_02
It's crazy, too, that you just keep playing football because you make so much money from it.

02:32:10 Speaker_01
Well, I think Aaron Hernandez was a violent dude already. There was a lot of abuse in his childhood, and there's a lot of crazy stuff. Sure. I think there was a lot going on with that guy.

02:32:20 Speaker_02
Right. So he might have been a little unhinged to begin with.

02:32:23 Speaker_01
I've murdered a bunch of people. At least one. I think he murdered at least two. They think he murdered two.

02:32:29 Speaker_02
Yeah, I thought it was two.

02:32:30 Speaker_01
But I think one is confirmed. How many people did Aaron Hernandez murder?

02:32:34 Speaker_02
I don't know, I thought it was three.

02:32:36 Speaker_01
I mean, dude's playing in the NFL.

02:32:39 Speaker_00
He's acquitted of a double homicide.

02:32:42 Speaker_01
Playing in the NFL. Superstar, also. Just gunning people down. with one of the worst examples of CTE that we've ever discovered.

02:32:51 Speaker_00
You were found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.

02:32:55 Speaker_01
Did he hang himself? Is that how he died? Did he hang himself?

02:32:58 Speaker_00
I believe so.

02:33:02 Speaker_01
Imagine like an injury like that dude with the rod through the brain and now all of a sudden you're a totally different person. Like all your life you've been one person and then gone. That person's gone.

02:33:13 Speaker_02
It's kind of fun.

02:33:15 Speaker_01
Maybe not.

02:33:16 Speaker_02
There's only one way to find out.

02:33:19 Speaker_01
You would try, like, you would want to know, like, how hard do I have to get hit in the head to be really good at math? Like, you don't want to overdo it.

02:33:25 Speaker_02
No, you don't want to. You're like, keep pushing me. I still can't figure this equation out.

02:33:30 Speaker_01
One more kick to the face, please. I think we're right there. I think I'm starting to see geometry.

02:33:36 Speaker_02
Yeah, that's crazy.

02:33:36 Speaker_01
But it doesn't happen to everybody. That's what's weird. No. Some people make some great comics. Some people just make some brain dead.

02:33:44 Speaker_02
Yeah. There's a fine line. There's a fine line.

02:33:48 Speaker_01
Between genius and brain dead. And everything is a fine line. All right, should we wrap this up?

02:33:52 Speaker_02
Let's wrap it up.

02:33:53 Speaker_01
It was really fun.

02:33:54 Speaker_02
Yeah.

02:33:54 Speaker_01
Always is. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here. You're very funny. I really enjoy your comedy. I love the risks you take. You know, you just go for it. It's fun to watch. It's great. It really is. It's fun.

02:34:05 Speaker_01
It's a different thing than anybody else is doing, and people love it. I think there's reason for that. And I think you're like one of those people that they have to find out about you to appreciate you. And that happened with a lot of people.

02:34:16 Speaker_01
That happened with Steven Wright, that happened with Mitch Hedberg. People had to know what they were coming for to really appreciate it.

02:34:23 Speaker_02
Do you remember that story when Mitch Hedberg did his special for Comedy Central? It took so long because he was bombing the whole way through.

02:34:32 Speaker_02
Do you never heard that I mean and he's like a genius but like his special he was not doing well and they kept filming it and felt and like finally he's like sitting down on those stairs cuz I think he had been at it for a while and you watch that special it's like hilarious he's like a genius so yeah but like yeah in the room it just was not going well

02:34:50 Speaker_01
Well, it all depended with Mitch on also, who is there a complimentary opening act that makes sense? Sure. Like he would have guys on the road, like have a middle act on the road that the club would provide.

02:35:01 Speaker_01
That dude would be doing backflips and singing songs.

02:35:03 Speaker_02
Right. That's not a great person for you to follow.

02:35:05 Speaker_01
It's terrible. And so people didn't know who he was back then. It was just, who's the headliner? Oh, there's a guy named Mitch Hedberg. Why does he have sunglasses on? Why is he staring at the ground? Yeah.

02:35:14 Speaker_01
But once they knew who he was, then they would come to see him and then it was awesome. And I think there's a thing like that with you.

02:35:20 Speaker_02
Well, what's funny, too, is like Louis, you know, directed and he's like, let's do this thing at first. He was like, let's do this thing where nobody knows you're filming a special.

02:35:28 Speaker_02
He's like, you know, you're just going out there and like, you know, usually half the crowd loves me and half the crowd doesn't. So I was like, let's do one show like that. And that show, I tap danced the whole way, and it was so brutal.

02:35:41 Speaker_02
I left that, the first two shows we did, I was like, the first one was okay, and the second one was so brutal, because none of them knew who I were. They didn't know I was doing a special. They just thought they were coming for a regular show.

02:35:50 Speaker_02
And I'm up there for an hour. And people, like, there was like seven people that liked me, but like, we all left so dejected. Like, Louis was like, I can't even watch this. And Ari, I seen Ari being like so depressed.

02:36:05 Speaker_02
And then I went home that night and I was like, I'm gonna have to quit comedy.

02:36:09 Speaker_01
Oh my God.

02:36:10 Speaker_02
And then the next two shows the next night were amazing. But like, yes, I'm not for everyone.

02:36:15 Speaker_01
Yeah, you're not for everybody.

02:36:16 Speaker_02
Not even my biological father.

02:36:20 Speaker_01
Well, you're for me. I appreciate you.

02:36:21 Speaker_02
Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.

02:36:23 Speaker_01
My pleasure. So, one more time, Jamie, show it. It's available now, Netflix, The Dark Queen. Tell people your Instagram, all that jazz.

02:36:32 Speaker_02
It's just my name, Adrian Appaloochee.

02:36:34 Speaker_01
Spell it, though, because people are like, Appaloochee must mean A.

02:36:38 Speaker_02
I know, well also too- But you have an I first, this funky I. I know, but everyone always thinks it's an L, so that's why I was like, we need to use a font where it's an I. So it's A-D-R-I-E-N-N-E, and then the last name's I-A-P-A-L-U.

02:36:52 Speaker_01
Have you ever thought about just changing your last name to an A? Just put an A there? Just one big A? I mean, everyone thinks it's an L. How about just changing it one big A, so people know how to say it?

02:37:00 Speaker_02
I feel like I like being a little difficult.

02:37:03 Speaker_01
You do. That makes sense. Keep it that way. Don't listen to me. Thank you very much. Appreciate you very much. Bye everybody.