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Episode: #2226 - Theo Von

Author: Joe Rogan
Duration: 03:28:25

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Theo Von is a stand-up comic and podcaster. He is the host of "This Past Weekend with Theo Von.

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In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe Rogan converses with Theo Von, a stand-up comedian and podcaster. They discuss a wide range of topics, including the political landscape, rising crime rates, gender identity, and the psychological impact of being a police officer. Theo shares his personal anecdotes and observations, addressing modern societal issues such as addiction, modern slavery, and the nuances of identity politics. The conversation highlights the importance of community and the camaraderie within the comedy industry, ultimately reflecting on historical injustices and our innate human behaviors.

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The Joe Rogan Experience.

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These are like conversation condoms, aren't they?

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Yeah, a little bit. Well, it's like a safe room. Blocks out the world. Yeah. Conversation only exists inside your ears. You know? Locks you in. I think it locks you in. Yeah. That's what I like about it.

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Yeah, it's almost like a football player kind of putting on their helmet.

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Right. Ready to go.

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You're like, we're ready for this. Yeah.

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Yo, how fun was election night at the mothership?

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It was baffling, man. I mean, here, I'll tell you.

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That was so much fun.

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We had such a good time. That green room was so positive. My favorite part, at one point, they were playing that song, you talk about a revolution. People were dancing, people were smoking weed. I think there was a baby smoking weed.

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Everybody was like, people were like, it was crazy, dude. Adam and Eve were in there.

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There was just a lot going on. It felt like, America is brighter. That's what it felt like. We were moving towards this insane world where we're being controlled by liars. We're just being gaslit left and right. We saw it all over the media.

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We saw it all over the news. Things that were right in front of your face, they're trying to deny. There's just so much craziness. And then all of a sudden, the world spoke. Did you see the map of the actual country?

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Like how many places actually voted red?

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Oh no, I don't know if I saw that or not.

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It's just a few cities. Even California was mostly red. That's what's crazy.

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I don't know if I saw that. I'm trying to think of what I saw. There's a... Oh, Tony was a Nervous member? Dude, he better be fucking nervous. Dude, I kept just going up to him and going, Feliz Navidad, just to fucking get his vibe.

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Look at that.

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Oh, wow.

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This is the one I saw Jameel send this to you. It's got music to it.

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This was like when I got that hair surgery. I'm talking about they played music in the background.

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No, but it looks like Yeah, it looks a lot like that like a transplant Yeah Micro graphs.

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Yeah, that's what it looks like man.

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So what I sent you Jamie it just shows like the entire country That's right Look at that Oh, that's interesting. That's crazy. There's no blue states, just blue cities.

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Well, then why do you think the cities and states are so much different then?

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Well, cities are always going to be blue. It's normal. There's a lot of factors. One of them is You have massive populations of people, right? And when you have massive populations of people, a lot of times it's based around universities.

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Like Los Angeles is slightly different because Los Angeles has universities, but really it's more around Hollywood, which is equally delusional. But most big cities are flavored by a university. Like Austin is flavored by the University of Texas.

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It's why Austin is progressive. Austin is, for people that don't know outside of Texas, Austin is one of the most progressive cities.

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Like if you look at, we voted in Austin, the city of Austin voted more for Kamala Harris than the city of Los Angeles did.

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Oh wow, really?

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A higher percentage of Democrats voted for Kamala Harris than even Los Angeles.

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Well, I think a lot, it seems like a lot, like a lot of Democrats, I don't know like a ton about politics, but it seems like a lot of Democrats, like it's, I understand a lot of the voting because it's hopeful voting. It's like wishful thinking.

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Well, they're feeding off of narratives. Like, you're a good person if you believe this. But the consequences are what they're ignoring. The pretending that the economy's in a great place. That's crazy. Talk to anybody who's broke.

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Talk to anybody who's struggling to pay for bills and groceries. Talk to anybody who's trying to buy a car. The economy's bananas right now. It's sketchy, very sketchy.

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And a lot of it is- People are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace.

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A lot of it is recovering from COVID, I'm sure. I mean, there's probably a lot of blowback from that. I mean, they shut the whole fucking country down, which is just so nuts.

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That was insane, man. I think that's one of the, like, but yeah, I mean, yeah, people are robbing each other on Facebook Marketplace. My buddy was going to buy a couple of walkie-talkies off a guy, right? Gets fucking mugged, right? Really? Yeah.

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He was going to buy a couple of, So he meets the guy to go get the walkie-talkies and the guy mugs him? And it's like the seventh story I've heard, but it's like, you know, people are doing crime, you know, people are resorting to crime.

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And that's when it's not good, I feel like.

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Well, not just that. When people are resorting to crime.

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One of the things this administration did that I think is terrible, and this is a progressive liberal thing, is that you have these DAs, these George Soros-funded DAs that just let people out for violent crime.

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Get the no cash bail thing and when there's no repercussions for crime.

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Guess what crime goes way the fuck up Oh, yeah, if I'm a criminal and they're like, hey, it's crime time or whatever. Yeah, I'm gonna fucking put on my cleats or whatever I'm gonna go to jail and you're just gonna get released.

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Yeah, it's like catch and release. It's almost like the um fishing rules or whatever if you go trout fishing

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You're a fly fisherman you used to be a cop now you're a fly fisherman with a pair of Nikes on the hook Yeah those fishermen they use barbless hooks and then they let the fish go I went fly fishing recently yeah, yeah, man Yeah, you know what I did.

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I I thought it was like um Let me think about what I thought it was like uh I

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It's the more sophisticated way to go fishing. Yes.

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It was like, excuse me, fish. Yes.

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Gentle cast.

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Yes. It was like, hey.

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It also requires a lot more skill.

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Well, it requires more patience.

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For sure.

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You can't like, um, like if you have a kid or whatever, you can't do it.

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Like you, like if you're just fishing on the bank, you can have your kid and he can be sitting there smoking or whatever your kid likes to do, you know, but if you, if you're in that, you have to constantly be moving it.

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Right.

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You know, it's very kind of like, um, It's kind of homoerotic, almost. It's like, hey, fish, or whatever.

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What? Really? Oh, it's flailing.

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It's gentle. It's like, hey, fish.

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I think so? Yeah, dude, you ever seen those guys? Homoerotic. It's like, hey, fish, I'm over here. I'm over here, boys.

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Well, the least sophisticated form of fishing is like a bobber with a worm on it. Yeah.

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Right?

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That's the least. You throw it out there. But that's some of the most fun fishing, because that bobber starts moving. You're like, oh, shit.

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Yeah. Oh, shit. I think we got one. Oh, shit. It's like jaws all of a sudden.

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Bro, fishing is so exciting.

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Yeah, my grandma used to take us fishing, dude, and she was like a Malignant fisherman or whatever and she would all generate Yeah, like very she was like a staunch fisherman like taunts like we're fishing you know You better not fucking not fish.

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You know she would I kind of have that kind of behavior.

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Yes.

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She was very You better fucking fish white boy.

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Well.

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You know she would kind of be like that yes very aggressive right about fishing for little kids.

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Yeah, okay?

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and we'd have to be quiet and look straight out and wait for the bobber. But she was really, she loved to fish.

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Did she love to eat fish?

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Yep, she liked to skin them and grill them and everything.

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Yeah? Yeah, it was cool. What kind of fish?

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Mostly catfish, bullheads. We used to fish up in like Spoon River up in like Illinois.

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Did you guys use like chicken liver for? Yeah. Yeah.

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We would get out there, we'd have a little thermos full of chicken liver.

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Yeah, chicken liver works, man.

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My grandfather would say anything and she'd fucking look at him and he wouldn't talk for a month after that.

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She was the fisherman.

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She was the fisher woman. Yeah, she was she loved to fish.

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I think she liked She liked catching her own meals even you know she didn't like to hunt, but she liked to fish What's that fucking dudes named the chubby dude that dressed up like the devil and everybody got mad?

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He's a singer Sam. What's that? Have Smith yeah he He said he wanted to be a fisher-them. Not a fisherman, a fisher-her, a fisher-she. A fisher-them. Yeah, that's wild.

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The they-them thing, that's the best evidence you need that people are out of their fucking minds. You can't be plural, you fucking idiot. Stop. The only thing I think it's like, it's almost This episode is brought to you by LifeLock.

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If you're being plural, you're... I don't understand it. If you're being plural, are you being like there's more of me kind of? That's what I don't understand. Is it like an ego trip?

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That's what I don't understand about the... It's just a way to be unique and it's a way to be in a marginalized community if you're just a regular person.

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So if you're a regular white person, you're at the lower end of the social hierarchy amongst woke people. But if you're queer or non-binary, Now you're in a protected group.

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My buddy's queer actually nice.

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What does he have to do to be queer?

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Nothing, he's cool. He's just he doesn't Yeah, he didn't like send you an email update or whatever.

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He's just Did he update his Twitter pronouns?

00:11:04 Speaker_09
No, he's just like a just decides he's queer. Yeah, he's like a secret not secret. He's like a He's just like a or I don't know what they call it.

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I got a look at the Charlotte ever What is queer these days because when I was a kid queer was gay If someone was queer, they're gay or if you got punched in the head, then you're on queer Street It was like everything was confusing queer was confusing.

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Okay, and then queer became gay Somewhere along the line, but now I think queer is whatever you want it to be. Yeah, you could be gay bi straight And then you can be pansexual

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And what is that?

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Exactly. That's what Wayne Brady is.

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He's pansexual?

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He came out. Damn. Came out as pansexual.

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I don't know what that means. I can barely handle whatever I am, dude. To be real honest, bro.

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It's all so new.

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Whatever I am, bro, it keeps jerking off at night and being afraid to talk to women. So whatever that one is, that's what I am, bro.

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You're theosexual. Oh, it's fucking getting kind of heady, man. You're theosexual. Why are you afraid to talk to the women?

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No, I don't know. I think I get afraid to like, I've always got afraid to approach women, you know?

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Yeah. But boy, you're a handsome fellow. You're funny. You're successful.

00:12:24 Speaker_09
I don't know. I think something I just... Childhood shit? Yeah, probably. I would just be so fucking nervous, buddy. When I was a kid, I would be so nervous. Hmm.

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Oh, yeah, I would be so which is interesting that you got in a stand-up comedy, which makes people really fucking nervous Well, I think I was familiar with being nervous so that didn't affect oh Interesting cuz you're nervous all the time.

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You're like fuck it.

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I'll just go be nervous in front of all these people Oh the audience is the when you're on stage the audience is just a woman. Oh Oh, like you're just trying to get him to like you. You're just trying to get, yeah.

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You're like, how do we get this to work out? You know? How do I get you to like me more? Who do I have to be? The other night was crazy. Sorry, I cut you off. No, no, go ahead. I got nothing, man. The other night was crazy. This week's been crazy.

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It's just been a crazy week. Yeah. You know, it's been a crazy week, man.

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It was interesting because the beginning of the night, no one knew what was going to happen. So you're watching the first results roll in, and there's like this weird thing.

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And then Trump gets way ahead, but you're like, you don't want to like get too hopeful. Like, how far ahead is he? He's ahead by 100 points. That seems like a lot.

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Yeah, and you're like what is it in some channels are like and then every channel is kind of different Yeah, they had different numbers I was getting a different number off my Apple news update that I was getting off of CNN and then I was texting people like Tulsi and JD Vance I was getting a different up apparently Elon created an app

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And he knew who won four hours before the results. So as the results were coming in, four hours before they called it, Dana White told me, Elon was like, I'm leaving. It's over. Donald won.

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He just fucking somehow or another.

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I'm going to go back into my pod and evaporate. I don't know what he's getting, where he's pulling his data from, but he had the most accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put their results in yet, but yet Trump was ahead in these states.

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Kamala's never going to win those states, so tabulated that and put it all together. I don't know how he did it. I haven't even talked to Elon about this. I don't know. Dana translation, but Dana said he had a nap and he was like showing him.

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He's like it's over It's over John Jones one He just fucking left Dude, yeah, I mean the whole thing's crazy me I'm so happy for uh, my biggest thing was I was so happy for Bobby Kennedy, man Yeah, because he's the only person that I super know like as a human, you know he's been a buddy of mine for years and I've just known that he's a

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Like I trust him like you it's almost like if you have people that you know and that are good people It's like yeah, I have to trust my own instincts at some point and know I know him, you know, he's a he's a Somebody I would vouch for right, you know, he's a good guy and he's been helpful to me like in in moments, um where I have had have struggled as a person and just a

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Been inspirational to me, you know, it's like I know him, you know, like a friend and so so that's I think like That was something I was like super excited about just to see where everybody was like Screw this guy, you know and to see him have a arc where it's like, um, because all he ever cared about um to me and I don't know this just my opinions dude, some people everybody has their own opinions and i'm an idiot, but

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But he always cared about like the rivers and the environment, you know? And then he started to care about the environment inside of our bodies, right? So for me, that all makes sense, right?

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And so like- Well, you know where it all happened from, right?

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I was super, like that was, I was super excited about it.

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Do you know how he made the transition to being worried about pharmaceutical drugs? He would give these speeches and he litigated a bunch of lawsuits against corporations that were polluting rivers. They cleaned up the East River.

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He was an environmental attorney. And they were also talking about the effects of mercury poisoning in the soil and water. And these women kept coming to these things that he was doing and saying, you need to investigate mercury in vaccines.

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and you know he thought like that is like which most people think you hear vaccine like the last thing i want to be labeled is a vaccine skeptic jesus christ a vaccine denier that's like i mean we talked about this yesterday but it's like holocaust deniers number one but vaccine denier and election denier are like right under there yeah

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and he started looking into it, particularly the MMR vaccines and the correlation between the uptick of all these autoimmune issues, autism spectrum disorders, all these different things that coincided directly with the increase in the vaccine schedule for kids.

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And so then he starts doing research on it. And the more he does research on it, the more it gets uncovered that there's this gigantic machine that's protecting all of this because there's so much money that's being generated.

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And most of it has to do with during the Reagan administration, they gave them immunity to prosecution. So they couldn't, they were no longer liable for whatever side effects the vaccines caused.

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Yeah, that's pretty wild.

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Yeah, and then of course these motherfuckers started giving little kids, little babies that were just born Hep B vaccines. What are you doing? You get that from needles and sex.

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Yeah, unless it's Pam Anderson's baby, dude. I wouldn't put anything in that kid, you know? And I don't even know if she has any kids or not. And I love Tommy Lee, so I shouldn't have said that.

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Well, you're fucked up. It's a joke. What are you gonna do? It's a fucking joke.

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Yeah, sorry. Everything's okay.

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I feel the same way about Bobby. I don't know him as well as I know Tulsi, though. Yeah, I don't know her. Tulsi's a good friend of mine. I love her. She's great. She's an awesome person. She's like a legitimate awesome person.

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You know, that lady, she served as a congresswoman for eight years, and the whole time she was like, she was against this divide of right versus left. She was always trying to be cool with everybody. She served overseas.

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She was deployed overseas in a medical unit, man. So she was helping people that got blown up by the war, twice. That's where she got that crazy white streak in her hair. Really? Yeah.

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That all came from the stress of being overseas, working in a medical unit.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I guess. Can stress be that compartmentalized inside of you and it comes out like that?

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You can't imagine. I was just talking to my friend Bruce about this last night. He was a cop in Austin. We were talking about the amount of death that most police officers see and the stress that has on you.

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And what he was telling me is you take like a cop that has like 20 years in the job, what they see is probably 10x what the average soldier who's deployed sees. Because you're seeing murder all the time. You're seeing car accidents all the time.

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Suicide all the time. Domestic violence all the time. You're pulling people over. You never know if you're going to get shot. He goes, most of these guys are fucked up because they're just constantly seeing this stuff. Constantly.

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Oh, yeah. I'd be at home. I'd hear somebody open a jar of Pringles and I'd fucking pull on them, you know. Yeah, what's going on? Dude, we had a police officer on a few years ago or about a year ago. Can you look this up?

00:19:54 Speaker_09
Jamie, is it okay to ask him to look something up?

00:19:55 Speaker_06
Yeah, sure, sure.

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Okay. It's a police officer.

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How long ago?

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Yes. This guy, retired police officer, Sergeant Brad White. This guy was super unique. He lived in Los Angeles, but he told this story he he was He didn't have any political thoughts.

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He just told stories of what it was like being a police officer and he told the story of His first day on the job. They're chasing a guy the guy runs into traffic gets hit by a vehicle and killed right and

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So even as it just a human being like you're you're just doing a job But then you're like trying to compartmentalize work or how do you know what effect did I have on this? What am I you know like right?

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He told this story of a mother he called and said that her son was um was thinking about committing suicide, right? The mother meets him in the yard. He shows up. He's a police officer. It's outside of Los Angeles, I think, in Whittier Police Department.

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I could be wrong. He shows up. The mom meets him outside. They see the son comes into the doorway, right? It's like a glass door with another door behind it, kind of. Takes his own life, right? Kills himself right in front of them.

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So now he's standing there with the mom. Now he has to go, he has to go, he has to console the mother, then go inside of the home. He walks inside, the door won't open because the man's body is there, right?

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He's having trouble getting it open, even just that moment. He gets it open, something falls off of the ceiling down the back of his shirt, and it's part of the guy, his brain matter. He had shot himself on the ceiling.

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So I know that's graphic and stuff. And then for the next three or four hours, he has to take care of this scene with this little feeling between his bat wings, whatever that, what is that?

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Bulletproof vest?

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No, inside of your body. Shoulder blades. Shoulder blades, yeah.

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It's brain matter.

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And it's just like, that's just a regular guy, you know, he might not even have finished college or something, you know, it's like, so just the baffling amount of stuff that police go through.

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Anyway, I was trying to just like, those are stories that stuck with me when I when I spoke with that guy. It was like unbelievable.

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It's just conveniently ignored by most people who will never be police officers. And then that was one of the more offensive things about the George Floyd thing.

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All this defund the police shit where people rose up and were saying defund the police and I mean defund the police. And Kamala Harris was one of them. She was out there tweeting defund the police. And because of that

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Crime just ramped up in certain communities and so many people wanted the police back, but then it's you know It's a long process to try to and to this day the most of these cops don't have good morale They still have this this feeling of defund the police was just a couple of years ago.

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Yeah It's hard to get people to be cops now. They don't want that fucking job, and why would they it's a fucking hard job?

00:23:09 Speaker_09
Yeah, and they don't even Think the highlight like they usually they used to play like softball in our area against like the fire department That was like the highlight of it.

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You know it was like having like Competition you know, but I don't even like if you defund them. They're not even super funded.

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You don't ever see a cop with like a um boat Or so you know I'm saying like you don't a ball or cop yeah If you think about how hard that job is like hard job should pay more

00:23:39 Speaker_06
Dude, you know like what is that? I think if you paid them too much so then they just quit like I got enough.

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I'm out Because like what's harder being a rapper or being a cop it's fucking way harder being a cop oh Yeah, I think yeah cuz rappers get paid way more.

00:23:55 Speaker_09
That's true Cops just I think a lot of cops will start making albums But there really should be some there should be a great producer that goes on a ride-along with a police officer This is gonna happen watch and makes a dope track with a cop, right?

00:24:13 Speaker_09
And the and you could make a dope need of so much great visuals, right and the proceeds go towards Supporting the police department.

00:24:20 Speaker_06
Yeah, like the cop could like be saying shit from behind the wheel and you can sample that Yeah, sample that and turn them into songs. We got it

00:24:30 Speaker_09
In pursuit, in pursuit.

00:24:32 Speaker_06
Different codes, different codes, 5150. Isn't that when someone's crazy?

00:24:35 Speaker_09
Oh yeah, that's crazy right there. That's 50, I think 44.

00:24:39 Speaker_06
Is this cop rap? What is this? Grammy nominated rapper, Sacramento police officer records new deployment recruitment video.

00:24:46 Speaker_09
Pull him up, man.

00:24:48 Speaker_06
No.

00:24:52 Speaker_03
I just figured there could have already been one.

00:24:54 Speaker_06
What's that, 5150? What do you have to do to be a Grammy nominated? Grammy nominated doesn't impress me. Grammy winning, that impressed me. Grammy nominated, who nominated you?

00:25:03 Speaker_09
Yeah. My Grammy nominated anybody. She liked Traveling Wilburys.

00:25:08 Speaker_06
You didn't?

00:25:10 Speaker_09
I mean, I didn't. If my grandfather showed up and said, hey, they're good, I respect that a little bit more, but that's just me. Lainey Wilson I love. She's great. Red Clay Strays, Steven Wilson Jr.

00:25:21 Speaker_06
Red Clay Strays are great. They're good, huh? Yeah. There's good music out now. It's a good time for music because, like, you could find things so easily, you know? You don't have to wait for the radio. You just find stuff. People send you stuff.

00:25:34 Speaker_06
Like, in the green room all the time, someone will play something. I go, what is this? And they'll shazam it, like, oh, shit. It's nice. I mean, that Shazam thing, that feature is so huge.

00:25:44 Speaker_10
Yeah.

00:25:44 Speaker_06
You know, on Google Pixel phones, there's an option to just have it on all the time. So anytime a song is playing, you can look down on your phone and it'll tell you what song's playing.

00:25:53 Speaker_09
I didn't know it.

00:25:54 Speaker_06
Do they still do that? I think that's still a feature. I think it's only on the Google Pixel.

00:25:58 Speaker_09
What was I thinking? I feel all over the place today, Joe. You ever feel like that?

00:26:05 Speaker_06
Oh, yeah. Like you open your life? I haven't been sleeping. Yeah, I didn't sleep well. Two days in a row I didn't sleep. The night of the election, I could not sleep. I got home, I was wired. Did you jerk off or nothing?

00:26:17 Speaker_06
No, no, I just sat in front of the TV. I was watching Professional Pool, sitting in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith. Me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at like 3.30 in the morning. And then I finally went to bed, and my wife woke up.

00:26:29 Speaker_06
She was like, what happened? Who won? I was like, Trump won in a landslide.

00:26:32 Speaker_09
You're like the Spurs.

00:26:33 Speaker_06
And then she was up. It was a landslide. It was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought was going to happen in 2022.

00:26:42 Speaker_06
Hey, Jamie, I'm hearing more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020.

00:26:50 Speaker_06
versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024 that they're still saying it was a giant jump. That's what I see too. A lot of people think it's bullshit. Could be.

00:27:05 Speaker_06
There's a lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers Because Biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million.

00:27:14 Speaker_09
It's really crazy if you look at the chart well did Yeah, did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year?

00:27:22 Speaker_09
Yeah, that's what I don't know what the visual report is for this year, but then I guess is the most consequential election I think I've ever felt For sure, for sure.

00:27:31 Speaker_06
The way people felt about it, too. The people on the left thought they were convinced that Hitler was coming. They're convinced that some right wing authoritarian is going to come down and take away all your rights. And well, that's me.

00:27:43 Speaker_09
That's that's the media does that.

00:27:45 Speaker_06
A hundred percent. But a hundred percent. Not what he was saying, not what he did for four years in office. It's all the media.

00:27:52 Speaker_06
And we're all victim of it a little bit, because you won't defend him or support him if you hear all these things about him, because then you've got to defend the fact that, no, he didn't really do that. He's not really a felon.

00:28:05 Speaker_06
There were only misdemeanors. Texas voter turnout falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers. This is just Texas, right? 61% cast ballots, near 6% drop from the 2020 presidential race.

00:28:23 Speaker_06
But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in, because the nationwide numbers, they're pretty consistent, like through the entire, like if you look at 2012, it's consistent with 2016, which is also consistent with 2024.

00:28:37 Speaker_06
The anomaly is 2020. In 2020, everything goes way up, way up.

00:28:48 Speaker_09
Maybe because people were sitting home and so bored and they said it's that much to do, you think?

00:28:52 Speaker_06
Could be, could be, because it was during COVID. Could be they, a lot of people weren't working, so they did have the opportunity to vote. Voting should be a national holiday.

00:29:01 Speaker_09
I agree. I don't understand.

00:29:02 Speaker_06
It's crazy that you give some people a complication, like imagine if you have a shithead boss, you're like, I gotta vote. Why didn't you vote early? I was working for you, piece of shit. Let me go.

00:29:12 Speaker_09
Let me go vote. Yeah, I mean, they give Christopher Columbus as a holiday, dude. The Lieutenant Dan of the 1400s. That dude gets a fucking holiday, okay?

00:29:22 Speaker_06
Yeah, why don't you go read what that guy did? Let's get rid of Christopher Columbus. They trained to indigenous people's day like and the indigenous people like thanks after you wiped out 90% of us Thanks for giving us a day.

00:29:34 Speaker_06
How about we keep that day? That's fine. But how about we have an election? National election holiday we could do it one more holiday Celebrate it.

00:29:42 Speaker_09
It's a great day people can rejoice and then I count. Yep. It would take a lot of stress off people, too It's like today's also a day of celebration. It's not this day that I have to sneak away from work and And be sneaky or whatever.

00:29:54 Speaker_06
You should have a paid holiday. You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day that election comes because everybody should be able to go vote. That's what it should be. We'll talk to Trump about it. Making a nationally mandated holiday.

00:30:09 Speaker_09
I don't have his number. I don't know. I mean, there's a guy in his department. I have his number. We could hook it up.

00:30:15 Speaker_04
I know some people.

00:30:17 Speaker_09
Um, yeah, dude, it was just what I mean, just like what a crazy week.

00:30:22 Speaker_06
Yeah, very crazy. What? Well, you were one of the first guys to have them on the podcast. Did you have any hesitancy having them on at all? Um,

00:30:33 Speaker_09
my brother actually my brother's my brother's a lot smarter than me and he said hey man I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on right like you could people some people could be upset about it right you know and I thought about that a little bit and I was like well I don't really

00:30:55 Speaker_09
like I like I Don't know you know like I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that And it's like it's hard to find a group that really embodies them and if anything right now for me It seems like I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties It doesn't see like this isn't Democrats and Republicans.

00:31:14 Speaker_09
There's something else trans morphing right now yeah, and so um I thought like I thought, well, I think I'm, I just want to be able to have a chance to talk to this guy, you know?

00:31:27 Speaker_09
And the main thing for me was like, um, like you talked about Dana White earlier, he's really, uh, you know, I know that you guys work together and he, You know, I knew that Trump's brother suffered from addiction, right? I knew that, right?

00:31:43 Speaker_09
I heard that or something and I looked into it and it's like, okay, he lost his brother, his brother died of addiction. So I was like, well, that's interesting to me, you know?

00:31:52 Speaker_09
And I wish that people, I wonder if there's more to Donald Trump, like is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, try to get an emotional well, like more of an emotional well to him than it seems like that's in the public.

00:32:06 Speaker_06
Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people. This was the idea. Like, if you had on a guy like Trump, you were platforming this bad person. This was this thing.

00:32:19 Speaker_09
Yeah, I didn't think about that at all.

00:32:20 Speaker_06
But it's an authoritarian way to regulate conversations that let you know more about people. And it's stupid because people don't want to have a nuanced perspective on anybody. Look, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris.

00:32:35 Speaker_06
I'm like, I bet there's a person in there. I bet I can get to that person. Yeah. I wanted to find that person. I don't want to hear all the speeches. I don't want to hear, I was raised middle class. I don't want to hear any of that shit.

00:32:44 Speaker_09
She's a roller skater, you know that? No, I would love to find that out.

00:32:47 Speaker_06
Yeah. I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit. I literally said, because there was a few restrictions of things that I didn't want to talk about, but I said, I don't give a fuck. I'll go get her in here. Whatever you want to talk about.

00:32:59 Speaker_06
And they want to know if I edit. Yeah, we're not gonna edit but Yeah, that's the same thing.

00:33:06 Speaker_09
They asked us. Is there an edit?

00:33:08 Speaker_06
You know, I just wanted to talk I just like I feel like you give someone a couple of hours And you start talking about anything. I'm gonna see the pattern of the way you think I'm gonna see the way you process ideas

00:33:22 Speaker_06
I'm going to see whether or not you're calculated or whether you're just free. Or are you comfortable with you? Or are you projecting things? She's got 80 different accents. How do you decide which one to pull out?

00:33:35 Speaker_06
She busts out different accents depending on who she's talking to. They should have maybe talked to a bunch of Chinese folks. I would have loved to hear that accent.

00:33:44 Speaker_04
I want to see what... I do that too, though.

00:33:46 Speaker_09
I like to meet people where they're at. Sure. If I see somebody, I'll be like, what's happening, my friend? I like to meet people where they are.

00:33:55 Speaker_06
Yeah, she did one with Latinos where she talked with a Latino accent. I'm like, this is wild. But she's a chameleon. But if you want to be a successful politician, that's probably a good trait.

00:34:05 Speaker_10
I agree.

00:34:06 Speaker_06
It's like a comedian that's always on. They kind of get annoying. But if you want to be a comedian, that's probably a good trait.

00:34:13 Speaker_06
Want to be a politician, you should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of meld yourself with whatever these people want you to be.

00:34:20 Speaker_10
Yeah.

00:34:21 Speaker_06
Yeah. I mean, maybe not. Maybe it's just like the I always feel like The environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake.

00:34:34 Speaker_06
It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is. So like when I got to see Trump on your podcast and you were talking about doing cocaine and it makes you like an owl.

00:34:46 Speaker_08
Oh God.

00:34:48 Speaker_06
It was hilarious. It was hilarious. But it was like, you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out like, who is this psycho I'm sitting here talking to?

00:34:58 Speaker_09
I remember that shit. I'll fucking make a nest in my living room, dude. That shit, boy. I'll scoot over to the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak, homie. There's nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine, man.

00:35:12 Speaker_06
I can only imagine. You talking to him as a person is almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does. Because when he's in front of everybody, talking about we're going to make America amazing, those are great speeches.

00:35:28 Speaker_06
But you don't, like she had an amazing speech. When I was like she could win was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like scared to debate her, but he says all these things. But you know what I always heard?

00:35:39 Speaker_06
If you want to say something, say it to my face. And the whole place went crazy. And she was laughing. I didn't see that. Oh, it was so good. It was her best speech for sure. And it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president.

00:35:53 Speaker_09
Maybe that is what got people involved.

00:35:55 Speaker_06
Biden stepped down and she had one banger of a speech. She looked young and energetic and like it really made you feel like this is going to be a... She was hot. She was younger. She was a smoke show.

00:36:09 Speaker_09
She's still alright. She got that thang on her I bet. You know what I'm saying?

00:36:16 Speaker_06
I do know what you're saying. That's why it's so crazy.

00:36:18 Speaker_09
Because a lot of brothers love her, too. Everybody seems to love her. Look, if the brothers like it, she got that thang on her. That's all I'm saying, you know?

00:36:24 Speaker_06
I understand what you're saying. But, like, that one speech was almost enough for her to win. And if she just didn't talk other than speeches,

00:36:34 Speaker_06
But they would have done they needed to do a better job of the speeches because every speech was the same And the problem with that is we were talking about there's like the internet you get to see that speech over and over again Online like and then people make compilations of speech and write in the same thing, but it's like if someone goes to see your act

00:36:49 Speaker_06
You know, they don't understand, like, acts, like, to develop a bit, it takes months and months and months to really, like, put it together where it's, like, rock solid. And you're gonna do it the same way or slightly different every night.

00:37:00 Speaker_05
And if someone comes to see you and goes, Theo's so full of shit, man, he told us the other day that it was just the other day. But meanwhile, he said it three weeks later. It wasn't just the other day. It was three fucking weeks ago, dude.

00:37:14 Speaker_05
You're repeating the same shit.

00:37:16 Speaker_09
Yeah, you got too many leap years, white boy.

00:37:18 Speaker_06
Yeah, shit like that. Exactly. So that's what they feel about a presidential candidate that's telling the same speech over and over. Well, hey, you're not supposed to go see all those speeches. But yeah.

00:37:29 Speaker_09
You know? But the thing is about Trump- Yeah, you're not following the Grateful Dead here. Trump rambles. Trump has a lot, though. Trump has a lot that are repetitive.

00:37:36 Speaker_06
He does, but not in the same order. It's like going to see a Grateful Dead show. It's like, fuck, it's all over the place. When Trump gets out there, he just does tugging. Did you see? He had this long-winded speech about the rocket.

00:37:52 Speaker_06
That was insane, dude. I'm like, you just won the president's heat. Edit. Edit that down. You can edit that down. That could be two minutes. Beautiful arms.

00:38:01 Speaker_06
I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking when he was talking about Lincoln's bedroom. I was like, oh boy, where is this going?

00:38:10 Speaker_09
I've been to Lincoln's bedroom. How was it? Uh, it was okay. I think you can bring it up, actually. It's in Springfield, Illinois.

00:38:17 Speaker_06
Oh, it is? No, he was talking about the one that's in the White House.

00:38:20 Speaker_09
Oh, no, I've been to just his child, um, before he got elected.

00:38:23 Speaker_06
Why don't you go to his childhood home?

00:38:25 Speaker_09
Oh, wow. It's really interesting. He used to keep his notes in his hat.

00:38:28 Speaker_06
That was a good move pretty cool big-ass hats back that head wallet, baby.

00:38:32 Speaker_09
He had that move.

00:38:33 Speaker_06
Yeah, it's like credit cards behind your phone Except if you lose your phone you lose everything you ain't losing that big-ass hat Crazy man you ever see like how many dudes wore like fancy hats back in the day that shit just went away Imagine if you were a kid and you're growing up in a hat family.

00:38:54 Speaker_06
You're like our family makes hats, bro. I'm balling forever

00:38:57 Speaker_06
I'm gonna take over this business and then no hats if you watch there's a great outside boxing match in Reno, Nevada between Jack Johnson and I think it's Jim Jeffries and I think this is Jim Jeffries.

00:39:16 Speaker_06
Yes, not that guy another one not it's not that not the comedian and

00:39:21 Speaker_09
Now I'm talking about the murderer.

00:39:23 Speaker_06
No. Maybe. I don't think so. I think he's just a boxer.

00:39:26 Speaker_09
Who was it?

00:39:27 Speaker_06
James Jeffries. So see if Jack Johnson versus... this is it. Who killed the people with that Kool-Aid or whatever? There's a video of all these folks that are walking to the event and every man has a fucking hat on, dude. Look, they all have hats.

00:39:44 Speaker_06
Look, they all have fancy hats. Look at all these guys. They're taking off their hats, waving their hats. Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this. Wow. Dude, they all have these fancy hats. What happened?

00:39:56 Speaker_06
They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats. First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention with that many people in the streets dressed up in suits. That's true. That's it.

00:40:06 Speaker_06
That's the only time you're ever going to see this. These are like regular men walking on the streets. Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button-up shirt and a suit jacket. That's Jim Jeffries right there.

00:40:17 Speaker_08
Oh, those guys are good, dude.

00:40:19 Speaker_06
James J. Braddock. That's John L. Sullivan.

00:40:22 Speaker_09
No way.

00:40:23 Speaker_06
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the guy from Monopoly, too, right there. He was a bare-knuckle boxer back in the diz-ay. And he was still famous back then.

00:40:33 Speaker_09
Wow, look at him putting it all together. That's so cool.

00:40:35 Speaker_06
Isn't that cool? So they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jefferies. That's how it goes. Jim Jeffries was trying to make a comeback. He was a little bit older. Back then, bro, boxing would go until someone died.

00:40:49 Speaker_06
Yeah. They would have, I mean, what's the most rounds they had back then? They were crazy. It was like 80 rounds or something. Like, what's the longest old school boxing match ever, Jamie? I think they had some insane amount of rounds.

00:41:05 Speaker_09
That's a good question.

00:41:06 Speaker_06
Look at this. The greatest number of rounds was 276. Wow. in a 4 hour and 30 minute fight when Jack Jones beat Patsy Tunney and Cheshire in 1825. Holy fuck, dude. Introduced in 1867, each round of a fight would last until someone was knocked down.

00:41:33 Speaker_06
Bro, bro, 276 rounds is so crazy. That's when you get all your CTE in an IV bag. You don't have to swallow vitamins. You just get your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain.

00:41:52 Speaker_03
I'm just joking, Brendan.

00:41:54 Speaker_06
Oh my God. At New Orleans, that's where it was. In 18, well he lived to 94, he lived to 1867. Oh, these are when they died. Oh, because 1893. It lasted a hundred and ten rounds. Oh my god. Seven hours and 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest.

00:42:14 Speaker_06
Later changed to a draw. Dude, most people couldn't go that long without even looking at their phone, dude. Much less having to fend off a guy. How about having to take a shit? You're in the middle of a 200 round fight. You have to take a shit.

00:42:29 Speaker_09
They should have a diaper round we have to fight and shit at the same time.

00:42:33 Speaker_06
I would bet it affect your punching power if you just waddle around and shit. Of course.

00:42:36 Speaker_09
Dude, I don't think there's a way you can shit and punch at the same time.

00:42:39 Speaker_06
It would be very hard.

00:42:40 Speaker_09
Look that up. Very hard. Because yeah, think about it. Yeah.

00:42:47 Speaker_06
It would be so soft. You need to tighten all that up if you're going to throw a good punch. Like your ass cheeks tighten because you kind of use your legs as you thrust forward. You really can't shit and punch not effectively.

00:42:59 Speaker_06
You're gonna lose that round.

00:43:00 Speaker_02
Yeah, we cracked the code, bro.

00:43:01 Speaker_06
Yeah, we cracked the code. You're gonna lose that round. So I guess they probably just pissed themselves. I know guys who shit themselves in the UFC. Multiple guys, yeah. Well, that breaks my heart. I believe Tim Sylvia shit himself in a fight once.

00:43:14 Speaker_06
Who else? Someone came out there. Michael Chiesa looked over at me once while I was doing commentary. And I think he got called.

00:43:23 Speaker_06
It was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker so he didn't get as much warm-up time as he wanted. And then all of a sudden he's running out there and he looked at me and he goes, dude, I'm about to shit my pants.

00:43:33 Speaker_06
I go, really? He goes, yeah, I'm about to shit my pants. And he won. He went out there and won first round submission. Because he had to. Is this the fight? Is this another guy who shit his pants? Five fighters who pooped their shorts.

00:43:47 Speaker_06
Yeah, it happens, dude. This guy shit himself a little bit. Dude, I would shit myself if I had to go in there.

00:43:53 Speaker_09
So that's crazy.

00:43:54 Speaker_06
Tim Sylvia definitely shit himself. Randleman shit himself? It happens, man.

00:43:58 Speaker_09
Look, you're getting your liver pounded on, you're getting need in the guts. Oh, I got in a car accident once and it happened. You shit yourself? I didn't want to. I didn't have a choice. It just happened. It wanted to.

00:44:11 Speaker_06
She shit her pants, too. Justine Kitsch, congratulations. I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that on OnlyFans. You sell them shitty drawers. And that's Mark Goddard right there. Call time out, brother. Oh, is that what it is? That's the poop? Oh, no.

00:44:28 Speaker_06
Imagine if you're face down, if someone's putting you in a rear naked choke and they didn't clean the mats that good and the person before shit all over the place. You get pink eye while you're getting your ass kicked.

00:44:41 Speaker_09
God, that makes me scared.

00:44:42 Speaker_06
Yeah, that's a scary job. That's the scariest job. You think?

00:44:45 Speaker_09
Yeah, I went to that fight with you. Or no, I went to that fight, remember when me and Joey Diaz went? Which one? In New York. Oh, it was, oh, I was thinking of your fighters.

00:44:54 Speaker_09
Well, I went and saw the James J. Braddock statue before, it was in New Jersey, before Dustin and, um... That last fight that he had. No, the one before the last fight. Justin Gaethje? No, after that. It was in New Jersey.

00:45:13 Speaker_06
Yeah, Benoit Saint-Denis. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Was it? Yeah, he beat up Benoit Saint-Denis and knocked him out.

00:45:23 Speaker_09
That was after he lost his mom was in Jersey, which one was in Jersey Islam He didn't beat he didn't beat him Islam in Jersey, right, right So he fought Ben was in Deni then he gets a title shot against Islam Yeah, we went I went with Joey we said I went to the arm James J Braddock statue before mmm It was awesome dude.

00:45:41 Speaker_09
His arms a monster. He's so good. Yeah, it was crazy and Joey was like, what do I dude? He was a This is all love, dude. He's so fucking tremendous. He's one of a kind. And his book is great, too, if you haven't read his book.

00:45:58 Speaker_09
But he's sitting there, he'd been eating mushrooms, you know? And once he even started eating a little, you could see Aaron Rodgers start to look over, you know? He was getting curious.

00:46:07 Speaker_07
That's hilarious.

00:46:08 Speaker_09
You know, he's like, what is happening, you know?

00:46:10 Speaker_07
That's hilarious.

00:46:10 Speaker_09
But by the sixth quarter or whatever, I don't know how the fights go, but it's like, by the sixth quarter, he's just rubbing on his thighs, right? He's fucking... He goes, who's winning, dawg? That's what he kept saying to me, dude.

00:46:22 Speaker_09
Oh, I can't wait to see him again. Joey used to shovel snow for James J. Braddock.

00:46:28 Speaker_06
Did he really?

00:46:29 Speaker_09
Yeah.

00:46:30 Speaker_06
Wow. That's crazy.

00:46:32 Speaker_09
One of my favorite things that I ever learned about him.

00:46:34 Speaker_06
That's crazy.

00:46:35 Speaker_09
Can you imagine that?

00:46:37 Speaker_06
That is crazy.

00:46:41 Speaker_09
What else is going on?

00:46:47 Speaker_06
I'm going to see him in a couple of weeks. He's coming out here. Joey is going to start staying out here for months at a time. He wants to get a place downtown in a club.

00:46:56 Speaker_09
Me too, I'm gonna come back and look in about a week and a half.

00:46:57 Speaker_06
Every time he comes, he's like, I gotta come out here, dawg. I'm like, come on, we'll make it easy for you. I'm like, we'll make it easy for you.

00:47:03 Speaker_06
You tell me when you wanna come, we'll fly you out, put you up, whatever you want, I'll get you a real estate lady, let's get the party started. And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now.

00:47:13 Speaker_06
Because him and Lee Syatt, they were together when they were at the club together, and I'm like, come on, let's get the band back together. You guys together were fucking amazing.

00:47:21 Speaker_09
There was nothing like, that show kept people alive.

00:47:23 Speaker_06
That show, Joey Diaz's show, was one of the most ridiculous, silly, preposterous shows. It was so ridiculous. And then he went to New Jersey, and here's the problem with Joey in New Jersey. He loves New Jersey.

00:47:38 Speaker_06
He loves New Jersey people He needs comedians and you you forget that until you're not with them and then you're like, oh this ain't no fun Yeah, just talking to plumbers or whoever's got a decent attitude or whatever, you know decent sense of humor I like talking to all kinds of people Yeah, obviously, but I need comedians in my life Like I need vitamins like I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin D. I need I need comedians it's too like that night that we had in that green room and

00:48:04 Speaker_06
Watching the elections how many jokes were crack how many fucking times we rag on Tony? Oh, dude. We talked tody off the ledge. We did it Tony's like got statistics 26 more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump

00:48:19 Speaker_09
Bro, he had the Puerto Rican app open on his whoop bracelet. I'm like, they have that? What is that? He was like, how many plantains have sold tonight? He was fucking losing his mind.

00:48:31 Speaker_06
They tried to label him as a speaker. They said he was a speaker. A speaker? That was at the Trump rally? He said that Puerto Rico was a pile of garbage. These are human beings.

00:48:45 Speaker_09
Was that Adam Wright?

00:48:46 Speaker_06
No, no, no. That's Obama.

00:48:48 Speaker_09
Oh, it is?

00:48:48 Speaker_05
A speaker that was at the Trump rally? He was talking about Puerto Rico as a pile of garbage.

00:48:56 Speaker_06
Dude, the simple fact that Obama's talking about Tony Hinchcliffe is crazy. Bro, Obama's doing a Tony Hinchcliffe bit. There's a video of us at the Mothership.

00:49:09 Speaker_04
What is going on?

00:49:10 Speaker_06
We played it yesterday, but I want to play it again, Jamie. Play the video, it's on my Instagram, of Tony is on stage in the main room. By the way, Tony goes on stage, it's like Richard Pryor just showed up. They were going nuts. He murdered.

00:49:24 Speaker_06
He has 35 minutes on it. He's on stage.

00:49:32 Speaker_01
no way at the same time same time yeah we're definitely in a simulation my god so this guy was on fox talking about tony on one tv while tony was on stage on the tv monitor

00:49:54 Speaker_09
That's unbelievable.

00:49:56 Speaker_06
We did it. He was so nervous because here's what was going to happen. If he lost, you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories. If Kamala wins, they have out outlines for stories.

00:50:12 Speaker_06
If Trump wins, if if Trump lost, they were going to blame it on Tony. Mm hmm.

00:50:18 Speaker_06
They had stories where they're going to blame it on that joke and they were going to say that that joke turned the tides and made people realize that Trump organizations filled with Nazis and racists and they were going to blame Tony and Tony would have been fucked because then the Trump supporters would have thought that too.

00:50:32 Speaker_09
Right. So it was like both sides would have disliked Tony.

00:50:35 Speaker_06
Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:50:37 Speaker_06
He would had to go to Puerto Rico or no Costa Rica, maybe Mexico Mexico's in Mexico and Puerto Ricans don't really Know they don't even they don't get along that was in fighting There's always been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans and a lot of really yeah.

00:50:52 Speaker_06
Yeah. Oh, yeah, man for sure I didn't know that Well, you know, there's no prouder group of boxers, I think, in the history of Earth than Mexican boxers. Oh, yeah. Mexican boxers are known for a specific style.

00:51:06 Speaker_06
Like if someone says, you fight like a Mexican, dude, that's a huge compliment.

00:51:11 Speaker_10
Yeah.

00:51:12 Speaker_06
Mexicans like Julio Cesar Chavez, you know, fucking Canelo Alvarez, Oscar De La Hoya, you can go down the line. Morales, fuck, man, there's so many. Manuel Marquez, so many, man. So many.

00:51:28 Speaker_09
Yeah, they got just so many punches in one punch.

00:51:31 Speaker_06
Well, there's a culture of boxing there that goes back so far. With boxing, it's always people that are poor that want a way out. And one of the best ways out, if you're a poor young man, if you can fight, you can make millions.

00:51:47 Speaker_06
Like Canelo, like Julio Cesar Chavez. So it's like the history of people rising through boxing. But there's a similar history in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a history, a great history of boxing too. Really?

00:52:00 Speaker_06
But there was always a rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico.

00:52:03 Speaker_09
I could see that because you're both Latino cultures and you want to be the best, you know?

00:52:07 Speaker_06
Oh yeah.

00:52:07 Speaker_09
I'm trying to think if I've ever been to a boxing match or not.

00:52:11 Speaker_06
You should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. Might be the last boxing match ever.

00:52:15 Speaker_09
I don't know if I want to see it.

00:52:18 Speaker_06
Do you want to see it if Mike Tyson wins?

00:52:20 Speaker_09
I remember watching Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr.

00:52:23 Speaker_06
Yeah.

00:52:24 Speaker_09
And it was like two guys beating each other up in baby diapers or whatever. Baby diapers? Yeah, bring it up. They were wearing big diapers or whatever.

00:52:32 Speaker_06
No, they were wearing cups. There's a protector that boxers wear that's different than the protector that MMA fighters wear. So the protector that boxers wear is foam that covers the front of your hips and things too.

00:52:44 Speaker_09
Maybe I'm not thinking about it. Maybe I'm thinking about something else then. But it just, they kept hugging.

00:52:50 Speaker_06
This is what I believe. I believe really truly to my core that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson was only going to hit him to the body full blast. It looked like every time he hit him to the head he was kind of pulling back.

00:53:01 Speaker_09
It just didn't seem like, this didn't seem like a real fight.

00:53:05 Speaker_06
It seemed like a fight to the body, though. Mike was hitting him to the body really hard, and I think he hurt Roy a bunch of times really hard to the body. But, you know, both of these men are 50.

00:53:14 Speaker_06
Roy, in his day, I maintain to this day, was the greatest boxer I've ever seen.

00:53:19 Speaker_10
Wow.

00:53:19 Speaker_06
Roy Jones, in his prime, was a freak. Like, I mean a freak, where he wouldn't even throw jabs. He would throw a lead left hook.

00:53:29 Speaker_06
He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab and people couldn't understand it Yeah, you'd never been in a ring with someone that fast Julie Roy Jones highlight reel of chaos your watch like Roy Jones news in his prime.

00:53:42 Speaker_06
Oh, they were execution son It was like Mike Tyson in his prime, but a different thing in fact in a Nas song Nas says the the new Mike Tyson's Roy Jones Wow Roy Jones was just executing people. He was so much faster than anybody.

00:53:56 Speaker_06
His timing was so good.

00:53:58 Speaker_09
He was a sniper.

00:53:59 Speaker_06
Oh my God. He was just so skillful.

00:54:01 Speaker_09
Who would you rather knock you unconscious, you think, if you had to pick a good fighter?

00:54:05 Speaker_06
Oh, I don't know, maybe Roy would just put it out quick, just pop you on the chin and you'd be like, okay.

00:54:09 Speaker_09
Roy or Conor, though?

00:54:10 Speaker_06
Both of them would knock you out quick. You think? Yeah. And this is this one fight with Roy Jones with Vinny Pazienza. It was the only fight in CompuBox history where the opponent didn't land a single punch. Wow. A single punch.

00:54:23 Speaker_06
This was like when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight. Before that, Roy signaled to the referee, stop the fight. And the referee said no, and then Roy goes like this. He's like looking at Vinny, sorry, I gotta do this.

00:54:34 Speaker_06
I've never even seen that. He just lights it up. Bro, he was so good in his prime. But like all fighters, they stay past their prime, and people really only remember them for when they lost.

00:54:46 Speaker_06
You know, Roy in his prime was just something completely special.

00:54:50 Speaker_09
He had an Allen Iverson vibe.

00:54:52 Speaker_06
You went to watch him just to see how long guys would last. That's what you would watch, to see what he would do to guys.

00:54:58 Speaker_09
I did a fishing rodeo with him once.

00:55:00 Speaker_06
Did you really? Yeah. He's a big fisherman. He dropped his hands, put them behind his back, and knocked a guy out. Like, lured the guy in and hit him with one straight right hand and dropped him.

00:55:11 Speaker_06
It was one of the... He would just, like, be toying with dudes.

00:55:14 Speaker_09
That's crazy, dude. I can't even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body and this guy's doing this shit? That's what blows my mind, dude.

00:55:22 Speaker_06
Roy was so good. He was so good. And everybody that went in there... He cooked that brother right there. There's a thing that happens when a guy's gonna fight. Like, you would see it with Anderson Silva and his brother. Who is that, Bill Cartwright?

00:55:32 Speaker_06
Who's he fighting? I don't know. Some dude is in real trouble. They should have stopped this fight already. That dude did not need to take those other two punches. Dude, he was so fast.

00:55:45 Speaker_09
Yeah, dude. Tony was... Tony was... He was terrified.

00:55:50 Speaker_02
Who's terrified? Tony was terrified.

00:55:51 Speaker_09
Right when I walked in, I hadn't seen him in months. I'm just fucking grilling him. I'm like, there he is. I'm like, who's an island now? That's what I said. He's fuckin' sittin' there.

00:56:03 Speaker_05
Who's an island now? Did you really say that to him?

00:56:06 Speaker_09
Yeah. And here's the best thing about Tony, though. He laughed. Tony is for the joke, right? Oh, yeah. Even if he's going through it, he respects the joke.

00:56:15 Speaker_06
Always, always.

00:56:17 Speaker_09
There's many layers to that whole thing. Tony is who he is, and you respect that to the core. Was it the best timing? Probably not, right? No. Was there a lot of supervision over what he said?

00:56:30 Speaker_06
No. Probably not. But that just shows how disorganized that meeting was.

00:56:33 Speaker_09
It's disorganized, but it's also real. So it's like, there's two ways to look at it. It's like, it's yes, it's like nobody proofread it.

00:56:41 Speaker_06
Let me clear something there, because we did say that they went over his material. They didn't. They did not go over his material. They did. Someone suggested he take one joke out.

00:56:52 Speaker_06
So he took this one joke out, and he's like, oh, what do I put in its place? He decided to go with the Puerto Rico joke.

00:57:03 Speaker_09
We did it Yeah, he's just so silly, but he's the guy but he laughs at himself. Oh totally, but also he's It's weird cuz it's like do you want things to be tailored? Do you not want him to be tailored? You know?

00:57:18 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's like you could have you could have a group that goes through every every single joke and says no to everything right and then you get nothing and

00:57:25 Speaker_09
You get you know what I'm saying kind of it's like how many layers of um like uh when you drain spaghetti or whatever I'm talking about like how many layers of spaghetti nah shit I don't know. It's been a long year.

00:57:43 Speaker_06
I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But I think when you get to a certain level of your career, you got to say no to things that are outside of comedy. Yeah.

00:57:50 Speaker_06
If you're just coming up and someone says you want to go speak in front of the president, go out there. Make a mark, soldier. Give it your best.

00:57:57 Speaker_06
But if you're Tony Hinchcliffe and you just did the Tom Brady roast, Kill Tony is the number one comedy podcast in the world. You have millions and millions of downloads every week. Don't do that. Just do comedy you're really good.

00:58:10 Speaker_06
I just was trying to tell people if you saw those same jokes on stage He kills fucking crushes. It's just the worst environment ever for it lights are bright. It's in the day Yeah, no one knows a comedian. He goes up cold.

00:58:23 Speaker_06
No one goes on after him There's like his big-ass paws after him the whole thing was like organized terribly terribly Oh, it's complete disorganization.

00:58:31 Speaker_06
It was like there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing They what do we do with all the extra time like let anybody talk who wants to talk this guy owns a fucking sandwich shop Let him come up there Yeah, look.

00:58:41 Speaker_06
It's my friend Giovanni like anybody in there.

00:58:44 Speaker_06
They were letting people that were saying wild stuff, too Oh, they were letting anybody in there, and it didn't seem like they vetted a lot of the speeches some of the speeches like 40 minutes of ASMR in there they were fucking letting people do anything

00:58:57 Speaker_06
Whenever you get an organization whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats you got to kind of like appease everybody and you got Psychos and moderate people and they're all together under this one banner of this one Like have you ever been enough sports team?

00:59:10 Speaker_06
You just always like one dude on the team. That's a fucking psychopath, right? Oh, yeah, dude, don't cause any fights like leave everybody alone. Let's go. Come on.

00:59:17 Speaker_09
We had a brother He was slash everybody's tires, but then here's the thing. We were giving him a ride home So it's like well now we're off But that's who he was. You had to respect him. He was a power forward, you know?

00:59:29 Speaker_06
Yeah. Well, sometimes they're not making the best decisions. People don't, man. People don't, man. Especially football players, bro. You get hit in the head a lot, you're gonna make some sketchy-ass decisions.

00:59:41 Speaker_09
Nick Bosa got brave and shared his political thoughts the other night. You see that? No, I didn't. Well, it's just crazy how on mainstream stuff, if you share anything one way, it's okay, but you share something another way, it's not okay.

00:59:54 Speaker_06
Right. Nobody got angry at people. They made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris. We made fun of Dave Bautista because it looked just so silly. performative commercial where it's really important to vote for Kamala and Tim Walz. Is he Minuta?

01:00:12 Speaker_06
The wrestler. The guy from Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay. You know what I'm talking about. Big Jack dude. He's trying to get movies, man. He's wearing pearls to like red carpet events. I know what you're doing. You're trying to get those movies.

01:00:24 Speaker_06
You're an artist you're sensitive you're on the right side put him in the he wants to be a lead in a movie Once be a movie star didn't fucking turn on your camera at a house and make something dude I'm telling you it's the right move what he's doing is the right move even if he's faking it you mean for Hollywood you mean Yeah, yeah, yeah, where the beads where the where pearls that softens you up a little bit lose some weight lost a bunch of weight

01:00:47 Speaker_06
Talk shit about Trump. He's allowed to be like a tough guy talking shit about Trump. Do you ever see that Jimmy Kimmel sketch? They did we called Trump a whiny bitch and you ever seen it or Jimmy Kimmel called Donald Trump.

01:00:55 Speaker_09
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:01:01 Speaker_06
Find it cuz it's kind of funny.

01:01:02 Speaker_09
Is he the intercontinental champion?

01:01:04 Speaker_06
I don't even a big-time wrestler was a giant dude like fucking built like a superhero and Then he went did Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, yeah with Chris Pratt.

01:01:14 Speaker_06
Yeah, he's a big giant wrestler Yes, now I know you're talking about but he's wants to be a movie star. So he's losing some weight He's a good actor too, man. He was good in that What was that movie the glass? The Glass Onion.

01:01:30 Speaker_06
Yeah, that was a great movie. He was really good in that.

01:01:33 Speaker_09
I'm trying to think of what I've seen in this movie.

01:01:35 Speaker_06
If you're a big, giant dude, and you're a big, muscle-bound, giant dude, and you want to do serious roles, you kind of got to lose some weight. And you kind of got to support Kamala Harris. You kind of got to wear pearls.

01:01:48 Speaker_06
You kind of got to soften your stance. be performative that you're the guy that they would want to pick, because that's like part of the battle. Here, let me get this.

01:01:58 Speaker_00
Oh, that's him?

01:01:59 Speaker_06
Yeah. I thought that was Eddie Bravo, dude.

01:02:01 Speaker_00
Donald Trump is some kind of tough guy. He's not. I mean, look at him. He wears more makeup than Dolly Parton. He whines like a baby. The guy's afraid of birds. Donald Trump had his daddy pay a doctor to say his will feet hurt so he could dodge the draft.

01:02:21 Speaker_00
Look at that gut. It's like a garbage bag full of buttermilk. He sells imaginary baseball cards, pretending to be a cowboy fireman. Guy's barely strong enough to hold an umbrella. Well, he's working out.

01:02:36 Speaker_09
And where is this, at Jocko's gym?

01:02:39 Speaker_00
I don't know. Pink chickadee.

01:02:42 Speaker_09
That's pretty funny.

01:02:43 Speaker_00
He's got jugs. Big ones. Like Don Parton. He cheats at golf. He creeps around beauty pageant dressing rooms. You know that little dance he does?

01:02:55 Speaker_09
Yeah, he's a pervert, dude. Who isn't a pervert?

01:03:00 Speaker_00
He's moody. He pouts. He throws tantrums. No! Get those lights off! He acts like a five-year-old behind the wheel of a truck. He bends over for Putin. I don't watch this kind of stuff. Look at this! The punches! Isn't it past your jail time?

01:03:42 Speaker_00
Mostly, he's terrified that real red-blooded American men will find out that he's a weak tubby toddler Mommy, take me home, mommy, I wanna go home Don't you know a tough guy? See him grab you by the p***y

01:03:57 Speaker_09
That closing line is pretty tough.

01:03:59 Speaker_06
That's not bad.

01:03:59 Speaker_09
He called him a bitch.

01:04:01 Speaker_06
But it's like, you know what he's doing. Yeah. Trying to become a movie star. It's a good move. But the Hollywood liberals 100% love that.

01:04:10 Speaker_09
Well, Hollywood's just crazy to me, dude. I just don't understand it. It seems like they hate white men.

01:04:18 Speaker_06
Well, some people do. that work in Hollywood, I'm sure, don't like white men. But that's the thing about woke culture. It's like there's a hierarchy of the injustices that you have faced.

01:04:30 Speaker_06
White men, even if it's not you, which is where it gets prejudiced, because if it's not you, white men over history have caused the most grief. They've caused the most trouble. They've been responsible for the most injustices in this country, at least.

01:04:43 Speaker_06
You know, slavery, redline laws, bringing the Chinese... Other people helped with slavery.

01:04:49 Speaker_09
Let's don't just pin the tail on the honky-donky.

01:04:52 Speaker_06
Right. But in America, slaves were exclusively owned by white people. Undeniably. In other countries, they're owned by all kinds of people. This is where it gets weird.

01:05:01 Speaker_09
See, that's what we got to do then.

01:05:02 Speaker_06
What people don't understand is there's more slaves today than there have ever been. More slaves today than there were before 1865 when slavery was abolished in America.

01:05:12 Speaker_10
You're lying.

01:05:12 Speaker_06
Nope. There's more slaves. In Libya, when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Gaddafi on television, did you ever see that?

01:05:21 Speaker_06
I didn't know one of the most terrifying channel was it on C-SPAN But Libya became for a while became like a failed state and at one point in time there were slave auctions In Libya that you could watch on YouTube, okay?

01:05:37 Speaker_06
How crazy is that like Google googled the actual numbers? Oh my god? Oh? Yeah, that's a real statistic. And this is also one of the things that people are terrified about with this border deal.

01:05:49 Speaker_06
Because one of the things about the border, it's not as simple as people coming over and they want a better life. Of course. But it's also people being exploited. And there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing.

01:06:02 Speaker_06
Who knows if they've been smuggled into child trafficking. There's, who knows how many people have been, okay, hold on a second. It says estimates range from about 38 to 49.6 million people are slaves today.

01:06:19 Speaker_06
The number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to determine. Estimates range from 38 to 49 million. What? Uh-huh. Yeah.

01:06:28 Speaker_09
Oh my God. I didn't have any clue.

01:06:32 Speaker_06
Well, you have to include people that can't leave, even if they're not in cages. People that are trapped, right?

01:06:39 Speaker_09
Like Gaza people, you mean?

01:06:40 Speaker_06
Well, no. I would talk like people that work in coal mines or cobalt mines in the Congo. They're essentially slaves. I mean, they give them the minimal amount of food and water, they work in horrific conditions, and they live in complete abject poverty.

01:06:55 Speaker_09
But they're treated better than the people in Gaza, though.

01:06:58 Speaker_06
Perhaps. Well, they're all getting poison. They're all getting poison, pulling that cobalt out of the ground.

01:07:04 Speaker_09
Yeah, but still, they're getting lunch, I bet.

01:07:07 Speaker_06
Probably not a good lunch, I would imagine. Either way, yeah, you could find other spots that suck worse. But the point is, like, those people you could kind of consider slaves. And then there's real slavery.

01:07:20 Speaker_06
You know, this friend of mine was telling me about this place that was built in Jamaica, or the Bahamas. I think it was the Bahamas. And they brought in Chinese workers in this giant ship. And he said they had this patch of land.

01:07:38 Speaker_06
They put up a fence around the land. And all the Chinese workers lived on that land. And the Chinese workers built this resort there. And they worked nonstop, 24 hours a day. They built the whole thing in 18 months. They would just have shift after shift.

01:07:52 Speaker_06
And once it was completed, they took all the workers, put them back in the boat, put them right back to China. So, what was that? Was that slaves? That's slavery. I mean, it seems like slaves.

01:08:04 Speaker_06
It seems like unless they paid those people an exorbitant amount of money, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what the arrangement was.

01:08:10 Speaker_06
But they put a fence around the area, they brought people in a giant ship, and then they put them back in the ship and shipped them back to China.

01:08:17 Speaker_09
Well, look at Firefest. Remember Firefest or whatever? Yeah. What the fuck was that? That was a dude trying to make money. Right, but still, those people got carded over there. Yeah. Nothing to eat, nowhere to sleep.

01:08:29 Speaker_09
Definitely different than slavery, but still, it's like, yeah, it's like, it's funny, you think just because things happened a long time ago that it's not slavery today, right? Well, I wouldn't say that Fyre Festival is a form of slavery.

01:08:41 Speaker_03
Yes, I agree. Did you see Prop 6 in California? What is that? It's on the screen.

01:08:46 Speaker_06
Prop 6 prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude. And it did not pass. What? What? Wait a minute. What? In California?

01:08:56 Speaker_06
Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime.

01:09:06 Speaker_09
Because a lot of them gay producers trying to crank out them twinks, homie. That's why, bro. Keeping my slaves? Yeah, bro, they fight every now and then. How would you? Every now and then a freaking some twink fucking clambers out of an air vent.

01:09:18 Speaker_06
Oh, here it is. It's forced labor in prisons.

01:09:22 Speaker_03
Yeah, it has to do with carrying people to work in prisons and they have to fight the wildfires and stuff.

01:09:27 Speaker_06
Interesting so they want him to have to work Wow.

01:09:30 Speaker_03
I just don't want to pay.

01:09:32 Speaker_06
Yeah, that's wrong for you But that is what happened right that was what the Jim Crow laws were all about man Like what one of the things about slavery is slavery didn't end boom now. Let's give black people jobs and

01:09:45 Speaker_06
No, slavery ended and then there was this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything. And then they'd be forced to work and they had work camps. And so you were still the same thing.

01:09:59 Speaker_06
You could just get caught and you'd be a slave. You get a bad cop besides your speeding, whatever it is, you're a slave.

01:10:06 Speaker_09
Yeah. And they didn't have a car and you're like, you're speeding.

01:10:09 Speaker_06
Yeah, you're looking at people bad. You're verbally intimidating people, whatever the fuck it is. When someone wants to target you for something, you pissed off the wrong people, they fucking come after you with the law.

01:10:21 Speaker_06
And they can get you if they just decide that you shouldn't be free. There's an industry around slave labor, which there is. There's also an industry now around keeping people in prison, right? Because the prisons are private.

01:10:36 Speaker_06
So it's a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money. You get paid for them being there. Who gets paid? The private prison. There's contracts with the state. Like it's like a summer camp or something kind of thing?

01:10:50 Speaker_06
I don't know who gives the contracts. No.

01:10:53 Speaker_09
Prisons are owned by corporations. Okay, so prisons own corporations.

01:10:57 Speaker_06
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Prison is owned by a corporation. So it's a business.

01:11:02 Speaker_09
Okay.

01:11:03 Speaker_06
So they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books. One of them is marijuana. So the prison guard lobby They were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison.

01:11:16 Speaker_06
Because the more people in prison, the more jobs they have, the more hours they have, the better benefits they'll have, and the prison wants as many people in jail as possible. That is how they make money. Wow. Yeah. Who makes the money?

01:11:28 Speaker_06
It's not the government? No. Well, in some jails, but there's private prisons. What are the percentage of private prisons? I know we've looked this up, but I forget the number.

01:11:37 Speaker_09
Are they nicer?

01:11:37 Speaker_06
I don't think so.

01:11:39 Speaker_09
What about the Excalibur in Las Vegas? That place is a fucking private prison, dude. You ever been there?

01:11:46 Speaker_06
Dear God, bro. Bro, I heard Circus Circus is going down. That's the ultimate. Circus Circus is like, how is this place legal? Dude, that was the end of 2022. 8% of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons.

01:12:02 Speaker_06
What? Yep. Which is about 90,873 people. This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system, which is mostly public. Which, by the way, is even crazier. How about the fact that 90,000 people in jail is a small percentage? Wow.

01:12:18 Speaker_06
We have more people in jail than any other country. Do you know that?

01:12:21 Speaker_09
Yeah, and we need a few more in there, too, I think. To be honest, bro, freedom is, hey, some people can't handle freedom.

01:12:29 Speaker_06
Yeah, freedom ain't free.

01:12:30 Speaker_09
Freedom ain't free, man. What are you eating over there?

01:12:32 Speaker_06
A breaker.

01:12:33 Speaker_09
I need a hit of something, man. You want one of these?

01:12:36 Speaker_06
Huh?

01:12:36 Speaker_09
Oh, that's Zins or something? Yeah. Breakers? You scared of it? You have a vape on you? This is non-alcoholic. I have this. What is that?

01:12:43 Speaker_06
Bust out the smelling salts.

01:12:44 Speaker_09
I'll take a hit of anything, dude.

01:12:45 Speaker_06
You want a hit of that?

01:12:45 Speaker_09
I'm about to fucking jerk off just to get high, dude.

01:12:48 Speaker_06
What's going on, man? I need something. What's happening to you? It's been a long week, man. Anxious?

01:12:52 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's been a long year, man.

01:12:54 Speaker_06
Well, you're successful. You're handsome. I don't understand it. I don't understand it either. This one's so bad. It stinks. Does it?

01:13:02 Speaker_09
That's not the fishing bait one, is it?

01:13:06 Speaker_06
No, bro. This one is so strong. I haven't even opened this yet. Sniff it. It's not even open yet.

01:13:13 Speaker_09
Can't smell it.

01:13:14 Speaker_06
You can't smell that? You have COVID?

01:13:15 Speaker_09
Nope. I don't think so.

01:13:19 Speaker_06
Shout out to my friend John Reeves who gave me this knife. This knife is made with

01:13:23 Speaker_09
You got a vape in here still, man?

01:13:24 Speaker_06
No.

01:13:25 Speaker_09
Come on. BLM, dude. What you got, Jamie?

01:13:28 Speaker_06
What do you need, man? What's wrong with your vape?

01:13:30 Speaker_09
I just want to hit a nicotine. There's no nicotine in it.

01:13:32 Speaker_06
What are you doing with a vape with no nicotine? Just faking it?

01:13:35 Speaker_09
Yeah. Just trying to get through it all.

01:13:37 Speaker_06
Do you want a cigar, perhaps?

01:13:40 Speaker_09
It'll make me sick, I bet.

01:13:41 Speaker_06
Okay. I don't want you to get sick. Before I bust out these smelling salts, son. These are, oh my God.

01:13:48 Speaker_09
Tremendous. What round are we in?

01:13:50 Speaker_06
Oh boy.

01:13:51 Speaker_09
What round are we in, dog?

01:13:52 Speaker_06
Bro, this one I'm smelling from over there. Here we go.

01:13:55 Speaker_05
Oh my God.

01:13:56 Speaker_09
Come on, boy. I'll fucking ride that bitch, homie.

01:13:59 Speaker_05
Oh.

01:13:59 Speaker_09
Huh?

01:14:00 Speaker_05
Ooh. Bear back, huh? Ooh.

01:14:05 Speaker_09
N-words in Paris, baby.

01:14:06 Speaker_05
Get it, get it, get it. Let's get this, you feel me? Get it, get it. Oh, Lord, right? There's nothing like a fresh one.

01:14:15 Speaker_09
How many seconds did I do, man? That's PBR shit.

01:14:17 Speaker_05
You did it. You had a good haul. Let me get one more.

01:14:21 Speaker_06
One more. Sorry, man. Sorry. Don't be scared. I like it. I like it. Oh, Lord. Yeah, I can't leave you alone out there in two land. I got to get a dose in myself. Here you go.

01:14:33 Speaker_08
Oh, my God. Fuck, I just think I saw who won the Heisman. Oh my God. Bro, that shit made something happen to me.

01:14:46 Speaker_05
Those are so strong.

01:14:48 Speaker_08
Wow. I'm going to join women's sports. That was hot, bro.

01:14:54 Speaker_06
If every time you did this and you left here and you felt like you couldn't remember things well, would you still do it? Do that? Yeah. Yeah. If you would lose like a little bit of memory, like where's my keys? Nothing serious.

01:15:08 Speaker_06
Like you remember your name, you know, still remember your phone number, but you like.

01:15:13 Speaker_09
To do a little bit of a drug. It's a little it. Oh, yeah.

01:15:16 Speaker_04
Yeah.

01:15:16 Speaker_09
I mean one of my eyes just shut down. Yeah And I like it. It's like how far can we go?

01:15:22 Speaker_09
There's something about doing something It's like I think when you have addiction you want to do something that harms you, you know, you know what it is Yeah, you want to fucking because it's control. It's like I want to control how I feel.

01:15:32 Speaker_09
So even if how I feel isn't great The there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like if I have control over it then that's I

01:15:42 Speaker_06
It's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you, you know make any sense So if you have control like so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to kind of mitigate that You do a little bit of damage to yourself.

01:15:56 Speaker_06
So you have control over the damage Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel.

01:16:02 Speaker_09
So even if you feel damaged you still did it to yourself. There's like I Don't know man. I'm doing the worst job

01:16:08 Speaker_06
No, I know what you're saying. Self-destructive tendencies is a big part of addiction.

01:16:14 Speaker_09
Yeah, self-destructive. It's like, things feel so hectic right now, at least if I damage myself, then I'm the one doing it. I'm not just letting the world do it. In the moment, you don't see that that doesn't have any value.

01:16:31 Speaker_09
Afterwards you're like shit that was dumb, but in the moment that feels like at least I'm taking control of the situation I think sometimes you spend too much time alone Me personally yeah, I think probably true.

01:16:46 Speaker_06
Yeah, I think knowing you and being your friend for many years now I think when you struggle is when you buy yourself too much Yeah, because when you're with everybody else everybody loves you we all have fun together so I

01:16:59 Speaker_06
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We need that. Especially us. Especially comedians. We need to be around people that are just like us. You don't have to worry. We can just talk shit and laugh and have fun.

01:17:12 Speaker_06
There's no wondering where we stand with each other. It's always fun. You need a home base, man. You were doing better when you were at the Comedy Store all the time because you were around us all the time. We were all around each other.

01:17:24 Speaker_06
We knew there was a place we could go where we could find like-minded people and have a laugh.

01:17:29 Speaker_06
You know, yeah on a regular basis, which is like we're so fortunate most people don't have a place where they can go where they're Guaranteed to see people that they love and you're gonna have a good time and just be silly with each other And then you're watching all these sets everybody's going on stage with that energy.

01:17:47 Speaker_06
And so there's all this fun killing in the air

01:17:51 Speaker_09
Yeah, I mean, Mothership's fun, man. I've been wanting to look for a place, I just haven't had the time.

01:17:57 Speaker_06
Let me ask you this.

01:17:57 Speaker_09
This year's been the craziest year, you know, it's just been a crazy year, and so it's like... Well, it's good to be crazy because you're busy and you're doing great stuff.

01:18:04 Speaker_06
Yeah, it's been fun. Your podcast is killing it.

01:18:06 Speaker_09
It's been scary, you know, it's been fun, you know. I appreciate the couple times, you know, you've messaged me after a couple episodes and said, hey man, I like that or something, I really appreciate it.

01:18:14 Speaker_09
I want to let you know that I really appreciate that.

01:18:16 Speaker_06
Well, I appreciate what you're doing. I'm very very proud of you I'd love to see how much you've worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks. It's really good, man It's very authentic.

01:18:26 Speaker_06
It's a perfect podcast in that it's really you you you know how to be you you're real authentic Even if you're talking to Trump, you're being you you're talking about do a cocaine with former President Trump.

01:18:36 Speaker_06
Yeah new newly elected President Trump so it's like

01:18:40 Speaker_09
I just want to have a voice, you know, I always just wanted to have a voice ever or not, you know I just wanted I don't know you want to be able express yourself.

01:18:47 Speaker_09
Yes Yeah, I just wanted things to be fair and I just want to express I just like yeah There was always this feeling inside of me like I don't have a I can't speak up for myself, you know and so like I think

01:19:00 Speaker_09
Even if I'm just listening to somebody but letting them speak. It's like there's still like something that you know it means It's like I can't even explain it, but it's like um. It's so it's like. I don't know it means something to me

01:19:13 Speaker_06
Yeah, I think these kind of conversations are very good for you. Like conversations that you're having, conversations that I'm having. I think they're good for you.

01:19:21 Speaker_06
You get to, you get a chance to communicate with people that are, you know, really interesting, unique people that have lived completely different lives than you. Like I had Brian Cox on the other day explaining the universe to me.

01:19:34 Speaker_06
Fucking, I could, I was like a kid in a candy store. It's like, it's so exciting to get this guy's, it's like,

01:19:41 Speaker_06
Super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator could break down the fabric of the universe for you and once we know about it I mean like when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone I have three hours Yeah, man, dude I had a lady who had been driving cats across the country for two years in a fucking tour bus right and they perform and they do music

01:20:05 Speaker_09
And bro, I'm not even joking to you, it was one of the most fascinating things I've ever heard in my life.

01:20:10 Speaker_07
Oh yeah.

01:20:10 Speaker_09
Because her commitment to it. Imagine she got her CDL so she could drive the fucking bus because it was so expensive. What's a CDL? Commercial Driver's License. Oh. And she goes around doing feline shows around the whole country.

01:20:24 Speaker_06
And she's been doing it for 15 years. Who do you think she voted for? That's a good question, I don't know. Whoever, hey, grandmother pussy, probably that guy. Do you know that crazy cat ladies, that there's a reason for that?

01:20:39 Speaker_06
It's the same reason that, like, it's a cat parasite, toxoplasmosis.

01:20:44 Speaker_09
So you're saying it's a, uh, it's a medical ailment? Makes you aggressive.

01:20:48 Speaker_06
No, it makes you aggressive. Yeah. I bet a lot, like that's that term cat lady, crazy cat lady. That's a real thing. That lady's got a parasite. She's got a brain parasite. Toxoplasmosis.

01:20:59 Speaker_09
You can't tell them that.

01:21:01 Speaker_06
I bet I could test them. Get a cheek swab. Hold that lady down. Give me a cheek swab. I guarantee you that lady's got it. Oh, that lady. I used to live with a dude, bro.

01:21:12 Speaker_09
I used to live with this dude, right? And I ended up doing fucking a lot of drugs or something, whatever. And I fucking cut a window into my closet, dude. And it was to the neighbor's apartment. I thought it went outside. I got kicked out. Oh my God.

01:21:24 Speaker_09
But before that, I lived with this dude and he would get really- Imagine you're that lady.

01:21:28 Speaker_06
In the apartment next door and you hear a saw. Some dude's cutting a hole into your fucking apartment.

01:21:37 Speaker_04
Yeah, man, I just... That's the crazy thing about apartments, right?

01:21:41 Speaker_06
The crazy thing about cocaine, dude. That's not how apartments work, bro. I've been up for fucking 42 hours on drugs. You want to hear something crazy? Trump, at the day of the election, Dana White told me he'd been up for 72 hours. Unbelievable.

01:21:57 Speaker_06
How's that possible he goes dude? He's a freak. It's so weird.

01:22:01 Speaker_09
Well. Yeah, dude.

01:22:02 Speaker_09
I'll say some things that here's things that like Whatever you think about Those things that the guy is as resilient No one could go through all that shit when the Justice Department started to fuck him over That's when a lot of people were like you know what?

01:22:18 Speaker_09
The judge the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the justice system And if they're fucking him over right and then he got shot at a couple of times, dude He's he's a quarter of 50 cent.

01:22:31 Speaker_09
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He's like So it's like what else does it you know at a certain point you just like I got a bet on this dog Yeah, you know even if it's like you don't even like I

01:22:44 Speaker_09
It's like, this motherfucker, this dude, you gotta bet on that dog. If not, it's just bizarre, you know?

01:22:52 Speaker_06
I mean, the guy gets up and says, fight, fight, fight, after he got shot in the ear. He's not freaking out.

01:22:57 Speaker_05
He's like, oh my God, I got shot. Get me out of here. They're shooting. He looked, he goes, no, no, stop, stop.

01:23:03 Speaker_09
Yeah. Fight. Fight. Dude, I stubbed my toe. I called my assistant a faggot. So yeah, there's something special about that guy.

01:23:14 Speaker_06
And if you're lying about him, and I know you're lying about him, why am I supposed to trust you that you're lying for a good reason? Right? If you keep repeating these same hoaxes, they keep repeating.

01:23:26 Speaker_06
Obama was repeating in one of his speeches, he said about those white supremacists, they're very fine men on both sides. That's not true. Yeah, it's not true.

01:23:36 Speaker_09
Well, why? I don't understand why left-leaning media, which is mostly Jewish, are calling people white supremacists, dude. Did you say that? Yeah, I just don't understand. Left-wing media is mostly Jewish?

01:23:47 Speaker_09
I mean, according to my Jewish friends, it is, you know?

01:23:53 Speaker_06
But why do they hate white guys? It's just woke things, man. It's just virtue woke bullshit. I just don't understand it. Well, because the hierarchies have experienced a polar shift. OK, so here's what it is. If you go back to the 1960s,

01:24:10 Speaker_06
the kind of racism that people faced like before the race riots and all that was horrific because it's just a hundred years removed from slavery ending and the echoes of that oh it's still in our genes yes but the echoes of that were much more

01:24:26 Speaker_06
much more prevalent then. And so black people were heavily discriminated against, gay people were heavily discriminated against. People recognize that that's wrong.

01:24:36 Speaker_06
Young people go to universities, they get taught that it's wrong, they recognize the sins of the past, and then they overcorrect. And by overcorrecting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized.

01:24:50 Speaker_06
So you give people, like Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed. So the oppressed, the previously oppressed, now have a social hierarchy. They're a higher level. If you're a black trans woman, you get to say the things first at the meeting.

01:25:07 Speaker_06
You know, let the black trans woman talk. There's a hierarchy in all woke culture. And if you are a white male who's heterosexual, You have to be non-binary, because otherwise you can't get in.

01:25:18 Speaker_06
You gotta be a they-them, because then now, okay, now you're marginalized. Like, all you have to do is change your- Oh, I see. You gotta find a margin. That's the lowest level of entry, is non-binary, straight man.

01:25:29 Speaker_06
You just say you're non-binary, and they're like, yeah, you just say, I just don't feel like a man or a woman. Me and all you fuck chicks. You know what you're doing, you little chameleon.

01:25:37 Speaker_09
Yeah, you're just being a little secret care bear or whatever.

01:25:39 Speaker_06
You're sneaking around. But there's hierarchies. And gay people, because gay people have been previously oppressed, gay people weren't even allowed.

01:25:49 Speaker_06
Even in 2013, up to then, Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago. That was their political talking points.

01:26:04 Speaker_06
Marriage should be between a man and woman. So now kids realize how stupid that is. Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do, unless we're paying attention.

01:26:16 Speaker_06
As we get older, we pay more attention to what's going on before. But now kids immediately are aware of how fucked up colonial society has been, how they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people.

01:26:28 Speaker_06
So they want to, like, re-correct things.

01:26:31 Speaker_09
Oh yeah, if I was ever in office, dude, Native Americans are getting a lot of shit back immediately, dude.

01:26:36 Speaker_06
Well, they already have casinos.

01:26:37 Speaker_09
Huh?

01:26:38 Speaker_06
They already have casinos.

01:26:39 Speaker_09
Yeah, but did they want casinos? I wanted them to have back whatever they want.

01:26:43 Speaker_06
They're getting it back.

01:26:44 Speaker_09
They're getting the rivers back. They're getting the lakes back. They were taking it from each other too, dude.

01:26:48 Speaker_06
No, I agree.

01:26:49 Speaker_09
Everybody acts like Native Americans were like, everybody's just like whistling and just shaking hands, but they were fighting. Yeah, 100%.

01:26:55 Speaker_06
But you would have to figure out like who owned it like at that time and give it back to them. And then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back. Because if you want to go back to the old ways, that's the old ways.

01:27:07 Speaker_06
You want to go back to when the Comanche ran Texas. Like, okay, good luck. But you know what the Comanche's favorite thing was doing? Raiding other tribes. They loved that. They were gangbangers. Yeah, they were gangbangers.

01:27:17 Speaker_06
They would show up in other tribes and slaughter people. And they wouldn't just slaughter people. They would torture them. They would cut their arms and legs off, throw them on a pile of fire.

01:27:27 Speaker_06
Nobody ever surrendered, ever, because they knew that there was no leniency. You're going to be tortured and killed.

01:27:34 Speaker_09
Oh, so you had to fight to the death.

01:27:35 Speaker_06
100% fight imagine not being able to surrender because you have no choice but to fight it at that's the concept of a surrender was Completely alien to Native Americans.

01:27:45 Speaker_06
Yeah, they fought to the fucking death and they fought each other to the death and there was battles between all of them and they Conquered and they made alliances and you know, especially little bighorn.

01:27:55 Speaker_06
They all got together and fucked up Custer But oh, there's so many different tribes that conquered so many different you'd have to go back to when right? You're like when well you got it because you killed all these people.

01:28:06 Speaker_06
Let's go back to the Algonquins Let's give it to the fucking Apaches.

01:28:09 Speaker_06
Let's get like you'd have to figure it out man like this was yeah, this was a dream catcher to get the truth this was really like in some ways other than the violence it was like a utopian existence and

01:28:22 Speaker_06
It was these people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback following them around. They didn't even make art, dude. The Comanche didn't make art. They didn't make any.

01:28:38 Speaker_06
Why, they were just warriors? Just warriors eating meat. All they did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else.

01:28:44 Speaker_09
So is it weird that we feel bad about that? Is that a trap? That's what I'm wondering. Does that question make sense to you?

01:28:52 Speaker_06
Well, that was the way they lived. Is that better than drone bombs in Yemen? When we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse, is it better? Is that better? No. The whole thing is fucked. It's fucked that Gaza's going on.

01:29:05 Speaker_06
It's fucked that they're using these poor Ukrainians like fucking meat for the Russian war machine. The whole thing's crazy. It's all bad. But the crazy that was going on back then was a one-on-one crazy. It's a different kind of crazy.

01:29:20 Speaker_06
It was like there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these that you're gonna go kill them and take that thing from them and if you knew that there was a Camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge and they would be in bed at night You would come in the middle of night and slaughter.

01:29:34 Speaker_06
Oh, yes, and they did that to each other. They did that to each other and

01:29:38 Speaker_09
So it was a horrific way of existing because sometimes there's this there's this vision that you um Romanticize that culture, right? I do that a lot. I romanticize things that I don't know about right.

01:29:50 Speaker_09
Mm-hmm Because there just seems like something like oh, that's romantic or something, you know, this was a culture of war It was fucking hide-and-go-seek for real

01:29:59 Speaker_06
It was a culture of warriors, like this whole country was filled with nomadic warriors. Wow. And most of them got killed by fucking smallpox. That's what's the crazy.

01:30:10 Speaker_06
Most of them got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the Europeans. How gay must that have felt, dude? You're a fucking warrior, right?

01:30:20 Speaker_06
You go to the trading depot to drop off some fucking skins some dude sneezes on you, and that's a wrap Training all day dude Some guy just fucking doesn't wash his feet for half an afternoon.

01:30:39 Speaker_06
I just came here off a boat stinky bitches breathing shit shit air and drinking shit water You know like do you imagine the hygiene on those boats? Oh Columbus's ship.

01:30:51 Speaker_09
It was like the first burning man, dude That place was a dump dude I heard the pent didn't even have any chicks on it dude.

01:30:58 Speaker_06
It's like there's an example Columbus is an example Could you had done it? I mean probably if you lived back then that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored. But you're in the it's early morning. You want to try.

01:31:10 Speaker_06
You would want to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean.

01:31:13 Speaker_06
If you're a young man and you just needed something in your life and you knew the dudes did it and you just eat beef jerky for three months and you make it across the ocean and when you get to the other side is there's gold everywhere.

01:31:24 Speaker_06
They didn't even know where they were. Yeah. But if you read the accounts, there was a priest that traveled with him, some sort of religious man that traveled with him. Oh, yeah. Like a detailed diary of the horrific things that Columbus's men did.

01:31:37 Speaker_06
They bashed babies on the rocks. They told certain men that they had to give them their weight in gold. And if they did, they would chop dudes' arms off in front of everybody. They enslaved these people and used them for their gold.

01:31:50 Speaker_06
Because these people had no use for gold. They didn't know how valuable gold was.

01:31:54 Speaker_09
You mean when they got to the Americas?

01:31:55 Speaker_06
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. They just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people, dude. There's horrific depictions of what Columbus's people did.

01:32:07 Speaker_09
We romanticize, I romanticize nature so much and it's really vulgar, isn't it?

01:32:11 Speaker_06
Well, it's just humans have always done this to each other for all of human history. The strong groups of men with weapons invade people that aren't prepared and they take all their stuff and they conquer them. It's always happened.

01:32:25 Speaker_06
It's the most common thing. If you go back and look at history, there's a bunch of common things. There's an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities. There's machines. All these different things improve.

01:32:41 Speaker_06
But along the way, the consistent thing is war. It's constantly happening from the beginning of time, as early as we know, tribes were battling other tribes.

01:32:51 Speaker_06
And back then, when there wasn't that many people, wasn't that many resources, and you were competing to see whose genes spread, it's just natural. You develop tools and weapons, and then that's ingrained in our fucking DNA.

01:33:03 Speaker_06
So here we are in 2024 with iPhone 16s and Starlink, and we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved.

01:33:14 Speaker_06
And that's the scariest thing about being alive today, is that we're so advanced, we're so much more civilized than at any other point in human history, and yet, same amount of people, if not more, are dying senselessly all the time.

01:33:28 Speaker_09
Right, like we're civilized on the outside, but there's a part of us that will always be uncivilized?

01:33:32 Speaker_06
Yeah, but the part of it is war, right? And other parts of the world are not as calm as us. You know, there's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous. Yeah.

01:33:42 Speaker_06
You know, there's places in the world where you can't go without getting robbed or shot.

01:33:47 Speaker_09
Yeah, Memphis, first of all. Is Memphis that bad? Memphis is bad, dude.

01:33:52 Speaker_06
That's where Elvis came from.

01:33:53 Speaker_09
Huh?

01:33:54 Speaker_06
Isn't that where Elvis came from? And he left, too. Has it changed? Where's Graceland?

01:33:59 Speaker_09
Actually, Graceland, you know what's crazy about Graceland? It's in Memphis. And it's cool. You go out, they let you in the backyard after the smoke, and Elvis' grave is right there. You could smoke right in front of Elvis's grave?

01:34:11 Speaker_09
You could smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis's grave, or 80 centimeters.

01:34:14 Speaker_06
That movie, that Elvis movie was so good.

01:34:17 Speaker_09
Which one? The one about his girlfriend?

01:34:18 Speaker_06
Where Tom Hanks plays the colonel? You didn't see that one?

01:34:22 Speaker_09
Oh, yeah.

01:34:23 Speaker_06
With that dude, what is his name, Austin? Colonel Winters or whatever. What's the fella's name that played Elvis? Austin Butler. Austin Butler is really good, man.

01:34:30 Speaker_04
Yeah, that was good.

01:34:30 Speaker_06
He fucking, he nailed it. He was really good. You really believed that he was Elvis. What a crazy story.

01:34:36 Speaker_04
Yeah.

01:34:38 Speaker_06
Elvis was the first guy to get way too famous. The first guy that was just way too famous.

01:34:44 Speaker_09
Yeah.

01:34:45 Speaker_06
Like there was no one that famous before Elvis.

01:34:47 Speaker_09
No, there wasn't. Well, yeah, there was Jesus probably. Who else? Maybe Jesus. Constantine?

01:34:52 Speaker_06
I think Jesus got his rep, like he got his real appreciation after he was gone. Yeah. You know, sort of like Kurt Cobain.

01:35:00 Speaker_09
Yeah, kind of. That's a good point, huh?

01:35:03 Speaker_06
I mean, people loved Kurt Cobain while he was alive, but I think they really appreciated him after he was dead. There's certain guys.

01:35:11 Speaker_09
What do you think you what what are you um? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do when you die dude?

01:35:19 Speaker_06
All right, we'll see about that. Well. We will see about that. That's what's interesting imagine If you really do go to heaven and st.

01:35:27 Speaker_06
Peter really is there with a book like this is crazy first thing you're thinking is this dudes gay as fuck I think that robe

01:35:34 Speaker_06
Some news has a checklist or whatever the most trying to get in a hide or whatever You're the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on robes are stupid.

01:35:44 Speaker_06
I never want to wear a robe Have you wore a robe what if I have to go to like a massage place? You gotta wear a robe before you take the robe off Mike okay? You're gonna see me in my underwear in five minutes, so why don't we just do it now?

01:35:55 Speaker_06
It's flirting You know about pants you get yourself a pair of origin stretchy jeans, they're great man They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants God. Why are you? Why are you wearing a robe, man?

01:36:18 Speaker_06
You think God's got that thing on him or what?

01:36:20 Speaker_05
What do you think? He probably got a hog.

01:36:22 Speaker_06
You think? He created the universe. Yeah. Oh my God. I bet you would want it. I bet you would want it. If you saw it, you'd want it. I wouldn't go up to it. Imagine it just has a magical attraction.

01:36:34 Speaker_06
You're like, you're not even gay, but everybody's gay for God. Hey, look, I'll tell you this. I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude. If God's real, he made gay people.

01:36:43 Speaker_06
Anybody who thinks gay is a choice, I think gay is a choice for some people. Let me be real clear about this. I think there's some people that are open minded and say, I'll trial being gay for a while. It's not me, maybe it's you.

01:36:56 Speaker_06
Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it, and he panicked at the last minute and ran away. He thought he had to be open-minded.

01:37:01 Speaker_09
You have to stay up late to do it, I feel like. I feel like it's like a late night activity.

01:37:04 Speaker_06
A lot of gay stuff doesn't happen at 9 in the morning.

01:37:06 Speaker_09
Until past 1. Past 1 a.m. I like to get to bed at a decent hour.

01:37:10 Speaker_06
My point is, God made gay people.

01:37:13 Speaker_06
Yeah, so it's clear if God made everything he made people that are gay the craziest religious answer like Ben Shapiro gave me this answer He said he thinks you should ignore don't do it because it's a sin just like you want to murder people But you don't murder him like bro.

01:37:28 Speaker_06
How much do you want to murder people like it's like cuz gay people want to fuck every day Yeah, like you know who wants out if you want to murder people every day check yourself in

01:37:36 Speaker_06
That's that's a crazy comparison like the gay thing is literally your sexual expression like you're attracted to other guys So like if you're not attracted to other guys You think are you sure God wrote that down?

01:37:49 Speaker_06
Like are you a 100% positive that God really thinks that's a bad idea But yet he made people that have that urge right it would be it wouldn't be fair if he did that It wouldn't be right

01:38:00 Speaker_09
Right, I think the craziest thing is I think if you the first gay dude must have been like what's going on?

01:38:06 Speaker_09
You know like he's sitting there with his wife or whatever and his buddy comes over to like you know to just look around or whatever cuz they don't have that much stuff back then and his buddy comes over just to like look around or tell him about it like an animal he saw or something he just starts thinking man.

01:38:19 Speaker_09
I'm gonna fucking Bet I'm gonna get this little rabbit.

01:38:23 Speaker_06
I bet it existed from the jump What do you think is a gay dude? I think gay guys have been here for that little fuck you know why because I think human beings that little dirt oyster

01:38:47 Speaker_09
What do you think if the thoughts have to come into your head? Something puts the thoughts in you. I think it starts in the thoughts. I don't think it starts in the DNA.

01:38:56 Speaker_06
Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was a, I think, see if you can find this. I think it was University of Rome.

01:39:03 Speaker_06
They proposed a theory that there was a variation of the X chromosome that existed in women that are very promiscuous and that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate amount of gay sons.

01:39:16 Speaker_09
Oh my God.

01:39:17 Speaker_06
Yeah, so the idea is that these women are just so dick hungry that it literally passes on through their genes.

01:39:25 Speaker_09
Where was it? It wasn't in Rhode Island, was it?

01:39:27 Speaker_06
No, but that could happen in Rhode Island. Providence would be a good place for that.

01:39:32 Speaker_09
Isn't there like a gay mecca that's kind of gay?

01:39:34 Speaker_06
Yeah, yeah. Provincetown, I think. Is that it?

01:39:38 Speaker_09
Jeff, what's his name, used to party there. Jeff from the comedy store.

01:39:42 Speaker_06
I think Provincetown is Massachusetts. But there's, I know what you're talking about. There's a thing in Rhode Island, then there's Fire Island in New York.

01:39:50 Speaker_06
But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women like really promiscuous, they wanted a bunch of different sexual partners, that this same, that it might be actually a gene thing.

01:40:02 Speaker_06
See the gene thing is weird man because Brett Weinstein explained this to me He said do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot and I said no like what's the difference?

01:40:11 Speaker_06
He was like a beautiful woman is a woman that you would want to have a long-term relationship and raise children with yeah, and then a hot woman is Like a woman who's wearing very skimpy clothes and looks like she's really made up.

01:40:26 Speaker_06
The idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without having any consequences.

01:40:35 Speaker_06
So the this person right right you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person But it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes like as primates just spray and stray kind of thing Like Monsanto or whatever fertility the amount of children they have I think or something

01:40:51 Speaker_06
I thought it was the promiscuous women.

01:40:53 Speaker_03
I'll show you the title.

01:40:54 Speaker_06
Does it say that there? I wonder if this is their interpretation. Yeah, that's around the time. Gay gene survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children. But guess what? If you have more kids it means you like dick.

01:41:09 Speaker_06
I think they were talking about promiscuity though.

01:41:14 Speaker_06
However, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and their mothers and maternal aunts, who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men.

01:41:27 Speaker_09
I think we need more gay men in some of these areas.

01:41:29 Speaker_06
Well, hold on a second. Doesn't that make sense, though? That would make sense in terms of natural selection.

01:41:35 Speaker_06
Because if you're someone who's over having kids, you have too many kids, you have like 10 children, I would see how nature would be like, you know what? We don't need to spread these genes as much. Let's make a couple of these gay.

01:41:49 Speaker_09
Right, nature's like, let's even things out, right? Right, that would make sense. Nature wants people to balance. Yes, nature wants balance.

01:41:58 Speaker_06
Yeah, and if someone has 10 kids and everybody else has 10 kids, that could get out of hand real quick. So I can see how if you have a lot of kids, nature be like, you know what, let me do this. What was that, where was that study done from?

01:42:10 Speaker_06
University of Rome.

01:42:12 Speaker_06
University of Padova in Italy, okay, and just as there's people that's gay There's people that are non-sexual at all really 100% which is stay out of the fight You don't belong to a to club plus a yeah, whatever that is so what is it? It's QBD.

01:42:29 Speaker_06
What is it? LGBTQ LGBTQ to AI plus a is asexual stay out of it. Yeah stay out of this fight

01:42:41 Speaker_09
Yeah, they got it. Some people... It's not your fight.

01:42:44 Speaker_06
Yeah, you're just like... You don't even have sex with anybody.

01:42:49 Speaker_09
Yeah, what if you're just jerking off at your house? Are you in that or what? Like, what is that? Who are those people?

01:42:53 Speaker_06
Right. That's lonely sexual. Yeah. An L. I think they're gonna put robots in there.

01:42:59 Speaker_09
You see that robot cutting hay the other day? I did not pull that up if you don't mind with a scythe like the reaper like a reaper.

01:43:07 Speaker_06
Yeah, it was a Little bit of like a not a slave bot or whatever we're talking about robot bodyguards that in the future You'll have robot bodyguards.

01:43:15 Speaker_09
You can go anywhere you want That'd be cool, but then like the second you start you got a run.

01:43:20 Speaker_09
They're gonna be like all right And then they'll run it's gonna take half a second half a second kills everything I bet they just pick you up and they run with you Wow just carry you There we go right here.

01:43:30 Speaker_03
This is not real. That's not real

01:43:32 Speaker_06
How do you, Jamie, you're a party pooper.

01:43:35 Speaker_03
Look how it's moving.

01:43:35 Speaker_06
Super real. You see that pod where they're killing- Jamie, that is so real.

01:43:39 Speaker_03
Yeah, that's real.

01:43:40 Speaker_06
Go back. 100% that's coming, okay?

01:43:44 Speaker_03
Yeah, sure, but yeah.

01:43:45 Speaker_06
I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there's a lot of those jobs that are gonna be taken by, like, unskilled labor jobs are all gonna be robots.

01:43:53 Speaker_09
But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that? Like, at a certain point, shouldn't AI, if it doesn't help us be human, that at a certain point we should stop it? That's how I feel like.

01:44:01 Speaker_06
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They should have stopped it a long time ago. If you want humans to survive, you should have stopped it a long time ago. If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay,

01:44:17 Speaker_06
That doesn't make sense because you're making something way better. You're 100% going to make something and you're going to give it autonomy and you're going to give it sentience. And it's going to be infinitely smarter than us.

01:44:27 Speaker_06
It's not going to be restricted by any biological needs. It's not going to be greedy. It's not going to be mean. It's not going to be malicious. But it might decide we're useless.

01:44:36 Speaker_06
They might decide that it definitely doesn't need us polluting the ocean and fucking up the fucking rivers.

01:44:41 Speaker_09
It's risky.

01:44:42 Speaker_06
Yeah. Nuclear waste. It's going to be like, what are you doing, you morons? Why are you idiots cracking atoms? Stay out of that.

01:44:51 Speaker_09
You don't even know what you're doing.

01:44:52 Speaker_06
Here's free porn and a fucking VR mask. You give you free food. Have a blast. Let you stop breeding. Our population will just drop off a cliff.

01:45:03 Speaker_09
They just I saw um they um What were we talking about a second ago?

01:45:11 Speaker_06
Robots.

01:45:14 Speaker_09
Oh, they're killing people at the airport.

01:45:16 Speaker_06
You want another hit of this?

01:45:16 Speaker_09
Yeah, I'll take another one, man. I need another sodie or something. You got anything on you in here?

01:45:20 Speaker_06
We got coffee. You want some coffee?

01:45:21 Speaker_09
Take another Kill Cliff if you got one.

01:45:23 Speaker_06
Jamie, go get you one. Want some coffee?

01:45:25 Speaker_09
You mind? Is that coffee? Yeah.

01:45:28 Speaker_06
Yeah, it's a clean mug.

01:45:29 Speaker_09
It is. It's warm coffee.

01:45:31 Speaker_06
It just came out of the dishwasher. It's like the Civil War. Why do you pour it with one hand trapped underneath that arm? You're freaking me out. Challenging myself, dude. That is wrist stability. That was all wrist. You didn't move your arm at all, dude.

01:45:44 Speaker_06
You were all wrist on that jam. Yeah. That's hard to do, man. Thank you. The wrist is the weakest link. You ever do wrist curls? I'm shocked at how weak bitch ass my wrists are. Oh, it's amazing.

01:45:56 Speaker_09
Well, it's amazing whenever you take like in Jiu-Jitsu classes how the first thing you start to learn is control the wrist.

01:46:02 Speaker_06
It's crazy, changes everything. Especially guys with big hands. You could grab like a guy with a basketball player-sized hands. There's this dude named Semmy Schilt. He used to fight in the UFC. Semmy? Semmy Schilt. He was seven feet tall.

01:46:14 Speaker_02
Oh, wow.

01:46:15 Speaker_06
And the problem with Semmy is if you got on top of him, he just grabs your wrists. You can't get your hands free. Like this motherfucker. Because he had these fucking baseball mitts for hands. He just wrapped his hands around you. That's Semmy Schilt.

01:46:27 Speaker_06
Wow. Yeah. He was a K1 Grand Prix winner. Oh, my God. He looks like Zach Bryan on top. Seven foot tall. He was a beast, dude. He fought in MMA, too. Wasn't a good grappler, unfortunately. That was kind of his downfall, but had a nasty front kick to the body.

01:46:43 Speaker_06
Yeah, he fought Peter Ertz. He fought everybody, man. Semmy was good. And he was real tall and real good at utilizing that height.

01:46:51 Speaker_09
It would seem like I would be scared to be that tall in MMA because there would be more of you to be attacked by.

01:46:56 Speaker_06
Sort of, but you're way further away. You know, like the whole thing is distance where you could effectively strike them and they can't strike you. Yeah. Like a guy built, like Jon Jones has the perfect fighter's frame because he's still very strong.

01:47:08 Speaker_06
He has a lot of muscle, but he's also long and lean. So he's not relatively bulky compared to his weight because he's long and stretched out. Yeah. So he can hit you from here. and you can only hit him from here. This amount of distance is so huge.

01:47:26 Speaker_06
If you have a distance like that much where a guy can hit you and you can't hit him, you have to cross that and you're so vulnerable while crossing that. And if a guy's a good counter striker and he's active and he's long,

01:47:39 Speaker_06
They're so, so hard to get in on. So a guy like John, that's always going to be an advantage. And then with John, if you do get in on him, that's no picnic because he's an elite grappler. So he's going to strangle you.

01:47:51 Speaker_06
He's going to throw you to the ground. So like, you're fucked. You're in this fuck zone. On the outside, he's kicking the shit out of your knees. John is one of the nastiest, like side kicking people's knees. Yeah. Yeah.

01:48:02 Speaker_09
Most dangerous guy.

01:48:03 Speaker_06
Very dangerous.

01:48:04 Speaker_09
People say that he's Dana White's favorite fighter. Is that the truth, do you think?

01:48:09 Speaker_06
Dana White says he's the greatest of all time, which a lot of people say. I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means, but if you want to...

01:48:19 Speaker_06
If you want to say, like, who dominated his division longer than anybody, who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division, and who never lost, that's Jon Jones.

01:48:29 Speaker_06
The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight. It was Dominic Reyes was coming up, he was in his prime, it was a really good fight, a really close fight. But Jon won what I think was a split decision?

01:48:42 Speaker_06
And then he had a split decision with Tiago Silva. Tiago Santos, but Tiago Santos, he blew out both of Tiago's knees. Tiago needed knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight. I think that was a split decision.

01:48:55 Speaker_06
But the bottom line is John won all those fights. And then, you know, he wins the heavyweight title too. It's tough to argue he's not the greatest of all time.

01:49:05 Speaker_10
Yeah.

01:49:06 Speaker_06
I say, you know, if you had to only pick one, I would pick John, but I don't like only picking one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time.

01:49:18 Speaker_06
I always say Mighty Mouse because Mighty Mouse would do things where you're like, what the fuck did he just do? He, when he fought Ray Borg, he tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking arm bar on the way down.

01:49:30 Speaker_09
Oh God. Do you ever see that? No, I've never seen that.

01:49:32 Speaker_06
It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen a guy do inside the cage. He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying arm bar in the air. Fuck. It's so fast. Like when it turned to me, it's like when I just think, watch this.

01:49:48 Speaker_09
throws him, boom. Bro. Wow, dude. Bro. Bro. If that dude ain't good at gif wrapping, you got the wrong guy, bro.

01:49:55 Speaker_06
You know how crazy that is? Look how crazy this is. In the middle of the air, he switches to an armbar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight. That's like a stunt. That's like a stunt move.

01:50:07 Speaker_06
If you saw that in a movie, you'd be like, shut the fuck up. Nobody can do that. Right. He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight.

01:50:15 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's crazy how many of those guys would be like, are like Hollywood stuntmen, you know?

01:50:19 Speaker_06
And then you gotta, you also gotta, like, if you just look on record, this is where it gets crazy.

01:50:25 Speaker_06
If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions, you kinda have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time, which is so crazy. He's one of only three two-division champions, right?

01:50:41 Speaker_06
How many have been to? You have Connor, you have DC, you have Alex. I think that's it.

01:50:48 Speaker_09
Uh, no.

01:50:49 Speaker_06
No. I think that's it. Amanda Nunes, that doesn't really count, because 45, it does count. But 45 is kind of a non-existent weight class.

01:51:00 Speaker_09
It kind of doesn't exist. He's a hunter, that guy.

01:51:02 Speaker_06
She was fighting girls that could have fought 35. It's real, but like 45 is the most, 145 for women is the most shallow division in MMA. So yes, you would say Amanda too. So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that.

01:51:16 Speaker_06
And he achieved it in record time. He's knocked out so many fucking champions. Knocked out Jamal Hill, beat the shit out of Yuri Prohaska, knocked him out in the second fight. That was crazy. Bro!

01:51:27 Speaker_09
Hunted him.

01:51:27 Speaker_06
Bro. Bro.

01:51:29 Speaker_09
That guy's unbelievable watching him.

01:51:31 Speaker_06
He's a fucking monster, dude. He's a monster. He's a force. What he did to Khalil Roundtree was a clinic.

01:51:37 Speaker_09
Khalil's amazing, too.

01:51:38 Speaker_06
He's amazing. To do that to a guy like Khalil, that was a clinic in elite, world-class MMA.

01:51:45 Speaker_09
And at first, the first two rounds, you're like, what is this like? What's going on? Khalil's in it. They're both in it. But then you start to see that prayer is hunting. It's like this hunting.

01:51:55 Speaker_06
Yeah, the pressure never ends.

01:51:56 Speaker_09
Yeah, and you're like oh my god It's like literally watching one of those snake like a snake when they're just kind of like Like did you see that snake that ate that deer is like a 77 pound deer or whatever?

01:52:06 Speaker_06
You did of course I see all that shit. It's crazy Bring that up bring that big dog. He says snake because that's kind of how Pereira moves He moves like a snake, like he pulls back and then he strikes forward. He pulls back.

01:52:19 Speaker_06
He's a master at just getting right outside of your shots and then his shots are coming in right behind him.

01:52:25 Speaker_09
And he operates at his own speed. He's almost like Alvin Kamara is a football player that does that. He operates at his, it's a speed you've never seen. It looks normal, but it's different.

01:52:34 Speaker_06
Well, it varies a lot too. Like sometimes he moves fast and sometimes he moves slow. It's very hypnotic. Yes, it's hypnotic. It's also unique. He's got a unique frame, so he moves different on design. Wow.

01:52:48 Speaker_06
Like he doesn't switch his hips when he throws kicks, so you don't see him come until it's too late. Right. So he's standing in front of you, and when he kicks, there's no movement of his shoulders. He's just throwing these kicks out, and they land.

01:53:00 Speaker_06
And they're not as hard as if he put his whole body into it, but it's hard enough where you're like, oh no. And you get hit with a couple of those, three, four, five of those.

01:53:09 Speaker_06
All of a sudden you're like, I can't walk anymore, and now he's hunting you. And he's hunting you. See, I would put him already in the conversation.

01:53:17 Speaker_06
I don't think he's better than John Jones, greatest of all time, but I already put him in the conversation as a potential greatest of all time nominee. He's fucking he's right there.

01:53:25 Speaker_06
He's the male Katniss Everdeen He's a hunter and he's only been in the UFC for a few years. Yeah, it's crazy a couple MMA fights other than the UFC and then the UFC for this run at the top of the division just smashing everyone to obliterate

01:53:42 Speaker_06
So then you got Khabib, undefeated, 29-0. George St. Pierre, another two-division champion, that's right. George won at 85 as well. I almost forgot George. Yeah, so George, one of the greatest of all times for sure. You put him in that conversation.

01:53:58 Speaker_09
I got to see him in Canada.

01:54:01 Speaker_06
Anderson in his prime Anderson his prime is in that conversation.

01:54:05 Speaker_06
You got to look at him like in there in a moment Whenever there's a moment a time period like this amount of years to that amount of years Well, it's all agreed that this is the prime forget about when they should have retired Let that go.

01:54:17 Speaker_06
Yeah, just talk about them when they're at their best. Who is the best?

01:54:20 Speaker_09
That's a good point Yeah Because everybody that's doing great, you want to stay as long as you can. It would be weird if you didn't, probably.

01:54:26 Speaker_06
But you can't judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out, because it's just a foolish endeavor. They shouldn't have been fighting a killer at 42 years old, you know, natural. And it's timing, too. Yeah, but there's just a lot.

01:54:41 Speaker_06
When fighters fight late into their career, you've got to kind of You gotta kind of erase that when you think about their ultimate expression. I feel like their prime is their ultimate, it's everything they could do.

01:54:54 Speaker_06
They did everything right, they crossed every T, they measured all their food, they fucking did the cryo chamber and they did saunas every day and got massages and were sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills and they were going over moves with their coaches, they had a battle plan.

01:55:11 Speaker_06
everything so those guys you can only do that for so long there's that's like a nine year at at the best when you're at the so you got to look like in that win like Fedor and pride you got to look in that window don't look at Fedor now and you know

01:55:28 Speaker_06
Guys are knocking him out and it's just not the same. He's an old guys been beating up a bunch of times He's still a bad motherfucker, but it's not not that dude who was running pride in the early 2000s, right?

01:55:40 Speaker_06
Yeah, you got to look at them when they're in BJ Penn at his best and Yeah, the BJ been for a few years.

01:55:45 Speaker_09
I say is as good as I know you talk about him a lot I've heard you speak about him.

01:55:48 Speaker_06
You just had us in this when he was in his prime It was just a matter of was BJ gonna get him in the first round. Was he gonna get him in the second round? BJ was hyper aggressive and just Unbelievably talent.

01:56:00 Speaker_06
I wasn't watching back then and dexterity dude. He had crazy dexterity.

01:56:04 Speaker_09
He's the governor of Maui, isn't he? No, no, no.

01:56:07 Speaker_06
He's running for the governor of Hawaii.

01:56:09 Speaker_09
Did he win? No, he didn't win Oh No, I went to Maui not too long ago. Maybe four months ago now. He's awesome Yeah, it's all but we went to the place for the hurricane where the fires were fires blew my mind, man It's still nothing right?

01:56:22 Speaker_09
It was unbelievable. Yeah, it was it was just like it was unbelievable to see what it occurred, you know and just like it's crazy how quickly we just as like how we move past certain tragedies, you know?

01:56:37 Speaker_09
Like, we don't mean to, it's just the news cycle does, and, you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle, and so then it's kind of hard, you know?

01:56:44 Speaker_06
But it was... I'll tell you one thing. The way the administration handled that, I think, put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth, while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine.

01:56:54 Speaker_06
I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that. You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here.

01:57:06 Speaker_06
Because then it's like, why are you deciding in this manner that you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever? Why are you deciding to give them $700?

01:57:19 Speaker_09
Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist.

01:57:23 Speaker_06
It's not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs. Right. Because one of the things that's going on with this is like they got to do insurance and they go through insurance and this and that.

01:57:33 Speaker_06
But meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages.

01:57:36 Speaker_09
So like what happens and it's hard to figure out there Joe because a lot of people they live as like second and third Generations all living in the same home, right?

01:57:43 Speaker_09
And they've also a lot of you know, how Hawaii is they like they'll like take little pieces of land It's like, you know, people will build like something small and just live in somebody else's yard that kind of thing. It's very like

01:57:56 Speaker_06
There's only so much land, but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable.

01:58:01 Speaker_09
Oh yeah, it's like this perfect slope looking down at the ocean.

01:58:05 Speaker_06
What I would be fearful of, and if I was someone that was working in the government that wanted to protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up.

01:58:15 Speaker_06
Let's make sure that these people get their land back.

01:58:18 Speaker_09
That'd be the first thing I would say.

01:58:20 Speaker_06
If they all want to sell out to a resort and they make a decision on their own, that's one thing.

01:58:25 Speaker_06
But if they get hit with a wildfire and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild, they don't have the finances to rebuild, maybe there's a struggle with insurance. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe you didn't pay your insurance that month.

01:58:36 Speaker_06
Who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up and you're like whoa. Yeah. Because if they just like one of the things that the governor was talking about was like you turning it into a park or something like that. What did he say.

01:58:50 Speaker_06
Acquiring it for the state was his exact term that he said. But he said it like right after the tragedy. It was like dude.

01:58:57 Speaker_09
This is not the time to say it.

01:58:59 Speaker_06
It's not the time to ever say it. It's not the time to ever say you're going to take people's land and turn it into a park. Because they just got hit by a fire. So now, you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view. Not anymore.

01:59:11 Speaker_06
Now the government's going to take your land. Why? Because you got in a tragedy. What? Like I got double fucked? You got double fucked. You don't even get to keep the land? You can't even rebuild there? No, not anymore.

01:59:22 Speaker_09
There was a tragedy here like wait a minute Well that I think that's a weird thing when you don't feel like as a person that your government is gonna support you I think that's but that's probably like a feeling why that sounds like the opposite So your government's trying to rob you right?

01:59:36 Speaker_06
Like did you find it find the quote that he said? I got it. We got to read the quote because the quote is like it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off I'm Tulsi was so pissed off BJ was pissed off.

01:59:46 Speaker_06
Yeah, everybody was like this is crazy Like how can you say that right after a tragedy like this?

01:59:51 Speaker_09
Yeah, I remember I went there and what I just walked up to the fire department that was like up the hill from there Oh, man, and I just walked up and I was like, hey I would like to is there any way that I could go see what happened when I was looking for it this says that it's the video is shortened and it makes the comments distorted and

02:00:07 Speaker_06
It distorts Hawaii governor's comments about the state buying land in Lahaina. So what did he actually say though? I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land.

02:00:20 Speaker_06
so that we can put it into workforce housing, to put it back to families, or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost.

02:00:30 Speaker_06
We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place, and Lahaina will rebuild. The tragedy right now is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the banyan tree may survive.

02:00:43 Speaker_06
But we don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first.

02:00:54 Speaker_09
So maybe some of their goal, maybe some of their goal was to preserve it.

02:00:56 Speaker_06
Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Say that again. Scroll back. This is interesting. We don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The state will take it and preserve it first.

02:01:12 Speaker_06
I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it. So, them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it and selling it and putting something there.

02:01:26 Speaker_06
But it still seems like overreach if you're living in the fucking place where the state's going to take the land.

02:01:31 Speaker_09
Well, it would be very scary as just a regular person, like, so I'm either going to lose my land to here or to here.

02:01:39 Speaker_06
Right, like where am I going now? What am I doing? And you don't hear anything about it. Yeah, you don't anymore. We looked it up once. There was a time where the government accidentally over-sent money to Ukraine.

02:01:52 Speaker_06
They sent them $6 billion they shouldn't have sent. So we looked up, how much would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It's $5 billion.

02:02:02 Speaker_06
So the extra money that they accidentally sent to Ukraine, they could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over. But we give you $700. Unreal. That's disgusting. That's disgusting.

02:02:17 Speaker_06
If you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team, you've got to treat us all like we're on the same team.

02:02:22 Speaker_06
You can't literally be throwing all this money into Ukraine and then there's places in America that suck and you're not doing anything to help these folks.

02:02:30 Speaker_09
Yeah and people will say like well your tax dollars don't affect you but at a certain point it's not even about the it's just like do you not

02:02:39 Speaker_09
Like, if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system, does the system not care about me, you know?

02:02:49 Speaker_09
But I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways, so... Well, I think whenever you have a system... I don't know, man. I'm out of my mind.

02:02:54 Speaker_06
System, you know, system's a bunch of people. And so when you have a bunch of people, an enormous amount of people, it's too many people to think about as individuals. You think about it as numbers. And that's like the sort of...

02:03:09 Speaker_06
Sociopath version of a government. They just think of you as a number.

02:03:12 Speaker_09
Yeah But when people start to lose their per like if you start to lose your sense of being an American then you start to that's a that's big for a lot of people right like so then it's a sense of purpose right one of the senses of purposes I feel like that we get or like having a job having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love or

02:03:29 Speaker_09
or being a part of a country, right? Being a part of a fabric of a society. And when those things start to erode, some of those things, and if you don't have any other ones to back it up, then people get really rogue, you know?

02:03:42 Speaker_06
Well, they get rogue, especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins, you're gonna be in a right-wing, fascist dictatorship. Yeah, that just fucking pisses me off. I don't understand that. That should be a crime.

02:03:54 Speaker_06
Well, at the very least, it's like slanderous. It's not true. You can't back that up. It's not true. You're saying something that we have evidence of four years of him being a president and not doing that.

02:04:08 Speaker_09
And what does fascist mean?

02:04:10 Speaker_06
let's look up the actual definition. But there's a bunch of different versions of it. It's usually connected to a right-wing authoritarian ideology and a power of the state over people.

02:04:22 Speaker_06
And it gets twisted around a lot because it's also – you could also say it's fascist to impose certain ideas on people, demand certain speech, which would make a lot of left-wing people fascist as well.

02:04:37 Speaker_06
far-right authoritarian and utilitarian, ultra-nationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race,

02:04:58 Speaker_06
and strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism. Fascism is placed on the far right wing within the traditional left-right wing spectrum.

02:05:15 Speaker_06
Who's doing all that? No one is. So it's a bullshit term that you're throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you. Put it back up again, please. There's real fascists in the world. There's really dangerous people. That guy's not.

02:05:31 Speaker_06
He's got a big ego. He says ridiculous things. Who are you talking about? Trump. He doesn't behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president.

02:05:40 Speaker_09
No, he just seems like just an older guy who kind of likes being Donald Trump.

02:05:46 Speaker_06
I think he loves being Donald Trump, but I think he's got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with well I think you need a businessman to do this.

02:05:52 Speaker_09
It's not a it's not a we don't live in a like this like Care bear world anymore ours our politics.

02:06:01 Speaker_09
It's become a dirty fucking business So you I think you want a businessman in there like I don't care if somebody like somebody's attitude can the guy do business? Then that's who I because it's not it's not It's all business now. It's been sold out.

02:06:16 Speaker_09
I don't feel like it's this... I don't know. Does that make any sense, dude? Sorry, dude. I'm fucking having a day, man. Don't apologize. I know what you're saying.

02:06:27 Speaker_06
I know what you're saying.

02:06:28 Speaker_09
Yeah, it is business But like you want a shrewd businessman. I don't need Mary Poppins in there, right, right? I don't need somebody to tell me everything's okay.

02:06:35 Speaker_09
I need just like I need somebody to make our fucking food safe I need somebody to make our streets safe, right?

02:06:41 Speaker_09
And that's all I really need like right I feel like if I'm paying taxes then those are the things that I should expect at my FDA and that my police department which I'm paying for are gonna be able to

02:06:54 Speaker_09
Make sure that I can raise a family and raise them healthily and make it home from work to see my children I feel like I don't have any children yet, but I already feel you know, that's what I feel like people want I don't care about anything else.

02:07:05 Speaker_06
Yeah, I think most people feel the same way. They just want to be safe and happy RFK jr. Tweeted something see if you can find that well, Adam McKay had a great great tweet did but RFK treated like a message to I What is it, the RFK one?

02:07:23 Speaker_03
Yeah. It's long, right? Yeah. Yeah.

02:07:26 Speaker_06
Yeah. What's the matter, bro?

02:07:30 Speaker_09
Just having the worst day today, man.

02:07:31 Speaker_06
I got it right here if you want it.

02:07:33 Speaker_09
Sorry. Being a downer.

02:07:35 Speaker_06
No, you're not being a downer.

02:07:38 Speaker_09
I'm sorry, man.

02:07:38 Speaker_06
Look at that. FDA's war on public health is about to end.

02:07:41 Speaker_06
This includes its aggressive suppression of psychedelics, peptides, stem cells, raw milk, hyperbaric therapies, chelating compounds, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, clean food, sunshine, exercise, nutraceuticals, and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma.

02:07:59 Speaker_06
If you work for the FDA and are a part of this corrupt system, I have two messages for you. Number one, preserve your records, and number two, pack your bags. Whoa. That's what's crazy about Trump winning. That's what's crazy. Yeah, that's the thing.

02:08:14 Speaker_06
I love this. And then you've got people like Tulsi. That's the type of person you want. Congresswoman for eight years, impeccable character. And then you've got Vivek, who's a genius. You've got JD Vance, who's fucking brilliant as well.

02:08:30 Speaker_09
He's great.

02:08:31 Speaker_06
So you have a bunch of good people with him this go-around Well, yeah, it's like we gotta like get people off each other's necks man. You know, that's what we got to do We got to get people to like stop attacking each other.

02:08:44 Speaker_09
It's so crazy Well, I felt a sense of like even after the election was over at that felt like people everything just felt kind of calm. I

02:08:51 Speaker_06
Yeah. Well, it's a team thing, dude. It's like your team lost. It really is. It's these people that are super addicted to politics. They're like people who don't follow sports, never played any games. This is the way they compete.

02:09:06 Speaker_06
They compete for the most important thing, like who gets to dictate the tone of the country.

02:09:12 Speaker_09
Right. Right. I've never expected politics to have any effect on my life. You know, even when I was a kid, I didn't. You know, my mom told us don't ever depend on the government for anything, you know, it's like You just you have to do it.

02:09:23 Speaker_09
You just have to figure it out, you know yeah, like they used to have some rich dude or whatever like like our street it would like cut between like the Highway and like this other road where people would go and so they had a guy who was like a veterinarian or whatever And he would go down our street.

02:09:39 Speaker_09
He would stop and throw out like I These like, he was a veterinarian. And he would throw out like animal carcasses into our ditch and shit, right?

02:09:49 Speaker_06
So we- Jesus Christ, like dead cats and shit?

02:09:52 Speaker_09
Yeah, dead animals, you know, different animals. Nothing really, I would say medium size, you know, probably 32 waist and lower, right? Right. He would throw those bitches out into the fucking, I guess just get rid of them.

02:10:04 Speaker_09
And our neighborhood was like the poor neighborhood. So it was like, who gives a fuck about these people, right? What an asshole. Totally, but- Just throw them on the streets? Throw them in the ditch.

02:10:13 Speaker_09
But we called the police, and they'd be like, yeah, we'll help. And they would never come, you know? And my mom was like, don't ever. I remember telling her, do not ever expect the government to fucking help you do anything.

02:10:22 Speaker_09
You have to do shit yourself, you know?

02:10:24 Speaker_06
Also, cops don't want to take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put it in a bag. Like, that's not what they signed up for.

02:10:31 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:10:31 Speaker_09
I don't know, I mean if they're not busy.

02:10:32 Speaker_06
And then go investigate the, let's see, what kind of animal was this? Yeah, it was this veterinarian.

02:10:39 Speaker_09
And he would just throw those bitches.

02:10:41 Speaker_09
And sometimes it would be, you know, after they died or whatever, like, after they, like, you know, after the bones got blanched or whatever by the sun, we would fucking throw, you know, do like games or shit, but nothing. What?

02:10:54 Speaker_09
Or, you know, throw them at each other. You guys would throw bones at each other? Yeah, fucking six rib cages there, yeah.

02:11:01 Speaker_06
Bro welcome to Haiti, dude Sick a lot got immunized by the all the bacteria and finding dead animals got we yeah We had a good time, but nothing like that snake had in that ditch bring that thing back up I wonder how many fucking kids that get helicopter parented get allergic to more shit because they don't get exposed to things They're not crawling around

02:11:24 Speaker_06
playing in dirt and shit all that stuff's probably gotta be good for your body right when you're little kids especially playing in dirt playing outside oh yeah if you're just sheltered or whatever yeah just for your biome it's got to be good for you yeah I'm trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever you know I gotta ask my mom I guess yeah that snake was crazy that's the crazy thing to me man has seen a snake eat something like that

02:11:52 Speaker_06
Do you know how many snakes there are in the Everglades?

02:11:57 Speaker_09
There's more pythons.

02:11:58 Speaker_06
Let me guess. More pythons in the Everglades.

02:12:00 Speaker_09
I would guess 150,000. No, that's even low, I bet. I would bet 200,000. Wow.

02:12:03 Speaker_06
That's just a rough estimation. They could be off by a factor of who fucking knows. They don't really know. It's dense, dense, dense, dense jungle.

02:12:14 Speaker_09
Yeah, and the guy you're asking is probably like, yeah, there's probably 500. You know what I'm saying?

02:12:18 Speaker_06
I have this dude in here, Python Cowboy. He goes and hunts for them. He's got a dog and the dog will find the nests. He's pulling these giant ass pythons out of nests. That dog's been sexually assaulted, I bet. I'll say that, dude.

02:12:32 Speaker_06
That dog's a psychopath. It's going after something that can easily swallow it.

02:12:37 Speaker_09
Dude, that's a 77 pound deer. You see that? That thing is a damn sixth grader, dude. They eat alligators. That's crazy.

02:12:44 Speaker_06
This is the crazy thing. Because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades, 90% of all the mammals are missing. There's no mammals anymore.

02:12:54 Speaker_09
Oh, they ate them all.

02:12:55 Speaker_06
They ate them all. Wow. 90% are missing.

02:12:59 Speaker_09
How long does it take a snake to eat something that big?

02:13:02 Speaker_06
Well, the thing is the number of snakes like it's the perfect environment for those animals Like it's like they just got dropped off in paradise. Nothing eats them. There's no crocodiles snakes.

02:13:12 Speaker_06
Yeah, they're living Yeah, so some alligators must eat some of them.

02:13:15 Speaker_09
But how long does it take a snake to eat something?

02:13:17 Speaker_06
Look at this 2012 study found that Populations of raccoon had declined 99.3% Opossums 98.9% and bobcats 87.5% since 1997. Marsh rabbits, cottontail rabbits, and foxes effectively disappeared over that time.

02:13:36 Speaker_06
So they've essentially eradicated all the rabbits,

02:13:39 Speaker_09
The foxes, but how long does it like I mean it's unbelievable, but how long that's Satan working as well And how long does it take how long does it take a? Snake to digest like how long does it take one to get that deer right question I?

02:13:53 Speaker_09
Wonder I know that like is it days or is it like weeks?

02:13:59 Speaker_06
Let's guess okay a full deer One week I say one week

02:14:05 Speaker_09
That's pretty good guess.

02:14:06 Speaker_06
I was like antlers and shit. Yeah. Yeah, which I guess that do you think swallowed antlers? Do they go to for the bucks and swallow antlers?

02:14:13 Speaker_06
Well, I've been imagine swallowing you feel like such an asshole when the antler was going down You'd be like, oh my god. I can't believe I swallowed the antler.

02:14:21 Speaker_06
That's gonna take forever to break down He's gonna be rolling around with antlers inside your chest. I Oh, everywhere you go, ow, ow, just the revenge of that deer.

02:14:32 Speaker_09
There's no comfortable way to sleep. And what do they do with the antlers, man? Well, they must die. I'm sure they just get to that point and the rest of the body is deceased.

02:14:40 Speaker_06
Well, the antler is just bone, but it's so pokey. Like, look at it. I would bet three weeks. Isn't that the wildest thing that nature does, dude? Nature gives them weapons for a few months.

02:14:54 Speaker_06
This is what what happens with a deer like and when they stop breeding these fall off every year So these you find them on the ground they call them sheds you can only defend yourself while you're breeding Exactly, and it's offensive as much as it's defensive.

02:15:08 Speaker_06
They run at each other and clash you see them fighting it happens all the time It's pretty fucking cool. They go after each other and just fuck each other up and and

02:15:16 Speaker_09
Yeah, they'll see him sometimes hooked together. Yeah, I mean nature's danger and nature is really blow really Unbelievable, it's the number one person in the world.

02:15:26 Speaker_06
I saw a horrible video of these two deer that got locked together So yeah clashing antlers they got locked together and one of them got eaten by a coyote

02:15:35 Speaker_06
So one was still alive, connected to this body, couldn't get away, while the other one got torn apart by a coyote. And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him versus that, because neither one of them can get away.

02:15:48 Speaker_06
The coyotes recognized that they were locked into each other and just picked one and went after him, just gutted him.

02:15:54 Speaker_09
That's like when you're in a threesome and nobody wants to touch you, you know?

02:15:56 Speaker_03
Look at this thing. He's trying to eat one with antlers and got... Got fucked up. Oh, God. Oh, it cut his own body open? Bails on it.

02:16:06 Speaker_06
Oh, it split his body wide open. Oh, my God. Oh, look at his mouth. He's got the antlers stuck through his fucking jaw.

02:16:13 Speaker_09
I would hate some... I hate it when people take... Oh, he slid off of it.

02:16:17 Speaker_06
Wow.

02:16:18 Speaker_09
I hate it when people take a long time to eat, you know?

02:16:20 Speaker_06
It went right through him. Yeah.

02:16:22 Speaker_09
But don't you hate that though? Like when you're eating and somebody, um, you're done eating and they're still eating.

02:16:28 Speaker_06
That doesn't bother me at all. That bothers you? Yeah. Why? It doesn't bother me even a little bit. Really? No.

02:16:34 Speaker_09
Yeah. Like you're at a restaurant and they're done, right? They're done. You have to fucking, you're done. And they're still just, yeah.

02:16:41 Speaker_06
Well just talk to them.

02:16:42 Speaker_09
Yeah. But then you kind of, you feel like you have to pretend like you're still like scraping your bowl or whatever.

02:16:46 Speaker_06
No, no. You're thinking too much.

02:16:50 Speaker_09
I think it's crazy to sit there and watch somebody eat. That's funny. Do you? Yeah, bro. Why? Because, dude, they're eating. Yeah, but you were eating with them too. Yeah, but you're done. So what? Now you're just gonna fucking look at them?

02:17:03 Speaker_04
I'm just gonna look at them. Like, how is it?

02:17:06 Speaker_06
Tell me about each bite. No.

02:17:09 Speaker_09
I just, I feel like if somebody's already, if I, I don't like, I don't like when people eat real slow. Okay, makes me nervous.

02:17:16 Speaker_06
Well. You should just like be real clear about that before you go out with someone like let's eat Okay, like we can eat together, but I got this thing like when I'm done.

02:17:24 Speaker_06
You're done Imagine if you like super reasonable boyfriend in every other way, but you just had this rule when I'm done eating no one eats And she's like well. This is bullshit like I know it sounds crazy. I can't kick it. It's I have a tick I

02:17:43 Speaker_06
I have a psychological problem. I can't just sit there. So when I'm done eating, you have to be done. And I don't eat fast. I don't eat fast, but I'm warning you, when that fucking bell rings, all four of us are off the table.

02:17:57 Speaker_04
Bon Appetime's up, dude. That would be the weirdest thing that you were obsessed with.

02:18:03 Speaker_06
You have to end at the exact same time. Last bite.

02:18:06 Speaker_09
That kind of shit, yeah. That would make me ... Yeah, that kind of stuff. Little things kind of make me uncomfortable, dude. What else was I thinking about?

02:18:17 Speaker_09
pythons yeah pythons whales or whatever big animals dude it's crazy like how they have all those Airbnbs now where it's like you can stay in like a like a hollowed-out whale carcass out here on Like, Airbnbs, bring up some Airbnbs, please, sir.

02:18:37 Speaker_09
They've gotten weird. It's like, welcome to this, it's like, oh, it's like, welcome to this two-story whale carcass down here at Punta Verde, Mexico. They make up, it's like, Punta, every month there's a new Punta in Mexico.

02:18:50 Speaker_09
You're like, what the fuck are we doing? You renamed the city. Every time, it's like, welcome to fucking Punta Pescado, Mexico. You want to stay in this two-bedroom.

02:18:59 Speaker_06
You can stay in that, it's a potato. It's a giant potato. What is that? What did they call it? Okay, 10 weirdest Airbnb listings let you sleep in a shoe, an elephant, and a flying saucer. Yo, let's go to the flying saucer. Oh, shit. I want to stay there.

02:19:17 Speaker_06
That's yours, dude. Bro, if I wasn't married, I'd have the stupidest house. My house would be one of two things. I'd either have it built into the side of a hill like The Hobbit,

02:19:27 Speaker_06
Yeah, that'd be kind of dope or I would go full spaceship Yeah, just a house where a 16 year old boy would see it be like dude Yeah, just appear to the child in you. Like Kid Rock's vibe. Totally. Kid Rock's vibe.

02:19:43 Speaker_06
Kid Rock's White House, I maintain, is the coolest celebrity house I've ever been to.

02:19:47 Speaker_09
It's one of one, man.

02:19:48 Speaker_06
It's not just one of one. He's the only one that would even think about doing that. It's like him and maybe John Daly would build a fucking White House.

02:19:57 Speaker_09
John Daly's unbelievable, dude. It's awesome. Every time I go somewhere, every time he's there, an ambulance takes him home. It's fucking unbelievable, dude.

02:20:07 Speaker_09
Every time I'm there he like it's almost like he hits a hole in heaven dude I'm like this motherfuckers headed one time the ambulance came he they came in to look for him He went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with him, bro And they're in the place and they're like where is he and we're like he there's something everybody regulation about the overweight dude Who's really good at a game?

02:20:29 Speaker_09
Dude, do you see that golfer girl though? The girl that smokes? The female John Daly, dude?

02:20:34 Speaker_06
No.

02:20:35 Speaker_09
Yeah, puffin'.

02:20:35 Speaker_06
She hot? Oh, yeah, buddy. She smoke cigarettes? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:20:39 Speaker_09
Yeah, boy.

02:20:40 Speaker_06
She's hot? Yeah. Yeah. Whoa.

02:20:43 Speaker_09
Welcome to 1984. It's coming back.

02:20:47 Speaker_06
Let's do it, dude.

02:20:48 Speaker_09
Yeah, let's go. Because I got to get a damn wife, Joe Rogan.

02:20:51 Speaker_06
That's your move. Get yourself a golfer wife. Oh, look at that. Smoking cigarettes, looking hot. Let me see. Ooh, baby. And smoking in front of everybody, too. Yeah, she just rips darts on the... Is she from England? Yeah. Ah, there you go.

02:21:06 Speaker_09
Puffer McGavin, dude.

02:21:07 Speaker_06
They over there, they just fucking smoke. They smoke a lot more over there. Everybody's got a goddamn cigarette.

02:21:11 Speaker_09
Oh yeah, I'll smoke that lady.

02:21:14 Speaker_04
I bet you will.

02:21:15 Speaker_09
Sorry, that's insane. That sounds like a death threat. John Daly is like... Also, man, if she could be married, I have no idea, dude.

02:21:20 Speaker_04
Yeah, right? Don't be rude. Yeah, sorry, man.

02:21:22 Speaker_09
What the fuck's wrong with you, bro? I don't know.

02:21:23 Speaker_06
I'm just fucking... Everything's high strung today. There was a professional pool player. I'm on tour and all. His name was Kid Delicious. And everybody loved him because he was this big fat dude who played really good.

02:21:34 Speaker_06
But it was the big fat guy thing that people liked. Right. Like, oh, you don't have to be a fucking

02:21:39 Speaker_06
Athlete be any good to be a guy eating salads and fucking getting up in the morning doing yoga before you come to the pool Hall No, this guy is out there eating hot dogs. That was kid delicious.

02:21:48 Speaker_06
Yeah It's a great book about him John Wertheim, I think his name running the table. Oh Yeah.

02:21:56 Speaker_09
Yeah. People love short term fats, man. There's something about it. You know, there's a bigger guy and you know, you think he's not going to live long. There's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediately.

02:22:05 Speaker_06
But John Daly back in the day wasn't fat. He was like an athlete. This is just a lifetime of like living hard. Oh, he's a fucking- Look at him right there. He's a fucking stout dude.

02:22:16 Speaker_09
He looks you know Johnny is an exceptional guy great storyteller.

02:22:19 Speaker_06
He's a fucking he's the Santa Claus of every 7-eleven I've ever been to And he's a guy that's been playing Golf for like how many fucking years you know I don't know feel you must have that ball playing professional golf for all those years yeah

02:22:38 Speaker_09
He'll hit a 68 in an ICU, dude. This guy's one of a kind, I feel like. You know? Nobody could do it like him. He's exceptional.

02:22:45 Speaker_06
All he drinks is Diet Coke. Yeah, sure. He doesn't like water.

02:22:50 Speaker_09
He likes things other than Diet Coke.

02:22:51 Speaker_06
I'm sure, but he doesn't drink water. No, he's great, man. I'm sure he drinks alcohol, too.

02:22:56 Speaker_09
Yeah, don't you want to stay at this Airbnb? Don't you want to stay in this hollowed out moose carcass out here in Bend, Oregon? Do you? Don't you want to stay in our treehouse?

02:23:07 Speaker_04
Who built this?

02:23:10 Speaker_06
Where do I shit? Dude, Airbnbs have gotten so crazy.

02:23:15 Speaker_06
don't people rent out like tents and shit yeah it's yeah it's like they'll they'll supply you the tent and everything like it's just like regular shit people like yeah we'll go stay there you know if you don't want to set up a tent like i like camping but i'm too lazy to set up a tent i'll just show up at your house you get them rods and shit you got pain in the butt it's all like

02:23:35 Speaker_06
And you look sad in front of your wife too you're like and you're tying it down dink dink dink around dink dink dink And then you realize and you're just sleeping in a little cloth house.

02:23:43 Speaker_09
Yeah out in the woods.

02:23:45 Speaker_06
Hey, buddy Yeah, there's an Airbnb tent. That's nice. Dude. That's probably in Austin. You can fuck in this tent, bro.

02:23:52 Speaker_09
Fuck. Yeah You ever did a lot of fucking outdoors or what was your life like?

02:23:56 Speaker_06
Outdoor fucking is the way to go. I ain't scared of mosquitoes I'm an outdoor fucker, whenever possible.

02:24:02 Speaker_09
Did you ever do any when you were younger, Joe?

02:24:03 Speaker_06
When I was a kid, yeah, I stuck away in the woods. Me and this one girl, we were fooling around in the woods. We never got to the actual sex part. We got close. We got ate alive by mosquitoes who tried to get naked outside.

02:24:13 Speaker_06
And so like literally our whole bodies was covered in mosquito bites. It was horrific.

02:24:17 Speaker_09
We all near a stream, or was it more landlocked area?

02:24:19 Speaker_06
It was near a river. Yeah. Yeah, it was near the Charles River.

02:24:22 Speaker_09
My guy.

02:24:23 Speaker_06
Yeah. Kids would just go into the woods, you know? We'd always find kids drinking in the woods. Yeah. You know? Like, we lived in an area. I lived in Newton, Massachusetts, when I was in high school. And Newton is a great town, like a really cool area.

02:24:37 Speaker_06
And where I lived, which is called Upper Falls, there was all these, like, woods and trees and shit, and the river was right across the street from my house.

02:24:46 Speaker_06
It was like, it was always these wild kids like playing Billy Squire on a boombox and smoking cigarettes. It was like The Outsiders. It was really interesting. And then one kid would get a car, like, oh shit, Bobby's got a car.

02:24:59 Speaker_09
Oh, it was the best, dude.

02:25:01 Speaker_06
Bobby's driving us around.

02:25:02 Speaker_09
Rockford Fosgate's in the trunk, just coming down the street.

02:25:06 Speaker_06
Due to this day, one of my favorite cars, I have a 1970 Chevelle. You own it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, bring it up. I would like to see it. But when I was a kid, before I had a car, my friend picked me up in his buddy's car. I didn't know the other dude.

02:25:21 Speaker_06
I met him from school or something like that, but I didn't know him. And he picked me up in this 1970 Chevelle. It was black with white stripes, and it was perfect. And I remember I saw it, I was like, how does he own this? How can you own this?

02:25:38 Speaker_06
That's how I felt. I was sitting in the backseat of the car, I was like, this car is so crazy that you could own this car. And I remember he ran out of gas, but coasted right into the gas station and stopped the car in front.

02:25:54 Speaker_06
It was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen in my life. There's nothing better. The guy owned that car somehow. As a 16-year-old boy, I was looking at this car going, How did you do this? How did you do it?

02:26:05 Speaker_06
Let's see it No, that's That's a different car Jamie. That's my 1970 Barracuda.

02:26:13 Speaker_06
That's a beautiful 70 Chevelle's on anywhere, but it's just a Google black 70 Chevelle SS white stripes Do there's nothing there's nothing like that's it There's nothing like running out of gas and coast into the fucking pump

02:26:29 Speaker_06
Mine looks almost exactly like that. But that's exactly like this kid's looked when he picked me up and I got a ride in his car. I was like, that's a 69. That's another amazing car. But that one, the upper one in the middle, that's my actual car.

02:26:42 Speaker_06
That's my car.

02:26:43 Speaker_05
Ooh, wow.

02:26:44 Speaker_06
Yeah.

02:26:45 Speaker_05
Dude, I love that thing.

02:26:47 Speaker_06
That's my favorite. I think at all of them. I love it so much It's just because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16 year old kid and this guy had this car I was like, how do you have this car? How is this even possible?

02:26:58 Speaker_06
Do you have this car?

02:26:59 Speaker_09
Yeah.

02:27:00 Speaker_09
Oh That was great, dude If a crate if an older if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car that was like Yeah getting into like somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling as you couldn't believe it

02:27:13 Speaker_06
Yeah, you were like the things that we completely take for granted like your buddy picks you up and give you a ride Like hey, what's up? How's it going on?

02:27:20 Speaker_06
It's normal for you now like I'm just sitting in my friend's car, but back then it was like whoa

02:27:26 Speaker_09
Whoa, how do what do you yeah?

02:27:28 Speaker_06
Hey play something cool on the radio everything meant something I remember my friend Mike was taking flying lessons when I was in high school and I went up in an airplane with him when I was 14 he were both 14, and he was taking flight lessons when I was What the fuck I'm letting this 14 year old kid fly me around with him in a plane and an instructor I

02:27:54 Speaker_06
Yeah, but back then, you would just do shit. You were so thrilled just to get out of your fucking house. You'd hop in your buddy's backseat, you're like, where are we going? I don't know, man, we're gonna go to Bobby's house.

02:28:06 Speaker_06
All right, you're listening to songs on the radio. You couldn't believe you were in a car.

02:28:10 Speaker_09
Yeah, and it mattered if your hand was out the window, the window was down, if the window was up, how you were operating, if the seatbelt was on, if your arms were over the seat. You wanna look cool. Yes, you wanna look cool.

02:28:19 Speaker_06
You got one hand on the steering wheel, one hand out the window.

02:28:22 Speaker_09
And you thought everybody you drove past looked at you. What's up, kids?

02:28:26 Speaker_06
How you doing?

02:28:27 Speaker_09
What's up, kid? Just looking for some pussy.

02:28:30 Speaker_06
I remember when I was in high school, there was this one dude who was like, I think he was a couple of years older than us, and he graduated, but he was dating a girl that still went to the high school, and he had an IROC-Z Camaro.

02:28:46 Speaker_09
With the T-tops or no?

02:28:51 Speaker_06
And this dude pulled in front of the high school and everybody like couldn't believe it He was like the coolest guy alive. Look at him in his iRog Z picking up the girl that none of us can date We salute you

02:29:06 Speaker_09
Yeah, god. I fucking remember that shit dude.

02:29:09 Speaker_06
I remember my brother one time fucking I got more of the story Sorry going that dude who had that I rock ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them through the city for miles

02:29:22 Speaker_06
just tried to like get the body out from under his car a couple times but couldn't do it but just kept driving so driving around this IROG-Z with a person stuck under the car driving for miles

02:29:39 Speaker_09
I hate that kind of thing. Have you ever had like a bag stuck under your car or whatever?

02:29:42 Speaker_06
Yes, that's different.

02:29:43 Speaker_09
I'm joking.

02:29:44 Speaker_06
I feel like if you drive over someone, maybe pull over. Hey, maybe pull over. But I don't know, pull over. Dude, what do you do at that point? There's like guys that you hear about from high school.

02:29:57 Speaker_06
It's like you feel like you're in a Stephen King book, like stand by me or something like that, you know?

02:30:02 Speaker_09
Oh, totally. Everything felt like kind of had the Stephen King vibes back then, you know?

02:30:06 Speaker_06
Well just people just disappeared back then and there was no phones and there was no internet and you barely remembered people if you didn't see him for a month. Yeah. Like you didn't even have a picture.

02:30:16 Speaker_06
I have like five pictures of my friends from high school you know and mostly because my friend Jimmy sends them to me. But it's like you don't remember. You don't remember what anybody looked like. You don't remember anything. But now, too much.

02:30:29 Speaker_06
Now you know everything. But back then, it's like you would hear about this, like one of the guys you went to high school with, he got in trouble, and like, oh no, now he's in jail. Yeah. Whoa. Todd's in jail. Yeah, whoa.

02:30:42 Speaker_06
I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail. Yeah. He was friends with my friend, the first guy I ever met that was in jail. And he had just the weirdest vibe.

02:30:50 Speaker_06
I had a buddy of mine who actually was a training partner of mine who was one guy. He was like this one way and then he went to jail on a drug charge and he came out like three years later. He was a totally different person.

02:31:03 Speaker_10
Oh wow.

02:31:04 Speaker_06
He was super jacked. I don't know if he was doing steroids or what, but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and super dangerous. And he was telling me these stories about jail and about all the fights that he had gotten into in jail.

02:31:18 Speaker_06
And he got almost like a fight to the death with a mob stick in this guy. He was telling me these horrific fights, and it had just changed him, man.

02:31:28 Speaker_06
I mean, I'd never experienced something like that before, where I knew a guy before he went to prison, and then I knew him after prison, and he was just a completely different person, and fucking very dangerous to spar with. Like, very dangerous.

02:31:41 Speaker_06
Like, he would try to kill you. We would have wars. Like, they weren't really sparring matches. They were fights.

02:31:48 Speaker_09
People were, yeah, some people got dangerous, dude. Especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear, you know?

02:31:53 Speaker_06
This guy, I think, was both. I think he was on gear and I think he was doing coke. Because I know he was selling coke. I know he was getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up dying. But here's where it gets really crazy.

02:32:09 Speaker_06
while I knew this guy, like while he was training at the same gym as me, he got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant, I think he was an informant, they found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine to keep him alive while they were breaking his bones.

02:32:31 Speaker_06
So from him blacking out from the pain, they were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer. I think they cut his hands and his head off too.

02:32:44 Speaker_06
And he got implicated or at least questioned about that. I was like, yo.

02:32:53 Speaker_09
Imagine even being in the other room while that's going on.

02:32:56 Speaker_06
Yeah.

02:32:56 Speaker_09
You know, even trying to watch a show or whatever.

02:33:01 Speaker_06
You're like, keep it down! Can't you guys insulate your torture house? It's fucking up the rest of the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean, what the fuck, dude?

02:33:12 Speaker_09
I would never be able to torture somebody, I don't think. I'm trying to think of the things I could do to somebody.

02:33:18 Speaker_06
You might be able to do it if someone did something to your loved ones. I think you'd be surprised at what a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of her children.

02:33:28 Speaker_09
And a father too, huh?

02:33:29 Speaker_06
Oh yeah, but I mean even mothers who you wouldn't think of as being violent.

02:33:34 Speaker_09
And do you think it's a choice they make or you think it's something that's just inside?

02:33:37 Speaker_06
It's inside of you and you there's a choice too, but it's inside of you You're like we have instincts to protect our kids, you know, and you could get crazy violent Yeah, and normal regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children Well, you know and it also seemed like there's a lot of cases now where people are deceasing their own children

02:33:55 Speaker_06
Killing their own children. Yeah, there's always been that man. There's always been evil people, but it's just crazy You know have children.

02:34:01 Speaker_06
Yeah, man, there's people that poison their kids There's this this is evil people out there and in every you know stretch of the world You're gonna get a certain percentage of our population that just doesn't come out, right?

02:34:13 Speaker_09
You know and that's normal. It's like everything. There's always a percentage. That's just not right. Yeah, I

02:34:17 Speaker_06
Well, whatever that struggle that the human race is involved in is if you wanted to break it down and I just Philosophically, it's essentially a struggle between good and evil always.

02:34:28 Speaker_06
It's always a struggle between good and evil Yeah, and you're always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome and I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small but I think it it enforces this idea to do good and

02:34:42 Speaker_06
And the good conquers evil if everybody works together cooperatively. But you need something if you don't have resistance.

02:34:50 Speaker_06
It feels like people with the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society, improve upon our own lives. We're always like trying for progress. Right. I think that's all sort of tied in to competition.

02:35:05 Speaker_06
And competition needs a foe. You need an antagonist and a protagonist. You need resistance. And I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world.

02:35:15 Speaker_06
The fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love, and it motivates people to stop evil, and it motivates people to limit evil. You know, like the calls for law and order in this country, like during the riots, remember?

02:35:28 Speaker_06
When everybody was like, we need law and order. We need law and order. You can't have just people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order. That kind of stuff. It's like, that's good versus evil.

02:35:39 Speaker_06
It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died unjustly. That's crazy. You're just using this as an opportunity to say, fuck everyone.

02:35:49 Speaker_06
You can't have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can't have that.

02:35:53 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:35:54 Speaker_06
You just you can't have that. So like when you encounter these different things it makes you appreciate not having those things. So it motivates you. One of the things that got people excited about

02:36:07 Speaker_06
Trump being in office is that he wanted to get away from all this defund the police shit. He wanted to get the country back to law and order. He wants us to increase manufacturing, all the things that make people feel good about the future.

02:36:22 Speaker_09
Give you purpose.

02:36:23 Speaker_06
Yeah. And they didn't feel that way about the message that they were hearing from the other side. They felt like it was going to be more of the same shit. And more of the same shit doesn't get anything done.

02:36:34 Speaker_06
We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don't want to be involved in.

02:36:37 Speaker_09
Yeah, shut it down. Shut down everything that doesn't have to do with us, I feel like, for a while. It's like, there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even healed from in this country, you know?

02:36:46 Speaker_06
Yeah.

02:36:46 Speaker_09
That's the biggest thing. I think there's a lot of things that we haven't healed from that we should try to address as a group, you know?

02:36:52 Speaker_09
that could be like you know everything from Native American times slavery times opioid epidemic there's tons of things I feel like that it's like and I don't know how you do that I mean I know time has a lot to do with it but it's like I just don't know if sending our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now when it's like we could

02:37:15 Speaker_09
I think try at least to help.

02:37:16 Speaker_06
Well, Trump thinks he can fix these overseas conflicts. I don't know if he can. But the point is, like, something has to be done. We can't just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves. That seems crazy.

02:37:27 Speaker_06
And if you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves, well, we're not spending the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have.

02:37:34 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's like even if you look at like, um, you know, recently, I learned, sorry, recently, I learned that like, the number one cause of medical debt is insurance is medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America, right?

02:37:51 Speaker_06
Is it really? Yeah, that's crazy.

02:37:54 Speaker_09
It's crazy that there's just such a laundering system that goes on. It's money laundering.

02:37:59 Speaker_06
Well, between hospitals and insurance companies. Yeah, there's definitely, I mean, if you talk to Brigham Bueller from Waste Well, he'll explain to you. Yeah, I just went there the other day. He's the man.

02:38:08 Speaker_09
I went to Kuya and I went there, dude.

02:38:10 Speaker_06
I've been trying to get well while I'm here. Trying to get well.

02:38:12 Speaker_09
It's been tough.

02:38:13 Speaker_06
What were we just talking about?

02:38:16 Speaker_06
Medical debt yeah, he'll explain it real well It's like it's a you know it's kind of a fucked-up system But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt because you're out of work because you got a medical issue Then you have medical bills if you don't have insurance you're really fucked if you don't have insurance like wolf But it's just a scam like the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries just things that it's like our government doesn't want to make better deals because there's this middleman that's making a lot of money off of it you know

02:38:44 Speaker_06
There's that. I don't know. There's definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money.

02:38:50 Speaker_05
I don't know.

02:38:50 Speaker_06
Also companies that we need. You know Pfizer makes good stuff. I mean these companies make really beneficial drugs too. Yeah. But it's just the problem with all these fucking people is.

02:39:01 Speaker_06
They just want to make more money constantly, and if they can get you taking more pills than you need, they will. That's how they sell. They want to sell pills. They can come up with a reason. Are you anxious? I am a little. Hey! Here you go.

02:39:13 Speaker_06
And next thing you know, you're dependent.

02:39:15 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's like, do you have two legs? You ever been on a bicycle? Like, the things are just crazy, you know?

02:39:19 Speaker_06
Do your feet itch?

02:39:21 Speaker_09
Yeah. You ever had oatmeal raisin cookies, and you're like, well, fuck it. This is me, I think.

02:39:27 Speaker_06
We can't let them advertise. People are still gonna buy the drugs, but the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media, too. It affects what people are allowed to investigate. It affects what the...

02:39:37 Speaker_06
The news is because the news is not gonna give you everything they're gonna conveniently ignore things that would affect their partnerships Yeah, if you have a yeah, it's all advertising. Yeah, what did we say?

02:39:48 Speaker_06
It was again the amount of billions of dollars they spend every year on advertising pharmaceutical drug companies Did you um?

02:39:57 Speaker_09
Were you? Were you nervous about endorsing Trump or no I

02:40:02 Speaker_06
I usually try to stay out of it.

02:40:04 Speaker_09
Yeah.

02:40:04 Speaker_06
But I felt like I was getting urged to by Dana and every other is quite a few people. I didn't think it makes a difference. I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and that some radical change need to take place.

02:40:18 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:40:20 Speaker_06
In my opinion, I just I'm not buying like, you know, when we're talking about before with the way the country feels like the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky.

02:40:32 Speaker_06
Because regardless of what you thought about his policies, what you did in place, it was real clear something was wrong with him. And they were lying to us. Oh, yeah. So that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy, right?

02:40:45 Speaker_06
Even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction, the economy is moving in the right general direction, even if you agree to those things, when you have a guy that's at the front that's obviously

02:41:01 Speaker_06
in some way compromised. There's something going on. Something going on that they don't want to admit. And everybody knows it and he drifts off and he says things that don't make sense and something's wrong.

02:41:11 Speaker_06
So everybody feels uncomfortable, even if everything's going well, right? Because for good or for bad, that person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country. And the tone for the last four years was confusion.

02:41:27 Speaker_06
So regardless of their policies, the tone that's being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk. There's word salad.

02:41:37 Speaker_06
And then, you know, there's like these moments where it seems like she just doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence, which can just be nerves. It could just be nerves talking in front of large groups of people. It doesn't mean she's not brilliant.

02:41:48 Speaker_06
It doesn't. It really doesn't. Some people.

02:41:49 Speaker_09
She was new and kind of thrown into it.

02:41:51 Speaker_06
But some people clam up when they have to do those things. But then there's the argument that's the job, though.

02:41:56 Speaker_06
You have to be able to do that because you're going to have to be able to talk to Putin and presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world. You've got to be able to handle pressure. So that's kind of part of it, too.

02:42:09 Speaker_06
Part of it, too, is you've got to be able to handle pressure. But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic, you know, and that then that's the tone of the country.

02:42:18 Speaker_06
And the tone of the country is not like the tone of the Obama administration I always felt was the best because he was measured, never attacked anybody, was very articulate and smooth. Yeah, he's smooth. There was not a lot of ums and ahs.

02:42:32 Speaker_06
Like some people, Trump throws too many extra words in, but it's just his flavor. His flavor, he rambles, he goes all up.

02:42:38 Speaker_06
The plays like I joke look at this hair what is wrong with my hair he makes fun He's like doing stand-up up there Obama was the smoothest and Clinton Clinton was pretty fucking smooth to listen maybe Clinton and Obama Those are the goats so like when you get a person for good or for bad that's smooth and talks like a professional like an actual president it makes everybody like

02:43:01 Speaker_06
He's got this this guy's a real professional real professional president like look at him. Yeah with trump. You're like I hate taylor swift like no Don't do that. Don't say that.

02:43:11 Speaker_06
Yeah, you pressed the wrong button today, buddy He tweeted out that this that lady that he allegedly slept with was uh, he called her horse face. Why was the president?

02:43:22 Speaker_05
It's so crazy to do.

02:43:24 Speaker_06
It's fucking unreal. But for a lot of super sensitive people and progressive people, that's why they want to believe that he's Hitler. They look at these things and then they don't look at it as a flavor in the soup, like, look, it's all pepper.

02:43:37 Speaker_06
No, it's not all pepper. Pepper's a part of it. Yeah, he probably shouldn't tweet, I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever. What's important is, what is he going to do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems?

02:43:50 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:43:50 Speaker_06
And can he do it? And can he keep all these people in his staff, RFK Jr.? I don't know. I don't know if he could do it. I'm curious. But if he can, at least we have hope.

02:43:58 Speaker_06
If RFK really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up some of the corruption in the system- Could be exciting. It'd be exciting. Yeah. It'd be good for people.

02:44:06 Speaker_06
If we stop putting ingredients in foods that are illegal in Canada because they're dangerous, how about we stop doing that here?

02:44:12 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:44:13 Speaker_06
Seems like a logical thing. It's not like Froot Loops in Canada sell that less.

02:44:16 Speaker_09
Yeah.

02:44:17 Speaker_06
It's probably equal sales.

02:44:19 Speaker_09
And people would get unaddicted quick. You're really just getting people addicted to things, you know?

02:44:22 Speaker_06
I don't even understand.

02:44:23 Speaker_09
And how about we prosecute that fucking Sackler family that fucking killed hundreds of thousands of people in our country? How about that? How about that?

02:44:28 Speaker_06
Yeah.

02:44:28 Speaker_09
How about that?

02:44:29 Speaker_06
Well, you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity.

02:44:32 Speaker_10
Huh?

02:44:32 Speaker_06
They were trying to buy immunity. They were going to have like a settlement where they would give X amount of billions of dollars, but then they were immune to prosecution.

02:44:38 Speaker_09
But isn't that what they did, though?

02:44:39 Speaker_06
But I think what happened was they put a pause on that after the Netflix documentary came out. Wow.

02:44:45 Speaker_09
That was we talked about it once but I don't know where it's at now But that family they made billions of dollars by getting people hooked on opium on fucking this family is mass murderers Yeah, if they anybody with the last name they should I don't give a kick that gene pool out of our fucking country Those people are fucking murderers, dude I think a lot of people still haven't gotten over that shit and you know the same family that was involved in Valium Yeah

02:45:12 Speaker_09
I do know that.

02:45:12 Speaker_06
Mother's little helper? That was Valium. That's what ladies in the fucking 60s were taking Valium.

02:45:17 Speaker_09
Heartless fucking lizards. Get those motherfuckers out of here. And that's one thing, that was one of the reasons why I was supportive of Vance.

02:45:26 Speaker_09
I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing and I hope that it'll get, I don't know if he can do anything because lobbies are so big now.

02:45:34 Speaker_06
Wasn't someone in his family an addict?

02:45:36 Speaker_09
Yeah, his mother suffered from addiction, you know.

02:45:37 Speaker_06
Right, right.

02:45:38 Speaker_09
But he's just seeing it, you know.

02:45:40 Speaker_06
Make sure that the sacrofemme was involved in the Valium thing. I don't want to have to edit that out. As if I called them a piece of shit about one thing, but hey, we weren't a piece of shit about that other thing. I think they were, though.

02:45:50 Speaker_09
I just, that shit, like, even thinking about it, bro, it makes me so angry.

02:45:55 Speaker_06
You know, because you don't know the family member. Yeah. Arthur Sackler, a member of the Sackler family, was a major figure in the promotion of Valium through direct marketing to physicians in the 1960s. Yeah, that is it. So same family. Yeah. Evil. Evil.

02:46:07 Speaker_06
It's literally evil. Like it's destroying lives.

02:46:10 Speaker_09
It's the devil. It's the devil.

02:46:12 Speaker_06
It's a drug dealer. It's one of the worst drug dealers, because you're sneaking around with doctors. You're sneaking around under this guise of authority.

02:46:20 Speaker_09
Well, one of the problems is that, say if you work for a politician in DC, they can only pay you so much money by law to work with them and help put their bills together.

02:46:36 Speaker_09
So at a certain point, the lobbyists can pay more to those same people who've been writing bills.

02:46:42 Speaker_09
for the congressman for the senators so they didn't go to work as lobbyists that's one of the biggest problems right so a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries right and that we also have a law that a lot we also don't have a law that stops people once you work for one side that you can't work for the other right right that's the thing with the fda pharmaceutical drug company and i'm

02:47:01 Speaker_09
I'm not saying that there's, I don't know the answer. I'm just saying that that's one of the things, that's one of the reasons why that happened. It's a conflict of interest. Right.

02:47:08 Speaker_06
For sure. And it's just, nobody regulated it. They allowed it to happen. It should be, if you're working for the FDA, should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company where you then make incredible amounts of money.

02:47:22 Speaker_06
That seems like a conflict of interest. If you had had conversations with these people, and they'd say, listen, you're nice to us in a couple of years. Golden parachute. You want a yacht? I think you need a yacht.

02:47:36 Speaker_06
You're a millionaire, which is bizarre that you can do that. It's just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress. You know that a bill is going to get passed. You know this bill is going to affect a stock. You gamble high on that stock.

02:47:49 Speaker_06
The bill gets passed.

02:47:51 Speaker_06
and you make a lot of money that seems illegal that seems illegal yes cheating that seems crazy but there's a lot of those things man and this the system was set up by people and people are flawed right that's a good point yeah it's like nothing no one's going to do anything perfectly i don't know

02:48:09 Speaker_06
Well it's not just that. Accountability and transparency in terms of what's actually going on is way different now because our access to information is way different now.

02:48:21 Speaker_06
Anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that and you find out things about the Pentagon and that about this. There's just, you don't have to look in the New York Times anymore.

02:48:32 Speaker_06
You know, you don't have to wait for the news to come on at five. Now you get it whenever you want it. And that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with.

02:48:40 Speaker_06
So for the longest time, even though there's rules and the Constitution set up in the Bill of Rights, There's been people that have had a lot of power for a long ass time without a bunch of people looking at them.

02:48:52 Speaker_06
And now more people are looking at them than ever before. And then you get this guy like Trump comes in like, FBI, they're crooked.

02:48:59 Speaker_05
Whoa, bro, what are you doing? You're going to war with the CIA?

02:49:03 Speaker_09
He's like that drunk uncle, dude. Bro, what about Barron Trump, dude? There's no credit. Whatever you think about this election, the whole thing to me is fascinating. First of all, because Dana White made so much stuff happen.

02:49:19 Speaker_06
Dana White made the Trump thing happen, for sure. He was trying to get me to have Trump on in like 2017. Bro, you would hear rumors of that in the distance. Bro, he would call me up, he'd call me up, Joe, listen, the president wants to do your podcast.

02:49:32 Speaker_06
I go, you mean Trump? You gotta change the name of it. What are you doing, man? Why are you trying to get me in trouble? You know, and back then, I was like, I don't want to be a part of this. There's too many people angry, too many people pissed off.

02:49:44 Speaker_06
I was like, I don't need to. And I didn't pay attention to it enough. I didn't pay attention to the way they were misrepresenting things that he had said enough.

02:49:55 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:49:55 Speaker_06
I didn't really. My wake up call was when they went after me, when CNN went after me. I was like, yo, this is crazy. You think I'm taking veterinary drugs, bitch?

02:50:04 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:50:04 Speaker_06
Like, what the fuck are you talking about? This is the dumb. Also, Why are you upset that I got better quick? Like, what is this about? Like, that I took veterinary drugs and got better quick?

02:50:13 Speaker_09
And why in the article, hey, well, when you herald it, say, hey, this could be a possibility.

02:50:17 Speaker_06
You know, it's like... Not only that, it's just that there's no way they didn't know that it was for humans.

02:50:22 Speaker_09
Those people are, it's all sick.

02:50:23 Speaker_06
But when I saw that, and that was so minor in comparison to the way they've come out to Trump, because they come out to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit. And I don't think he's a perfect person. I think he's fun.

02:50:35 Speaker_06
And I think he's a very competitive guy, which is why he likes playing golf so much, and it's why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again. And he pulled it off.

02:50:43 Speaker_06
And the best thing that I've heard from people on the left is, it's not the result that we wanted, but we hope the country can come together. And I think we should all have that mentality. This idea that we're all separate. We're on Team USA.

02:50:56 Speaker_06
And I think we should just like all publicly state nobody gives a fuck where you're from, what you do. You're on Team USA. We're all in this shit together. That's it. Oh yeah. That's it. Let's forget about all this identity politics nonsense.

02:51:12 Speaker_06
But is that going to happen you think? At least we can put that thought out there instead of everyone's racist, everyone's a Nazi. That ain't helping nobody. You're just pushing people further and further away.

02:51:25 Speaker_06
The people that used to identify as left, they've been forced to these sort of center-right positions just to maintain normalcy.

02:51:31 Speaker_06
Yeah, when you're giving puberty blockers to kids and you're opening up gender-affirming care clinics and treating kids like shut the fuck up You're not on the right side.

02:51:40 Speaker_06
You think you're on the right side because you think you're being compassionate What you're doing is crazy to most people and we don't want it and we think you might be like in a cult like you're it's a giant cult of leftists that think crazy things and

02:51:55 Speaker_06
And they're allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen in society, like the no cash bail thing. Things you think are good. Structural racism is why there's so many people in prison. But you can't just let people out who shoot people.

02:52:08 Speaker_06
You can't just have people robbing people and right back out on the street. You can't have that. You can't have that. You'll have a full deterioration of society and no one will thrive. And you'll be under chaos.

02:52:18 Speaker_06
You'll be like living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade. You can't just keep this trend going. You're going to fall apart. And it's these idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen.

02:52:29 Speaker_06
These people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done. but it can be done. There's a version of all of these different communist philosophies that you can imply. There's socialism that could work, right?

02:52:43 Speaker_06
There's a version of it that can work and make it more equitable for everybody. But the end of that is always one thing. It's totalitarian control over what you say and do.

02:52:54 Speaker_06
Because as soon as you want to redistribute funds, as soon as you want to tell people they can't have things anymore, then you're going to have to take it from them.

02:53:01 Speaker_09
Yeah. Well, I think like to me, everything kind of started to feel like this privatized communism, right? Like once the post office didn't work, I was like, the government's fucked, dude.

02:53:11 Speaker_09
I was like, these bastards can't even get a package to fucking Toledo in two days, dude.

02:53:14 Speaker_04
You know, like, but the problem with the post office is that there's like UPS now.

02:53:20 Speaker_09
Right, but it all but you go in there dude. It's like a western. They're serving liquor at the counter like it's Yeah, it's supposed to it's gotten to great. It's gone downhill. They have liquor.

02:53:28 Speaker_09
I mean they don't but they You could probably score a gram up there at the cat like it's got it's gone. You know the doors. There's no hinges on it's done Dude, it's the wild west over there post office. You go do bro every post office.

02:53:42 Speaker_09
All of them are bad, bro 75% of the post offices are, it's gotten, but I just use that as an example of like a government, it just like started to fall apart, right?

02:53:52 Speaker_06
The last time I saw a post office was the last election. That was the last time I went to a post office.

02:53:58 Speaker_09
Well, yeah.

02:53:59 Speaker_06
The last election when I mailed in my California ballot.

02:54:01 Speaker_09
Yeah. And how many, you mailed in 20 million of them apparently. How many, uh, And at that time, was there a saloon happening in there?

02:54:10 Speaker_06
What is that, like, at least cause for concern, that leap in numbers?

02:54:15 Speaker_10
Yeah.

02:54:17 Speaker_06
What is it now, Jamie? Do we know what the official numbers are now?

02:54:19 Speaker_03
The California one hasn't really... I don't know why it hasn't updated more.

02:54:23 Speaker_06
California, they're digging in their heels.

02:54:25 Speaker_09
They don't want to make the election real. I don't think either one of these parties is what the... People say, like, Democrat. They're not the same parties it was 15 years ago.

02:54:33 Speaker_06
Most people are waking up to that. That's why, if you look at the map of California... There's something new going on.

02:54:37 Speaker_06
Look at the map of California red and blue from 2016 and then look at it from or rather 2020 and then 2024 There's a giant difference a job.

02:54:46 Speaker_06
I mean a giant difference a giant difference in the amount of counties that went red Yeah, it's just the big population centers are always gonna be blue there They're in the trance if you're in San Francisco, and if you're in Los Angeles You're in the trance like 70% of those people are in the trance.

02:55:01 Speaker_09
There's this they also believe things that mean something to them so they're not like because

02:55:06 Speaker_06
Right, but socially they're connected to all these ideas, you know, and socially they're all like hyper liberal They're socially locked into like this mindset. It doesn't allow questioning Narratives doesn't allow questioning these ideas.

02:55:21 Speaker_06
So like the idea of questioning science was like there's no way you're we're science denier Yeah, I give you a science time

02:55:27 Speaker_06
You couldn't even say, like, hey, are you sure that these companies who have been lying their entire careers, they've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for lying. We know they lie.

02:55:38 Speaker_06
You sure they're telling you the truth about this drug when they haven't? Injected giant swaths of the population with it before but they're gonna do it now. Yeah, and they promise it's gonna work Yeah, and then they're lying about the promises.

02:55:50 Speaker_06
They're lying about whether it stops transmission. They never even tested for that They're lying from whether or not it stops you from being infected.

02:55:56 Speaker_09
They didn't test for that either Well, the same people that own this own the publication company. It's just starting to be so obvious. It's like I don't know.

02:56:03 Speaker_06
It's just money, man. It's just money.

02:56:05 Speaker_09
At what point does money mean something over the fact of somebody's peace of mind and health and wellness? That's the thing I don't understand.

02:56:14 Speaker_06
Because they've used their money wisely to connect it to an ideology. So this is what it is.

02:56:20 Speaker_06
If you're a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine denier, even if it's not even really a vaccine, I mean, you're calling it a vaccine, but that's kind of a sneaky move because it doesn't really work like a regular vaccine does. It works completely novel.

02:56:32 Speaker_06
It's a completely new thing. and if you can connect that with the people that's the The logical educated people that are reasonable and convince them that you can't look at it sideways You can never examine it. You can never question it.

02:56:47 Speaker_06
You never question whether or not it's even necessary You just have to go with it You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them you can't you got to reject that because that was crazy and

02:57:00 Speaker_06
Because you have that emergency use authorization thing.

02:57:03 Speaker_09
That wasn't cool, man. I never took it, and guess what? Doing great, you know? Yeah, I'm depressed. I'm suffering from depression. Yeah, had a lot of issues and back pain today. But yeah, cry online a lot, but still.

02:57:14 Speaker_06
You're not hanging around with us. Come hang out here, man. Come move.

02:57:18 Speaker_09
I know, this year's been busy, man.

02:57:20 Speaker_06
Bro, if you lived in town, you'd be hanging out all the time. I know. You'd feel better. You'd feel better. You need a little community. I know you, dude. You get weird when you're by yourself too long, you get weird.

02:57:31 Speaker_09
Oh, and I spend a lot of time by myself, you know.

02:57:33 Speaker_06
You call to check to see if people still like you.

02:57:35 Speaker_09
Did I do that?

02:57:36 Speaker_06
Yeah.

02:57:40 Speaker_09
That's most of my childhood.

02:57:41 Speaker_05
Did I really do that? One time you did. Oh.

02:57:43 Speaker_09
Yeah.

02:57:43 Speaker_05
I believe that.

02:57:44 Speaker_06
I was like, what are you talking about? What are you talking about? I'm like, man, I just want to make sure we're cool.

02:57:49 Speaker_05
Oh, I believe that.

02:57:50 Speaker_06
I'm like, of course we're cool. Like, what are you talking about? What happened? Nothing, just we ain't talked for a while.

02:57:55 Speaker_09
Wow, did I really do that?

02:57:56 Speaker_06
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:57:57 Speaker_09
I believe you a hundred percent.

02:57:58 Speaker_06
Yeah, it was it was a weird conversation.

02:58:00 Speaker_09
Fuck, that's the story of my life, dude. Calling people to make sure we're okay.

02:58:04 Speaker_06
Yeah, but I know you, man. So when you call me, I'm like all three of you just need some love, you know? You're out there in the woods by yourself. Can't be alone, man.

02:58:12 Speaker_09
Well, I think part of me, I wanted to do, I've always just wanted, I wanted to do like my own thing, you know, but then you start to realize that there's a that you, yeah, you're doing it by yourself.

02:58:22 Speaker_09
And I think that goes for like, whether it's work relationships or personal relationships too, you know, I think it's just like, it's been the same psychology for me, you know, like, I'm the, I'll think, I never thought about this, I'll think to myself, I wanna be in a relationship, but I wanna do it on my own.

02:58:45 Speaker_09
I just realized that, dude.

02:58:46 Speaker_03
That's amazing.

02:58:47 Speaker_09
But it's, that's how, there's something, it's just like- Well, you can marry yourself, people do that. Ugh, I would hate that, dude. I'm always just chasing myself trying to jerk me off. I wouldn't get any sleep, dude. That would be a nightmare.

02:59:02 Speaker_06
That would be a real problem.

02:59:05 Speaker_09
Yeah, man. I do want to be around a group more.

02:59:10 Speaker_06
Doing it by yourself, but you are doing it by yourself, right? So you're doing your podcast by yourself, you're doing your stand-up by yourself. The thing about a club is you're doing it by yourself while everybody else is also doing it by themselves.

02:59:23 Speaker_06
Right, so you're around the same. But you're hanging out. You're having fun. You're charging up your love batteries. That's what it is.

02:59:30 Speaker_09
Oh, the other night, even just being there, being able to laugh with Tony and Ron White was right there. You got Brian Simpson. You got Kurt Metzger. Everybody's just watching and dancing and figuring things out.

02:59:46 Speaker_06
Every now and then, Kurt will corner you with them conspiracies, bro. Did he ever get you? Did he get you? Yeah, bro. He drowned me. He took me in a rabbit. Oh, well.

02:59:57 Speaker_06
He was a listener, dude Underwater river he helped me under bro Fucking I don't I go Kurt. I don't remember the original Conspiracy theory that led us to this mind-control study that I should have known about yeah

03:00:18 Speaker_06
Giant dudes, he's like looming over you like conspiracies in his fucking crazy eyebrows He's like you don't know about the Vanna white conspiracy.

03:00:26 Speaker_05
You don't know what's behind the E's You don't know what's behind the E's Here's the thing dude until he's Jimmy Dore.

03:00:33 Speaker_06
He's one of a kind Jimmy Dore.

03:00:34 Speaker_09
It's cool, huh? I never got to know I got to see him for years, but I've always been like kind of admirable about him.

03:00:39 Speaker_06
He's a great dude He's a great, dude Um, but, uh, before he started working for Jimmy, he didn't really have a lot of conspiracies in his head. You know, it was like, he got sort of exposed to all that working for Jimmy and doing that show.

03:00:52 Speaker_06
And he was like, Oh my God, this whole fucking thing is rigged. And then he just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole, after rabbit hole, after rabbit hole, that dude will send you a text.

03:01:01 Speaker_06
And if you send him a text back, he will send you a chain of thoughts doctrine. Yeah, like a scroll. I want to save them. I want to save them. Because like, that would be a cool almost like a book to publish.

03:01:16 Speaker_09
Text with Kurt. People would love that too. I love how passionate he is about stuff.

03:01:23 Speaker_06
He's a smart dude, man. Yeah, he's a very, very, very smart dude.

03:01:26 Speaker_09
It was fun. Yeah, that was just fun to see. Who else was there?

03:01:29 Speaker_06
Brian Simpson, Ahsan Ahmad.

03:01:32 Speaker_09
Ahsan was there.

03:01:33 Speaker_06
Derek was there.

03:01:34 Speaker_09
Derek was the best dude, because you tell any joke, if it's good or not, you can look at Derek, and if he's laughing, it's good. He's just like a great green room hang. Yes. There's no He he'll let you know on his face of media. He's the to me.

03:01:46 Speaker_09
He's the be-all end-all of something's funny.

03:01:48 Speaker_06
It's a great person It's like just a nice guy to be around. That's it. That's like the beautiful so funny. He is very funny This is a beautiful thing about the club is that there's so many nice people. Yeah, I

03:01:57 Speaker_06
It just, like I said, it charges up your love batteries. It's what we all need in this world. We all need a little more love, a little more fun. And I'm just hoping that Trump doesn't start attacking people. That's what I'm hoping.

03:02:08 Speaker_06
I'm hoping that he just, and I know people around him want him to do that, just concentrate on the positives.

03:02:14 Speaker_10
Yeah.

03:02:14 Speaker_06
Concentrate on the positives. You got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people, and then you will be remembered as that guy.

03:02:22 Speaker_09
Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on. If they can't really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything, I wish somebody would just tell us that.

03:02:29 Speaker_06
Well, I think if anybody's going to, it's him, especially now and especially with access to podcasts. Right.

03:02:35 Speaker_06
So if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office and you have questions like that, all of a sudden Trump could probably tell you whatever. It's not top secret. He could probably tell you. He said he's going to release the JFK files.

03:02:46 Speaker_06
We're going to find out a lot of things. We're going to find out whether or not he's going to really keep RFK Jr. as a part of his organization or whether he's going to get pressure from pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever.

03:02:58 Speaker_09
If he loses him, dude, that's not cool.

03:03:00 Speaker_06
It's not cool. So there's that, and then there's, is he going to release the JFK files? Because he was told that he shouldn't release them. He said some of the people were still alive, which doesn't totally make sense, because that was 1963.

03:03:16 Speaker_06
So most likely, most of those people would be dead of old age. But what does it mean, though, when someone says that? That means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the president.

03:03:32 Speaker_06
So if that's true, then would it be that they're worried that it would erode?

03:03:39 Speaker_06
confidence in the intelligence agencies or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place and then people start saying well what happened with Martin Luther King you know because there was one that Mike Baker who's a former CIA guy was saying that one like he investigated for a show he goes that one doesn't make any sense that guy just started getting money he was a loser his whole life all sudden he had money in okay where no though the guy killed them oh um who was it James Earl Reeves James Earl Ray maybe

03:04:08 Speaker_06
James Earl Ray, James Earl Ray. So that guy, Mike Baker broke it down for us.

03:04:13 Speaker_06
I don't remember exactly, but essentially what he's saying is that that guy was a drifter, he was a loser, in and out of jail, that kind of a guy, and then all of a sudden he has access to money, he's staying in a nice place, and he has a gun.

03:04:24 Speaker_09
Like, what's going on?

03:04:26 Speaker_06
He thinks that they set him up to kill Martin Luther King and that someone financed that, which is most likely. That makes sense.

03:04:33 Speaker_09
Well back, then you could kind of kill somebody and it was um Easier you know think about like the wild west right like they drew if you killed somebody they drew a picture of you, right?

03:04:45 Speaker_06
Wanted I have to shave your mustache I'm looking for a guy with a mustache you could put cardio You can't put on glasses Where'd he go? He killed my whole family. Where is he? Oh, that guy's got glasses. I can't be him.

03:05:05 Speaker_09
Bro, you could literally go across the fucking, behind a boulder, shave, come back to the town, get a job as a sheriff, and look for yourself for 20 years.

03:05:19 Speaker_06
Imagine how gross it must have been to come to some like fucking weird a brothel back then weird brothel town with a saloon And you just smell like shit You've been riding on the back of a horse for three days, and you just wander into this weird fire lit community.

03:05:36 Speaker_03
Oh Did you know James Earl Ray escaped prison before he supposedly killed? I don't know how it worked out, but. Oh really? Yeah, you were saying, get a disguise. He got like a nose job. Oh boy. But he also got a driver's license, made it to Mexico.

03:05:52 Speaker_09
Oh, he's in prison. He's working at Kroger's. Wow.

03:05:54 Speaker_06
He attempted to establish himself as a pornographic film director using mail-order equipment. Who hasn't?

03:06:02 Speaker_09
After a quarter of an eight ball, who hasn't?

03:06:04 Speaker_06
You sound like a fucking psychopath. I got jilted. Yeah, he sounds like a bad guy. He considered emigrating to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where a predominantly white minority regime had unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965.

03:06:20 Speaker_06
Wow.

03:06:25 Speaker_03
Nose job. Yeah, and then went to Atlanta and then very quickly Started to pop it off. Yeah decided to do what he did.

03:06:34 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's tough man The height down there is just fucking ruins.

03:06:37 Speaker_06
Everybody's dry people nuts. Yeah, especially we got that cat parasite You know, then they're all moving around your head like I

03:06:50 Speaker_09
Have you seen that show From on Amazon Prime? I haven't. Pretty good. You know what I've been watching on Netflix? What is it?

03:06:58 Speaker_06
Three Body Problem. Have you seen that?

03:07:00 Speaker_09
I haven't seen it. I've been hearing people say it.

03:07:02 Speaker_06
It's really good. It's by the people who made Game of Thrones.

03:07:05 Speaker_09
Oh, really?

03:07:06 Speaker_06
It's really good. It's totally unique. I don't want to tell you much about it. You don't say anything. It's a science fiction, but it's totally unique. You watch it and you're gonna go, oh shit. At first you're like, what is going on here?

03:07:20 Speaker_06
But after a while you're like, oh shit, I'm on episode four now. Fuck, dude. And there's not gonna be a season two for like three years. Yeah, that's how they do some of that shit.

03:07:29 Speaker_06
Well, like Stranger Things, those motherfuckers are making a movie every week, you know? Right. They're making a one hour movie every week, which is like so much better than a movie.

03:07:41 Speaker_06
You know, Game of Thrones is better than any movie that's ever existed. It's so good. And it's just one episode leads into the next one and to the next one. Oh shit, I can't believe she did that. Oh fuck, he's dead now. Oh shit. Off with his head.

03:07:58 Speaker_06
Fucking, they killed the king in the very first episode. Unreal.

03:08:00 Speaker_09
Spoiler alert. And they handicapped that kid out the gate, remember?

03:08:03 Speaker_06
Yes, right out the gate.

03:08:05 Speaker_09
Fuck. Usually it's second season before you get a handicapped kid. That's what blew my mind.

03:08:09 Speaker_06
That dude was fucking his sister and you didn't want anybody to know. That's crazy.

03:08:14 Speaker_09
But back then there weren't any rules were there?

03:08:16 Speaker_06
I think you're never supposed to be fucking your sister. I think that that's like back to caveman times.

03:08:25 Speaker_09
I'm sure there's something in most people that feels like hey, that's not right. Let's shut it down.

03:08:29 Speaker_09
Let's go outside instead Well, that's like people always thought about that with rural communities, you know, well people say this a lot I mean, I'm from obviously Louisiana people say oh, you know, they're always like And the thing what happened was people didn't live close to each other so if you you're not gonna travel and

03:08:50 Speaker_09
You're only going to travel so far to... Are you advocating for fucking sisters? Fuck no, I'm not. What are you saying? It seems like that's what you're doing. No, I'm saying this is what happened back then.

03:09:00 Speaker_09
People aren't going to get a train ticket to come. People are only going to have sex within a certain distance of their... Right.

03:09:07 Speaker_04
Good call. Right.

03:09:08 Speaker_09
That's why it happened.

03:09:10 Speaker_04
Right.

03:09:10 Speaker_09
You know, it's like if a guy it's like no one there, right? There's nobody there. So they had to fuck their sister They didn't have to but at a certain point they got lost and ended up back at right by the house I'm not saying it's cool.

03:09:28 Speaker_06
I'm just trying to tell you how it works out like, you know, well, that's how it works out in the mammal kingdom. I Yeah, if you have puppies the boy puppy will fuck his sister. Yeah hundred percent.

03:09:38 Speaker_06
He doesn't even think twice He'll try to fuck you to try to fuck your leg. They don't even know what they're doing.

03:09:42 Speaker_09
Oh, yeah, dude I'll say to my buddy Brad's house one night, right? We're dead asleep, right and they let a bunch of puppies loose do those things that fucking gang banging you I don't have a chance, dude.

03:09:55 Speaker_09
I don't have a fucking ounce of milk on me and those things are fucking sucking me off, bro.

03:09:58 Speaker_04
Isn't it funny? We don't think that about people.

03:10:02 Speaker_09
Right. It's crazy how it goes from animals to people, man.

03:10:05 Speaker_06
Yeah, we're animals.

03:10:07 Speaker_09
We're animals. Do you think there's a certain purpose for us, like there's a magical purpose for us, or do you think we are just an anomaly?

03:10:13 Speaker_06
Well, I think even if there's not, this is a magical time.

03:10:18 Speaker_06
It's an interesting time and especially for people like us they get to talk to so many fascinating people I mean we have a really cool job not just as comics, but also as doing podcasts You know and you've I think you've got a great education doing that you know a great like you're you seem more introspective you're more curious about things than you know I remember before you like I

03:10:41 Speaker_06
Think it did the same thing to me really yeah, yeah, yeah, I must feel like I know why I wish I didn't know more stuff Sometimes I miss knowing nothing right yeah, they make any sense to you for sure I know I have my brain is filled with shit that I don't need oh, yeah, you're a library, dude

03:10:56 Speaker_09
You know? I'm more like a Redbox where you rent that one movie.

03:11:01 Speaker_06
I haven't been doing it as long. I've been doing it a lot longer. That's all it is. It's the amount I do, too. It's numbers.

03:11:08 Speaker_09
But you are a library. You know, there's certain types of people that can make it through certain things.

03:11:15 Speaker_06
You wouldn't want to educate a child on this library. This is not a library you'd allow everybody to have access to.

03:11:21 Speaker_09
No, it's 16 and older, I think.

03:11:22 Speaker_06
There's a lot of stuff in my head I was like, God, I wish I didn't know that about people. You know?

03:11:28 Speaker_09
Oh, that's interesting. You don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have, like, a memory that records so much.

03:11:34 Speaker_06
Well, it's just, you always concentrate on the worst possible aspects of people.

03:11:39 Speaker_06
And so if you know so many acts and things that people have done that have been horrific, you're always, like, the back of your head always has, but maybe that could happen. You know? Like, so it always sits there. It always sits there.

03:11:53 Speaker_06
If you're a completely You grow up Amish or some shit. You're like completely removed from society. You never see any violence. You never see anything. And then all of a sudden you have to go to a bar, like downtown Detroit on a Saturday night.

03:12:04 Speaker_06
You see fistfights and people throwing glasses at each other. You'd be like, what the fuck is this? I'm not ready for this. I'm not prepared for this. You know?

03:12:14 Speaker_09
Right, but if you know that exists and it's always a possibility.

03:12:17 Speaker_06
So if you see it too much, even if you don't see it in real life, the worst thing is seeing it in real life. That's what we were talking earlier about cops. Cops are seeing it every day in real life.

03:12:27 Speaker_06
So you just get like super accustomed to seeing people dead, super accustomed to seeing people get injured.

03:12:36 Speaker_09
Yeah, it's crazy how therapists make like $150 an hour, right? Right. But cops, who are basically therapists that also have to shoot at people, make $40 an hour. I know. That's crazy, dude, when you think about that. It's crazy.

03:12:53 Speaker_06
And nobody wants that job.

03:12:55 Speaker_09
It is crazy, but if you paid him like heroes I feel like that they would more more fucking gladiators would show up and do it Yeah, and they would have a real force out there You know and you would fall asleep at night knowing that severe warriors were taking care of your fucking community Yes, you think that's possible not people don't want to know that we need that they don't want to kind of believe that you need like masculine dangerous men to protect you

03:13:19 Speaker_06
But that's always been the case. And if you're just looking realistically about violence and crime in the world, it exists. There's no utopian spot. So violence and crime exist.

03:13:31 Speaker_06
There's only one way you can shield the nonviolent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals, and that's dangerous men. You need dangerous armed men who are trained and are capable. That's what you need.

03:13:42 Speaker_06
It doesn't mean they should be running everything. It means you need 100% protection from dangerous people. Then here's the number one thing that nobody addresses.

03:13:52 Speaker_06
You got to figure out why are so many people coming out of these same communities year after year after year after year being dangerous where no one's doing shit about it. No one's trying to fix it. No one's trying to enhance it. No one's trying to like

03:14:06 Speaker_06
Recognize like do you know much? Income we're losing because these people don't grow up to become productive members of society.

03:14:12 Speaker_06
You know much damage It's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes and if whatever drug dealing any anything that can come out of that

03:14:21 Speaker_06
and do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system and how much of that could be completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society and instead starts contributing to society and it's a success story?

03:14:37 Speaker_06
That's not impossible to do, but there's been no effort, no engineering large-scale national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country.

03:14:48 Speaker_06
And not make everything the same and perfect, that's not possible, but there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's unmanageable. You should never be that poor if you're a part of a community.

03:15:01 Speaker_06
If you're a part of a community that takes care of everybody, there's no reason why you have $175 billion to ship to Ukraine, but you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level of poverty in this country.

03:15:14 Speaker_09
when that kind of shit happens. They shouldn't be helping these other countries. I don't know why we send money to Israel, Ukraine, I just don't understand why we... There's just people suffering here, you know?

03:15:22 Speaker_09
There's people that have been taken advantage of in our own country, and it's like, you don't want to be selfish, but if you don't take care, if you don't know your inventory, then your business is going to fail, right? That's a, that is...

03:15:34 Speaker_09
That is a law if you don't take stock of your own inventory your business will fail And we don't have stock of our own inventory, and we don't have a healthy inventory You know it's like it's just like I don't understand how it's so I don't The weird thing is I start thinking is that a radical idea

03:15:50 Speaker_06
It didn't used to be a radical idea, but it became a radical idea when people started floating about the idea that capitalism is evil, all capitalism is bad. There's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society.

03:16:04 Speaker_09
Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point.

03:16:06 Speaker_06
I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI. I think we're going to get to some weird point where money seems like it's just ones and zeros. It's just numbers and it's a bottleneck.

03:16:21 Speaker_06
The bottleneck of information, right? Because you can't have access to all the information if you have access to all the money. Then where's the money go? That's crazy.

03:16:28 Speaker_06
But if we get to this point where we evolve past the state we're at now where you can't trust people to not steal your money, where you can't trust people to not lie, where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit.

03:16:41 Speaker_06
If human beings can eventually get to a place like that, then I could see a time in our evolved future where we don't need money.

03:16:49 Speaker_06
or when everybody has the same amount, where instead of having this desire to constantly acquire goods and constantly acquire status and prestige in the community, have the bigger house, the bigger car, if that completely goes away and human beings really are one hive mind, I could see where we could equally share resources.

03:17:15 Speaker_06
But that's like, either a cyborg or a million years in the future. I'm talking about like where we get past all of our primitive cave people instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything is the cause of almost all of our problems.

03:17:31 Speaker_09
Who we are innately.

03:17:33 Speaker_06
It's just our programming is fucked. Yeah, there's our programming is the same Well, you know this there's there's some variations that have cured over time but reasonably similar I should say to people that live 10,000 years ago, huh?

03:17:46 Speaker_06
so if you took a person from 10,000 years ago and you put him in a t-shirt like this and sat him in the movie theater You wouldn't be able to tell it would just look like us. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah, and

03:17:58 Speaker_06
So really you think 100% yeah, I mean they might have been smaller that because they didn't give us as much food But it look like a small person.

03:18:06 Speaker_06
Yeah, we wouldn't know you wouldn't know they would look just like us So if you just put him in a suit and tie and sat him down that guy would be like what the fuck? Yeah, and that's basically us

03:18:18 Speaker_06
So that person, if you get a person lives 10,000 years ago, the amount of barbaric incidents that guy's probably seen by the time he becomes an adult, the amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seeing people lit on fire.

03:18:33 Speaker_06
That's all inside of us still. All that programming of everybody's the enemy, and you gotta protect the fields, and protect the, that is all a part of our programming.

03:18:44 Speaker_06
And as technology increases, and as we become more interconnected, that's gonna be one of the biggest problems that we face, is abandoning these bizarre primate characteristics that we still hold onto.

03:18:59 Speaker_06
Because they're in our DNA and but they're not managed. Well, like people need to manage them to suppress them and some people Yeah, we try to print that don't exist.

03:19:08 Speaker_09
Yeah, we try to pretend I don't exist.

03:19:10 Speaker_06
Sorry I stepped on you No, I've been interrupting you a lot, man. I'm sorry. You're awesome, man. What are you doing? Stop doing that? Piece of it. I can listen. Let's wrap it up. We've been doing this for three. Oh, have we really at least? I love you

03:19:23 Speaker_06
I know I'm always trying to get you to move here, but it's because I think you'd be happier here. And selfishly, I want you around. No.

03:19:28 Speaker_09
Well, thank you, dude. I appreciate it.

03:19:29 Speaker_06
No, I want to be around.

03:19:31 Speaker_09
This year's just been, it's just been, it's been like every time I'm not doing a podcast, I have to like, I'm traveling for work or it's like, it's just been a busy time.

03:19:40 Speaker_06
Hey, if we open up another mothership, do you think Nashville would be a good spot? Is there enough, would we be fucking with Zanies or do you think we would help it?

03:19:48 Speaker_09
No, I think it would be good because I think there's enough people there where you could do it well.

03:19:51 Speaker_06
Do you have enough comics in Nashville? How many comics are in Nashville? There's some. You gotta have like a base, you know, like that wanna perform all the time.

03:20:00 Speaker_09
Right. I'll do some recon for you.

03:20:03 Speaker_06
We're thinking. We're thinking of going to other spots.

03:20:05 Speaker_09
Yeah?

03:20:05 Speaker_06
Yeah.

03:20:07 Speaker_09
Well, that would be cool, man, because at least I know the area I could be, you know.

03:20:09 Speaker_06
What about going to the most woke place in Brooklyn, setting up shop?

03:20:16 Speaker_09
The mother, if you get... I bet it would thrive though.

03:20:22 Speaker_06
Well, we can find out.

03:20:23 Speaker_09
There's only one way to do it, dude.

03:20:26 Speaker_06
Wow, man, I can't believe it's so crazy that I was there to watch the list like the elect just like what a night and was like It was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room We're all hopping back and forth offstage like who's winning.

03:20:39 Speaker_06
I know it was fun, man It was so crazy dude drink a diet cokes. I'm having a good time deal Vaughn I love you to death you one of my favorite people I appreciate you very much and

03:20:50 Speaker_09
I love you too, man. Thanks for being inspiring and thanks for, yeah, sometimes you would like, I would do a podcast episode and you would just say, you would reach out and say, hey, man, I liked that episode and it just meant a lot.

03:21:00 Speaker_09
I just want to let you know that.

03:21:01 Speaker_06
Well, it does. You do a great job, man. I really love your show. I think you got some great interviews and you got a great, you got a nice way of being yourself, you know, when you're talking to anybody. And that's what I think people really like.

03:21:13 Speaker_06
They like to see conversations where people are just being themselves. And the fact that you could do that with Trump, That's fun. It's inspiring, so it's nice to see, man. I really, really love it.

03:21:22 Speaker_09
Well, thanks. Thanks, man. I think it means a lot to people when somebody they admire says something nice to them. It's just nature. It is, yeah.

03:21:32 Speaker_06
We like it.

03:21:33 Speaker_09
I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me, dude.

03:21:34 Speaker_06
My pleasure. Bye, everybody.