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Episode: #2224 - Tim Dillon

Author: Joe Rogan
Duration: 03:14:46

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Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: This is Your Country," is available on Netflix.

 

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In this episode of 'The Joe Rogan Experience,' Tim Dillon provides a poignant critique of societal and political issues, reflecting on the intersection of comedy and serious discussions. Notably, he discusses American identity post-9/11, critiques the elitism in political discourse, and highlights the disconnect between public opinion and political actions regarding issues like immigration and gender identity. Dillon uses humor to illustrate the absurdities of contemporary culture, while emphasizing the need for genuine dialogue in addressing these complex topics.

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The Joe Rogan experience.

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Join my day Joe Rogan podcast by night or day.

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It's the end of the world as we know it. How you feeling?

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I'm feeling good. Thank you for having me. I heard you were having a problem getting big guests. And things were not going good. And I said, hey, I'll fly in and I'll help.

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I'm always here to help. Well, we were talking about doing a live show at the mothership, but then somebody told a Puerto Rican joke. We're like, maybe that's not a good idea.

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Yeah, I mean. It was, you know, it might have been, we don't know. It could have been interesting.

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Could have been fun, but whatever. What are you gonna do?

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Yeah. It's election. It's election day.

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If Trump loses, he's on suicide watch.

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If Trump loses, we're going to have to hide him. We're gonna have to pay a cartel to shelter him for a period of months or years. They'll take him in Canada. He could just move up to Canada.

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Yeah. Sort of change his rhetoric a little bit.

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Yeah. No, if Trump loses, he definitely will have to... Kind of tone it down. You know, he might have to... Move it around a little bit. Survey the scene, you know?

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Probably not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Canada.

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He could be a hero on the other side, though.

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That's true. He could just emerge as the, you know, left wing. Just, just completely do like a 180. I've seen the light. Flip the script. Inclusivity is super important. Say I did this. Yeah. Kamala, it was me. I knew that was going to happen. Right.

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That's why I told those jokes.

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Yeah. Well, the funniest thing is that people going that he's a Hollywood plant. Like those people that are like, he was a Hollywood plant, you know?

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Yeah, those people are fucking hilarious. Every now and then I'll come across a comment of people who think there's some fucking grand conspiracy, like we're all being puppet mastered by them. Manipulated. It's always Jews.

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They think the Jews are... It always gets to the Jews. It'll start somewhere and then goes to the Jews. I forget who told me this, but it's like one of the symptoms of a collapsing civilization, they start blaming things on Jews. Yeah.

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It's like one of them is they get very obsessed with gender and then the other one is they start blaming Jews. We're in both of those right now.

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The other thing is they make celebrities out of chefs. Like they get very decadent. This happened in Rome. Really? Yeah. People that provide you these comforts become celebrities because you're just living a decadent life.

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Lifestyle and I never considered that that's so that's one of the things that People say is like a harbinger of the apocalypse is like celebrity chefs people just focusing way too much on Like, you know artisanal, you know donuts or whatever.

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My wife likes going to those places Yeah, they serve you like 13 different things. Yeah, one is the size of a quarter. Yeah, I need a steak. I It's very yeah, bring it all at once. I'm a glutton.

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Yeah, I need my food in a large plate Yeah, I need a just a giant. Yeah and hunk of meat.

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Well, it's also so much time. It's like three hours I can't do it and the waiters tell you about every single thing and it feels very like indulgent to sit somewhere for three hours and and then get educated about where a raspberry came from.

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Right. You know? I can take it with the omakase sushi, like Philip Franklin Lee's place.

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Sure.

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That's kind of fun. You watch him do it. You watch him slice it up and put it together. It's kind of cool. It's fun. Just know what you're in for when you get there. You have conversations. There's a small amount of people, so you can get to know folks.

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And a sushi bar is good because you don't have to talk that much.

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Right when you're directly across somebody for three hours That's intense. And the worst is like someone could be in the middle of some fucking horrible story Then my mother came back and it was stage four.

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Oh, this is a peanut right from Australia And the glaze is a demi glaze with a South France bourbon. Yeah Thank you Thank you so much. Hey, you fuckhead. Yeah. Her mom died. Yeah. You piece of shit.

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I hate people that ruin meals with real discussions about anything. That's depressing. That is a problem. Anybody who comes out, and if there's money being spent, keep it to yourself. Talk about things that we can all get on board. Nobody cares.

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You know, oh, my dad's gonna beat it. He's a fighter. Hey, not now.

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Yeah. Yeah. I'm the emotion dump that just like, what am I supposed to do with all this? Yeah, I have all your emotions.

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People talk too much about personal things, and then they expect you to offer them some degree of comfort.

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Right, what can you do?

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You can't do anything.

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There's nothing you can do.

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I'm sorry your sister has borderline personality disorder. What is that exactly? Is that real? No, and it's people that just go around ruining all the relationships in their life. So it just means you're a piece of shit, which is fine.

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So they just say they're borderline.

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Right, because there's a lot of mental things like that that are just sort of patterns that people fall into. Yeah. You can't medicate a pattern. But can you medicate rudeness? Some people are just rude. They're just not nice. They're not nice to waiters.

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They'll invent a way. The pharmaceutical industry is such a profitable thing, everything eventually will be a disease.

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Yeah. I'm more and more convinced that ADHD is not real. I think a lot of kids just have a lot of fucking energy and they're supposed to be doing other stuff. They're not supposed to be sitting at a desk all day.

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Put them in the military. You know what I mean?

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Or let them play video games professionally. They seem to sit real fucking still when they're doing that. How come they're fully engaged when they play video games?

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There are people you meet, I have grown friends in my life that are, you know, I'm 39 and they're in their late 30s and I'm like, the best version of you is dying in the Ukraine.

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You should be a flag on a mantle and we should point to you and go this he made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom And that's the best version of them and we don't have enough wars.

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We don't have enough dead people So well, if we have the wins, we're gonna change that we are if we had more wars one thing that people would appreciate is the whole concept of America like if we got attacked like after 9-11 and

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Yeah after 9-11, I don't know where you were, but I was in LA and the fucking well, you're a lot younger than me Yeah, but the flags on people's cars were everywhere in Los Angeles, right, which is crazy It's like everyone was super patriotic and I was in New York and it felt it felt you know People get mad when you say this it was the best time ever to live in America.

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Yeah, and it was the warmest you felt, I never felt better about the country.

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United, yeah.

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We felt united, we were compassionate, we truly loved each other. I think that's how people in Israel feel every day. Really? Yep. Isn't it so, they go through it so much that they're desensitized to it at this point?

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I had a kickboxing coach, my friend Shuki, and he was from Israel, and he was always telling me, like I went over to his house for dinner once, and him and his wife, they're playing the bongos and dancing and shit, having a great time.

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They were happy people. But it was like you have an appreciation for life if you live in a war zone.

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And I think in America where we are so removed from that, that it doesn't seem real to us.

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Right but you and I have an appreciation for life. We're not in a fucking war zone. No.

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So it's not the only way to have an appreciation for life. Absolutely. I think you can have an appreciation for life in a myriad of ways. But I think one of the downsides of being so relatively safe is that you when we talk about war it's not real.

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Right. So you've been there unless you've been there. I have no idea.

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I have friends that have been there They you know, and I think we talk about conflicts all over the world without the intimate knowledge of how hellish they are right and how how much pain is associated with someone going and fighting and dying and then killing people or killing people and being scarred and yeah, and

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So one of the things that I think people are waking up to now is that it's, you know, we can't be everywhere in every war. fighting everybody and then just not recognizing that that has consequences.

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You say that, but if Kamala Harris wins and Liz Cheney takes over the CIA, we might have a chance at putting it all together.

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What time is it right now? 2.52. They just called it for Kamala. And I'm excited about it because many of us will be in jail.

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If you don't get excited right now, many of us will go right to jail. It's like when Dear Leader died and you had to cry for six months. If you didn't cry, they put you in jail. I don't think we should get nuts with the counting.

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If it feels good, If it feels good, let's just do it. To me, the numbers and the columns and the tabulation kind of is a waste of time.

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I think we just go with whatever Joy Reid thinks. Whatever they want. I mean, did you see Rachel Maddow calling for Elon Musk's contracts to be taken away? I didn't, but that's... That kind of makes sense, I guess, if you're Rachel Maddow, right?

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But it's the most bananas thing ever. You have literally one of the greatest geniuses in human history, a guy who's simultaneously landing rockets, not just shooting them, landing them, having them getting caught by robots in the sky.

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Then you have Tesla, then you have Starlink, then you have the Boring Company. The guy's simultaneously running all these different fucking things. But I bet Rachel Maddow's pretty bright.

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But I only care about their political opponents, I think. I think that's where we're at now, where it's like somebody might have a great talent, but if they disagree with you, you have to

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I said it to you Jamie you got to see her say it because it's so unhinged She's like she used to be reasonable at one point. I'm she was reasonable You know Matt Taibbi wrote a book called hate Inc.

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And if you're yeah, it's great book, but he basically makes the argument that Rachel Maddow is essentially Bill O'Reilly. Yeah, they're the same person.

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They are she was good friends with Roger Ailes. They had dinner all the time. Uh-huh. I

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Give me some volume and go full screen.

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And for all the multi-billion dollar contracts Elon Musk's companies have with the U.S. government, the U.S.

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government is going to have to either, I mean, unwind from all of those contracts, or Elon Musk's companies are going to have to unwind from him. This is an untenable reality in national security terms. Now that we know what we know about Elon Musk.

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What is that?

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What do we know?

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That he endorsed President Trump. That he's a fucking genius? They're very good at making enemies and then when the enemies they've made treat them poorly, they are shocked. This is what they do.

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They kind of bully people and they intimidate people and they threaten people.

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And then when those people then, you know, you know, go back at them or try to assert themselves in any way, they're like stunned that that person has autonomy and is acting in their own interest. You know, this is happening over and over again.

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But this idea is crazy because it's literally one of the most unique talents. Yeah, in terms of engineering.

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Yeah terms, but she doesn't understand that so that she's saying she doesn't know that right but how she thinks there's 20 people doing it that's what's crazy, but how Space X has done things that have never happened before sure these these Falcon rockets landing the the catching the rockets with it like all the plans they have for all these different things that trips to Mars

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No one's doing that. And this idea that you have a different political philosophy or ideology, or you support a different candidate, and the solution is get rid of the guy who's the most genius inventor, perhaps, of all time.

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I remember Klaus just reading and said it has to do with his supposed conversations with Putin. He had a conversation? Oh, no. As of 2022. So did Tucker Carlson. Take him off Twitter. Yeah.

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And here's the other thing. From what I understand, and I've read a little bit about this, Elon refused to provide Starlink to the Ukraine because they were going to use it to attack Russia and there was going to be a dramatic escalation in the war.

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And I think he was trying to avoid that. I think he was trying to avoid a dramatic escalation in that war. So the people that want a dramatic escalation in that war, the people that think that's a good idea, he's an enemy.

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Yeah fucking Christ it's That's that's something I think people should be voting on imagine if you put it up to vote for people like hey Do you guys think we should fund?

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Ukraine to the tune of 190 billion and maybe have someone else come along and say this is an alternative what we could do with that money, right?

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You know, there's no vote on that. There's no vote on a lot of the things that we're told to live with There's never been a vote on immigration. There's votes for candidates to support it or don't support it.

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But there's never been a vote on should, you know, should we secure the southern border would unanimously be voted on. And people would unanimously pretty much say absolutely.

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Well, how about the voter ID laws? Yeah. Eighty four percent of America think we should have voter ID. Right. I showed my ID today. Jamie, what's the total so far? What's the latest results?

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We won't know for a few hours.

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So here's what I will say.

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Can't we just be lied to? Early voting in Pennsylvania is down. You could check this out. Early voting in Pennsylvania is down for Democrats. 2020 you had 1.6 million registered Democrats vote early, now you had 821,000.

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Whereas Republicans, early voters, I think 2020 was like 547,000, 521,000 this time, meaning that the Republican early vote in PA, which is the most important state and Michigan and Georgia,

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is around the same as it has been, the Democratic early vote is somewhat depressed. It is not as strong as it's been. Now, I don't know if that's a pattern. I don't know if that's indicative.

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Listen, how many people have that kind of quiet quit the Democratic Party? There's tons of people. There's a lot of hidden votes. So there's people that are sick of Trump that are going to vote for her.

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There's people that are sick of the Democratic Party that are going to vote for him. And then there's probably people that are motivated by Roe, Roe v. Wade. Women potentially might vote. I think that's the Republicans biggest fuck up.

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It's a huge fuck up. Suburban women are certainly a big demographic that swings elections and... How about urban women?

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How about all women? Women don't want men telling them what the fuck to do with their bodies. That's right. Especially when men can't get pregnant. It's too fucking convenient. Well, wait a minute, psychopath. Hold on.

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Wait a minute. I walked into that. Do you know that they found out that that boxer... Abortion affects men as much as it does women. Of course.

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Right. Sure. You know they found out that that boxer that won a gold medal in the Olympics is actually a man? No. That's not shocking. The one that everyone was complaining was a biological male. You piece of shit. They have a medical condition. No.

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Has a micropenis. Internal testicles. Went through male puberty. Biological male. XY chromosome. Whole deal. Won a gold medal in the women's Olympics in boxing.

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It's so crazy to me.

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And I think the biggest problem is the donor class, because the donor class of the Democratic Party and Republican Party, you either have people that are business owners that are donating because of business interests or you have radicals that are donating because they are

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a radical activist that wants something that the American public thinks is crazy. And biological men competing in women's sports is something most people think is crazy.

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And 13-year-olds getting puberty-blocking hormones, 11-year-olds, you know, all that stuff. Most people think it's crazy, but they have to just kowtow to this donor base that is maniacal and insane.

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It's all about money, right?

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It's all about money and it's the money guys are at least like at least the billionaires will go I want to build a casino or I want to do this.

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I want to do that I want to pollute a lake this isn't good, but you know where they're coming from when you're these radical activists there they're kind of Motivated by this ideology that nobody it's a very small group of people like if you went to most people and said I

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Do you think an 11 year old should have a gender reassignment surgery or should take hormones to block their puberty? The vast majority of people would say no. No, they shouldn't, that's a crazy idea.

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But the thing is, most people will say something different than they actually feel privately because they don't want to be attacked. Right.

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That's a weird one, because the people that will attack you are almost always the people that are pro that shit happening. Right. And those are the nuttiest, fucking craziest people.

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Those are the people that will misrepresent you and, right. I have a friend who's, you know, they have very young children, they live in Long Island.

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And they, you know, there's like a, now there's a book being read about gender identity to like five and six year olds. Crazy.

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And they're, and I'm texting with them and they're going, we're very like liberal people, but we're really confused as to why this is happening. Well, they want activists to get into schools. That's right.

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That's what it is. A lot of these teachers are just activists and a lot of them don't have fucking kids and a lot of them are gay Yeah, or queer or trans or this or that or they're they're a part of women too.

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Here's the other thing a lot of them are women not to blame women, but it's like Most of this stuff isn't being pushed. I I would it's not Like, it's being pushed, because a lot of people go, oh, they're groomers or pedophiles.

00:21:30 Speaker_07
Some of them might be, but a lot of them are just these do-gooder types that want to have medals pinned on them and ribbons pinned on them as to how great they are as people. So it's not all these female teachers.

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They're not all trying to have sex with your kids. They're just trying to get accolades from their peers, and they want to talk about what a great person they are. So they're just, like, falling for anything.

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And they're out there distributing, you know, whatever it is, books or, you know, telling kids because they want to be a good person. They want to feel like they're a good person. They want to be on the right side.

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They want to be on the right side of things. That's a good point. And they're just not, you know, I don't think they are

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Nobody's pushing back in a way Like if there's a lot of elitism and condescension that comes from the Democratic Party the Democratic Party used to be a party of unions of workers of workers rights and and and it was a party that my people like my grandmother and was in for years because she believed that people Should be able to have health care They should be able to have sick leave or they should be able to maternity care, whatever it is but then it became a party dominated by kind of

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corporate elites, very wealthy donors, Wall Street people, finance people, and also very radical fringe elements that are advocating policies that most Americans don't agree with. And then you cobble together that coalition of interest groups.

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And the only way that works is if you condescend to because you can't have these debates because they lose them. They lose the debates. You can't have them.

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So the way to shut down a debate is to tell people, if you don't agree with me, you're racist, you're homophobic, transphobic, you're an idiot, you're stupid, you're not worthy of having this discussion because they don't want to have the discussion.

00:23:16 Speaker_07
Because if they wanted to have a debate about healthcare, that's a debate. People understand that. If they wanted to have a debate about early childhood education, people understand that.

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But the things they're choosing to focus on, like having a wide open southern border, for example, Benefits nobody right truly unless you are a billionaire multi-millionaire who wants to hire people and pay them less money

00:23:41 Speaker_07
It doesn't really even benefit the people that are coming into the country, because they're working for wages that are far less. And it certainly doesn't benefit Americans, but they don't want to have that argument.

00:23:51 Speaker_05
Well, it benefits the people that are coming into the country, because they're coming from a place where they have fucking zero. So if they work for very little, they're happy, they have 10 people in a house, they're not getting shot at every day.

00:24:01 Speaker_07
But they're also much more likely to be taken advantage of than somebody who's a citizen. So they're not going to unionize, or they're not going to

00:24:09 Speaker_05
you know, be able to assert themselves at all. Right. That's the argument for offering these people amnesty. But the thing is, like, you've got to vet them. You've got to figure out who's a fucking criminal.

00:24:18 Speaker_05
Like, I'm all for letting poor people in that want a better life. But I'm not for illegal workers. Yeah. Meaning, like, I think those people should be paid what Americans are paid. I think there should be a standard on this soil.

00:24:30 Speaker_05
If you live in this fucking country, you should have a working wage. If you're going to work 40 hours a fucking week, you should be able to live on it. You should have health care. You should have all the things that people deserve.

00:24:41 Speaker_05
And I think if you think about the amount of fucking money we spend doing other stuff, we could do that for everybody. That could be done. And it would fix a lot of the fucking problems we have with money in this country in the first place.

00:24:55 Speaker_05
The amount of influence that pharmaceutical drug companies have on us is bizarre. It doesn't exist anywhere else but here.

00:25:02 Speaker_07
I spoke to a woman who is from Chicago and she worked for very wealthy Democrat donors in Chicago when Sanders was

00:25:11 Speaker_07
Winning when you know, he had won that primary right and they were very threatened by Sanders So she was working with all them and they all went to DC and they all you know met candidates at one time They're backing Buddha judge and then they met Biden and they decided even then he was like they go He's not with it.

00:25:29 Speaker_07
This was even then. Oh, yeah, and then there was a decision made that the best candidate to play ball to unite the party and to get rid of Bernie Sanders was Joe Biden.

00:25:43 Speaker_07
So all of the Democratic power brokers, all these big wealthy families decided to line up and destroy Sanders and elevate Biden. And that's when she said she left politics because she said she was so disillusioned

00:25:58 Speaker_07
because she thought her job was to help wealthy people make political decisions that helped people get health care or whatever.

00:26:07 Speaker_07
But then when she realized that the job is actually to get rid of people who want to change the status quo, she became disillusioned, she left politics. But that was her job.

00:26:18 Speaker_07
So when somebody talks like that in the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders was doing it, they get rid of him.

00:26:24 Speaker_05
Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

00:26:28 Speaker_07
You thought he was interesting. You endorsed him. You said he would be a very interesting candidate.

00:26:32 Speaker_05
Well, I liked his idea of making things easier for poor people. That's right. I think giving people a path to get out of abject poverty is a good idea.

00:26:42 Speaker_05
And his idea of taking and funding all these social programs based on a small percentage, like a fraction of a penny of all these speculative gambles that the stock market's doing. Maybe that would work.

00:26:54 Speaker_07
But it was like and then he came off your podcast and they go go. He went on a transphobic pod like the attacks started immediately.

00:27:01 Speaker_05
Oh, yeah. No, CNN was the first. Yeah, they called the podcast racist and homophobic and all kinds of different things. And I got I found out about it because I got a text message from a buddy saying you okay?

00:27:13 Speaker_03
I'm like what?

00:27:14 Speaker_05
Right. And they're like CNN is a wrote a hit piece on right today. I go for what? Right for Bernie Sanders like what?

00:27:21 Speaker_07
So this is that you come out, you endorse a left-wing candidate. By the way, I didn't even endorse him. You said you liked him. I said I'll probably vote for Bernie. He's anti-corporate. He's from outside of the system.

00:27:34 Speaker_07
And then immediately you're attacked. They attack the podcast. So it's like, you know, and then Kamala Harris, God bless. But this woman is running on a platform of joy. Joy is important. Joy is the policy. The policy is joy.

00:27:50 Speaker_07
I want to take what she's taking when you're laughing all the time. That sounds like fun. The platform is joy. And there's people right now that can't feed their kids, that are immiserated for whatever reason.

00:28:04 Speaker_07
They're not doing well, and they don't have health care. And she goes, be joyful, and our joy is our work. It's like crazy. It's like fully insane. And I don't understand who that connects with.

00:28:16 Speaker_05
Well, it's completely manufactured. The whole thing is manufactured by the media and by whoever is running the country. Whoever's running the country, by the way, you're doing a great job considering there's no president. Right.

00:28:29 Speaker_05
We've had no president for months. That's right. Okay. Well, months, maybe years. Sure. But Kamala Harris has been campaigning. She has no time to be president. That's right. Joe Biden is gone.

00:28:40 Speaker_05
Every now and then, somehow or another, they let him wander over to a microphone. And he says wild shit like, I'd like to take these Republicans and smack them in the ass.

00:28:48 Speaker_07
And then he puts a MAGA hat on. He's getting fun. By the way, I voted for him today. I still support him. And because he's fun now. He clearly wants Trump to win. He hates her. And he never liked the Obamas. This is well known.

00:29:03 Speaker_07
Well, Jack Pos- how do you say his name?

00:29:05 Speaker_05
Posobek. Jack Posobiec posted on Twitter that there was a physical altercation between Jill Biden and someone from Kamala's staff. I don't know if it's true, but it's fun. Well, listen, Jill Biden, we know, is a psychopath.

00:29:19 Speaker_07
And we know that because she's encouraged her husband, who should be on a porch, to run for president. It's disgusting. Joe Biden is one of the most, yeah.

00:29:32 Speaker_05
I think sometimes he's not, I think he doesn't do good in the bright lights, but behind closed doors he's sharp as a tack.

00:29:37 Speaker_07
She's a woman who claims to be a doctor. She's not a doctor. You know that. Why? Is she a chiropractor? No, no, no. You know, Joe Biden just has a doctorate. She's not a doctor of anything.

00:29:48 Speaker_05
That's interesting.

00:29:49 Speaker_07
And she makes people call her Dr. Joe Biden. So already she's mentally unwell. Like Bill Cosby had a honorary one. She's not even like a professor. Like if you're a professor, and you have a doctorate, somebody might say Dr. Rogan or whatever.

00:30:00 Speaker_07
But this idea that she's the first lady, not a medical doctor, not a professor, and still making people call her doctor while she's doing the least doctorly thing ever, which is letting an elderly man be paraded around to try to win the presidency again, it's crazy.

00:30:19 Speaker_05
Well, I think she was enjoying the power. Yeah, of course. And I think that ring is very hard

00:30:27 Speaker_07
They don't want to let it go. Well, she's enjoying the power. She's enjoying not going, you know, maybe members of her family not being in jail. That would help.

00:30:37 Speaker_05
She's enjoying that. Do you think he pardons his son? Because his son just got hit with a bunch of tax evasion charges.

00:30:43 Speaker_07
I mean, I don't know. I hope Trump pardons him and invites him into the administration. That's the ultimate win.

00:30:51 Speaker_05
Hunter goes you know I had a chance to have him on the podcast No, Joe, and he didn't up.

00:30:56 Speaker_05
I thought it was early early on when he was writing a book remember when he wrote a book I Remember yeah, they reached out to get press and then the laptop story kind of blew up Oh, yeah, well, then I was like get him on and then they were like no no we don't want a pre laptop

00:31:14 Speaker_05
You want a post-laptop. This was post-laptop, but they thought they had squashed it. So this was before Elon had purchased Twitter. Gotcha.

00:31:22 Speaker_05
Once Elon purchased Twitter, and then they understood that there was a coordinated effort by 51 former intelligence agents to say that the laptop was Russian disinformation. That's right.

00:31:31 Speaker_05
And then the fucking cat's out of the bag, and then everybody knows what's going on.

00:31:35 Speaker_07
Well, this is also the problem of saying that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when you have literally

00:31:43 Speaker_07
like credible documented examples of intelligence officials lying to the public and facing zero consequences and trying to manipulate an election. I mean, that's that's that's a huge problem.

00:31:56 Speaker_05
Well, Google's doing that right now. You know, have you ever seen Robert Epstein's work? Robert Epstein has compiled like all... I'm familiar with a different Epstein's work. Yeah, different one.

00:32:08 Speaker_05
Ephemeral interactions with Google, like Google search engine results and what you're showing on your homepage of Google News and how it influences people and how you can sway undecideds in a significant way. Right.

00:32:25 Speaker_05
Towards one candidate or the other, depending upon the search results. But one thing that people are pointing out on Twitter today, Jamie, let's see if we could replicate it. Why don't you Google, where can I vote for Trump?

00:32:37 Speaker_05
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LifeLock for the threats you can't control. So here it is. Where can I vote for Harris?

00:34:15 Speaker_07
By the way, the first article is Esquire. There's only one reason anyone votes for Trump.

00:34:19 Speaker_05
It's just hilarious. So you don't see this. Google admits Trump-Harris search for discrepancy says fix is coming. I don't know what the fuck that means. But look at the bottom. So you Googled where to vote for Trump. Scroll down a little bit.

00:34:37 Speaker_05
Scroll down a little bit more. Google search, where can I vote for Harris shows a new conspiracy theory is taking root in an election. Click on that variety thing. So this is it.

00:34:53 Speaker_05
Where can I vote for Harris showed a map while similar Trump search didn't. So you Googled where can I vote for Trump. It didn't show the map. Now let's Google where can I vote for Harris. Let's see what happens.

00:35:08 Speaker_07
Vote centers. You just voted for her.

00:35:10 Speaker_05
Vote centers.

00:35:11 Speaker_07
By the way, that's counted as a vote. That's counted as one vote.

00:35:15 Speaker_05
Let's go back to the top, please. Google, okay, same thing in the New York Post. Says, fix is coming. Voting for Kamala Harris. Donald Trump will harm people.

00:35:26 Speaker_05
So it's negative things about Trump where you get negative things about Trump if you Google, where can I vote for Trump? You get negative things about Trump if you Google, where can I vote for Harris? And then right away, it says vote centers.

00:35:37 Speaker_05
First search result is vote centers after you get past the news. Fascinating. So it's true. So look, you don't see vote centers. You see all these stories. You don't see vote centers right away.

00:35:51 Speaker_05
When you Google where can I vote for Harris, you see vote centers right away. So it's not a conspiracy theory if you could just reproduce it, fuckers. There's clearly a slant with what the media

00:36:09 Speaker_07
And that's the other thing with a map popped up. I think Trump said, you know, the advantage he's also running against the media and the media is terrible.

00:36:17 Speaker_07
And I think his one of his big advantages has been, you know, he's been able to kind of call them out. successfully multiple times. Yeah. And so it's not just he's running against Kamala Harris.

00:36:31 Speaker_07
He's running against a hostile media that does a terrible job at reporting facts when it comes to him. Well, Donald Trump says wild shit. And some of it's a lot of it stands on its own is wild and crazy. Yeah.

00:36:45 Speaker_07
But when they manipulate it, you know, Piers Morgan the other night, when he goes, there'll be a bloodbath in the auto industry if I'm not elected. And then they just say, oh, there's Trump. If he's not elected, it's going to be a bloodbath.

00:36:57 Speaker_05
One of the reasons why I was willing to endorse him was watching Obama repeat the lie that he said that white supremacists, that there's very fine people on both sides.

00:37:06 Speaker_03
Right.

00:37:07 Speaker_05
Yeah. That's a terrible lie. He literally says, I'm not talking about white supremacists and the KKK. Those people should be condemned. That's right. That's what he says. Yeah. Well, and that's the whole thing.

00:37:20 Speaker_05
What he's talking about was the people that were coming to protest the fact that a statue was being taken down. What's interesting about Trump is- Wasn't that what it was? A statue?

00:37:25 Speaker_07
He was the first guy, yes. He was the first guy in Palm Beach. Whatever you think of Trump, there's reasons to not like him.

00:37:30 Speaker_07
There's very legitimate reasons not to like him, but he was the first guy in Palm Beach that opened Mar-a-Lago to Jewish people, to gay people, to people of color. People were allowed, there was all these country clubs in Palm Beach that prevented

00:37:46 Speaker_07
those people and now obviously people go well he just did that for money and it's like sure fine whatever but like he was the guy who did it right he's only he was short of members yeah they did it for money like yeah he opened the door and you know so to me it's like

00:38:04 Speaker_07
His one of the his biggest advantages has always been That the press cannot help themselves when it comes to him They are rage addicts and they like hating him and he feeds them and they get more popular and they get bigger When he is around well when he lost the election CNN dropped 40% That's right.

00:38:27 Speaker_07
So like right away. They're addicted to being in a hostile contentious relationship with him and they misrepresent a lot of what he says. Just flat out lies. And that's a huge problem and they can't help themselves.

00:38:44 Speaker_07
If they got out of the way it would hurt him because like any politician then you're just going to be dealing with

00:38:53 Speaker_07
other politicians or your supporters or your detractors or whoever, but you have this media that's lying about you and you can constantly call it out. It helps them.

00:39:03 Speaker_05
I think the cat's out of the bag, though, with the media. Oh, it's over. It's over. It's big time. I mean, the video that I did with Trump is well over 100 million views. Yeah. Between Twitter and YouTube and Spotify, well over 100 million.

00:39:20 Speaker_05
The one I did with Elon just yesterday was this morning. It had 65 million views just on Twitter. I don't want to upstage you.

00:39:28 Speaker_07
The video that I did with JD Vance got 3 billion views. It got 3 billion views. Nice. So I don't want to upset you. But no, I mean, do you do you think It's going, because me and you talked about this.

00:39:43 Speaker_07
I think it will be decided tonight, but you think maybe not.

00:39:46 Speaker_05
No, not if it's close. Interesting. I think that's when shenanigans take place. Shenanigans. If shenanigans are real, okay, there's manipulation. Manipulation will take place at four o'clock in the morning. Interesting. Don't you think?

00:40:02 Speaker_05
Don't you think that's when ballots show up? I mean, if you're going to cheat on both sides, I'm not accusing any side.

00:40:07 Speaker_07
My grandmother died in 2017. She was a big Democrat. She's been voting lately? And she voted six times for Kamala Harris. And if you think that's wrong, that's disgusting. I don't know what to tell you. That's who she would have voted for.

00:40:19 Speaker_07
She probably would have.

00:40:20 Speaker_05
So in her honor.

00:40:21 Speaker_07
Yeah. I don't know how much fuckery is going on down at the ballot box. Probably some. For sure. So my friend who's actually outside, but I'm not going to say his name. I don't want to hurt him. Andrew Vickers is a Boston comedian.

00:40:35 Speaker_07
Someone sent him a thing where, um, There were like duplicate ballots in Georgia in 2020 like weird stuff this weird stuff like really weird now.

00:40:46 Speaker_07
I was a guy who was like I I bought the idea that I was like trump lost and people wanted biden and whatever and maybe that is a I don't know but like there's there seems to be more evidence of fuckery than

00:41:01 Speaker_07
Was willing to but that doesn't mean it's there's probably fuckery in every election. There's not zero. There's not zero, right?

00:41:08 Speaker_05
So in every election, there's something when I asked Trump like how do you say you lost the 2020 election? Can you prove it? So show tell me I gave right I gave him all the room.

00:41:17 Speaker_05
I would have given him an hour Yeah, like tell me yeah, he's like there's plenty of information. They wrote a book. It's coming out like okay put it out in a digestible form. You've had four years. Maybe it's out and I don't know. I haven't seen it.

00:41:30 Speaker_05
No one sent it my way.

00:41:32 Speaker_07
I'm willing to believe, and not willing to believe, we know that the tech companies and the Intel agencies all coordinated to suppress certain stories and like, they all admitted that. No question.

00:41:43 Speaker_07
You know, I haven't seen the direct evidence of- That's election interference. That is hugely election interference.

00:41:48 Speaker_05
Well, they said that would have affected millions of people's decisions. Yeah, well then that's a huge problem. That's a giant problem. You have 300 million people. The elections in the counties where Biden won was by like how many votes total?

00:42:01 Speaker_05
I think it was like 83,000 in PA. It was very- Crazy. That's crazy. It was crazy. And if you imagine if 83 of those thousand people, if just half of them got a hold of that laptop story. Yeah.

00:42:15 Speaker_07
And listen, I think a huge problem is that the intelligence agencies are completely unaccountable. Yeah. Meaning that there's been no accountability at all for anyone who suppressed the laptop story.

00:42:32 Speaker_07
I mean, where is this Kim Cheadle woman who the head of the Secret Service, the craziest thing in the world, the slope roof lady, the slope roof. I've taken gravity bong hits on acid on roofs that have more of a pitch than that. And I didn't fall off.

00:42:47 Speaker_07
I'm not exactly a Navy SEAL. And I was able to do it.

00:42:50 Speaker_05
They had snipers on a similar roof that had more of a pitch.

00:42:53 Speaker_07
The whole thing is as shady as humanly possible He was cremated the house was 11 days.

00:42:57 Speaker_05
The house was professionally scrubbed professionally scrubbed and then nobody talks about it Well, did you see the the cell phone data that shows that someone was meeting up with him and meeting FBI?

00:43:08 Speaker_05
or close to close to the FBI offices was meeting up with them on a regular basis and

00:43:12 Speaker_06
Where is this woman?

00:43:13 Speaker_05
He's in a black rock commercial.

00:43:15 Speaker_06
Yeah, the whole thing is weird.

00:43:17 Speaker_07
And then beyond it's beyond strangely Harvey Oswald 2024. It's fucking crazy. He has no digital footprint. There's not one but there's very few people that age that have no digital footprint, right?

00:43:30 Speaker_07
And then if you talk about any of this or you say anything, people write it off as sort of a QAnon, whatever. But it isn't. It's valid, legit. And people, normies, people that don't think like this are even going, that was fucking weird.

00:43:46 Speaker_05
It's just weird that they never had a press conference. They never had a toxicology exam that was released. Yeah. It was like someone wants to shoot the president. Wouldn't you assume that person's out of their fucking mind? Maybe they're on meth.

00:43:58 Speaker_05
Maybe that maybe we can figure find some sort of a reason why we feel a little bit better.

00:44:02 Speaker_07
And then the next guy was a guy who, like the Three Stooges, a barrel of a gun is going through the bushes on a golf course. Like something out of the Marx Brothers.

00:44:15 Speaker_07
And that guy was a guy that CNN or MSN, I forget which one, had been speaking to about the Ukraine. He wrote a song about the Ukraine and how important it was to support the Ukraine. And he was being interviewed by,

00:44:30 Speaker_07
the news like a cable news and they had a relationship with him and Imagine if Fox News had a relationship with somebody who tried to assassinate Obama Biden Harris right that never you would have never heard the end of it right most people hearing this maybe you're hearing this for the first time but like he was this was like a source or this guy that they kind of profiled and

00:44:55 Speaker_07
You know, it came out that he was, and then his kid got busted for child porn. Wild.

00:45:02 Speaker_05
Just like Steven Paddock's brother. Yes, that's what's wild. I'm just saying. Hey, how much do you know about the Vegas thing? Not enough, but that's never stopped me before. Is it true that there's three women that were checked into the room with him?

00:45:13 Speaker_05
I was reading this thing the other day about how there's three unaccounted for women that apparently checked into the room with him. Interesting. I don't know that, but... What's that, Jamie?

00:45:23 Speaker_04
I've never heard that. You never heard that? I've researched it a lot. I mean, there's cell phones, I think, that were found that were unaccounted for. He had a girlfriend that wasn't there that I think he sent to the Philippines or something like that.

00:45:33 Speaker_04
But that's right.

00:45:34 Speaker_07
Mary Lou Danley was a girlfriend who went to the Philippines. Jamie's controlled opposition. You know, you can't really. He's a Reddit mob. I mean, he's a guy. He does it. Who knows where he's. He's getting texts from Netanyahu, this guy.

00:45:48 Speaker_07
Kamala Harris is on speed dial. Yeah, I don't know, it feels, it's an interesting day because everybody has a weird tension. Not here, people are friendly here. But I was just in a car accident, everyone was friendly.

00:46:00 Speaker_07
And the cops were friendly, everyone was kind of friendly. Did anybody recognize you? No. Did you wear the glasses?

00:46:06 Speaker_07
Yeah, it was a nice Mexican guy and it was good like nobody my friend you from yeah, the Tim Dillon show Yeah, no, it was it was all very nice and it was not and that's the thing about car accidents It can be nice and it wasn't my car was yeah, you know It was kind of a rental and it was just kind of nice to meet people and be out but

00:46:24 Speaker_07
You know, it is a weird, there is an interesting, I think people just want this to be over. They need to move on.

00:46:32 Speaker_05
Yeah, it would be nice, no matter who wins, if we could all... Just take a breath. Let's imagine she wins, and one of the things that she has been very good about during the whole campaign is changing her opinions. That's right.

00:46:46 Speaker_05
Based on what people think. Absolutely. If we can influence the president based on popular opinion, isn't that a good thing? Joe, I'm great at lying. Get ready.

00:46:54 Speaker_07
I hate ice cream. Like, what she's been able to do, which I respect, is look at the American people in line with them. And that's good. Or at least adjust her opinion. She's adjusting. Let's, like, be, you know... I agree.

00:47:06 Speaker_07
Listen, I'm for... Charitable as possible. I'm charitable with her. I'm very charitable. I don't think she's, like, the worst. I like her. I think she's fun. I think she'd be fun to sit and have a drink with.

00:47:16 Speaker_07
I was really hoping I was gonna get to talk to her. I was wishing that you would, too. God.

00:47:20 Speaker_05
I mean, it's just the options were fly to her and meet for 45 minutes. And I was like, that's not what you do. It's, you know, Elon said it best yesterday. He goes, you really find out about people in hour two and three. Yeah. Yeah.

00:47:33 Speaker_05
Like you could bullshit people for 45 minutes, hour two or three, something's going to come up.

00:47:38 Speaker_07
Well, the great thing about your show is that it's not scripted talking points, where people don't come on with an agenda and go, here, I want to say this, that, and the other thing, you sit there for hours, you talk to them, you have a real conversation, and what they really think will come out.

00:47:52 Speaker_05
And, but here's the thing, I'm going to be nice to you. I'm going to be nice to Kamala Harris. I would be so friendly to her. I wouldn't try any gotcha bullshit. I'm not interested in doing that. I genuinely wanted to know who she is as a person.

00:48:05 Speaker_05
You'd shoot guns with her? She has a Glock. Sure, let's go shoot. I'll take her to the range. If she was on this show getting high, Oh my god. Smoking weed and then waving a gun around? Well, she didn't have to wave the gun. Then I vote.

00:48:15 Speaker_05
That's, you know, that's bad gun handling. Of course, but it's, I understand. Gun safety's important. Don't point guns. Sure, but it's fun. Even when they unloaded Tim Dillon. Yeah, but it's fun. It would be fun, but here's the thing.

00:48:26 Speaker_05
If she did come on and just had a little cocktail. Her and I have a couple of whiskeys, talk a little shit. I bet she's fun. She's not much older than me. Yeah, no, she's probably fun.

00:48:36 Speaker_07
She probably is surprised. She was pretty hot when she was younger. Listen, she's an attractive lady. She's probably surprised that she's running for president because they told her. You know, she probably wanted to.

00:48:45 Speaker_07
There's reports that she was like, you're not going to pass me over. Because they wanted to. Is that what she said? Yeah. They didn't want her. Did she really have that kind of say, though? Yes. How?

00:48:57 Speaker_07
Because she would have thrown a fit and said they overlooked a woman of color. Or had a press conference and exposed a lot of shit about how the machine works. Whatever she could have done, they didn't want to deal with that.

00:49:09 Speaker_07
And she's been a careerist her whole life and she wanted the job.

00:49:12 Speaker_05
What I heard was that Joe Biden kind of forced her in. No way. What I heard was that they were going to have a primary, but the Joe Biden said that he endorsed her. He endorsed her.

00:49:23 Speaker_05
And then it was this weird situation where they got to kind of like run her. Interesting. By the way, I'm hearing this from fucking random people in the alleyways.

00:49:31 Speaker_07
We're all hearing it from random people. I think she's a very motivated, strategic person.

00:49:37 Speaker_05
Is there any evidence of that, Jamie? Find out if Joe Biden endorsed her and whether or not- I think he was made to endorse her.

00:49:44 Speaker_07
You know, he doesn't.

00:49:45 Speaker_04
I'll check that, but there is three women supposedly with Steven Paddock. Oh, good. I just checked this in. Oh, there was? Yeah, sorry.

00:49:50 Speaker_05
Steven Paddock's hotel records show ... Oh, controlled opposition.

00:49:53 Speaker_04
There we are.

00:49:54 Speaker_05
Gets a fucking fact check by community. He's also six years old. Well, still, the whole story is six years old. Steven Paddock's hotel records show three women registered in his room.

00:50:03 Speaker_05
Interesting, but they could have been hoes Like this guy was a crazy riverboat. Do you register a hooker to the room? Fuck?

00:50:11 Speaker_05
Yeah, if you're a wild man, you give him a card, especially if you don't want those ladies stealing your role That's a good point. You got to trust and show trust Ask Hans Kim that gets wild.

00:50:21 Speaker_07
Oh, really?

00:50:21 Speaker_05
Somebody took his Rolex Lady and she she drugged him. He was probably showing in the Rolex He probably was that dumbass. This is my dick. Hans is probably not so slick.

00:50:37 Speaker_05
But if you wanted to make sure they weren't stealing from you, you have to have ID to get into the room. Because this guy's a riverboat gambler. This guy's a wild dude, right? He was a professional gambler. Professional gamblers.

00:50:49 Speaker_05
I think hookers and professional gamblers.

00:50:51 Speaker_07
Yeah, they just fucking and also he had no track record That's the other thing that Paddock was interesting. He just kind of is that he's emerged, right?

00:50:58 Speaker_04
That's interesting about these people He might have been a gambler, but they gave him credit for being like a video poker. That's If you ask people that are really into gambling like no one makes a lot of money video poker gambling really

00:51:12 Speaker_07
Well, they there's all kinds of reports about that that it was some weird Saudi coup that they locked down the country and the days after I I don't really know enough about it, but it was a very strange thing that Has never been fully I mean is he just shooting at a concert like what?

00:51:29 Speaker_07
Supposedly he lost his mind and then he just wanted to kill everybody and here's the thing though.

00:51:35 Speaker_05
That's real, too That's real, too That's real, too And if you really wanted to make a splash and you knew you're gonna kill yourself And you were some fucking psycho and you just wanted to gun down a bunch of people. Yeah, bang.

00:51:45 Speaker_07
Oh, let's see.

00:51:46 Speaker_05
What's next?

00:51:46 Speaker_07
I you know, it's one of those things where it disappears and then the thing about all of this is the news moves so quickly and so much is going on and You can't, it gets hazy, the recollection of it. Like the Trump shooting, even.

00:52:03 Speaker_07
The recollection will get hazy. In a few months from now, forget a few years, even in a few months, the idea of it being a slope roof, people don't remember. People just remember a guy climbed on a roof. They don't remember it was 120 yards away.

00:52:17 Speaker_07
The Secret Service didn't clear the roof. He was walking around. People were telling them there's a guy walking around, he's creepy. He flew a drone over the area. He had a range finder. Yeah, all of those details that are very important.

00:52:31 Speaker_07
But the range finder is nuts.

00:52:33 Speaker_05
Like anybody with a range finder should be arrested. Right. If you have a range finder and you're walking around an area where the president or president candidate is going to be, you should be arrested.

00:52:42 Speaker_05
Someone should find out what you're doing, what you're up to.

00:52:44 Speaker_07
And didn't he have explosives in the car? Yeah.

00:52:47 Speaker_05
He had explosives, and they're sophisticated, with radio-controlled devices. He had remote-controlled explosives. How is he getting that? He's 20 years old. What Google search do you have? Where are you ordering these things?

00:53:00 Speaker_05
Are you putting them together? Did someone manufacture it for you? Who'd you buy it from? Where's the investigation? Nothing, nothing.

00:53:08 Speaker_07
There's one thing where his father is leaving a Costco. There's one like video, Jamie, maybe you could pull it up, where there's like one reporter and his dad and someone in like a mask are leaving Costco or BJ's or something like that.

00:53:28 Speaker_07
And he's like, no comment. And he just gets into his car. That's kind of the only time I've ever seen The parent, this is the only, I think they released a statement like we're terribly blah, blah, blah.

00:53:43 Speaker_05
It's also interesting. It's like some people here it is. This is the dad. Well, this is Trump shoes. Dad blows off questions.

00:53:51 Speaker_06
I got a piece at, but he's, there's another one where he's leaving a Costco.

00:53:56 Speaker_05
Let me hear him talking. I was trying to find out if that was the correct video.

00:53:59 Speaker_04
Yeah.

00:53:59 Speaker_05
That's him talking. Let's hear what he says.

00:54:06 Speaker_07
Is there any statement you'd be willing to share with us right now, Mr. Crooks? I gotta pee.

00:54:13 Speaker_04
I gotta pee, says Forrest Gump quote.

00:54:17 Speaker_05
Interesting. Yeah. I mean, that guy's a little casual for the fact that his son just tried to kill the fucking president.

00:54:23 Speaker_07
He was at Costco. Well, look how calm he looks. He looked very calm leaving Costco. And he has a full cart of food leaving. Like, it's insane.

00:54:35 Speaker_05
Well not only that, imagine your son is, forget about the fact that he tried to kill Trump, he did kill someone and he shot two other people. He killed a guy who was trying to shield his wife and children.

00:54:45 Speaker_07
Look, can you stop this for a minute? Who is getting that much food two weeks after your son tried to kill the president? Well, look at the size of that fella.

00:54:56 Speaker_05
He probably eats a lot of food.

00:54:57 Speaker_07
I get it. But he has a full cart. And by the way, he can't get anyone to go to Costco for him. He's walking around buying mini taquitos. Well, he probably doesn't have any money.

00:55:06 Speaker_05
I mean, he's not a wealthy guy. Right?

00:55:09 Speaker_07
I mean, you gotta have a friend that'll go to Costco for you.

00:55:12 Speaker_05
That's a pretty nice car. What is that? Is it a BMW?

00:55:13 Speaker_07
You gotta have a friend that'll go to Costco. This guy's got a full cart.

00:55:16 Speaker_05
What is that car? That looks like a pretty nice car.

00:55:19 Speaker_07
This is just a weird, to me, it's an interesting, like right after your son does this, you're at Costco buying the store. With the Unabomber. Yeah, with someone, with some fed in a mask. With sunglasses on.

00:55:32 Speaker_07
The CIA goes, we'll take you to Costco, keep your mouth shut. Yeah, look at this guy with the glasses.

00:55:37 Speaker_05
What is, who's this? The hat, the hood. Who's this? He's got gloves on, dude. He's got gloves on so he doesn't leave fingerprints. It's crazy. The guy has gloves on. It's insane. What does he have gloves on for? It's not cold out.

00:55:50 Speaker_05
Don't show me this guy dying.

00:55:52 Speaker_06
Jamie, can you please?

00:55:53 Speaker_05
Jamie, stop with your algorithm.

00:55:55 Speaker_07
Jamie, enough. Jamie, he was raised on LiveLeak.

00:55:59 Speaker_05
He was. Remember that?

00:56:01 Speaker_07
Yes, he was raised on beheading videos on LiveLeak.

00:56:03 Speaker_05
That was back before Instagram. Yeah, the good old days. Nowadays, I've seen more people murdered over the last three years on Instagram than I have my entire life of people, psychos, sending me things in emails.

00:56:13 Speaker_07
Crazy. Did you see that video where the kid jumps off the cruise ship and the shark gets him? It's tough out there. But you can't do dumb shit. Sometimes you do.

00:56:23 Speaker_07
The summer between high school and college, we all know one person who did a really dumb thing and that was it. And sometimes you're that guy. Nobody wants to be that guy, but sometimes you're that cautionary tale.

00:56:35 Speaker_07
And that kid will be immortalized every time someone will go out to dinner or something, they'll go, when I was 18, we took a cruise for our high school graduation and a kid jumped off the boat and a tiger shark got him, that was it.

00:56:50 Speaker_07
And people will talk about that and tell their kids that and it's a terrible thing in a moment You hit the water you fucking feel those teeth on your ribcage Well, I think he's treading for a minute and then you just see him kind of go under they don't know what it is but it's probably a shark and he voted for Kamala, so if you're Telling me he's not even racist

00:57:15 Speaker_07
Last night I'm watching Rally and I'm watching Oprah's actor and she goes, if you don't cast a ballad for Kamala, you may never be able to cast a ballad again, which seems extreme. That's so crazy. Can you get up to Rally? I want you to watch this.

00:57:27 Speaker_07
Will.i.am is on the Rally and he's doing this crazy Kamala rap. And then there are these two white kids, like college kids, like awkwardly dancing to this music. And then there's Doug Emhoff and then Tim Walz. And I'm like,

00:57:41 Speaker_07
These are the whitest people, like Kamala's just surrounded by this circle of like white nerds and weird people and they're all like kind of trying to dance and it's like a really sad, whereas Michelle Obama is just a much better speaker.

00:57:55 Speaker_07
Like Michelle Obama. Why didn't she run? I don't know why. She would have won. She is in a landslide when you watch her talk you go. She's a political talent. It's raw. It's amazing.

00:58:05 Speaker_05
I can deliver She didn't want to she went with it through her husband. Yeah doing that. I think she's like fuck this It's probably shitty job. Not only that you don't make as much money as you do being an ex-president

00:58:16 Speaker_07
Yeah, I think if Trump didn't have the rallies, he might not want to even do it because it probably sucks once you're in there, but it's probably fun to be able to go on the road.

00:58:23 Speaker_07
Like he goes on the road like a comedian, and he's able to kind of, you know, I bet once you get in there and you realize, oh, this is how it all works, and this is how many deals everybody has that are pre-existing, and if I touch this, this happens.

00:58:35 Speaker_07
If I touch that, that happens. I bet it's probably not that fun.

00:58:39 Speaker_05
Well, I bet it's probably fun. Well, first of all, Trump is almost 80 years old, right? He's been famous most of his life, right? Most of his adult life. And at this point in time, you know, he's not on The Apprentice anymore. How's he get his jollies?

00:58:51 Speaker_00
Right.

00:58:51 Speaker_05
He's got to have fun. He's performing when he goes out and he does those- Kills. He kills. Kills. He has bits.

00:58:57 Speaker_07
He kills, people love it. Yeah. Yeah. He's this funny shit man. And here's the thing, and Andrew Sullivan, who's a writer from the UK, who's again, not even, he's voting for Kamala, but he lives in America, but he said,

00:59:09 Speaker_07
The thing about Trump is like you can't say the rallies are not democratic. They're the most democratic thing. It might be, he goes, it's America in its foulest glory.

00:59:20 Speaker_07
Like, like, listen, it might be crass and it might be certain parts of it might feel, you know, vulgar or whatever, but it is democratic to have people come out to speak directly to them and then have them vote for you. That is in essence democratic.

00:59:35 Speaker_07
Well, you have the same thing on both sides.

00:59:36 Speaker_05
Right. You have low information tribal voters. Right.

00:59:40 Speaker_05
So you have low information tribal voters on the left who really do think Trump said there's very fine people on both sides and really do believe in the Russia hoax, really do believe in all that stuff.

00:59:52 Speaker_05
And then you have people on the other side that are like ready to fucking shoot liberals. That's right. And they have their signs, their Trump signs, electrocuted in their front yard to make sure people don't steal them.

01:00:03 Speaker_05
There's people that are off the rails tribally. When you have a group, and this is what I try to... If you make a group, and anybody could join that group, it's going to be infiltrated by idiots. Right. 100% of the time.

01:00:16 Speaker_05
And then those people are going to do radical things in the name of your group, and then you have the Proud Boys.

01:00:21 Speaker_07
Yes. And then you have the extremes. You have people that just drift towards the extremes. And the whole premise of political life in America should be to keep people from drifting to those crazy extremes. One hundred percent.

01:00:36 Speaker_05
And the more you meet people in the middle, the less they're going to do that.

01:00:39 Speaker_05
The more you're reasonable instead of attacking people in this fucking crazy way where we know it's not true I can't like I used to think obama was the best president ever because obama I think still to this day the best statesman He was the best example that you could take this guy Who is from a single family?

01:00:58 Speaker_05
It's not like he didn't grow a single mom, right? He didn't grow up with great privilege obviously a brilliant guy obviously very smart great orator and And hey, we elected a black president.

01:01:08 Speaker_05
Maybe racial tensions can relax a little bit in this country. Realize anybody could rise based on the merit of what they can do and who they are and what they stand for. I was like, he's the best.

01:01:19 Speaker_05
Finally, I felt really good about America when Obama was the president. Honestly, I wasn't paying attention to politics back then. that I didn't understand about. He was one of the worst presidents ever in terms of going after whistleblowers.

01:01:30 Speaker_05
That was a part of the Hope and Change website, was that they were going to provide safety to whistleblowers. That's not the case at all. It was one of the worst.

01:01:39 Speaker_07
No, Obama was an extension in many ways of the national security policies of George W. Bush. which was a, you know, kind of zero tolerance policy for whistleblowers. And it was a, you know, the government has proprietary information.

01:01:59 Speaker_05
And, you know, if you- Well, there was two things that were passed during his administration that should terrify people. One of them, I think NDAA was passed during his administration. And the other one was the CIA's ability to use propaganda.

01:02:12 Speaker_05
That the intelligence agencies are now legally allowed to lie and use propaganda and fake stories in the interest of national security.

01:02:19 Speaker_07
Yeah. The problem really is you're taking on when you take on this. behemoth, this thing that we've built, it's very difficult to make inroads.

01:02:34 Speaker_07
And I wish Trump luck, I wish anyone luck, that is trying to take this blob on, this unruly, unelected, unaccountable.

01:02:45 Speaker_05
You don't know how to do the job. You've never done it before. And they don't tell you how to do the job until you get in there. No one explains to you what the fuck really goes on until you're behind the closed doors.

01:02:54 Speaker_05
That's why you got a guy like Putin. He knows how to run Russia. He's been running Russia for 25 fucking years. This guy knows how to do that job. He's really good at it.

01:03:03 Speaker_05
If you take a comic on the road with you and he's got to do an arena and he's only been doing comedy for 10 months, you're like, hey, buddy.

01:03:08 Speaker_07
Well, Putin's job is to just mediate conflicts between oligarchs, which is what he does very well. And I think that's what people misunderstand about Russia. I've read a lot about Russia. And poison rivals. He's really good at that. People get sick, Joe.

01:03:22 Speaker_07
They do. I was so mad they all got Russian money. They gave Tim Poole and all these people Russian money. I've been defending Russia for free for two years on my show. Not a dollar. How did they get that money?

01:03:34 Speaker_07
What is the actual story behind the Russian money? I don't know, but it was a front group that was, I guess Russia was giving this group money and they were sponsoring these media entities that were, I don't think they even knew.

01:03:46 Speaker_07
I don't think the people knew. Right. That they were getting Russian money, but some of them might have been able to sniff it out.

01:03:51 Speaker_05
I don't really know. Here's my question. Yeah. Isn't that a way that they could compromise you without compromising you? Sure. Just say you're connected to Russian money. It doesn't matter what your opinion is.

01:04:02 Speaker_05
Say if your opinion is counter to the narrative, but they sponsor you. And they give you the money and then it leaks.

01:04:08 Speaker_07
A thousand percent. That could have been it. It could have also been Russia doing it. It could have been us doing it. They could have killed Navalny. We could have killed Navalny. There was no reason for them to kill Navalny. He was in a Siberian prison.

01:04:21 Speaker_07
We had a very... But he was an enemy of Putin, right? Wouldn't it be more logical that Putin just wanted to get him whacked? No, because Navalny was never widely popular in Russia. This is a lie. Navalny was a very, you know, kind of anti-Jewish,

01:04:39 Speaker_07
like, kind of really right-wing character, and a lot of his early writings were about that. Then he took a trip to Germany, and then he came back incredibly progressive and very enlightened, talking about Western values. Really?

01:04:50 Speaker_07
So he met someone somewhere that said, actually, this is better. And he came and said, OK. And they're like, tamp down the Jew stuff. So then he goes back to Russia. You know, it does all the things.

01:05:00 Speaker_07
He makes these documentaries that all the Putin's oligarch friends have big houses. Can you imagine that? People that are working with the government get really rich and have big houses. This is crazy. This is only in Russia.

01:05:09 Speaker_07
So Navalny does this whole thing and he shows all the corruption in Russia. And then our good government people go, look how corrupt Russia is. Putin's cronies get all these big houses. And Americans go, oh my God, so corrupt over there.

01:05:21 Speaker_07
And then, you know, listen, they try to poison them. I'm not defending and saying Putin's a great guy. But this idea that, you know, we like to look at other places and identify things that we are also doing here.

01:05:37 Speaker_07
Well, that was one of the things that Trump said that people get very upset about. We kill people here too.

01:05:41 Speaker_08
Yeah.

01:05:42 Speaker_07
So I don't want to live in Russia. I don't think Russia is a better place to live. And I think that the childish admiration for Putin among some people on the right is a little silly because they wouldn't want to live there either.

01:05:51 Speaker_07
And they wouldn't do it. It wouldn't be good to do a podcast in Russia. That being said, why are we spending billions and billions of dollars to try to drain the Russian military over a land border with the Ukraine. We have zero.

01:06:06 Speaker_07
And the reason is BlackRock and all these companies are being promised a lot of land in the Ukraine. They're being promised all, you know, Ukraine's a breadbasket of Europe. There's tons of agricultural land. A lot of it has a ton of it.

01:06:18 Speaker_07
There's minerals. Lindsey Graham, I mean Jamie probably has that that quote where Lindsey Graham literally said the quiet part out loud Where he said they've got all these minerals.

01:06:27 Speaker_07
We can't let Putin get that money says Lindsey Graham We can't let Putin get that money and he says he's my favorite and he says it and he's saying it out loud and so a lot of people are just like listen

01:06:42 Speaker_07
And the Navalny thing happened when we had a bill that was, I think it was a $60 billion bill for the Russia-Ukraine war that wasn't incredibly popular. People were getting sick of it.

01:06:56 Speaker_07
And then when Navalny died, again, I don't know who did it, but when he died, there was a renewed, you see, look how bad. Don't you see why we need this money? Look how terrible this person is. So it would have been a weird time for Putin to kill him.

01:07:09 Speaker_07
It wouldn't have made any sense. Putin's aware that we have a bill on deck. There's something crazy about Putin killing him exactly at that time.

01:07:22 Speaker_03
Let me hear Lindsey Graham talk. Let me hear him talk.

01:07:27 Speaker_10
Pause for a second. Tell me you couldn't picture that guy with a ball gag.

01:07:43 Speaker_05
And like a leather type bikini on.

01:07:45 Speaker_07
That's the least of what he has. But Jamie, there's another thing where he literally talks about the minerals, the rare earth minerals that are in the Ukraine, which is the entire reason. I put it on my Instagram.

01:07:57 Speaker_07
It's like, it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, this one right here.

01:08:01 Speaker_05
Ukraine sits on, go back up to the top where it's at.

01:08:04 Speaker_10
They're sitting on trillion dollars worth of minerals that could be good to our economy. So I want to keep helping our friends in Ukraine. They're sitting on 10 to 12 trillion dollars of critical minerals in Ukraine.

01:08:15 Speaker_10
They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China. If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of. There we go. Pause.

01:08:29 Speaker_10
How crazy is that guy?

01:08:31 Speaker_05
And how crazy is his job? International fuckery. Money and minerals.

01:08:38 Speaker_07
I would imagine something I should have been is he's a kind of a closeted gay supervillain, which seems like a fun thing to be. Why would we let Putin get that money? Is he supposed to be married? Isn't he married? Find out. But I mean, it's a fun thing.

01:08:57 Speaker_07
There's something funny about like a feminine male warmonger. Oh, he's a gay supervillain, which is great. Let Putin get that money.

01:09:04 Speaker_05
They'll be the best business partners we've ever had. Trillions and trillions of dollars in minerals. Trillions of minerals.

01:09:10 Speaker_07
I love pussy. Yeah, it's the best. Trillions of minerals in that Ukraine's wet pussy. Ukrainian pussy, something.

01:09:18 Speaker_07
It's crazy, but then you think about it, and there's all these young Ukrainian men and Russian men who are dying in this war because we've consistently told them not to make peace. And that's the dark part of it.

01:09:30 Speaker_05
He's never been married, has no children. Interesting. Oh, interesting. He was close friends with John McCain. What's that supposed to mean? Why are you throwing McCain under the bus? He's dead. He can't defend himself.

01:09:39 Speaker_05
So Lindsey Graham is a fun gay supervillain, and you need that. You need it.

01:09:44 Speaker_05
Because and it just made his way up the ladder He just made his way up the ladder like those guys are just like different kinds of people And I think that's what most normal people who live normal lives have a hard time understanding Because if you are a guy who works at a fucking auto repair shop

01:10:03 Speaker_05
You have no relationships at all with people like Lindsey Graham. You don't even think they exist.

01:10:08 Speaker_05
You know what it's like when, well let me tell you something, you don't have kids, but when you have kids, one of the things that happens is you go to these things where you have to hang out with parents.

01:10:20 Speaker_05
And the only things that you and the parents have in common is that you both have kids. And so you have these fucking agonizing conversations. And then you realize, oh, these people don't know any fun people.

01:10:33 Speaker_05
They don't have anyone in their life that lives a fun life. And they started asking questions like, how do you come up with your jokes? How do you make your podcast? Who are you talking to? How do you get these people to come on? What do you do?

01:10:44 Speaker_05
How'd you get into the UFC? All that stupid shit. But it's like, they don't know anybody who's living a weird life. We don't know anybody who's living that weird life.

01:10:53 Speaker_05
That weird Lindsey Graham life where you're all huddled up together wearing fucking suits and ties and you're in these halls of justice, these important, you're in the Senate room,

01:11:05 Speaker_05
You're in this room where everybody stands up and claps when the president says the most mundane shit.

01:11:10 Speaker_07
Well, it's also that political, that, that, that political, the survival instinct that somebody has, you know, decades of being in that position. I'm thinking about running. Oh, it's a lot of fun. What do you think I should be, a congressperson?

01:11:23 Speaker_07
That'd probably be easier.

01:11:24 Speaker_05
You can't, you gotta go governor. Governor? Executive. What state? Let me get a fucked up state. We'll do this, we live in it. No, I would never run against Abbott, I love that guy.

01:11:33 Speaker_07
Right right then and there you can't if you're not cut out for it.

01:11:36 Speaker_05
Yeah, I got a move not cut out now I am I am I'll do it a different way.

01:11:39 Speaker_07
I'm gonna move somewhere Utah I'll become a Mormon and I would have a lot of fun I think about it cuz I like DC and I think it might be fun for a few weeks to be like a press secretary That would be great.

01:11:52 Speaker_05
I bet those people party

01:11:54 Speaker_07
They party. Of course they party. I bet they party hard. They party in ways that are probably too hard. You know, did I tell you the one night where- I think there's documentaries about how hard they party.

01:12:03 Speaker_05
Did I tell you one night that I went out with Dave Chappelle in Denver? Ever tell you this story? Yeah, it was like the wildest thing ever. Well, it's like he knew these after hours places. Yeah, it was like a scene in John wick, right?

01:12:15 Speaker_05
We went through an alleyway We went through this big door into some like fucking warehouse and then there was this bar this beautifully appointed bar where the guy was wearing like a fucking a Tuxedo shirt with a vest on right and the woman was beautiful and there was no one in the bar, right?

01:12:33 Speaker_05
It was me and Dave Chappelle and a few other people. Yeah, and they kicked us out because Dave sparked up a joint That's so funny And then he took me to another place that was crazy.

01:12:40 Speaker_05
But it's like, he knows places where you can go and be private because he's stupid famous.

01:12:48 Speaker_05
So when you're a fucking politician and you're a part of an industry that has existed in these shadows for decades, doing things outside of the public's knowledge, the full integration of the intelligence agencies in the deep state, everybody's got dirt on everybody and there's maddams and fucking, there's all kinds of hookers.

01:13:08 Speaker_05
Crazy shit going on right you know so many people make it through that are like Andrew the Anthony Weiner guy absolute freaks Yeah, and they're in there.

01:13:15 Speaker_05
They're in there deep so this is not just one of those there's probably a fucking shitload of them It's an economy keep each other's secrets, and they probably get together, and they put on masks and fuck each other Yeah, like eyes wide shut.

01:13:27 Speaker_05
Yeah, that's it's probably real. It's probably the otherwise. What are they doing it for?

01:13:32 Speaker_07
It's a good point. What is the point? How do you let your hair down? Well, that's the whole thing with the Obama chef. People go, oh, the chef. And I go, if you can't drown your lover in Martha's Vineyard, why do anything? Right. Why be president?

01:13:45 Speaker_07
If you were the president, what the fuck is the point? I mean, truly, think about leaders throughout history. What is the point of not being able to kill your lover in two feet of water when he's a great swimmer?

01:13:55 Speaker_06
He's a great swimmer and very fit. And none of it made any sense. But it's like, that's the whole point. It's like, What happened to that investigation?

01:14:02 Speaker_07
There will never be one. Weird. There's never going to be one because at the end of the day, I don't think America really wants to know. I don't think they want to know. I think Tucker Carlson wants to know. Tucker might.

01:14:17 Speaker_07
He's maybe one guy that wants to know, but even him, does he really want to know?

01:14:20 Speaker_05
He had the guy on that claims he sucked Obama's dick. I know that's hilarious.

01:14:24 Speaker_07
They talked for an hour. But that's the thing. It's like, I think that there's a deep, deep misunderstanding of what this place is. And it's not only, you know, it's not only like crazy, like, oh, it's a sex parties and stuff like that. But we're,

01:14:49 Speaker_07
Doing a lot of things all over the world that people don't really know about nobody's nobody's abreast of what we're doing right doing things in Africa We're doing things here. We're doing things there.

01:14:59 Speaker_07
We've got a lot of we got a footprint everywhere and we're backing people that Sometimes they're people we align with our values a lot of times. They're not right like the whole Israel Gaza thing is a big Problem for Harris

01:15:17 Speaker_07
It's a major issue for her in Michigan. Interesting. Yeah, it's big.

01:15:23 Speaker_05
Did you see the reports that she was running two separate messages to two separate places? She was running a pro-Israel message to one place, and CNN called her out on it, and running a pro-Palestine message to another place? A lot of them do.

01:15:39 Speaker_05
That's what they do. But that's crazy that people are not going to check. It's crazy that CNN called her on it. Do I have hope for CNN? I think I do.

01:15:47 Speaker_05
I think CNN probably recognizes, hey, we have to actually just say the fucking news, except we're all pharmaceutical drugs. But everything else, just say the news.

01:15:55 Speaker_07
And I don't know what Trump will do in that situation with the Israelis.

01:16:00 Speaker_05
I hope he won't buy CNN. I hope that we don't invade Iran. I should have asked him yesterday if he was going to buy CNN. That would be amazing.

01:16:08 Speaker_07
Imagine if Elon bought CNN. Does CNN make any money? It's worth a lot of money.

01:16:14 Speaker_05
Is it? Yeah, because you think about the money that they generate through advertising.

01:16:18 Speaker_07
But it's all the pharmaceutical ad.

01:16:19 Speaker_05
That's the problem.

01:16:20 Speaker_07
So if he buys CNN.

01:16:21 Speaker_05
It's not all, but it's a large chunk. But the thing is, that money is real money. That's what keeps them afloat. If their numbers, if they had exist on YouTube, CNN's numbers existed on YouTube.

01:16:33 Speaker_07
There's no way they'd be able to support a giant fucking building filled with employees and be beholden to the same corporate advertisers that hold everybody hostage Meaning like the made the biggest advertiser in all of these cable networks is pharmaceutical companies because they're all The the demographic is geriatric people watching them

01:16:53 Speaker_05
Well, the problem is that you can advertise with pharmaceutical drug companies in this country, and only two countries in the world allow it, us and New Zealand, and New Zealand's more restrictive than the United States.

01:17:02 Speaker_07
Have you ever watched the ads on Fox News? It's all like life alert. It's like fall down in the shower, pharmaceuticals. Well, it's all scared.

01:17:09 Speaker_05
Fox News, if you think about it, the demographics is older, scared white people. That's what I think about when I think of Fox News.

01:17:15 Speaker_07
Yeah, so I guess you just got to find a way to make it profitable without...

01:17:19 Speaker_05
those types of ads or those companies have to let you... This is my point. I think it's a Ponzi scheme. I don't think it is profitable without those kinds of ads. No, it won't be. Because it's not profitable based on the viewership, right?

01:17:32 Speaker_05
So you can get major advertisers who are willing to spend a lot of money for the prestige of being on CNN. There's something to that. You know, like an ad on CNN maybe means more than an ad on YouTube.

01:17:43 Speaker_05
But the reality is, if you look at the actual numbers, like how much revenue you're generating for your company, unless you are engaged purely in propaganda, and this is the argument.

01:17:53 Speaker_05
So like, what was the quote that someone said to us the other day about how, it was Callie Means, said how much the pharmaceutical drug companies spend on advertising every year. And it's, Billions of dollars. Just on ads.

01:18:07 Speaker_05
Billions and billions of dollars. I think it was... Was it 8 or 80? What did he say it was? Jamie will find it. It's got to be crazy.

01:18:17 Speaker_05
It's an insane amount of money, but that money is not making them money in terms of so many people are seeing those ads are going out and buying drugs. What that is doing is it's ensuring that there's no criticism.

01:18:28 Speaker_05
It's ensuring that you don't question any narratives. That's right. That all the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. types, they all get demonized. They all get called kooks. They all get called dangerous anti-science people.

01:18:41 Speaker_07
I'm excited, you know, if Trump wins, I'm excited to see if RFK really gets to, like, start doing stuff.

01:18:48 Speaker_05
Look at that number. Pharmaceutical industry spent around $15.58 billion in advertising. $15 billion in ads. That is crazy. That's so much fucking money, man. Well, how are people going to know about the drugs? It's not that, man. I don't think it's that.

01:19:08 Speaker_05
I think it's a little bit of that because it normalizes it. It gets the words out, you know.

01:19:12 Speaker_07
We don't have a functioning health care system.

01:19:16 Speaker_05
Right.

01:19:17 Speaker_07
So it's not supposed to be like a grocery store where you pick the drug.

01:19:21 Speaker_05
If you have a good doctor, right, you can have a functioning health care system.

01:19:24 Speaker_07
Yeah, you gotta have some cash, you know, that's a problem It's like we have everything's for profit. Everything's like there's a million you ever go to a pharmacy in like a Scandinavian country. There's like 12 things.

01:19:35 Speaker_05
Yes, they don't have like our pharmacies are there's aisles and it's like a grocery store of all kinds of different shit It's just a real problem when you allow people to profit wildly off of people being sick Then they have a vested interest in people staying sick

01:19:50 Speaker_05
Whether it's mental illness, physical illness, whatever it is. What about RFK, do you think?

01:19:55 Speaker_07
It would be interesting to see him try, because he's, for a long time, he's been an advocate on behalf of not only, obviously, environmental stuff that's well known, but public health. Yes.

01:20:09 Speaker_05
So it'd be interesting to see what... 100%. First of all, why do we have fluoride in our fucking water? That's one of the things that they're talking about, that RFK was saying. Well, the British people's teeth were gross. Brush your fucking teeth.

01:20:20 Speaker_05
Is that why? Yeah.

01:20:21 Speaker_07
But they have fucked up teeth.

01:20:22 Speaker_05
I think part of the reason why they have fucked up teeth, they ate a lot of soft foods for generation after generation after generation.

01:20:27 Speaker_07
Isn't that the fluoride though that doesn't mangle?

01:20:28 Speaker_05
Well, fluoride does have a reaction to your teeth, but I mean, you're swallowing it. So how much of an effect is it? And also, it's really bad. It's bad for IQs.

01:20:39 Speaker_05
There's a direct correlation between high levels of fluoride in drinking water and low IQs in children. There's a corresponding number, depending upon the amount of fluoride in the water.

01:20:48 Speaker_05
I think the whole way they found this out about fluoride in teeth, I think it had to do with natural fluoride, and I think it all began in Texas. What is fluoride? Fluoride's a mineral.

01:21:00 Speaker_05
And fluoride is also a neurotoxin like at certain levels like depending on how much but right the point is

01:21:07 Speaker_05
The corresponding increase in sugar consumption is not taken into consideration when people are looking at when they started, people started getting tooth decay. And whether or not they had fluoride in the water.

01:21:21 Speaker_05
There's a time in our history where all of a sudden, massive amounts of processed food and sugar are introduced into our diet.

01:21:27 Speaker_05
Whatever it is, 70s, 80s, whatever year it was, where sugary cereals and fucking cookies and candy bars just became everywhere. That's when people started getting more cavities. That's also when people started experiencing all these health problems.

01:21:40 Speaker_05
Right. All that stuff is together. Chronic diseases and autoimmune conditions. It's the solution. It's not put fucking fluoride in the water. That's like saying, oh, some people get skin cancer, let's put sunscreen in the apples. No.

01:21:52 Speaker_05
Hey, you fucking idiot. First of all, you can have toothpaste with fluoride in it if you so choose. Mine doesn't have fluoride in it. I haven't had fluoride toothpaste for fucking years. I don't have any cavities. You know why? I brush my teeth.

01:22:04 Speaker_05
Where is all this non-fluoride toothpaste? Can you share it with some of us? Tom's of Maine. Oh, at Tom's of Maine. Yeah, it's good stuff. There's a lot of companies that sell. And Eddie Bravo had a really good point, believe it or not.

01:22:14 Speaker_05
Eddie Bravo had a really good point that wasn't crazy. He said, why would they say fluoride-free in a toothpaste if fluoride wasn't potentially bad for you?

01:22:25 Speaker_05
Why would anybody want fluoride-free toothpaste if fluoride was really the active ingredient that was preventing you from having tooth decay?

01:22:31 Speaker_07
Well, it's also when I saw, like, Doug Amhoff at Whataburger or Trump at McDonald's, I was like, we shouldn't have these politicians be in these, like, they're kind of like poison factories.

01:22:41 Speaker_07
We should have politicians... That's like kind of showing up to a Marlboro factory and lighting up. Like, there's something weird to me about... Yes.

01:22:48 Speaker_05
But, yes but, I eat McDonald's. If I'm on the road, like a year ago I had a quarter pound of cheese.

01:22:55 Speaker_07
You have to stop comparing yourself to like other people because like you have a tremendous amount of discipline and it's like the nine-year-old getting fat at McDonald's is not going to be able, so I'm just like this celebration of fast food and listen I love fast food and I was raised on it, my family raised me on it, thanks.

01:23:12 Speaker_07
But like when you see politicians going in there, it is a weird feeling. It is weird. It's like odd to see that.

01:23:19 Speaker_05
Yeah, but I liken it to being at a Coca-Cola factory. I don't have a problem. That's bad too. I know, but again, I do have discipline.

01:23:27 Speaker_07
RFK's got to send the military into these places. Taco Bell, Denny's, they fucked us all up. Taco Bell now has the Mexi-Melt is back. Did you know that? I don't even know what the Mexi-Melt is. Well, it's on the decades menu.

01:23:43 Speaker_07
Taco Bell's bringing back things from previous decades. And they've brought the Mexi-Melt back. They're fucking big. Because Ozempic and all this shit hit, and now fast food's doubling down. Because fast food's going, fuck me, fuck you.

01:23:59 Speaker_07
They're going to start to bring back shit. This is now coming back. That does look good.

01:24:05 Speaker_05
That is the least Mexican of all Mexican foods.

01:24:07 Speaker_07
Yeah, no, it has nothing to do with Mexico. Yeah, it's just garbage. But fast food will not go away quietly. They think, oh, we're going to bring in these drugs. Fast food's like, you'll see what we'll do. Yeah, that's fine.

01:24:16 Speaker_05
Let them do it. I'm fine with that. No one's going to mandate Taco Bell. That's the thing.

01:24:21 Speaker_07
But there is something. You go to Australia and it's an anti-state. Nobody's allowed to do anything. But you know what? They're kind of hot, all of them.

01:24:28 Speaker_05
Not only that, they have grass-fed beef in their burgers. I know my buddy Adam came over here, and he had a he always gets a quarter pounder with cheese Yeah, Australia, whatever the fuck they call it and he said he goes dude. I had one over here.

01:24:39 Speaker_05
It tastes like cardboard It was fucking terrible right he goes back home.

01:24:43 Speaker_07
It's like fresh grass-fed beef well Also, they'll pay you over if you're driving in Australia They just have TV checkpoints no matter who you are and you'll just go through them and blow and obviously I'm against that because I think it's you know it's like an infringing in your freedom, but they love it there well They don't have guns

01:24:57 Speaker_07
They go, we love it, and they go, we feel safe. But it's also they've just accepted it.

01:25:02 Speaker_05
Well, they've gotten accustomed to it, but they didn't used to be like that. It's literally a prison colony.

01:25:06 Speaker_07
Yeah, but they don't care. That's the thing. But they do. Do they?

01:25:10 Speaker_05
They do. They're very upset.

01:25:11 Speaker_07
I talk to Australians, and they're happy with it. My buddy wants to move here. Of course he does, because he's your buddy. But most of them are not that bothered by it. They don't care.

01:25:21 Speaker_05
I wonder if that's true. I just don't know. I think it's their reality. It's the reality that they live in and you grow to accept it.

01:25:27 Speaker_07
Because they look at us and they go, you guys have school shootings, you have poison food, and great, you get to work and drop dead and all that stuff. We are, yes, we are nannied, which I would never want to live there.

01:25:40 Speaker_07
But I don't know, I talk to people there, they go, yeah, they're nannied, they don't let us do things. They regulate the food or they have the DB checkpoints, but I don't know, they kind of accept it. Interesting.

01:25:50 Speaker_05
There's probably a trade-off if it doesn't get out of line. Sure. You don't want people driving drunk. If you just had DUI checkpoints everywhere- And they all drink. They're all drunk. Yeah. That's the difference.

01:26:01 Speaker_05
But if you had those DUI checkpoints all over the place and people just accept it as a part of life, how much of DUIs would drop? A ton. A ton. But I still hate the idea of it because I'm an American and we're Americans.

01:26:13 Speaker_05
Well, especially if you're not, here's the thing, like you can piss or blow hot for like a drink and a half, right?

01:26:22 Speaker_07
What's the tolerance? I've gotten in more accidents, car accidents, sober than I did drunk. I drove drunk for many years, never hurt anyone. I got in an accident today, completely sober, rushing to get here. Was it your fault though? Yeah, it was.

01:26:35 Speaker_07
I kind of crossed into a lane I shouldn't have. But it was just tires. It was a quick thing. It was a lovely man. Everybody was fine. And he'll sue me later. I'll sue him back. You know what? Nothing matters. Everyone's fine. That's the thing about America.

01:26:48 Speaker_07
It doesn't matter. You can just sue people, and they'll sue you back, and then lawyers figure it out. Bro, if you go to court in those sunglasses, you're gonna lose. I may lose.

01:26:57 Speaker_05
Doesn't matter. I'll just make more money. Where'd you get these?

01:27:00 Speaker_07
I got them at Louis Vuitton.

01:27:01 Speaker_05
These are fucking great. They're sick. I figured I'd shop with a good... Tell me if I can pull these off. Absolutely. You did it. What do you think?

01:27:09 Speaker_07
You should have endorsed Trump in those. They are sick. They're sick. Austin, shout out to The Domain. Can you send me a link? They're great.

01:27:22 Speaker_05
Send me a link before I forget. Send him a link. I'm gonna get a pair of those.

01:27:27 Speaker_07
How do you, so you think it, does anyone concede tonight? Does anyone have a victory speech? No, I think it takes days. North Carolina's the first to call, they say.

01:27:35 Speaker_05
What was the longest one, was the dangling Chads one?

01:27:38 Speaker_07
Yeah, that was two months. It was hilarious. SNL was doing really funny stuff. That was when Will Ferrell was Bush.

01:27:44 Speaker_05
Did you hear what happened with SNL with her? SNL violated him equal time. So they have to run ads for him now. That is really funny how to run like some 90-second ad is that true find out that's true. Is it true? Yeah, I read it on Twitter, but you know

01:28:02 Speaker_05
Could be some Chinese bot planting stuff in my feed, so I say stupid things. I wonder if they're watching our election, China. He's watching. Like this, like, ah, imagine voting. Right. Boom.

01:28:14 Speaker_05
Imagine you just let these fucking dumbasses pick who gets to fucking run the military. I want to go there so bad. Have you ever gone there? No. No. I went to Taiwan once, but it was a stopover on the way to Thailand. Do you like the idea of China?

01:28:28 Speaker_07
Like, I don't mean do you like the idea of China, but like visiting it.

01:28:30 Speaker_05
Yeah, I would love to visit. It's fascinating, right? I would love to see the Great Wall. Well, you're into that. Ancient cultures. And I would love to go to Mongolia. Elk hunting in Mongolia is a big thing. There's a lot of elk hunters go to Mongolia.

01:28:45 Speaker_05
Mongolia has a large elk population, and a lot of people aren't voting. What is this? Someone's in trouble here, right? Well, not quite. In a statement to Hollywood Reporter, FCC reportedly claimed that Brett

01:28:56 Speaker_05
that brendan statement does not reflect their views on the appearance of who's brendan i think i was tweeting goods at he's one of the five members of the fcc okay is that the agency and they had not made any determination regarding political programming rules nor have we received a complaint from any interested parties here's my take on it you can do a sketch on saturday night live if that's promoting a candidate

01:29:25 Speaker_05
You have to have equal time like why did they have to do that? But we don't why is that? Like if I just governed by the FCC, right? He's that yeah think about that if I just decided you know what? I don't want to interview Kamala.

01:29:36 Speaker_05
I only want to hear one side of the story Yeah, you know, I don't want to hear Tim Walz. I only want to hear JD Vance if I just decided to do that I I could do that, which is kind of weird if it's the number one podcast on earth.

01:29:48 Speaker_05
Why am I even allowed to do that?

01:29:51 Speaker_07
Because you're not on government regulated airwaves.

01:29:55 Speaker_05
That's my point. Why? We don't want that.

01:29:59 Speaker_07
Let's not ask why. We don't want them coming in.

01:30:02 Speaker_05
Well, they shouldn't be doing anywhere. They shouldn't be anywhere.

01:30:07 Speaker_07
I'm more for that.

01:30:08 Speaker_05
Here's the thing coming into this space. Why is it okay to do? Why is it okay to regulate in that regard? But you're not regulating the percentage of positive versus negative news stories.

01:30:19 Speaker_07
Like you're choosing. Sure. Choosing. I always thought the regulation was just like no tits until 9pm.

01:30:26 Speaker_05
But it's like the rules of equal airtime.

01:30:29 Speaker_07
Remember when Sipowicz showed his ass on NYPD Blue? Like that was a big deal.

01:30:32 Speaker_05
That was a big deal.

01:30:33 Speaker_07
That was a big deal. Dennis Franz. Like I thought it was that. Did they say bullshit once too? That was a big deal? That was a big deal. I didn't realize it was like it was equal time.

01:30:43 Speaker_05
But I mean that makes a lot of sense. Well I think Stan Hope had an issue with that when he was fake running for president. Oh. Because Stan Hope said, I'm going to have to stop doing shows because shows almost count as like a campaign speech.

01:30:55 Speaker_05
And you have to offer the opposing side equal time or something along those lines. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, like I think there's laws in- we should call them. Call them. Let's call them right now. Call Stan Hope. That's crazy. Yeah. That's interesting.

01:31:10 Speaker_05
All right, let's see. Let's see what he has to say. Because he actually... Oh, shit. Stan Hope, what are you doing? He... Oh, he's got a different number. Hold on a second. Stan Hope. Call Stan Hope, bat phone. That's the real one. He's got a bat phone.

01:31:33 Speaker_05
I love a good bat phone. He's probably drinking, staring at the TV right now, yelling things, smoking cigarettes. Come on, Douglas. Fuck.

01:31:51 Speaker_07
My call back. I'll text him. But that's interesting, because there are all these rules that we're kind of, you know, somewhat familiar with that govern the whole thing.

01:32:00 Speaker_05
Yeah.

01:32:00 Speaker_07
That you're allowed to do this.

01:32:02 Speaker_05
Douglas, I'm live on the air with Tim Dillon. Call me as soon as you see this. I have a question about when you ran for president.

01:32:12 Speaker_07
Jamie, what about the exit polls? Is there an exit poll?

01:32:16 Speaker_04
Are you anxiety ridden?

01:32:22 Speaker_05
No, I don't think so. Are you worried at all about this? I mean about the election, not in general. Not really.

01:32:27 Speaker_07
I have more anxiety about other things in the election. What's the big... Well, me is more... We all Google weird diseases and shit.

01:32:33 Speaker_06
Yeah, I don't do that.

01:32:34 Speaker_07
You know? Well, I mean... Stay healthy.

01:32:37 Speaker_06
Come on, Tim. Let me get you healthy.

01:32:38 Speaker_07
It has nothing to do with that. Weird diseases attack healthy people all the time. Oh, you mean like Ebola type stuff? Well, the stuff that you... People just get stuff. Oh. Nobody can do sit-ups so a brain tumor doesn't happen. You might be able to.

01:32:49 Speaker_07
No, you can't. I think I'm going to pull it off. You think so, and that makes you feel good, but that's great.

01:32:53 Speaker_03
I feel great.

01:32:54 Speaker_07
That's great.

01:32:55 Speaker_05
You want to live for 300 years? For what? I'm enjoying myself.

01:33:00 Speaker_07
No, I'm enjoying myself too, but you want to live through the Jake Paul administration? Dude, I'm going to be his VP. It's 82 degrees in New York City.

01:33:06 Speaker_05
Me and Jake Paul running shit.

01:33:08 Speaker_07
It's 82 degrees in New York City right now. I don't know, it matters who wins the election.

01:33:14 Speaker_05
You know what's worse than 82 degrees? Yeah. Minus 82 degrees. Everybody's scared of global warming. Listen, you don't want the fucking ice age. Nobody wants the ice age.

01:33:24 Speaker_05
Yeah, but these fucking eggheads want to spray shit in the sky to protect us from the sun's rays. Well, nobody wants that, but it just feels like eventually the planet will expel us.

01:33:33 Speaker_07
You don't think so? No.

01:33:35 Speaker_05
You don't think the planet will get rid of us? The only thing that's going to happen to us, look, the planet could fuck us up if the planet hits us with, the big one that could get us for sure. Oh, I'm on do not disturb. Hold on a second here.

01:33:46 Speaker_05
The big one that could get us for sure is an asteroid. Yeah, or super volcano either one of those could really really fuck us up.

01:33:53 Speaker_05
Yeah, those are real and those happen all the fucking time So that that's that's our number one problem is a natural disaster a supernova in a nearby galaxy would kill us Any sort of like real?

01:34:07 Speaker_05
Blast from the Sun would wipe out all our communication system in our grid There's there's things that have definitely happened in the past that if they happen today, we'd be fucked. Um But I think our biggest threat is us.

01:34:17 Speaker_05
I think our biggest threat is these crazy motherfuckers that are making all sorts of money off of war, and they keep pushing these agendas in these countries, and they're pushing international conflict that we're all involved in. Absolutely.

01:34:30 Speaker_05
And it's nuts, and I don't think it's going to last much longer. I think that's where they're getting hyper-focused on getting things done right now. I don't think you're going to be able to do this when you have sentient artificial intelligence.

01:34:40 Speaker_05
I think that is the end of all that. That's the end of all this global thermonuclear war. That shit's all going to go away.

01:34:47 Speaker_05
I think what they're doing right now is this mad dash to control as much resources and power and money as possible before the entire fucking world changes and you have robot aliens living amongst us.

01:35:00 Speaker_05
Elon said yesterday that he thinks that, what year did he say? How many years? 20 years from now? There'll be more robots in Earth than there will people, or in America.

01:35:10 Speaker_07
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:35:11 Speaker_05
More robots than people. In 20 years? What was the year? What was the timeline he gave us? 10 to 20 years, there will be more robots, like Tesla robots, these robots he's making.

01:35:22 Speaker_05
I said, and I was like, imagine if you just robot bodyguards, you're walking down the street, you got two Terminators with you. Is this good though? Him doing all the robot, like let's bring all the- It's better than a lot of other people doing it.

01:35:33 Speaker_05
He's moral and ethical about these He's one of the first people to sound the alarm about artificial intelligence. That's good.

01:35:39 Speaker_05
That's important He was like you're you're you don't you're gonna make our successor like in these fucking people are just running towards this cliff We got a merge right well he believes now because he's running his own AI the large language model that they use for Twitter grok and he's got a he's got another startup is involved with with Nvidia like there's he's

01:36:00 Speaker_05
I think he feels like, he was an early investor in open AI, and I think he's suing them right now, because it's not open AI anymore. Now it's a private company. The whole situation with whether or not they've achieved artificial sentience came up.

01:36:17 Speaker_05
Remember when they kicked out Sam Altman for a little bit, and they brought him right back in? Everyone was like, what the fuck are you doing? I don't know what was going on there, what explanation. He's worried that there's a race going on.

01:36:29 Speaker_05
If the wrong people win that race, we're fucked. It's terrifying. We're fucked.

01:36:33 Speaker_05
If China wins that race, and China apparently, whether it's open AI or one of these companies, there was some sort of a leak or some sort of a break-in where they believe that someone had access to their information.

01:36:48 Speaker_05
See if you can find what that is, whether it's China that they think It's scary to imagine the wrong people having that power. Exactly.

01:36:58 Speaker_07
Or any group of people having any group of people.

01:37:01 Speaker_05
Not just the wrong people, because the right people can fuck up. And also, it's absolute power. Hackers stole open AI secrets, raising fears that China could too.

01:37:11 Speaker_05
Security Beach at the maker of chat GBT last year revealed internal discussions among researchers and other employees But not the code behind open AI systems.

01:37:20 Speaker_05
Okay, so they didn't get the code, but they got internal discussions But those are internal discussions may have had Clues as to like what direction the technology is headed and maybe solve some puzzles that they didn't know yet Without you know, and then you could have who knows if that's all they got because there was speculation that they got other things and

01:37:42 Speaker_05
China's done a wonderful job of infiltrating stuff. One of the things that Mike Baker pointed out is that there's a military facility that is in I think Wyoming and all around the area, the cell phone towers were all sold to America by the Chinese.

01:38:01 Speaker_05
They just make deals.

01:38:03 Speaker_07
They're like, we'll sell you cheaper stuff. There was a surveillance apparatus built in America that the Chinese backed to order. Now they are using some of it.

01:38:13 Speaker_05
Let me tell you what happened in Austin. Let me tell you what happened in Austin at Formula One. My buddy Bobby owns that racetrack, so I was there with him and he shows me this picture. He says, you know what this is? I go, what is it?

01:38:24 Speaker_05
And he goes, someone attached a device to our broadband, to our Wi-Fi, where it was siphoning up people's data. Like someone had attached, they found it and they got it and they called whoever it is, Homeland Security or whatever the fuck it is.

01:38:39 Speaker_05
So if you go to like a big event and you're using the open Wi-Fi, There's a real chance that someone has set up a thing where they're going to siphon up all that data and who knows what the fuck they're going to use it for.

01:38:52 Speaker_05
Whether they're getting your passwords to your credit card account or whether they're getting this or that or passwords to social media sites.

01:38:59 Speaker_05
Emails whatever the fuck they're getting but if you're just willy-nilly Using a VPN or not using a VPN and going and getting on Wi-Fi in some place like you You run the real risk of actually being compromised. Yeah, and like what are they getting?

01:39:13 Speaker_05
Like what are they doing with all that stuff? I don't know but if you sell if you're a hostile government and you sell cell phone towers to your enemy. Yeah, no, it's crazy.

01:39:26 Speaker_05
And you just got these dudes who are just contractors who are working for the government. They're not like the most sophisticated of investigative reporters. It's just a guy who has a job. He has to buy a certain amount of these cell phone towers.

01:39:37 Speaker_05
China will sell them to us for this, while we can buy from these other companies for a lot more. Let's just get it from China.

01:39:45 Speaker_05
And next thing you know they can drop in on any kind of information that they who knows there could be a third-party access that no one is available No one is aware of until they activate it.

01:39:55 Speaker_05
Yeah, they could just decide to shut all these things down They might have a kill switch in them, but you're buying like that's why they banned Huawei they banned Huawei because they found compromises in their networks and

01:40:06 Speaker_05
Yeah, and then they they knew that the company was aligned with the Chinese government. They're like, hey, you got to get out of here They're very good at it.

01:40:13 Speaker_07
It's corporate espionage. They're incredibly good at it. They've been good at it for decades and they're the best at it But we do it too.

01:40:19 Speaker_05
Yeah, that's the thing like Trump was right like we do it, too What did Huawei get pop for Jamie? Because I was mad because this is back when I was using Android and I wanted a Huawei phone because why should just give it to them?

01:40:31 Speaker_06
They made the best phone.

01:40:32 Speaker_07
Let's just give it to them and what meaning like You know, it's like all this data they're trying to just give it to them. What are they going to do with it?

01:40:41 Speaker_05
Well, I mean, they're stealing. They're stealing stuff. Let's just give them the patents. They've been banned or restricted in multiple countries due to the security concerns. Huawei was added to the U.S.

01:40:51 Speaker_05
Export Administration's regulations entity list, which made it harder for the company to obtain parts from U.S. suppliers. In 2022, the U.S. banned the sale and import of new Huawei communications equipment due to national security concerns.

01:41:03 Speaker_05
So what were the concerns, though?

01:41:05 Speaker_07
They have to report back to like Tick-tock is a problem, but it makes so much money that we'll we'll just constantly we make money from tick-tock, too, right?

01:41:15 Speaker_07
No, of course But that's the thing that China realizes that if you commit if Americans make money, they're never gonna care Some lady was heckling me at a show here.

01:41:23 Speaker_05
Yeah, she said she worked from tick for tick-tock. Oh, yeah. Oh It was hilarious. The U.S. banned the sale and import of new communications equipment from five Chinese companies, including Huawei and ZTE, amid concerns over national security.

01:41:36 Speaker_05
What did they do, though? I think there was something to do with routers. Huawei and others have previously denied supplying data to the Chinese government.

01:41:48 Speaker_05
There was something about Wi-Fi routers and different things that they thought could be spied upon. 5G networks.

01:41:57 Speaker_04
And you have for 5G in other countries?

01:42:00 Speaker_05
I don't know, but they used to make dope, well, they probably still do. They made dope phones. There was this Porsche design collaborated with Huawei and made like the best cell phone and I was trying to buy it.

01:42:10 Speaker_05
And then I found out you can't buy it in America anymore. I was like, what? And that's when I started looking into it. So that's like 2021 or something like that. Whenever it was, what was the year the ban was put in place?

01:42:20 Speaker_04
They have a sweet one I wanted to get right now. It's a trifold.

01:42:23 Speaker_05
Yeah, it's badass. That's what I'm saying.

01:42:25 Speaker_04
Just get it. We're getting spoon-fed.

01:42:27 Speaker_05
You just can't use it.

01:42:28 Speaker_04
Why? You can use it on Wi-Fi here, but you couldn't connect it to a... It won't do all the stuff.

01:42:33 Speaker_05
It doesn't even use Google. they don't use the Android operating system because they got banned. I want a Chinese phone. Do you know that? Like China got, they stopped using that because Huawei got banned from Google. Find out if that's true.

01:42:47 Speaker_05
Huawei, they weren't allowed to use the Android operating system anymore either. Isn't there a version of TikTok that is different in China?

01:42:54 Speaker_04
Yes, yes. Yeah, very different. Oh wait, it says it still runs Android 10 but doesn't support Google apps and services. Right. Why did they do that?

01:43:04 Speaker_05
Why did they ban them from Google Apps and Services? There must have been some sneaky shit they had in the past, too. Of course. Yeah. It's just hilarious. But there's other Chinese companies. Like One makes great phones. Yeah.

01:43:15 Speaker_05
I believe that's a Chinese company. You know, there's like, there's a bunch of phony man.

01:43:20 Speaker_07
We're just in this globalized world now where you just this is inevitable.

01:43:24 Speaker_05
Well, we have to try to globalize world where China is making some things better than we are. Yes. Same reason. Yeah. Spying concerns.

01:43:30 Speaker_07
You just have to keep you stay, stay as vigilant as you can to try to prevent this from happening. But they're very good at it. And it seems like that's not going to stop. Well, China's making something.

01:43:38 Speaker_07
I'm worried about all kinds of things that they're doing. They're buying up the real estate all over America. They own large swaths of some of our biggest cities. I mean, it's like they're aggressive on a few fronts.

01:43:50 Speaker_05
It's kind of crazy they're allowed to buy land around military bases. It's unreal. That's unreal. Imagine trying to pull that off in China.

01:43:58 Speaker_05
And that's the difference between having a guy who's been in power for fucking decades, really knows how to run the country, versus some person who got elected in a popularity contest.

01:44:05 Speaker_07
It's also a difference of when people see the country as it going at a business sale.

01:44:13 Speaker_07
Farms selling everything out from under everybody and The way people are treating America right now is just a fucking throw a sign on it Make your best offer come in and loot Isn't it funny that if you said you have to be American to buy American property people would be up in arms

01:44:32 Speaker_07
They'd be up in arms and they'd say it's racist and the real estate lobby would come out and go it's racist because they want that Russian because they want that fucking oligarch dollar You're the one that told me first about these apartment buildings in New York City.

01:44:45 Speaker_07
They're yeah, they're like ghost cities This is another thing we all go and I just read these things they go. Look at these Chinese ghost cities They built all these cities and nobody lives in them and I go

01:44:54 Speaker_07
If you go to any of these buildings by Central Park, there's like 20% of it occupied, 30% of it.

01:45:01 Speaker_07
70% of it is straight up money laundering, where it's people that have purchased multiple apartments under the name of an LLC, a limited liability corporation. And by the way, they've got a lot of them. There's not just one.

01:45:13 Speaker_07
There's so many of them, shell corpse, that you can barely find who owns it. And it causes the price of everything to go up. And they're not living in the city. They're not contributing. They're not tipping at restaurants.

01:45:24 Speaker_07
They're not buying tickets to Yankee games. They're doing it to move their money out of Russia, China, the United Arab Emirates, Brazil, India, wherever. They're stashing it in these buildings.

01:45:33 Speaker_07
And it's causing the prices of all of the real estate around it to skyrocket.

01:45:40 Speaker_05
Yeah, the real estate in New York is

01:45:42 Speaker_07
What LA it's it's it's even in you know cities like Austin obviously there's not as much of that But you know, but there are foreign buyers in this market 100 pushed it out everywhere everywhere everywhere Sold for a whopping two.

01:45:56 Speaker_05
Oh my god.

01:45:57 Speaker_05
Yeah, this apartment sold for 238 million dollars the highest recorded price for a residential property billionaires rose a home to eight ultra luxury skyscrapers each equipped with luxurious amenities ranging from cinema rooms to saunas and

01:46:11 Speaker_07
Look at that, the average sale price $9.8 million and that's in that part of the city. That is the part of the city that is the favorite of foreign money.

01:46:21 Speaker_05
Look what it says here. As of 2022, there are 772 unpurchased units.

01:46:26 Speaker_07
Because they've built these buildings specifically for money laundering. Wow.

01:46:31 Speaker_07
This is not built for regular rich people most regular wealthy people cannot afford to live in a 50 million dollar apartment or in 238 or 238 million dollar apartment so the whole thing is incredibly You know, it's completely manipulated.

01:46:50 Speaker_07
So it's not a real market that has anything to do with supply and demand. It's artificially manipulated by a lot of wealthy people. And then the real estate lobby loves it. They want it. And the developers like it. And so those big money people love it.

01:47:05 Speaker_07
How's the money laundering part of it work?

01:47:08 Speaker_07
Because they take money out of whatever country and then they stash it in America in real estate so they'll come in and buy something cash under an LLC and That however much money that would have been in their home country because some of those countries are volatile And the governments of those countries could decide.

01:47:28 Speaker_07
Okay, you will have money. It's 20% of it's now ours, right? Here's the new tax I mean, there's people that try to do it here. They propose wealth taxes, things like that, all the time.

01:47:39 Speaker_07
Some of them make some sense, some of them are ludicrous, but those people are a bit paranoid.

01:47:46 Speaker_07
There's also political instability in a lot of those countries, and then there's people that just don't like taxes, and there's people that have made money narco-trafficking, human trafficking, doing all kinds of things, right?

01:47:58 Speaker_07
So there's people that go, I have a lot of illicit Capital that needs to go to real estate in London. There's an area in London called Mayfair.

01:48:05 Speaker_07
It's all Russian oligarchs There's areas, you know, and London is even more than New York London is the Mo is the home for international money launderer It's the shadiest city in the world is really cool. It's a lot of fun It really is.

01:48:20 Speaker_07
I mean, that's the thing about these people.

01:48:22 Speaker_07
They are fun And London is a financial capital halfway between New York and Asia you have the biggest money in the world in London because historically it has been you know, New York's amazing in New York's the greatest city in the world in the sense that

01:48:39 Speaker_07
I think it's the most representative but London has always been the home of like international finance since I mean you know I mean we're talking about you know it goes like this is a part of London called the City of London is a small little part of it and it's an area called Knightsbridge and that's where they have like one Hyde Park and one Hyde Park is this building with like

01:48:59 Speaker_07
150 million dollar apartments and all these Saudi kids are driving like Bugattis and Lamborghinis there and everything and if Harrods is there the famous store and it's just a signal to the ultra wealthy This is where you come you want your kids to be raised as you know British gentlemen and learn the ways of but it's a home of like international finance and it's been that's a cool place, but

01:49:22 Speaker_07
I don't know how you unwind all of this.

01:49:24 Speaker_05
You don't.

01:49:25 Speaker_07
You don't really unwind it.

01:49:26 Speaker_05
Also, most people don't understand it. They don't understand. Who's going to run it? Where's all the money going to go?

01:49:31 Speaker_07
It's hard to fight these people because that's the problem. It's like everyone kind of wants to be them and then the people that don't want to be them, they will kill you. That's the problem. They will blackmail you.

01:49:43 Speaker_07
And if that doesn't work, they will kill you. This is the thing, because they are the top of the food chain. And when you are at the top of the food chain, you're not going to give that power up without a tremendous fight.

01:49:56 Speaker_07
And I think that's really where a lot of it comes down to is they're preserving their position on the top of the hierarchy.

01:50:03 Speaker_05
Imagine if the United States made a law where you couldn't buy real estate unless you're an American citizen. New York City apartment buildings would, it would be a bloodbath.

01:50:14 Speaker_07
But by the way, not only would it be a bloodbath there, it would be a bloodbath everywhere. And then people would look at their 401ks and go, all this shit I'm invested in is tanked.

01:50:25 Speaker_07
That's the other problem, because all of the stuff they're invested in is based on a lot of investments being made by those companies like BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street and Citadel or Goldman.

01:50:39 Speaker_05
So it's just- One of the creepiest things they're doing is buying residential homes and leasing them to people.

01:50:44 Speaker_07
Yeah, because they don't want people to own their homes. They don't want people to have the power of homeownership or the dignity of homeownership. Is that what it is?

01:50:51 Speaker_05
Or is it profitable to buy homes and lease them? It's profitable because they... That's why they're doing it. Do you really think there's some insidious thing, like they don't want people to have homes? Like, really?

01:51:02 Speaker_07
Yes, because I think they go that... I think they look at it and say, Americans will be happy renting. I mean, that's the famous article. By 2030, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. But that's just those WF dorks.

01:51:15 Speaker_07
Yeah, but those WF dorks are Incredibly powerful amongst a crew of people They all get together they all these conferences whether they meet and it's again It's not like always nefarious, but they go to like Davos or Bilderberg or whatever and this idea that

01:51:33 Speaker_07
That's the thing people talk about. Why should you preserve culture? Is it racist to preserve culture? And I don't mean the specific culture of any one race, but this idea that you want to preserve culture.

01:51:44 Speaker_07
And people go, well, why is it good to preserve traditional culture? Culture and because there will always be a culture. So if it's not Italian culture Irish culture Mexican culture Black culture, whatever it is.

01:51:57 Speaker_07
It's going to be soulless global corporate culture. That's why every hotel looks the same That's why every fucking apartment looks the same because the same people are choosing the same fucking ten you know shades of marble and shades of wood and

01:52:11 Speaker_07
And they're putting up all of these different condos and all these office buildings. That's why all these cities are starting to look the same. Everything looks like a weird Airbnb. It looks like they 3D printed everything.

01:52:21 Speaker_07
That's why all these restaurants are starting to look the same. Because it's soulless corporate culture. Americans, just like people all over the world, have less and less financial power. And more and more of it is being consolidated on the higher end.

01:52:36 Speaker_07
And they're going to say you're going to rent your house. You're going to take Ubers everywhere. You don't need to own a car. You're going to take whatever vaccine we think is good.

01:52:44 Speaker_07
You'll drive your car on Thursday or you'll be able to Uber on Thursdays because of climate. You're not going to be able to Uber whenever you want or you won't be able to use this amount of water or this amount of heat or this amount of energy.

01:52:54 Speaker_07
And all of this are going to be edicts. Delivered to you from the government, but also by these corporate oligarchs It just own everything and it's gonna be a very bland and soulless world.

01:53:07 Speaker_07
It'll be Times Square It'll be Times Square what Times Square used to be but somehow worse versus what Times Square is a giant Applebee's now That's right. It's a giant Applebee's and it'll be that serene cold corporate

01:53:20 Speaker_07
feeling that you get now when you walk into like a st. Regis and all these hotels are all owned by Marriott the Ritz or any of these hotels you walk into these hotels and it's all gray

01:53:30 Speaker_07
It's all gray, and it all looks like a conference room, and everything, nothing's loud, and hello, and how are you, and no one can do anything.

01:53:38 Speaker_07
Oh, we're sorry about, yeah, we're not able to do that, we don't have the, we can't do that, and everybody's rule following, everybody's cameras trained on everybody, so God forbid somebody does anything, like you try to tip people sometimes, they go, thank you, I can't, I mean, we're not allowed to.

01:53:53 Speaker_07
And you're just loot because everybody's terrified of losing their job. Everybody's terrified of upsetting these people. Everybody's on camera. And, you know, it's like it sucks. The whole thing is turning into that.

01:54:05 Speaker_07
And I think as much as you know, there's a lot of conspiracies about the World Economic Forum and all that stuff. Some of them are probably based in reality. Some of them are just crackpots.

01:54:14 Speaker_07
But one thing that I think is very real is all of those people, those organizations, They exist to create a consensus amongst the wealthiest and powerful people that it is better to favor this set of policies over that one.

01:54:29 Speaker_07
And all of those policies inevitably take power and ownership away from people. And reappropriate that and redistribute it to wealthier people, the government, and big corporations.

01:54:43 Speaker_05
Well said. That's a great way to put it. And those people, you don't know anybody like that. You don't know anybody like Lindsey Graham. So you don't know the game they're playing. Well, speak for yourself. I have a lot of friends.

01:54:53 Speaker_07
And I'll be taking Kurt very well. No, you don't. You're not in that group. You meet the kids of them sometimes and they all believe they're doing the right thing. They think it's great.

01:55:05 Speaker_07
I was in an environment where I met some of these Harvard kids and Yale kids and they're all nice people. They're good people. They're fun people. But again, they just they have these beliefs. They're in a cult.

01:55:18 Speaker_07
They're drilled into them since they're young. And this is the problem with the Democratic Party. It's maybe why they lose this election. Maybe they won't. Maybe they will. It's condescension. And they're condescending and they're dismissive of people.

01:55:33 Speaker_07
And it's a kind of elitism that seeks to convince you that it is for your own good. They are in charge.

01:55:40 Speaker_05
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they're your mama. They're your dad.

01:55:43 Speaker_05
They know better than you Yeah, and that's the like the thing when they talk about misinformation Disinformation don't you know, you know the difference right if you know the difference, why do you assume other people won't know it? That's right.

01:55:54 Speaker_05
Like you want to say that other people are stupid They're not capable of making these decisions or discerning what's true and what's false by themselves So you want to eliminate anything that you disagree with and just call it misinformation?

01:56:06 Speaker_07
Yeah, and that not only that but it's to demonize people the demonization of podcast a demonization of people that you know are willing to have conversations with people they disagree with it's all done to discredit Anything that runs counter to that narrative.

01:56:24 Speaker_07
It's the same reason They don't want people to have social engagements that have any value. Or a lot of times the reason that if somebody says something mildly pro-family, they flip the fuck out.

01:56:37 Speaker_07
Because they don't want people to have a strong community with a family or a social arrangement that's fulfilling to them where they aren't dependent on not only services from the government, but also they're not dependent on the government to tell them what

01:56:55 Speaker_07
Is valuable and meaningful in life. Right.

01:56:57 Speaker_07
And if the government tells you that it is meaningful and valuable in life to support the things that they support and you internalize that then you're just going to be led around by people and you'll be doing the things they want you to do.

01:57:10 Speaker_07
And that's why they get very threatened when people say things that are even mildly suggest that people are happy having children or whatever the case may be. They flip out and they go, well, you can't tell me what to do.

01:57:22 Speaker_07
And it's like, nobody's telling you what to do, but the idea that. You know people having families is controversial or saying that it's a fulfilling way to live or You know to me.

01:57:35 Speaker_07
It's very strange when people kind of prey on your loneliness and they prey on your Vulnerability to shove a bunch of stuff down your throat that would be harder to sell you if you had a family and or a business Right or a house or a stake in your community.

01:57:54 Speaker_07
I don't think they want you to have a stake in any of those things

01:57:57 Speaker_05
Right. And so, logically, as they achieve more power, they will have to get people to go along with these things. That's right. And the way they do that is through forming these narratives.

01:58:10 Speaker_05
Now, the counter to these narratives is the popularity of podcasts. Because the narratives, like if they only had the mainstream media, they would be so much further ahead. That's right.

01:58:19 Speaker_05
Imagine if there was never anything on the internet other than websites and email. Nobody ever figured out social media.

01:58:28 Speaker_07
Yeah, so nobody ever figured out like we have boots on the ground in the Ukraine right now I'm not even kidding. We probably if they was just the mainstream media we would have boots on the ground in the Ukraine currently a thousand percent

01:58:44 Speaker_07
They're I'm telling you there's I'm as sure of anything as that fact Tell me it wasn't one of the wildest things the campaign when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris and the left was like, yeah Well, it proves it proves that it is now a raw power grab and that no one cares about anything right and you know, I've seen I've lived long enough now to see the left and

01:59:09 Speaker_07
admonish the CIA and the FBI and now cheerlead for the CIA and the FBI. I mean, you know, in 2003, you would you would you would see seething op eds about the power of

01:59:25 Speaker_07
Dick Cheney, Halliburton, the military, the defense contractors, Iraq, the quagmire. You know, remember that word that no one uses anymore to describe a foreign entanglement?

01:59:40 Speaker_07
All of those people that supported the Iraq war all reinvented themselves as Democrats and now have jobs at MSNBC. Some of them have jobs in the Biden administration. Some of them have jobs in center right or center left think tanks in Washington, D.C.

01:59:55 Speaker_07
And all of those people, they cared. Dick Cheney has a lot more in common with a lot of the people that are running the Democratic Party, obviously, than he does with their voters. Their voters loathe Dick Cheney.

02:00:09 Speaker_07
The people who run that party don't hate him as much as you'd think.

02:00:14 Speaker_05
Yeah. That's a scary thought. Very. Did you see Liz Cheney on The View and Whoopi Goldberg? What was she saying? She should be the head of the CIA? Yeah. No, I mean, it's hilarious. Can you imagine? She said something crazy like that. Yeah.

02:00:30 Speaker_05
Like, what are you doing? I thought you guys didn't like that stuff. I thought you guys were the anti-Iraq war people. I thought you guys were the anti-weapons of mass destruction people. Liz Cheney for Kamala Harris' attorney general. Attorney general.

02:00:45 Speaker_05
Wow. Whoopi Goldberg begs for it. That's what it is.

02:00:47 Speaker_07
Well, this is a weaponization of the justice system.

02:00:49 Speaker_05
It's crazy. The whole thing is so weird to see people abandon what it used to be to be a leftist. It used to be uncomfortable discussions are good. It's good to be able to have communication with people that you disagree with. Free speech is imperative.

02:01:05 Speaker_05
It used to be that education should be objective and it's very important and you counter bad ideas with good ideas.

02:01:12 Speaker_07
Well, it just became untenable, I think. I think leftism was driven out. of the sphere.

02:01:18 Speaker_05
Well, when so far left, it became a different thing.

02:01:22 Speaker_07
Yeah, but it became left in a way that wasn't about workers' rights or economic justice. It became left in a way about like aesthetic identity politics that prevented any discussions about CEO pay or health care or anything like that.

02:01:36 Speaker_07
It just became and I think they're really enthusiastic people about that ideology. Things are pretty good.

02:01:42 Speaker_07
Yeah, I think there's a lot of people where things are good enough in their lives to worry about whether we have a trans Batman 100% yeah, and I think that's the thing I think a lot of the enthusiastic proponents of that stuff believe things are great, and they're only getting better Yeah, and to sell a campaign and listen she may win.

02:01:59 Speaker_07
It's early in the day, but to sell a campaign on the word joy Is is is utterly insane. It's also kind of a revenge of the nerds thing too.

02:02:09 Speaker_05
Yeah, because it's a complete polar shift of Identity hierarchies.

02:02:14 Speaker_05
Yeah, you know the people that were like the weirdos and the freaks the trans people and the you know They'll all of a sudden those people are at the top of this hierarchy of oppression sure and celebrated above all Yeah, but it's also it used to be those are the ones who cast out of society but it's also like this this idea that you need to keep

02:02:34 Speaker_07
identifying ways to divide people right and there's no other there's no better way to do it than to claim that Everybody threatens everyone else.

02:02:46 Speaker_05
I agree with you. But here's a question. Is this a natural thing? Is this like a natural thing that humans do when they find a vulnerability in a social system?

02:02:55 Speaker_05
They attach themselves to it whether it's white guys pretending to be black, you know a couple of those. Yeah, you know those kind of situations

02:03:01 Speaker_05
Like there's there seems to be people attach themselves to something and then they sort of subvert it But do you think it would have existed? Anyway, do you think that someone has a vested interest in keeping us divided and so that these these?

02:03:18 Speaker_05
Social issues like whatever it is that comes up like whether it's BLM right any any kind of social movement that creates disruption Yeah, do you think that those are engineered and those are injected into the system to make people have things to fight over?

02:03:33 Speaker_05
I think there's a balance.

02:03:35 Speaker_07
I think that there's organic riffs and fissures in society that allow certain sentiments to bubble to the surface, like BLM, like the war in Gaza and the problems and the protests that are happening there. But the minute that stuff happens,

02:03:55 Speaker_07
I believe people seize on the opportunity and exploit it and fund those things and bust people into those protests and exacerbate that moment because it is, I think, a defining, you know, when Rahm Emanuel said, never let a good crisis go to waste.

02:04:15 Speaker_07
You know what I mean? That's such a crazy thing to say out loud. When he said, never let a good crisis go to waste, they are telling you. It's like when Lindsey Graham says, I want that money. Give me that money.

02:04:27 Speaker_07
I don't want Putin having that money when they're saying it in front of your face.

02:04:33 Speaker_07
When Rahm Emanuel says never let a good crisis go to waste, the whole ethos of that statement is to seize on organic problems and exacerbate them and then inject whatever agenda you have so that you can then wrestle more power away from human beings.

02:04:55 Speaker_07
That's well said.

02:04:56 Speaker_07
It's like it's crazy to watch because when I grew up I grew up in the 90s it was a time of like Doc Martens and fucking people drinking fishbowl sized cappuccinos and fucking coffee houses and fucking everybody was weird and it was a there was a

02:05:13 Speaker_07
individualism in the 90s.

02:05:15 Speaker_07
Kurt Cobain and fucking people in Seattle killing themselves and making great music and rap and all this shit and flannel and you remember it and fucking but there was an individualism in the 90s that was kind of like I remember you know my parents saying me once

02:05:30 Speaker_07
Like a friend of mine did something stupid and they go, well, if you jumped off a bridge, are you going to do it? It's like, there was just this idea that you didn't have to go along with everybody else.

02:05:41 Speaker_07
Standing apart from the crowd made you unique and an individual and good. And it meant that you had value.

02:05:48 Speaker_05
Yeah. Nirvana killed hairbands because of that. Yeah. Hairbands became silly. Right. Right.

02:05:54 Speaker_07
There's no idea that I've seen attacked more than that. being a free thinking individual is coming under fire and has over the last few decades.

02:06:05 Speaker_07
Like I've never seen the coordinated attempt to make you think, not only do you have to agree with everyone that you're responsible for everybody, that what's good for you is good for them, or what's good for them is good for you.

02:06:18 Speaker_07
And that we're all in it together and all of these things. And none of it is from a place of like, Let's feed the poor. None of it's from a place of like, let's help. All of it's from a very weird, nefarious place of like, we move as a block.

02:06:34 Speaker_07
We are one consciousness. And again, not in the Bill Hicks good way, in the way of like, we're going to condemn the people we dislike, we're going to expel them and cast them out. And then we're going to reward the people who will come along with us.

02:06:46 Speaker_07
Because again, We are this, you know, blob of shit that is just picking people up as we go. But I miss those days of kind of being like, yeah, man, who cares? Like, you think one way, I think another way, and it's not the end of the world.

02:07:05 Speaker_05
Now it's the end of the world. There was less influences. You think about the influences, like, I grew up in the, I was in high school in the 80s, right? So in the 80s,

02:07:15 Speaker_05
What we had was whatever was on the radio, whatever was on MTV when that came out, it was like, oh my God, MTV. And what you saw on television at night, usually watching TV with your family after dinner or something.

02:07:29 Speaker_05
You have very little access to the rest of the world. And now you're inundated constantly, 24-7. And there's a bunch of people that you wish you were. A bunch of people that you wish you were. I wish I looked like her. I wish I was tall as him.

02:07:43 Speaker_05
I wish I had the money that she has. Oh, look at that car he's got. It's the same shit. And everybody gets locked into this, this fucking weird keeping up. Yeah, voyeurism, narcissism beyond.

02:07:55 Speaker_05
It's probably more like habitual narcissists today than probably ever before.

02:08:00 Speaker_07
How many people that cannot afford houses are watching people buy mansions on TV? There's 20 shows about, you know, people buying houses.

02:08:08 Speaker_07
Yeah, I mean, you know famous real estate channels on Instagram that are just showing you houses You could never fucking afford and in half of them suck Anyway, if you saw them in person just like the people on Instagram, but like this weird voyeuristic thing again it's part of the flattening of everybody with technology where people

02:08:27 Speaker_07
Individualism has been likened to being heartless or soulless or uncaring and that you are not invested in the welfare and well-being of others, which is not true, by the way. Thinking freely does not mean you don't care about people.

02:08:44 Speaker_07
It means you're not going to swallow narratives that the Defense Department has handed to MSNBC. Doesn't mean you want people to live in the street exactly, but this is you know people just don't like that idea We're just a collectivist mindset now.

02:09:00 Speaker_05
We're like people you you have to be on the same page with everybody well I think it's inevitable and I think it's moving us towards a very uncomfortable reality That most people are not willing to even like look at but we're becoming a different species.

02:09:16 Speaker_05
We're becoming a different thing That's interesting. I think that's true. Yeah. I mean, I think that's one of the side effects of plastics and all the hormonal effects that people are having because of this, all the phthalates in people's bloodstreams.

02:09:29 Speaker_05
I think it's an effect of staring at screens all the time, becoming accustomed to staring at screens, preferring interactions online to people in person, because they make you anxious. Well, that's what people, you know, that's such a great point.

02:09:42 Speaker_07
People now talk about all the time, like, why doesn't anything feel the same? Right. No city feels the way it did five years ago. And I think one of the reasons is because we live so much of our life now digitally.

02:09:57 Speaker_05
There's that, but then there's the veil of a controlled society that completely collapsed during COVID. That's right. The veil of there's someone who understands how the system works and they're running it efficiently. That's why the subway's on time.

02:10:11 Speaker_05
That's why the streets are clean. It's because someone's running it and they're doing a good job. And then all of a sudden something happens and these people tell you everything has to shut down for a year and a half in LA.

02:10:20 Speaker_05
And you're like, what are you talking about? Why are we poor now? Why is everybody broke? Why is it dangerous? Why are cars on fire? Why are they smashing into these stores and no one's doing anything about it? The veil got completely removed.

02:10:32 Speaker_05
So LA seems vulnerable now. When I go through LA, it seems vulnerable. It seems like a beaten kid. There's something about it.

02:10:42 Speaker_07
There was always a darkness there. Now, I spend so much less time there because there's just this foreboding hellish reality that just I don't know what it is, but it's like Everyone's on edge. It's a dissolving of an illusion.

02:10:58 Speaker_07
It's dissolving of an illusion.

02:11:00 Speaker_05
The illusion is a sophisticated Functional society that's also a place that think about this Los Angeles was built on the manufacturing reality

02:11:12 Speaker_07
Yes for a long time. Yes. Yeah, and the ability to do that now has been greatly diminished and the magic of the movies and this idea that you can fully Suspend disbelief and all these things.

02:11:27 Speaker_07
I think a lot of that is has had a real impact on that place because the Inability, you know, they used to be able to make a movie that would convince you about an event they would They would drive home a narrative through a movie.

02:11:44 Speaker_07
They've done this a million times Yeah, now by the time they do that. There's 10 documentaries on YouTube. Yeah, there's been a million podcast Yeah, so they've lost control and Hollywood was really this myth-making institution

02:11:58 Speaker_07
That, and it was all built on very, and listen, they made a lot of great stuff, a lot of movies we all love, but a lot of it was built on like the exploitation of women, of children, all these horrible things that have now been unearthed.

02:12:10 Speaker_07
Every documentary is crazy to watch now. It's like, remember that 90s show you watched? And you go, Jesus, no. And they're like, those kids were kept in a cage and fed like dogs. You're like, God damn it. Like, nothing you enjoy.

02:12:22 Speaker_07
Like the Nickelodeon stuff, it's bananas.

02:12:23 Speaker_05
It's crazy.

02:12:24 Speaker_07
It's bananas. You know? But it makes sense. It makes sense because you have vulnerable people without a lot. There's nobody who cares about people in that town.

02:12:35 Speaker_07
And the only people that have credibility in that town are people that have made other people a lot of money. And those are the people that were able to get away with it and do whatever the hell they wanted. So that town's just in deep trouble.

02:12:47 Speaker_03
Well, it's just dark.

02:12:48 Speaker_05
It's dark. It's darker now, also. And one of the things that happened during COVID was when you shut down production for a year and a half and then no one goes to the movies for a year and a half. Habit is broken. Habit's broken. Habit's broken.

02:13:03 Speaker_07
Date nights not go to the movies anymore. I was in Joker 2, which just came out. It's the worst film that has ever been made. I heard it was so bad. It's the worst film. It's actually not so bad. It's the worst film ever made. Why?

02:13:15 Speaker_05
Well, do you think they did it on purpose?

02:13:17 Speaker_07
No. I think what happened after the first Joker was there was a lot of talk like, ooh, this was loved by incels. This was loved by the wrong kinds of people and this sent the wrong kinds of male rage, nihilism, you know, all these think pieces.

02:13:31 Speaker_07
And then I think, what if we went the other way? And now they have Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga tap dancing to a point where it's insane.

02:13:40 Speaker_05
But is it possible that he didn't want to make a sequel? And then he said, all right, I'll make a sequel.

02:13:45 Speaker_07
No, I know Tarantino said that. I mean, it's a quarter billion they did that with. If that's true, it's the most immoral thing I've ever seen in my life. Or brilliant. Brilliant protest. I don't think it's a brilliant protest. Wouldn't it be fun, though?

02:13:59 Speaker_07
I don't know. It's a waste of everybody's time. Just make a good movie. You could have done it, you know, just get out the fuck, stop dancing.

02:14:06 Speaker_05
What do you think, what would motivate them to make a movie that's that far the other way?

02:14:10 Speaker_07
Because they want it, because it's hubris, number one. The idea that you could, that people love it so much they're going to accept it in any version of it.

02:14:20 Speaker_05
Do you think you would like it if it wasn't connected to the original Joker? No, it has no plot.

02:14:27 Speaker_07
It has no plot. We would sit on stage. We would sit there. Me and these other guys were all dressed in these fucking security outfits because we're working at the Arkham Asylum.

02:14:38 Speaker_07
And I would turn to one of them and we'd hear this crap and I'd go, what the fuck is this? And they go, this is going to bomb, man. This is the worst thing I've ever we would talk about at lunch. We go. What is the plot? Is there a plot? I don't know.

02:14:57 Speaker_07
I think he falls in love with her in the prison.

02:15:00 Speaker_05
Is it worth going to see because it's bad It's not even hate watchable. That's how terrible it is. But is it one of those things like? Showgirls no so bad. You could watch it.

02:15:10 Speaker_07
No because it's it's like

02:15:12 Speaker_07
You're sitting there and there's these people you know in the theater and they're all confused and I'm watching their reactions and they're all like staring and everything and like it starts like oh it's raining and it's Arkham Asylum and you're like okay cool

02:15:29 Speaker_07
And then there's a moment where Joaquin Phoenix just goes, for once in my life, I have someone who needs me. And then you just, and he starts, he just becomes a fucking musical.

02:15:45 Speaker_05
But hold on, let me back this up. Let me back this up. Don't you remember when Joaquin Phoenix went on Letterman and he had like this, he had some crazy fake persona? Like he did something where he pretended to lose his mind? Yes, a rapper or something.

02:16:02 Speaker_05
Right. What was he doing? I don't know, he was like- What did he do for a while, Jamie?

02:16:07 Speaker_07
Yeah, he did this.

02:16:07 Speaker_04
He played a character. This is better than Joker. He was gonna pursue a music career. This was 2009.

02:16:13 Speaker_02
You've got a nice beard going. Oh yeah, thank you. How is that, the beard? In my way. Well, is it comfortable? Is it itchy? Are you pleased with it?

02:16:25 Speaker_06
I'm okay with it, but now you're making me feel weird about it.

02:16:28 Speaker_02
I'm sorry.

02:16:28 Speaker_04
That's a long interview, bud.

02:16:29 Speaker_05
That's okay, man. Let him know, he was a wizard at interviewing.

02:16:32 Speaker_04
He was great.

02:16:33 Speaker_05
He was so good. He's the best, in my opinion, of those guys. Of course, thousand percent. He's just so good at...

02:16:42 Speaker_05
Now go back before that cuz that's what he's wrapping it up So but Joaquin Phoenix was acting weird and so people decided all Joaquin Phoenix has lost his mind, right? I didn't like the interview and they kind of people went cool on him, right?

02:16:53 Speaker_05
Then he did like a documentary showing that he was like playing a character for a while, right? Is that what he was doing? Like I think so. Yes.

02:17:00 Speaker_07
It was just like an art piece.

02:17:01 Speaker_05
Yes and

02:17:02 Speaker_07
This could have been a $250 million practical joke.

02:17:06 Speaker_05
That's what I'm saying.

02:17:07 Speaker_07
Maybe it was.

02:17:07 Speaker_05
This is the same guy.

02:17:08 Speaker_07
Yeah, maybe it's a fun quarter billion dollar practical joke.

02:17:13 Speaker_05
It's a bit. If you're Joaquin Phoenix, you're the fucking king of the hill, right? You're like one of the biggest movie stars in the country. You're the guy from Gladiator, right? He can kind of trick Hollywood dummies.

02:17:22 Speaker_07
I think they thought that this would be received differently. I think they thought, I think they're maybe in a little bit of a bubble.

02:17:33 Speaker_05
I think Joaquin Phoenix is alone in his house right now laughing that he pulled that off. I don't think he even knows he did it. But it's the same guy that did this thing.

02:17:43 Speaker_07
Do you think he's crazy? I think he's an actor, so I don't think he exists. I think it's just what the new part is.

02:17:50 Speaker_05
He becomes that. Joaquin Phoenix tells Letterman, I hope Spoof didn't offend you. Actor apologized the late show host for awkward interview that features in new film. I'm still here So he was doing that as a part of the film.

02:18:06 Speaker_05
That's the idea So the film is that he was acting like he was a crazy person.

02:18:10 Speaker_07
Yeah, it was like a documentary about him making Music all they had to do All they had to do was blow some shit up have him escape from prison and Have them do something. Get a couple of scenes in the courthouse or something.

02:18:28 Speaker_05
It says throughout Phoenix was trailed by actor Casey Affleck who is his brother-in-law and a film crew the result I'm still here was released this month as an ostensible documentary about the corrosive effects of celebrity and Wealth on a now drug-addled actor in the profession since he was a child So the idea is that there they did a documentary on how fucked up he was and so he went on Letterman to act fucked up and

02:18:55 Speaker_05
But I think it was a goof. No, it was a goof. It was all an elaborate spoof.

02:19:00 Speaker_05
It was Affleck who confirmed what many suspected that it was all an elaborate spoof last week telling New York Times that Phoenix had given a terrific performance as the performance of his career.

02:19:10 Speaker_05
So he just acted like he was drugged out and out of his fucking mind for a spoof. Like, this is the kind of guy that would trick those Hollywood dumbasses into making a musical sequel to The Joker.

02:19:21 Speaker_07
I mean, if he did that, then that's great. I don't know. I know that he was raised in a cult when he was a little kid and his name was Leaf. So whatever he does, God bless him. He's a brilliant actor. He changed it from Leaf to Joaquin.

02:19:31 Speaker_07
Yeah, it's a, you know, I mean, the guy's brilliant, but the movie was just, I mean, God, was it rough.

02:19:37 Speaker_05
It's crazy because the first one was so good. He was so believable. The first one was really great.

02:19:43 Speaker_07
And then the second one just went. And if you were a fan of the first one, the second one was like kind of, I think, insane to a fan of the first one. Well, it wouldn't be the first time. Yeah.

02:19:55 Speaker_07
You know, it would be like if Godfather 2 was about like the Corleone family going legit. You know what I mean? And apologizing for the mafia. They were like, hey, I'm sorry we did all this shit. We now have a bakery. It went completely the other way.

02:20:16 Speaker_05
Yeah. Well, I didn't see it, but I heard it sucked.

02:20:21 Speaker_07
Has anyone won?

02:20:23 Speaker_04
I guess I'm still got one minute before the first polls close one minute Definitely got to be some I'm waiting. I'm checking everywhere Exit polls and all that's what we're waiting for. I mean, there's only like three or four states that close then I

02:20:42 Speaker_04
North Carolina is early, right? The only discussions I can see is what's going on in Pennsylvania, what's going on in Philadelphia. So what's going on there? I don't know. Trump said that there's some cheating going on.

02:20:51 Speaker_04
Well, he's certainly going to say that. If there is, then there is.

02:20:57 Speaker_05
When he was on the podcast, I wish he could just rattle off. I'm open to it, too. Just tell me what it is. Tell me what it is. I feel you. I hear you. He's like, there's so much evidence, so much evidence. We have so much evidence of cheating.

02:21:07 Speaker_07
But a lot of people close to him say there isn't. Who's those people?

02:21:11 Speaker_05
And how many of those people are covering their ass? I don't know, but Mike Pence probably... Oh, see? That's what I'm talking about. That guy... Is he covering his ass? Yeah, he just endorsed Kamala Harris, too. Yeah, they wanted to kill him.

02:21:23 Speaker_05
There was people that went to, on January 6th, they were looking for him. Allegedly and supposedly. No, no, no, for sure.

02:21:30 Speaker_07
But I'm wondering, like... I'm open to the idea that there was fraud, but a lot of top people that were in his orbit don't talk about it. He talks about it.

02:21:41 Speaker_05
Right. But OK, so let's take Pence out of the equation because he's probably salty.

02:21:47 Speaker_07
Well, for sure, but I'm saying like Pence didn't, if there was evidence, wouldn't he, like Pence, have said, all right, let's not certify it?

02:21:53 Speaker_05
No. That is a crazy thing to do. Right. Okay. For the vice president to stand up and say, I mean, that's essentially like you're getting ready for a fucking major conflict. Gotcha. You know what I'm saying? Don't you think? No, for sure. We just need someone.

02:22:09 Speaker_05
That guy doesn't want that kind of heat. That's not Trump.

02:22:12 Speaker_07
For sure. We need someone outside of Trump to verify it. Yeah, like who would that be that you would trust implicitly? Well, you would just need to see evidence. It would just be like if I made a claim about anything, I'd have to provide evidence.

02:22:23 Speaker_05
But let's imagine that you were working with someone like Trump and you're like a top guy and you know there's no election interference. You know that the election integrity was 100%. You know that he's not telling the truth.

02:22:38 Speaker_05
How could you stay with him? How could you stay with him without laying it out to him? Like, sir, can I just have an hour of your time? Let me explain to you what the problem with saying that it's rigged.

02:22:48 Speaker_05
Here's where you can say it's rigged, okay, for sure. There was 100% involvement in social media companies suppressing information that would have changed the results, at least in some percentage in one way or the other.

02:23:01 Speaker_07
Yeah, and listen, I'm open to it being that there was fuckery in other ways. I just think that Just like anything else you can't take someone's word.

02:23:09 Speaker_05
Well. He says there's a bunch.

02:23:11 Speaker_05
He just didn't have it on sure Yeah, but I would imagine that you if you're there's something you've been talking about for three years like if you ask me yeah Important stuff in my like even stuff like you asked me about like jiu-jitsu right I could tell you all these different things that have happened and

02:23:29 Speaker_05
I could tell you why this is important and why that's not important. That's like a minor thing relatively to you lost the president of the United States. That's a major thing.

02:23:39 Speaker_05
And so if you knew that you had been cheated to the point where you're willing to talk openly about the fact that they cheated, they cheated me, this is how I know, I would want to be able to rattle off Yes, he should.

02:23:51 Speaker_05
I would want to be able to say we found there was 25,000 inconsistent votes in this place. We know that there was manipulation of this thing or that thing. Tell me. You should have that ready to go.

02:24:03 Speaker_00
I agree.

02:24:06 Speaker_05
It's a thing that we don't want to think is true, but if we're gonna put our fucking necks out there and agree with it, or at least entertain it, you gotta have it laid out. Bullet points. Yes, you gotta have it laid out.

02:24:19 Speaker_05
But I think he's just so fucking busy, he's probably got other people doing that, and they're all telling him that it's stolen, and he just listens to them and doesn't have that stuff ready to go.

02:24:31 Speaker_07
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, Steve Bannon brought up an interesting point the other night on Megyn Kelly where he said, They had lost by a certain amount of votes or Biden had gotten however many more votes than Obama, whatever.

02:24:46 Speaker_07
But also the Republicans picked up like a ton of House seats, which is there's something fishy about that, where it's like all these people are just voting Republican down and then Biden. So there were things.

02:24:58 Speaker_07
And again, I'm not talking about the veracity of it. I'm just saying. There's some suspicious there were some suspicious things that he felt was fishy or tricky or whatever now.

02:25:07 Speaker_07
I don't know Again, this has been a a thing that's been over the heads of whereas you have people on the right that go It was stolen and don't know any of the evidence, right?

02:25:17 Speaker_07
Then there are people on the left that go he's an election He's an election denier, which they also did with the Russiagate stuff for years, right said that he was installed and right in a compromise or whatever

02:25:27 Speaker_07
And then I think there's just got to be, like you said, there's just got to be more information about whatever happened. Right.

02:25:35 Speaker_05
Well, the idea of breaking into voting machines goes way back to the HBO documentary Hacking Democracy about George Bush. Remember that? About the Diebold machines. That's right.

02:25:45 Speaker_05
And the fear, and this is back when I was a hardcore lefty, the fear was that the Republicans were going to be able to rig the vote with these machines, because the people who made those machines were contributors to the Republican Party.

02:25:58 Speaker_05
Now it's the other way. Now the right is constantly worried about Dominion. Well, they won that lawsuit. Dominion won that lawsuit. Right. Against Fox News, correct? Against Fox. Because Fox was saying things that it didn't have evidence for.

02:26:10 Speaker_05
How's the best way to do it?

02:26:11 Speaker_07
Is it paper ballots, voter ID? You have to have an ID.

02:26:15 Speaker_05
Well, I would imagine, first of all, of course you should have to have an ID. The only reason why you wouldn't want someone to have an ID is because you want to cheat. You have to have an ID for everything.

02:26:25 Speaker_05
You got to get a fucking membership at Costco. What about a fingerprint? Why not?

02:26:29 Speaker_07
Let's do that. Because maybe you lose your ID that day, but maybe you can go in and say, here's my finger. Why not?

02:26:34 Speaker_05
Why not?

02:26:34 Speaker_07
Some biometric thing.

02:26:36 Speaker_05
Yeah, biometric could be easy. It could be something you register for on your cell phone. They always have your face now. You can just show up. That's not hard to do in this day and age.

02:26:44 Speaker_05
But the idea that you wouldn't want anyone to have ID, that means you want people voting that shouldn't be voting, and we know that that happens. That's been proven that at least in certain circumstances, people are voting that shouldn't be voting.

02:26:56 Speaker_05
And the only reason why you would want that is because you want to cheat. So the only reason why you would want no ID is so that you could cheat. Yeah. So now I got to go, how much do you cheat? So you're willing to cheat in that way.

02:27:07 Speaker_05
You're willing to cheat where you're willing to block information that would have changed the vote. Oh, they've always been willing to do that. You're willing to cheat where you tell people they don't have to have ID.

02:27:16 Speaker_07
They've always been willing to do that. And then the right has been willing to do things to that compromise the integrity of things for sure. 100 percent. And you just got to figure out how to do like an actual election that is

02:27:30 Speaker_05
Fair it's AI and it's it's gonna be president AI. Yeah. Well, I think we're gonna give up government to artificial intelligence Once it's vastly superior to us That's what I sense.

02:27:41 Speaker_05
Yeah, it does make sense but I think it's on our path what we're talking about before about people becoming more frail and more like feeble and like the British people we talk about their teeth, you know, that's from It's from your jaw.

02:27:54 Speaker_07
That's not all British people.

02:27:55 Speaker_05
Don't get mad at me. When people have small jaws, like, and they all have scurvy. It's literally from eating mushy food. Because they eat mushy peas and they have scurvy. Your bones aren't as thick anymore because you're not chewing meat.

02:28:11 Speaker_05
You're not breaking things down with your teeth. You don't have to crack. So your jaw, like over time, becomes smaller and smaller. Interesting.

02:28:19 Speaker_05
Yeah, there's actually a technique called mewing and this guy figured out this technique where you can change the shape of your jaw With exercises and tongue pressure and that there's other guys that I have a thing that I use at home It's like a weight lift with my jaw.

02:28:35 Speaker_05
It sounds crazy. So

02:28:36 Speaker_05
Yeah, but there's these weights It's like a rubber ball and you put it in your teeth and you fucking mash down on your teeth And it builds your jaw muscles and it makes your jaw more square like literally works you do jaw Exercises and that's the reason why these people for a long time were eating mashed potatoes and fucking gruel Like they're a poor shit, but their jaws all shrunk

02:28:57 Speaker_05
Interesting. Yeah It's a good theory. It makes sense Yeah, like you would need like that's one of the reasons why people have to get their wisdom teeth removed. Our jaws are getting smaller We're not like breaking down tough meat anymore.

02:29:09 Speaker_05
So the shape of our face looks different.

02:29:11 Speaker_07
So eventually there's just gonna be a bunch of AI government

02:29:14 Speaker_05
We're going to slim down, son.

02:29:15 Speaker_07
Instead of these tiny-jawed bitches in there.

02:29:17 Speaker_05
When you look at aliens, right? You look at the aliens, they always have little tiny jaws, big-ass fucking head. That's us, dude. So the next ten years are just going to be unreal. We're going to be those things.

02:29:26 Speaker_05
I think those things that we see, that people keep seeing, Even if they're not real. We become them. That's us in the future. The grace. Yeah. We just become them. We're sexless, genderless cyborgs. Right. Or maybe even completely artificial by that point.

02:29:40 Speaker_05
Maybe we realize that consciousness can actually be captured and that we all share it and there's no benefit whatsoever in being an individual.

02:29:47 Speaker_05
That it's just a cheat code that the primate used in order to think of itself as important enough to continue to innovate to the point where it creates artificial intelligence.

02:29:58 Speaker_07
Now, if she had run on that instead of the word joy, I would have voted for her.

02:30:02 Speaker_05
I think that's where we're going. I think that's what all this gender shit is.

02:30:07 Speaker_05
I think that's why male hormone levels are dropping through the floor, which is all a big part because of sedentary lifestyle and also because of these estrogens and plastics and all these different things that are fucking with people's reproductive cycles.

02:30:21 Speaker_07
Do you think we've been here before? In what way? Do you think humanity's ever been in this spot before?

02:30:29 Speaker_05
I think humanity's been in a different but similar spot. I think that's what ancient Egypt was all about.

02:30:35 Speaker_05
There's no way that level of sophistication could be achieved unless those people were beyond what anybody is thinking about from people that lived 5,000, 6,000 years ago. There's just no way. There's literally no way. Does God figure into this at all?

02:30:54 Speaker_05
I don't know if God's real God's everything right God's real God's the universe and there's like a powerful creative force that didn't just made earth and Bunch of stupid people that were in a garden and this bitch talked to the snake right an apple right no God made the whole thing There's a real God he made the whole thing and the whole thing is made by what?

02:31:13 Speaker_05
It's made by the universe, right? The universe makes itself, right? So the universe is probably God. So yeah, God plays into it. But I think there's a direction that primates go in.

02:31:24 Speaker_05
And it goes into like, ever more weak and feeble, but much more capable with tools. And it happens with some primates, like bonobos, they're super peaceful, they just fuck each other. Somehow or another, there's chimpanzees that are

02:31:41 Speaker_05
murderous monsters that just run around tearing each other apart, killing each other, tribal wars, killing monkeys, and then there's these other ones that just fuck each other all the time. And chill. Yeah, like, what is that?

02:31:52 Speaker_05
That seems like they're a little bit more evolved, and that's probably how humans were, and then humans eventually figured out tools and stuff, and we became what we are now.

02:32:01 Speaker_05
Well, we're gonna keep going in that direction, so we're so much weaker than even a monkey. You're like a monkey, you'll tear your fucking head off. Like we're so feeble and we're going to get feebler. It's going to be smarter, way smarter. Yeah.

02:32:15 Speaker_05
We're going to be communicating completely with our minds. We'll probably never need sounds anymore. We'll probably never use devices. Everything will happen in your mind. What's the fun of all of that? What's the fun of being a chimp? Is that fun?

02:32:30 Speaker_05
You want to throw shit for the rest of your life and eat bananas? Get the fuck out of here. I want to drive a Cadillac. I want to watch a fucking movie. I want to call people on my phone that are nowhere near me. So what's the purpose of being a person?

02:32:43 Speaker_05
You're filled with anxiety. You're worried about who's going to win the election. You're trying to stay off drugs, but you want a cigarette. What's the point?

02:32:50 Speaker_05
What's the point in that stupidity when you can be an enlightened being that flies through space with your mind? Ooh. Well, I never thought about it like that.

02:32:59 Speaker_05
If Lazar's telling the truth, Bob Lazar, the guy that supposedly back-engineered these crafts. If that guy's telling the truth, he said there's no controls inside those devices. They're powering them with their mind.

02:33:11 Speaker_05
There's some connection between the entity and the device that's not an interface like we think of like a joystick and buttons.

02:33:20 Speaker_07
So they're just so evolved, it's a different thing.

02:33:22 Speaker_05
It's a different thing, but it's just a different thing. It's probably what we become because we didn't always have clothes. Well, of course. Think about clothes and shoes and your silly sunglasses. Yeah all this stuff.

02:33:31 Speaker_05
Well, this is all they're beautiful Okay, I'm still have of course when I have a mug. Oh, dude, you're right. We're advanced. We're advanced So we're so much different than chimps.

02:33:41 Speaker_07
It's a evolution didn't end with time

02:33:43 Speaker_05
It's our distant distant distant cousin, but if you look at them, and you look at us like what is going on with them Why do they have to have clothes like what is they're wearing coats and jackets and shit all have shoes No one works walks barefoot at all right with it.

02:33:57 Speaker_05
We're softening ourselves up, right? We're like literally putting a nice shell over ourselves, so we become a fucking a squid like some so usually you come back to this planet in 50 years if it's still here robots and Robots. Robots.

02:34:12 Speaker_05
I think no more biological life in terms of humans. Wildlife will exist. All that stuff will exist. No more people. Really? Yeah. I think people are the cocoon. We make the electronic butterfly. It comes out of the cocoon.

02:34:26 Speaker_05
We don't know why we're making the cocoon, but we're making the cocoon. Everybody gets the newest phone. Everybody has the newest TV. Look, it's got Wi-Fi built in. So do you get a skin suit? You're not even going to be biological.

02:34:39 Speaker_05
I think we're going to give up. Are we going to be able to? This is what I think they're going to do. I think they're going to integrate first. I think we're going to be cyborgs. It's going to start with things like Neuralink.

02:34:47 Speaker_07
Can I get that now? You can get it. Can I sign up for it now? I don't want to wait. But you don't want to be an early adopter, like those girls who got those lip jobs. I'll take the chance. Many of them are in Miami. They're fine, these whores.

02:35:00 Speaker_07
I will take the thing now. It just sounds fun. It sounds good. I want to be in a vehicle without communicating with my mind.

02:35:06 Speaker_05
So there was a guy who branched off. He was one of the original guys with Neuralink. He branched off to form his own company and they just created an implant that allows blind people to see.

02:35:20 Speaker_00
Amazing.

02:35:20 Speaker_05
See if you can find that, Jamie. I think it is like you wear goggles. I think it's like there's a whole thing. I don't think it's as simple as they put it in your head. But again, cell phone used to be a suitcase that you carried around.

02:35:31 Speaker_05
And you had to open the suitcase to get your phone out and pull the antenna out. Now it's this little tiny thing that Beyond for 24 hours in a row.

02:35:39 Speaker_05
Yeah watch movies, but this is eventually gonna be inside of us Yeah, and then side of us that's a good point because then you go the next step We had the first neural link patient on and interest and he controls a cursor with his mind and he said when he plays games it's like a cheat because he's got like an aimbot and

02:35:57 Speaker_05
So everywhere he sees is where the cursor goes. He doesn't have to go hand to eye. Eye goes to cursor instantaneously. So he's like, I don't miss. I just like you look at where you want something to go and it just goes there.

02:36:13 Speaker_07
That's and he's controlling it with his mind. So there's gonna be over the next however many years Different generations, you know, it's just like iPhones.

02:36:22 Speaker_05
Yes for sure Science Corporation imagine that's your name Science Corporation. How what how uncreative? Oh Is this the Chinese front? Science Corporation? That sounds like a fake name. Science Corporation.

02:36:36 Speaker_05
A biotech startup launched by a Neuralink co-founder claims it has achieved a breakthrough in brain-computer interface technology that can help patients with severe vision loss.

02:36:45 Speaker_05
In preliminary clinical trials, legally blind patients who lost their central vision received the company's retina implants, which restored their eyesight and even allowed them to read books and recognize faces, the startup announced last week. Whoa!

02:36:59 Speaker_05
To my knowledge, this is the first time that the restoration of the ability to fluently read has ever been definitively shown in blind patients. CEO Max Hodak, who was the president of Neuralink before founding Science Corp, said in a statement.

02:37:13 Speaker_05
Holy shit. What does it look like, Jamie? Can you show what it looks like? I want to see what it looks like. Sounds crazy. Science Corporation. Good luck finding that on Google. What are you going to find? Oh, it's in the first one. Prima.

02:37:32 Speaker_05
All right, what does it look like? So this is the implants? Where is it? So where does it go? Oh, look, they're showing you. So they stick it back there in the back of your fucking eyeball. Look how tiny it is. Holy shit, man.

02:37:52 Speaker_05
I love how, by the way, it's just Americans are like, look, you'll be able to see the oven. So he has to wear glasses. And the glasses work with that implant. And now he can see things. This is crazy.

02:38:06 Speaker_04
It's amazing. It's that for people who lost their vision, you have to already have some sort of, they couldn't like. You got to have some vision. Yeah, you have to know a basis of.

02:38:15 Speaker_05
Well, I don't know that.

02:38:16 Speaker_04
What things look like. I'm sure how could you recognize someone's face if you never saw before?

02:38:20 Speaker_05
Well, you wouldn't until you saw them and then from then on you'd be able to recognize their face These political texts are so crazy. They're still coming in. What are you getting?

02:38:29 Speaker_07
Oh, I just this telling you where to go This woman had my phone named Janina and I guess she was a big Democratic donor or not You know, she's because they're like Janina. We're panicked. Can you please answer? Have you voted?

02:38:41 Speaker_07
I'm like, um, we're panicked Right, I go, I don't know what to do. Janina. Are you fucking with her? No, because it's just a bot. This is what we're talking about. It's all AI. It's just bots going like, please vote. Yes or no?

02:38:56 Speaker_04
Are you a Republican? 75,000 votes counted so far. only? Who won? Who won out of the 75,000? I mean, I don't even know where they're from. It's 49,000 for Trump, 24,000 for Harris. So even.

02:39:10 Speaker_05
What is your suspicion of what's going to happen?

02:39:16 Speaker_07
I thought it was, you know, I think it will be him But I also thought that is very close. And I think with Roe, that was the one X factor. 100 percent. That was the only X factor I had thought about. I think without that.

02:39:33 Speaker_05
Not just Roe, but that thing that I brought up with J.D. Vance, which some people believe is true. And apparently there might have been a case in Texas, Jamie. I know you're Googling, but. Yeah.

02:39:41 Speaker_05
where we were talking about women in a place where it's restrictive, like Texas has a six-week law, which is crazy because you don't even know you're pregnant in six weeks. You barely missed your period, right? It's crazy.

02:39:52 Speaker_05
Especially if your period's not regular. And then if you go to another state where abortion is legal and they find out, they can prosecute you. Right.

02:40:01 Speaker_07
So that's the type of stuff, I think, that she could win on that. Because that is crazy.

02:40:06 Speaker_05
Well, it's not it's not just crazy.

02:40:08 Speaker_05
It's gross because here's why it's gross not not just because you shouldn't be able to tell people where the fuck to go and where right where they can go and do things that it's a legal medical procedure, but imagine if you're a woman who gets pregnant and you have a miscarriage and You go and visit your mom who lives in Oklahoma where?

02:40:26 Speaker_05
Abortions legal and then you get questioned as to whether or not you had an illegal abortion you get in That, that's a, can you imagine? No, it's crazy. You lose your kid and you're fucking heartbroken.

02:40:40 Speaker_07
That's the one thing where I could see a groundswell of women coming up for her and she could win.

02:40:45 Speaker_05
Yeah, because that's, the idea of that is attached to these apps, right? So there's apps that women can use that track their ovulation.

02:40:54 Speaker_05
Right, so they track their menstrual cycles through these apps and if they get the data from these apps and the apps show that you lost your period or you didn't have your menstrual cycle and then you went to Oklahoma

02:41:08 Speaker_05
It doesn't mean anything, but are we going to let people investigate people's bodies? No, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's insane. It's crazy.

02:41:17 Speaker_05
And that's the worst direction it could head, because they made one headway, Roe versus Wade, they got rid of it, so now it's up to the states. Well, that makes it sketchy.

02:41:26 Speaker_05
And now if the states are going to prosecute people for traveling to other states, well then now you're saying the state is in control of your body? No, that's crazy.

02:41:33 Speaker_05
Your ability to go somewhere in America, whether or not you agree with it or don't agree with it. He said he wasn't aware of that and we wouldn't want to do that. But I think that this is a thing that was brought up. See if you can find that in Texas.

02:41:47 Speaker_04
The case I found in Texas, I don't think it had to do with out-of-state abortion. I might be wrong.

02:41:53 Speaker_05
Oh, it had to do with in-state abortion.

02:41:54 Speaker_07
You know, Europe handles this all kind of well. It's one of the things they do. They just have, like, whatever their rule is and everyone's okay with it.

02:42:01 Speaker_05
The thing is, they have a restriction as well. People are talking about France. I'm going to go to Europe where a woman's right to choose. But they have restrictions there.

02:42:07 Speaker_07
But it makes sense that no one cares.

02:42:09 Speaker_05
Yes. It's like there's a certain time where you can't do it anymore because it's viable outside the womb. It's Bill Burr's bit. Yeah, yeah. You know, I think a woman should have red shoes and I think you're killing a baby.

02:42:20 Speaker_05
Like both those things are true.

02:42:22 Speaker_07
Yeah, it's like, it's just these issues, they're the problem with some of these issues that can be solved. And like when Fetterman said that thing about immigration and he goes, yeah, nobody wants to solve it because it's good for everybody.

02:42:33 Speaker_07
There is something to me that's about all of these issues that seem weirdly like people are against any type of rational common ground. I think you're right in that regard.

02:42:40 Speaker_05
I think there's definitely some truth to that. I think some people do want things solved. Most people don't want late term. These things are these political beach balls that get tossed around a concert.

02:42:51 Speaker_05
In one of the ones that people were terrified of if they got rid of Roe v. Wade, the next one was gay marriage. Because they were like, no, a marriage between a man and a woman. People were worried that all this stuff is coming out of religion.

02:43:04 Speaker_07
Well, I think a lot of it's going to go to states' rights. So I think where you live will determine a lot of your Freedom. Freedom.

02:43:15 Speaker_07
I think they've said they don't care about gay marriage but I imagine that would come up and I imagine that... Lindsey Graham does not want to give up half his stuff.

02:43:24 Speaker_05
Right. I don't believe in gay marriage.

02:43:26 Speaker_07
Neither do I. Marriage itself is... I believe in minerals. Yeah, good for him. I'm more with him on that in the mineral front. But no, I think that of course

02:43:36 Speaker_07
These things will probably go to popular votes and it's because people are uncomfortable with the courts and telling them that they have to believe a certain way or think a certain thing and that's the whole thing it's like

02:43:56 Speaker_07
You can you can vote with your wallet. You can vote with your feet. You can leave a state. Obviously, I am for a woman's right to choose. I am not an elected official in Missouri. I have no power there. I do not live there.

02:44:11 Speaker_07
I have no influence at all over a woman's body in Missouri, positively or negatively. It's like there are things. This is this crazy big country.

02:44:22 Speaker_05
where yes i would agree that a lot of things but i also i didn't agree with a lot of things that they've done wouldn't you if you wanted to this is an interesting way you want to play 4d chess like if you wanted to get rid of the republicans

02:44:35 Speaker_05
and you're a rhino, you're like a sneaky, fake Republican. Wouldn't you push to get rid of Roe v. Wade? Because one of the things that Roe v. Wade is going to do... Well, we'll see if it has an effect. Hold on a second.

02:44:45 Speaker_05
Here's one thing that Roe v. Wade is going to do. Roe v. Wade is going to charge up a bunch of women who don't want men telling them what to do. So they're going to want to vote Democrat, right? And they're going to go out in large numbers.

02:44:56 Speaker_05
And if you do that at the same time, you're shipping all these immigrants into all these swing states, and then you have those folks Yeah. Join the Democratic Party too. So they're all voting Democrat too.

02:45:08 Speaker_05
Now you have a reason why you should want to take over this red area and turn it blue because these fucking men are trying to tell these women what they can and can't do. It's like one more layer on the cake that you're allowed. For sure.

02:45:22 Speaker_05
Like the percentage support, you'll get more percentage support. It's like a good idea if you were like a creepy puppet master that was controlling the strings of civil unrest in the country.

02:45:32 Speaker_07
If the Democrats had said, listen, we're not allowing any gender experimentation on kids until they're adults. And we are not. And we're going to enforce the border law. And Biden had said, I'm serving one term. And they had a primary.

02:45:46 Speaker_07
Trump probably wouldn't be back. He's back because they opened the fucking door. His main issue is immigration. They literally exacerbated it. Ten million illegals came over the border.

02:45:58 Speaker_07
And then people are incredibly uncomfortable with their children being indoctrinated in schools with this crap. I think he would have been back anyway. He might have been back, but I don't think he would have won.

02:46:08 Speaker_05
I think they thought he ripped them off. I think the reality is they've given him

02:46:16 Speaker_07
on a silver platter his biggest issue, which is that people want a country.

02:46:21 Speaker_05
Well, what do you think they would do to beat him? So if he's back, if Biden does say that, he steps down, who is running?

02:46:30 Speaker_07
Fetterman's obviously not mentally there to run, but a guy that has that, you need a working class guy who goes, we need a country. We need to have a distinction between citizen and non-citizen.

02:46:45 Speaker_07
The social contract has to be, otherwise we have a social contract with no, it's invalidated completely when you're bringing people in from all over the world and the government is promising them things and they're getting votes and they're replacing Americans in certain manufacturing jobs or whatever.

02:47:01 Speaker_07
you don't have any sense of a country. And you need a country, and you need a working class person who's not condescending, and somebody who goes, look at the Tavistock Clinic in the UK that just closed. Why?

02:47:16 Speaker_07
Because experimental transgender therapies for children is a science that is not only not settled, but it is doing damage to people. This is why that clinic's full of progressives that said,

02:47:28 Speaker_07
We're shutting this down because we're making a lot of fucking mistakes that are irreversible and these are human beings. If you take away those issues. then the Republicans have to run on an economic platform that may or may not be that popular.

02:47:47 Speaker_07
But the Democrats chose instead to elevate DEI, to talk about the most important thing in America is diversity, equity, and inclusion.

02:47:56 Speaker_07
They chose to convince everyone, all of the social capital that they spent convincing people how important it was to support

02:48:06 Speaker_07
the Ukraine with no plan and no end game and open-ended and ditto you know whatever Israel wants to do and maybe we'll have to go into Iran and like to get all of that and to explain that to people and they didn't even explain it that well but they kept telling people how important it was they could have easily easily crafted a message that was

02:48:26 Speaker_07
That was rational and sane all they had to be Was because Trump is a lot and I think there's a lot of people in America that would have said hey, man We should just move on. It's chaos.

02:48:38 Speaker_05
It's a question. Who's the spokesperson? So I have a primary who would it be Gavin Newsom's not trusted. No, it's got to be someone We barely know my Harris is already the vice president. So you have to choose her

02:48:50 Speaker_05
Because if you're gonna go with all that DEI stuff, if you're gonna go all in with this idea that we need a woman of color who's the president, which is one of the things that they were saying all along, that he was gonna do that.

02:49:07 Speaker_05
And I was like, why not just have the best person? No, you have to have a woman. So okay, you've already accepted that. You have her, she's the vice president, she's been there for four years, she knows how shit runs. It's automatic.

02:49:20 Speaker_07
It's automatic, unless you change course and you realize- Unless you have a primary and someone competes against her. You have a primary and you've got to find- But who? I don't know. I don't know who that person is.

02:49:27 Speaker_07
I don't know every Democrat in the country.

02:49:28 Speaker_05
I don't know every Democrat or congressman, governor, or senator. One person that stands out. Any person that colors outside the lines, like Tulsi Gabbard, they get fucking ostracized.

02:49:38 Speaker_07
Well, the lines have to change. That's the problem. The problem is the lines have to change. You cannot be beholden to extremists

02:49:46 Speaker_07
And then on one side you have the extremists, on the other side you have these like corporate oligarchs that are demanding fealty to foreign wars, endless trade agreements that don't benefit workers, you know, hollowing out the middle class.

02:50:03 Speaker_07
And this was all stuff the Republicans were all about in the 80s, and the Democrats were about in the 90s under NAFTA and stuff like that. So if you transform the Democratic Party, again, into a workers party,

02:50:15 Speaker_07
with common sense, reasonable considerations. And it's not based on religious fundamentalism, and it's not based on woke fundamentalism on the other side.

02:50:24 Speaker_05
But how do you get people out of that that are in that, where it's like part of their tribal identity? Like, how do you get people to relinquish... You need a figure that rejects it.

02:50:32 Speaker_07
Like, I think you need somebody to reject it publicly. When Bill Clinton had that sister soldier moment, right? When Bill Clinton... What was that moment? The Sister Soldier moment where she was a rapper or something.

02:50:44 Speaker_07
She said something about America and he corrected her. I forget exactly what it was, but it's a moment where Bill Clinton was running for president and he went against and, you know, and establishes Bonifides as a, you know, here we go. Yeah.

02:51:03 Speaker_05
What was this? I kind of remember this. Sure. Let's play the video.

02:51:13 Speaker_09
Let's stand up for what's always been best about the Rainbow Coalition, which is people coming together across racial lines. You talked about Mr. Fields from Louisiana that you had here last night, a great role model.

02:51:28 Speaker_09
We don't have a lot of time to do this. We don't have a lot of time. You had a rap singer here last night named Sister Soldier.

02:51:40 Speaker_09
I defend her right to express herself through music, but her comments before and after Los Angeles were filled with a kind of hatred that you do not honor today and tonight. Just listen to this, what she said.

02:51:57 Speaker_09
She told the Washington Post about a month ago, and I quote, if black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people? So you're a gang member and you'd normally kill somebody? Why not kill a white person?

02:52:13 Speaker_09
Last year, she said, you can't call me or any black person anywhere in the world a racist. We don't have the power to do to white people what white people have done to us. And even if we did, we don't have that low-down, dirty nature.

02:52:25 Speaker_09
If there are any good white people, I haven't met them. Where are they? Right here in this room. That's where they are. I know she is a young person, but she has a big influence on a lot of people.

02:52:39 Speaker_09
And when people say that, if you took the words white and black and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech. Let me tell you, we all make mistakes, and sometimes we're not as sensitive as we ought to be.

02:52:52 Speaker_09
And we have an obligation, all of us, to call attention to prejudice wherever we see it. A few months ago, I made a mistake. I joined a friend of mine, and I played golf at a country club that didn't have any African American members.

02:53:07 Speaker_09
I was criticized for doing it. You know what? I was rightly criticized for doing it. I made a mistake, and I said I would never do that again. And I think all of us have got to be sensitive to that.

02:53:19 Speaker_09
We can't get anywhere in this country pointing the finger at one another across racial lines. If we do that, we're dead, and they will beat us, even in Reverend Jackson's new math of this election.

02:53:34 Speaker_09
It's hard to get to a 34% solution or a 40% solution if the American people can be divided by race.

02:53:43 Speaker_05
If he ran on that today, he beats everybody. This is what I mean. In a landslide. That's what I mean. In a sensible way. That's what I mean. That's what a Democrat used to be. That's what I mean. How good was that guy, by the way?

02:53:53 Speaker_07
The best. The best speaker. And the best person. But what I mean is that had Kamala Harris

02:54:01 Speaker_07
repudiated yeah a lot of what happened in the madness of 2020 2021 all that stuff and said america is not a white supremacist country that is only set up to terrorize people of color and minorities and that you know yes we've had a past that's been terrible but we've made tons of progress and

02:54:29 Speaker_07
people should be rewarded in this country on the basis of their hard work, their ability, their willingness to take risk. And we cannot have a society that is arranged by people's tribal identity.

02:54:47 Speaker_07
If she'd come out and gave some more eloquent version, off the top of my head, of that speech, it would have been her sister soldier moment, and she could have said, This, my party, went in the wrong direction.

02:55:00 Speaker_07
And by the way, it would have been very compelling to a lot of people.

02:55:05 Speaker_05
Yeah, but she would have to formulate that, or someone would have to help her formulate it. Someone would have to formulate it. So what I'm saying is you should run for president. You should become a Democrat and run on that. Maybe I am.

02:55:14 Speaker_05
Well, you probably couldn't become a Democrat. They'd probably never let you in, but I bet you they'd let you into the Republican Party.

02:55:19 Speaker_07
Not only will they never let me in, depending on the next eight hours, I'm going to be in jail. There's going to be... No, but I think that was the thing. I think Trump ran against the Republican Party in 2016. Yeah. He ran against the Bushes.

02:55:35 Speaker_07
He ran against foreign war. He ran against big business. He ran against every single Republican donor base, every plutocratic concern. Trump ran against it. He ran against the Chamber of Commerce.

02:55:47 Speaker_07
He ran against all the people, the Koch people, all the people who were open borders. He ran against all of those people. And, you know, he ran against major you know, major power factions within that party, and he steamrolled them.

02:56:00 Speaker_07
And Kamala Harris has refused to do that. She didn't repudiate Biden.

02:56:05 Speaker_05
Well, how could she, though? Because he's still president. She's still vice president.

02:56:09 Speaker_07
She has to throw him right under the bus and say that.

02:56:11 Speaker_05
She would almost need a fresh start, like to get out of this cycle and then come back again in 2028.

02:56:16 Speaker_07
He's an old fool.

02:56:17 Speaker_05
That's what I would have said. Somebody asked me about him, I would have said, he's an old fool. But then you'd have to say, well, what is Biden? Oh, he's sharp as a tack. Now I don't believe you anymore.

02:56:26 Speaker_07
But here's the deal. The vice president we all know kind of doesn't do anything. She should just say that. She should go, listen, the vice president didn't do anything.

02:56:31 Speaker_05
Maybe she should say that.

02:56:32 Speaker_07
She should say that. She should go, let's be very honest. Legislation originates in the House of Representatives. The president has an agenda. I'm sitting around. He's an idiot. We let way too many immigrants in. The tranny stuff's gone nuts.

02:56:44 Speaker_07
And we got to put some people in jail. If they break into your car, they steal your phone. Yeah. She should. If she said if a Venezuelan steals your phone, they go right to jail. I would be phone banking for her. She hasn't acknowledged his appeal.

02:57:00 Speaker_07
They never give him his due. They never give Trump his due. Had she said in the debate, listen, Trump, you brought a lot of people into politics. You've ignited their passions. I respect that.

02:57:10 Speaker_07
And you've brought up issues that are important that have been ignored for a long time by both parties. But I just think we need to move forward in this election. And you're a very entertaining guy.

02:57:18 Speaker_07
It was a time, George, Bill Clinton said to George H.W. Bush, he goes, in the middle of the debate, he goes, listen, we all respect your military service. And we respect the sacrifice you made for the country.

02:57:28 Speaker_07
But I think we have to go on another direct. And it was just and then you could see like H like H.W.

02:57:33 Speaker_07
the older one being like, oh, it was seething because Clinton had kind of complimenting complimented him and said, we like what you did, but we got to go in this new direction.

02:57:43 Speaker_05
That would be a brilliant move to use against Trump.

02:57:45 Speaker_07
It would have been a brilliant move to use against Trump, but you're right. She can't do it. She's owned by donors. She's owned by these people.

02:57:52 Speaker_07
And it's unfortunate because had she run against them, there might have been a contingent of people that said they would give her a shot. But I think public speaking is a skill.

02:58:04 Speaker_05
She doesn't have it. No, it's a very particular type of skill. So she has one skill. And that was in that one speech where she said, come say it to my face. Remember that? You got something to say about me? Say it to my face.

02:58:16 Speaker_05
Everybody cheers, like, oh my god, she's going to win. Like, that was, there was a moment. But that was a really well-rehearsed thing that she did, and she had excellent timing in that.

02:58:25 Speaker_00
That's right.

02:58:26 Speaker_05
So then all the pressure comes out, and then the bumbles, and then the interviews, and the stumbles, and the inability to ask, to answer certain questions, and then all that stuff.

02:58:35 Speaker_05
So her ability to do that kind of thing is dependent upon a teleprompter and a well-rehearsed speech.

02:58:42 Speaker_07
She doesn't believe in anything outside of her own ambition.

02:58:45 Speaker_05
Bill Clinton did his whole State of the Union speech once when the teleprompter went down He did it all off the top of his head.

02:58:51 Speaker_07
It was a different thing.

02:58:52 Speaker_05
He was a different thing So a guy like him you don't find those now because they're all pussyhounds and they're hiding, right? Bill Clinton was around before the internet. It was great. Maybe that's what we need to go back to.

02:59:06 Speaker_07
Again, it's that corporate hollow speak that inspires nobody really.

02:59:17 Speaker_05
The thing that inspires people is she laughs a lot and you go girl, woman of color, all that good stuff. She was already Attorney General, she already had Vice President, she's in, very qualified in that regard.

02:59:34 Speaker_05
What Bill Clinton just did, that's what we want. That's what we need. We need an actual leader that I go, well, that's an exceptional human being. The way he talks is better than I can talk. It's better than both of us.

02:59:46 Speaker_05
But the way he's doing it in front of everybody, it's very, very comforting.

02:59:50 Speaker_07
Because at that moment, he was the left flank of his party. I'm sure didn't love that. And I'm sure that there were people that criticized him for that. But he basically came out and said, listen,

03:00:02 Speaker_07
I'm going to go out here, and I'm going to take a stance that's going to anger people, but I'm going to reach across the aisle and say, you're right. This is not moving us in the right direction. There were moments that she could have done that.

03:00:18 Speaker_07
She chose not to. And I think that's, again, we don't know anything, so I don't know if I'm doing a post-mortem on her campaign or not. But what do you think if you had a bet right now? I think it's him now.

03:00:31 Speaker_07
I think if he gets Michigan or Pennsylvania, it's over. And I think he's getting one of them. I don't think she gets both of them, but I could be totally wrong. What do you think?

03:00:41 Speaker_05
Jamie make up the results because it's been these all these turning points It's been all these ups and downs and yes, you know stumbles and recoveries and you know different interviews Yeah, I'm still fucking there was a time.

03:00:55 Speaker_07
I thought it was definitely Her and then there was a time that I thought it was definitely him and then I there was a time I thought it was definitely her and now I think it's him again God I wish I got a chance to interview her You know

03:01:09 Speaker_05
That one would be interesting. What if she changed my mind? What if she, like, in an actual conversation? It's cool. She could just be herself.

03:01:15 Speaker_07
Well, here's the thing. She would have had to do what Clinton did, and she can't do it because they are being held hostage by an ideology that is crippling to thought.

03:01:27 Speaker_05
Right. But so wouldn't you want... So a person like that, really, I'd want to talk to them about stuff outside of being president. You know, because I think that's when you can find out a lot of shit about people.

03:01:39 Speaker_07
Yeah, I think the Walsh thing was a mistake.

03:01:42 Speaker_05
Oh yeah, she even said that she chose him when she was sleep deprived. Of course. He's a buffoon. By the way, it's a hilarious thing to say. Of course. You can't kick him out either, right? No. You can't say, I changed my mind, you're fired.

03:01:56 Speaker_07
She should have went with Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania.

03:02:01 Speaker_05
Republicans would have been panicked. But do you think that the free Palestine people would have got upset because Josh Shapiro was Jewish?

03:02:07 Speaker_07
Yeah, but at the end of the day, he would have won. He would have won more Jews back. He's a better debater. And I think he would have been instrumental in PA. And I think PA is the ballgame.

03:02:17 Speaker_03
Right.

03:02:18 Speaker_07
So I think, yes, people would not have been happy with his. But by the way, Walsh is saying the same stuff. So Shapiro's going, Israel's got a right to defend itself. And it's our big friend and whatever. Walsh

03:02:31 Speaker_07
is saying the same thing as Shapiro would have said except he's a goofy guy who should be at like a state fair eating hot dogs he shouldn't be the vice president so if you're gonna have that party line because it's the party line no matter what you ask them that's just their party line they go

03:02:48 Speaker_05
Israel has a right to defend and it's funny if that's going to be the party line have a competent shrewd operator say it and not this buffoon not only that who should be ice fishing who's been caught lying multiple times he's a pathological liar and he lies about stuff that's not important that's right that no one cares about like you don't have to lie about that yeah you don't have to you're lying because you're

03:03:11 Speaker_05
Your version of the truth is not, what you're giving people is not the truth. You're changing the truth in all ways to make you look better. You're a head coach instead of an assistant coach. Your military rank is better than it is.

03:03:24 Speaker_05
You pretend kind of that you served in war.

03:03:28 Speaker_07
It's a total, you know, it's patronizing to the American people to just put this guy out there and say he's just like you. And he's one of those radical people. I mean, it's just not a mainstream guy.

03:03:48 Speaker_07
Shapiro is much more of a mainstream guy who just happened to be Jewish.

03:03:53 Speaker_03
Right.

03:03:53 Speaker_07
And this guy who comes from Minnesota is a very far left radical guy who, again, is he is not Karl Marx, but he's nowhere near the mainstream of American politics.

03:04:06 Speaker_07
And they pick him out and they go, but he talks, he's folksy, he's got a charm, he's a fun guy, but he happens to be a liar and full of shit.

03:04:16 Speaker_07
And you know, his wife, when the BLM riots were happening, said, we just rolled down the, you just open the windows and smelt the burning tires and really took in the moment. That's a quote from his psychotic wife. So they're psychopaths.

03:04:30 Speaker_05
They're psychopaths, these people. That's joker shit rolling up the windows. It's joker shit.

03:04:34 Speaker_07
And we smell the burning tires we just took in the moment. That's a quote from Gwen Walls. Good Lord. So at the end of the day, it's like they're not representative of the American people just because you might bump into them at a state fair.

03:04:44 Speaker_07
They're just broke those two. They don't have a dollar. So that was exciting. They're like, oh, we got this guy who's broke and he was like a coach and he has no money. But he turns out he's a liar.

03:04:58 Speaker_07
When riots are going on, people are not taking in the moment and sniffing the burnt tires. This is, you know, this is psychopath. This is a psychopath.

03:05:10 Speaker_01
Those first days, you know, when there were riots, I could smell the burning tires and, um, That was a very real thing. And I kept the windows open for as long as I could because I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was happening.

03:05:31 Speaker_07
She's ill. She's mentally ill. I kept the windows open until I got as much burning tire smoke in my house. In my house. So you can't, can we, what? It's a psychopath. And the Democrats bring her out because they go, they're teachers and they're broke.

03:05:49 Speaker_07
They're like you. And then you go, I don't know about that.

03:05:52 Speaker_05
Let anybody talk off script. If they're going to be smart about this in the future, you've got to put everybody on a script. Unless you find yourself another Bill Clinton, put everybody on a fucking script.

03:06:00 Speaker_07
God, he was good. I mean, listen. Pedophile, perhaps. Epstein friend, perhaps. Human trafficker, perhaps. But God, did he talk. Such good talker.

03:06:08 Speaker_05
God, did he talk. And then I think it goes back to what we're talking about, about secret societies. Like, there's always been these people that were in the White House or wherever these fucking places.

03:06:19 Speaker_05
These people fucking, they go crazy behind closed doors. And you're just assuming that they're the person they portray themselves on television. This buttoned down person with a suit and tie who's talking to you about the future.

03:06:31 Speaker_05
Right, and that is not what's happening. That's not what's happening. They're human beings. They have vices. They like wild shit, I bet. They like power, for sure, otherwise they wouldn't be president.

03:06:41 Speaker_05
They like power, and they probably are into some kinky shit that they know they're not supposed to be doing because it's fun. For sure. That's probably what's fun about it. For sure. You're the president, you're getting your dick sucked like this.

03:06:51 Speaker_05
It's crazy. In the Oval Office. It's crazy. Think about that. Yeah, that's a good point. That'd be so much fun. That's probably why Kennedy did it. They were out of control. And then all of a sudden, they can't be anymore. So it's like, what?

03:07:03 Speaker_06
Huh? Yeah.

03:07:04 Speaker_05
It's like when they said Catholic priests couldn't get married anymore. Like, what?

03:07:07 Speaker_06
Yeah.

03:07:08 Speaker_05
So creepy. Catholic priests used to fuck. They used to be rock stars, but they were fucking too many people.

03:07:13 Speaker_07
Yeah, but thank God after they banned marriage in the Catholic Church, nothing bad happened. Definitely. Thank God nothing bad happened. Well, you think it's you think it's him for sure?

03:07:22 Speaker_05
I do not know. I do not know.

03:07:24 Speaker_07
Jamie, who won?

03:07:25 Speaker_05
You know who had a really good post about this? Max Lugavere. He had a really good post. He goes, I'm not voting for Trump. I'm voting against all these things.

03:07:34 Speaker_05
He just listed a very clear and concise list of all the different things that are fucked up about this ideology that's being pushed today. For sure.

03:07:48 Speaker_05
The fucking censorship of it all is the thing that's the most spooky, because it's the only thing that's going to keep us from working our way out of this together.

03:07:55 Speaker_07
That and the war. Yeah, those two things. That and the ratcheting up tensions all over the globe.

03:08:00 Speaker_05
Yeah. Is a problem. Yeah. Well, he's the one who's saying he's going to try to stop all this shit. Let's hope. And if that's a reason to vote for someone, that should be the biggest reason to vote for someone.

03:08:12 Speaker_05
Get someone who wants to stop people killing people, number one. Get us out of these fucking international conflicts, number two. Make it so that we have our own oil and we have power here. We don't have to import foreign oil and prop up dictators.

03:08:26 Speaker_05
That all would be good. All that sounds good. It's like I don't hear the things that people keep saying he's saying. This will be the last time you get to vote. They're going to put you in camps. They're going to separate interracial relationships.

03:08:38 Speaker_07
The way to run against him was what I said. It's not saying he's Hitler. Here's where he's right, and here's where we can do it better. Yes. That's the way to run against them.

03:08:49 Speaker_05
That's how you're going to win, Tim.

03:08:50 Speaker_07
And they chose not.

03:08:51 Speaker_05
I'm going to back you. I'll get Peter Thiel. Well, you better think so. I'm coming to you for money, so you better... We're going to get you fitted with a nice suit. Thank you. I think you're more of a collar-open guy, though.

03:09:04 Speaker_07
Man of the people. Collar-open and just kind of like... Bro, you can't lose.

03:09:08 Speaker_05
Yeah. Gay Republican.

03:09:10 Speaker_07
You get so many people to jump over to the other side. I would go. I should be the governor of California. For sure. You could win. It's an actual good point.

03:09:17 Speaker_05
You could actually win that.

03:09:18 Speaker_07
It's a great point. No one likes that Newsom fellow. They don't trust him anymore. He got caught with his fucking mask off at the French Laundry. I will. I will either save the state or destroy it in five days.

03:09:29 Speaker_03
No, you'll fix it.

03:09:30 Speaker_07
But it's either or, and I think either one is fine.

03:09:33 Speaker_06
You're going to be a national hero.

03:09:34 Speaker_05
Yeah. And they're going to be screaming for you to be president. That's what's going to happen. Well, let's pray. You'll be the first Republican president since Arne. Makes sense. You're in. That's right. You're in.

03:09:42 Speaker_05
Or first Republican governor, rather, in California. That'd be huge. That's a good plan, because I could go from there and then right to the White House.

03:09:49 Speaker_07
And you're socially liberal, so the liberals won't feel bad voting for you. Right. To an extent, I'm socially liberal.

03:09:56 Speaker_05
To a pretty fuckin' wide extent.

03:09:58 Speaker_07
Yeah, to a wide extent. I do believe women should ask to leave the house. Like, I do have that... That's where I have that Islam thing. I do believe that.

03:10:08 Speaker_05
Permission's important.

03:10:09 Speaker_07
Permission's important.

03:10:10 Speaker_05
The fuckin' Sharia law thing is the craziest.

03:10:13 Speaker_07
Well, let's hope everybody's peaceful and happy.

03:10:15 Speaker_05
Yeah. Let's hope it's not all Handmaid's Tale in the future. Yeah. Thanks for being here, man. Thank you. It's always fun. Always. Thank you. You had some brilliant rants tonight, as always. No, thank you. I appreciate it.

03:10:26 Speaker_07
Where are you at? Where can people come see you? Tim Dillon Show on YouTube, timdilloncomedy.com, and the Mothership sold out, but I'll be there next week. Oh, you're there next week. Are you traveling around?

03:10:36 Speaker_07
Yeah, I mean, there's a few, you know, we just did a tour and, you know, we're kind of at the end of it, but we've got some dates in Canada. We're kind of at the end of the tour. You coming to clubs tonight? Uh, are you there? Yeah, yeah, come tonight.

03:10:45 Speaker_06
I'm doing the Ron White show. Okay, cool. All right.

03:10:48 Speaker_05
Talk soon. Thank you. Bye, everybody.