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Episode: 1st House Birth Chart Readings Livestream

Author: Chris Brennan
Duration: 02:20:00

Episode Shownotes

In episode 455 astrologer Chris Brennan does live chart readings with listeners to talk about the meaning of 1st house placements in their birth chart. This workshop was recorded a few weeks ago in preparation for the longer episode on the 1st house in astrology that was released last week,

titled The First House in Astrology: Planets in the Rising Sign. The purpose of the livestream was to gain a deeper understanding about what the first house means by interviewing some people with prominent 1st house placements about their life. During the course of the livestream we discuss some examples of people with planets in the first house, those who have the ruler of the Ascendant in different houses, and also some people who had major transits through the first house. I also put out a call for examples from Twitter/X, and read a number of examples that were sent in live at different points. By the end of the episode we ended up learning a lot about what the first house means by hearing about the lived experience of people with prominent placements involving that house in their chart. This episode is available in both audio and video versions below. Timestamps 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:05 1st house meaning 00:10:44 Mars in 1st house example 00:13:44 Mars in 1st house interview 00:28:29 Third Mars in 1st house example 00:31:10 Miscellaneous listener examples 00:36:52 Jupiter in 1st house interview 00:50:12 Saturn 1st house transit interview 00:59:33 Uranus & Pluto conjunct ASC transit 01:03:17 Uranus conjunct Ascendant transit 01:07:03 Miscellaneous examples 01:11:47 Eclipses in 1st house interview 01:19:34 Ruler of 4th house in 1st interview 01:33:01 Saturn transit in 1st house interview 01:49:01 Ruler of the Ascendant in houses 01:56:12 Ruler of Ascendant in 7th house interview 02:11:39 Final thoughts 02:16:43 Credits Watch the Video Version of This Episode Watch the video version of this episode on 1st house birth chart readings on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njdGDsHZvf8 - Transcript A full transcript of this episode is available: Episode 455 transcript Listen to the Audio Version of This Episode Listen to the audio version of this episode or download it as an MP3:

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Hey, my name is Chris Brennan, and you're listening to The Astrology Podcast.

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In this episode, I'm going to be talking about the First House in astrology and what it means and looking at some example charts of First House placements involving planets in the First House, the ruler of the First House, or even transits through the First House in order to get a sense for what the First House actually means and what it's all about.

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I'm recording it today with a live audience of patrons of The Astrology Podcast who signed up to support me through my work through my page on Patreon.

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I put out a call for examples of first house placements, both publicly in terms of Twitter and Facebook, and also privately in terms of different patrons.

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today, since I have a live audience of patrons, I'm going to be hopefully bringing a few of them on to talk about their first house placements, if they have a striking example, and then I'm also going to be reading and sharing some different examples that were sent in by people online.

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All right, so first things first, let's start with some preliminary stuff about the first house and what it means. So here is a diagram which shows the significations of each of the 12 houses.

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So there's only so many significations I can really fit on here because I can only fit like three or four core significations.

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So the four core significations for the first house that I have is that it represents the self, the body, the character, and the person's appearance. The first house is in whole sign houses, it's the rising sign.

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It's the sign that was rising up over the eastern horizon at the moment that you were born. This is the sign that's the most personally relevant to you as the individual who was born at that moment.

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And there's different houses in the chart that represent different people in our life or different areas of our life, but the first house is really the primary house that relates to you because the rising sign and the degree of the Ascendant, which is where the Sun rises up over the eastern horizon each morning,

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but especially the morning they were born. And just in the same way that the Sun and the other planets and stars rise up over the eastern horizon each day and are born as they emerge from under the Earth and move up into the sky and become visible,

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In the same way, each of us was born at a specific moment in time, and at that time we emerged into the world, and our body emerged into the physical world as separate from the body of our mother.

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So that's part of the symbolism with the first house, and that's part of the reason why it's so intimately connected to you as the person who was born at that moment, because of that same symbolism of the planets emerging over the eastern horizon at the rising sign at the same moment as you were born.

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So the first house as a result of that is the primary house in the chart that represents you and your sense of self and who you are. And sometimes that's kind of an abstract signification that doesn't make a lot of sense until

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you have a first house transit or you have eclipses going through your first house or something like that.

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And then all of a sudden, your sense of self and your sense of who you are becomes much more distinct as a factor in your life that you're focused on and that you're reflecting on when you're thinking about, who am I?

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What am I doing here in the world? And how am I showing up in the world to other people?

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because the first house is also the house that represents the body and the physical incarnation of the native in addition to their character or in ancient astrology, the spirit of the native.

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Because in whole sign houses, part of the first house is below the horizon under the earth, which represents the physical body.

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And the other part of the house is above the horizon in the sky, which represents the spirit or the psyche or the character of the individual.

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And of course, in the first house, those two realms are coming together so that you get this blending of both the spirit as well as the body of the individual.

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So some of the things that come up when it comes to the first house is your body, your health, but also your physical vitality. So sometimes there can be natal placements in the first house, and sometimes there can be certain people that just have

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good health naturally, or who have a strong physical constitution, or who don't get sick regularly, or in some instances where there's something particularly striking about their body and their physical incarnation that's beneficial or that's helpful to them that arises somehow naturally.

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So sometimes you'll see this, for example, if somebody has positive first house placements and if they're particularly physically attractive for some reason, or if there's something distinctive about their appearance.

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And in some instances, they're able to leverage that in order to bring about good things in their life. For example, let's say somebody who was a model or somebody who's able to use their physical appearance to their advantage in some way.

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So that's one scenario.

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Other scenarios in terms of the first house and the physical body is that sometimes, because it represents our physical health and constitution, if there's challenging placements with the first house, sometimes there can be health issues.

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So this can be the scenario where sometimes with these difficult placements, a person can have, let's say, either accidents or injuries that cause physical harm to the body, or in some instances, it can be issues with illness or issues with sickness or something like that that are

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hard to deal with when it comes to the body so that the person is having to focus on their health and having to focus on taking care of themselves or on counteracting the negative impacts of some health issue more regularly.

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So that's something that we'll see and that will come up in some of our chart examples as we start going through and talking about things.

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anybody has any specific examples of either of those two scenarios, please let me know in the comments or in the Q&A section, and maybe I can share that as an example. All right, so sometimes those can be

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natal placements, but other times we can be talking about transits, which can indicate the onset of something, either a good health period or a period where you're focused on your body and your physical health more, or in other instances, a difficult period where something negative or challenging comes up that you're forced to deal with or forced to wrestle with.

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So that's definitely a scenario that comes up that we all experience at some point in our life, whether we have a natural predisposition to having positive health placements or challenging health placements.

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All of us will eventually have some positive health placements or transits go through the first house,

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and all of us will have some challenging health placements go through the first house, and we'll experience the other side of that even if we don't have a natural predisposition for it because everybody eventually gets sick.

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Everyone eventually gets health issues or injuries at some point in their life when a difficult transit happens. And on the flip side of that, everybody also eventually goes through some period where they're feeling

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better vitality, where they're feeling good about living in their body for a period of time, or in which case, sometimes when a person is dealing with health issues, sometimes they'll meet a doctor or they'll find a new way to fix that issue or to offset it.

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And sometimes that can be represented by positive transits going through the first house when something difficult is being mitigated or is being addressed in some way. So that can be also important to pay attention to.

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So in the live chat, Dawn says, I had a first house perfection year involving a first house Mars and transiting Mars, and I had surgery for a malignant tumor. So that's a really good example, both because

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there's both a natal placement there as well as a transiting placement, and having both of those get activated in some way, and then having a health issue arise.

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So there was another person, I think on Twitter, who said that they had had six or seven surgeries or something like that, and they had Mars in the first house in a day chart.

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So sometimes surgeries can definitely be a Mars-related thing just because Mars involves cutting or severing. And sometimes though that cutting or severing can be necessary if it's a surgery in order to fix something that's gone wrong.

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But nonetheless, it's still getting represented by Mars in some way because it represents literally a sort of cutting into the body in order to attempt to fix something. So I might come back around to that example.

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Let me actually check those examples and see if I can find that one. So this one came in from Twitter where I put out a call for examples, and this is a person named Snare on Twitter. They said, I have a Libra Mars in the first house.

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I've had four major surgeries and at least three minor ones. I had my first two major surgeries when I was 19. That was a Venus-ruled year that activated my Mars. And in the chart itself, we can see

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they have Libra rising and Mars in Libra in the first house in a day chart. So in that instance, it's manifested literally in having to have a bunch of different surgeries as something that's kind of distinctive about the life.

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and I asked what the surgeries were for and they said they were for a c-section, several cystectomies, laparoscopies, ophorectomy, lumpectomy, and a choronectomy. So

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That's a really good example just because there's some people that never have a single surgery in their life, let's say in one extreme scenario, versus there might be somebody else who has comparatively a lot of surgeries where there have been a lot of instances where their body needs to be cut into for some reason.

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this would be one of those instances where Mars, the planet of suffering and separation, is in the first house, which is the house that has to do with the physical body.

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And sometimes it can be as literal as that, but that also opens it up because then we can take from that a broader point about

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Mars indicating suffering and separation, and how that might manifest in literal ways if you put it in other houses in the chart. Like in the second house, it could be a suffering or separation that has to do with the person's money or finances.

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In the fourth house, it might have to do with the person's parents or living situation. In the seventh house, it might have to do with relationships. Or in the 10th house, it might have to do with their career. So

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That's one of the things we're going to be doing in this series and that I try to do for the most part in my approach to astrology is sometimes look at things very simply and very literally in order to understand what the symbolism is.

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So that doesn't mean that the placements can't also relate more broadly to things relating to a person's character or psyche or how they go about acting in the world or other things like that, but it means that we have to be open to and we have to try to identify on the most core fundamental level what is the most literal way that this symbolism can manifest in a person's life as well at the same time.

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So Aaron in the live chat says, that chart looks similar to mine in many ways. I've had a few surgeries myself, also kind of hilarious.

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To track Mars transits to my Ascendant degree, the last time I started a new series of allergy shots, the last time I cut my hand pretty severely chopping veggies, and the time before I caught an electric shock while replacing the smoke detectors in my home, it almost knocked me off the ladder.

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That's a really good example. So let's do that one. That might be a good example. If you feel like sharing it, Aaron, do you want to join me just to share your chart for, for a moment? Hey, thanks for joining me.

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Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me.

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All right, so here's your chart. And for those listening to the audio version, so we have a chart with two degrees of Libra rising. Mars is at 25 degrees of Libra in the first house. It's conjunct Pluto at 19 degrees of Libra.

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This is a day chart with the Sun and Leo in the 11th whole sign house, and the ruler of the Ascendant is Venus, which is at 13 degrees of Cancer in the 10th house. How has that Mars placement manifested for you in literal ways?

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You said you've had some accidents and injuries over the past several years when that becomes activated.

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Yeah, that's, yeah, there's lots of ways, but that's one thing that I found, yeah, pretty funny to track is Mars going over my Ascendant degree.

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I noticed pretty early on in my astrology studies, I think it was the time that I basically electrocuted myself on the ladder. I was like, oh my gosh, that's not good when Mars goes over my Ascendant for me.

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So Mars conjoined your Ascendant and then you like seriously electrocuted yourself?

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Yeah, I mean, nonfatal, obviously, because I'm still here. But yeah, I caught a good shock. I thought I had turned off. I thought I had flipped the breaker.

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I flipped the breaker for the room that I was working in, but apparently all the smoke detectors have are on their own separate breaker which I didn't realize. So that's how I learned that.

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Yeah, and then the next time I cut my hands pretty badly chopping vegetables, and I think it was like the day after. like conjoined by ascendant. Exactly. So it was like moving away. I don't know. I guess I thought I was okay with a knife. I wasn't.

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And then this last time really the most constructive.

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How badly did you cut yourself? Was it, were you like bleeding?

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Oh yeah. I should have probably gone and got stitches or glue. I didn't cause it was like a Sunday and I didn't want to go to the ER. I didn't want to pay for that. So, I mean, I get, that's probably part of being a Mars Pluto person too. I'm a survivor.

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I'm just like bandaged up. Stop chopping my veg.

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And just power through.

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Power through it. That's exactly right. And then, yeah, I've had allergies my entire life.

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And I was just thinking about the first time I did allergy shots, I was like, I started at 11 and I'm sure it went, you know, we did it for like a couple of years. It definitely went through a first house perfection for me.

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And more recently I realized like where I'm living is probably just not the best choice for me but I also don't have an option to move right now. So, I'm just really allergic to where I'm living, so I'm doing more allergy shots.

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And that was the last time that Mars went over my ascendant, to the day, just happened to be. I didn't plan it that way, but that happened to be the date for my first shot for this series of allergy shots that I'm doing now.

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So then you said you first developed those allergies or realized you had them when you were 11?

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Um, well, I think I knew, or my parents knew to some extent, basically my whole life that I had quite a few allergies, food and environmental.

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Um, but yeah, I had a bout when I was 11, where I like broke out in full body hives, couldn't keep anything in my stomach. Um, and that's like when I ended up actually allergist.

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Got it. So it was like a, um, physical reaction all over your skin of like irritation.

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Yeah, it was a really severe reaction. Like, I was bright red everywhere, basically. Everywhere was inflamed, itching. Yeah, and inside my stomach, too, apparently. I just couldn't keep it any...

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Yeah, redness and inflammation are two really core Mars terms that we'll see come up a lot, like over and over again for different people when it comes to its placement, like anywhere in the chart, just importing those qualities.

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So you started having to get shots and what is involved in that or why is it a shot? Because I know like some people for allergies, it's like they take some Benadryl and that's it. But what's the shot? What's with that?

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Yeah, yeah, I take that drill every day. Like, basically the shots are supposed to

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get your, because allergy is basically what it is, is your immune system freaking out at dust, pollen, being like, oh my gosh, we're being invaded when actually it's fine.

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So it's like you're reacting to yourself, which I think is a very Mars in detriment in the first, and the shots are supposed to basically desensitize you. to the allergens.

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So like the more you're exposed to it, hopefully the less you'll react to it in the wild is the idea. But yeah, injections and needles and puncturing of course is how you go about it. And like right now I'm getting four shots a week.

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So I go in and I get two in one arm and two in the other. And like, yeah, I just have bruises most of the time on arms. This is just my life now. And I'm like, wow, that's really appropriate for Mars in Libra in the first, I think.

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Yeah, just getting shots and having a piercing of the body is also just very fitting in terms of the symbolism as well.

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Yeah. And that's funny that you say that, because I've had a lot of piercings in my life. That's just something that I enjoyed doing in my younger years.

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And I also danced for a really long time from the ages of three to 18 and really kind of messed up my ankles through doing that. So I think that's pretty appropriate for Mars and Libra in the first year.

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Um, and then more recently, um, I sustained a pretty serious head injury. And I was thinking about that and I was like, that's Mars in the first year too, isn't it? So, um, yeah, I have to, I have to be careful with my.

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health because I feel like I am sort of prone to that sort of thing. And then there's, yeah, there's a lot of other expressions of what it, you know, how it's expressed itself in my life and my relationships being the ruler, the seven of spades.

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Yeah, I was actually going to ask that.

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If that is a good example, I was just curious because since Mars is ruling the seventh house of relationships, and it's also ruling the second house of finances, and it's in your first house of self, I was curious how that manifested and if that manifested in some literal way.

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It totally has, and I'm fine with talking about it. I feel like my life is a bit of a trigger warning, so maybe I should put that out there. But yeah, I grew up in a household where my parents had a dysfunctional relationship dynamic themselves.

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It was pretty codependent, and there was some abuse going on. And so basically, I learned that same relationship dynamic. I think you see this maybe some too with Mars Overcoming. the moon in the fourth house, which is also in detriment there.

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And I experienced my father especially is very controlling, which I think you see that with that Pluto. And as I grew older, I found myself falling into the same relationship dynamics with men. And, you know, there was domestic violence.

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which thankfully I got out of. And it's like, it's funny, cause I like get in these situations, but I always survive them. And I guess I credit that to my strong Venus in the tent, maybe that Mars is conjunct.

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Spica also is helpful, I'm not sure, but I always like seem to survive them and get out of them somehow. But Pluto actually squaring my Mars. like brought a lot of change and healing, I would say to my relationship dynamics.

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So I feel to some extent, at least on the other side, but it's definitely played out, you know, in every way that you would probably guess by looking at that.

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Yeah, it's complicated.

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And my relationship I think with the masculine in general has been complicated throughout my life because of my dad. And, you know, it's funny because like I look the most like my dad of my two parents.

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And so then there's like the whole self and other thing. It's like, I look like him, but I don't want to be like him. And just the comp, you know, the complicated nature of a planet in just in detriment, especially.

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That's brilliant. Yeah. Like how do you deal with looking like the person that you don't necessarily want to look like and how you reflect on that in terms of your sense of self and like who you are.

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Right. Yeah.

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That's really interesting. Balance things out. What are some of the positive things from your Mars placement? It sounds like when you were younger that you were very physically active.

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I know Mars in the first house can be sometimes people that have a lot of vitality or energy in some instances. I also noticed that Mars is very closely sextile your Mercury.

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So you probably have a more direct manner of communication, which is also something that sometimes people at Mars in the first house have in general. I'm not sure how Libra is offsetting it.

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Yeah, it's interesting. I'm sort of a ballsy Venusian, I guess, in a way. Yeah, that really tight Mercury-Mars textile. I'm very difficult to win an argument against.

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um you know growing up my dad was like you need to be a lawyer because you're impossible to argue with like yes no um and so there's that and yeah i i do have a lot of energy i find i have a tremendous amount of energy um i did actually basically go too hard and burn myself out in like 2017 basically suffer from adrenal fatigue and i have to recover from that

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So that was a good lesson learned for me. But I said, like, I do have a lot of energy and I find I have a lot of willpower when I really put my mind to something like it's going to happen. It's going to happen. It's just sort of the way I am.

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And I think I've taken that for granted a lot in my life and less so now. I now recognize sort of how unique that is. And in, you know, I don't guess a dance song for fun, but I recently taken up like more sporty things like

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kickboxing and weightlifting, which I didn't really think that I would like before, but found that I really love and makes me feel amazing afterwards. And I think it's an incredible outlet for Mars.

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So I think that it burned me a lot more before I really realized or learned I'm in my forties. So, I mean, I've had a lot of time to build experience and how to work and how to you know, make it work for me, I guess, as best as I can.

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It's interesting, I haven't had near like the problems with money that I have with relationships. That seems to go better in my life, but I'm very independent of my finances. I have never had a joint bank account with anyone. even when I was married.

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I'm just like, no, my money's mine and yours is yours. So that's just, that's probably helped me, I would guess, like not get in situations where money becomes a real problem.

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But yeah, that's kind of interesting with Uranus there at the same time. And there's like this like independent streak to how you deal with finances, which is something that Mars and Uranus can share to some extent.

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Yeah.

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Nice. Well, that's a great example. And I really liked that. your point about like channeling it into those sporty or athletic type things, especially recently.

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And that seems like good advice for everybody, like whatever their placement is to find ways that are symbolically similar to that placement that are like constructive manifestations of it.

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And I think when a person does that, it can be really useful for like letting off steam sort of in an area of the chart where otherwise you might have a lot of energy building up and that could be like,

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having too much steam or too much energy, but sometimes when you give it an outlet, that can creatively express something that could otherwise be a little bit more difficult.

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Yeah, absolutely. I think that's right. I think Mars Pluto especially can be, and there are good things about it, I think we're kind of hard to kill. We you know, have a lot of energy and have a lot of stores of energy, but it can be explosive.

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So yeah, I think having like a pressure release valve is sort of the key.

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Totally. All right. Awesome. This is a great example. Thank you so much for sharing this. I appreciate it. Awesome. That was a great example.

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Does anybody have an example like that with, let's say, benefic placement or other first house placements that might be relevant? Let me know in the comments, because I'm following the live chat right now.

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So this was sent in by Janae Anthony on Twitter, who said, I have Mars and Leo conjunct the Ascendant. At about age 11 was the onset of my chronic uveitis, inflammation of the eyes.

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Over the years, the inflammation led to scar tissue developing, and it's this scarring that led to my loss of vision. Very diurnal Mars conjunct the Ascendant.

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Also, when I was in my first house year, I had a very stressful last-minute move at the same time that I was starting grad school, Mars as the ruler of the 4th house and the 9th house in the 1st. And here's the chart.

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So Janae has 14 Leo rising and Mars is at 20 degrees of Leo in the 1st house in the day chart. So this is a good example.

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I believe Janae is actually the current, recently became the new president of the Association for Young Astrologers, which is actually really awesome, or the new chair of the Association for Young Astrologers.

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I think Janae is legally blind, so this is a good example, again, of a first house inflammation type scenario that's connected to the body.

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And there may be different ways that you can narrow down the area or the body parts or different things like that.

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But just generally speaking, it's a good example because, again, it shows different ways that Mars and that tendency to symbolically bring heat or inflammation or other things like that can manifest sometimes in very literal ways.

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So there's other things that are relevant about that. that maybe I can talk to Janae about later at some point.

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So that's one aspect of things that we have to pay attention to with the first house is just the physicality of the body and that sometimes challenging placements or transits can indicate that a person struggles with or that there are things that a person has to deal with that relate to the physical body that are maybe not preferable or not things that they would like to deal with.

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nonetheless, that's the area of life where they have some challenges or some struggles.

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And it's good to be aware of the full range of possible manifestations and the full spectrum when it comes to that, both in terms of positive things as well as challenging things. So in terms of positive placements, in my

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of this is reminding me that I had two friends. I had two friends when I was younger when I first started studying astrology, and they were born relatively close apart.

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Both of them had Scorpio rising, and both of them had Mars and Saturn in Scorpio in the first whole sign house, but one of them had a day chart and one of them had a night chart.

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And the one with the day chart was constantly bumping into things and getting small injuries or small cuts and getting little accidents and Mars-related things like that.

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Whereas the other one with the night chart, so that Saturn was more difficult, they were anemic. They struggled with Saturn-related ailments of being too cold or slowing down.

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and eventually dealt with cancer, which is more of a Saturn type sort of ailment as well at the same time.

00:32:14 Speaker_00
So sometimes first house planets and other things can relate to the physical types of challenges that can arise in a person's life in a very literal way. All right, let me see some of the other comments that have come in.

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So Maggie said they had an example that involved hives. Okay, that's good. Alyssa said, gave birth to my son in a first house year and a Jupiter return.

00:32:40 Speaker_00
That can definitely be like a big like body related change that would make sense when it comes to the first house. Carly says, wow, at age 11, 12th house perfection year and eye inflammation. The unseen, very literal. Okay.

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Samantha says, can Mars represent movement? I have Mars in the first and my parents divorced when I was young, so I was back and forth a lot. So I did abroad and toured country for five summers. Yeah, potentially. I mean, especially the

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separation of the parents sometimes when you have planets in the 1st or the 7th, especially because one of the things that happens is that planets in the 1st, especially if they're close to conjunct the Ascendant, that automatically means that they're opposing the degree of the Descendant, which can sometimes bring in 7th house things at the same time.

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That's also true of the 4th house and the 10th house, that sometimes planets in the 1st house

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If there's planets in the 4th or the 10th, they can be closely aspected by the 1st house planet, so sometimes it can be indicating issues that are arising in connection with those houses.

00:33:52 Speaker_00
So Jeannie says, I have a condition of the skin that's completely in my first house in my chart. I have Saturn and Uranus in the first house in Sagittarius. The condition is so weird that doctors can't even pronounce it.

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Very Uranian in nature and Saturn ruling the skin and a boundary between our insides and the outside worlds. It's called hydrate dentis super rot tiva. is the closest I can get to print announcing that. That's really interesting. Yeah.

00:34:19 Speaker_00
That brings up a good point about Uranus that sometimes when Uranus is in the first house, there's something unique or something weird or something out of the ordinary about either our body and physical constitution or sometimes it's something about our character.

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Because that's the other thing we have to remember is even though we're talking about physical first house placements and ailments to the body with the first house.

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The first house is also the primary house that relates to a person's character and psyche, and sometimes placements in the first house can manifest through the psychology of the native and the way that they approach the world and the way that they approach other people in the world.

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So sometimes Uranus in the 1st house, it can be something about the way the person acts. Although in this instance, this is a literal manifestation again. So Megan says, Jupiter just passed over my Ascendant Sun conjunction.

00:35:16 Speaker_00
I gained weight almost overnight. Yeah, there was a few people that mentioned that. There was another person that mentioned Jupiter going through their 1st house and they said that they

00:35:27 Speaker_00
Well, there's some that said they gained a lot of weight, and then there's other people that had Saturn go through their first house, and one of them said that they lost 30 pounds.

00:35:36 Speaker_00
So the body and especially weight and things related to weight, either gaining weight or losing weight can be represented by either placements in the first house or first house transits especially.

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especially since all of us go through different weight fluctuations at different points in our life.

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Although there can be different reasons that we have wild weight fluctuations, especially for example, sometimes Saturn going through the first can be like getting sick or something and losing weight as a result of that.

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That's a very common manifestation of first house transits that are commonly mentioned, and sometimes you can use that for rectification purposes. If you're trying to narrow down a person's rising sign, look at a period

00:36:30 Speaker_00
Recently, if Saturn went through the first house and asked not just about potential health issues during that time, but also about did you lose weight for some reason during that time, during that two to three-year period?

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And sometimes if the answer is yes, it means that Saturn was transiting through their first house at that time. Okay. I mean, that's a pretty good positive one. Brenda says Jupiter on Regulus about five degrees from my Ascendant degree.

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I'm an optimistic, hopeful and helpful person have been told that I'm inspirational. I also like food and have been have to be careful not to overeat. Um, do you feel like sharing that example and just talking for maybe a few minutes, Brenda?

00:37:17 Speaker_00
Hey, thanks for joining me.

00:37:19 Speaker_01
Thank you.

00:37:21 Speaker_00
What's your birth data?

00:37:24 Speaker_01
6, 13, 68. All right.

00:37:27 Speaker_00
Is your Ascendant 24, Leah?

00:37:29 Speaker_01
It is.

00:37:31 Speaker_00
Cool. All right. Here's your chart. you have 24 Leo rising, you have Jupiter at 29 degrees of Leo, and you have the Sun in Gemini in the 11th whole sign house conjunct Mars.

00:37:48 Speaker_00
The chart's actually funny because it reminds me of another one that has similar but inverted placements, which is

00:37:58 Speaker_00
Yeah, which is this Trump's chart basically is lately arising with Mars conjunct the Ascendant, which characterizes his personality, but you have a very different manifestation of that. You have Leo rising with Jupiter conjunct the Ascendant.

00:38:13 Speaker_00
So you said that people described you in what way again?

00:38:17 Speaker_01
Inspirational. I'm a physical therapist, so I'm always helping people with their physical ailments and

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And also just with my life experiences, just kind of coming from a challenging situation and always kind of finding the light to follow and the path out of some negative situation, whether it's my own or someone else's, just always looking for the hope.

00:38:43 Speaker_00
So that notion of like hope or optimism is just like a core part of your personality and it's something that you kind of like radiate outward onto others.

00:38:54 Speaker_01
Yeah, yeah. Before I knew anything about astrology, I was known for saying, if you have hope, you have everything. And so just kind of feeling like that's, that's the answer to almost any situation is just feeling like you can, you can change it.

00:39:11 Speaker_01
And tomorrow's another day and it'll get better. And yeah.

00:39:15 Speaker_00
I love that. Where, where does that come from? Or where did, at what point did that start in terms of your early life?

00:39:22 Speaker_01
I think I just always had that feeling about life in general, but I did have a challenging childhood. And, uh, I think on paper or, um, from an external sort of viewpoint, people might've thought that I might not succeed.

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And in fact, I have a doctoral degree. I have my own business. I'm doing quite well, but, um, you know, there were times in my life where it didn't look so positive and, um, but I just always knew that it would be okay.

00:39:48 Speaker_01
And, uh, yeah, I just kept moving forward.

00:39:53 Speaker_00
did you get into physical therapy and helping people in terms of that?

00:39:58 Speaker_01
Yeah, I knew I always wanted to be helpful, just innately wanted to do that. And I knew medicine was a good way to do it. But I really like helping people to help themselves.

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And so instead of being kind of a passive medical practitioner, I wanted to do something where I was actively engaging and helping people to learn how to help themselves. And so physical therapy is

00:40:22 Speaker_01
Perfect for that I'm also a pretty physical person and so I like activity and so I, I just liked taking knowledge, applying it to the body and doing it a non invasive sort of way with an empowering sort of mindset behind it all.

00:40:40 Speaker_00
That makes sense. And that's actually your optimism or instilling hope.

00:40:45 Speaker_00
That's actually necessary in physical therapy because you have to do a lot of like encouraging and like trying to give people the internal like motivation to do something that's hard to physically.

00:40:55 Speaker_01
Absolutely. Absolutely. You're taking someone that's painful and scared and you're showing them, you know, how to, how to change that and how to move away from that situation into, you know, fully functional, happy, sort of

00:41:09 Speaker_01
physically active lifestyle again, reclaiming function. So yeah, just it fits perfectly. It's like hand in glove. It's the perfect profession for me. And I get to do it daily.

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I just get to have that same moment over and over and over again where I reach out and I take someone that's in a challenge situation and I help them. So it's a beautiful expression of, I guess, my soul's purpose. I don't know, but yeah, I love it.

00:41:35 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's brilliant. How has your physical health been?

00:41:39 Speaker_01
I'm good. Yeah, I mean, I do. Oh, I do think this ties in. So you see that Jupiter rules my eighth house and I was diagnosed with melanoma several years ago during eighth house perfection year. So, you know, Jupiter with that growth, I think that

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might have been a reflection. And then it was my fifth house and I am very fertile. I could have lots of children. So yeah. And then I do have good luck with a partner's money. So it shows up in other places too in my chart where Jupiter is. CB.

00:42:15 Speaker_00
Right. With the melanoma, you caught it early though so that it didn't develop?

00:42:19 Speaker_01
BT. Exactly. It was actually my husband that caught it. And yeah, it was And it's a thing of the past, you know, it's been several years. I think it was 2013 or 14 or something like that, that I caught in it was still stage one. So yeah.

00:42:37 Speaker_01
But yeah, that, that sort of, uh, an unchecked growth that maybe Jupiter could be known for, um, and Jupiter ruling that eighth house of death.

00:42:47 Speaker_00
Yeah.

00:42:47 Speaker_00
Well, that was something that came up also in the Jupiter and Taurus episode when there were some people that were having first house transits where sometimes something bad was coming up health-wise, but then they were able to catch it early enough or they were able to get medical treatment for it so that it became something that they were able to survive and heal from as opposed to, let's say, the worst-case scenarios.

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Imagine that you don't catch something until it's too late or you're not able to get help with it for some reason.

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Whereas this is like the opposite scenario, like imagining, in your case, a scenario where somebody is actually kind of fortunate that when something potentially life-threatening did come up, with it being the ruler of the eighth house, that you were actually able to catch it early enough that it wasn't able to grow and turn into something that actually shortened your life.

00:43:45 Speaker_01
Absolutely. And my husband also has Jupiter in his first house, and he's the one that found it for me. So I don't know if there's some sinister sort of Jupiter help, but definitely I'm all good.

00:43:58 Speaker_00
What's his rising sign?

00:44:00 Speaker_01
He has a Libra rising.

00:44:02 Speaker_00
Okay. Just curious. Does he share the same sense of optimism that you have?

00:44:08 Speaker_01
Yeah, yeah, he totally does. In fact, I think he might even be more optimistic. Our children, our children always laugh about both of our optimism.

00:44:15 Speaker_01
1 example is he just always completely over or underestimates how long it'll take to get somewhere in the car. He'll say, we'll be in the car for a few hours.

00:44:25 Speaker_01
It'll be something more like 5. so the kids just know to, you know, take it with a grain of salt because dad's always going to be over overly optimistic about about that.

00:44:37 Speaker_00
Right. That's really funny. That's brilliant. I'm trying to think of any other questions, but that's a great example because it's describing physical things.

00:44:49 Speaker_00
It's also describing what you ended up doing for work to some extent, but then also describing your demeanor and your character to some extent as well as very much encapsulated by that placement

00:45:03 Speaker_00
So you really get all of the different layers of the first house.

00:45:08 Speaker_01
Yeah, I feel really lucky and grateful that I got that. I mean, there's lots of other things in my truck that aren't so great, but thank God I have Jupiter there.

00:45:16 Speaker_00
Sure, yeah. Everybody has some area where they have challenges and some area where they're just kind of lucky. I'm glad you used that term, lucky, because I think that's a good way sometimes to frame it in terms of fortune and chance.

00:45:32 Speaker_00
Sometimes there's things that are outside of our control, that it can go either way. But sometimes being able to see and acknowledge those areas can be really important.

00:45:43 Speaker_00
And sometimes with the first house, though, it's also nice that you have awareness of that because otherwise it's like sometimes people tend to take for granted the things that are good in their life. Or sometimes when

00:45:59 Speaker_00
good thing is something that's arising from within you that you're actually doing or putting out there in the world.

00:46:05 Speaker_00
You don't always necessarily recognize that as a positive thing, but in your instance, it's really clear that you do and really clear that that is a beneficial thing.

00:46:14 Speaker_01
Yeah, absolutely. I think it's important to acknowledge the beautiful things in life as well as the challenging things in life and really hold on to those things.

00:46:21 Speaker_01
Everything changes and sometimes we have those wonderful moments and embrace them and cherish them, but recognize that know, there'll be negative moments too, but that too will pass. So yeah, embrace it all.

00:46:34 Speaker_00
Yeah. So last two questions. Um, how many children do you have with that ruling or fifth house?

00:46:40 Speaker_01
I have three and, um, they actually, I started really early. So basically from my adult life from 19 on, I've had children in my house. So they're absolutely a huge part of my daily existence. Um, so, you know,

00:46:57 Speaker_01
I have a 36-year-old and I have a 16-year-old, so children, lots of children, lots of impact in my life. CB.

00:47:07 Speaker_00
Would you say that that's also been a fortunate area of your life?

00:47:09 Speaker_01
RM. Absolutely. Absolutely. CB.

00:47:12 Speaker_00
Okay. That's really important as well. So the ruler of the fifth is the most positive planet in the chart and it's in the first and then because it's in the first, that's probably also and because you've had children for

00:47:25 Speaker_00
most of the entirety of your adult life, that's probably also informed some ways that you are in terms of your own personality and things like that, I would assume, right? CB.

00:47:36 Speaker_01
Absolutely. It's an intrinsic part of who I am, my realities, my children.

00:47:43 Speaker_00
Got it. Okay. So that seems good. And those are good little teaching tools that it's reminding me of here.

00:47:50 Speaker_00
Just having a planet in the first house, whatever houses it rules will tend to become more prominent in the person's life for better or worse, in your case for the better. And then the last one is

00:48:04 Speaker_00
because it's also ruling the eighth house, you mentioned in passing that you've had positive things as a result of the partner's finances. Could you explain what you meant by that?

00:48:14 Speaker_01
I'm very lucky. My husband's a physician. And so just monetarily, I'm lucky, not only from my own, my own work, my own business, but he has his own business. And so there's a lot of financial support from my husband.

00:48:30 Speaker_01
And then I did go to school taking out a bunch of student loans and I had a lot of access to other people's money in the form of loans. So yeah, I just, that house is pretty easy for me as well. I'm hoping for an easy death.

00:48:48 Speaker_00
Nice. And then have you ever had any like inheritances or anything like that?

00:48:53 Speaker_01
I have not had that so far. It's been more from my partner. Yeah.

00:48:58 Speaker_00
All right. Just wanted to go through the list of like different check, you know, check, check boxes. Awesome. Well, this is really cool. Thank you so much for sharing that example. I appreciate it. All right. Take care. All right. That was great.

00:49:20 Speaker_00
So yeah, it's good to alternate and look at different examples and different manifestations.

00:49:25 Speaker_00
And that's the whole point of all of this is as astrologers, we have to explore the entire spectrum of different human experiences and especially sometimes try to establish the extremes and then move inwards from there and figure out what the different shades of gray are in between.

00:49:50 Speaker_00
But it's cool sometimes when you can establish that and then really start to articulate some very fundamental things just based on very basic building blocks.

00:50:00 Speaker_00
And then from there, you can make things a little bit more complicated, but it's important to start with the very basics. All right, so I'm back from break. I would like to talk a little bit about Saturn examples.

00:50:15 Speaker_00
So we've done Mars, we've done Jupiter. I'd like to do a Saturn example. And I think, Aaron, you had one involving braces. Would you be up for joining me on camera right now?

00:50:31 Speaker_00
So this is a transiting example instead of a natal example, but I think it still could be a good one. There we go. Hey, thanks for joining me.

00:50:41 Speaker_02
Hi, thanks for having me.

00:50:44 Speaker_00
Yeah. What's your birth data?

00:50:47 Speaker_02
It's 9th of May, 2002.

00:50:50 Speaker_00
And your ascendant is one degree of Pisces? Yes. Cool. All right. So let me show the chart. we go. So one degree of Pisces. And you said that when Saturn moved into your first house last year, when it moves into Pisces, that you got braces?

00:51:09 Speaker_02
Yeah, I think it was around like August, late August that I got my braces. And I think it's like a very Saturnian because from what I know, it kind of like rules the teeth and the bones. And I'm having it for like another year. And now it's like,

00:51:27 Speaker_02
mid Pisces. So I'll have it for like throughout the whole Pisces transit. So I think that's like a very good Saturn example in my opinion.

00:51:37 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's perfect. So what what led to that? Or what caused that? What did the doctors like? How did how did the situation arise?

00:51:46 Speaker_02
Honestly, it's just been one of my own goals to like, improve my appearance. And I guess I just thought of another example. The same week that I got my braces, I also got a perm for my hair, which made it curly.

00:52:03 Speaker_02
So I was like on a journey to improve my appearance and my health. And I guess the brace is more the health part, but yeah.

00:52:12 Speaker_00
Nice. So yeah, so just sort of like transformations when it comes to body and health and appearance.

00:52:18 Speaker_00
And the braces thing though is perfect in terms of the timing since like you said, you'll have that from the start of that transit to essentially the end of that transit since Saturn is going to go into Aries next year.

00:52:32 Speaker_02
Yeah. And it's actually the same. Sorry, yeah.

00:52:39 Speaker_00
Go ahead.

00:52:40 Speaker_02
The same week that I got my perm and my braces, I also got a job. So I think maybe the tent house kind of is like activated in that way. Sure.

00:52:53 Speaker_00
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you have so many, um, Gemini placements as well. And so many fourth and 10th house placements at the same time that some of that would have been activated as well.

00:53:07 Speaker_00
And then with the braces, that's something that has like a routine as well, in terms of like things you need to do to like maintain it. Right.

00:53:15 Speaker_02
Every like three to four weeks, I have to go to an appointment. I have to take extra care of my teeth at home.

00:53:23 Speaker_02
And it's funny that you mentioned the fourth house because I got the job because of my sister, because she was a manager there and I got it because of her. And now at my job, it's like a Pilates studio.

00:53:35 Speaker_02
So I just recently like also started doing Pilates to improve my spine and my posture, which is both for like aesthetics, but also for my health, which is like related to my job as well. And it's like appearance, job and family in a way.

00:53:53 Speaker_02
but also the benefit of like the Jupiter ruling or the benefit of like getting this thing like opportunity from my workplace that is like health related and like, I guess, Saturnian with like the spine and the teeth and everything.

00:54:10 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's a really good point because both bones are associated with Saturn, but also the teeth.

00:54:17 Speaker_00
And that's a really common thing that comes up with Saturn transits is things involving either of those, as well as things where you're correcting something, but it takes a long extended period of time to correct it rather than something that's just done once and quickly.

00:54:35 Speaker_02
Yes, that's very true.

00:54:41 Speaker_00
Okay. Well, that's a good and pretty straightforward example.

00:54:44 Speaker_00
So it'll be interesting to see when Saturn goes into Aries and departs from Pisces as you emerge from this period and have been transformed by that physically in different ways as well as to another extent mentally because there's also can be a period of

00:55:02 Speaker_00
you know, having to change the way that you're approaching things mentally and needing to develop better habits can be like a common first house Saturn transit experience.

00:55:14 Speaker_02
Definitely. Definitely. Because I feel like the Saturn transiting my first house has helped me in a lot of ways to be more consistent.

00:55:21 Speaker_02
And I think the braces was just like the first step because like now I can actually maintain proper dental hygiene and working out a couple times a week and being organized in other ways and more dedicated and determined and all of that.

00:55:34 Speaker_00
CB Yeah.

00:55:36 Speaker_00
Well, one of the things that happens is it's like when we have those Saturn transits, especially through the angular houses, and especially if a person already has Saturn angular, it's like you go through those periods of focusing on those things and that being heightened, and then you'll go through a several year period of Saturn

00:55:55 Speaker_00
going through other houses in which you'll have to really test and see if you can keep up the regularity and the focus and determination you had when the Saturn transit was at its most intense.

00:56:09 Speaker_00
And then eventually, seven years later, when it gets to the next mutable sign for you, which will be your Saturn return, that'll be the check-in period where you see if you've been able to keep up that momentum and that progress.

00:56:23 Speaker_00
And if you did, then you, you graduate and move on to the next level versus if you don't, then sometimes you have to go back and do things over again. Um, so yeah, that's really good example. Thanks a lot for, for sharing that.

00:56:36 Speaker_02
Yeah, no worries. But, um, I just remembered my thought actually, uh, like the Saturn, uh, squaring, like my, uh, like fourth house stuff and, was like when I got my braces like August last year and I could not speak for like two weeks straight.

00:56:54 Speaker_02
I don't know if that's like related to transits or not.

00:56:59 Speaker_00
Yeah, totally. I mean, Saturn not being able to speak and being physically withheld from doing something is a very Saturn because Saturn's primary meaning and signification oftentimes is it negates things and it says no or stop to something.

00:57:15 Speaker_00
So having it say no or stop to speech or communication is pretty perfect, especially since you have like a Mercury-Saturn conjunction natally. And so that's part of what would have been getting activated by Saturn squaring that.

00:57:30 Speaker_02
Yeah, and I still have that because there's like an arch going across my palate, so I can't touch my tongue.

00:57:37 Speaker_02
like on the roof so it still affects my speech but I've gone through a lot of like speech therapy this year to help with that because I used to speak like properly and faster but now I have to slow down so I can enunciate my words but until I get that off and then my braces off I cannot speak so maybe for the next year my speech is like affected but yeah I just wanted to share that.

00:57:58 Speaker_00
That's perfect. I love that. That's such a great manifestation of that and just the activation of those placements. But then also with Venus there offsetting things, you have a lot of good offsetting things at the same time.

00:58:12 Speaker_00
So there's like a temporary, surmountable difficulty that's come up that stopped you from speaking, but it's something where through great effort and striving and determination, you're able to overcome it, which was a common Saturn transit experience.

00:58:28 Speaker_00
Yeah, definitely.

00:58:29 Speaker_02
And I'd love to share my fourth house stories with you one day, because there's a lot of them.

00:58:33 Speaker_00
Yeah, well, I definitely maybe when we get to the fourth house, yours would be a good example, because I'm hoping to do a series where we go through each of the houses. And I'll definitely I'll remember your Gemini stellium. Yeah, definitely. Cool.

00:58:46 Speaker_00
All right. Well, thanks for joining me.

00:58:47 Speaker_02
Thanks for having me.

00:58:49 Speaker_00
All right. That was great. So now we've done some Saturn. I think that was really

00:58:58 Speaker_00
good as a contrast because we've already seen now the different types of things that come up with Saturn in terms of slowing down things, in terms of stopping things, in terms of needing to exercise or build something up slowly are great Saturn themes that can manifest both in terms of a natal placement with Saturn there or in terms of a Saturn transit.

00:59:25 Speaker_00
So there were some other examples, now that I think about it, that came in through Twitter.

00:59:34 Speaker_00
So this was a response when I put out a call for questions, and the astrologer Ray Merriman, who's a financial astrologer, on Twitter said, when Uranus crossed my Ascendant, I discovered astrology.

00:59:48 Speaker_00
When Pluto crossed my Ascendant two years later, I got drafted and disrupted my life for two years, but it made me a better trained counselor for astrology for my astrology career, which also grew during that time.

01:00:05 Speaker_00
So I thought that was a really brilliant example of sometimes what happens when planets are crossing the degree of the Ascendant, especially if it's a slow-moving outer planet.

01:00:22 Speaker_00
Sometimes if it's a really slow-moving planet, like a once-in-a-lifetime changing event that occurs at that time, And Ray's chart's actually on astro.com. It's public, so I think I can show it.

01:00:35 Speaker_00
So here's his chart with late Virgo rising, 27 degrees of Virgo rising. And so, of course, he was talking about the Pluto-Uranus conjunction and the late 1960s that was happening in late Virgo was going over his Ascendant.

01:00:53 Speaker_00
So first starting with Uranus and then with Pluto. And with Uranus, I think I actually had the same thing. I had Uranus hit my Ascendant when I discovered astrology as well.

01:01:05 Speaker_00
And I think part of the reason that that happens for some astrologers, it can be kind of like a disruptive and unexpected thing to discover that

01:01:14 Speaker_00
all of this works, but it can also be kind of like a revolutionary and life-changing and really exciting thing to suddenly be thrust into the middle of this world of astrology and everything that it can do and to be kind of swept up in that.

01:01:33 Speaker_00
By contrast, having Pluto transit over his Ascendant must have been, I assume, really scary to get drafted just because then there's the potential to get sent off to a war.

01:01:48 Speaker_00
In his instance, it was the war in Vietnam and have the potential to literally die in a war that you don't want to be fighting in and may or may not agree with at the time. can be really, really scary.

01:02:02 Speaker_00
So having Pluto transiting over your Ascendant sometimes and having the fear of death or something like that come to the forefront in one's life, but also the transformative aspect of going through that over that few-year period.

01:02:18 Speaker_00
So that's a really good example of In the live chat, Ibru Altan says, that's so true. Uranus transiting opposite my Ascendant. I started studying astrology. That's really cool.

01:02:35 Speaker_00
Does anybody else in the live chat have any examples of that, of outer planet transit going over the degree of your Ascendant and having some major life-changing event? Yael says, Uranus conjunct my Ascendant, I dyed my hair blue.

01:02:52 Speaker_00
That's a great example. Having Uranus transit over the Ascendant and having a radical change of one's appearance is a pretty common one. And that actually brought up one other I was going to share.

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It was a good one that somebody submitted where they saw certain aspects of their chart and what was indicating it, but I actually noticed a transit for them that they hadn't noticed. So this one came in through Twitter.

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The username is Conrad Kloss at FossFaros. So they said, during my third house year ruled by the Moon, there was a lunar eclipse in my seventh house, and I was deep in a gender muddle.

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Two weeks later, when the Moon transited my first house and my ascendant ruler also got there, I realized and accepted that I'm trans, which I didn't plan for. I didn't plan this, obviously.

01:03:47 Speaker_00
So this was a really good example because there were a few different things that were relevant there. I'm going to pull up the chart here on Twitter. So here's the chart that Conrad sent in, and it has the Ascendant at 15 degrees of Taurus.

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And the thing that I noticed immediately from the transits is you can see the transits in green and the outer wheel, and Uranus was right there at 15, 16 degrees of Taurus.

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So transiting Uranus was actually transiting over the degree of their Ascendant right at the time that they had this realization that they were trans.

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So they said that the second chart is the day that they realized that they were trans when Venus actually entered Taurus that day. So it entered into the rising sign, and they're pointing out the lunar eclipse in Scorpio was two weeks earlier.

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But one of the things that's interesting about that

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the fact that the nodes were transiting through Taurus and Scorpio, that means that for a year and a half or pretty much two-year period, eclipses would have been bouncing back and forth between not just the 7th house, but also the 1st house.

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So that can be a very common thing that happens is that a person can experience major transformations in terms of their sense of self, their sense of body, and even sometimes their physical appearance when you're having major transits going on through your

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1st house, 7th house axis. So it wasn't just that Uranus was conjoined in the Ascendant, but also that eclipses were taking place in the 1st house and the 7th house throughout that period.

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So there's a bunch of different things going on that's very relevant. I just thought that was such a great example that they shared. And it's also a good example that sometimes as astrologers, we can see certain things in our charts

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then sometimes it's helpful to talk about our chart or share it with other astrologers because sometimes other astrologers can see things that maybe we missed or maybe we didn't see when we were looking at it or when we were experiencing the transits ourselves.

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But I thought that was such a great example of just the types of transformative experiences that can sometimes happen.

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And sometimes you don't have a good sense of, like I said earlier, what the first house means when we say that it signifies self or that it signifies you in the chart.

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That sounds like such an abstract concept that we don't usually have a real conceptualization of what that means until we go through a really intense either outer planet transit or a set of eclipses through the first house.

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And then all of a sudden, we're thinking about that topic in terms of who we are, how we're showing up in the world, and different things like that in a very intimate way.

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And then all of a sudden you really understand what the first house is all about. But sometimes it takes that experience of having a real visceral transit through the first house to open your eyes to what that's like.

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In the live comments, Angela says, eclipses in my first slash seventh was when my best friend died of COVID. And it was a big identity shift of who I was without a best friend. was also known as part of the best friend pair.

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Yeah, that's really can be a major thing because it's usually when eclipses are happening in our first house, it means they're also happening in our seventh house and sometimes it's redefining our sense of self and who we are, but sometimes it's through contrasting that or defining it relative to other people that we have really close and intimate relationships with in our life.

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I've done a few episodes on eclipses before, and eclipses can be really good ones that can show activations of the self and different things like that, especially in contrast with the other. Is there anybody else that has a good example like that?

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One. I think I got my ears pierced when Mars was transiting over my Ascendant and Venus was transiting my first. That's a pretty good one.

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Joe says North Node is going through the first, kids are all grown up, and now I'm trying to figure out what to do next that I'd find fulfilling.

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That's definitely a good one in terms of redefining one's sense of self at the end of something, especially because eclipses represent major endings, but also major beginnings.

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So sometimes there's the end of one chapter in our life and the beginning of a new chapter And sometimes in the first house, that new chapter relates to our sense of self, but also who we are in relation to others with the seventh.

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Sherry in the chat says, I was taking a yoga class when I was 25, and the instructor gave everyone an astrological chart she had prepared. That was 1971 when transiting Uranus was conjoining my Ascendant.

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That was when I first got hooked on learning astrology. That's really cool. So yeah, there's a lot of astrologers that have had that Uranus transit to the Ascendant or to the first house.

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Hebrew, Elton says, I got married in a first house eclipses in 1997. That's really good because that's a real renewal in terms of identifying yourself in relation to others. Lisa also says, I got married while the North Node was transiting my first.

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And anytime the North Node or the South Node is transiting a house, that also means eclipses are taking place in those houses at that time. Lindsay says Uranus was opposite my Ascendant and Mars, the ruler of the fourth, when my house burned down.

01:10:01 Speaker_00
I lost my childhood photos and home videos, which later inspired me to do photography as a career. That's a really striking one. All right, let me look at my other examples that I wrote down that came in.

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So I put a bunch of these in a document, so I'll just share some of those now. So Iyana on Twitter says, I left for college while Jupiter was transiting my first house, but I didn't gain the freshman 15, I gained the freshman 30.

01:10:36 Speaker_00
So that's a really good one because that's a common sort of thing that astrologers say can happen in terms of a Jupiter transit through the first house is Jupiter is about growth and expansion.

01:10:49 Speaker_00
So sometimes a Jupiter transit through the first house can be about gaining weight, whereas a Saturn transit sometimes can be about losing weight. Although

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That's sometimes tricky because sometimes Saturn transits can also be periods of low health and vitality where you're moving more slowly and having more difficulty, which itself can sometimes lead to weight gain.

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Yana also said, my mom has Jupiter in her first, and although she's been in some seriously life-threatening situations, she comes out unscathed every time. She's had three cars have engine problems. The first car she sued and won a brand new car.

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It got paid off. The other two, a man found a loophole, free rental and repair. Let me also add that Jupiter is also the ruler of her third house of short-distance travel and it falls in her first. So that's pretty interesting.

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Mandy says, in the live chat, I started mental health meds when the eclipses were on my first house, seventh house axis. I wanted to be better for be a better me and for the people most important to me. Yeah, that's a really good one.

01:12:02 Speaker_00
That makes a lot of sense and to do something partially, not just for yourself, but also for other people that are close to you in your life.

01:12:10 Speaker_00
That could be a good one if you feel like talking about it, if it's not too sensitive, if you feel like joining me. Hey.

01:12:18 Speaker_05
Hi.

01:12:20 Speaker_00
Hey, so what's your birth date?

01:12:23 Speaker_05
November 12th, 1985.

01:12:26 Speaker_00
All right. And is your Ascendant 26 Cancer?

01:12:29 Speaker_05
It is.

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All right. So 26 Cancer, and for those listening to the audio version, so you have 26 Cancer rising and Capricorn's your seventh house.

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And then the ruler of the Ascendant is the Moon and it's at 28 Scorpio and it's applying to conjunction with Saturn at 29 Scorpio.

01:12:53 Speaker_00
So you said that when eclipses started happening in your first and seventh houses that you decided to start working on mental health just in order to take better care of yourself as well as other people that are close to you?

01:13:07 Speaker_05
Yes. This is funny because this is like the second time I've gotten to talk to you in this way on one of these live things.

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And the last time you mentioned that because I was born during a solar eclipse, that the eclipses might be more significant as far as events in my life go.

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So I started kind of researching what was going on in my life during the time of different eclipses. And it was in 2018, in the summer of 2018,

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My son was almost a year old and my anxiety had gotten to the point where I just couldn't manage it anymore. So I sought medical help for that.

01:13:50 Speaker_00
And the anxiety arose, was it like a postpartum depression thing or what did the anxiety arise from?

01:13:59 Speaker_05
A lot of childhood trauma, but I think what really like the stressor that really exacerbated it was my living situation had completely changed. We moved into a new house, there were elderly members of our family that we had to

01:14:21 Speaker_05
take care of and need to assisted living and my own personal health like I had, I was no longer able to work outside the home kind of thing. So a lot of physical restrictions.

01:14:35 Speaker_05
And then my son being born, like everything just kind of happened all at once. And Yeah, I was like, something's gotta be done about this because I'm cancer rising.

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And what I told the psychiatrist was I just want to be able to go to the grocery store because the way the anxiety affected me, I just wanted to like crawl in a hole.

01:15:00 Speaker_05
Like I remember sometimes just when I was trying to get dressed, just sitting in the closet and like hiding from the whole world. So I was like in my little crab shell just to get away from everything.

01:15:14 Speaker_00
Yeah, so it's a whole process over a few-year period. That's a really common experience also with eclipses just because the nodes take a year and a half or so to move through each of those signs.

01:15:27 Speaker_00
And every six months during that period for at least a year and a half or two years, you just have the eclipses bouncing back and forth between those signs and activating some of that stuff.

01:15:39 Speaker_00
So Saturn also would have been going through your 7th house of relationships, and that's also where eclipses would have been happening. If we're talking about, what was the timeframe you said again?

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It was summer of 2018. My son was born in 2017, so he was almost a year old when I got to the point where I just couldn't, I got tired of living like that, I guess you could say.

01:16:03 Speaker_00
Right. Yeah.

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At first it was, at first my reason for doing it was my family deserves better than this. But as I've gone through the process, I discovered that I deserve better than this.

01:16:19 Speaker_05
So I thought like the whole first seven pounds thing was hitting pretty hard on that one.

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Right.

01:16:27 Speaker_00
And so, I mean, that's a common experience as well in terms of sometimes this feeling of like teeter-tottering back and forth between sometimes like emphasizing other people more or feeling like you need to versus emphasizing yourself more and putting yourself and your own needs forward more.

01:16:45 Speaker_00
So it sounds like you're experiencing some of that as well.

01:16:48 Speaker_05
Yeah, definitely. Definitely. It's crazy because that was pretty much the whole like The root of the anxiety, like the childhood trauma really had to do with my mother and feeling like I didn't deserve to exist and take up space in the world.

01:17:16 Speaker_05
And then like the ruler of my first house is in the fifth house in Scorpio, so,

01:17:24 Speaker_00
don't know there's a lot of mom issues going on that I had to heal and um it was yeah yeah but that eclipse is I think kind of what what triggered it maybe astrologically speaking yeah do you feel like you emerged from that set of eclipses and cancer and Capricorn with a greater sense of yourself and like who you are and what you need in life

01:17:51 Speaker_05
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And now everything, um, my Chiron is in, um, my Chiron is in Gemini. So now like everything is going over my Chiron, my 12th house, and it's kind of coming back into Cancer now, all the outer planets and stuff. And, um,

01:18:15 Speaker_05
About a month or so ago is when I was able to stop taking my anxiety medicine, which was like a huge deal for me.

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My shrink said that she, like in her professional opinion, you know, that I had worked through things that I needed to work through and she thought I would be okay without it. And

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It's just weird when you look at like your own transits and how the planets are moving and you can kind of see the cycles of everything and it's just so fascinating.

01:18:50 Speaker_00
Yeah, for sure. And just seeing sometimes good transits and being able to sometimes measure one's progress that you've made over the years. I feel like that can be really helpful having that perspective.

01:19:02 Speaker_05
Yeah. When you see it in retrospect, it's like, wow.

01:19:06 Speaker_00
Right. Totally. All right. Well, that's a really good example. Thanks for sharing that.

01:19:11 Speaker_00
I think that helped us clarify what that can be like in terms of eclipses and just sometimes gaining a better sense of yourself and who you are, but it being part of a process sometimes of revisiting that over and over again, rather than it just being like a one-time event.

01:19:28 Speaker_05
Definitely. Definitely.

01:19:31 Speaker_00
Cool. All right. Thank you.

01:19:33 Speaker_05
Yeah. Thank you.

01:19:35 Speaker_00
Okay, so Lindsey has one with Leo rising. That could be a good one. Are you still here? Lindsey R with Leo rising with the Sun, Mercury, and Venus. All right. Hey.

01:19:51 Speaker_03
Hi.

01:19:52 Speaker_00
All right. What's your birth data? August 10th, 1987.

01:19:55 Speaker_03
And your Ascendant is 23 Leo? Yes.

01:20:03 Speaker_00
All right, so for those listening to the audio version, we have a chart with 23 Leo rising, Mars is conjunct the Ascendant at 22 Leo, the Sun is in Leo at 17, then Venus at 13, and Mercury at 7 degrees of Leo. What else? Okay.

01:20:23 Speaker_00
And then, yeah, so what did you say happened again?

01:20:27 Speaker_03
Um, in, when I was in high school, my house burned down when Uranus was. Close to my descendant and opposite my Mars.

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Um, and then around that same time, like a few months later, I met my partner who I'm still together with today and it's been like 20 years. So it was like a good and a bad thing that happened.

01:20:46 Speaker_00
And you were also in a first house perfection.

01:20:49 Speaker_03
Um, no, not at that time. I am in one right now.

01:20:52 Speaker_00
Okay, I got it. That's really good example because this is like a interesting combination that comes up where Mars is the ruler of your fourth house of your home and living situation and it's in the first house.

01:21:06 Speaker_00
And then it was like the activation of that partially which where you had this negative experience of having your house burned down. What caused the fire?

01:21:15 Speaker_03
It was like, I think a lot of houses burned. It was called the Cedar fire. It was just like a mass, like a wildfire.

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How did it impact you?

01:21:28 Speaker_03
Really quickly.

01:21:29 Speaker_00
So as a wildfires, that was the other thing is it just happened like suddenly and sort of quickly that your house and I'm guessing most of your possessions like burned down.

01:21:40 Speaker_03
Yeah, we didn't take anything with us because The area that I lived, there would be fires every year around October. So my mom was used to that warning. So she was like, we're not taking anything, let's just go.

01:21:52 Speaker_03
So we evacuated, but we didn't take anything with us. So we lost everything.

01:21:59 Speaker_00
Did that cause any tensions with your mom because she was the one that said you shouldn't take anything?

01:22:06 Speaker_03
Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I was in high school, so I was always mad at her, but it was annoying.

01:22:13 Speaker_00
Sure. Yeah. Right. So you left and then everything burned down. How did that affect you?

01:22:29 Speaker_03
So I don't care about material possessions at all anymore. But I lost, like I said, I wrote in the chat, I lost all of my photos and my home videos. And I think about that all the time.

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And so I started just taking pictures myself and really caring a lot about photography and memories. And I now have just started getting into photography as a career.

01:22:51 Speaker_00
Oh, that's amazing. OK. Nice. That's really interesting. I mean, I'm looking at the Mercury square Pluto at the same time and wondering if that's relevant, just that you had that experience of having… Because I've been reflecting recently on

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the 4th house is having to do with the past, which isn't talked about a lot in traditional significations, but it's pretty common modern signification.

01:23:18 Speaker_00
And just sometimes when 4th house transits happen that there's something about the past that becomes the greater focus. But in your instance, it's like you

01:23:27 Speaker_00
In that case, you literally in one swoop had your past annihilated in some sense by having your photos and videos wiped out, but then that's caused you to think about that direction more and to actually start working on that as a potential career.

01:23:44 Speaker_03
I think the South Node was in Scorpio at the time too, so the eclipses were happening there.

01:23:49 Speaker_00
CB Oh, wow. Yeah. So eclipses were happening in your fourth house, but then that means eclipses also would have been happening in your 10th house at the same time.

01:23:58 Speaker_00
So it may have laid the seeds for a future career and been both an ending but also a potential beginning. That's super cool. And then so how long after that did you say you met your partner?

01:24:13 Speaker_03
Um, a few months after, well, I knew him, but we didn't get together until that was October. And then we got together in December. So it was like three months later.

01:24:22 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's really close. So, and that was kind of like unexpected. Cause you, were you like anticipating like getting in a relationship after that traumatic experience?

01:24:33 Speaker_03
We were kind of talking like we were friends, um, for a while. And so I think that was kind of happening at the same time. Um, but I wasn't really expecting like. to enter a really long relationship. That was not on my mind at all.

01:24:45 Speaker_00
CB Right. But it ended up much to your surprise because you probably also didn't think it would last for very long. So there was something surprising about just the fact that it turned into this enduring thing in the first place. That's funny.

01:25:03 Speaker_00
Well, it's interesting also because you kind of have a Uranus signature in your chart with Saturn Aquarius on the seventh house and Saturn is ruling the seventh house of relationships and it's in Sagittarius in the fifth house conjunct Uranus.

01:25:15 Speaker_00
So it's like both of those themes of both like Saturn and things that are enduring, but also Uranus and things that are unexpected or sort of come out of nowhere as like part of the signature for you of relationships.

01:25:29 Speaker_06
Yeah.

01:25:30 Speaker_00
Nice. That's a great example. One last thing. Mars is also ruling your ninth house. In other examples where I've had

01:25:43 Speaker_00
I've had a few examples of one was a client where they had Mars in the first house in the day chart and ruling the fourth house and the ninth house.

01:25:52 Speaker_00
They grew up in a religious household where their father was really religious, and it connected those themes of fourth and ninth house. was experienced as being very negative for the native with Mars in the first.

01:26:06 Speaker_00
But for you, because you have Jupiter there in the ninth, that's offsetting, I would think, some of the negativeness of Mars or potential downsides of Mars really in the ninth house.

01:26:17 Speaker_00
How has that worked out for you or has the ninth house component come into play at all?

01:26:20 Speaker_03
Yeah, it's been good and bad, but it's definitely much better than my fourth house, my ninth house. So I grew up in Utah, which is heavily Mormon, and we were not Mormon.

01:26:32 Speaker_03
So I didn't get invited to a lot of the stuff that people would do because of my religion. And then I went to a private Christian school, but I wasn't Christian either. So I didn't fit in there. And then my mom, she would go to an ashram in India.

01:26:48 Speaker_03
So I spent a lot of time. there, which was positive. And then I just, I travel a lot and I had a travel blog for a while. I like the Ninth House.

01:27:01 Speaker_00
That's incredible. Yeah.

01:27:05 Speaker_00
So that's interesting though that it's like on the one hand you experienced negative things and that because of where you lived in a highly religious area, but you weren't of that religion that you were sort of like ostracized in a way or in a more of an outsider that you would have been otherwise.

01:27:24 Speaker_00
Perfect. Your mom went to an ashram, but they had you go to a Christian school?

01:27:32 Speaker_03
Yeah. And I just went there because my friend was going there and I didn't want to be separated from her, so she let me.

01:27:38 Speaker_00
Okay. That's funny. And then your mom going to an ashram in India, does that mean she had more alternative spirituality?

01:27:47 Speaker_03
More Eastern beliefs. Like it was kind of like Sunday school, but every week they taught us about a different religion. So we just learned about all of them. She was just really like open minded and wanted us to learn everything.

01:28:02 Speaker_00
Wow, that's wild. That's really cool because in this instance, it's not the parents necessarily that are causing problems.

01:28:10 Speaker_00
And it's interesting that with Jupiter at 29 degrees of Aries in the 9th house, that it's trining that Mars and that Ascendant, which is interesting because it's both mitigating but it's also protecting them.

01:28:24 Speaker_00
and offsetting some of the things that could be negative.

01:28:27 Speaker_00
So maybe that's partially interesting just in terms of, for example, that you did escape from the fire and it didn't turn into a life-threatening event or something like that, or you have had some of those experiences of challenging things involving either where you lived or religion, but that's also been a great area of positive things for you at the same time.

01:28:49 Speaker_03
Definitely. Yeah. A lot of growth and just experiences and stuff.

01:28:55 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's amazing. Are there any other ways that your first house or first house stellium or transits through your first house have manifested in your life that are worth mentioning?

01:29:09 Speaker_03
My appearance has been the bane of my existence, so I feel like that's related. I have major body image issues, major self-esteem issues to the point where I think I might need therapy.

01:29:24 Speaker_00
Hmm. So that's something, is that something you've always struggled with or is it something that's okay.

01:29:30 Speaker_00
So like struggling with body image issues and just, um, is it something that you've gotten help for in the past or is something you just think you, you might need to, um, I have gotten like a little bit of help for it.

01:29:43 Speaker_03
Um, but yeah, it just, it feels like really like overwhelming a lot of the time.

01:29:50 Speaker_00
CB. Yeah. I mean, that can definitely be a thing with some of the First House placements is just struggling with that a little bit. Yeah, but it's nice that you have offsetting positive placements there at the same time.

01:30:08 Speaker_00
Even if you have that challenging placement there with Mars, having Venus there and having Jupiter overcoming that and potentially having a way to deal with that and make it not as bad or not seem as bad as you might feel like it is at different points in time.

01:30:25 Speaker_03
Yeah, I think so.

01:30:27 Speaker_00
Yeah. Cool. All right. That was a really actually amazing example. Thank you for sharing that.

01:30:33 Speaker_03
Yeah. Thank you.

01:30:35 Speaker_00
All right. That was great. All right. Let me check the comments. Everyone's pointing out that Lindsay's gorgeous. So that's know, good to hear sometimes.

01:30:50 Speaker_00
And sometimes I think that's something that people sometimes when you have challenging things related to the first house can struggle with is sometimes like, what if everyone else thinks that you're great, but what if you struggle with feeling like you're not or something like that?

01:31:06 Speaker_00
And how to rectify that. And sometimes that brings up a great point with the first house that sometimes our perceptions of things can be skewed and can be off.

01:31:19 Speaker_00
And that's actually one of the challenging things when you are working on the first house, especially as sometimes our own perceptions of our life, they're always informed by our own subjective experience. So sometimes

01:31:38 Speaker_00
there's somebody that's standing outside of our life looking in, they may have a much different perception of our life from an objective standpoint than we do in terms of our subjective experience, and sometimes that's really important to

01:31:54 Speaker_00
taken to account. And that's something actually that's really helpful with astrology is that it does give you a way of standing outside of things and looking at our lives objectively.

01:32:03 Speaker_00
But sometimes what we see is so different than how we're used to conceptualizing our lives that sometimes we can struggle to reconcile those two things. And I think it can be really actually helpful for that reason.

01:32:17 Speaker_00
Okay, I'm just, I'm trying to look and see if there's ones that might present a different aspect of the first house that we haven't covered so far, or ones that jog my memory of things that I meant to cover. Yeah, that's a good one.

01:32:34 Speaker_00
So Jeannie says, I have Saturn conjunct the Ascendant in the first house. In Sagittarius, as soon as Saturn went retrograde last year, I broke two teeth and I was in a second house Saturn ruled year.

01:32:45 Speaker_00
Planets at the Ascendant can show up in the physical body when something is happening to the houses ruled by the planet in the first. Yeah, that's a really great point.

01:32:54 Speaker_00
And yeah, things related to the bones or to teeth are really common Saturn things when they're connected to the first house. I don't know if Kristen is still here with Aquarius Rising. First house perfection year was 2020.

01:33:09 Speaker_00
Health issues, I'm not sure if that was the one. There was one where somebody submitted that they got COVID and they got long COVID in that year with early Aquarius Rising, but I don't know if you're the same person. It is? Okay.

01:33:26 Speaker_00
I think that would be interesting to go through just as another type of Saturn I, if you want to join me on camera. Hey.

01:33:35 Speaker_04
Hi.

01:33:37 Speaker_00
Thanks for joining me.

01:33:39 Speaker_04
Thank you for having me.

01:33:41 Speaker_00
All right. What's your birth data?

01:33:44 Speaker_04
It is January 12th, 1984. All right. Two Aquarius rising.

01:33:55 Speaker_00
All right.

01:33:56 Speaker_00
So for those listening to the audio version, you have two Aquarius rising and the ruler of the Ascendant is Saturn, which is at 14 degrees of Scorpio in the 10th whole sign house, and it's conjunct Ludo at one Scorpio and Mars at zero Scorpio.

01:34:14 Speaker_00
So what was your example again?

01:34:22 Speaker_04
Those are a lot of things that happened basically during that whole year, really. Cause it was, and it was the first house perfection year, um, basically through the whole of 2020. And I had, I mean, I had a number of health issues.

01:34:37 Speaker_04
Uh, the beginning of the year, it started with, um, Uh, my stomach just kind of shutting down completely. I ended up with gastroparesis and. Ended up losing 30 pounds because I couldn't eat anything.

01:34:53 Speaker_04
Uh, I was had to go to the emergency room because I couldn't drink anything either for days. Um, and it was like months of that. And then I, yeah, March I had got COVID and then that turned into long COVID.

01:35:10 Speaker_04
Um, and it was, it ended up, it like wasn't super bad and then it started to get better. And then all of a sudden it got way worse.

01:35:19 Speaker_04
the point where like I literally thought that I was going to die a few times because I had collapsed um multiple times like gasping for air and I couldn't breathe and um there was a point I was gonna call 9-1-1 and then I passed out so I didn't have insurance at the time so I just kept putting it off and putting it off and like I don't want that bill um and then yeah it turned into long COVID and then I've just uh just kept having multiple issues it took

01:35:48 Speaker_04
a good year before I started to kind of get back to normal. Um, and there were just loads of issues.

01:35:57 Speaker_00
Um, and then like, what were your symptoms for long COVID for those that aren't familiar with that?

01:36:07 Speaker_04
Um, a lot of fatigue. I mean, it, uh, part of it was fatigue, uh, like extreme fatigue. Like I just couldn't get up. I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't do anything. I had no energy. Um, you know, like I would try to take my.

01:36:21 Speaker_04
Uh, like trash can out to the street and then it would take me like days or weeks to get it back in, you know, because I just, I couldn't, like, I couldn't get up out of bed. I spent two months just pretty much in the bed.

01:36:36 Speaker_04
I was thankfully working from home. Um, but it's just, you know, I couldn't get up. I couldn't get out of bed. I couldn't do anything. And then I couldn't, I couldn't breathe my. Oh, sorry, my dog is in the trash.

01:36:53 Speaker_04
Um, and I couldn't, you know, I couldn't breathe at all. Um, I was just kind of, um, like constantly still for like months gasping for air. Um, trying to remember I had a lot of nosebleeds. I had a lot of issues with my heart.

01:37:14 Speaker_04
I had trying to even remember, um, I'm distracted by my dogs, I'm sorry.

01:37:21 Speaker_00
Yeah, so it turned into a long chronic issue with Saturn going through your first house. I have Aquarius rising and I also got sick in March of 2020, so I had a lot of really similar things with long COVID.

01:37:35 Speaker_00
But one of the things you're describing I think that's hard to convey to people that was so interesting symbolically just to stand outside of it as an astrologer is how

01:37:45 Speaker_00
the feelings of slowness and tiredness and not having the physical energy to do anything and being almost immobilized as a result of that is very evocative of Saturn going through the first house of body and then all of a sudden being

01:38:02 Speaker_00
restricted in what you're able to do for extended, for very long periods of time, and having to readjust your sense of self and who you are and what you can accomplish based on these new sets of limitations.

01:38:18 Speaker_04
Yeah. And it was a big difference from, cause I had like just regained, cause I have a ton of health issues in general and I had kind of gotten myself to a place where I was doing so much better.

01:38:30 Speaker_04
And then COVID kind of knocked me down and took all that away. And I was like, no. So it was, you know, that was, that was definitely a thing.

01:38:38 Speaker_04
And there were so many issues with that and, um, just, you know, it just lasted and lasted and it was ever evolving.

01:38:47 Speaker_04
Um, you know, and then kind of also another thing that had happened during that year is, uh, my husband and I had separated right at the beginning of that year. And I was living by myself for like the first time ever. I've always lived with somebody.

01:39:04 Speaker_04
And, and so it was weird. It was, you know, I was, it was just me. And, um, there was this kind of chance of figure out like, who am I and what do I like and what do I want to do? And.

01:39:17 Speaker_04
Just, you know, a lot of self discovery and that was something that I never really truly got to do before because there's always been everybody else around me and and focusing on everybody else and and doing for others and so it's like first time of being able to just kind of focus on myself.

01:39:36 Speaker_00
amazing.

01:39:36 Speaker_00
There's a real sense of, on the one hand, being on your own for the first time, so a sense probably on some days of loneliness or isolation compared to what came before, but then also through that loneliness and isolation, also a period of finding yourself at the same time.

01:39:54 Speaker_04
Yeah. Definitely a lot of periods of ups and downs. I know there was

01:40:04 Speaker_04
And my, my son is at 21 Capricorn so like there was a whole mess of like Jupiter and Pluto were pretty much exact, really close to my son, Saturn had just entered Aquarius, really close to my ascendant, and then Mars was kind of like right between my son and ascendant, and just going through that whole area and then that was spring, like Mars Pluto my moon.

01:40:29 Speaker_04
all that. It's fun times, fun times.

01:40:32 Speaker_00
CB Yeah.

01:40:33 Speaker_00
So you really got hit by especially the early part of Saturn and Aquarius when it was right on your Ascendant because then it immediately squared your Mars-Pluto conjunction and it immediately squared your Moon at the beginning of Taurus at five Taurus.

01:40:49 Speaker_00
And then even once you got past that, then you went into your Saturn square where it was squaring Saturn, the ruler of the Ascendant at 14 Scorpio. And that's a good example also that sometimes

01:41:03 Speaker_00
If people have the degree of the Ascendant early in the sign, sometimes the most intense part comes right at the beginning of the transit of a planet through the first house.

01:41:13 Speaker_00
Whereas there's other examples where if the Ascendant was at the very end of the sign, sometimes even though the events and circumstances surrounding the first house transit begin as soon as the ingress into the sign, the rising sign takes place, but the most intense part for those people doesn't come until later, like the end.

01:41:31 Speaker_00
But it's interesting for you that it was just right at the beginning.

01:41:35 Speaker_04
Yeah, it hit really hard and it stayed, but eventually it got better.

01:41:46 Speaker_00
Do you feel like after Saturn departed from Aquarius, it's been going through Pisces over the past year, did

01:41:57 Speaker_00
was there, even though it's still ongoing, where is there a lessening or an ability to manage some of the chronic health issues more or where are you at with all that?

01:42:06 Speaker_04
Yeah, I mean, they've, they've improved. They've definitely improved. Like a lot of the COVID stuff is, I mean, there's still some things like I've never really fully gotten better, but it's, it is better than it was.

01:42:23 Speaker_04
You know, some of the health stuff is better. my issues with my stomach are still there, but way better managed. And then I also have POTS, which COVID had worsened.

01:42:34 Speaker_04
And that got to be like, my heart was just, you know, every time I try to get up, I pretty much almost pass out. That's better controlled now. You know, a lot of that stuff is much better managed. It's still kind of there, but like better managed.

01:42:51 Speaker_04
And then, you know, as far as the relationship stuff that had also kind of Followed that same sort of thing of, you know, evolving throughout that and then, then it went into my second house and that's been a whole thing. So, yeah.

01:43:07 Speaker_00
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I appreciate seeing your chart because you're born like a year before me, but you have such a similar chart and it's interesting to have two people with similar charts have very similar experiences during that period.

01:43:22 Speaker_00
So even though it's not positive in terms of examples, obviously for either of us, it's at least nice to see. It's good to see other people who had similar experiences with similar transits so that you can kind of like resonate with that.

01:43:38 Speaker_04
Yeah, it definitely, definitely is there's something nice about that. For sure, like Aaron I was mentioning the, the Mars Pluto is like I, I can appreciate this.

01:43:51 Speaker_00
Yeah. And I think that's really important. And that's one of the reasons I like doing this series is just so different people can see people with similar placements as them and how sometimes you have that resonance of experiencing similar things.

01:44:04 Speaker_00
And sometimes that just being almost like therapeutic in a way to some extent.

01:44:09 Speaker_04
Yeah. Therapeutic. That is, that is the perfect word. Yeah. So there's some, something nice about that, about being able to kind of share that. No, it's like you're not alone. Right. And it's like, somebody gets you.

01:44:21 Speaker_04
somebody can kind of resonate with what you're going through. And nobody's really ever alone, even though sometimes it feels like that. Nobody's, you know, we've all got somebody, we all have people.

01:44:37 Speaker_00
Yeah.

01:44:38 Speaker_00
So the last thing is just as Saturn went through your first house, one of the things I experienced, and I don't know, maybe you had this experience, but having to focus on your health so much and to try to make improvements any way you could, and also learning different things about your body and learning about how you react to different things, maybe more than you had up to that point, so that it's not

01:45:04 Speaker_00
you're not loving that you're having to do that, but that there is this process of at least learning different things to try to manage or make things better.

01:45:11 Speaker_00
Do you feel like you went through that over that three-year period of Saturn through your first house?

01:45:17 Speaker_04
Yes, definitely. And partly with my heart and my lungs not doing as well and trying to figure out what are my limits and How can I take better care of myself? And, you know, what do I need?

01:45:32 Speaker_04
And same with my stomach and what foods are safe and what's not. And a lot of experimenting and testing things out and trying to learn about, you know, what's good or not or what works or doesn't.

01:45:47 Speaker_04
And a lot of just testing, like I said, testing everything and seeing how does my body feel? How do I feel? How do I, um, react to that.

01:45:59 Speaker_04
Oh and then yeah you know another thing I just thought about is during that period too was really also another thing as far as self and appearance goes because I think that was the first time that I've noticed that like I really was starting to show my age which was not fun you know because everybody's always been like oh you look like you're 20

01:46:24 Speaker_04
And, um, and then surprised that I have kids and especially kids that are as old as they are.

01:46:30 Speaker_04
And so I think that it was during that period where like, and I think it was because my stomach issues and that like, I was not getting anything that I needed.

01:46:40 Speaker_04
And, and I think it, all the stress of everything kind of aged me a little bit and, you know, malnutrition and whatnot. And it was, so that was a little bit of, um, you know, not a fun kind of moment.

01:46:56 Speaker_04
Um, and I had during COVID, like I lost my, my hair thinned out a lot from that, and that was really hard too.

01:47:04 Speaker_04
So those were two other things related to the stuff, but yeah, there was a lot of just kind of testing things and figuring out, you know, my body and, and what worked or what didn't and, and how to live with the new me. Yeah. Yeah.

01:47:25 Speaker_00
Age is definitely a big one. I'm glad you mentioned that because during Saturn transits, the concept of our age can come up in the concept of time and getting older or hitting certain landmarks.

01:47:37 Speaker_00
And especially when it's going through your first house, sometimes there can be experiences where it feels like it's aged you

01:47:43 Speaker_00
many years very rapidly during the course of that transit or other times beginning to show the effects of age or other things like that. I always mention on the podcast as one of my

01:47:59 Speaker_00
funny Saturn return transits with Saturn ruling my Ascendant that when Saturn conjoined itself that I lost my hair.

01:48:07 Speaker_00
And that was part of my first house transformation was going from a period in my life where I had hair to going from a period where I didn't. And that being a real change for me in terms of my appearance and other things, but also

01:48:20 Speaker_00
it was part of age as well and hitting different ages when your body's doing different things. That's a great one. I'm glad you mentioned that.

01:48:30 Speaker_04
Yeah, definitely. It's definitely a big one.

01:48:36 Speaker_00
Yeah. Um, cool. All right. Well, thank you so much for sharing that. And thanks.

01:48:40 Speaker_00
I hope you're able to, I hope for, you know, all of our stakes that it is something that gets better or they're able to find some way to like fix in the longterm or, or at least improve in some ways, but I guess we'll see, we'll see what happens.

01:48:54 Speaker_04
Thank you. You too. Appreciate you.

01:48:58 Speaker_00
Yeah. All right. All right, so I'm back from break. So we've covered so far mostly planets in the 1st house. We've covered transits through the 1st house.

01:49:12 Speaker_00
The last section that we haven't covered much at all yet is the ruler of the Ascendant being placed in different houses of the chart.

01:49:22 Speaker_00
And this is actually really crucial because the ruler of the Ascendant, the 1st house in ancient astrology, was referred to as the Helm. and like the steering wheel of a ship.

01:49:35 Speaker_00
And the ruler of the Ascendant then was sometimes said to be the steersman of the ship and would direct the life towards a certain direction or towards certain topics.

01:49:48 Speaker_00
So one of the things that you want to do when you're looking at the first house is you also want to look and see what planet is the planet that rules the sign of the Ascendant and then what house it's placed in in the chart.

01:50:01 Speaker_00
the ruler of the Ascendant, whatever house that is that the ruler of the Ascendant is placed in, usually the topic associated with that house or some of the topics associated with it will become particularly important or prominent in the life of the Native in some way.

01:50:16 Speaker_00
And sometimes the Native's life is actually steered towards those topics in some very striking or distinctive way. So one person actually submitted an example of this, an astrologer named Margaret Cahill,

01:50:36 Speaker_00
So Margaret has Libra rising, and the ruler of the Ascendant is Venus, which is placed in Gemini in the 9th whole sign house. And Margaret actually became a publisher of astrology books.

01:50:52 Speaker_00
She's actually the founder of Wessex Publishing or Wessex Books, which is basically one of the main publishing houses for astrology books today that's published a lot of really important and prominent astrological titles.

01:51:11 Speaker_00
Just last month, the book on Morinus or on Marine de Villefranche that I did an interview on was published by Wessex.

01:51:22 Speaker_00
So this is a great example of somebody whose career and life direction has been very much focused on Ninth House topics since the Ninth House is the primary house that has to do with publishing and astrology.

01:51:36 Speaker_00
And if you ever publish a book or if you ever write a book or do anything related to that, you'll often see the ninth house get activated when you publish a book or something related to it or write a book.

01:51:48 Speaker_00
So I thought this was a great example because it's one of the just examples of what happens when the ruler of the Ascendant

01:51:55 Speaker_00
is in a specific house in the chart, you really have to pay extra attention to that placement because it will dictate some major themes or major topics that the life will be directed towards in some significant way.

01:52:10 Speaker_00
So the ruler of the Ascendant is also important because sometimes the ruler of the Ascendant represents you in the chart, and it represents what you're doing in your life and how you're showing up in your life.

01:52:23 Speaker_00
And sometimes that can be positive, and other times that can be more challenging. So in some of the recent webinars like this that we've done.

01:52:34 Speaker_00
We've seen some different placements of the ruler of the Ascendant, and I did a whole webinar on it for students in my Hellenistic astrology course last month, where we went through each of the houses and different people shared their story of the ruler of the Ascendant in a certain house.

01:52:49 Speaker_00
And in some instances, we could see

01:52:52 Speaker_00
the ruler of the Ascendant in one house was, when well-placed or when it was benefics, that the native was doing good things in that area, or good things were arising in that area of the life as a result of the native, sometimes naturally or indirectly, but other times

01:53:16 Speaker_00
directly as a result of something the native is actually bringing about. That can also happen, though, sometimes with challenging things.

01:53:23 Speaker_00
Sometimes if the ruler of the Ascendant is placed in a challenging way in the chart, it means that there can be challenges that arise as a result of actions that we take that bring about issues in our life, or where there can just be difficulties that arise sometimes

01:53:42 Speaker_00
that come from within us in the life, and sometimes that's really described by the ruler of the Ascendant and its placement. So given that example, does anybody have a good ruler?

01:53:56 Speaker_00
This is a topic that really requires a whole episode on its own, but maybe we can run through in the last little bit of this, if anybody has a good example, that just matches very quickly and very obviously the house topic.

01:54:16 Speaker_00
Let me just read through some of these right now. So Iberu says, Ruler of the Ascendant and the Seventh, my life story is relationships. That's really good.

01:54:28 Speaker_00
Jennifer says, Aquarius Rising, Ruler in the Fifth, life revolves around finding my true purpose and joy and being a good mother. So yeah, having

01:54:38 Speaker_00
raising your children as a major focus and topic of the life of the ruler of the Ascendants in the 5th can definitely be one.

01:54:47 Speaker_00
I always use the example in my Hellenistic course, I think I used it in my book as well, of a famous children's book author, Judy Blume, who has the ruler of the Ascendant in the fifth house.

01:54:58 Speaker_00
And she started writing books for her children, but then eventually ended up writing children's books and becoming an award-winning author of children's books, became part of her destiny.

01:55:11 Speaker_00
Elizabeth says the Mercury, the ruler of the Ascendant in the whole sign 11th and the importance of groups in my life. Yeah, groups, alliances, friends can be a major topic with the ruler of the Ascendant in the 11th.

01:55:25 Speaker_00
Haley says Pisces rising artist and ruler of the sixth house in Virgo and perfectionism with craftsmanship is a good and bad for me. That's a pretty good one.

01:55:35 Speaker_00
Joe says, I didn't really relate to being in Aries rising, I think, due to my Mars being in the 7th.

01:55:40 Speaker_00
That's actually a common thing that sometimes when the ruler of the Ascendant is in the 7th house, because then it'll take on the qualities of the sign that's opposite to the rising sign and is antithetical to it, sometimes they won't relate to the rising sign significations as much.

01:56:01 Speaker_00
I've noticed there can be different ways that that can manifest in the chart, but that's definitely a possibility. Donata says, Virgo rising, ruler in the 8th, Venus in the 8th, have been swindled out of a few inheritances but still okay money-wise.

01:56:24 Speaker_00
That would be kind of an interesting one. Do you feel like sharing that on video? Hey, thanks for joining me.

01:56:39 Speaker_07
Nice to meet you, Chris. I've followed you for a long time. Love ya.

01:56:44 Speaker_00
Thank you. What's your birth date?

01:56:47 Speaker_07
March 21, 1956. Is your ascendant 28 Virgo? Yes. Yes.

01:56:50 Speaker_00
28 in shame. Yes. Uh-huh. Got it. All right. Wait, but hold on a second. I thought.

01:57:09 Speaker_07
So is it my? Ruler of my did I get that wrong?

01:57:17 Speaker_00
Yeah, we're looking for the ruler of the Ascendant in a specific house, but it looks like the ruler of your Senate would be in the 7th house.

01:57:27 Speaker_07
What's the ruler of my Ascendant?

01:57:29 Speaker_00
Mercury, Mercury and Pisces, right?

01:57:32 Speaker_07
Oh yes, sorry, that's OK. Yes, yes, I'm sorry I messed that up.

01:57:37 Speaker_00
That's okay.

01:57:39 Speaker_00
Well, I guess quick question then is just with the ruler of the Ascendant in the seventh house, we would think that your life would have been directed towards relationships in some way or that relationships would have been more important in your life for some specific reason.

01:57:53 Speaker_00
Is that true? And if so, in what way?

01:57:59 Speaker_07
Yes, I actually had entered in the chat that I am currently finally legally ending a 52-year relationship with my spouse that started in high school at 16. And it only happened after my dear beloved in-laws passed away in 2022 and then 2023.

01:58:36 Speaker_07
In 2024, there was just an inner shift. So we've been separated, haven't done anything about it. And, you know, and I haven't wanted to, but I was seeing, I was just feeling like I was moving toward it, but I wasn't quite ready.

01:58:53 Speaker_07
I haven't been ready for like 12 years. So it's a long time. And then something shifted this year where I think it had to do with my relationship with my in-laws, you know, they're not being here.

01:59:06 Speaker_07
And something's shifted and I'm now ready to like assume, I think I said that going from servant and power behind the throne kind of deal and now I'm shifting into Aries and being seen.

01:59:23 Speaker_07
Because look at me, I've never been on, when you said video, my first thing is like, oh crap. And then, you know, then I was like, no, no, no, I want to be seen. It's just like a perfect example of this shift. It's crazy.

01:59:39 Speaker_00
Yeah, this is actually really striking because, of course, Saturn entered Pisces a year ago in early 2023. So Saturn would have gone into your 7th house of relationships and then started conjoining the ruler of your Ascendant, which is Mercury there.

01:59:55 Speaker_00
And so all of a sudden, yeah, you've started moving towards that and feeling like you're ready to do that and to end that relationship. And you said it had been for 56 years up to that point?

02:00:09 Speaker_07
Yeah, we're in our 56th year. Yeah. Of partnership, you know, boyfriend, girlfriend, and then live in whatever's. And then I didn't marry until I became pregnant in 92.

02:00:23 Speaker_07
So being married, it's been what, um, I mean, legally married, it's been, um, you know, 30 some years, 32 years. So it's been a very interesting, it's been a long thing.

02:00:36 Speaker_07
And, but for the, since I would say 2009, 2010 is when it was like, okay, this is not okay anymore. It's not nurturing me. You know, I'm not getting, I'm giving 120 million percent and I'm not getting enough back finally.

02:00:59 Speaker_07
I'm a long suffering good Virgo in that way.

02:01:03 Speaker_07
so um and and what do you call it um hiding my light you know I have the Leo and the Aries hiding that for and just working behind the scenes and everybody shining the light on everyone else and so about 2008-2009-2010 I was like uh kind of feeling the handwriting it was on the wall but I'm just not a

02:01:27 Speaker_07
I'm not a quick, see you later kind of person. I had my daughter. But then once she went off to college in 2010, I was like, okay, this is new. But again, what is it? It's 2020. That's 14 years later.

02:01:44 Speaker_00
Yeah. 2009 would have been Saturn going through Virgo. So it's like some of that stuff was coming up when Saturn was going through your first house.

02:01:55 Speaker_00
then, yeah, it's really–and even the first few years of your marriage in the mid-90s would have been Saturn going through Pisces the first time, and now you've gone through a full Saturn cycle and it's come back.

02:02:09 Speaker_00
It seems like it's tied in with that just because you have Saturn in Sagittarius in the fourth house. So it's like every time Saturn goes through one of the mutable signs, it's also your Saturn square or Saturn opposition or conjunction.

02:02:25 Speaker_00
So it's like these cycles of relationships are very much tied in with your Saturn transits at the same time.

02:02:32 Speaker_07
Oh, I can see that for sure. And it's also interesting possibly being one of the older people that you actually, when you mentioned long cycles, I say, oh, I've actually experienced that.

02:02:48 Speaker_07
Because I think that Aries, part of me, forgets my chronological age a lot.

02:02:54 Speaker_00
Right. Yeah, Aries. I think Rick Levine said that Aries are like the forever young sign in some ways.

02:03:02 Speaker_07
Yeah. And also the health thing. I've always been very healthy, which works out because I'm usually nursing and bringing back people from near death, you know, with my strength.

02:03:15 Speaker_07
So it kind of has worked out or sharing my energy, you know, to help people heal. I just did that naturally. And then finally, you know, getting feedback from people and animals too. And I'm really good at that.

02:03:33 Speaker_07
I never recognized that because I never paid attention until we finally start listening to feedback from people as you get older and you're like, I think like 50,000 people have told me that maybe I need to listen to it.

02:03:45 Speaker_00
Do you work in nursing?

02:03:47 Speaker_07
No, I don't. I, I've done teaching, uh, and I, and I work with teenagers and children. I, I love, I, I think I'm good at teaching. I'm good at, um, nurturing, you know, I'm good at, uh, um, teaching people to fish, you know, I'll give them a fish, but.

02:04:07 Speaker_07
just sort of giving them the tools, young people, because I just, I think by Mercury and Pisces, it gives me a lot of intuitive insight into people pretty quickly, so I can figure them out and be really very helpful.

02:04:25 Speaker_07
So I've made sure I've had real impact on again, the feedback on the various young people later in life. And I love that. And I'm actually getting back into that, you know, went into, you know, making a living.

02:04:38 Speaker_07
And now that I have more time, I'm actually getting back into making books a birthright, a project where, you know, it's babies and books. I love books and I love little kids. So, you know, it's like this thing that naturally energizes me.

02:04:58 Speaker_07
So I've been away from young people.

02:05:01 Speaker_07
Well, I work at a university, so I'm around a lot of young people, but I'm now actually in my own time also gonna get back to just helping guide young people in their lives and just plant a little seed and off they go.

02:05:21 Speaker_00
Nice. So the last thing with the ruler of the ascendant is just,

02:05:26 Speaker_00
I've noticed that sometimes people, the ruler of the Ascendant and the Seventh, they tend to find themselves and find their own identity during one period of their life through relationships, but sometimes they have a tendency to go too far so that their own identity becomes submerged within the relationship or submerged under the needs of the other.

02:05:47 Speaker_00
subsumed under the needs of the other. But then it sounds like part of what you're having to do is redefine that now, especially outside of the relationship, and find out who you are and what you want.

02:06:00 Speaker_07
Exactly. As I said, I said to myself, well, I must have come into this life with two fire signs because I must have needed the firepower. Now I understand what that is. you know, my natural Virgo thing of, I've definitely subsumed.

02:06:20 Speaker_07
And it was actually a survival strategy from childhood. You know, it worked for me. And I've just continued that. As I said, it's like a power behind the throne thing.

02:06:33 Speaker_07
So in partnership, I help them succeed in ways they probably couldn't on their own, but I'm not the, you know, I'm not in the spotlight.

02:06:44 Speaker_07
Uh, you know, um, so, so that's definitely, and, and, you know, when you meet somebody at 16 and you're not legally, um, um, you know, divorcing them until, uh, 68. Yeah. I would say, you know, I was definitely subsumed.

02:07:00 Speaker_07
Um, but as I said, I think my fire signs in this situation have saved me. Uh, you know, maybe I'm just, uh, one of those seats that's under, you know, germinating for, you know, whatever, 56 years.

02:07:17 Speaker_07
And, and now I'm, and now I'm going to bud and, you know, bloom. It's, and, and that's why I don't like chronological time because it makes me, you know, it's like, well, that's a heck of a long time compared to other people.

02:07:30 Speaker_07
But, you know, I'm just going with it because it feels better. You know, I like, I was out of balance and I'm trying to get to use all of my astrological benefits. and recognize all of my astrological possibly imbalances.

02:07:47 Speaker_07
It's like working with this is very empowering.

02:07:51 Speaker_00
Yeah, that's incredible. I mean, it's incredible to have that breakthrough and yeah, to enter into that new era of your life. That seems like a gift and like a really great moment of progress and like stepping into and finding yourself.

02:08:09 Speaker_07
Yes, and I definitely could have been a nurse because I always had this feeling I would be one of the surgical nurses that would anticipate handing the doctor the instrument, you know, like before they even knew they needed it.

02:08:21 Speaker_07
I always had this weird thing, you know, it's like I would hand the scalpel even before they needed it because I, again, this intuition, this, I can recognize patterns. It's just, it's just a thing.

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So, so I could have gone into nursing, but I kind of did have that feeling. I didn't go into special ed teaching. I realized, I didn't have the necessary boundaries. I would have gotten burnt out. I would have taken my health, I think, to the edge.

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Intuitively, I said, no, that's way too much. I'll just overgive to my family. Then spreading that out, what it could have been, the death of me, really. So I thought about going that way, but something said, no, that's like danger, danger.

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And I think now I can look back and say, yeah, I would have burnt out. I didn't have the boundaries, you know, because I, I mean, the Virgo, I mean, I'll help anybody, I still will, but now it's just more, much more balanced.

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I mean, part of not getting legally divorced is letting my husband stay on my health plan. I mean, I think everybody should have a health plan, but, you know, that's just kind of a charitable thing you do for people, you know,

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that you've had a long relationship with. It doesn't fit into conventional a lot, but I think a lot of the unconventional is going to become conventional because it's just more charitable and kind.

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Yeah, that's really good. I think those are really good keywords for your chart, especially with that Mercury and Pisces. Sexile Venus is just charitable and kind. Thanks for sharing this example.

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This is actually a surprisingly great example, so I'm glad you shared it.

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Okay. I'm a little weirded out, but I'm very proud of myself. I'm really happy to meet you in semi-person.

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Yeah. It's nice to meet you as well. It's nice to connect, you know, with somebody who's listening to the podcast and to hear their story and to get a snapshot of their, their life like this. So thanks for sharing it with me.

02:10:28 Speaker_07
You're welcome. And, um, and, and, uh, I just want to say, um, all the best to everyone listening.

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All right. Thank you. Thanks. That was awesome. Um, All right. So does anybody else have a good example like that?

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Because that was a stunning example of the ruler of the Ascendant in a specific house and how that topic has come up and been so important in the life, but also how sometimes

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depending on different transits at different points in the life, the focus can shift in different ways and sometimes move towards a specific topic or sometimes move away from it, but still having it be dictated by the chart placements and the transits.

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Let me glance and see if there's any more Ruler of the Ascendant in the House Placement transits, or Ruler of the Ascendant in the Houses placements that I missed.

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I'm not seeing any, and I know we're getting to the end of this, so it might be sort of final thoughts and wrap-up time here. All right, so that might require a whole other episode.

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And like I said, I have a module on this in my Hellenistic astrology course in The Ruler of the Ascendant where I go into this in much more detail. So if people want to learn more about The Ruler of the Ascendant, they can go there.

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But generally speaking,

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just when the ruler of the Ascendant is in a specific house in the chart, there's something distinctive and important about that house that's going to define something about the native's overall life direction, but also sometimes it's going to define things about their identity, who they are, how they see themselves, sometimes things about their physicality and their physical body because basically all of the first house significations get wrapped up

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the ruler of the Ascendant as well, and sometimes they get directed towards or focused on the specific area, including the sign placement, the house placement, and the aspects to the ruler of the Ascendant, which are all very important.

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All right, so I think that's it. This was great. Thank you, everybody, for sharing your examples and for joining me for this.

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This is a bit of an experiment, but I've been meaning to start this series on the houses for quite a while now, but I was having trouble figuring out how to start it with the first house because the first house can sometimes be such an abstract house in terms of what it actually means in practice when you're talking about

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significations like self or you or other things like that. But I think we were able to get to some very core things here by going through these different examples and hearing different people share their stories.

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So thanks to everybody who submitted a story both online and especially thanks to everybody that joined me on video here to share their life story and talk about their charts in person. I really appreciate it.

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So this is going to be the beginning of a series, and I'm hoping in the long term to eventually have coverage of all 12 houses.

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So hopefully in the long term, we'll do a whole series talking about each house and continuing to develop this investigative model that we're doing here by

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learning what the placements and what the houses mean by talking to people who have that house prominent in their chart in some way, and hearing their real-life stories of what that actually means and how that works out in practice.

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That's going to be long-term series that we're going to be doing for quite a while now.

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It's going to set up something that'll probably take me months, if not a year, but I think it'll be worth it if the rest of the episodes are anything like this one in terms of the types of discussions and the quality of the discussions we can have by talking to people directly in person.

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I think we're all going to learn a lot and get a lot out of it by approaching it in this sort of format and in this manner. So thanks, everyone, for watching. Thanks to all the patrons that joined me today.

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Thanks for your support and helping me to do this work because I think this is really valuable and really important, and I'm glad to be able to do it together with a group of people so that it's like a community project that we're doing here, like a research project together, and we're finding things and learning things as we go.

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So for those watching the public version of this in the future once I release it, if you'd like to join us for one of these live streams, you just have to become a patron of The Astrology Podcast through my page on Patreon.

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And if you join the live stream tier, then you'll get a notification the next time that I schedule one of these webinars, and you'll have the ability to share your chart if you have a good example and join us through this live stream format or through this webinar format.

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Other than that, if you want to learn more about astrology and my approach to reading birth charts, then check out my Hellenistic Astrology course, where I take people from basic concepts up through intermediate and advanced techniques for reading birth charts, and where I have extensive lectures going through each of the houses, going through the concepts like the ruler of the Ascendant or the rulers of the houses,

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as well as different lectures on assessing planetary conditions that you understand what a planet means in a chart and how it's functioning.

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So as we go through this series, we'll see all of that in much more detail as we go through each example and we sort of apply these principles in practice.

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But if you're just looking for a more worked out and sort of systemized set of lessons to learn how I'm interpreting these birth charts when I do this on the fly, definitely check out that Hellenistic course at theastrologyschool.com.

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Alright, I think that's it for this episode, so thanks everyone for watching or listening, and I'll see you again next time.

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If you're really looking to expand your studies of astrology, then I would recommend my Hellenistic Astrology course, which is an online course on ancient astrology, where I take people through basic concepts, up through intermediate and advanced techniques for reading birth charts.

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There's over 100 hours of video lectures, as well as guided readings of ancient texts, and by the time you finish the course, you will have a strong foundation in how to read birth charts as well as make predictions.

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